View Full Version : Found Alive TN - Joann Bain, 14 y.o. daughter deceased; 2 missing, Hardeman, 27 Apr 2012 -#3
AfterSunset
05-02-2012, 10:10 AM
I didn't see this anywhere yet...sorry if it is already posted somewhere (mods please merge or remove as necessary)
http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/dpp/news/tennessee/fbi-searching-for-missing-family-rpt-20120430
Whiteville, Tn - Hardeman County deputies are searching for a mother and her three daughters after they disappeared Friday. No one's seen or heard from them since.
Her husband says they've been married 11 years and hopes the TBI will find answers.
(Story at link above)
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NEW: Jo Ann Bain and her daughter Adrienne were found dead in Mississippi, the FBI says
They and 2 other daughters were reported missing April 27 in western Tennessee
Authorities say their suspected kidnapper is considered armed and dangerous
By the CNN Wire Staff
(CNN) — The FBI said Monday night that a Tennessee mother and her 14-year-old daughter are dead, through the man they believe abducted them — along with two other daughters — remains at large.
http://wtvr.com/2012/05/08/amber-alert-update-mother-daughter-dead-2-kidnapped-daughters-suspect-remain-at-large/
Important links:
MM and TM mug shots
http://wmctv.images.worldnow.com/ima...186309_BG4.jpg
http://www.wsmv.com/story/18186309/w...ed-and-charged
Affidavits
http://files.wmctv.com/theresamayesaffidavit.pdf
http://files.wmctv.com/maryfrancisaffidavit.pdf
Good news source
http://nems360.com/ or http://www.djournal.com/
http://www.wmctv.com/category/4728/news
FBI Page
http://www.fbi.gov/memphis/press-rel...apping-victims
TBI page
http://www.tbi.tn.gov/amber_alert_ph...er_alert.shtml
Teresa Mayes Aggravated Kidnapping Affidavit w/ Murder Reference
http://files.wmctv.com/WEDTBaffidavit.pdf
http://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.c...eresamayes.pdf
timeline and media thread:TN Joann Bain, 14 y.o. daughter deceased; 2 missing, Hardeman, *timeline and media* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
nursebeeme
05-09-2012, 12:25 PM
new thread
reminders:
1)what happens in the scanner stays in the scanner
2)do not bring over comments from facebook or social media
3)attack the post and not the poster; all opinions are welcome
palaminodee
05-09-2012, 12:28 PM
http://www.wmctv.com/?c=n
TM charged with murder!
belimom
05-09-2012, 12:29 PM
From the other thread:
http://www.wtva.com/default.aspx link to watch live
Per wtva FBI is gonna have a 2pm presser.
Link... http://www.wmctv.com/
There will be a news conference at 2 pm, central time.
I really hope this has to do with the murder charges for TM and not more bodies... :(
belimom
05-09-2012, 12:30 PM
FYI, I wonder if the motive for TM committing murder has to do with jealousy. If AM altered appearances of both Joann and Adrienne (which I read on the previous thread but had not seen in MSM), then it seems that he had other plans rather than killing them.
What a terrible, sordid, awful mess... :cry:
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 12:31 PM
It says it is the FBI holding the presser.
CharlestonGal
05-09-2012, 12:31 PM
I figured she would admit the murders eventually, after admitting the kidnapping and knowledge of the grave digging. She didn't strike me as the type who could withstand much interrogation. I think mom will be harder to break, but I do strongly suspect she's involved in the murders as well. Or at the least, the cover-up of the murders.
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 12:32 PM
TM must have fessed up more info for her to get charged with murder.
belimom
05-09-2012, 12:32 PM
It says it is the FBI holding the presser.
Huh. Seems like it would be local/state LE if it were about murder charges...? Now I'm more worried. I hope they have apprehended AM but I'm worried that it's going to be even more bad news.
Madeleine74
05-09-2012, 12:34 PM
I don't understand the motive in this case.
He took the mom and 3 daughters. Revenge against someone?
Mayes to be added to FBI 10 Most Wanted List
http://www.wtae.com/news/national/Mayes-to-be-added-to-Ten-Most-Wanted-list/-/9681152/12969722/-/3vwry6/-/index.html
2sharpe2
05-09-2012, 12:36 PM
HLN just said the FBI presser is at 3pm today..
raineday
05-09-2012, 12:36 PM
TM says that AM only intended to kidnap 2 youngest girls. She also stated that she saw him kill Adrienne and the mom. (This was on WMC TV news breaking alert.)
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 12:37 PM
The Mayes family and the Bain family are connected through Adam Mayes' sister Pamela, who used to be married to Jo Ann's husband Gary Bain, the lawyer said.
Adam and Teresa Mayes were married for 11 years and lived in Guntown, she said.
Avove comments confirm GB married AM's sister (Pamela).
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/justice/tennessee-missing-children/index.html
Nana46
05-09-2012, 12:37 PM
TM says that AM only intended to kidnap 2 youngest girls. She also stated that she saw him kill Adrienne an the mom. (This was on WMC TV news breaking alert.)
So I am wondering...if she witnessed him killing them (her story) does the murder one charge come from aiding or just knowing or what?
palaminodee
05-09-2012, 12:38 PM
more sick details
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
In the latest police affidavit, it reveals that Teresa watched her husband kill Jo Ann Bain in a garage next to the home in Whiteville. She also told investigators Mayes killed Adrienne in Whiteville. In the interview with investigators, she said that she helped Mayes by driving the vehicle with the bodies inside to Alpine, MS.
Mendara
05-09-2012, 12:38 PM
Murder in the 1st not manslaughter. Means they did not die by mistake in the trunk but were purposely killed. mo
Madeleine74
05-09-2012, 12:40 PM
I think that aiding/kidnapping with the outcome of the victim's death means that everyone involved can be charged with murder 1 even if they didn't personally kill the people who were kidnapped.
Hopeful One
05-09-2012, 12:40 PM
In the latest police affidavit, it reveals that Teresa watched her husband kill Jo Ann Bain in a garage in Whiteville. She also told investigators Mayes killed Adrienne in the same town. She admits to driving the vehicle with the bodies inside it to Alpine, MS, where they were found buried in a backyard.
During the interview, Teresa also stated that Adam Mayes' plan was to kidnap the two younger girls. The murders of Jo Ann and Adrienne were directly part of the kidnapping.
From the link in the last thread. WOW!!
Nana46
05-09-2012, 12:40 PM
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
At her home????????????/:banghead:My God with her hubby and step daughter in the home????:banghead:
nursebeeme
05-09-2012, 12:40 PM
The Mayes family and the Bain family are connected through Adam Mayes' sister Pamela, who used to be married to Jo Ann's husband Gary Bain, the lawyer said.
Adam and Teresa Mayes were married for 11 years and lived in Guntown, she said.
Avove comments confirm GB married AM's sister (Pamela).
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/justice/tennessee-missing-children/index.html
so this makes the oldest daughter (the one still at home GB's daughter from past marriage) AM's niece??
Ghostwheel
05-09-2012, 12:41 PM
Some of this is making more sense now. They focused on the immediate area because they knew he had gone into a local store several days after he killed JB and AB. They didn't release that video because they didn't want him to know they knew he was still local.
And then some of this is making no sense now. Why not just kidnap the two younger girls and be done? Was he trying to make people believe that JB would run off with him, causing them to look in another direction?
Maybe he hates GB. If he wanted to make GB suffer, he has truly done that.
sreshowtime
05-09-2012, 12:42 PM
thanks sleuthupdate....I had found the Pamela- PJM- in reference to GWB previously and figured that was an ex wife, but had not connected her to ACM- so that was the missing link to how they ll knew each other, interesting.
Hopeful One
05-09-2012, 12:42 PM
Some of this is making more sense now. They focused on the immediate area because they knew he had gone into a local store several days after he killed JB and AB. They didn't release that video because they didn't want him to know they knew he was still local.
And then some of this is making no sense now. Why not just kidnap the two younger girls and be done? Was he trying to make people believe that JB would run off with him, causing them to look in another direction?
Maybe he hates GB. If he wanted to make GB suffer, he has truly done that.
I don't understand the killing of the other two either. What was his reasoning behind that??
Spookytube
05-09-2012, 12:43 PM
Geez. I just saw the alert on my Ipad. I am in Memphis, tn. So so close to home. I am speechless. What a sicko. You know they need to get some more pics of the sicko out there bc the surveliance(?) photo and his creepy pic look different. Prayers for those two babies. I can tell you though, if he is in Memphis or the surrounding areas, he will be seen. Thank God this got the medias attention!!
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 12:45 PM
TM must have fessed up more info for her to get charged with murder.
In the latest police affidavit, it reveals that Teresa watched her husband kill Jo Ann Bain in a garage in Whiteville. She also told investigators Mayes killed Adrienne in the same town. She admits to driving the vehicle with the bodies inside it to Alpine, MS, where they were found buried in a backyard.
During the interview, Teresa also stated that Adam Mayes' plan was to kidnap the two younger girls. The murders of Jo Ann and Adrienne were directly part of the kidnapping.
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
passionflower
05-09-2012, 12:46 PM
The reward currently sits at $71,000.
Keep in mind, Mayes is considered armed and extremely dangerous. He may be using the aliases Christopher Zachery Wylde or Paco Rodrigass
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 12:47 PM
I'm guessing this is the detached garage they are referring to (I think it is the third picture): http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8590-Whiteville-Newcastle-Rd-Whiteville-TN-38075/41509965_zpid/
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 12:47 PM
TM says that AM only intended to kidnap 2 youngest girls. She also stated that she saw him kill Adrienne and the mom. (This was on WMC TV news breaking alert.)
