Darlie's Psychological Profile

[Kaly]

What do you think? Does this sound like her?

From:http://www.peaceandhealing.com/personality/narcissistic_symptoms.asp

Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms

The narcissistic personality disorder is one of the top three most difficult personality disorders to treat. It is defined as an ongoing pattern of grandiosity and need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others. It should be noted that it is three times more common in males than females. These individuals have an obvious self love, and believe they are knowledgeable and indeed expert in a wide variety of areas. They are usually shocked when they are not praised for their efforts. These individuals are preoccupied with success and power. They feel they are gifted and talented. They may make statements like, “I have a photographic memory,” when in reality they do not. They rarely admit to a mistake or wrongdoing. They rarely apologize when the occasion arises. These individuals insist on having the best of everything. They are grossly defensive, and unable to look at themselves objectively. They have an inflated and false sense of entitlement, and lack of sensitivity towards others. They feel they deserve whatever they want or need. These individuals are extremely self-absorbed. If they are giving, they usually give monetarily, and are unable to give emotionally. They are viewed by others as arrogant and snobbish, act condescendingly towards healthcare providers and therapists in the assessment phase. It is also very common for these individuals to act ingratiatingly and very complimentary in the first session, very similar to traits found in sociopathic personality disorder. These individuals are extremely sensitive to criticism, although may not show it outwardly. When their shortcomings are targeted, however, they may appear extremely wounded.

[Dark Knight]

What do you think? Does this sound like her?

From:http://www.peaceandhealing.com/personality/narcissistic_symptoms.asp

Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms

The narcissistic personality disorder is one of the top three most difficult personality disorders to treat. It is defined as an ongoing pattern of grandiosity and need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others. It should be noted that it is three times more common in males than females. These individuals have an obvious self love, and believe they are knowledgeable and indeed expert in a wide variety of areas. They are usually shocked when they are not praised for their efforts. These individuals are preoccupied with success and power. They feel they are gifted and talented. They may make statements like, “I have a photographic memory,” when in reality they do not. They rarely admit to a mistake or wrongdoing. They rarely apologize when the occasion arises. These individuals insist on having the best of everything. They are grossly defensive, and unable to look at themselves objectively. They have an inflated and false sense of entitlement, and lack of sensitivity towards others. They feel they deserve whatever they want or need. These individuals are extremely self-absorbed. If they are giving, they usually give monetarily, and are unable to give emotionally. They are viewed by others as arrogant and snobbish, act condescendingly towards healthcare providers and therapists in the assessment phase. It is also very common for these individuals to act ingratiatingly and very complimentary in the first session, very similar to traits found in sociopathic personality disorder. These individuals are extremely sensitive to criticism, although may not show it outwardly. When their shortcomings are targeted, however, they may appear extremely wounded.
Ok, am I the only one who thought this also sounded a LOT like President Bush??? Seriously!

[Peake]

LOL, Dark Knight -- Political Pavilion for that :)

Regards,
Pea

[Dark Knight]

LOL, Dark Knight -- Political Pavilion for that :)

Regards,
Pea
Yes, I know. Sorry. It just struck me as awfully close to my perception of him so I blurted it out, lol. I wasn't for the other guy, either, I opted out of this election, hehe. ;)

[Kaly]

Ok, am I the only one who thought this also sounded a LOT like President Bush??? Seriously!
Hahaha! I concur wholeheartedly! :dance:

[jaeger]

I know a person who I believe has NPD, and one of the most striking aspects of this syndrome is that they think they are so much smarter than everyone else that they can get away with anything. The woman I know did things that were clearly illegal, but it never even occured to her that she would get caught.

[Jeana (DP)]

I know a person who I believe has NPD, and one of the most striking aspects of this syndrome is that they think they are so much smarter than everyone else that they can get away with anything. The woman I know did things that were clearly illegal, but it never even occured to her that she would get caught.


That would explain the birthday party.

[Pocono Sleuther]

That would explain the birthday party.
What would explain the two hour memorial service beforehand though???????????

[Mary456]

What would explain the two hour memorial service beforehand though???????????

