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No_Stone_Unturned
06-24-2012, 09:02 PM
Use this thread to discuss LRM's abuse of animals. <MODSNIP>

Karmady
06-25-2012, 11:45 PM
Use this thread to discuss LRM's abuse of animals. <MODSNIP>

Just wanted to say that I think these crimes also are horrible and deserve attention, but I, personally, cannot discuss them. To me, they are like crimes against babies and small children. I can't discuss them either, usually, unless the outcome is good. They disturb and haunt me in a way most crimes against adult humans do not. For example, I wish I'd never clicked on the baby matthew case from Kingman, AZ. That's probably the most horrific thing I've ever had the misfortune of stumbling upon. It made me want to drive to that jail and, well, whatever.

Didn't want the lack of posts to be construed as a lack of caring :(

No_Stone_Unturned
06-26-2012, 06:49 AM
I agree with you! In fact, I asked that this thread be created in order for those of us not wanting to read the horrific details about animals be placed here......I also will not be posting much in this thread because I simply cannot take it.

For me, it's the same a crimes against the elderly.......I cannot take it. :maddening:

That said, the fact that LE TRIED to get in touch with LRM three weeks prior to JL's murder was because LE was following up on the animal abuse issues.

I also will not be posting much in this thread so please, don't feel badly! We all understand.......

:jail: :jail: :jail:

Mbshafeena
06-26-2012, 07:16 AM
I am with you on this. I only saw a photo of one of the animal victims of LM and it haunted me for three days. Poor things. :-(

sillybilly
06-26-2012, 01:39 PM
Not that it makes any difference in the scheme of things, but just for the record:

The snake that we have been referring to all along as a "yellow python" is in fact an "albino boa".

I discovered that after one of our members posted that pic of a woman at Manati Park with the snake.

Donyale
06-28-2012, 01:36 PM
IDK if I should post this here, but here it goes:
I heard there is one ucranian girl (BREANN PEARL LANG ) who even met LM and she could be connected to the cat killings. She wrote something like this after the arrest '"i am so sorry u got caught, i love you, i have loved you since we first met"" . They say she could be the girl stroking the python with the kitten in its belly and she could be involved in the drowning video. I've read in one board she was reported to LE and they warned the interpol but I wish the animal rights in her country could keep an eye on her don't let her adopt animals, she admits she kills cats for fun, labelled herself the cakillerfemale and sounds like someone seriously disturbed.
pictures of her with Luka:
http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/catkillerfemale/
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/luka-magnotta-1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-murder-video-105356/index158.html
http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=11631297#page:showThread,11631297,21

sinwonderland
06-28-2012, 01:44 PM
IDK if I should post this here, but here it goes:
I heard there is one ucranian girl (BREANN PEARL LANG ) who even met LM and she could be connected to the cat killings. She wrote something like this after the arrest '"i am so sorry u got caught, i love you, i have loved you since we first met"" . They say she could be the girl stroking the python with the kitten in its belly and she could be involved in the drowning video. I've read in one board she was reported to LE and they warned the interpol but I wish the animal rights in her country could keep an eye on her don't let her adopt animals, she admits she kills cats for fun, labelled herself the cakillerfemale and sounds like someone seriously disturbed.
pictures of her with Luka:
http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/catkillerfemale/
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/luka-magnotta-1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-murder-video-105356/index158.html
http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=11631297#page:showThread,11631297,21

Wow, I'd never heard of any of this (never heard of this chick). Thanks for the info.... very interesting... especially since the other person in the python video has been bugging the hell outta me. Wonder if Baudi knows about this??

fittzi
06-28-2012, 02:19 PM
IDK if I should post this here, but here it goes:
I heard there is one ucranian girl (BREANN PEARL LANG ) who even met LM and she could be connected to the cat killings. She wrote something like this after the arrest '"i am so sorry u got caught, i love you, i have loved you since we first met"" . They say she could be the girl stroking the python with the kitten in its belly and she could be involved in the drowning video. I've read in one board she was reported to LE and they warned the interpol but I wish the animal rights in her country could keep an eye on her don't let her adopt animals, she admits she kills cats for fun, labelled herself the cakillerfemale and sounds like someone seriously disturbed.
pictures of her with Luka:
http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/catkillerfemale/
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/luka-magnotta-1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-murder-video-105356/index158.html
http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=11631297#page:showThread,11631297,21

Shall we add this one to the list? Most disturbing!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X8yJ0RI4ppAJ:www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D10151073018425802%26i d%3D91549100801%26notif_t%3Dfeed_comment+luka+magn otta+breann+pearl+lang&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Donyale
06-28-2012, 02:27 PM
Wow, I'd never heard of any of this (never heard of this chick). Thanks for the info.... very interesting... especially since the other person in the python video has been bugging the hell outta me. Wonder if Baudi knows about this??