So if the plan was only to kidnap the two youngest, I have three questions:
1. did he PLAN to kill JB and Adrienne?
2. or did he get caught by mom and/or Adrienne loading up the girls and that's how they got killed?
3. what was his main motivation for planning to take the 2 youngest? (most likely scenarios seem to be either believing they were his biokids or sexual crimes or both)
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 12:47 PM
Just thinking out loud, maybe he was going to take the younger two and JB and AB got in the way and were trying to keep him from taking the younger girls. And since it seems that TM was there outside waiting, this is all premeditated.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 12:48 PM
so this makes the oldest daughter (the one still at home GB's daughter from past marriage) AM's niece??
Yes, niece with a great-niece.
susan1122
05-09-2012, 12:48 PM
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
This is so unbearably sad. : ( I keep wondering: how In the world could she have done this? And MM? But keep coming back to what I have learned over the years.....I will never understand this kind of evil.
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 12:49 PM
I also think he believe those two younger girls are his and I think that is his motivation. Even if it is proven they are not his. in his twisted mind they are his.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 12:50 PM
I wonder where he killed poor Adrienne. Same town? What does that mean?
sreshowtime
05-09-2012, 12:50 PM
I guess the idjit thought if older mom and sis were out of the way he could 'keep' the younger 2 as his own, and let GB think JB flew the coop with the younguns...what a sicko....please let those little gals be alive!
Have they not said anything about if AM is in a vehicle? Where are the girls?! Surely he isn't dragging them all over the place!!
Still wanna know where his father JLM is in all this.
Ghostwheel
05-09-2012, 12:51 PM
I'm guessing this is the detached garage they are referring to (I think it is the third picture): http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8590-Whiteville-Newcastle-Rd-Whiteville-TN-38075/41509965_zpid/That is far enough away no one would have heard much. Makes you wonder if he laid in wait for them to come out to go to school. That is the only way I can see getting them all out of the house without noise.
nursebeeme
05-09-2012, 12:52 PM
I wonder where he killed poor Adrienne. Same town? What does that mean?
I bet she was trying to protect her little sisters... It is just so sick and horrifying I can hardly wrap my head around it
susan1122
05-09-2012, 12:52 PM
Just thinking out loud, maybe he was going to take the younger two and JB and AB got in the way and were trying to keep him from taking the younger girls. And since it seems that TM was there outside waiting, this is all premeditated.
From the affidavit, if it is correct, it was definitely premeditated.
willow1
05-09-2012, 12:52 PM
I also think he believe those two younger girls are his and I think that is his motivation. Even if it is proven they are not his. in his twisted mind they are his.
Or he's a pedophile and likes his girls <14 years old.
jjenny
05-09-2012, 12:53 PM
FYI, I wonder if the motive for TM committing murder has to do with jealousy. If AM altered appearances of both Joann and Adrienne (which I read on the previous thread but had not seen in MSM), then it seems that he had other plans rather than killing them.
What a terrible, sordid, awful mess... :cry:
Police affidavit doesn't allege she killed them personally. It says she was present when AM killed the mother, and also knew that he killed the older girl. Sounds like he is the one accused of actually committing these murders, and also sounds like it was intentional.
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 12:53 PM
That is far enough away no one would have heard much. Makes you wonder if he laid in wait for them to come out to go to school. That is the only way I can see getting them all out of the house without noise.
I don't think so, because the cell phones and backpacks were in the house. With this new info, I think he PLANNED to kill JoAnn (was mad at her). Took her to the garage and shot her that night. Went back and got all the girls in the car with a ruse. Killed Adrienne somewhere else (maybe where the SUV was left?) and took the 2 little ones. :-( So sick!
palaminodee
05-09-2012, 12:54 PM
Authorities have said Mayes was a family friend who was staying with the Bains on April 27, the day the mother and children disappeared. Before he fled, he admitted to authorities that he was the last person to see Jo Ann Bain and her daughters before the disappearance, according to an affidavit filed with the court.
I did not recall hearing AM admitting he was the last to see the Bains?
http://www.djournal.com/view/full_story/18514013/article-UPDATE--FBI-to-hold-press-conference-at-2-p-m--on-Mayes-case?instance=home_news_right
passionflower
05-09-2012, 12:54 PM
Since wife got charged with2 1st degree murders, IMO to prove it she has confessed to 'helping' him murder the 2 victims. Just watching IMO, would be accomplice????
She got charged so quick! JMOO
Patty G
05-09-2012, 12:55 PM
As off the wall as my comment will sound, I actually feel bad for Teresa as I feel she was put in this situation "perhaps" not by choice. Listening to her sister's interview, it appears Teresa may be challenged, and a victim of Adam's abuse.
Thankfully she came forth with what happened, so that LE has a better understanding of how everything went down. I sure hope she had an attorney sitting by her side when she gave LE all this information.
jjenny
05-09-2012, 12:56 PM
I don't understand the killing of the other two either. What was his reasoning behind that??
According to the affidavit, the two younger girls are the ones he actually was intending to kidnap.
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 12:56 PM
Since wife got charged with2 1st degree murders, IMO to prove it she has confessed to 'helping' him murder the 2 victims. Just watching IMO, would be accomplice????
She got charged so quick! JMOO
On the cop shows, if you drive the getaway car, and your friend goes in to rob a liquor store, and the clerk pulls a gun, and your friend shoots the clerk, both he and you (the getaway driver) get charged with murder.
If someone dies in the commission of a felony (armed robbery, kidnapping, etc.), anyone involved in committing that felony can be charged with murder.
Ghostwheel
05-09-2012, 12:58 PM
I don't think so, because the cell phones and backpacks were in the house. With this new info, I think he PLANNED to kill JoAnn (was mad at her). Took her to the garage and shot her that night. Went back and got all the girls in the car with a ruse. Killed Adrienne somewhere else (maybe where the SUV was left?) and took the 2 little ones. :-( So sick! Did not read about the cell phones and backpacks in an article. Must have missed it. Wait. If the backpacks were in the house, why didn't GB think something was wrong earlier? Your kids wouldn't go to school without their backpacks. You would not think ALL of them forgot.
jjenny
05-09-2012, 12:58 PM
On the cop shows, if you drive the getaway car, and your friend goes in to rob a liquor store, and the clerk pulls a gun, and your friend shoots the clerk, both he and you (the getaway driver) get charged with murder.
If someone dies in the commission of a felony (armed robbery, kidnapping, etc.), anyone involved in committing that felony can be charged with murder.
Yes, according to the affidavit, they are not alleging TM committed those murders personally. But kidnapping is a felony, and as she allegedly participated in that, presumably they are able to charge her with murders as well as kidnapping.
nursebeeme
05-09-2012, 12:58 PM
As off the wall as my comment will sound, I actually feel bad for Teresa as I feel she was put in this situation "perhaps" not by choice. Listening to her sister's interview, it appears Teresa may be challenged, and a victim of Adam's abuse.
Thankfully she came forth with what happened, so that LE has a better understanding of how everything went down. I sure hope she had an attorney sitting by her side when she gave LE all this information.
just my :twocents: but until I hear more details and info and these other two girls are recovered I have zero feelings about Teresa who has been charged with four counts of agg kidnapping and now first degree murder
:moo:
AfterSunset
05-09-2012, 12:59 PM
I wonder where he killed poor Adrienne. Same town? What does that mean?
From what I read in the article, he killed Adrienne in the same garage outside the house where he killed Joann.
tehcloser
05-09-2012, 12:59 PM
First Degree..........she did more than watch imo.
SeaEclipse
05-09-2012, 12:59 PM
Since wife got charged with2 1st degree murders, IMO to prove it she has confessed to 'helping' him murder the 2 victims. Just watching IMO, would be accomplice????
She got charged so quick! JMOO
Does TN have a felony murder statute? Because, if so, then "watching" him murder would be sufficient for her to be charged if the murder was committed as "part of" the kidnapping in which she participated. I'm guessing that this is the reason for the last sentence in the affidavit specifying that the murders were directly related to the kidnapping.
ETA: They may or may not think she did more than watch, but if the "doing more than watching" was required to make the murder charge stick, they would *have to* allege it in the affidavit supporting the charge... which they do not.
Mendara
05-09-2012, 01:00 PM
So if the plan was only to kidnap the two youngest, I have three questions:
1. did he PLAN to kill JB and Adrienne?
2. or did he get caught by mom and/or Adrienne loading up the girls and that's how they got killed?
3. what was his main motivation for planning to take the 2 youngest? (most likely scenarios seem to be either believing they were his biokids or sexual crimes or both)
Since he stayed local after they went missing and was even questioned. I am guessing his plan was to make it look like mom ran away with her kids and left her husband. Sounds like he killer mom and daughter and had his WIFE drive them out of town, while he stayed. Did she also take the girls with her? Did he meet up with them later? He buried them on his property thinking he would notbe a suspect obviously he is not very smart. After being questioned by LE (LE states he gave them false info leading them in a different direction) he then fled.
I hope he took the girls for love and not sex and I PRAY that he does not panic and kill them too.
mo
jjenny
05-09-2012, 01:02 PM
Since he stayed local after they went missing and was even questioned. I am guessing his plan was to make it look like mom ran away with her kids and left her husband. Sounds like he killer mom and daughter and had his WIFE drive them out of town, while he stayed. Did she also take the girls with her? Did he meet up with them later? He buried them on his property thinking he would notbe a suspect obviously he is not very smart. After being questioned by LE (LE states he gave them false info leading them in a different direction) he then fled.
