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jellybeanz
06-21-2012, 01:37 AM
I stumbled on ** this ** (http://www.cp24.com/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20101105/101105_assault/20101105/?hub=CP24Home)crime, whilst looking at Mariam's thread. So, Magnotta could fit the description, but why would he be in this area?

Well, there's a hair restoration clinic there! * hair restoration clinic * (https://plus.google.com/115949996630024376277/about?gl=uk&hl=en)

Wouldn't it be amazing if he was at that clinic that day?

claudicici
06-21-2012, 06:10 AM
He does not fit the description at all IMO.Nor would he sexually assault a 15 year old girl.
Unless for notoriety and in that case he would have announced it somehow.

jellybeanz
06-21-2012, 12:17 PM
I'm of the mind he wouldn't blog about all his nasty crimes, only the biggies. I also think Magnotta the rookie would fancy his chances face to face with a female or a child, rather someone that could overpower him. He would need drugs to render his larger victims helpless - a coward.

From the description

a dark brown complexion, medium build and balding with short black hair.

The man, who was wearing a black jogging outfit, is believed to be between 25 and 30 years old and about five-foot-10.I've bolded the bits I think he could easily fall under.

The most interesting thing to me here is the location of the hair clinic to the crime - I would love to know where he had his procedures done, and if it was there, then I would want to know when he was there.

missm
06-21-2012, 01:47 PM
LM is homosexual, I do not think he would commit a rape on a teenage girl, even though rape is a crime of power & humiliation.

He has been known to torture animals; specifically kittens. He's made video of torturing and killing cats previously.

Had our government made effective laws against animal cruelty, he could have been introduced to the justice ststem much, much earlier. For years there has been a group of people who tried to track him down and get him charged for these animal videos.

I guess the police were "too busy".

This is the result.

fittzi
06-21-2012, 07:12 PM
I'm of the mind he wouldn't blog about all his nasty crimes, only the biggies. I also think Magnotta the rookie would fancy his chances face to face with a female or a child, rather someone that could overpower him. He would need drugs to render his larger victims helpless - a coward.

From the description
I've bolded the bits I think he could easily fall under.

The most interesting thing to me here is the location of the hair clinic to the crime - I would love to know where he had his procedures done, and if it was there, then I would want to know when he was there.

What dark brown complexion? The boy is lily white, for heaven's sake!

jellybeanz
06-21-2012, 07:42 PM
What dark brown complexion? The boy is lily white, for heaven's sake!

I was thinking make-up

matou
06-24-2012, 08:25 PM
Well, we know about the animal killings and so did the police. Police were looking for him, likely for questioning in regards to the kitten killings.

Just in:Landlord says police asked about Luka Rocco Magnotta weeks before killing

His former landlord said he gave up his furnished, second-floor bachelor apartment at the end of February, about two months after moving in. It was an abrupt departure — he only advised the superintendent about a week before he packed up.
Magnotta indicated that he was moving back to Toronto. In fact his next known address, the alleged scene of the killing, was only a few kilometres away in west-end Montreal.
Does anyone know the address of where he was when he killed Lin Jun or the address from this story? TIA

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1216470--landlord-says-police-asked-about-luka-rocco-magnotta-weeks-before-killing?bn=1

sillybilly
06-24-2012, 08:47 PM
5720 Decarie Blvd (boul. Décarie) was the most recent addy in Montreal.

According to the following article, the earlier address seems to have been around Charlevoix St in the Point St. Charles area:

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120607/mtl_magnotta_update_120607?hub=EdmontonHome


MONTREAL — Residents of Point St. Charles recall Luka Magnotta when he lived around Charlevoix St. last year as a loner with a deep voice ...

No_Stone_Unturned
06-24-2012, 08:56 PM
5720 Decarie Blvd (boul. Décarie) was the most recent addy in Montreal.

According to the following article, the earlier address seems to have been around Charlevoix St in the Point St. Charles area:

http://edmonton.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120607/mtl_magnotta_update_120607?hub=EdmontonHome

So the murder took place on Boul. Decarie? Why did I think it was more into the centre of Montreal?

Hmmmm.............

sillybilly
06-24-2012, 09:50 PM
@matou

That Charlevoix addy the waitress referred to must have been from 2011, because I just found the article about the photographer who was at LRM's apartment in 2011:


Mason agreed to meet the man, who he understood to be a gay model, at Rocco’s apartment in the gentrifying southwest Montreal neighbourhood of Pointe-Saint-Charles. And so it was that around lunchtime on Saturday, May 1 of last year, Mason arrived at Rocco’s apartment, near the Charlevoix metro<bbm>

matou
06-24-2012, 09:58 PM
@matou

That Charlevoix addy the waitress referred to must have been from 2011, because I just found the article about the photographer who was at LRM's apartment in 2011:

<bbm>

It could be the same one. He lived in Point St Charles before his last apartment. From the article:


Over in Point St. Charles, the building that Magnotta called home for two months last winter is less than a kilometre from the convenience store where Lin worked as a part-time cashier.

http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120624/magnotta-police-landlord-120624/20120624/?hub=MontrealHome

Haunted82
06-24-2012, 10:07 PM
It could be the same one. He lived in Point St Charles before his last apartment. From the article:



http://montreal.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120624/magnotta-police-landlord-120624/20120624/?hub=MontrealHome

Strange, but he must have been in 2 seperate apartments in the Point St Charles Area

1) The Macleans photographer met him May 1 2011 at his apt "by the Charlevoix" station , which is right at Rue Charlevoix and Rue Saint Charles

2) Yet he was only in this other apartment for 2 months from Jan 2012 to end of Feb 2012 - as the landlord had the phone call in March 2012 but had "just missed him by 2 weeks" . After this he moved to 5720 Decarie, as that pieces together correct with the Decarie manager saying he had been there "about 4 months" .

sillybilly
06-24-2012, 10:24 PM
And sometime between those May 2011 and May 2012 Montreal apartments, he was also supposedly in Toronto. Don't know if we've ever been able to verify that particular stint in TO.

Sunday
06-24-2012, 11:00 PM
Umm, dark brown skin? Umm, I don't think so.

Sierra20
06-25-2012, 04:22 AM
So the murder took place on Boul. Decarie? Why did I think it was more into the centre of Montreal?

Hmmmm.............