I don't know what's to explain because, as far as I know, no one has ever seen it. The State was perfectly agreeable to that tape being shown in court, but for some reason the defense didn't want to show it.

Considering her calm, carefree, who gives a chit demeanor afterward at the birthday party, I can understand why they'd want to keep it under wraps.

[accordn2me]

I don't know what's to explain because, as far as I know, no one has ever seen it. The State was perfectly agreeable to that tape being shown in court, but for some reason the defense didn't want to show it.

I don't know who made the most mistakes - the court reporter, or MULDER.

[cami]

What do you think? Does this sound like her?

From:http://www.peaceandhealing.com/personality/narcissistic_symptoms.asp

Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms

The narcissistic personality disorder is one of the top three most difficult personality disorders to treat. It is defined as an ongoing pattern of grandiosity and need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others. It should be noted that it is three times more common in males than females. These individuals have an obvious self love, and believe they are knowledgeable and indeed expert in a wide variety of areas. They are usually shocked when they are not praised for their efforts. These individuals are preoccupied with success and power. They feel they are gifted and talented. They may make statements like, “I have a photographic memory,” when in reality they do not. They rarely admit to a mistake or wrongdoing. They rarely apologize when the occasion arises. These individuals insist on having the best of everything. They are grossly defensive, and unable to look at themselves objectively. They have an inflated and false sense of entitlement, and lack of sensitivity towards others. They feel they deserve whatever they want or need. These individuals are extremely self-absorbed. If they are giving, they usually give monetarily, and are unable to give emotionally. They are viewed by others as arrogant and snobbish, act condescendingly towards healthcare providers and therapists in the assessment phase. It is also very common for these individuals to act ingratiatingly and very complimentary in the first session, very similar to traits found in sociopathic personality disorder. These individuals are extremely sensitive to criticism, although may not show it outwardly. When their shortcomings are targeted, however, they may appear extremely wounded.

And there's the histrionic personality disorder as well. These go hand in hand.

A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

-is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
-interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
-displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
-consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
-has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
-shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
-is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are

[Goody]

What do you think? Does this sound like her?

From:http://www.peaceandhealing.com/personality/narcissistic_symptoms.asp

Narcissistic Personality Disorder Symptoms

The narcissistic personality disorder is one of the top three most difficult personality disorders to treat. It is defined as an ongoing pattern of grandiosity and need for admiration, and a lack of empathy for others. It should be noted that it is three times more common in males than females. These individuals have an obvious self love, and believe they are knowledgeable and indeed expert in a wide variety of areas. They are usually shocked when they are not praised for their efforts. These individuals are preoccupied with success and power. They feel they are gifted and talented. They may make statements like, “I have a photographic memory,” when in reality they do not. They rarely admit to a mistake or wrongdoing. They rarely apologize when the occasion arises. These individuals insist on having the best of everything. They are grossly defensive, and unable to look at themselves objectively. They have an inflated and false sense of entitlement, and lack of sensitivity towards others. They feel they deserve whatever they want or need. These individuals are extremely self-absorbed. If they are giving, they usually give monetarily, and are unable to give emotionally. They are viewed by others as arrogant and snobbish, act condescendingly towards healthcare providers and therapists in the assessment phase. It is also very common for these individuals to act ingratiatingly and very complimentary in the first session, very similar to traits found in sociopathic personality disorder. These individuals are extremely sensitive to criticism, although may not show it outwardly. When their shortcomings are targeted, however, they may appear extremely wounded.
I think it sounds more like Darin. In all my reading about Darlie, I have never had the impression that she was insensitive or that she couldn't give emotionally. I think she disassociated from the boys, but I have never thought it was because she was narcissistic. On the other hand, I can't deny that this particular quote from the above definitely fits into my picture of her. "These individuals insist on having the best of everything. They are grossly defensive, and unable to look at themselves objectively. They have an inflated and false sense of entitlement,..... . They feel they deserve whatever they want or need. These individuals are extremely self-absorbed."