I hope he took the girls for love and not sex and I PRAY that he does not panic and kill them too.
mo
I agree. If they all gone missing, police could have assumed the mother just run off with her kids. In fact it appears police might have assumed so in the very beginning. If he is only interested in younger two children, the other two could be the part of the plan to prevent police from figuring out they were kidnapped.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:02 PM
I wonder if it was Jo Ann's idea to move back to Arizona due to the kids' health issues, and that's what made him so mad at her.
Ghostwheel
05-09-2012, 01:02 PM
According to the affidavit, the two younger girls are the ones he actually was intending to kidnap.Yes, but why kill the other 2? Why not just kidnap the younger ones? There is no reason to kill JB and AB unless he was angry at JB (or GB and wanted to hurt him) or JB/AB interfered with his trying to take the two younger girls.
Can anyone think of any other reason?
AfterSunset
05-09-2012, 01:02 PM
Did not read about the cell phones and backpacks in an article. Must have missed it. Wait. If the backpacks were in the house, why didn't GB think something was wrong earlier? Your kids wouldn't go to school without their backpacks. You would not think ALL of them forgot.
In GB's defense, I have to say my hubby would not know if our little one took her backpack to school or not...he does not "do" the morning routine except once every two weeks and that is only to drive her to school....I'm the one that makes sure she has everything :/
tehcloser
05-09-2012, 01:03 PM
39-13-202 - First degree murder —
(a) First degree murder is:
(1) A premeditated and intentional killing of another;
(2) A killing of another committed in the perpetration of or attempt to perpetrate any first degree murder, act of terrorism, arson, rape, robbery, burglary, theft, kidnapping, aggravated child abuse, aggravated child neglect, rape of a child, aggravated rape of a child or aircraft piracy; or
(3) A killing of another committed as the result of the unlawful throwing, placing or discharging of a destructive device or bomb.
(b) No culpable mental state is required for conviction under subdivision (a)(2) or (a)(3), except the intent to commit the enumerated offenses or acts in those subdivisions.
(c) A person convicted of first degree murder shall be punished by:
(1) Death;
(2) Imprisonment for life without possibility of parole; or
(3) Imprisonment for life.
(d) As used in subdivision (a)(1), “premeditation” is an act done after the exercise of reflection and judgment. “Premeditation” means that the intent to kill must have been formed prior to the act itself. It is not necessary that the purpose to kill pre-exist in the mind of the accused for any definite period of time. The mental state of the accused at the time the accused allegedly decided to kill must be carefully considered in order to determine whether the accused was sufficiently free from excitement and passion as to be capable of premeditation.
http://www.wctpc.com/tca/first-degree-murder.html
nursebeeme
05-09-2012, 01:04 PM
Does TN have a felony murder statute? Because, if so, then "watching" him murder would be sufficient for her to be charged if the murder was committed as "part of" the kidnapping in which she participated. I'm guessing that this is the reason for the last sentence in the affidavit specifying that the murders were directly related to the kidnapping.
ETA: They may or may not think she did more than watch, but if the "doing more than watching" was required to make the murder charge stick, they would *have to* allege it in the affidavit supporting the charge... which they do not.
http://www.tennesseecriminallawyerblog.com/2008/11/homicide_first_degree_murder_f_1.html
yes they do (and good point)
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 01:04 PM
In the latest police affidavit, it reveals that Teresa watched her husband kill Jo Ann Bain in a garage in Whiteville. She also told investigators Mayes killed Adrienne in the same town. She admits to driving the vehicle with the bodies inside it to Alpine, MS, where they were found buried in a backyard.
During the interview, Teresa also stated that Adam Mayes' plan was to kidnap the two younger girls. The murders of Jo Ann and Adrienne were directly part of the kidnapping.
From the link in the last thread. WOW!!
I knew it !
I said he killed them back at the house i wonder if the younger girls watched this!
These ppl need to fry for this !
Premeditated kidnapping and murder!
I hope this news conf isnt something really bad
lets say a prayer peeps!
jjenny
05-09-2012, 01:04 PM
Yes, but why kill the other 2? Why not just kidnap the younger ones? There is no reason to kill JB and AB unless he was angry at JB (or GB and wanted to hurt him) or JB/AB interfered with his trying to take the two younger girls.
Can anyone think of any other reason?
If he just kidnapped the younger ones, then he would have become a suspect. Whereas all 4 go missing and police think mother left her husband and run away.
Which apparently did work for a little while, as police might have originally believed mother left voluntarily.
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 01:04 PM
From what I read in the article, he killed Adrienne in the same garage outside the house where he killed Joann.
Yes, the article says in the same town but the affidavit is more specific and says Adrienne was killed at the same location as JoAnn.
susan1122
05-09-2012, 01:04 PM
That is far enough away no one would have heard much. Makes you wonder if he laid in wait for them to come out to go to school. That is the only way I can see getting them all out of the house without noise.
Or maybe said he'd drive them to school? But that seems like it would have been a non-violent way to get them.....unless JB got suspicious. It seems the family had trusted him in the past....but maybe Jo Ann was getting uncomfortable with him? I wonder what she was venting about....when she wrote on her FB page that a good venting can make you feel better.
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 01:05 PM
SurfieTV...you asked in prev. thread if TM and MM were arrested Sunday, 4/29. They were arrested last Sunday, 5/6 (Jo Ann's and Adrienne's :rose: :rose: bodies were discovered on Saturday, 5/5). Links to that info already posted in several places on prev. thread.
palaminodee
05-09-2012, 01:05 PM
Did not read about the cell phones and backpacks in an article. Must have missed it. Wait. If the backpacks were in the house, why didn't GB think something was wrong earlier? Your kids wouldn't go to school without their backpacks. You would not think ALL of them forgot.
My point exactly; kids do not go to school without their backpacks...the asthma medication was also left behind...not believable that they voluntarily left home!
willow1
05-09-2012, 01:06 PM
I knew it !
I said he killed them back at the house i wonder if the younger girls watched this!
These ppl need to fry for this !
Premeditated kidnapping and murder!
I hope this news conf isnt something really bad
lets say a prayer peeps!
Strangulation wouldn't leave a blood trail.
tehcloser
05-09-2012, 01:06 PM
They must not have made much noise.......
jjenny
05-09-2012, 01:06 PM
Or maybe said he'd drive them to school? But that seems like it would have been a non-violent way to get them.....unless JB got suspicious. It seems the family had trusted him in the past....but maybe Jo Ann was getting uncomfortable with him? I wonder what she was venting about....when she wrote on her FB page that a good venting can make you feel better.
Since he was so interested in the children if he just kidnapped them, I assume he would immediately become a suspect. I think murder of the other two was a cover up, so police could think mother run away from her husband with the kids.
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 01:06 PM
I think TM's lawyer is going to point out her mental problems and abuse and try to get her less time on the charges. Although there are not too many cases that are considered for the insanity plea.
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 01:07 PM
I wonder where he killed poor Adrienne. Same town? What does that mean?
The affidavit says the same address (so same town...bad reporting, IMO). Jo Ann: garage, Adrienne: at that location.
http://files.wmctv.com/WEDTBaffidavit.pdf
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 01:10 PM
Since he was so interested in the children if he just kidnapped them, I assume he would immediately become a suspect. I think murder of the other two was a cover up, so police could think mother run away from her husband with the kids.
I agree... and apparently he and Teresa don't have enough brain cells between the two of them to take the medication, backpacks, and some clothes before leaving. Stupid, meet evil. Evil, meet stupid.
susan1122
05-09-2012, 01:11 PM
Did not read about the cell phones and backpacks in an article. Must have missed it. Wait. If the backpacks were in the house, why didn't GB think something was wrong earlier? Your kids wouldn't go to school without their backpacks. You would not think ALL of them forgot.
Great point, Ghostwheel! Things are moving so fast here I hadn't even considered that.
soyesterday
05-09-2012, 01:11 PM
Did not read about the cell phones and backpacks in an article. Must have missed it. Wait. If the backpacks were in the house, why didn't GB think something was wrong earlier? Your kids wouldn't go to school without their backpacks. You would not think ALL of them forgot.
Exactly. I was just thinking the exact same thing!!!!! Wth????
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:12 PM
I think TM's lawyer is going to point out her mental problems and abuse and try to get her less time on the charges. Although there are not too many cases that are considered for the insanity plea.
Yep...to wit:
Johnson said she has asked for a mental health evaluation of her client.
According to an arrest warrant, Teresa Mayes admitted driving Jo Ann Bain and her three daughters from Hardeman County to Union County, Mississippi. Bain and her daughter Adrienne suffered "serious bodily injury as a result of their removal or confinement," according to the warrant.
Convictions carry possible sentences of 15 to 60 years in prison under Tennessee law. Bond has been set at $500,000 for Teresa Mayes and $300,000 for Mary Frances Mayes, deputy clerk Rhonda Sipes said. Both women are slated to make their next appearance in court on May 22.
Bobbi Booth, Teresa Mayes' sister, spoke to CNN's Anderson Cooper on Tuesday about Adam Mayes and his relationship with her sister, who she said has mental health problems.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/justice/tennessee-missing-children/
Patty G
05-09-2012, 01:12 PM
just my :twocents: but until I hear more details and info and these other two girls are recovered I have zero feelings about Teresa who has been charged with four counts of agg kidnapping and now first degree murder
:moo:
I totally respect your feelings, and for now, this is how I feel. I really didn't expect many to agree with my feelings, just put them out there.