IDK, if she does, I hope so! this python video been bothering me so much that I even thought that the video was filmed with the snake from the Manati Park, I've asked about this in a previous thread (9 or 10), Luka visited that place and took pictures with the snake just like other tourists.
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I don't believe the snake owner is innocent, the person knows pretty well what Magnotta did to the cat, is not uncommon to feed snakes with puppies kittens, rabbits, mice. Some snake owners go around adopting stray animals from ads (newspapers, craiglist, people are so eager to get rid of the animals that they don't check much info about the person). I don't know anyone from Ucraine but I hope someone could warn the shelters where that woman live, I don't think she will stop killing and if she is connected to Magnotta, she should be investigated. The authorities should stop this people as soon as they commit animal cruelty, I'm so pissed that they wait until they kill humans to finally do something about it :(

fittzi
06-28-2012, 02:35 PM
IDK, if she does, I hope so! this python video been bothering me so much that I even thought that the video was filmed with the snake from the Manati Park, I've asked about this in a previous thread (9 or 10), Luka visited that place and took pictures with the snake just like other tourists.
Armchair psych profile and personal background - Page 20 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8082231)

I don't believe the snake owner is innocent, the person knows pretty well what Magnotta did to the cat, is not uncommon to feed snakes with puppies kittens, rabbits, mice. Some snake owners go around adopting stray animals from ads (newspapers, craiglist, people are so eager to get rid of the animals that they don't check much info about the person). I don't know anyone from Ucraine but I hope someone could warn the shelters where that woman live, I don't think she will stop killing and if she is connected to Magnotta, she should be investigated. The authorities should stop this people as soon as they commit animal cruelty, I'm so pissed that they wait until they kill humans to finally do something about it :(

BPL is not in the Ukraine, she's in the US in the state of Alaska. If you google her full name, it becomes evident fairly quickly.

Donyale
06-28-2012, 02:38 PM
Shall we add this one to the list? Most disturbing!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X8yJ0RI4ppAJ:www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D10151073018425802%26i d%3D91549100801%26notif_t%3Dfeed_comment+luka+magn otta+breann+pearl+lang&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

insane! thank you so much for this link
these people are so cocky and like to expose themselves because they break the law and yet don't get any punishment, if the authorities took animal cruelty seriously, I doubt this girl would go around saying she is a cat killer. I really hope the police is watching her and investigate her relationship with LM

Donyale
06-28-2012, 02:41 PM
BPL is not in the Ukraine, she's in the US in the state of Alaska. If you google her full name, it becomes evident fairly quickly.

thank you, I thought she was from the Ucraine because the guys from documentingreality and datalounge said she was from that country. Is she is from Alaska, that's even scarier, maybe she met LM many times.

KDOGG
06-28-2012, 02:46 PM
BREANN PEARL LANG

yea, this chick was mentioned on this board several weeks ago. i sent her a private message on FB asking her if she knew where i could find a site/link to watch the 'bathtime lol' video (its the only 1 ive never been able to find.) she replied asking 'whats that?' then when i replied saying it was a luka video, i noticed she had already blocked me. :banghead:

prima.facie
06-28-2012, 03:36 PM
thank you, I thought she was from the Ucraine because the guys from documentingreality and datalounge said she was from that country. Is she is from Alaska, that's even scarier, maybe she met LM many times.

her FB page is open...
she is from ukraine but is in AK going to college...
there are TONS of russians in alaska (i know from personal experience)....
according to her FB she just spent hundreds of dollars on a new BIRD....

prima.facie
06-28-2012, 03:51 PM
insane! thank you so much for this link
these people are so cocky and like to expose themselves because they break the law and yet don't get any punishment, if the authorities took animal cruelty seriously, I doubt this girl would go around saying she is a cat killer. I really hope the police is watching her and investigate her relationship with LM

i dont think they are cocky...i just think they are amongst the world of psychopaths that live amongst us....

there are pics of her in one of LMs many photo albums....

thing is...LM is not unique. he just got caught....we should be worried about all the other luka's out there getting away with all their sick fantasies....we should hope they video what they do and put it out there on the web so they can get caught....

that girl though...she is one i cant figure out. i looked at her FB profile for a long time - way back when she was brought up - and cant figure her out. she obvious is close to LM (some thought he had zero friends...........not true)....and she has some odd interests...but then some super normal ones....she even "liked" the group: cat petting. ?? ETA: i checked out the cat petting group...me thinks its not an animal lovers group.... hmm

Mbshafeena
06-28-2012, 06:34 PM
Perhaps she is the one that owns the snake?

http://alaskaslist.com/1/posts/13_Pets/78_Reptiles/

Would have to go back and see if perhaps she sold a snake from the time the vid was taken and now.

Scientific
06-28-2012, 07:26 PM
Wonder if this is describing the same Breann :

http://www.listown.com/rants-and-raves/kenai/201101/1392.htm


Shall we add this one to the list? Most disturbing!

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X8yJ0RI4ppAJ:www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D10151073018425802%26i d%3D91549100801%26notif_t%3Dfeed_comment+luka+magn otta+breann+pearl+lang&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Jujercu
06-28-2012, 09:40 PM
IDK if I should post this here, but here it goes:
I heard there is one ucranian girl (BREANN PEARL LANG ) who even met LM and she could be connected to the cat killings. She wrote something like this after the arrest '"i am so sorry u got caught, i love you, i have loved you since we first met"" . They say she could be the girl stroking the python with the kitten in its belly and she could be involved in the drowning video. I've read in one board she was reported to LE and they warned the interpol but I wish the animal rights in her country could keep an eye on her don't let her adopt animals, she admits she kills cats for fun, labelled herself the cakillerfemale and sounds like someone seriously disturbed.
pictures of her with Luka:
http://s1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj483/catkillerfemale/
http://www.documentingreality.com/forum/f166/luka-magnotta-1-lunatic-1-ice-pick-murder-video-105356/index158.html
http://www.datalounge.com/cgi-bin/iowa/ajax.html?t=11631297#page:showThread,11631297,21

We talked about this chick back around the 7 th thread? I looked into her ...she seems more like she wants everyone to think she is Lukas BFF. Can anyone identify luka in any of those pics she posted. I couldn't see some of them but the ones I saw could have been anyone. IMO

Haunted82
06-28-2012, 11:09 PM
We talked about this chick back around the 7 th thread? I looked into her ...she seems more like she wants everyone to think she is Lukas BFF. Can anyone identify luka in any of those pics she posted. I couldn't see some of them but the ones I saw could have been anyone. IMO

I agree. There's no way to confirm that's Luka in those pics from those links.
I haven't seen any other pics that are more convincing either.