[Goody]

That would explain the birthday party.
I have always figured that it never occurred to her that anyone would question her motives about that. That's why she put on such a show. I think she thought it was PC in the liberal world and that everyone would understand and agree with her. Kind of like Scott Peterson trying to tell people Laci was okay with his affair with Amber. Darlie was trying to convince us that the boys led a full and happy life while on earth and that they wouldn't want her to spend her life grieving over them so it was okay for her to go on with life as usual. Put that behind us and now let's see what is on the horizon. She must have been blown away when she found out it wasn't going to be bright lights, fame, and fortune.

[Goody]

And there's the histrionic personality disorder as well. These go hand in hand.

A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

-is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
-interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
-displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
-consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
-has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
-shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
-is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are
Darlie seems to have more of these than the narcissistic patterns, though I would say she definitely has some.

[Goody]

What would explain the two hour memorial service beforehand though???????????
What's to explain? You do what you have to. The memorial service was probably not her idea to begin with. If it was, she may have really felt a need to express what she felt she should be feeling, rather than what she was actually feeling. Or maybe she is one of those people who can push anything negative so far away that she didn't believe she was guilty of any wrongdoing. Her actions at the birthday party seem to be screaming loud and clear that she should not be expected to grieve, that she had the kids' permission to go on with her life happily, and it was all justified by her view that they would be waiting for her in heaven so she really hadn't lost anything. I don't think a two hour memorial service makes up for her insensitivity at the birthday party. I don't think a 5 hour memorial service could do that either. The point is she shouldn't have been showing any insensitivity at all if she was actually grieving.

However, I gotta say that I have never put much focus on the birthday party or the memorial service because I don't think either tells us much. It is her interview afterwards that I find most interesting and telling about where she is really coming from.

[Goody]

I don't know who made the most mistakes - the court reporter, or MULDER.
Well, neither were in areas of much significance. The transcript was completed by another court reporter. I can't think of anything Mulder did that would have gotten her off if he had done it another way. Can you?

[blueclouds]

Ok, am I the only one who thought this also sounded a LOT like President Bush??? Seriously!
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


lmao rofl..... DKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

IT sounds like CANADIAN POLITICAL LEADERS!!!!!!!!!! HAVE YOU NOT HEARD ABOUT THE OVER THROW OF THE LIBERAL PARTY AND THEY REFUSE TO LEAVE???? WHY???? BECAUSE THEY STOLE A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY!!!??

LMAO..... AT LEAST Your President would probably LEAVE when voted out! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[Goody]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


lmao rofl..... DKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

IT sounds like CANADIAN POLITICAL LEADERS!!!!!!!!!! HAVE YOU NOT HEARD ABOUT THE OVER THROW OF THE LIBERAL PARTY AND THEY REFUSE TO LEAVE???? WHY???? BECAUSE THEY STOLE A WHOLE BUNCH OF MONEY!!!??

LMAO..... AT LEAST Your President would probably LEAVE when voted out! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
hahahahaa! I wouldn't be too sure about that. I think he likes being president. hahahahaha!

[blueclouds]

hahahahaa! I wouldn't be too sure about that. I think he likes being president. hahahahaha!
At least your Pres is only allowed 2 terms.... Our leader can go on forever. :bang:

[cami]

What would explain the two hour memorial service beforehand though???????????


Would it explain why she invited the news crew to film her little romp at the gravesite instead of inviting them to film the memorial service?

I think that was the more approiate gathering. Just my opinion though and nothing more.

[DebC]

And there's the histrionic personality disorder as well. These go hand in hand.

A pervasive pattern of excessive emotionality and attention seeking, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

-is uncomfortable in situations in which he or she is not the center of attention
-interaction with others is often characterized by inappropriate sexually seductive or provocative behavior
-displays rapidly shifting and shallow expression of emotions
-consistently uses physical appearance to draw attention to self
-has a style of speech that is excessively impressionistic and lacking in detail
-shows self-dramatization, theatricality, and exaggerated expression of emotion
-is suggestible, i.e., easily influenced by others or circumstances
considers relationships to be more intimate than they actually are
Hmm, good find Cami.
I think Darlie showed most of these characteristcs at one time or another.
Her little "Rape" scene years before at the party is a good example.