2sharpe2
05-09-2012, 01:13 PM
Help you all--with my memory--Is Whiteville where the Bain's lived? If so they were killed in their garage? As hubby slept? TM drove the bodies to MS? Where does Guntown come from? Oh my I am so confused..I live in TN and never heard of these places..Does anyone know if TN has the DP?
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 01:13 PM
Great point, Ghostwheel! Things are moving so fast here I hadn't even considered that.
If each child kept their backpack and cellphone and inhaler in their own rooms, he might not have noticed. He only noticed his wife wasn't answering her phone. Even if he heard her phone ringing in the house, he might have thought she just forgot it. He probably didn't call the daughters' phones if he thought they were in class. Who would think their life was about to unravel like this?
Shollenberger
05-09-2012, 01:14 PM
From CNN comment:
"Teresa Mayes admitted to watching Adam Mayes kill both Jo Ann and her daughter in the family's garage that night and then drive the bodies and the two little girls to MS. The plan all along was to kidnap the little girls and kill Jo Ann and Adrienne"
My theory, Adam was having a sexual relationship with one or both of the two youngest daughters and did not want to lose this upon the family move to Arizona.
gitana1
05-09-2012, 01:15 PM
The affidavit says the same address (so same town...bad reporting, IMO). Jo Ann: garage, Adrienne: at that location.
http://files.wmctv.com/WEDTBaffidavit.pdf
And that was the house where GB and JB lived with the girls, right?
susan1122
05-09-2012, 01:17 PM
Since he stayed local after they went missing and was even questioned. I am guessing his plan was to make it look like mom ran away with her kids and left her husband. Sounds like he killer mom and daughter and had his WIFE drive them out of town, while he stayed. Did she also take the girls with her? Did he meet up with them later? He buried them on his property thinking he would notbe a suspect obviously he is not very smart. After being questioned by LE (LE states he gave them false info leading them in a different direction) he then fled.
I hope he took the girls for love and not sex and I PRAY that he does not panic and kill them too.
mo
Yeah, burying them in a shallow grave in his backyard would make me think he was either panicked or not very bright or both.
necco
05-09-2012, 01:18 PM
Exactly. I was just thinking the exact same thing!!!!! Wth????
In the father's defense, unless the backpacks were sitting on the kitchen table, I don't fault him for not noticing. Who wakes up in the morning and thinks "I should make sure the kids brought everything with them and weren't kidnapped/murdered by my friend of 10+ years." And even if they we sitting on the table, they were packing to move, I'm guessing the house was in a bit of chaos. Heck, they had 4 kids and 3 adults living there, that alone would cause a bit of chaos.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:18 PM
And that was the house where GB and JB lived with the girls, right?
Yes. The detached workshop/garage is a little ways away from the house. There's a link to a picture of it on page 1 of this thread.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 01:19 PM
http://files.wmctv.com/WEDTBaffidavit.pdf
Ghostwheel
05-09-2012, 01:19 PM
Help you all--with my memory--Is Whiteville where the Bain's lived? If so they were killed in their garage? As hubby slept? TM drove the bodies to MS? Where does Guntown come from? Oh my I am so confused..I live in TN and never heard of these places..Does anyone know if TN has the DP?
Yes,
It appears so.
Yes.
The trailer where AM lived is officially in Guntown
Yes.
susan1122
05-09-2012, 01:19 PM
And that was the house where GB and JB lived with the girls, right?
Yes. I guess AM's niece and GB were in the house. I keep wondering if AM shot JB and AB....but that just would have been too loud. This guy is dispicable.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:20 PM
This is the house. I believe its the third picture that shows the garage.
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/8590-Whiteville-Newcastle-Rd-Whiteville-TN-38075/41509965_zpid/
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:21 PM
Affidavits for both Teresa and Adam: http://localtvwreg.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/affidavitagainstadamteresamayes.pdf
Mustang Sally
05-09-2012, 01:22 PM
Hoping that FBI and Company have passed on AM and the girls pictures to the Boarder Crossings in Texas and California.!
MOO... This was a well thought out plan and he always intended to kill JoAnne and Adrienne....He had to act and act before they left...His mother and ex-wife were needed to put the plan into action...hence his not waiting until the family was back in AZ.
WTF ..the guy was last seen 4/30/12...He has had 10 DAYS to travel. He could have crossed over into Mexico Days ago and he has had time to drive well into Central America...There are countless of countries he could already set up housekeeping in
He could have dyed the girls hair black and gotten passports from his "Biker Dude Friends."
Brittany Smith's abductor (& killer of her Mother) was able to drive from North Carolina to California in 3 Days!!
MOO...AM is one sick guy and he was not going to let Anyone or Any Things stand in the way of he desire to be a father to Alexandria and Kyliyah. His so called "Sister/Daughters" were all he Had to live for...He had NO LIFE of his own outside the Bains Family...His Mother and ex-wife meant nothing for him except a means to carry out his SICK PLAN.....
Still wondering where his Father is??? Could he be traveling with him??? This would help him keep control of the girls!
Praying that Alexandra and Kyliyah are being treated well and that they do NOT know anything about the deaths of their mother and sister...Hoping that they are just thinking that they are just on "A Great Adventure With Uncle Adam"
Dear God...Please Bring Alexandria and Kyliyah Home and Bless the Souls of JoAnn and Adrienne
Nana46
05-09-2012, 01:23 PM
But if the story goes that AM was there the night before for the move the next day, then why was GB and the older daughter still in bed?????????
palaminodee
05-09-2012, 01:24 PM
In the father's defense, unless the backpacks were sitting on the kitchen table, I don't fault him for not noticing. Who wakes up in the morning and thinks "I should make sure the kids brought everything with them and weren't kidnapped/murdered by my friend of 10+ years." And even if they we sitting on the table, they were packing to move, I'm guessing the house was in a bit of chaos. Heck, they had 4 kids and 3 adults living there, that alone would cause a bit of chaos.
Good point, the house was probably a bit disorganized with moving...
so I am assuming the kids never showed up for school?
Why did GB not get a call from the school? Most schools call the parents if they do not show up to school?
WideOpen
05-09-2012, 01:25 PM
From CNN comment:
"Teresa Mayes admitted to watching Adam Mayes kill both Jo Ann and her daughter in the family's garage that night and then drive the bodies and the two little girls to MS. The plan all along was to kidnap the little girls and kill Jo Ann and Adrienne"
My theory, Adam was having a sexual relationship with one or both of the two youngest daughters and did not want to lose this upon the family move to Arizona.
Above bolded by me. does this mean the kidnapping began that night after GB went to bed at 1am, the last reported time he saw Joann?
JMO
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 01:26 PM
This almost too terrible to consider. Imagine you are 14yo Adrienne and your mom has just been killed by a man you have known and trusted your whole life, and now he is coming for you. If a gun wasn't used because it was too noisy, the other options for how he may have killed them make it all too gruesome and slow instead of quick and unexpected. Poor JB and Adrienne! I CANNOT WAIT FOR THEM TO CATCH THIS $%&*#@! He seems to have no soul!
susan1122
05-09-2012, 01:26 PM
If he just kidnapped the younger ones, then he would have become a suspect. Whereas all 4 go missing and police think mother left her husband and run away.
Which apparently did work for a little while, as police might have originally believed mother left voluntarily.
I think this is a good point....but wonder if AM is that smart. Although if AM, MM and TM were conspiring, which the affidavit says they were, then maybe they thought of this.
necco
05-09-2012, 01:28 PM
But if the story goes that AM was there the night before for the move the next day, then why was GB and the older daughter still in bed?????????
Maybe they were up late packing. Maybe the tot kept them awake into the wee hours. Depending on when school starts, they could have been on the bus wicked early. I used to leave for high school before 7am.
(My New England is showing, I said "wicked early" :blushing:)
ETA: The first bell seems to be at 7:25am. So, they'd probably leave for the bus before 7am. That's not an obscene time to sleep to, in my opinion.
tehcloser
05-09-2012, 01:28 PM
How did they keep everyone quite enough to not wake dad?
chasing.halos
05-09-2012, 01:29 PM
I am so horrified I have no words. :(
This reminds me of a combination of the Summer Inman case and the Joseph Duncan case.
Can't describe this as anything but horrifying!
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:30 PM
I think the reason he chose the garage was so Teresa could back up her car into it and putting the bodies in the trunk would be easier. He also chose to do this late at night for the same reason. He then took the keys to the Durango, got the kids up, loaded them in the Durango and met up with Teresa a couple of miles away to dump the car.
Nana46
05-09-2012, 01:31 PM
How did they keep everyone quite enough to not wake dad?
My question also Teh.........and why the hello did AM need a trailer? There were apparently two vehicles involved.........Cops have been back to the home in Whiteville.....did they close that garage area off as a crime scene? So many questions........Please let these local LE know what they are doing.
willow1
05-09-2012, 01:32 PM
They probably woke them up one at a time with a gun to their head.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:32 PM
And how convenient, he probably "helped" them pack, and packed some of the girls' clothes so he could take them with him.
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 01:33 PM
I keep wondering where AM's father is, and his sister and brother. If AM is trying to hole up with them or extended family. How long can he hide in Guntown with 2 kids. He would have to get out of there. I think before LE caught on to him he hid those kids some place else outside of Guntown with someone else, like family. And he is going to meet up with them at the place he has them stored at.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 01:34 PM
thanks sleuthupdate....I had found the Pamela- PJM- in reference to GWB previously and figured that was an ex wife, but had not connected her to ACM- so that was the missing link to how they ll knew each other, interesting.
JB's aunt had cited the connection (which was in a CNN transcript), but without a name, and CNN then said the connection was unclear (because of media reports of AM and GB marrying sisters).
