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ynotdivein
06-28-2012, 06:25 PM
This thread is for sleuthing and discussion of the many online personae of Eric Clinton Newman a.k.a. "Luka Magnotta."



Information about his numerous online personae was scattered through the earlier General Discussion threads before this case became a forum. Here is a link to those General Discussion threads.



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randomdiet
06-29-2012, 02:14 AM
I think this article goes here. I apologize it is not, please delete it or move it to more appropriate thread @@

http://metronews.ca/news/saskatoon/277753/magnotta-fan-sorry-for-any-offence/

The news article from 2 days ago features the former administrator of one of the larger LM fanbase on Facebook apologizing. She made news about 7 days ago for publicly praising LM. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/21/luka-rocco-magnotta-facebook/

What's interesting from her apology news article is that it shows that LM had friends of real people (non sock puppets) online, as Ms. St. Denis is one and that they maintained communication up to, according to the former administrator, right before he was apprehended in Germany.

I think the article shows some interesting aspect of how LM influences people.

katriana
06-29-2012, 05:34 AM
http://www.abproject.org/docs/luka_magnotta_-_the_ultimate_timeline_of_events.txthttp://

i found this timeline of luka and apologize if it is already posted, and it has an extensive list of all his online persona's...my personal feeling is he planned this murder long ago and set up alot of confusion on the internet, he contacted a lawyer and told said lawyer (romeo salta) that somebody named 'manny' forced him to kill those cats on the video (someone is setting him up to take the fall)...this seems to be some recurring theme with him, he says people are impersonating him and stalking him, but i don't think he is delusional, i think he was pretty calculating in building his defense of what he planned to do...he was highly interested in serial killers and serial killers in movies, he loved hannibal lecter and i have to wonder if jun lin's head might be soon located in a storage locker...

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 07:07 AM
What's interesting from her apology news article is that it shows that LM had friends of real people (non sock puppets) online, as Ms. St. Denis is one and that they maintained communication up to, according to the former administrator, right before he was apprehended in Germany.

Hope she isnt lying, because I reported her to the police for having contact with Luka while he was on the run. Luka often spoke in half-truths. If she is telling the truth then there is a possibly that the police may want to see what he said to her while he was on the run.

If she is lying; as I suspect she is, she'll have to deal with it.

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 07:10 AM
http://www.abproject.org/docs/luka_magnotta_-_the_ultimate_timeline_of_events.txt

Peter Parker created that time line; I only hosted it for posterity.

KDOGG
06-29-2012, 10:52 AM
is it believed that LM wrote this article?

http://www.scaminformer.com/scam-report/luka-magnotta-bisexual-male-model-and-porn-star-psychotic-behavior-and-psychopathic-tendencies-c78766.html

LadyL
06-29-2012, 10:58 AM
I think this article goes here. I apologize it is not, please delete it or move it to more appropriate thread @@

http://metronews.ca/news/saskatoon/277753/magnotta-fan-sorry-for-any-offence/

The news article from 2 days ago features the former administrator of one of the larger LM fanbase on Facebook apologizing. She made news about 7 days ago for publicly praising LM. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/21/luka-rocco-magnotta-facebook/

What's interesting from her apology news article is that it shows that LM had friends of real people (non sock puppets) online, as Ms. St. Denis is one and that they maintained communication up to, according to the former administrator, right before he was apprehended in Germany.

I think the article shows some interesting aspect of how LM influences people.


that is interesting ... I wonder how many other 'real' people he convinced to post or make pages on his behalf

hmmm ....

Mbshafeena
06-29-2012, 12:21 PM
that is interesting ... I wonder how many other 'real' people he convinced to post or make pages on his behalf

hmmm ....

Do you honestly believe this girl that he contacted her and asked to have this page made? Something is not right here. Why would he do that after the long record of him making all these webpages by himself. I don't believe her.

pippirose
06-29-2012, 12:29 PM
So many sick people out there, that want *their* 15 minutes of fame. And not thinking of the consequences! Now her whole "business" is out there--complete with full name, photos, family photos, name of the town where she lives. I mean--are these people brain dead?
What happened to all the years of teaching our kids to be "safe" online? They are putting the welfare of their families in jeopardy, not just their own. How selfish and egocentric.

OEJ
06-29-2012, 12:36 PM
is it believed that LM wrote this article?

http://www.scaminformer.com/scam-report/luka-magnotta-bisexual-male-model-and-porn-star-psychotic-behavior-and-psychopathic-tendencies-c78766.html

I believe he did.

KDOGG
06-29-2012, 12:44 PM
I believe he did.

so he just put all the proof out there...HIMSELF?!?!?! :what:

i mean, this is not saying he was framed....it says 'Psychopathic animal torturer Luka Magnotta' :waitasec:

Haunted82
06-29-2012, 01:00 PM
so he just put all the proof out there...HIMSELF?!?!?! :what:

i mean, this is not saying he was framed....it says 'Psychopathic animal torturer Luka Magnotta' :waitasec:


What is also very interesting is the date of this article ... May 24th, the day/night of the murder.