[Jeana (DP)]

Hmm, good find Cami.
I think Darlie showed most of these characteristcs at one time or another.
Her little "Rape" scene years before at the party is a good example.


You can only imagine what she "pulled" along this vein over the years that her family and friends didnt' testify to.

[cami]

Hmm, good find Cami.
I think Darlie showed most of these characteristcs at one time or another.
Her little "Rape" scene years before at the party is a good example.

Yes, and so is her silly string party. It's a perfect example of HPD.

[cami]

At least your Pres is only allowed 2 terms.... Our leader can go on forever. :bang:

Yeah, we thought we'd never get rid of Chretein. Now we are probably going to another election next month on the non-confidence vote. Harper is determined to bring Martin down. Maybe we should allow the PQs to run the country. S'imaginer cela! Meilleur commencer à pratiquer mon français.

[Goody]

At least your Pres is only allowed 2 terms.... Our leader can go on forever. :bang:
Isn't that a little bit like having a king? :dance:

Not that kings are all bad. I am just glad right now that we do have term limits. Only so much damage can be done that way. :clap:

[Goody]

Would it explain why she invited the news crew to film her little romp at the gravesite instead of inviting them to film the memorial service?

I think that was the more approiate gathering. Just my opinion though and nothing more.
She didn't want people filming her during a serious service. That is my take on it, anyway. She put on a show for the cameras at the birthday party. She could handle that emotionally, but not the memorial service. I am not sure that was a deliberate manipulation for ill-begotten motives or not. It could mean that she just wasn't comfortable being observed when she was not in control. At that time, I don't think she thought she was even a suspect, so it is possible that she didn't consider that anyone would question her grief. I wonder though...does anyone know what the press was printing about her at that time? It seems to me that they might have been questioning her guilt while the police were trying to reassure her they did not believe such suspicions, hoping over confidence would do her in. I don't think I have seen the old articles about the case in the early days.

[Goody]

Yes, and so is her silly string party. It's a perfect example of HPD.
Okay, You love doing this to me. What is HPD? Some kind of disorder, I guess, but which one???????

[cami]

Okay, You love doing this to me. What is HPD? Some kind of disorder, I guess, but which one???????

LOl, it's Histrionic Personality Disorder.

[CyberLaw]

Usually when a person has a serious personality disorder of a Cluster type B, they have an additional underlying serious personality disorder also.

Do you know that NPD is a pathology for a Sociopath.

I would guess that Darlie has HPD and NDP.

[cami]

Usually when a person has a serious personality disorder of a Cluster type B, they have an additional underlying serious personality disorder also.

Do you know that NPD is a pathology for a Sociopath.

I would guess that Darlie has HPD and NDP.

NPD and HPD appear to go hand in hand to me anyway. What do you think?

[CyberLaw]

I would say, that she has both. Your right, they usually are both underlying pathology.

As soon as I read the "rape" story, I immediately thought HDP. Then everything else confirmed it. You know trashy, flashy, blonde, etc.

I am pretty sure that Darin shares NPD with Darlie. That is why he "defends" her. Married her.....stayed with her.....

Both personality disorders are indicative of a false human being. All fake.....

[Jeana (DP)]

I would say, that she has both. Your right, they usually are both underlying pathology.

As soon as I read the "rape" story, I immediately thought HDP. Then everything else confirmed it. You know trashy, flashy, blonde, etc.

I am pretty sure that Darin shares NPD with Darlie. That is why he "defends" her. Married her.....stayed with her.....

Both personality disorders are indicative of a false human being. All fake.....

I'm no expert on it, but it did seem to be the "Darlie & Darin Show" whenever they showed up someplace! Center of attention doesn't begin to describe it. I guess that's why it infuriates me even more when they try to tell us that "Darlie was the intended target." LOL Its ALLLLLLL about her. For all that this/these intruder(s) had to go through to pull this off, they/he must have been the luckiest SOB on earth.