Although it is still possible that both stories are true, I am pretty confident that the marrying sisters story was just mis-reporting of GB marrying AM's sister (Pamela).
Ladylub
05-09-2012, 01:34 PM
When does school let out there in TN? We have 2 weeks left here for all schools in our district and that includes exam days for our junior high and high schools. Seems like they would have waited till school was out for the summer to move the girls. At least having one parent out there to start work and getting house together.
Well, at least we know Mayes wanted the two little ones alive. Hopefully, he hasn't felt cornered enough to do something horrible yet. They need to find this guy today!
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 01:36 PM
JMO...Is anyone besides me thinking that LE/TBI/FBI/etc. must know where he and the girls are (even if separate locations) and obviously under extremely heavy surveillance, otherwise they wouldn't have filed the murder charges yet? Maybe even have the girls in protective custody (whether or not they know AM's location)? Maybe that will be announced at the presser today...JMO...
That is my fervent hope...JMO...
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 01:36 PM
My question also Teh.........and why the hello did AM need a trailer? There were apparently two vehicles involved.........Cops have been back to the home in Whiteville.....did they close that garage area off as a crime scene? So many questions........Please let these local LE know what they are doing.
Yes:
On Sunday, forensic scientists with the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation searched the garage and backyard at the Bains' home in Whiteville, Tenn.
http://www.commercialappeal.com/news/2012/may/08/bodies-idd-as-missing-mom-teen/?print=1
palaminodee
05-09-2012, 01:36 PM
Above bolded by me. does this mean the kidnapping began that night after GB went to bed at 1am, the last reported time he saw Joann?
JMO
He could have pulled them out of the house one by one from their sleep and handed them over to TM to put in the trailer...he could have driven the Durango to ditch and she could have picked him up?
GB said no one was home when he woke up...does that include AM?
Where was AM when LE spoke to him?
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 01:36 PM
No mention of AM's father, I think those little girls are with AM's father somewhere. If AM's mother knew and was part of it, I am sure the father is too.
Nana46
05-09-2012, 01:37 PM
When does school let out there in TN? We have 2 weeks left here for all schools in our district and that includes exam days for our junior high and high schools. Seems like they would have waited till school was out for the summer to move the girls. At least having one parent out there to start work and getting house together.
I am not sure about Hardeman county...most of ours are on the almost same schedule....we get out the end of May...however Lauderdale county gets out a week or so before us.
Just checked their schools website ....they get out May 23. Hardeman County.
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 01:38 PM
I live in Madison County Alabama, and my daughter gets out May 21st
nursebeeme
05-09-2012, 01:38 PM
No mention of AM's father, I think those little girls are with AM's father somewhere. If AM's mother knew and was part of it, I am sure the father is too.
I hope the reporters ask good questions at the presser... including where exactly is AM's father..
susan1122
05-09-2012, 01:39 PM
A hopeful thought. Maybe the girls don't know about the murders and AM is keeping them content by telling them they are going to meet their family some place.....
Considering
05-09-2012, 01:40 PM
I am not sure about Hardeman county...most of ours are on the almost same schedule....we get out the end of May...however Lauderdale county gets out a week or so before us.
Gary's oldest daughter wrote on one of a local television station's FB page that Jodie and the girls were not leaving until mid-May.
Nana46
05-09-2012, 01:40 PM
JMO...Is anyone besides me thinking that LE/TBI/FBI/etc. must know where he and the girls are (even if separate locations) and obviously under extremely heavy surveillance, otherwise they wouldn't have filed the murder charges yet? Maybe even have the girls in protective custody (whether or not they know AM's location)? Maybe that will be announced at the presser today...JMO...
That is my fervent hope...JMO...
Very good point...it worried me when they came out with this info as I was afraid it would push him to do even more evil if that can be imagined.
2sharpe2
05-09-2012, 01:40 PM
Reporting 2 different times for the Presser..Is it at 2 or 3pm??
AfterSunset
05-09-2012, 01:41 PM
Well, at least we know Mayes wanted the two little ones alive. Hopefully, he hasn't felt cornered enough to do something horrible yet. They need to find this guy today!
I keep clinging to this thought myself, but....he's already proved he can kill....and if push comes to shove, I don't think he would hesitate to kill these two precious little ones...oh, how I pray that stop him now...today....save those precious children!!! I'm just sick how this has all unfolded...I definitely have "trust" issues (was molested for a few years during my childhood by a family member)....therefore I do not trust any person...mainly "male" (sorry guys) who showed the slightest (imo too much) interest in my daughters or granddaughters....nada...
Ladylub
05-09-2012, 01:41 PM
I am not sure about Hardeman county...most of ours are on the almost same schedule....we get out the end of May...however Lauderdale county gets out a week or so before us.
Okay thanks. Just wondering.... Had the girls left their school bags at home dad may not have thought anything of it if they were nearing the end of school.
Nana46
05-09-2012, 01:41 PM
We are central time so I think it is 2.
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 01:41 PM
I think the girls are with AM's father, and I don't think they witnessed the murder of their sister and mother. Maybe they were told that they would stay with AM's father while their family gets things done for Arizona. So they have no idea. No one knows what AM's father looks like, so he can travel freely around with these girls.
mamamia54
05-09-2012, 01:41 PM
I just hope they find this guy and the girls so this doesn't turn into another Josh Powell incident.
krkrjx
05-09-2012, 01:42 PM
If TM was involved in the kidnapping she can be charged with murder even if she didn't commit that act. A death during a kidnapping--even an accidental death--is murder, and all perps present at the time of the death are equally involved in the murder.
susan1122
05-09-2012, 01:43 PM
Good point, the house was probably a bit disorganized with moving...
so I am assuming the kids never showed up for school?
Why did GB not get a call from the school? Most schools call the parents if they do not show up to school?
Maybe the school called Jo Ann's phone? When my son was in elementary the school didn't call....in middle school they are on top of it.
Hopeful One
05-09-2012, 01:44 PM
Did the school call home to report the girls absent that day?
Hope32
05-09-2012, 01:45 PM
Sorry if already posted
http://files.wmctv.com/WEDTBaffidavit.pdf
It states that she was present in the garage when he killed Jo Ann in the garage. And Adrienne at the same location but not necessarily in the garage and it doesn't state that she was present with Adrienne..
Looks like the one is because she saw it and the second because she helped to move the bodies
Hopeful One
05-09-2012, 01:45 PM
Maybe the school called Jo Ann's phone? When my son was in elementary the school didn't call....in middle school they are on top of it.
HA! I guess we all had the same thought at the same moment!
Nana46
05-09-2012, 01:45 PM
Did the school call home to report the girls absent that day?
I am not sure all schools do this IMO.
Hopeful One
05-09-2012, 01:46 PM
Our schools call within 15 minutes of the start of school if our children don't show up and we've forgotten to call in (which we do quite often).
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 01:49 PM
I saw where the Mayes family also lived in Lawtey Florida at one time. I am going with my thesis that AM's father has the two girls and is in Florida. The girls no nothing and think they are on a trip. And AM will have an easier time getting there without having the two girls with him. He will meet them there.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 01:50 PM
Reporting 2 different times for the Presser..Is it at 2 or 3pm??
2 pm CST, 3 pm EST.
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 01:52 PM
Mayes, wife charged with two counts of first degree murderhttp://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
JMO...Is anyone besides me thinking that LE/TBI/FBI/etc. must know where he and the girls are (even if separate locations) and obviously under extremely heavy surveillance, otherwise they wouldn't have filed the murder charges yet? Maybe even have the girls in protective custody (whether or not they know AM's location)? Maybe that will be announced at the presser today...JMO...
That is my fervent hope...JMO...
Just catching up Cazzie but has the manner of death been determined by autopsy yet? I wonder what the statute on bringing forth murder charges in TN requires? Could it be that a formal manner of death is required? That's the only thing I can think of offhand that would hold up a charge. JMHO and TIA for any answers I get, this thread has moved so fast I have to go back and read about 40 pages to catch up from where I left off yesterday!
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 01:54 PM
Yes, the article says in the same town but the affidavit is more specific and says Adrienne was killed at the same location as JoAnn.
Breaking news in Memphis -- Teresa Mayes charged with first degree murder. Reports say Jo Ann Bain and Adrienne Bain killed by Adam Mayes in garage next to their home in Whiteville, their bodies driven to Mississippi by his wife. http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
imawitch
05-09-2012, 01:55 PM
Good point, the house was probably a bit disorganized with moving...
so I am assuming the kids never showed up for school?
Why did GB not get a call from the school? Most schools call the parents if they do not show up to school?
in my state, the public schools dont call until after school lets out for the day...some times, its a recording, automated voice that informs the parents that "said child" was absent from school that day...
my son, he is in private school now, and I kept him home one day as he had a fever,,,the school never even called...
I dont know how things work in various states tho?
and yes, I went to the school office, and gave them a piece of my mind for not calling...in the future, the school will call after roll call if anyone is absent...
some times, its good to raise a fuss lol
I sure hope these precious children are found soon..this is all so heart wrenching, jmo
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 01:56 PM
Reward for AM is $175,000! They want him BAD!!!
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 01:57 PM
I saw where the Mayes family also lived in Lawtey Florida at one time. I am going with my thesis that AM's father has the two girls and is in Florida. The girls no nothing and think they are on a trip. And AM will have an easier time getting there without having the two girls with him. He will meet them there.
this morning on ABC news they reported they believe he is on foot so I hope they can surround him and get them out of there safely!