Scientific
06-29-2012, 01:04 PM
But what he's going to do is to say that he was framed by Manny--that no one in their right mind would provide all that evidence for his own crime. And in the process, he may also be building an insanity defense, because if he believes he was framed but there's no evidence for it, then he's delusional. ...I've come to realize just how psychotic Luka is.


so he just put all the proof out there...HIMSELF?!?!?! :what:

i mean, this is not saying he was framed....it says 'Psychopathic animal torturer Luka Magnotta' :waitasec:

prima.facie
06-29-2012, 01:08 PM
is it believed that LM wrote this article?

http://www.scaminformer.com/scam-report/luka-magnotta-bisexual-male-model-and-porn-star-psychotic-behavior-and-psychopathic-tendencies-c78766.html

love how the only other comment to that article is SPAM :giggle: not sure why that struck me funny, but it did...

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 01:08 PM
I believe he did.

Ditto. That is the same set of links he would plaster all over many of his blogspot and wordpress blogs.

On May 24th and May 25th he was busy on RipOffReport and Scaminformer posting a few different reports, I do believe we're already discussed them here. It's weird to me to think that he was posting these things on the day he is filmed murdering poor Lin Jun :(

prima.facie
06-29-2012, 01:12 PM
so he just put all the proof out there...HIMSELF?!?!?! :what:

i mean, this is not saying he was framed....it says 'Psychopathic animal torturer Luka Magnotta' :waitasec:

i truly believe he wants to be compared to the big names: manson, dahmer, bundy, homolka......his two personas: im hot and awesome and loved by all vs. im the most evil psychopath ever to live - know me. fear me. remember me.

he works hard on building up those personas.....
and well it works....he DOES have fans whether one wants to believe it or not...even killers in prison have women falling at their feet sending them letters and starting relationships with them.

Haunted82
06-29-2012, 01:29 PM
Ditto. That is the same set of links he would plaster all over many of his blogspot and wordpress blogs.

On May 24th and May 25th he was busy on RipOffReport and Scaminformer posting a few different reports, I do believe we're already discussed them here. It's weird to me to think that he was posting these things on the day he is filmed murdering poor Lin Jun :(

Yes, it hints of boosting his name and infamous rep, and apparently he was preparing his big production that night, then fled the country. Seemed calculated.
btw, it may have been posted in the past, but do u have the ripoffreport link Baudi?

Mbshafeena
06-29-2012, 01:50 PM
http://lukamagnotta.org/news/luka-is-on-an-s-m-forum-while-in-russia-nov-2010

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 01:51 PM
May 24th:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/bars-lounges-clubs/luka-magnotta-bisexu/luka-magnotta-bisexual-male-mo-81e0c.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/franchisors/nader-eid-fitness-tr/nader-eid-fitness-trainer-aja-cf970.htm (He replys on the 25th)

There are a few more, but I am at work and don't have immediate access to them.

Mbshafeena
06-29-2012, 01:52 PM
http://lukamagnotta.org/resources/Luka-is-on-an-S%26M-forum-while-in-Russia-Nov.-2010.jpg

Mbshafeena
06-29-2012, 01:55 PM
http://lukamagnotta.org/news/the-rita-vanvolkenberg-postings-on-apr-22-24-2012-called-cannibal-serial-killer-luka-magnotta-uploaded-1-month-before-the-murder

scroll down the page to see that he was advertising the murder a month before!, not just two weeks like we have found out previously.

Haunted82
06-29-2012, 02:00 PM
May 24th:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/bars-lounges-clubs/luka-magnotta-bisexu/luka-magnotta-bisexual-male-mo-81e0c.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/franchisors/nader-eid-fitness-tr/nader-eid-fitness-trainer-aja-cf970.htm (He replys on the 25th)

There are a few more, but I am at work and don't have immediate access to them.

Thanks!

Mbshafeena
06-29-2012, 02:09 PM
http://chriscrimeforum.freeforums.org/post12294.html#p12294

down near the bottom LM post in 2011 - now that gave me the chills. This guy knew exactly what he was doing.

Donyale
06-29-2012, 02:48 PM
I think she is lying now. First she said LM was inspirational, she watched the video 20times and LIKED, this chick said that she didn't care at all about 'the other dude' (Jun Lin), could care less about the victim and she knew about all the cats LM killed... Well, what kind of person this girl is that knows that the guy was dangerous and created the fan page anyway? What do they have in common?
She can apologize all she wants but she should be investigated, the emails she received from Luka should be checked, she is no innocent, no one is obliged to do anything against their will just because you get cute emails with hearts... unless she fell in love to Magnotta... I've noticed that she even liked the love message that Breann (the cat killer female) sent to Luka. here the link, notice that "Destiney Danille St Denis like this.", link:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:X8yJ0RI4ppAJ:www.facebook.com/permalink.php%3Fstory_fbid%3D10151073018425802%26i d%3D91549100801%26notif_t%3Dfeed_comment+luka+magn otta+breann+pearl+lang&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us