Sunday
06-29-2012, 01:09 AM
Wonder if this is describing the same Breann :

http://www.listown.com/rants-and-raves/kenai/201101/1392.htm
Umm, of course it is.

prima.facie
06-29-2012, 01:52 AM
I agree. There's no way to confirm that's Luka in those pics from those links.
I haven't seen any other pics that are more convincing either.

http://m455.photobucket.com/albumview/albums/coldasice19/P1000192.jpg.html?o=24&newest=1

?

hard to tell...

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 07:15 AM
Wow, I'd never heard of any of this (never heard of this chick). Thanks for the info.... very interesting... especially since the other person in the python video has been bugging the hell outta me. Wonder if Baudi knows about this??

Yeah I dont think she is anyone. And no, no luka in any of those pictures.

My opinion of course.

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 07:21 AM
y where i could find a site/link to watch the 'bathtime lol' video (its the only 1 ive never been able to find.)

Sent you a PM. This one is the most disturbing kitten video, so watch with caution. We're still looking for that stupid apartment. Think he was there from June(ish) - end of November 2011 and this video was filmed in August. So, we still have all the videos.

Mbshafeena
06-29-2012, 10:06 AM
Sent you a PM. This one is the most disturbing kitten video, so watch with caution. We're still looking for that stupid apartment. Think he was there from June(ish) - end of November 2011 and this video was filmed in August. So, we still have all the videos.

I understand that he had 1 or 2 other apartments in Montreal before this final one where Jun Lin was murdered. It apparently was close to where Jun Lin worked (convenience store) and was also fully furnished. It would be nice to be able to get a pic or if someone lives around that area, if they could go and see what kind of sofa are in those units. In the pics with the boa the sofa is brown. It might help us identify if this happened in Montreal.

We know that he was in England mid December 2011, then he rented that other apartment in Montreal for 2 months so lets say till end of February and in March he rented the apartment in Montreal where he murdered Jun Lin.

Now having said that he was escorted out of his accommodation by the police in England. We have no idea how much money he owed, had he been there a month or two? There has to be a way to find out.

Mbshafeena
06-29-2012, 10:47 AM
http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/87fea63daa/luka-magnotta-serial-cat-killer-hunted

In the article it mentions L.A. and Arizona prior to him arriving in England. What I find confusing is didn't someone say he was in the Hollywood area in mid February 2012? and yet the 1st Landlord in Montreal said he only stayed two months and was gone mid. Feb.

Okay so that would make it the following

Arizona/California prior to December 2011
December 2011 - England
December/January 2012 Montreal
Feb. 2nd week - L.A.
March 1 - Montreal (apt. where Jun Lin was murdered)

Could the snake and kitten and the drowning have been filmed in L.A.? That snake could be owned by someone in the porn industry in L.A. or a stripper and used in his/her act?

OEJ
06-29-2012, 12:41 PM
We talked about this chick back around the 7 th thread? I looked into her ...she seems more like she wants everyone to think she is Lukas BFF. Can anyone identify luka in any of those pics she posted. I couldn't see some of them but the ones I saw could have been anyone. IMO

None of the pictures are identifiable. I don't think she knew him at all.

Haunted82
06-29-2012, 01:24 PM
http://www.funnyordie.com/articles/87fea63daa/luka-magnotta-serial-cat-killer-hunted

In the article it mentions L.A. and Arizona prior to him arriving in England. What I find confusing is didn't someone say he was in the Hollywood area in mid February 2012? and yet the 1st Landlord in Montreal said he only stayed two months and was gone mid. Feb.

Okay so that would make it the following

Arizona/California prior to December 2011
December 2011 - England
December/January 2012 Montreal
Feb. 2nd week - L.A.
March 1 - Montreal (apt. where Jun Lin was murdered)

Could the snake and kitten and the drowning have been filmed in L.A.? That snake could be owned by someone in the porn industry in L.A. or a stripper and used in his/her act?

Couple of adjustments... remember, he definitely was in Montreal at 695 Rue Charlevoix on May 1 2011 as that is when the Maclean's photographer met and did the photoshoot. So far, to my knowledge, we haven't been able to nail down an exact date of when he left that unit. He was at the other apartment in the same area January to the end of Feburary 2012, this is confirmed by the recent article where the landlord mentioned getting the phonecall from toronto police in Mid March 2012 and they had "missed him by two weeks" .

I am now of the belief Montreal was the 'homebase' for at least a good year and a bit from minimum Spring 2011 onwards. As for the LA, Arizona and wherever else he's supposedly been, I think these were short term trips / stays, while he kept a cheap furnished place in Montreal he could return to from time to time. During those trips, he could turn tricks and do whatever else to finance it. It would be important to try and nail down genuine contacts in these towns while he was there. What was he doing in Arizona? Was he even there in person, or just posting on an AZ board? Some of these cities and trips I think were illusions. It was pointed out he was not the Eric Newman who got a traffic ticket in AZ at a time he was possibly in that area. Besides, any ticket would be in the name LRM as that is his legal name since 2006. If the Salta lawyer emails are genuine, the HEAT had been on him since January 2011 regarding the animal cruelty, so I think he was bouncing around the continent in a downward spiral.

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 01:54 PM
I dont believe he was Arizona at all, ever.