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 01:58 PM
Just catching up Cazzie but has the manner of death been determined by autopsy yet? I wonder what the statute on bringing forth murder charges in TN requires? Could it be that a formal manner of death is required? That's the only thing I can think of offhand that would hold up a charge. JMHO and TIA for any answers I get, this thread has moved so fast I have to go back and read about 40 pages to catch up from where I left off yesterday!
No cause of death released yet (that I've seen) but possibly will be announced at the presser?
Good point you made. But really I'm questioning that they would file the recent charges without first ensuring that the girls are safe...and, JMO but they must either have them safe or know for sure that they were...killed. JMO I could be way off base. Then again, if they are safe, wouldn't that be announced pretty quickly (rather than scheduling a presser several hours in advance)? IDK.
Anyone else think it would be easy for Adam Mayes to pose as a woman?
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 01:59 PM
this morning on ABC news they reported they believe he is on foot so I hope they can surround him and get them out of there safely!
I don't think the girls are with AM, I think they are with AM's father Johnny.That's my opinion. Till they show me where Johnny is, then I might think differently.
CuriousGuy
05-09-2012, 02:00 PM
Catching up and processing this new info.
Are TM and MM the dumbest two people to ever walk the earth? Did those two morons really believe they could aid and abet a kidnapping and murder and return to their home and live happily ever after? It sure seems that way since they were both easily apprehended and not hard for LE to locate.
As far as any sympathy for TM due to her supposed mental deficiencies, sorry that dog won't hunt with me. She is fully capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong. MURDERING innocent people is wrong.
Harsh I know, but I am so angry now I hope all three of them get the Jeff Dahmer treatment in prison.
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 02:00 PM
Anyone else think it would be easy for Adam Mayes to pose as a woman?
Yea, I could totally see it.
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 02:01 PM
Anyone else think it would be easy for Adam Mayes to pose as a woman?
Well hes 6'3" !!!1
Ghostwheel
05-09-2012, 02:02 PM
There is a time line thread for links and known happenings. No discussion, but a great place to post links to stories and catch up!
Thank you HeinekenMan and nursebeeme.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171583
CuriousGuy
05-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Anyone else think it would be easy for Adam Mayes to pose as a woman?
Possibly, but he would be one ugly woman!!
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Anyone else think it would be easy for Adam Mayes to pose as a woman?
Not easy (he's 6' 3", if the info is correct). Wig, makeup, clothing, shoes...sure, but he'd still stand out.
necco
05-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Anyone else think it would be easy for Adam Mayes to pose as a woman?
He's 6'3"
And, mods forgive me, he'd make one seriously ugly woman. I think he'd stick out more in drag than as a guy.
ETA I see we have a consensus on that fact. 3 posts in a row. Heh.
Hope32
05-09-2012, 02:03 PM
Anyone else think it would be easy for Adam Mayes to pose as a woman?
but hard because he cut off his hair on 4/30 in the video..
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 02:04 PM
I wonder how they know (or think) he is on foot? He could easily carjack someone, put a gun to thier head and say drive! Or just do away with the person driving which he probably doesn't have a problem with. I hope they are checking into stolen vehicles around the area.
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 02:04 PM
Catching up and processing this new info.
Are TM and MM the dumbest two people to ever walk the earth? Did those two morons really believe they could aid and abet a kidnapping and murder and return to their home and live happily ever after? It sure seems that way since they were both easily apprehended and not hard for LE to locate.
As far as any sympathy for TM due to her supposed mental deficiencies, sorry that dog won't hunt with me. She is fully capable of knowing the difference between right and wrong. MURDERING innocent people is wrong.
Harsh I know, but I am so angry now I hope all three of them get the Jeff Dahmer treatment in prison.
On NG last night someone said that AM is dangerous because he dosent THINK! He just DOES! he does not think!
dosent worry about consequences just whats happening now!
scary
I dont think AM will make it to jail nor prison!
he is a dead man walking!
HeinekenMan
05-09-2012, 02:05 PM
Remember that report that his family was in a hotel somewhere? I have assumed that the father and mother and daughter were in the hotel, and I assumed that they were arrested at the hotel. I guess I figured that Johnny Mayes was still at the hotel. If he's unaccounted for, you think that would have been included in the Amber Alert stuff. So I assume they know where he is.
Where do you read or hear that he's on foot? I had wondered about that since they seem to be focused near his home and have inspected cars leaving the area and haven't given a description of his vehicle. I'm still wondering whether he had an ATV or a small motorcycle.
jjenny
05-09-2012, 02:05 PM
Well hes 6'3" !!!1
He'd make one woman that would really turn heads. And not for good reasons.
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 02:06 PM
but hard because he cut off his hair on 4/30 in the video..
A quick trip to Sally's would fix that. Wigs are easily accessible. He probably has to much pride to do it though being a complete narcissist and all.
PinkiGreen
05-09-2012, 02:06 PM
Well hes 6'3" !!!1
My mom is too.
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 02:06 PM
I wonder how they know (or think) he is on foot? He could easily carjack someone, put a gun to thier head and say drive! Or just do away with the person driving which he probably doesn't have a problem with. I hope they are checking into stolen vehicles around the area.
I dont know but thats what the reporter said he was there talking to the guy at the conv store.... he said they believe him to be on foot and in the area.
I dont think any have been stolen maybe this is why they think hes on foot!
nursebeeme
05-09-2012, 02:07 PM
The man suspected of kidnapping a woman and her three daughters -- and then killing two of them -- has been rushed to the top of the FBI's list of its Top Ten Most Wanted fugitives.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/adam-mayes-makes-fbi-top-10-wanted-family/story?id=16312023#.T6qyOO19GXw
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 02:07 PM
That is an awful ugly thought of him dressed like a women. Ewww. I could see him getting spray tan and making himself darker and maybe dying his hair darker, so he does not look white but more hispanic.
Eileen730
05-09-2012, 02:08 PM
My mom is too.
Well your mom is one tall lady!
I think AM will have a hard time pretending to be a woman !
JMO
jjenny
05-09-2012, 02:09 PM
I dont know but thats what the reporter said he was there talking to the guy at the conv store.... he said they believe him to be on foot and in the area.
I dont think any have been stolen maybe this is why they think hes on foot!
I really find it hard to believe he is on foot, in the area, and with two little girls.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 02:09 PM
From the other thread:
I really hope this has to do with the murder charges for TM and not more bodies... :(
I expect an update, with noting that he is on most wanted list (and armed and extremely dangerous).
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 02:09 PM
Since LE released his other alias, I'm thinking he was planning on using that one. Also, his Paco alias came out pretty quickly thanks to Facebook. So, he probably abandoned that one. This leads me to believe that he was planning on utilizing a "white" persona, especially since both girls have blonde hair. And that leads me to think he was not planning on crossing over the border, but he could have changed his mind last minute.
Did anyone ever figure out if the 2/3/2012 date was wrong or a typo? If he was planning this for that long, he could have had time to get Christopher Wylde documents ready.
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 02:10 PM
He could have a beard too. I noticed in the surv. video that he was getting scruffy. That changes a man's face a lot because it hides so much.
Ghostwheel
05-09-2012, 02:10 PM
There is a time line thread for links and known happenings. No discussion, but a great place to post links to stories and catch up!
Thank you HeinekenMan and nursebeeme.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=171583Quoting myself. We flipped over pages quickly with the AM dressed as a woman comment.
cocomod
05-09-2012, 02:10 PM
I have thought since the first of this that AM took the family for his interest in the two young girls. I know that it has been stated that he believed that at least one of the children were his, but I think that this was an excuse for his extreme interest in the family. IMHO, he was grooming the girls and the family; and he made excuses to friends and family for his extreme interest. I do not think that either of these two girls look like him. He scares me!! He has very distinct facial features, and neither of these girls have any of those features. I think that all three girls look very much like their dear mother.
I honestly believe that the mother died trying to save her girls; and I am not certain that his story that he "dated" Joann is true. I think it is very likely that he wanted to date her, but I am not certain that this is true.
I am a very light sleeper, but my husband takes sleeping pills and he can sleep though anything. He never wakes up to anything. I came to realize that I would need to defend our home if anything ever happened. I made him buy me a small handheld gun that I keep for my peace of mind. I took a gun class; and I feel much better. Having said this, I can see how Joann may have heard a noise and came out to see what is going on. She may have found him either moving the girls out of the home; or he may have asked to speak with her outside and killed her. I am not yet sure what I believe.
The affidavit does not state where in the home that the 14 year old A was killed. She may have been killed in her own room - IMO. I personally think that he may have killed both Joann and A to give him more time to get away with the girls. It makes me wonder what conversation he may have had with Adam that day.
My question is - why didn't Teresa go with him and the girls? I am confused as to why she would help him get the girls, watch him kill Joann, move Joann and A's bodies, but she did not accompany him when he left with the girls.
I am hoping that these girls are alive. :pray:
I am also heart-sick for Adam. I can't imagine the pain and agony that he must be feeling for losing his dear wife, his adopted daughter A, and for wondering what must be going on with his other daughters.
This is a horrible, horrible case and I just wish that he would be found already!!
CinnamonGirl
05-09-2012, 02:11 PM
And the name Paco Rodrigass, evidently he has some people that think he looks hispanic, or maybe he can do a good spanish accent or speak spanish. He could blend in with darker skin and darker hair and black mustache. And make the girls hair darker.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 02:14 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/adam-mayes-makes-fbi-top-10-wanted-family/story?id=16312023#.T6qyOO19GXw
HLN says FBI presser will announce that AM is on 10 most wanted list.