In the media it is documented as apartment 208, 5309 Place Lucy in Montreal

interesting article: http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2012/06/04/19835616.html

sillybilly
06-25-2012, 05:01 AM
The intersection is Place Lucy and Decarie Blvd. LRM actually lived in 5720 Decarie faces onto Decarie at the corner of Place Lucy. The suitcase was found in alley behind that apartment building, and the back alley is between his apartment building and 5309 Place Lucy.

matou
06-25-2012, 01:01 PM
I'm wondering about the possibility of his involvement in the death of a homeless man and the sexual assault of an unconscious or dead female. On the youtube post from May 15th by Alexis Reich, there is discussion of these as being real. In the email to Romeo Salta, Luka mentions that "Manny" made him perform cunnilingus on an unknown woman for a long time and he didn't want to. While this in not the same as what is mentioned in the youtube comments, it still may be related. JMO

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bizarre-backstory-of-the-alleged-canadian-psycho-2012-6

HastingsChi
06-25-2012, 08:23 PM
I'm wondering about the possibility of his involvement in the death of a homeless man and the sexual assault of an unconscious or dead female. On the youtube post from May 15th by Alexis Reich, there is discussion of these as being real. In the email to Romeo Salta, Luka mentions that "Manny" made him perform cunnilingus on an unknown woman for a long time and he didn't want to. While this in not the same as what is mentioned in the youtube comments, it still may be related. JMO

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bizarre-backstory-of-the-alleged-canadian-psycho-2012-6

Matou : I too have long wondered about the claim Magnotta made regarding the homeless gentleman. If I recall correctly it was claimed that there was a video of this.

The reason I give this claim a great deal of validity is that Magnotta has a near perfect track record regarding claims and documentation of claims-- as in the instances in which he or one of his many internet profiles have stated something would be showcased via photo/video.

Regarding "Manny", honestly I don't give any validity to claims of his existence beyond Magnotta's imagination; but I would LOVE to be proven wrong; that would be awesome.

matou
06-25-2012, 09:51 PM
Matou : I too have long wondered about the claim Magnotta made regarding the homeless gentleman. If I recall correctly it was claimed that there was a video of this.

The reason I give this claim a great deal of validity is that Magnotta has a near perfect track record regarding claims and documentation of claims-- as in the instances in which he or one of his many internet profiles have stated something would be showcased via photo/video.

Regarding "Manny", honestly I don't give any validity to claims of his existence beyond Magnotta's imagination; but I would LOVE to be proven wrong; that would be awesome.

Oh, I don't believe in Manny at all. I think he wrote about this particular complaint against Manny as a way to validate something that could come up as another one of his crimes (video of him assaulting an unconscious or dead female). Perhaps we can glean some insight about Luka from his emails to Romeo, without believing in the existence of Manny. "Manny", I believe, is his scapegoat.

I don't see anything that relates to hurting a homeless man on his list so perhaps it happened more recently, if it happened at all. I am worried though, that something DID happen, since his other threats have been realized. I HOPE, it was something he was going to do in the future and he was arrested before he could accomplish it (in France?) JMO

Donyale
06-25-2012, 11:56 PM
I'm wondering about the possibility of his involvement in the death of a homeless man and the sexual assault of an unconscious or dead female. On the youtube post from May 15th by Alexis Reich, there is discussion of these as being real. In the email to Romeo Salta, Luka mentions that "Manny" made him perform cunnilingus on an unknown woman for a long time and he didn't want to. While this in not the same as what is mentioned in the youtube comments, it still may be related. JMO
http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bizarre-backstory-of-the-alleged-canadian-psycho-2012-6

I've been worried about that too...
I remember he posted at least 3 times talking about his aunt and the homeless man murder. 'Linda Williams' and 'babydollLW' were the nicknames he used to write those comments. At first I thought it was just hype because in the movie American Psycho, Patrick Bateman kills a homeless guy. But today I wonder if he was actually telling the truth.
here: http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic89464-40.html

"Re: The 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video
by babydollLW » Sun May 27, 2012 5:48 pm
There are rumors that there are two more video. One of him with his aunt A*********NAME who died in 2010 mysteriously of pills being forced down her throat ( or drugged). Someone said she was laying on a pink sofa dead while Luka was performing oral sex on her????? Did he kill her because she found out about his crimes? And apparently another video where he kills a homeless man? I cant believe all this?
Also Does anyone think there is a connection to the Long Island Serial Killer? He spent alot of time living in New York?? Or the mysterious Vancouver hands and feet popping up on the shore? I have a feeling somebody who does this sort of henious crime, its not his first time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea_human_foot_discoveries#Hoaxes "

sinwonderland
06-26-2012, 12:07 AM
I wonder if he got the homeless guy idea from the 3 guys 1 hammer video. The victim in the video isn't homeless if you look it up but from watching it, I thought the guy was homeless at first, probably because they were in the woods, I don't know but that was my first impression. And if LMs video was named after it, this may have been the reason he tried to say that. Just a random thought.

x_files
06-26-2012, 12:27 AM
I've been worried about that too...
I remember he posted at least 3 times talking about his aunt and the homeless man murder. 'Linda Williams' and 'babydollLW' were the nicknames he used to write those comments. At first I thought it was just hype because in the movie American Psycho, Patrick Bateman kills a homeless guy. But today I wonder if he was actually telling the truth.
here: http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic89464-40.html

"Re: The 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video
by babydollLW » Sun May 27, 2012 5:48 pm
There are rumors that there are two more video. One of him with his aunt A*********NAME who died in 2010 mysteriously of pills being forced down her throat ( or drugged). Someone said she was laying on a pink sofa dead while Luka was performing oral sex on her????? Did he kill her because she found out about his crimes? And apparently another video where he kills a homeless man? I cant believe all this?
Also Does anyone think there is a connection to the Long Island Serial Killer? He spent alot of time living in New York?? Or the mysterious Vancouver hands and feet popping up on the shore? I have a feeling somebody who does this sort of henious crime, its not his first time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea_human_foot_discoveries#Hoaxes "

I wonder if the police found more raw footage or if it ever made it on internet? creepy.

Donyale
06-26-2012, 01:09 PM
I wonder if he got the homeless guy idea from the 3 guys 1 hammer video. The victim in the video isn't homeless if you look it up but from watching it, I thought the guy was homeless at first, probably because they were in the woods, I don't know but that was my first impression. And if LMs video was named after it, this may have been the reason he tried to say that. Just a random thought.

good point! could be inspiration from the '3g1h' video or the 'american psycho' movie scene. IDK, I only hope it was just a rumour trying to hype the 1lunatic 1icepick video.

Sunday
06-26-2012, 01:40 PM
I heard that there are entire websites dedicated to discussing murders of homeless people and how to get away with it. For one, no one notices a missing homeless person, making them the ideal target. Two, these sites go on to detail meticulous disposal, like small pieces at a time fed to pigs, dumped in the disposal, thrown in the ocean for fish food. Apparently these methods completely eliminate any trace of a body or crime. These people think they are very smart and continue to get away with it. And they also feel that homeless people are the ideal way to feed their need to kill because they are easily dehumanized and unlikely to matter to anyone or noticeably disappear. Mind boggling that these sites exist and that LE are not knocking down doors on a daily basis.