The news article from 2 days ago features the former administrator of one of the larger LM fanbase on Facebook apologizing. She made news about 7 days ago for publicly praising LM.
What's interesting from her apology news article is that it shows that LM had friends of real people (non sock puppets) online, as Ms. St. Denis is one and that they maintained communication up to, according to the former administrator, right before he was apprehended in Germany.
I think the article shows some interesting aspect of how LM influences people.

matou
06-29-2012, 03:23 PM
Does anyone have his 4chan username, posts and link (cached?) I didn't bookmark it. TIA

Donyale
06-29-2012, 03:41 PM
Does anyone have his 4chan username, posts and link (cached?) I didn't bookmark it. TIA

the one I've found that could be LM is an anonymous user with ID "blUNJBxK" but I guess there were more:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:6aIS1EDWBCkJ:chanarchive.org/4chan/b/47050+http://chanarchive.org/4chan/b/47050.&cd=1&hl=pt-BR&ct=clnk&gl=br&client=firefox-a

Baudi Moovan
06-29-2012, 03:46 PM
She can apologize all she wants but she should be investigated, the emails she received from Luka should be checked, she is no innocent, no one is obliged to do anything against their will just because you get cute emails with hearts... unless she fell in love to Magnotta... I've noticed that she even liked the love message that Breann (the cat killer female) sent to Luka. here the link, notice that "Destiney Danille St Denis like this."]

For what its worth, I sent out some messages to a few of my closer facebook friends on Baudi. I asked for fan page to be created for me by them and I used little hearts and smiley faces. It hasnt worked yet, but I havent given up hope! hah!

:(

Donyale
06-29-2012, 04:08 PM
For what its worth, I sent out some messages to a few of my closer facebook friends on Baudi. I asked for fan page to be created for me by them and I used little hearts and smiley faces. It hasnt worked yet, but I havent given up hope! hah!
:(

awww that's so sad :floorlaugh: did you try to make the hand heart gesture?
it's irresistable, very persuasive! I think that's what LM did on the webcam ;) like this:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4025/4346566927_7406a65ec4.jpg

KDOGG
06-29-2012, 04:25 PM
when this case 1st broke & he was on the run, it was rumored that he was posting here. has that ever been confirmed? or at least thought to be highly likely?

sillybilly
06-29-2012, 05:46 PM
when this case 1st broke & he was on the run, it was rumored that he was posting here. has that ever been confirmed? or at least thought to be highly likely?

That spec usually does exist in cases like this. We aren't allowed to discuss other members.

IMO, i strongly suspect he was reading, if not posting

ynotdivein
06-30-2012, 01:05 AM
Stay focused in here, peeps, or we will have to close the thread.

Keep the conversation at the 10,000 foot level in terms of Eric's online personae.

What names did he use, when did he use them.

Remember that many newer members won't understand your shorthand. Doesn't mean that anyone is being deliberately obtuse.

This thread would be a great place to link any timelines about Eric's various usernames....

Remember also that we can't link to other social media sites, or copy/paste responses from them. Remember that if a site shows up as ***** here, you cannot link to it--not even if you are crafty about it.

Let's keep this thread open, and sleuth around about how Eric was presenting himself online.

Anikka
06-30-2012, 02:03 PM
Hi, I am new here, I have been following here since this case broke, but silently. I just came across a post that I thought that would be interesting or helpful to those here.

The post is from a username littlenemo1, it is on a photoshop website, the OP is looking to hire the services from someone who is good at photoshop. Two people respond, one of them also responds back that he has finished. The post is dated July 28th 2011.
http://www.photoshopforums.com/post78010.html#78010

I hope it is ok to post this link, I was sure it was LM given the username and services requested. If this link is not ok, just let me know and I can delete it, or a mod feel free to remove.
Or if this is in the wrong place, I wasn't sure exactly where it would belong.

EDIT: Also under littlenemo1 is a post on Health Boards, the post is signed Vladimir Romanov he is posting about a sore leg, knee surgery and Russia, and how no one helps him out ever... http://www.healthboards.com/boards/open-all-other-health-topics/851886-my-leg-hurting.html

There are also a few posts at ivillage under this username, For some reason I cannot access them.

A very racist post made at Chimpout, I cannot access this except for a cached version, username littlenemo1, signed Vladimir Romanov. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Z8whYGma7KUJ:www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php%3F189129-******s-in-Restaurants+%22littlenemo1%22&cd=25&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a

I am curious about the username littlenemo, I know this was an old cartoon strip, but beyond that I am not familiar. Does any one have any ideas as to his choice of littlenemo or cutelittlenemo?

Thank you. I hope these are useful, I am not sure what else someone could find with that username, honestly I searched any combo I could think of, and my brain is a bit exhausted.

Donyale
06-30-2012, 02:36 PM
Hi, I am new here, I have been following here since this case broke, but silently. I just came across a post that I thought that would be interesting or helpful to those here.
<snipsnip>
The post is from a username littlenemo1.