The Video of the kitten drowning was filmed in August 2011 and was filmed in the same apartment that the Python video's were filmed in. The floorboard heaters are like no sort of heaters Ive ever seen in this area (where I live). We also have pictures of him from April 2011 standing at McGill University and the confirmation from the Photographer in May of 2011 that he was in Montreal.

Silverlona
07-06-2012, 03:02 PM
>Baudi Moovan

I know I saw a picture of a the board heater (In the snake vid) and it said something like: "This is what you should look for."
I have tried to find it again, I think it was on abprojects, but I can't find it. Can you help with a link?

Thank you!

Donyale
07-06-2012, 07:07 PM
On another thread (online personae) another poster here mentioned that Luka requested some photoshop services in some forum, he used the username "littlenemo1". Two people respond, one of them also responds back that he has finished. The post is dated July 28th 2011.
http://www.photoshopforums.com/post78010.html#78010
Anyway, I thought it is interesting that the person who answered his request and said that he finished the job is from Mesa, Arizona. We know Luka said he was in Arizona for a while, at least he posted with cutelittlenemo1 claiming that location, there is no proof he was there but still... strange... I wonder what he requested to be photoshopped. It would be interesting to investigate or ask that person.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=177273&page=2

Also his last picture in the Karla Homolka forum was this one:
http://prada987.watchingkarlahomolka.yuku.com/
I hope that picture is just photoshop... I might be a bit paranoid but don't you think it is strange that the cat and snake are close to weight lifting gym equipment? I know it is not the same type but LM does have a picture of him lifting weight... Also he wrote that ripoff report about a personal trainer Nader who works at some gym studio in toronto. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5grq4lC9M1ry63dxo1_1280.jpg
Weird. Anyway, I really hope we get some answers in the future! my deepest respect and admiration to all the animal rights groups who worked so hard gathering evidence information about this lunatic. You guys are awesome!


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Silverlona
07-10-2012, 08:57 AM
This is the couch/sofa in the apartment where LRM drowned the cat and feed another one ta a snake.
It's for sale in "The Brick" and "United Furniture Warehouse" stores.

http://www.ufw.com/product.php?product=2300SK-S&category=sofas

http://www.ufw.com/product.php?product=2300SK-S&category=sofas

Wondergirl
07-10-2012, 05:02 PM
This is over the top.

Those animal activists did everything they could possible do try and get LM, WOW.

Luka Magnotta was target of porn star sting plot

CAUTION: GRAPHIC CONTENT

The Canadian Press

Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:26 PM ET

Last Updated: Jul 10, 2012 4:49 PM ET




Twin Playboy bunnies and an animal-rights group tried to enlist one of the world's biggest porn stars last year to help catch Luka Rocco Magnotta.

Ron Jeremy said he was asked to lure Magnotta, a small-time Canadian porn actor, to Los Angeles with a phoney job offer to appear in an X-rated flick.

The ploy was concocted more than a year before Magnotta became a murder suspect in the gruesome death of Montreal student Jun Lin.
Instead of meeting a legend who's cavorted for the camera in more than 2,000 adult films, Magnotta was to be apprehended by a hard-nosed group of animal-rights activists.

Jeremy, however, got cold feet and the sting operation never moved ahead.

At the time, animal-rights advocates had alleged that Magnotta killed kittens and posted videos of the deeds on the Internet — accusations he has publicly denied.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/story/2012/07/10/ron-jeremy-luka-magnotta.html

Haunted82
07-10-2012, 06:21 PM
This is over the top.

Those animal activists did everything they could possible do try and get LM, WOW.

Luka Magnotta was target of porn star sting plot

CAUTION: GRAPHIC CONTENT

The Canadian Press

Posted: Jul 10, 2012 4:26 PM ET

Last Updated: Jul 10, 2012 4:49 PM ET

I hate to rain on the article's parade, and the groups work in general is admirable ... but ... there has to be an ACTIVE warrant before anyone (in the U.S and most everywhere else) can start playing Dog The Bounty Hunter. As far as I know there was no actual WARRANT in any country for him. There was always confusion about where the videos were produced / uploaded and because the laws are vague and weak in some cases, there was never enough to pin him to it, yet.
They were working on it, including Toronto Police, apparently, by the phone calls trying to locate him in Montreal. I think that explained why he was moving around so much in that last year and a bit, the heat was on. But, what did they plan to do, mob him and lynch him in the street? You're not allowed to take the law into your own hands, even in emotional plights such as that, without SOLID proof. Apparently, the proof wasn't LEGALLY airtight or would have been picked up for at least questioning long before that. You can't even hold someone unlawfully until police arrives, unless there is an active warrant. He was using his real legal name on all his ID and on his applications where he lived, so it shouldn't have been that hard to track him down had they finally felt they had enough evidence to warrant a questioning or arrest.

That scheme, while very hollywood and entertaining in nature, could have backfired big-time on them. And I'm not talking about him slaughtering them all on scene. I'm talking about him suing the pants off all of them, playing the victim and pushing his fame through the roof. That would have been a dream scenario for him to continue to defend his self-alleged innocence while at the same time promoting with sock puppets how he was arrested and what an evil person he is.

pippirose
07-10-2012, 06:45 PM
The Rescue Ink/Ron Jeremy scheme--are you kidding me? While I in no way have any sympathy for LM, and he deserves to be locked up for a long time, vigilantism isn't the answer.
I don't see how luring him to the U.S. would have been legal, as the kitten killings were most likely done in Canada.
What a can of worms that would have opened up!
*That* is the kind of thing that hurts "real" (legitimate) animal rescue operations. Just like the whole fiasco with the other animal rights group that pretended to be LM online.

bodhi93
07-11-2012, 10:10 AM
WOW!!! I wonder who else will try to use this case to get their name in the spotlight... :notgood:

OEJ
07-11-2012, 05:39 PM
If there had been a real chance of LM being arrested through this scheme, I would have done it in a heart beat.

sinwonderland
07-11-2012, 07:29 PM
If there had been a real chance of LM being arrested through this scheme, I would have done it in a heart beat.