I am a very liberal person and all about civil rights, but the www is out of control. It's complete anarchy posing as civil liberty, but that's ridiculous.

sillybilly
06-26-2012, 01:59 PM
I've been worried about that too...
I remember he posted at least 3 times talking about his aunt and the homeless man murder. 'Linda Williams' and 'babydollLW' were the nicknames he used to write those comments. At first I thought it was just hype because in the movie American Psycho, Patrick Bateman kills a homeless guy. But today I wonder if he was actually telling the truth.
here: http://www.psychforums.com/antisocial-personality/topic89464-40.html

"Re: The 1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick Video
by babydollLW » Sun May 27, 2012 5:48 pm
There are rumors that there are two more video. One of him with his aunt A*********NAME who died in 2010 mysteriously of pills being forced down her throat ( or drugged). Someone said she was laying on a pink sofa dead while Luka was performing oral sex on her????? Did he kill her because she found out about his crimes? And apparently another video where he kills a homeless man? I cant believe all this?
Also Does anyone think there is a connection to the Long Island Serial Killer? He spent alot of time living in New York?? Or the mysterious Vancouver hands and feet popping up on the shore? I have a feeling somebody who does this sort of henious crime, its not his first time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea_human_foot_discoveries#Hoaxes "<bbm>

Dunno for sure, but the aunt/sofa scenario could just be another figment of LRM's prolific imagination ... he has a fascination with Marilyn Munroe and on his estrip blog (My Gallery, Pg 2), he has a pic of her on a pink sofa.

http://estrip.org/articles/read/lukamagnotta/49151


Still thinking on the homeless guy ... it does bother me re LRM's AZ posts and the fact that the dismembered guy is still unidentified (which could be because he was homeless?)

Haunted82
06-26-2012, 04:52 PM
<bbm>

Dunno for sure, but the aunt/sofa scenario could just be another figment of LRM's prolific imagination ... he has a fascination with Marilyn Munroe and on his estrip blog (My Gallery, Pg 2), he has a pic of her on a pink sofa.

http://estrip.org/articles/read/lukamagnotta/49151


Still thinking on the homeless guy ... it does bother me re LRM's AZ posts and the fact that the dismembered guy is still unidentified (which could be because he was homeless?)


Just a lot more hype than fact, guys. Like a lot of the other posts online. I'd bet anything on it. It was used as muscle to hype the ice pic video. I still believe JL was his first human.

sillybilly
06-27-2012, 02:49 AM
Magnotta Vancouver connection ‘should and will be looked at,’ say Montreal police ...


Police still don’t know what role Luka Magnotta played in Vancouver or if there is any connection between the accused grisly killer and any missing men.

At least one gay man, Filipino Edgar Espiritu Leonardo, was murdered in 2003, during the time Magnotta is believed to have been in Vancouver, and among the unsolved missing men is international student Permadech Tatti, a Thai citizen.

Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/Magnotta+Vancouver+connection+should+will+looked+M ontreal+police/6845313/story.html#ixzz1yyOFxtkJ

~n/t~
06-27-2012, 06:06 AM
Read more: http://www.theprovince.com/Magnotta+Vancouver+connection+should+will+looked+M ontreal+police/6845313/story.html#ixzz1yyOFxtkJ

I'm so relieved they'll be looking at the connection to other men. I didn't know about the Filipino gentleman but I was so hoping they'd investigate Tatti's disappearance.

IMO, Tatti is a victim of Eric Newman.

~n/t~
06-27-2012, 06:08 AM
Edgar Esperitu Leonardo was found murdered in his apartment.

http://vancouver.ca/police/policeboard/documents/200609130659RewardPoster.pdf

~n/t~
06-27-2012, 07:01 AM
18m Domenic Fazioli‏@DomenicFazioli

Report: Luka #Magnotta has so far refused to speak with Mtl homicide investigators. Has not said a peep since extradited week + half ago

http://twitter.com/#!/DomenicFazioli

italianWSfan
06-27-2012, 11:47 AM
I'm so relieved they'll be looking at the connection to other men. I didn't know about the Filipino gentleman but I was so hoping they'd investigate Tatti's disappearance.

IMO, Tatti is a victim of Eric Newman.

Sorry, but who is Tatti?
How many men went missing in Vancouver and how many of them were homosexual?
Why do police think that there could be a connection? Just because LM made some porn movies there?

sillybilly
06-27-2012, 12:20 PM
Sorry, but who is Tatti?
How many men went missing in Vancouver and how many of them were homosexual?
Why do police think that there could be a connection? Just because LM made some porn movies there?

It's not necessarily about homosexual men. In Streetbait 996 (one of the porn movies he made in Vancouver), the plot involves straight guys being lured by a guy or a guy and a woman to have sex.

Haunted82
06-27-2012, 12:43 PM
It's not necessarily about homosexual men. In Streetbait 996 (one of the porn movies he made in Vancouver), the plot involves straight guys being lured by a guy or a guy and a woman to have sex.

Yes, but that's the same recurring theme over and over in hundreds if not thousands of those short movies. Streetbait was one of a number of pornsites operating under the same umbrella. Other partnered ones such as Baitbus and BrokeStraightGuys (among others) , all have the same seduction theme with hundreds of different actors. His streetbait clip was from 9 years ago ... so it's a real real stretch from outer space for people connecting him to murders from years ago when he's 'alleged' to have emailed in Dec 2011 that he was only in the future going to be graduating to humans (Sun UK email) .

sillybilly
06-27-2012, 12:50 PM
Yes, but that's the same recurring theme over and over in hundreds if not thousands of those short movies. Streetbait was one of a number of pornsites operating under the same umbrella. Other partnered ones such as Baitbus and BrokeStraightGuys (among others) , all have the same seduction theme with hundreds of different actors. His streetbait clip was from 9 years ago ... so it's a real real stretch from outer space for people connecting him to murders from years ago when he's 'alleged' to have emailed in Dec 2011 that he was only in the future going to be graduating to humans (Sun UK email) .

It's LE who are investigating the crimes in BC. I guess you'll have to ask them why they are investigating.

Sierra20
06-27-2012, 12:59 PM
Sorry, but who is Tatti?
How many men went missing in Vancouver and how many of them were homosexual?
Why do police think that there could be a connection? Just because LM made some porn movies there?

LM liked to document himself all over the internet as a "serial killer" so the different cities he lived in should be investigated for connections!

Haunted82
06-27-2012, 01:01 PM
It's LE who are investigating the crimes in BC. I guess you'll have to ask them why they are investigating.

Fair enough, just like they investigated the Hollywood sign murder, Miami, Gatineau, etc, which all turned up a dead end. I predict the result will be the same. This makes for good press which is why MSM feeds onto it.

sillybilly
06-27-2012, 01:19 PM
Fair enough, just like they investigated the Hollywood sign murder, Miami, Gatineau, etc, which all turned up a dead end. I predict the result will be the same. This makes for good press which is why MSM feeds onto it.

Could well end up being nothing as you say, but LE would be totally remiss if they did not rule it in or rule it out. This case must be an absolute nightmare to investigate.