[Rachael]

I agree with both diagnosis. Darlie is all about Darlie (Darlie's hair, Darlie's fake tan, Darlie's sleep, Darlie's clothes). I read that Darlie went to sleep downstairs because of the baby's crying and moving kept her up all night (that's called being a mother sweetie!!) yet she slept through the stabbing of her sons sleeping a foot or so away from her. :loser: I also guess the the intruder walked into the house and took a knife went back outside and cut the screen then walked back in to the house and put the knife back in the drawer (they found fibers on a kitchen knife that matched the screen). Sure! Darlie did it. No question in my mind!


JMO though!

[mollymalone]

I agree with both diagnosis. Darlie is all about Darlie (Darlie's hair, Darlie's fake tan, Darlie's sleep, Darlie's clothes). I read that Darlie went to sleep downstairs because of the baby's crying and moving kept her up all night (that's called being a mother sweetie!!) yet she slept through the stabbing of her sons sleeping a foot or so away from her. :loser: I also guess the the intruder walked into the house and took a knife went back outside and cut the screen then walked back in to the house and put the knife back in the drawer (they found fibers on a kitchen knife that matched the screen). Sure! Darlie did it. No question in my mind!


JMO though!That's a main problem with her entire story, she can't sleep because the baby moves around and yet she claims to have slept thru her son's murders and her own self being cut. :snooty: :rolleyes:

[mollymalone]

Hmm, good find Cami.
I think Darlie showed most of these characteristcs at one time or another.
Her little "Rape" scene years before at the party is a good example.I must have missed something what "rape scene" are you referring to?

[Jeana (DP)]

I must have missed something what "rape scene" are you referring to?


Someone will probably have to refresh my memory, but:
when Darin graduated from high school, his mother threw him a party at home. Darlie wasn't the center of attetntion and want to leave. Darin did't want to leave, so Darlie decided to "walk home." Darlie comes back to the party a short time later and tells everyone about the alleged "rape," thus turning the attention back on to herself ( where it beloned :innocent: ). Obviously,the party was over and Darlie got what she wanted -Darin -- all to herself.

[Goody]

I am pretty sure that Darin shares NPD with Darlie. That is why he "defends" her. Married her.....stayed with her.....


I think it is a bit simpler than that. He is up to his eyeballs in guilt right along with her. What role he played exactly is still a question, but I don't think any innocent father would defend her this long and this faithfully for any reason other than that. But I do agree that they both probably share personality disorders. That wouldn't be a surprise either.

[Goody]

That's a main problem with her entire story, she can't sleep because the baby moves around and yet she claims to have slept thru her son's murders and her own self being cut. :snooty: :rolleyes:
No, she only claimed that at first. By the time the trial rolled around they had discovered that she was really suffering from traumatic amnesia and that is why she didn't remember waking up during the attacks on the children. Still no explanation for why they found no blood spatter or cast offs on the sofa; or why they found no knife cuts on the sofa, but give them time (Darlie and Darin that is) they will come up with something eventually.

[Goody]

Someone will probably have to refresh my memory, but:
when Darin graduated from high school, his mother threw him a party at home. Darlie wasn't the center of attetntion and want to leave. Darin did't want to leave, so Darlie decided to "walk home." Darlie comes back to the party a short time later and tells everyone about the alleged "rape," thus turning the attention back on to herself ( where it beloned :innocent: ). Obviously,the party was over and Darlie got what she wanted -Darin -- all to herself.
Yep, that is it, alright!

[Rachael]

I beg to differ.. ;) I believe a father would defend the mother more than the mother would defend the father. That's how I have always felt about the Ramsey's. Though I am sure it's reversed in some cases. I think Darlie was a "prize" to Darin. The beautiful blonde wife that he some how snagged. She was more attractive than he. I don't know if he believes that she didn't kill his boys or that he is just defending her because he doesn't want to lose her. He may just be in complete denial ala Peterson. I think some people are in complete denial of what their spouse or family member is capable of. It would take some good hard proven evidence for me to ever believe that my husband or child was capable of murdering someone. What is the current status of their "marriage" did he file for divorce?