The reward for information leading to Mayes' capture is now $175,000, including a combination of state and federal agency reward money.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/justice/tennessee-missing-children/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
winterrose
05-09-2012, 02:15 PM
TM wouldn't be charged with two counts of first degree murder if she just drove a vehicle and saw him digging a hole. If this was part of the plan they had planned one month or two months before, it's premeditated, also.
Considering
05-09-2012, 02:15 PM
On the Help find Jo Ann Thompson Bain & Girls FB page, someone (RB) has used photoshop to make some composities of what the 2 girls and AM might look like with short hair, different color hair, beard if anyone is interested. Look under the recent posts.
SoBeCzar
05-09-2012, 02:16 PM
Since LE released his other alias, I'm thinking he was planning on using that one. Also, his Paco alias came out pretty quickly thanks to Facebook. So, he probably abandoned that one. This leads me to believe that he was planning on utilizing a "white" persona, especially since both girls have blonde hair. And that leads me to think he was not planning on crossing over the border, but he could have changed his mind last minute.
Did anyone ever figure out if the 2/3/2012 date was wrong or a typo? If he was planning this for that long, he could have had time to get Christopher Wylde documents ready.
Don't forget the girls hair is possibly dyed.
tiredblondy
05-09-2012, 02:19 PM
I don't think the girls are with AM, I think they are with AM's father Johnny.That's my opinion. Till they show me where Johnny is, then I might think differently.
Surely if that's the case LE and FBI have that covered! :please:
Virtual Truth
05-09-2012, 02:22 PM
Mary Frances Mayes, Adam's mother, has also been charged. She's accused of conspiracy to commit especially aggravated kidnapping.
Terry Dycus, Mary's attorney, told Action News 5 that she waants her son to turn himself in to authorities and hopes for the girls' safe return. She also claims she wasn't involved in her son's plot.
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
Sounds like AM's mommy is sorry now...
CharlestonGal
05-09-2012, 02:23 PM
Who the hello helps their ex-husband kidnap 4 innocent females, kill two of them, drive 2 live and 2 dead bodies to their home in another state, then watches while he buries them? She (and mom too, IMO) deserve the death penalty right along with AM. They are all complete POS.
oh_gal
05-09-2012, 02:26 PM
Paco Rodrigass? Is he illiterate? It sounds like he tried to spell it out phonetically, and failed miserably. That's a pretty insulting name to anyone with an authentic Latino/Hispanic name.
ryanemsmom
05-09-2012, 02:27 PM
Don't forget the girls hair is possibly dyed.
They found hair clippings and hair dye at AM's home, so I think it is a safe bet those girls have shorter hair and a different color.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 02:28 PM
HLN says FBI presser will announce that AM is on 10 most wanted list.
The reward for information leading to Mayes' capture is now $175,000, including a combination of state and federal agency reward money.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/justice/tennessee-missing-children/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
The above quote has been changed:
The reward for information leading to Mayes' capture is now $71,000, including a combination of state and federal agency reward money.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/justice/tennessee-missing-children/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 02:28 PM
Anybody know the address of County Line One Market where AM bought the sodas? I can't find it anywhere...
Nevermind, found it their fb page...
animallvr
05-09-2012, 02:31 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but if she witnessed it, that means she spent the night the night before.
Where is the dad, I am about to die to know where he is!
willow1
05-09-2012, 02:31 PM
Anybody know the address of County Line One Market where AM bought the sodas? I can't find it anywhere...
Nevermind, found it their fb page...
Is it confirmed he did buy sodaS (plural)?
katydid23
05-09-2012, 02:32 PM
Is it confirmed he did buy sodaS (plural)?
He bought ONE soda. :mad:
jjenny
05-09-2012, 02:32 PM
Is it confirmed he did buy sodaS (plural)?
He bought one soda (singular).
Lucid
05-09-2012, 02:36 PM
This guy is a nut. No way those two pretty girls came from him. He "hopes" they are, or "wants" them to be, maybe. I don't even think he genuinely believes they are his - he just wishes and is using it as an excuse to live out his fantasy.
Hopefully he's nothing more than a stalker type. I think he is obsessed with them. They're cute kids, and he's probably lived a life of being teased for his looks, as a child especially, I'd bet. Hopefully he did not take them for any reason beyond wishing they were truly his. But I'd bet anything he knows they are not. Just wishes.
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 02:36 PM
Is it confirmed he did buy sodaS (plural)?
No, typo. I only saw one myself. The little girl behind him had two.
winterrose
05-09-2012, 02:37 PM
TM now says she was present when AM killed JB in the garage, but yet she tells her sister, after she hadn't talked to her for over ten years, JB was possibly having an affair with AM. So she was laying blame on JB to make an excuse of why she was part of all this horror, even after watching this poor woman and her child killed. What a sick twisted family.
CuriousGuy
05-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Mary Frances Mayes, Adam's mother, has also been charged. She's accused of conspiracy to commit especially aggravated kidnapping.
Terry Dycus, Mary's attorney, told Action News 5 that she waants her son to turn himself in to authorities and hopes for the girls' safe return. She also claims she wasn't involved in her son's plot.
http://www.wmctv.com/story/18242709/fbi-will-hold-news-conference-regarding-missing-bain-girls-at-2-pm
Sounds like AM's mommy is sorry now...
Easy to say that now. She can go pound sand !
tiredblondy
05-09-2012, 02:42 PM
Am I the only one that thinks AM was actually looking at the surveillance camera at one point in the convenience store?
I mean I got the impression he wanted to be seen alone and with the short hair. I think that was part of his plan.
I'm trying to figure out what he would do after that if that was the purpose of appearing in a surveillance video.
HaikuMommy
05-09-2012, 02:43 PM
This guy is a nut. No way those two pretty girls came from him. He "hopes" they are, or "wants" them to be, maybe. I don't even think he genuinely believes they are his - he just wishes and is using it as an excuse to live out his fantasy.
Hopefully he's nothing more than a stalker type. I think he is obsessed with them. They're cute kids, and he's probably lived a life of being teased for his looks, as a child especially, I'd bet. Hopefully he did not take them for any reason beyond wishing they were truly his. But I'd bet anything he knows they are not. Just wishes.
I think it is *BARELY* possible that Alexandria is his child, but not likely. However, I don't believe for a second that Kyliyah is his. So if he's convinced both are, I think maybe he is delusional. Again, here is a photo showing Gary Bain in the left in the only public photo I've seen, and AM on the right. Kyliyah has GB's nose shape, face shape, hair color, and ESPECIALLY mouth shape. It's quite distinctive in my opinion, and different from her older sisters' mouth shapes. JMO
RoseRed
05-09-2012, 02:44 PM
Personally I think Alexandria looks just like MJ.
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 02:45 PM
Am I the only one that thinks AM was actually looking at the surveillance camera at one point in the convenience store?
I mean I got the impression he wanted to be seen alone and with the short hair. I think that was part of his plan.
I'm trying to figure out what he would do after that if that was the purpose of appearing in a surveillance video.
I did notice that! I just don't think he's that smart to think that elaborately. My first thought is that he happened to notice the camera and probably felt nervous.
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 02:46 PM
WMCTV.COM will stream the FBI's news conference live at 2 p.m. and will air it live on Action News 5.
(no link on their website that I can find...grrrr...plus I can't undo their bold font)
Anyone have a link, plz?
ETA: livestream.com/actionnews5
Litig8ter
05-09-2012, 02:47 PM
Not sure what I can do with this. There is a facebook page for a guy whose initials are MJ in Hardeman Co., TN and he appears to be the bio father of Adrienna and Alexandria. Can I post a link? He was previously married to JB.
RoseRed
05-09-2012, 02:50 PM
http://www.livestream.com/actionnews5
andalso
05-09-2012, 02:51 PM
Where they heck is this guy?
If he uses drugs, he will eventually need to get some and I think that could trip him up.
If he doesn't get his fix, I worry how much more crazy that will make him. (If you can get any more crazy then this).
Patty G
05-09-2012, 02:52 PM
Personally I think Alexandria looks just like MJ.
I"m lost, who is MJ?
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 02:52 PM
another link: http://www.wtva.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx
I"m lost, who is MJ?
He is believed to be AB and ABs dad, I believe.
palaminodee
05-09-2012, 02:54 PM
Sorry if this has been mentioned before but if she witnessed it, that means she spent the night the night befoer.
Where is the dad, I am about to die to know where he is!
I agree,,,where is the DAD?
Lots of vacant homes and abandoned properties in rural MS to hide...if there IS a mole, they could be feeding AM info and supplies...
or as you suggested...they are with the DAD or other "Helper"
Did they actually think they could convince LE and GB that JB just left with the kids, AM and TM suddenly have children? Convince all around them of that and the kids to go along with this scheme as well??
The kids are too old and smart for that.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 02:55 PM
WMCTV.COM will stream the FBI's news conference live at 2 p.m. and will air it live on Action News 5.
(no link on their website that I can find...grrrr...plus I can't undo their bold font)
Anyone have a link, plz?
http://www.wmctv.com/category/196691/action-news-5-live-video-coverage
RoseRed
05-09-2012, 02:55 PM
I"m lost, who is MJ?
JB's first husband and says he is father of two oldest girls.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 02:56 PM
Live here: http://www.livestream.com/actionnews5
Uhh...well, it was (voice over).
tiredblondy
05-09-2012, 02:56 PM
I did notice that! I just don't think he's that smart to think that elaborately. My first thought is that he happened to notice the camera and probably felt nervous.
That's possible but I suspect he realizes that the videos are in almost all stores. I just can't get past the fact I think he wanted to be seen.