LRM was the one putting all the information out there as to his travels, mailing packages to Vancouver, following Vancouver on his twitter, was known to have been in Vancouver, had a $6000+ auto leasing bill, plus we have lots of young missing guys out here :(

jellybeanz
06-27-2012, 01:23 PM
Yes, but that's the same recurring theme over and over in hundreds if not thousands of those short movies. Streetbait was one of a number of pornsites operating under the same umbrella. Other partnered ones such as Baitbus and BrokeStraightGuys (among others) , all have the same seduction theme with hundreds of different actors. His streetbait clip was from 9 years ago ... so it's a real real stretch from outer space for people connecting him to murders from years ago when he's 'alleged' to have emailed in Dec 2011 that he was only in the future going to be graduating to humans (Sun UK email) .BBM

He may have been talking about graduating to uploading a film of him killing a human, leaving it open that he had killed a human before.. MOO

italianWSfan
06-27-2012, 01:26 PM
LM liked to document himself all over the internet as a "serial killer" so the different cities he lived in should be investigated for connections!

Did LM refer to himself as a "serial killer" before the kitten videos became "popular"?
I was thinking that some animal rights group was initially referring to him as a "serial (kitten) killer", and then, LM liked that reference so much, that he continued to use that expression.

I dont know if he killed other people, but I dont believe it.
To me, he seems that he was just obsessed with serial killers and horror/gore movies. Growing up following the Homolka and Bernando case (which took place in his parents hometown Scarborough, if I remember it correctly) contributed to his obsession and I think he was amazed by Karla Homolka, because she lied to the police and was in prison for only 12 years. He probably had murder fantasies for many years and in his fantasies he would enjoy all his infamy. Then he just decided to try it out, and if he would get caught, it wouldnt matter so much, because all the fame for him is more important. His life didnt seem to go in the right direction anyway, so he didnt bother much about ending up in prison.

:moo:

sillybilly
06-27-2012, 01:30 PM
There is one of the missing men cases in BC (will check, but can't recall the name right now ... sad that there are so many for so long that even the details get forgotten). LE put out video of a guy leaving the apartment building and he is wearing what is believed to be a Christian Audigier jacket. One of the nicks LRM used was "Christian Audigier" and he is known to sport Ed Hardy wear, which is by Audigier.

ETA: It was Kellen McElwee. Scroll down for stills of the surveillance video:

http://www.iammissing.ca/Missing-5.html

IMO, looks too bulky for LRM though. BTW, Kellen disappeared in March, so that jacket is pretty over-the-top for someone to be wearing in BC at that time of year. (Max/Min/Mean for Vancouver March 19 2008 was 8.5/4.3/6.4).

Haunted82
06-27-2012, 01:37 PM
Could well end up being nothing as you say, but LE would be totally remiss if they did not rule it in or rule it out. This case must be an absolute nightmare to investigate.

LRM was the one putting all the information out there as to his travels, mailing packages to Vancouver, following Vancouver on his twitter, was known to have been in Vancouver, had a $6000+ auto leasing bill, plus we have lots of young missing guys out here :(


True enough, that's the biggest challenge of this entire case. Finding what, if anything is truth on the internet trails. He put online on some of his profiles in russian wording "serial killer" .. he also attached the russian words translated as "sexy celebrity" on a lot of his uploads vids. This was obviously a figment of his imagination and more delusions of grandeur. A lot of people on here are discounting a lot his other forum postings, blogs, messages and claims (rightfully so ) , so where's the truth in him being a serial killer from the past? But agreed, they need to investigate to RULE IT OUT, which hopefully doesn't take long. The sooner they can complete this package and get on with it, the better off the public will be.

Sierra20
06-27-2012, 01:49 PM
Did LM refer to himself as a "serial killer" before the kitten videos became "popular"?
I was thinking that some animal rights group was initially referring to him as a "serial (kitten) killer", and then, LM liked that reference so much, that he continued to use that expression.

I dont know if he killed other people, but I dont believe it.
To me, he seems that he was just obsessed with serial killers and horror/gore movies. Growing up following the Homolka and Bernando case (which took place in his parents hometown Scarborough, if I remember it correctly) contributed to his obsession and I think he was amazed by Karla Homolka, because she lied to the police and was in prison for only 12 years. He probably had murder fantasies for many years and in his fantasies he would enjoy all his infamy. Then he just decided to try it out, and if he would get caught, it wouldnt matter so much, because all the fame for him is more important. His life didnt seem to go in the right direction anyway, so he didnt bother much about ending up in prison.

:moo:

Ah ok, really good theories there and it might well be the case. I'm honestly not sure of the dates he started referring to himself as a serial killer, probably within the last year so i doubt before the kitten killings.
I know he was suspected of sending an email to The Sun newspaper, as someone else mentioned in an above post, that email consisted of the quote "Once you kill, and taste blood, it’s impossible to stop" which I take to mean he has killed humans before.
And I suppose you just assume it involves humans when the term "serial killer" is used. MOO.

the seeker
06-27-2012, 01:57 PM
Fair enough, just like they investigated the Hollywood sign murder, Miami, Gatineau, etc, which all turned up a dead end. I predict the result will be the same. This makes for good press which is why MSM feeds onto it.

Do you have a link stating the investigation into the possibility of LM being the Hollywood sign killer led to a dead end? I would have bet money he did that one. TIA.

~n/t~
06-27-2012, 02:00 PM
There is one of the missing men cases in BC (will check, but can't recall the name right now ... sad that there are so many for so long that even the details get forgotten). LE put out video of a guy leaving the apartment building and he is wearing what is believed to be a Christian Audigier jacket. One of the nicks LRM used was "Christian Audigier" and he is known to sport Ed Hardy wear, which is by Audigier.

ETA: It was Kellen McElwee. Scroll down for stills of the surveillance video:

http://www.iammissing.ca/Missing-5.html

IMO, looks too bulky for LRM though. BTW, Kellen disappeared in March, so that jacket is pretty over-the-top for someone to be wearing in BC at that time of year. (Max/Min/Mean for Vancouver March 19 2008 was 8.5/4.3/6.4).

I think his "disappearance" was ruled gang related. There is also an obituary created by his parents even though he was never found.

novaspy
06-27-2012, 02:18 PM
There is one of the missing men cases in BC (will check, but can't recall the name right now ... sad that there are so many for so long that even the details get forgotten). LE put out video of a guy leaving the apartment building and he is wearing what is believed to be a Christian Audigier jacket. One of the nicks LRM used was "Christian Audigier" and he is known to sport Ed Hardy wear, which is by Audigier.

ETA: It was Kellen McElwee. Scroll down for stills of the surveillance video:

http://www.iammissing.ca/Missing-5.html

IMO, looks too bulky for LRM though. BTW, Kellen disappeared in March, so that jacket is pretty over-the-top for someone to be wearing in BC at that time of year. (Max/Min/Mean for Vancouver March 19 2008 was 8.5/4.3/6.4).