Hey Anikka, welcome! :seeya:
It seems LM posted a around with that littlenemo1 alias, using Vladimir Romanov name. He even posted on a healthboard about a knee problem.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/open-all-other-health-topics/851886-my-leg-hurting.html

He created an youtube channel with the alias TheLittlenemo1
claiming he is russian and did comment that he loves russian neonazis.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLittlenemo1/feed?filter=2

Donyale
06-30-2012, 02:49 PM
The post is from a username littlenemo1, it is on a photoshop website, the OP is looking to hire the services from someone who is good at photoshop. Two people respond, one of them also responds back that he has finished. The post is dated July 28th 2011.
http://www.photoshopforums.com/post78010.html#78010

I think it is interesting that the person who answered that he finished the job is from Mesa, Arizona! We know Luka said he was in Arizona for a while, at least he posted with cutelittlenemo1 claiming that location, there is no proof he was there but still... strange... I wonder what he requested to be photoshopped. It would be interesting to investigate or ask that person.

Anikka
06-30-2012, 02:52 PM
Thank you for the welcome Donyale. Sorry I was editing my post and adding a few more links, before I saw your post. I did see those links, I also grew tired of searching posts, an exhaustive task with this guy.

I am curious about what he was helped with as far as the photoshop goes too, but not brave enough to ask. I can imagine if the person who helped him realized... it would be an "oh no!" sinking reaction. :(

ynotdivein
06-30-2012, 03:00 PM
Member PAXIMUS provided this useful overview:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8068946&postcount=1



Respectfully quoted:

These were posted on FB <modsnip>:

Luka Magnotta YouTube accounts
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Jasminethecat666
... Jasminethecat99 (has posted at least 4 comments on other videos under this name 1 week ago)
TheScarface3030
TheSopranos20
sexyman89489
666StallionItalian
Tyrone99Power
global100canada
catherinetramell2000
miami3093840
Gucci20901200
Mr9848534
5q5676
2remembermealways4u
iloveilovelove
pricelessstud19
6event6horizon66
sentinal560
fallinloveandadoreme
rosesareredmylove
materialgirljuly
sopranos2322
pointofnoreturnn
1999vamp – 1 month ago – liked Boa Vs Rabbit video
bluesky40987
eat666me (1 month ago)
richardduck17
sharkeinthewater
red66night
princessgyasya3
66believe66
BasicInstinct1212121
versace868668666
catherinetramell2000
5q5676
johnathanclarkson22
inthenextlife12
MsXbox3600 (possibly – account deleted, supporting Luka)
Lighttunnell
flyerfrequent9
66iseestupidpeople – (4 weeks ago)
436t6 (1 month ago)
simplythebestyes1
2remembermealways4u
madonnaandme1 – liked hitler speech video – swastika in 1 kitten video
TheIlovecookies3
sucks2bufool
imlukamagnottas1fan
everyonelovesmeso
loveannanicolesmith
areyoujealousyet
thegreatwallofchina8
cape33fear
jesuslovesme887
iloveasiaalways
freedomforall47
doyouloveme09
seenoevilhearnoevil1
77forgetmenot77
makepeacelove7
thecaribeanisgreat
limoncello23
lawandorder5
iloveasiaalways
candy4avagardner
Santaslave666 – possibly (closed)
championforrights2
iluvlukamagnotta
davidbeckhamfan43
michaeljackson088
sexygayvampires (2 months ago)
event88horizon – 1 month ago
SMCY05
98712399
Liquid999liquid
loveforever254
megaman999megaman (closed)
katerbee
batman19090
basicinstinct4
quicksilver44
spiderspider1211
russianprince111
safeandclearalright
sucks2bufool
india90001
bluesky40987
tigertigerburning4
inthenextlife12
SaraConnor3000
strangersinthenitexx
boldsexychick19
bluesky40987
bemybaby9090
01thevulture – (most recent posts)
blackweb66688 – (most recent posts)
jasminethecat99 (most recent posts)
----------------------------------------------------------------
Luka Magnotta Vimeo Accounts
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maria maria – (3 videos, 8 months ago)
mary maria – (3 videos 8 months ago)
Jayne Mansfield (2 months ago)
Vincent Karlov (4 months ago)
Adam Carter (2 months ago)
Anik (2 years ago)
Peter Lucifer (2 months ago)
Luka Magnotta (2 years ago)
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Luka Magnotta Daily Motion Accounts
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876667788p
984753d
luka-magnotta
hollywoodca8
versace9000
w647476
bluesky666
PINKSUNSET666
666believe666 (25th 09 2011) vampiressexy13
436346g
Joanne_Scott
66998866armani
5o05fj5lld
iloveclubbing22
video111110

https://www.facebook.com/groups/ForGreatJustice/


<modsnip for focus on online identities>

Donyale
06-30-2012, 03:00 PM
A very racist post made at Chimpout, I cannot access this except for a cashed version, username littlenemo1, signed Vladimir Romanov. http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Z8whYGma7KUJ:www.chimpout.com/forum/showthread.php%3F189129-******s-in-Restaurants+%22littlenemo1%22&cd=25&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a


Wow, that racist post was new to me! it has a whole new level of hate compared to the white supremacist posts he published on the Stormfront forum (reddragon1 alias), those were btw removed....