I read earlier (please don't ask me for the links) that he'd sold a lot of his personal belongings, like the bike, etc, so I suspect he'd been planning this for a long time.
There had to be a plan to hide afterwards, he's got two children with him somewhere. I don't think he shared these plans with TM or his mom knowing they'd tell. I just don't think he is in this town. I also think he might be just a little bit smarter than we think he is.
This whole thing is upsetting like why did he kill JB and A? Why couldn't he have just taken the two girls? The only thing I can think of is he felt like JB betrayed him in some way.
Patty G
05-09-2012, 02:57 PM
JB's first husband and says he is father of two oldest girls.
Has the first husband's picture shown up anywhere in an MSM article so that I can take a peek at it? TIA
Has the first husband's picture shown up anywhere in an MSM article so that I can take a peek at it? TIA
I don't think so...only thing I've seen of him in MSM is that he is too upset to speak.
RoseRed
05-09-2012, 03:01 PM
Has the first husband's picture shown up anywhere in an MSM article so that I can take a peek at it? TIA
No not in MSM. He has posted on the help find page.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 03:01 PM
http://www.livestream.com/actionnews5
Sounds like getting ready for FBI News Conference.
Statement soon.
winterrose
05-09-2012, 03:01 PM
I think it is *BARELY* possible that Alexandria is his child, but not likely. However, I don't believe for a second that Kyliyah is his. So if he's convinced both are, I think maybe he is delusional. Again, here is a photo showing Gary Bain in the left in the only public photo I've seen, and AM on the right. Kyliyah has GB's nose shape, face shape, hair color, and ESPECIALLY mouth shape. It's quite distinctive in my opinion, and different from her older sisters' mouth shapes. JMO
The baby looks just like GB and I think the middle one looks like JB and MJ, her Dad and AB, the oldest, esp looked like her Mom. None of those kids look like that man who's done this. He was infatuated with the kids, on his fb there were no pics of him and JB, it was all the kids and all the pics I've seen are of him and the kids, one with GB in it. Neighbors say he had pics of the kids in his home, and he was saying they were his. He lived in a fantasy world.
CharlestonGal
05-09-2012, 03:02 PM
I agree,,,where is the DAD?
Lots of vacant homes and abandoned properties in rural MS to hide...if there IS a mole, they could be feeding AM info and supplies...
or as you suggested...they are with the DAD or other "Helper"
Did they actually think they could convince LE and GB that JB just left with the kids, AM and TM suddenly have children? Convince all around them of that and the kids to go along with this scheme as well??
The kids are too old and smart for that.
BBM. I don't think these geniuses thought that far ahead. It's apparent to me that none of the perps has two brain cells to rub together, much less to mastermind a complex kidnapping plot. Which is why they are all in deep excrement now. These people are not evil and smart. They are evil and stupid, which is a whole other thing.
hellinor
05-09-2012, 03:05 PM
I checked HLN and they're talking about John Travolta.......
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 03:05 PM
That's possible but I suspect he realizes that the videos are in almost all stores. I just can't get past the fact I think he wanted to be seen.
I read earlier (please don't ask me for the links) that he'd sold a lot of his personal belongings, like the bike, etc, so I suspect he'd been planning this for a long time.
There had to be a plan to hide afterwards, he's got two children with him somewhere. I don't think he shared these plans with TM or his mom knowing they'd tell. I just don't think he is in this town. I also think he might be just a little bit smarter than we think he is.
This whole thing is upsetting like why did he kill JB and A? Why couldn't he have just taken the two girls? The only thing I can think of is he felt like JB betrayed him in some way.
You could be totally right, I just hate to give him that much credit in the brains department!!
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 03:06 PM
GRRRR false alarm....
strawberry
05-09-2012, 03:06 PM
Did the PC start? When I click play on that link I get a spinning circle.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 03:07 PM
Lots of LE agencies are going to talk...about 5 mins.
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:07 PM
announced will begin in 5 minutes
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 03:07 PM
Live here: http://www.wtva.com/content/mediacenter/default.aspx
winterrose
05-09-2012, 03:08 PM
For any of those who can't see the livestream...
A number of people will be speaking in 5 minutes, the Special Agent in charge in Memphis, the DA of the State, I believe and the Sheriff of Union County. They'll be more, didn't catch it all.
bendrn
05-09-2012, 03:08 PM
Sorry to be pessimistic, but I think the chances of the 2 little ones still being alive are slim to none. As freakishly obsessed with them as he is, I cannot imagine that he would put even their most basic needs above his. I.e., food and shelter. If he is truly on foot, I believe he would be far more interested in saving his own hide at this point. Far easier for him to stay alive and hidden without having to consider them anymore.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 03:09 PM
http://www.livestream.com/actionnews5
Multiple speakers followed by Q&A.
Will start in less than 5 min
jjenny
05-09-2012, 03:13 PM
Sorry to be pessimistic, but I think the chances of the 2 little ones still being alive are slim to none. As freakishly obsessed with them as he is, I cannot imagine that he would put even their most basic needs above his. I.e., food and shelter. If he is truly on foot, I believe he would be far more interested in saving his own hide at this point. Far easier for him to stay alive and hidden without having to consider them anymore.
I disagree. Shasta Groene was found alive and that guy was on foot. Elizabeth Smart also found alive. I think it's very possible the children are still alive.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 03:13 PM
Yes...one of the reporters just stated that she is going to ask what kind of car he is driving.
Patty G
05-09-2012, 03:13 PM
No not in MSM. He has posted on the help find page.
Do you happen to have the link to that Facebook page? TIA
I have the link to the information and thank you all!
strawberry
05-09-2012, 03:14 PM
Did this reporter just say the mother or wife drove the bodies to the house?
TNGirl615
05-09-2012, 03:15 PM
Here we go!
trigger
05-09-2012, 03:15 PM
It started on HLN News
butterfly1978
05-09-2012, 03:15 PM
WS is lagging I hope it doesn't start messing up during the presser!!!
Since they know the girls hair is dyed and cut short I hope they release a picture of what the girls look like with dyed hair and cut short.
Presser is about to start
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 03:16 PM
Multiple speakers followed by Q&A.
Will start in less than 5 min
Also on HLN
raineday
05-09-2012, 03:16 PM
Chanel 3 ABC in Memphis is reporting that a caravan of MS LE just pulled up to an area 20 mins ago, about five miles away from place the bodies were found, and dog crews are searching an area in the woods. LE asked the news crew to leave the area.
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:17 PM
http://www.livestream.com/actionnews5
AM: unlawful flight to avoid prosecution
autopsy not completed for JB and AB
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:19 PM
they're thanking all the LE from 2 states (after urged the public to report anything suspicious)
reward up to $100,000....total is $171,000 (or 175,000)
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 03:19 PM
Reward is 175,000.00
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 03:19 PM
Reward to $175,000
Added to 10 Most Wanted
susan1122
05-09-2012, 03:19 PM
GB grieving loss of wife and daughter. Urges people to come forward with info. (paraphrased by me)
So devastating.
strawberry
05-09-2012, 03:20 PM
Why do my coworkers come in right when these things start? :banghead:
strawberry
05-09-2012, 03:20 PM
Is he on the top ten list now?
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:20 PM
talking statistics about the federal most wanted list
AM could be anywhere in the U.S.
ext. concerned about the safety of the girls
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 03:21 PM
Boy, they are working intimidation 100%. Big guys, top 10, etc.
They believe he could be anywhere in the United States.
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:21 PM
asking for public's help...go to fbi.gov for a closer look at AM
Mayes is now on the FBI most wanted website FYI.
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten
Patty G
05-09-2012, 03:22 PM
My thoughts: This is an "intense" manhunt.
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:22 PM
DA Hardemann county now
butterfly1978
05-09-2012, 03:23 PM
HLN went to commercial, UGGGGG!!!!
Ladylub
05-09-2012, 03:23 PM
In the video of AM in the store IMO AM it kind of seems he was holding a convo with the guy in front of him.
Boy, they are working intimidation 100%. Big guys, top 10, etc.
They believe he could be anywhere in the United States.
Quite the different approach than Clint Van Zant used this morning on the "Today Show."
JMO, IMO, :moo:, and all other disclaimers.
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 03:23 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:23 PM
talking about AM/TM's add'l charges...2 counts of 1st degree murder (we knew that already)
reward is for arrest and conviction of anyone responsible
Patty G
05-09-2012, 03:23 PM
Adam Mayes - 10 Most Wanted
http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2012/may/mayes_050912/mayes_050912
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:24 PM
TBI director now
Hopeful One
05-09-2012, 03:24 PM
Thanks for the updates for those of us unable to watch live! :blowkiss:
Cazzie
05-09-2012, 03:24 PM
they think the girls are with AM
cocomod
05-09-2012, 03:25 PM
Thinks bringing him in on the top 10 list will bring about the publicity needed to find AM
sleuthupdate
05-09-2012, 03:25 PM
http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten
ADAM CHRISTOPHER MAYES
Unlawful Flight to Avoid Prosecution - Especially Aggravated Kidnapping
REWARD: The FBI is offering a reward of up to $100,000 for information leading directly to the arrest of Adam Mayes.
Adam Christopher Mayes is wanted in connection with the alleged kidnapping of four female victims from Whiteville, Tennessee, on April 27, 2012. Two of the victims were later found deceased in Guntown, Mississippi.
Mayes may have changed his physical appearance by growing a beard or cutting his hair.
SurfieTX
05-09-2012, 03:25 PM
The side-by-side video is showing some real action by LE.
cocomod
05-09-2012, 03:25 PM
FBI - #1 priority is to find girls
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