I believe in one of LRM's reality TV auditions, he claimed to have once been really overweight

Edit: Nevermind, in 2007 he is thin as a rail... can't be him (unless the jacket and pants are really just that puffy).

sillybilly
06-27-2012, 02:27 PM
I think his "disappearance" was ruled gang related. There is also an obituary created by his parents even though he was never found.


Sgt. Shinder Kirk, spokesperson for the B.C. Integrated Gang Task Force, confirmed a number of Lower Mainland individuals involved in criminal activity surrounding the drug trade work under the name the Empire gang.

"And when criminal activity is centred around the drug trade, violence is not far below the surface."

But Kirk said absolutely no evidence links the Empire gang to the murder of Kellen McElwee.<bbm>

full article at:
http://www.canada.com/vancouvercourier/news/story.html?id=129e2a3d-0b90-454c-8871-8887ca6ecb76

Sunday
06-27-2012, 02:37 PM
Could well end up being nothing as you say, but LE would be totally remiss if they did not rule it in or rule it out. This case must be an absolute nightmare to investigate.

LRM was the one putting all the information out there as to his travels, mailing packages to Vancouver, following Vancouver on his twitter, was known to have been in Vancouver, had a $6000+ auto leasing bill, plus we have lots of young missing guys out here :(
I was in San Diego from 90-92. I'm guessing there were a lot of murders in that time frame. I'm sure if I promoted some silly internet persona about blood/death/gore and then was somehow linked to a murder today that LE would look into that, although it's extremely unlikely.

The biggest question for me is: Why didn't Lula just off his ****** mom or dad? It may have been therapeutic and would have spared an innocent life.

Sunday
06-27-2012, 02:42 PM
I believe in one of LRM's reality TV auditions, he claimed to have once been really overweight

Edit: Nevermind, in 2007 he is thin as a rail... can't be him (unless the jacket and pants are really just that puffy).
Yeah, but we have seen zero evidence of that. Additionally, you will notice that Luka had a very limited wardrobe that he recycled over and over. I think that you would have seen other photos with that jacket by now. Even when the animal folks were after him he still continued to wear out the same old threads.

sillybilly
06-27-2012, 02:54 PM
I was in San Diego from 90-92. I'm guessing there were a lot of murders in that time frame. I'm sure if I promoted some silly internet persona about blood/death/gore and then was somehow linked to a murder today that LE would look into that, although it's extremely unlikely.

The biggest question for me is: Why didn't Lula just off his ****** mom or dad? It may have been therapeutic and would have spared an innocent life.

Well, if you had murdered someone, mailed parcels around the country, and posted about blood/death/gore and having been in SanDiego, can you think of one good reason why sleuthers shouldn't be discussing and examining each and every aspect of your real life and online presence?

BTW, we seek justice for all victims, whether strangers or relatives. Had he killed his parents, would they not be considered innocent victims?

Sunday
06-27-2012, 05:27 PM
Well, if you had murdered someone, mailed parcels around the country, and posted about blood/death/gore and having been in SanDiego, can you think of one good reason why sleuthers shouldn't be discussing and examining each and every aspect of your real life and online presence?

BTW, we seek justice for all victims, whether strangers or relatives. Had he killed his parents, would they not be considered innocent victims?
What I meant by the latter part of that comment was that there'd seem to be some logical rationale behind the murder, especially given the abuse allegations.

jellybeanz
06-27-2012, 05:40 PM
Do you have a link stating the investigation into the possibility of LM being the Hollywood sign killer led to a dead end? I would have bet money he did that one. TIA.I'm sure I have read it at the bottom of some articles, but had a quick google and cant track it. :banghead:

I still think Hervey Medellin's death could easily be down to LRM, looking forward to a detailed explanation from LE why it couldnt possibly have been him if they definitely have ruled him out.

jellybeanz
06-27-2012, 05:43 PM
There is one of the missing men cases in BC (will check, but can't recall the name right now ... sad that there are so many for so long that even the details get forgotten). LE put out video of a guy leaving the apartment building and he is wearing what is believed to be a Christian Audigier jacket. One of the nicks LRM used was "Christian Audigier" and he is known to sport Ed Hardy wear, which is by Audigier.

ETA: It was Kellen McElwee. Scroll down for stills of the surveillance video:

http://www.iammissing.ca/Missing-5.html

IMO, looks too bulky for LRM though. BTW, Kellen disappeared in March, so that jacket is pretty over-the-top for someone to be wearing in BC at that time of year. (Max/Min/Mean for Vancouver March 19 2008 was 8.5/4.3/6.4).

Looks to me like a slim guy in baggy jacket and trousers.
The Christian Audigier connection is spookily uncanny, I wonder what LE will make of it.

Shimmers
06-28-2012, 08:44 AM
Strange, but he must have been in 2 seperate apartments in the Point St Charles Area

1) The Macleans photographer met him May 1 2011 at his apt "by the Charlevoix" station , which is right at Rue Charlevoix and Rue Saint Charles

2) Yet he was only in this other apartment for 2 months from Jan 2012 to end of Feb 2012 - as the landlord had the phone call in March 2012 but had "just missed him by 2 weeks" . After this he moved to 5720 Decarie, as that pieces together correct with the Decarie manager saying he had been there "about 4 months" .

I don't know if you have seen this news article, but it contains a map where LM used to live an where JL worked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixuY94Ww_3M&feature=plcp"

I grabbed google maps, and he lived at the Rue Charlevoix crossing Rue de Rozel.

When that photographer said it was near the metro station, i think he ment like a 5-10 minutes walk from the metro station, instead of literally near ( across ) the station. I shall do some walking on the googlemaps, see If i can find some background from the pictures. though i believe the graffity is relativly new though..

Haunted82
06-28-2012, 10:18 AM
I don't know if you have seen this news article, but it contains a map where LM used to live an where JL worked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixuY94Ww_3M&feature=plcp"

I grabbed google maps, and he lived at the Rue Charlevoix crossing Rue de Rozel.

When that photographer said it was near the metro station, i think he ment like a 5-10 minutes walk from the metro station, instead of literally near ( across ) the station. I shall do some walking on the googlemaps, see If i can find some background from the pictures. though i believe the graffity is relativly new though..

Wow, very interesting. So that was 0689 Rue Charlevoix. What a DUMP that building was, that's a lot worse than the Decarie building. (and I'm low maintenance and I'd pass on that Charlevoix building before even stepping inside). Using Street View, I examined the adjoining red brick building and that may have been the shot of him standing there with the white spraypaint visible on the brick. They may have walked around the block a bit so it's hard to tell the other spots, as you said the graffiti may be newer. Streetview is still referencing from July 2009. Ironically, if you turn around on the street and look across, the other side's condos and buildings are quite nice, compared. Talk about 'the other side of the tracks' !