But even if they had arrested him, he'd be out in no time. And I doubt a year or so in jail would deter him from doing bad things. Actually he'd probably just learn to be a better criminal.

Mbshafeena
07-13-2012, 08:25 PM
Well Beavisbutthead put on his YouTube account today saying he can prove the kitten videos aren't real. I am waiting for him to post his supposed proof but I won't hold my breath on that one. What I did find out waiting, for this proof to appear, is that Beavisbutthead also goes under the name of Mattypantaloons and I also now know his real name ... Hey Matt E.... I won't post your last name for privacy sake but you live also on Decarie, real close to where LM lived, hence the reason you took a video of his apartment and lobby. You should be careful when doing a video when there are mirrors in the lobby. Gives away your identity.

Sigh Sister
07-14-2012, 06:22 AM
Well Beavisbutthead put on his YouTube account today saying he can prove the kitten videos aren't real. I am waiting for him to post his supposed proof but I won't hold my breath on that one. What I did find out waiting, for this proof to appear, is that Beavisbutthead also goes under the name of Mattypantaloons and I also now know his real name ... Hey Matt E.... I won't post your last name for privacy sake but you live also on Decarie, real close to where LM lived, hence the reason you took a video of his apartment and lobby. You should be careful when doing a video when there are mirrors in the lobby. Gives away your identity.

I believe BB lives in the states, specifically Florida, and he has several sock puppet accounts, but I didin't think mattypantaloons was one of them. BB's style of writing is very recognizable and matty's doesn't seem to match. I also believe that BB is in his mid to late 40's and Matty looks much younger to me. Google stldetrl, stldtrl, and jdohe. These, IMO, are all BB.

How did you come to the conclusion that BB is Matty?

Mbshafeena
07-14-2012, 08:38 AM
Both have vids on their YouTube site saying they took the vid of the apartment and lobby where ML lived. Both were captured in the mirrors in the lobby and they are the same person. I did a search on Mattypantaloons in pics on google and it is the same person I saw in each. Did a search for addy in Montreal and found this individual resides EXTREMELY close to that apartment. Also the vid Beavis posted of the lobby was uploaded two days before Mattypantaloons did.

Haunted82
07-14-2012, 09:15 AM
Both have vids on their YouTube site saying they took the vid of the apartment and lobby where ML lived. Both were captured in the mirrors in the lobby and they are the same person. I did a search on Mattypantaloons in pics on google and it is the same person I saw in each. Did a search for addy in Montreal and found this individual resides EXTREMELY close to that apartment. Also the vid Beavis posted of the lobby was uploaded two days before Mattypantaloons did.

Actually.... the "lukaApt208" video by BB was posted on Jun 3 whereas Mattypantaloons posted his videos of the apartment building and area on May 31, a mere 2 days after everything with the police went down there. So BB lifted that clip and overdubbed the Suzanne Vega song over it. I remember seeing the Mattp ones first , and Mattp even commented on BB's clip that he had stole it with this comment "It is indeed stolen. The originals are on my account, I took them 2 days after they found the body."

Mbshafeena
07-14-2012, 09:22 AM
http://m.youtube.com/user/Mattypantaloons?client=mv-google

I am just going through everything again. Mattypantaloons is for sure the individual I named as Matty E.... Who resides at 57** Decarie. I will go back and find the other info

OEJ
07-14-2012, 10:04 AM
Both have vids on their YouTube site saying they took the vid of the apartment and lobby where ML lived. Both were captured in the mirrors in the lobby and they are the same person. I did a search on Mattypantaloons in pics on google and it is the same person I saw in each. Did a search for addy in Montreal and found this individual resides EXTREMELY close to that apartment. Also the vid Beavis posted of the lobby was uploaded two days before Mattypantaloons did.

Mattypantaloons wrote on his blog that Beavisbutthead (what a name) used parts of Matty's videos to make his own.

zvzvzv
07-14-2012, 03:12 PM
I believe BB lives in the states, specifically Florida, and he has several sock puppet accounts, but I didin't think mattypantaloons was one of them. BB's style of writing is very recognizable and matty's doesn't seem to match. I also believe that BB is in his mid to late 40's and Matty looks much younger to me. Google stldetrl, stldtrl, and jdohe. These, IMO, are all BB.

How did you come to the conclusion that BB is Matty?

i agree with Sigh Sister.
a few days ago there was a video on youtube called who is beavis butthead?
half of the comments were just people flaming eachother + repostings from a psychiatry messageboard
but a few comments outlined BB's
connection to many usernames that trolled various sites + identified him as
someone involved with internet harassment for $$$.
the comments are gone now.
the only possible LM connections i read, written by BB himself were;
BB is an advocate for male webcam models
BB had an e-friend in russia who went missing at the same time LM was convicted of fraud.
keeping in mind he was paid to lie on the internet, who knows if anything he says
is true or even his actual opinion.

MattyPantaloons explained himself a while ago, totally different person.
this guy in florida is likely just one of many weirdo internet attention seeking vandals,
IMO if he actually knew LM he would have been bragging about it.