Donyale
06-30-2012, 03:14 PM
Thank you for the welcome Donyale. Sorry I was editing my post and adding a few more links, before I saw your post. I did see those links, I also grew tired of searching posts, an exhaustive task with this guy.

I am curious about what he was helped with as far as the photoshop goes too, but not brave enough to ask. I can imagine if the person who helped him realized... it would be an "oh no!" sinking reaction. :(

Hey, no problem! it's really crazy to check all the links, I get tired just by imagining how much time LM spent online creating so many new accounts and profiles, it is insane!
I don't know if we should and how we could ask that guy from Arizona about the photoshop job. What kind of photos he requested, it really makes me wonder. It could be something irrelevant to the case but I think it is so strange the Arizona connection. Wonder if they developed some friendship afterwards and LM visited the guy. Will the LE check this? Questions questions.... I hope some journalist check on that, would be an interesting story.

Amandes
06-30-2012, 04:23 PM
I just checked the link which was posted on page 1 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/franchisors/nader-eid-fitness-tr/nader-eid-fitness-trainer-aja-cf970.htm) and Luka posted a link at the bottom, I followed the link, took a screenshot of what I found. Is that Luka's account on that TGirlForum? If yes, then this is weird ;)

HastingsChi
06-30-2012, 04:48 PM
I just checked the link which was posted on page 1 (http://www.ripoffreport.com/franchisors/nader-eid-fitness-tr/nader-eid-fitness-trainer-aja-cf970.htm) and Luka posted a link at the bottom, I followed the link, took a screenshot of what I found. Is that Luka's account on that TGirlForum? If yes, then this is weird ;)

BarbieSwallows is NOT Magnotta and has not claimed to be Magnotta; though she used to know him...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2

Amandes
06-30-2012, 04:56 PM
BarbieSwallows is NOT Magnotta and has not claimed to be Magnotta; though she used to know him...

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2

good, didn't know about that - thanks for clearing that up! I wonder why he posted her account to that site, what a weirdo.

HastingsChi
06-30-2012, 05:03 PM
good, didn't know about that - thanks for clearing that up! I wonder why he posted her account to that site, what a weirdo.

They dated for a couple weeks circa 6 years ago, as you see in the posts they didn't click well and aside from that post and a few others the two don't seem to have maintained contact over the last 6 years.



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2

Tucarra
06-30-2012, 05:11 PM
Hey Anikka, welcome! :seeya:
It seems LM posted a around with that littlenemo1 alias, using Vladimir Romanov name. He even posted on a healthboard about a knee problem.
http://www.healthboards.com/boards/open-all-other-health-topics/851886-my-leg-hurting.html

He created an youtube channel with the alias TheLittlenemo1
claiming he is russian and did comment that he loves russian neonazis.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheLittlenemo1/feed?filter=2

That video upload by "TheLittlenemo1" is absolutely haunting (as if we haven't seen enough)...but seemed to have a heavy emphasis on calendar dates...

Has anyone discovered or noticed a reference or significance to May 24th / 25th anywhere....???

OEJ
07-01-2012, 12:57 AM
There are also a few posts at ivillage under this username, For some reason I cannot access them.




Snip

I found one of the ivillage posts you were looking for:

http://forums.ivillage.com/t5/Your-Well-Being/Knock-Knock/m-p/117521245/highlight/true#M81697

jellybeanz
07-01-2012, 04:10 PM
May 24th:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/bars-lounges-clubs/luka-magnotta-bisexu/luka-magnotta-bisexual-male-mo-81e0c.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/franchisors/nader-eid-fitness-tr/nader-eid-fitness-trainer-aja-cf970.htm (He replys on the 25th)

There are a few more, but I am at work and don't have immediate access to them.
The replies to both of those are extremely interesting.

Tony Luciforia is made out to be the very outspoken 'Barbie Swallocks', ex partner of LRM. A link is provided in the comment to her 'regular' forum.

Nader Eid is also included in the main report, another person seemingly from LRM's past.

Why would Magnotta throw these names in at the last moment?

OEJ
07-01-2012, 04:16 PM
The replies to both of those are extremely interesting.

Tony Luciforia is made out to be the very outspoken 'Barbie Swallocks', ex partner of LRM. A link is provided in the comment to her 'regular' forum.

Nader Eid is also included in the main report, another person seemingly from LRM's past.

Why would Magnotta throw these names in at the last moment?

It looks to me like he was lashing out at people he felt had rejected him.

sillybilly
07-01-2012, 06:04 PM
The replies to both of those are extremely interesting.

Tony Luciforia is made out to be the very outspoken 'Barbie Swallocks', ex partner of LRM. A link is provided in the comment to her 'regular' forum.

Nader Eid is also included in the main report, another person seemingly from LRM's past.

Why would Magnotta throw these names in at the last moment?