So with this, a lingering question is, why did he move from this building to the other yet unknown address (unless someone knows, post please!) in the same area. This is the one the recent article is about the landlord saying he only stayed 2 months Jan-Feb 2012, then moved to Decarie, after telling the landlord he was moving back to Toronto! Twists and turns!

randomdiet
06-28-2012, 11:18 AM
So with this, a lingering question is, why did he move from this building to the other yet unknown address (unless someone knows, post please!) in the same area. This is the one the recent article is about the landlord saying he only stayed 2 months Jan-Feb 2012, then moved to Decarie, after telling the landlord he was moving back to Toronto! Twists and turns!I think his moving and mere stay of 2 months may be abnormal to many people, but its significance would come out more apparently if it is compared with how often he moved in the past. According to some news sources he appeared to have moved quite frequently, claiming for example that he has lived on top of a bar, in England, in Toronto, in New York etc. and they are all within the last two years.

For example if the lawyer, Mr. Salta's account is accurate, http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bizarre-backstory-of-the-alleged-canadian-psycho-2012-6 then LM must have lived briefly in the US a little over a year ago, and in the last email LM gave to Mr. Salta he claimed to have moved to New Jersey. Was it true?... I don't know, but my feelings tell me he probably didn't move to New Jersey during that time. He could have just told lies and misinformation because he has been feeling particularly important, paranoid and cautious at the same time from believing that "people were onto him" "cyberstalking" or that "his life was in danger".

Shimmers
06-28-2012, 01:13 PM
I GOT IT!!!!!!

Ok after some searching graffiti online, ive found one of the photoshoot spots. In the article of mr Mason you can see a shot of Luka standing infront a graffiti with monkeys/gorilla's

http://www2.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/DSC5823.NEF_-466x700.jpg

Now have a look at this picture, which i found on a flickr account

Murals - August-Cantin & Charlevoix - Pointe St-Charles SL20090605 045 | Flickr - Photo Sharing!

This you can find @ Rue Charlevoix and August Cantin ( it says so underneath the picute )

Just do a quick googlemap search for the adress 2630 Rue Augustin Cantin, Montréal, Québec, Canada, and you see both monkey graffiti and that multicolored one from another pic you can see here

http://www2.macleans.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/DSC5827.NEF_-467x700.jpg

Hmm maybe i can find out some more, but boy haha i made a little jump when i found out this one ( even if it isn't that much of a biggie, i'm still happy that i can find out some stuff lol )

Haunted82
06-28-2012, 01:23 PM
I GOT IT!!!!!!

Ok after some searching graffiti online, ive found one of the photoshoot spots. In the article of mr Mason you can see a shot of Luka standing infront a graffiti with monkeys/gorilla's



Hmm maybe i can find out some more, but boy haha i made a little jump when i found out this one ( even if it isn't that much of a biggie, i'm still happy that i can find out some stuff lol )

Great work! Shimmers did you see my posting from today under the thread 'his belongings' regarding the Decarie apartment? Thoughts?

Shimmers
06-28-2012, 01:35 PM
Great work! Shimmers did you see my posting from today under the thread 'his belongings' regarding the Decarie apartment? Thoughts?

You mean about that appartment being available for rent? Yup it could be app. 208 ( which is the first thing i thought of), but it could also be one of the other appartments( which i doubt ). Who would want to rent app 208 if that is indeed the one for rent? That person must have lived under a stone or in a cave, when not followed the local news hehe. But if you are really curious, you could always send an email and ask for details lol ;)

sillybilly
06-28-2012, 01:57 PM
Just for general interest ... the following article from The Sun (UK) contains a pic of LRM that I hadn't seen before (couldn't copy due to copyright). Scroll down to where he is shown outside The Sun (BEWARE, there are pics of the snake and kitten below that, but nothing horrific from what I can tell):

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html

Haunted82
06-28-2012, 02:05 PM
Just for general interest ... the following article from The Sun (UK) contains a pic of LRM that I hadn't seen before (couldn't copy due to copyright). Scroll down to where he is shown outside The Sun (BEWARE, there are pics of the snake and kitten below that, but nothing horrific from what I can tell):

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html

Oh yes, I remember that article and pic. Another related SUN UKarticle shows him in the same flat cap when the reporter went back to his room above the pub to continue interviewing him (the famous "what is your name?" audio clip)

KDOGG
06-28-2012, 02:51 PM
Oh yes, I remember that article and pic. Another related SUN UKarticle shows him in the same flat cap when the reporter went back to his room above the pub to continue interviewing him (the famous "what is your name?" audio clip)

do u have a link to this?

Haunted82
06-28-2012, 03:02 PM
do u have a link to this?

Indeed I do ....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349658/Magnottas-disturbed-disturbing-disgustingbrlooking-in-his-eyesbr-left-me-shaken.html

Enjoy!

jellybeanz
06-28-2012, 03:18 PM
Just for general interest ... the following article from The Sun (UK) contains a pic of LRM that I hadn't seen before (couldn't copy due to copyright). Scroll down to where he is shown outside The Sun (BEWARE, there are pics of the snake and kitten below that, but nothing horrific from what I can tell):

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4349654/Cannibal-on-run-after-chopping-up-man-warned-The-Sun-I-cant-stop-killing.html

That pic really shows how boney his hands are!

Tucarra
06-29-2012, 03:27 PM
Previous threads have referenced the "Vancouver cat killings" that appeared to have occurred in "batches" over the period 2007-2011

In searching, it seems there was perhaps a corrollary set of oddities, as referenced in the Wikipedia article "Salish Sea human foot discoveries"

Salish Sea human foot discoveries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (not sure this is going to be an actual link...in the learning process)....

But basically describes a statistically incredible amount of human feet found in the waters off of Vancouver...in approximately the same time span as the cat killings, and perhaps LM's presence in the Vancouver area...

Related...??....thoughts...?

sillybilly
06-29-2012, 05:27 PM
Previous threads have referenced the "Vancouver cat killings" that appeared to have occurred in "batches" over the period 2007-2011

In searching, it seems there was perhaps a corrollary set of oddities, as referenced in the Wikipedia article "Salish Sea human foot discoveries"

Salish Sea human foot discoveries - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salish_Sea_human_foot_discoveries) (not sure this is going to be an actual link...in the learning process)....

But basically describes a statistically incredible amount of human feet found in the waters off of Vancouver...in approximately the same time span as the cat killings, and perhaps LM's presence in the Vancouver area...

Related...??....thoughts...?

Tucarra, i don't have all the info in front of me right now (huge computer problems this week). IIRC, most of the "feet" cases were matched through DNA (suicides) .. there may be one or two at the most unsolved

One thing that does stand out in my mind though was a torso that was found a couple of years ago in Washington State. The ME in WA was in touch with Canadian LE, and I have never heard that the torso case was matched up with any of the floating feet.

Re the cat killings in Maple Ridge and Langley (not REALLY Vancouver):

http://www.theprovince.com/news/mutilations+work+wild+predator+SPCA/6789192/story.html

I'm not really buying that though.

Tucarra
06-29-2012, 06:04 PM
Don't know, but was more referring to

http://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver-area-cats-killed-sliced-in-half-rcmp-1.560866

Where the cats were 'sliced cleanly in half'...