Karmady
07-14-2012, 04:32 PM
http://m.youtube.com/user/Mattypantaloons?client=mv-google

I am just going through everything again. Mattypantaloons is for sure the individual I named as Matty E.... Who resides at 57** Decarie. I will go back and find the other info

matty is a local who filmed the inside of lm's apt building shortly after the murder. In his original video, there is a shot where you can see the filmer (matty) in a mirror. Someone (bb, iirc) re-posted part of the video, including the shot of matty. Bb's point was to suggest that bb (not matty) was the filmer and therefore, based on the image in the mirror,that bb was not lm. This was at the time many people were still thinking they were one and the same.

At least that's my recollection of it. There are posts here about it under my user name and others.

Sorry if you knew this already. I haven't followed the conversation. Just popped in and saw the reference.

eta: I see you do know all about about it...nevah mind :)

claudicici
07-16-2012, 04:24 AM
..there are people commenting that Beavisbutthead is manny....

AudreyRose
07-19-2012, 04:13 PM
..there are people commenting that Beavisbutthead is manny....

Been doing some digging today. Figured I'd post this here since you folks have been discussing BB (and i'm not even sure which category this would fall under). There is a channel on YouTube "holelottamagnotta". This user had been commenting on a video called "Who is Beavis Butthead", but the owner of the video recently disabled commenting on the video. "holelottamagnotta's" comments are still visible on his channel page though. One of them says the following:

"I did not believe that at all till I saw the 'missing Russian' post was June 2005. If it's just a coincidence that this was the time Magnotta was just convicted & complying with his probation order to stay off computers, or they did 'know eachother' Luka was lying to him about being Russian."

He's referring to a post made on the internet by a user named jdohe200, where the poster expresses concern for an "e-friend" who mysteriously disappeared in June of 2005. This user is convinced jdohe200 is BB (the style of writing is very similar for both accounts). I found this to be pretty interesting. We know LM frequently claimed to be Russian. Could this explain the link (if there is one) between BB & LM? Is this how BB obtained that "facial tic" video?

Secondly, this "holelottamagnotta" user has also left clear clues of who he/she claims BB is. I won't publish the name here because of privacy issues, but the individual is a convicted felon who has a long history of causing harassment on the internet. If you visit the channel I know you guys will certainly be able to connect the dots yourselves.

Scientific
07-19-2012, 05:00 PM
Sorry, for some reason I can not follow your post entirely. Though I understand separate parts of it, I couldn't see how the parts relate as a whole. It could be because I'm getting over an illness. When I looked up that username on youtube I couldn't find the comments you speak of. Maybe they've now been deleted.


Been doing some digging today. Figured I'd post this here since you folks have been discussing BB (and i'm not even sure which category this would fall under). There is a channel on YouTube "holelottamagnotta". This user had been commenting on a video called "Who is Beavis Butthead", but the owner of the video recently disabled commenting on the video. "holelottamagnotta's" comments are still visible on his channel page though. One of them says the following:

"I did not believe that at all till I saw the 'missing Russian' post was June 2005. If it's just a coincidence that this was the time Magnotta was just convicted & complying with his probation order to stay off computers, or they did 'know eachother' Luka was lying to him about being Russian."

He's referring to a post made on the internet by a user named jdohe200, where the poster expresses concern for an "e-friend" who mysteriously disappeared in June of 2005. This user is convinced jdohe200 is BB (the style of writing is very similar for both accounts). I found this to be pretty interesting. We know LM frequently claimed to be Russian. Could this explain the link (if there is one) between BB & LM? Is this how BB obtained that "facial tic" video?

Secondly, this "holelottamagnotta" user has also left clear clues of who he/she claims BB is. I won't publish the name here because of privacy issues, but the individual is a convicted felon who has a long history of causing harassment on the internet. If you visit the channel I know you guys will certainly be able to connect the dots yourselves.

zvzvzv
07-19-2012, 05:49 PM
Sorry, for some reason I can not follow your post entirely. Though I understand separate parts of it, I couldn't see how the parts relate as a whole. It could be because I'm getting over an illness. When I looked up that username on youtube I couldn't find the comments you speak of. Maybe they've now been deleted.

on post #44 on this thread i outlined the info too.
to sum it up, BB is jdohe2002@yahoo.com.
search that email and you see the possible connection.

AudreyRose
07-19-2012, 07:02 PM
Sorry, for some reason I can not follow your post entirely. Though I understand separate parts of it, I couldn't see how the parts relate as a whole. It could be because I'm getting over an illness. When I looked up that username on youtube I couldn't find the comments you speak of. Maybe they've now been deleted.

Sorry, I was afraid that would sound jumbled. The comment was there earlier today, but it was kind of far down on the "holelottamagnotta" channel page. I didn't realize zvzvz had already posted about this (it's hard to follow everything sometimes!). His/her posts likely make more sense! :blushing:

AudreyRose
07-20-2012, 09:16 AM
Ah yes, I was just on the "Holelottamagnotta" channel and all activity has been erased. Every last bit of it. I guess I'm not that surprised though, since someone left a comment on the channel that says "Watch your back". I REALLY need to start taking screenshots of things. Argh.

You can Google "Ragnar Suomi" to find the individual this "holelottamagnotta" says is BB. I'm not implying they're definitely the same person, but his online posts do sound very similar, style wise, to the ones made on YT by BB.

Amandes
07-23-2012, 05:48 AM
I thought I should post this here, it's not about Luka Magnotta, but maybe someone who wants to copy him?