This may have been discussed before, but there are pics of LRM and Nader in a car together (google images nader eid ajax). Don't know what date, (doesn't appear to be school age) but it seems he had some type of friendship/relationship with him.

zvzvzv
07-02-2012, 06:55 PM
This may have been discussed before, but there are pics of LRM and Nader in a car together (google images nader eid ajax). Don't know what date, (doesn't appear to be school age) but it seems he had some type of friendship/relationship with him.

Seems to me that "Nader Eid" was the 'straight-acting middle eastern man' who broke Luka's heart. It's doubtful this man will be coming forward any with information. Good for him if he does, otherwise he'll have a hard time happily sharing a hard candy with someone in a car again at the least.

HastingsChi
07-02-2012, 07:04 PM
This may have been discussed before, but there are pics of LRM and Nader in a car together (google images nader eid ajax). Don't know what date, (doesn't appear to be school age) but it seems he had some type of friendship/relationship with him.

My understanding is that the photos of the two are from years ago, around the time both were featured in the same photo shoot for xtra! magazine.

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typoprone
07-07-2012, 02:52 AM
The news article from 2 days ago features the former administrator of one of the larger LM fanbase on Facebook apologizing. She made news about 7 days ago for publicly praising LM. http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/21/luka-rocco-magnotta-facebook/

The girl's comments in that article are wicked and offensive! I was particularly appalled when she said, "I have seen the video over 20 times. I do think that was him, and I liked it. He is inspirational because he is not afraid to be himself” and “I couldn’t care less about that dude. I think that if anyone is a victim in this case, it is Luka."

Seriously, I wanna slap her. :banghead:

Mozzmo
07-07-2012, 03:22 AM
I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Scientific
07-07-2012, 04:26 AM
One pet theory I have is that he was never really gay but just scoping for gay people to target. Maybe the Canadian government/media is downplaying the Nazi angle because it doesn't suit their international relations. There are a lot of Nazi links on his twitter account, way more in proportion to other sorts of links. Nazi or not, I definitely think he is a serial killer because of the long-term obsession with it and the killing of animals. The nazism would be like a sub-theme, complimenting his main goal in some regards. Either way, you can't expect psycho bigoted people to be consistent that much at all. He was just grasping for reasons to pour his hatred onto others.


I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

claudicici
07-07-2012, 04:54 AM
well,I think it's that whole contradicting himself and loving and hating himself.
I really think he was very,very torn inside and the two Luka's were at each other's throat constantly.
What did it say on the wall? If you don't like what you see don't look in the mirror.I don't care.

Sierra20
07-07-2012, 08:57 AM
well,I think it's that whole contradicting himself and loving and hating himself.
I really think he was very,very torn inside and the two Luka's were at each other's throat constantly.
What did it say on the wall? If you don't like what you see don't look in the mirror.I don't care.

Do you think he has split personality disorder at all? I am sure this has been touched on before but I must have missed the discussion... I would be interested on anyone's views/findings that support or do not support this theory?

claudicici
07-07-2012, 09:35 AM
Personally I'm not smart enough or know enough about mental illnesses to even begin to make decision on that.I do have a strong feeling though how torn he is inside .I think it takes a lot of effort to convince himself that he is the most intelligent,most devastating good looking human on earth that deserves so much happiness but then he never feels he is good enough and longs to be someone completely different,I think that shows by how he creates all these different sock puppets ,some of them glorifying himself,others condemning himself.I think he hates us all because he feels it is us ,all of us ,that make him feel not good enough for the fame and fortune and admiration he feels he deserves,I think he kind of threw that in our face by showing us if we can't love him for being good we did make him famous for being disgustingly evil.I think that will validate in his mind that we are the sick ones and not him.

ToBeHonest
07-07-2012, 12:25 PM
I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

I don't have thoughts specific to nazism, but also noticed his twitter follows several accounts with racist ideologies, but I have spent a bit of time looking at LM's twitter. His twitter is peppered with links to racist websites, but then also includes quotes about tolerance and acceptance. I think the closest term I can use to describe my feelings about LM's ideologies (I think I've mentioned this before) is that on his twitter he links to an expanded definition of cognitive dissonance. I've seen him in photos with people who are not white and he seems happy. I think this may be another area where it could be argued that he really had no idea what he actually thought, he just had enough hate to spread far and wide and seemed to fit on the fringes of society, so it may have suited him to make that a part of his patchwork.

Sierra20
07-07-2012, 12:32 PM
Personally I'm not smart enough or know enough about mental illnesses to even begin to make decision on that.I do have a strong feeling though how torn he is inside .I think it takes a lot of effort to convince himself that he is the most intelligent,most devastating good looking human on earth that deserves so much happiness but then he never feels he is good enough and longs to be someone completely different,I think that shows by how he creates all these different sock puppets ,some of them glorifying himself,others condemning himself.I think he hates us all because he feels it is us ,all of us ,that make him feel not good enough for the fame and fortune and admiration he feels he deserves,I think he kind of threw that in our face by showing us if we can't love him for being good we did make him famous for being disgustingly evil.I think that will validate in his mind that we are the sick ones and not him.