This is terrible to even type about...

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 09:13 PM
I GOT IT!!!!!!


Yay!! I found these too, but I haven't found any of the others. I understand that some of the Graffiti might be new, so I gave up on trying to find the brick with the white graffiti and the wall of graffiti after looking for what seemed like forever. I would have thought I would have found the Tan Brickish style place and the Brick with Blue railings by now.

Here's mine, but they are basically the exact same as yours. I hope someone finds the others; just to satisfy curious cats in us all :)

edit: Sort of funny. I posted this to one of the groups on Facebook that we created to find Luka, all proud of myself. A while later one of the members posted a link to this thread and I was like "awwww!" hee hee. Humbling at least ;)

http://abproject.org/docs/2610%20Rue%20Augustin%20Catin.jpg

http://abproject.org/docs/2630%20Rue%20Augustin%20Catin.jpg

Haunted82
06-29-2012, 10:42 PM
Yay!! I found these too, but I haven't found any of the others. I understand that some of the Graffiti might be new, so I gave up on trying to find the brick with the white graffiti and the wall of graffiti after looking for what seemed like forever. I would have thought I would have found the Tan Brickish style place and the Brick with Blue railings by now.

Here's mine, but they are basically the exact same as yours. I hope someone finds the others; just to satisfy curious cats in us all :)

edit: Sort of funny. I posted this to one of the groups on Facebook that we created to find Luka, all proud of myself. A while later one of the members posted a link to this thread and I was like "awwww!" hee hee. Humbling at least ;)


Might be difficult to find all the spots, much as I'd be interested too. These 2 spots on Augustin are 1.2 kms away from his then apt at 695 Rue Charlevoix, so it appears they really went for a good walk around the neighbourhood to find suitable spots to photograph.

sillybilly
06-29-2012, 11:42 PM
Don't know, but was more referring to

http://www.ctvnews.ca/vancouver-area-cats-killed-sliced-in-half-rcmp-1.560866

Where the cats were 'sliced cleanly in half'...

This is terrible to even type about...

Your link and mine are the same cases Tucarra. I just don't know about the explanation they are giving, and really have to question if they are on a mis-information campaign. Seriously, how does one sicko wander around BC, find cats that have been killed by coyotes in order to mutiliate them post-mortem? BTW, apparently there are some cases cropping up in Kamloops now.

The SPCA was publicly making the connection between the cat killings and the potential the perp could go on to humans. On the same day, one of BC's well-known criminologists commented to the effect that "not all cat killers go on to ..." blah blah. My immediate thought was "this criminologist doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground". A few days later Lin Jun's case hit the news :(

Having said that, years ago I had a cat come home one night, muddied, but not bloodied, seemingly none the worse for wear ... until I saw him trying to lick his chest. When I checked further, it was just like someone had taken a knife and made a surgical 3 corner slice. I rushed him to the vet, and they suspected he had had a run-in with a coyote.

If you are so inclined, check out my blog (above right corner) to read my personal story that may possibly relate to the cat killings wrt post-mortem mutiliation. At the moment, we don't know where this dude is. Further to my blog entries, both Alberta and BC news media wanted to run with a story, but the kids were/are too terrified of any repurcussions (the info would be know to have come from them) and we've all had to understand their fear and respect their wishes. As of right now, we don't know where dude is, but I suspect it's not the last we've heard of him.

Baudi Moovan
06-30-2012, 01:27 AM
Might be difficult to find all the spots, much as I'd be interested too. These 2 spots on Augustin are 1.2 kms away from his then apt at 695 Rue Charlevoix, so it appears they really went for a good walk around the neighbourhood to find suitable spots to photograph.

I believe that 695 Rue Charlevoix apartment came later, in January / February 2012.

HastingsChi
06-30-2012, 01:40 AM
Your link and mine are the same cases Tucarra. I just don't know about the explanation they are giving, and really have to question if they are on a mis-information campaign. Seriously, how does one sicko wander around BC, find cats that have been killed by coyotes in order to mutiliate them post-mortem? BTW, apparently there are some cases cropping up in Kamloops now.

The SPCA was publicly making the connection between the cat killings and the potential the perp could go on to humans. On the same day, one of BC's well-known criminologists commented to the effect that "not all cat killers go on to ..." blah blah. My immediate thought was "this criminologist doesn't know his a$$ from a hole in the ground". A few days later Lin Jun's case hit the news :(

Having said that, years ago I had a cat come home one night, muddied, but not bloodied, seemingly none the worse for wear ... until I saw him trying to lick his chest. When I checked further, it was just like someone had taken a knife and made a surgical 3 corner slice. I rushed him to the vet, and they suspected he had had a run-in with a coyote.

If you are so inclined, check out my blog (above right corner) to read my personal story that may possibly relate to the cat killings wrt post-mortem mutiliation. At the moment, we don't know where this dude is. Further to my blog entries, both Alberta and BC news media wanted to run with a story, but the kids were/are too terrified of any repurcussions (the info would be know to have come from them) and we've all had to understand their fear and respect their wishes. As of right now, we don't know where dude is, but I suspect it's not the last we've heard of him.

SB what a well written post; I feel like I need to shower after reading that disturbing info... It is quite admirable that your actions were incredibly compassionate and humanitarian in bringing the animal to receive care.

I agree that the mutilations in those areas are likely unrelated to Magnotta because, as we know, Magnotta takes pride in documenting such actions and the documentation is an important motivation for him.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2

Shimmers
06-30-2012, 06:12 AM
Might be difficult to find all the spots, much as I'd be interested too. These 2 spots on Augustin are 1.2 kms away from his then apt at 695 Rue Charlevoix, so it appears they really went for a good walk around the neighbourhood to find suitable spots to photograph.

We don't when he lived @ charlevoix/rue de rozel and that newsarticle doesnt state it either. The only thing we do know is:
- that he lived @charlevoix/rue de rozel there at one point ( for how long is also unknown )
- 1 street where the graffitishots are taken
- That he lived in the neighbourhood around May 2011 and in Jan/Feb 2012.

Maybe I'm missing something, but if anyone has additional info please, add it to this tiny list.

When did that waitress serve him, was that in 2011 or 2012 ( was in a newsarticle )?

Shimmers
06-30-2012, 06:33 AM
[QUOTE=Baudi Moovan;8103020]Yay!! I found these too, but I haven't found any of the others. I understand that some of the Graffiti might be new, so I gave up on trying to find the brick with the white graffiti and the wall of graffiti after looking for what seemed like forever. I would have thought I would have found the Tan Brickish style place and the Brick with Blue railings by now.