Warning: GRAPHIC

http://serbiananimalsvoice.wordpress.com/2012/07/20/russia-the-next-luca-magnotta-puppy-killer-posts-act-on-social-media-site/

Fairy
11-06-2014, 02:29 AM
I was wondering if anyone has any information on whether LM will ever face charges for his crimes against animals? Especially since we now know that poor puppy from the murder video didn't survive.

Rayemonde
11-07-2014, 04:56 AM
And something else has come out in the trial - LM told his psychiatrists that "Manny" made him have sex with animals on video. I wonder if these videos actually exist. I think I'd rather not know :(

claudicici
11-07-2014, 04:59 AM
...and even if no one else was involved with the Jun Lin killing ,it seems that there was another person involved with the animal videos,I wished they would go after that person as well...

Little Jedi
11-07-2014, 12:32 PM
And something else has come out in the trial - LM told his psychiatrists that *"Manny" made him have sex with animals on video.* I wonder if these videos actually exist. I think I'd rather not know :(

Oooh Good Point Rayemonde :thumb:

I almost forgotten about this little gem coming out !

:idea: Do you think it could've been with 'the monkey' ?? :lol:

~ Although I rather much doubt it's true ~

Rayemonde
11-07-2014, 05:03 PM
I was wondering if anyone has any information on whether LM will ever face charges for his crimes against animals? Especially since we now know that poor puppy from the murder video didn't survive.

If I recall correctly, the police didn't even bother to autopsy the dead puppy that they found in the bin, so it doesn't sound like they ever intend on charging LM with animal cruelty. It's a damn shame that animal abuse is not taken more seriously, not only for then animals themselves but because if LM had been locked up and given a long sentence for killing the kittens then JL would still be alive today.

ETA I just went back through the courtroom tweets and they just say that the puppy was not autopsied and had no apparent injuries

Morbida
11-08-2014, 02:00 AM
If I recall correctly, the police didn't even bother to autopsy the dead puppy that they found in the bin, so it doesn't sound like they ever intend on charging LM with animal cruelty. It's a damn shame that animal abuse is not taken more seriously, not only for then animals themselves but because if LM had been locked up and given a long sentence for killing the kittens then JL would still be alive today.

ETA I just went back through the courtroom tweets and they just say that the puppy was not autopsied and had no apparent injuries

Considering what the puppy ate (:sick:), I don't really understand why they didn't at least check the stomach contents. You'd think that would be relevant to the evidence.

Little Jedi
11-08-2014, 08:12 AM
...and even if no one else was involved with the Jun Lin killing ,it seems that there was another person involved with the animal videos,I wished they would go after that person as well...

Oh so do I, but sadly I doubt they will :rage:

Fairy
11-08-2014, 05:17 PM
...and even if no one else was involved with the Jun Lin killing ,it seems that there was another person involved with the animal videos,I wished they would go after that person as well...

YES! The mystery hands have distinctive jewellery and wedding/engagement rings (video not graphic, just hands petting a snake):


http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dVIVI5LQ4Tw

I wouldn't have thought too many people would have a snake of this size as a pet either (assuming the hands belong to the owner). It's also supposed to have been filmed in the UK. Hopefully someone will see it and be able to recognise the snake/person at some point.

Fairy
11-08-2014, 06:48 PM
If I recall correctly, the police didn't even bother to autopsy the dead puppy that they found in the bin, so it doesn't sound like they ever intend on charging LM with animal cruelty. It's a damn shame that animal abuse is not taken more seriously, not only for then animals themselves but because if LM had been locked up and given a long sentence for killing the kittens then JL would still be alive today.

ETA I just went back through the courtroom tweets and they just say that the puppy was not autopsied and had no apparent injuries

I found an evidence picture of the deceased puppy and it appeared to have some material tied around it's neck. I was wondering if it was possibly asphyxiated. It was barely mentioned during the trial. It's surprising they have no cause of death for the poor little thing.

WARNING! GRAPHIC AND VERY UPSETTING IMAGE IN LINK.
EVIDENCE PICTURE OF DECEASED PUPPY:
http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/cms/binary/10250135.jpg?size=640x420

Members of the animal groups who were chasing him for over a year would have made good witnesses at the trial.

Rayemonde
11-11-2014, 06:16 PM
suemontgomery ‏@MontgomerySue 3m3 minutes ago
After the murder, #magnotta stayed up for at least 24 hours. He drowned his puppy because something was controlling him

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD 52s52 seconds ago
#Magnotta had bought a little dog.

Shuyee Lee ‏@sleeCJAD 2m2 minutes ago
Killed his dog: "weird energy" that made him drown dog.Was going to bring dog to France but he was leaving quicker than planned. #Magnotta

Maybe the puppy was a secret government agent too? :gaah:

Rayemonde
11-11-2014, 06:19 PM
http://www.torontosun.com/2014/11/11/magnotta-admitted-to-cat-killings-15-months-before-killing-jun-lin-trial-hears


The Toronto porn actor denied in a December 2011 media interview that he was behind the Internet videos showing cats being suffocated.

But ten months earlier, he confessed to the cat killings in an e-mail to Toronto criminal lawyer Craig Penney.

Magnotta told Penney he killed the animals in New York City in December 2010. . .
"(Magnotta) said he was forced to do it on orders from a client," Allard continued. "Mr. Magnotta said...the client threatened to kill him if he didn't kill the cats. He mentioned that the client's name was Manny [Manuel] Lopez."
The name Manny has come up several times at trial but it's not clear if he exists.

Fairy
11-12-2014, 04:57 AM
TBH, I'm surprised he didn't film and upload the murder of the puppy. Or at least boast about it in third person in his final postings.