Yes it certainly sounds like he put a lot on his own shoulders... Having this self hatred as well as trying to convince the world he was devastatingly good looking enough etc to become famous and the need for fame he had so badly, I don't know why, to feel accepted by the world maybe.
I am not in any way trained either in psychology but some posts under his aliases where he says he is married with children etc really do sound like a multiple personality disorder!

ToBeHonest
07-07-2012, 12:36 PM
Personally I'm not smart enough or know enough about mental illnesses to even begin to make decision on that.I do have a strong feeling though how torn he is inside .I think it takes a lot of effort to convince himself that he is the most intelligent,most devastating good looking human on earth that deserves so much happiness but then he never feels he is good enough and longs to be someone completely different,I think that shows by how he creates all these different sock puppets ,some of them glorifying himself,others condemning himself.I think he hates us all because he feels it is us ,all of us ,that make him feel not good enough for the fame and fortune and admiration he feels he deserves,I think he kind of threw that in our face by showing us if we can't love him for being good we did make him famous for being disgustingly evil.I think that will validate in his mind that we are the sick ones and not him.

I think you have great insight here. It has been shown that many cases of NPD are a cover for low self-esteem; I think that mechanism of NPD applies to Luka if anyone. As my psych profs used to say, all mental illness and personality exists on a spectrum. To me, of all the quotes he ever put together, this one stuck with me (it's from his Alexi Baranov profile on FB): "You cant judge me if you cant save me. There is more to this universe then the little planet earth, I will eventually be freed from my body and then I will be free at last." I can't find that this is plagiarized, but I could be wrong. If so, it indicates a strong dislike for his being in wanting to to be freed from this body he claims to love so much.

I think a lot of his online presence supports the presence of DID, though it's recently been argued that DID is not a diagnosis ^ the DSM-5. Concepts that DO support such a diagnosis are: 1) the clear love/hate shown in various sockpuppets online; 2) the creation of however many sockpuppets LM created, perhaps a lapse of memory while dissociating in many cases? 3) his assertions that he is being stalked when most of us can objectively see it seems to be Luka on all ends of the conversation; 4) his purporting childhood abuse, as DID usually manifests from extreme childhood abuse and stressors.

Who knows, maybe it's another one we can add to the bag, as I have no doubt he is co-morbid in his pathos.

ToBeHonest
07-07-2012, 12:39 PM
Yes it certainly sounds like he put a lot on his own shoulders... Having this self hatred as well as trying to convince the world he was devastatingly good looking enough etc to become famous and the need for fame he had so badly, I don't know why, to feel accepted by the world maybe.
I am not in any way trained either in psychology but some posts under his aliases where he says he is married with children etc really do sound like a multiple personality disorder!

Oooh, great point! I didn't think of that. It could also support peoples' claims that he would create drama and then try to remove himself from it claiming he was not the perpetrator of the drama.

Mozzmo
07-07-2012, 12:42 PM
I don't have thoughts specific to nazism, but also noticed his twitter follows several accounts with racist ideologies, but I have spent a bit of time looking at LM's twitter. His twitter is peppered with links to racist websites, but then also includes quotes about tolerance and acceptance. I think the closest term I can use to describe my feelings about LM's ideologies (I think I've mentioned this before) is that on his twitter he links to an expanded definition of cognitive dissonance. I've seen him in photos with people who are not white and he seems happy. I think this may be another area where it could be argued that he really had no idea what he actually thought, he just had enough hate to spread far and wide and seemed to fit on the fringes of society, so it may have suited him to make that a part of his patchwork.

Now that you mention it, I do recall a photo of him dancing with a black female. Clearly, his Nazi musings are no different then so many of his other contradictory pieces and/or lies riddled throughout his net footprint. Perhaps on the days he felt particularly angry at the world, disgruntled, and/or his possible mood disorder was in a dark place...he vented it out in a bastardized way as was not uncommon for him. Perhaps he identified with the seething hatred these types of persons have and how they use it to define themselves and justify their crimes against humanity. LM never would "fit" into society and eventually seems to have felt rage that he wasn't able to emerge beyond being a so-so attractive bottomfeeder. This could have played a role in his identifying with those radical groups that reject societal norms. If you can't be them, fight/hate them.

ToBeHonest
07-07-2012, 01:02 PM
Now that you mention it, I do recall a photo of him dancing with a black female. Clearly, his Nazi musings are no different then so many of his other contradictory pieces and/or lies riddled throughout his net footprint. Perhaps on the days he felt particularly angry at the world, disgruntled, and/or his possible mood disorder was in a dark place...he vented it out in a bastardized way as was not uncommon for him. Perhaps he identified with the seething hatred these types of persons have and how they use it to define themselves and justify their crimes against humanity. LM never would "fit" into society and eventually seems to have felt rage that he wasn't able to emerge beyond being a so-so attractive bottomfeeder. This could have played a role in his identifying with those radical groups that reject societal norms. If you can't be them, fight/hate them.