[Rachael]

No, she only claimed that at first. By the time the trial rolled around they had discovered that she was really suffering from traumatic amnesia and that is why she didn't remember waking up during the attacks on the children. Still no explanation for why they found no blood spatter or cast offs on the sofa; or why they found no knife cuts on the sofa, but give them time (Darlie and Darin that is) they will come up with something eventually.



I don't believe that for a minute. Darlie is full o crap. She knew what was going on because she was the one doing it. JMO of course! :truce:

[Goody]

I don't believe that for a minute. Darlie is full o crap. She knew what was going on because she was the one doing it. JMO of course! :truce:
Isn't it amazing that some people really do believe it? LOL! I mean, even if it were plausible that she had TA, would she have it for nearly ten years now???

[Goody]

I beg to differ.. ;) I believe a father would defend the mother more than the mother would defend the father. That's how I have always felt about the Ramsey's. Though I am sure it's reversed in some cases. I think Darlie was a "prize" to Darin. The beautiful blonde wife that he some how snagged. She was more attractive than he. I don't know if he believes that she didn't kill his boys or that he is just defending her because he doesn't want to lose her. He may just be in complete denial ala Peterson. I think some people are in complete denial of what their spouse or family member is capable of. It would take some good hard proven evidence for me to ever believe that my husband or child was capable of murdering someone. What is the current status of their "marriage" did he file for divorce?
The big difference between the Routier case and the Ramsey's is that even if Patsy did hurt her daughter, it most likely was an accident. I don't think John would have defended her if she had butchered their two kids and let them bleed out on their living room floor, claiming an intruder came in and did it, and just basically destroyed his family in a blood bath. That is an incredibly difficult thing for a father to forgive, for either parent to forgive. I can't imagine anyone being so devoted to someone who would do such a vicious thing, esp for so long, all the while shielding accusations against himself because of his loyalty. Darin just doesn't strike me as a man who has the guts to stand up to that unless there is something in it for him. John Ramsey, on the other hand, would, imo, (have the guts, that is), but I don't think even he would carry loyalty that far.

Don't forget. These murders not only destroyed Darin's family but his career and his business as well. With the rep he has now, he will probably never get back to the financial potential he once had going from him. And we're supposed to believe that he can put the violent murders of his sons behind him but his loyalty and devotion to their murderer is undying???? I don't think so.

[cami]

Isn't that a little bit like having a king? :dance:

Not that kings are all bad. I am just glad right now that we do have term limits. Only so much damage can be done that way. :clap:

LOl, no, kings are not elected. They are born into their positions.

[Goody]

LOl, no, kings are not elected. They are born into their positions.
Is Cami trying to make Goody look dumber than a box of rocks???? hahahahahahah. Of course, kings are not elected. But I suppose they could be if some country so desired. They elect dictators, don't they????

[Jeana (DP)]

Easybz,

If you can find the link for that article, send it to me in a PM and I'll restore the post. Thanks.

[St3phanie]

Quote by Goody: It is her interview afterwards that I find most interesting and telling about where she is really coming from.


I'm curious about what she said in the interview? Can you tell us?

[Goody]

Quote by Goody: It is her interview afterwards that I find most interesting and telling about where she is really coming from.


I'm curious about what she said in the interview? Can you tell us?
I think I was referring to the interview after the silly string party. You can see it at justicefordarlie.net. At least they used to have it, I think. It isn't so much of what she said but her mannerisms. Or maybe it was a combination of both. She made comments about how the boys wouldn't want Mommy and Daddy to be sad, that they had lived a full life and would want their parents to be happy,.....I can't remember it all, but she seemed ready and willing to get on with her life. There are times when Darin looks off into the distance (regret? guilt?) and there is a far away look in his eye. Then Darlie does it a little too, but she seems to be following his gaze. Only a week, maybe ten days,after the brutal murders of her sons, she held up surprisingly well and positive. Certainly better than anyone I have ever known. You will just have to see it for yourself.