Here's mine, but they are basically the exact same as yours. I hope someone finds the others; just to satisfy curious cats in us all :)

edit: Sort of funny. I posted this to one of the groups on Facebook that we created to find Luka, all proud of myself. A while later one of the members posted a link to this thread and I was like "awwww!" hee hee. Humbling at least ;)

[QUOTE]

Hehehe :blushing:, let me give you a hug then :)

Same as you, i also cannot find that building red bricks an the blue railings, that tan wall and the other graffitispots. But in my first stroll around that area ( on google maps though, since in live in europe ) i found a real similair tan brick wall, but i was focussed on the graffiti and i passed by. Now for the life of me i can't find it. There is one picture of LM sitting on the ground in front of a graffiti wall, but you see a sort of curb in that pic. My best guess is, that that graffiti shot is taken @ some parkinglot, since i haven't found such curbs in that area during my strolling.
I'm not giving up and will search further ( im almost disguested with my own curiousity ), maybe you want to chaparrone me? lol

:seeya:

deca
07-08-2012, 11:12 AM
Not sure where to post this.

I am not terribly familiar with this case so please forgive me if I come off like a dunce.

So when Luka went down to Arizona, does anyone know how he got down there? Did he fly or drive?

There was a murder in Oregon (off the I-5 freeway which runs N and S through the US) in Nov 2011 where a person was nearly decapitated. There were no clues as to who could have committed this murder. The victim didn't have any kind of risky lifestyle: he was just walking home from work. LE isn't sure or hasn't released the murder weapon but talk is that it might have been a sword or similar tool.

The reason I think it is a stretch that it was Luka is that there is no indication that he was in OR, and he seemed to like to publicize what he did on the internet.

So I guess what I am trying to ask you all, what to do think about this possibility of this? TIA

Haunted82
07-08-2012, 12:18 PM
Not sure where to post this.

I am not terribly familiar with this case so please forgive me if I come off like a dunce.

So when Luka went down to Arizona, does anyone know how he got down there? Did he fly or drive?

There was a murder in Oregon (off the I-5 freeway which runs N and S through the US) in Nov 2011 where a person was nearly decapitated. There were no clues as to who could have committed this murder. The victim didn't have any kind of risky lifestyle: he was just walking home from work. LE isn't sure or hasn't released the murder weapon but talk is that it might have been a sword or similar tool.

The reason I think it is a stretch that it was Luka is that there is no indication that he was in OR, and he seemed to like to publicize what he did on the internet.

So I guess what I am trying to ask you all, what to do think about this possibility of this? TIA

Actually, there's no real evidence, so far, that he was even in Arizona. He was posting on an AZ board, yes, but he posted on tons of boards, claiming to be in Russia, LA, Miami, New York, New Jersey and on and on. Hay MAY have visited some of these places at sometime, or he may not have. A lot of his was to hype his persona as a world traveller model and porn star. We know he was in London in at least November-December 2011. The rest is a big question mark. As for your inquiry about an unsolved OREGON murder, highly unlikely, if you ask me. People have differing opinions on whether the JL murder was his first human, but I truly believe it is, until undeniable hard proof is shown otherwise.

Sunday
07-08-2012, 03:06 PM
Not sure where to post this.

I am not terribly familiar with this case so please forgive me if I come off like a dunce.

So when Luka went down to Arizona, does anyone know how he got down there? Did he fly or drive?

There was a murder in Oregon (off the I-5 freeway which runs N and S through the US) in Nov 2011 where a person was nearly decapitated. There were no clues as to who could have committed this murder. The victim didn't have any kind of risky lifestyle: he was just walking home from work. LE isn't sure or hasn't released the murder weapon but talk is that it might have been a sword or similar tool.

The reason I think it is a stretch that it was Luka is that there is no indication that he was in OR, and he seemed to like to publicize what he did on the internet.

So I guess what I am trying to ask you all, what to do think about this possibility of this? TIA
I think that deep in our minds we want to link Luka to all these crimes because that would mean the perp is now behind bars, and we are all safe(r). Unfortunately, there are way too many creeps out there committing these sick crimes. It's a pretty sad state of affairs.

whiterhino
08-22-2012, 11:32 AM
Okay, I've been lurking here for quite some time and have no idea where to post this...? Does anyone have any info on LRM's whereabouts during 2009? The reason I'm wondering is bc a woman went missing in my neighborhood in 2009 and I can't shake the feeling that LRM is somehow connected.

The woman was apparently a sex trade worker who (as the papers & LE put) "lived a high-risk lifestyle". I remember her because she just kind of appeared in my neighborhood and she stuck out like a sore thumb bc my area is just not shady like that if you kwim. It lasted probably several weeks where I'd see her walking along the sidewalk always at kind of the same section of sidewalk/road. Then, she just kind of left as oddly as she appeared, like nothing.

One day in particular though, I recall walking home up the sidewalk I would typically see her on, and I passed a black Jeep/Jimmy (I think it was a pickup, not 100% but about 80% lol sry). There was this guy sitting in it, and I could feel him kind of watching me, it was the most disturbing feeling I've ever gotten from a guy looking at me. It wasn't a "dirty, undressing you" feeling, it was like I could feel this person imagining me in a scary way.

The reason I even noticed him was bc he slightly resembled my friend, only this guy was scarier and had a "Bert" (from Bert and Ernie) kinda hairdo & eyebrow thing going on (LRM anyone?). (also, looked like the pic of LRM w major brows in a white longsleeve, sitting next to a vase of tulips on a couch)

I felt so uncomfortable that I still recall telling myself to get home like n.o.w, and as I picked up the pace, the mystery woman comes up saying "Oh hey" to the driver of the Jeep, and I can only assume she got in and they left... I didn't turn around to find out.

I also read in one of the threads here, someone posted something about being paranoid about thinking LRM was her neighbor, and that the cops came to investigate but thought she was nuts. She said she thought her & her husband had seen the *same missing woman* help a man and his "nephew" move into the townhouse next to her. That the man who lived there kept odd hours. The newspaper article describes the owner of the townhouse as a late 40's male with white hair, driving a BMW. BUT WHAT ABOUT THE NEPHEW??? Could it have been LRM?

I swear to the everything that is good and right in the world that I have seen LRM here in my town. That pic of him in the red "Russia" jacket w the newsboy cap, is also eerily familiar to me...

I just don't know of any dates to link him to where I live, the pics are never timestamped and the timeline here doesn't outline where he lived in 2009-2010. I'm extremely sorry for the length of this post!!!! I have been holding this all in for months bc I felt I was making false memories but I can't ignore it anymore, esp now with the "Parts Case" in T.O.

For reference, I am in London Ontario which is only 2 hours away from T.O and not far from where LRM grew up. **Missing womans' name: Kathryn Patricia Bordato**

*again, I'm sorry this was so long*

HastingsChi
09-13-2012, 08:15 PM
While it doesn't technically qualify as a crime, it is a crime of casting:
I hate to admit it but I recently watched one of Magnotta's adult entertainment scenes; if I didn't have knowledge of the crimes he Is accused or hadn't viewed the infamous video of Magnotta committing unspeakable acts, based solely on seeing him in this very vanilla porn video I would think he is one of the creepiest people on the planet who is void of emotion.