So the woman from the video may be the "Rebecca" mentioned here http://www.cjad.com/cjad-news/2014/11/11/magnotta-killed-cats-made-up-rumour-he-dated-karla-homolka:


Allard testified that when Magnotta was working as an escort in Montreal in 2011, he met a woman called Rebecca at around Christmas time. Allard said Magnotta told her the woman had asked him to take care of her pet python. Magnotta had two cats at the time and told Allard that he gave one to the python, drowned the other one and made a video of it all.

Not sure if "Manny" told him to kill these cats too.

LM seemed quite capable of hiding from the animal groups, then fleeing the country and attempting to start a new life with fake IDs after the murder of JL. It's a shame he didn't just put the same efforts towards getting away from this "Manny" character.

Rayemonde
11-22-2014, 07:23 PM
64047

Do you guys think this could be the same person? On the left, someone LM was apparently with around the time of the snake incident in 2011 (which is NOT to say that they were involved in the cruelty or even knew anything about it). On the right, a guy I found online who keeps snakes including one that looks like the one in the video (which is a common type of snake to keep, lots of people have them). Picture on right dated 2010.

Little Jedi
11-22-2014, 07:57 PM
:thumb: Yes !

The ear looks pretty much the same shape/size.
Eyebrows, nose, mouth as well as overall shape of face, are all very close.
Considering pic. quality I'd have to lean towards it being the same guy.

Well Done Rayemonde :sleuth: :goldstar:

Rayemonde
11-23-2014, 11:05 AM
Well, he lives in Illinois, but I can't find anything at all linking him to LM so it may just be a coincidence that he looks like the guy in the picture.

I don't even know that the guy in the picture was really with LM around the time of the snake feeding incident except that his picture is on this site that i'm pretty sure LM set up - don't worry, non-graphic link:

http://luka-magnotta-python-snake-evil.blogspot.com/

There's a pic of LM with a girl on there too - could she be the girl from the video? But then there are several pictures of LM with Neider Eid too, which I think were taken years before the snake incident and I think LM just put them there to try and get NE in trouble. He seems to have hated him for years, he even posted a ripoff report about him on the day of JL's murder.

So these pictures of people with LM could really have been taken at any time, and he could have just put them on the snake site to confuse people.

STANDREID
11-23-2014, 11:32 AM
When I first saw this thread, I thought it was about cases where animals were used as aids to crime, like getaway horses, or crimes where animals were actually used as murder weapons but I guess I was wrong.

It is an interesting topic though. I believe that some claim that the Beast of Gevaudan in 1760s France was actually a hyena that had been trained to kill humans by some unknown person. There was also Juana Bormann who, as mistress of a pack German shepherds, used the dogs to murder inmates in various Nazi concentration camps. She was hanged for crimes against humanity in December of 1945.

Rayemonde
11-23-2014, 01:41 PM
Haha Stanreid :p This thread is in the Luka Magnotta forum, and it's about LM's crimes towards animals. Before he murdered and dismembered a human being, he liked to kill kittens.

Rayemonde
11-24-2014, 11:38 AM
I googled cheap apartment Monreal, and they do have those kind of heaters there. Are there any still pictures from the drowning video, to help identify the bathroom?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bwalk.com%2FService s%2FGetWebFile%2F%253FBinaryFileNo%253D25638&imgrefurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bwalk.com%2Fen-CA%2FRent%2FDetails%2FQu%25C3%25A9bec%2FQu%25C3%25 A9bec%2FPlace-Chamonix%2F&h=300&w=360&tbnid=91VFy3wuXrORAM%3A&zoom=1&docid=rKZx40LsTbPTGM&ei=FUxzVN7oIpHqaPGGgOAD&tbm=isch&ved=0CEsQMyhDMEM4rAI&iact=rc&uact=3&dur=759&page=26&start=367&ndsp=15

Rayemonde
11-24-2014, 11:43 AM
64123

Baseboard heater in snake video.

Ausgirl
11-24-2014, 01:21 PM
When I first saw this thread, I thought it was about cases where animals were used as aids to crime, like getaway horses

I want a getaway horse! I want one now!


I've been doing a LOT of research on sadistic serial/child killers lately, and it's startling how many have a very early history of animal abuse -- not just small acts of cruelty either, the really horrific stuff. That sort of cruelty is a definite precursor to human victims.

Gotta wonder how old Magnotta was, when he started with the animals..

Rayemonde
11-26-2014, 03:51 PM
I've found a few snakes in the right area, but most of their keepers have a lot of reptiles in a dedicated room of their house and seem like responsible people.
Note the heater, like the one in the video.
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Rayemonde
12-03-2014, 04:59 PM
Mr. Newman [Magnotta's father] said that Mr. Magnotta never mistreated any animals or pets when he visited his paternal grandparents’ home
Mr. Newman reported that Mr. Magnotta would sometimes have exotic pets such as spiders, a tarantula, a scorpion and a boa constrictor. He would “be gentle with them.” When asked, Mr. Newman said that the last pet his son owned was a white boa constrictor. He saw it during his last visit to his son in Montreal and was able to hold it. Mr. Magnotta did not appear afraid of it and held it himself.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/246900421/Psychiatric-assessment-of-Magnotta

Rayemonde
12-03-2014, 05:19 PM
I asked Mr. Magnotta about the deceased puppy that was found in one of the garbage bags. He commented that this question was distressing to him because, “that doesn’t feel like me, I don’t know why I would have done that.” After a long pause and consideration he said, “I have a memory of seeing it inside the sink but I don’t remember doing it or why.”
https://www.scribd.com/doc/246900421/Psychiatric-assessment-of-Magnotta