Yes, the photo of the black female was one that stood out in my mind, as well as the one of him holding the mixed child he claims is his w/ Karla Homolka. I feel his hatred spread far and wide--it was so obvious he was just angry, angry for failing to become a success, angry at not being accepted, angry at being rejected by society. I think his racial hatred is not different than any other hatred he had, it was directed at the larger population/society as a whole, but did not necessarily stand up in the face of specific individuals, especially if they were accepting of him, even for a short while.

claudicici
07-07-2012, 01:20 PM
....and Jun Lin by all means truly seemed self confident,content,he had a future,despite coming from a place where it was probably very hard for him to be accepted,he seemed to generate this honest,sweet personality,that true persona that just seemed to make everyone like him without effort .....I can imagine how jealous Luka could have been of him?
....in a way maybe it was jealousy that made him kill the kittens as well? who wouldn't love a kitten? the kitten does not have to do anything,no effort to be loved....

ToBeHonest
07-07-2012, 01:33 PM
....and Jun Lin by all means truly seemed self confident,content,he had a future,despite coming from a place where it was probably very hard for him to be accepted,he seemed to generate this honest,sweet personality,that true persona that just seemed to make everyone like him without effort .....I can imagine how jealous Luka could have been of him?
....in a way maybe it was jealousy that made him kill the kittens as well? who wouldn't love a kitten? the kitten does not have to do anything,no effort to be loved....

I agree with you and had an additional theory about choosing kittens based on my experience--when young I loved dogs, they adore you and love you, but as I got older and more independent I actually came to find dogs to be a bit too needy. Narcissists feel only unconditional, idealized love meets their standards, and they get angry when love waxes and wanes as it always will. Cats are not pack animals, they don't 'need' people, and they do not adore them like dogs do. They come and go as they please, and are a bit hot and cold in their liking for you. I feel that detachment/perception of rejection may have hit a hot spot with LM and potentially even angered him on a primal level, but that's just me.

Sierra20
07-07-2012, 02:02 PM
I don't know if LM knew Justin Lin long enough to become that jealous of him to the point of murder though.... even though it has been reported I don't believe they were lovers for a long period of time. I am sure LM came across many people he felt very jealous of throughout his troubled lifetime.

Amandes
07-07-2012, 03:03 PM
I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

never understood that, same with him being 'russian' - but then again I don't understand slavic neo-Nazis either.

prima.facie
07-07-2012, 03:07 PM
I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

so many people dont know the full truth behind the nazis....most hear "nazi" and think of hitler killing [only] jews. more than likely that is what LM thought. the amount of people who dont know that WW2 holocaust was not just about jews is pretty high from what ive encountered....

HastingsChi
07-07-2012, 04:27 PM
I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

He just wanted attention and to be noticed in a virtual world when no one in the real world seemed to give a care about him... he would say or do anything for attention- he didn't have to believe the words he typed and misspelled, he just needed to know that those words would agitate the reader...

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HastingsChi
07-07-2012, 04:29 PM
I really think he was very,very torn inside and the two Luka's were at each other's throat constantly.

You forgot to type the word thousand after you wrote two above...

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pannekoek
07-07-2012, 05:03 PM
You forgot to type the word thousand after you wrote two above...

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LOL! I think that might even be an understatement! ;)

Sierra20
07-07-2012, 06:39 PM
I feel like we are really beating around the bush, LM is just a huge WEIRDO!!! There are lots of other scientific ways to put it I know, but watching that audition again for the plastic surgery well he gives me the total creeps, you can see it a mile off he is not someone you would want to meet in a dark alley, and that was over 4 years prior to JL's murder! God only knows!

Donyale
07-07-2012, 07:32 PM
I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?

Hey Mozzmo, I remember reading on Stormfront forum that Luka wasn't a real white supremacist, actually they got really angry. First of all, majority of those people fight what they call traditional customs (woman & man marriage, against immigration, racial mixed couples etc) and they are very homophobic so I remember they kept calling LM another 'twinkie/fag**t' trying to get attention in the news using their ideology. They deleted the threads started by LM (reddragon4 alias) because it was giving then negative attention. I guess you can find some old cached info of those posts on google.

We can't deny that a white canadian killing a chinese student is a political/racial matter (especially when homossexuality is a big tabu in China)but IMHO I don't believe LM was a real racist/white nationalist, I think all he wanted is to shock people, the same way when he claimed he hated the homeless or Family Guy.
He always attempted to attach his name to what is hot in the news at the moment, if the headline says Michael Jakson is dead, right after Luka claimed on yahoo question that he was his lover. If the press talk about bath salts cannibal attacks in Florida, right after LM will make his video pretending he is Hannibal Lector. I think that maybe he joined racist forums and liked nazi videos on youtube, because he was impressed with someone making headlines, last few years there were episodes that brought the nazi groups on the news: 'Arbeit Macht Frei' sign over Auschwitz was stolen, Fashion designer John Galliano cursing at jews, Anders Breivik mass murderer, etc. IDK, but I think Luka is just a famew**re and will follow whatever brings attention to him, I don't believe his racism is genuine, but everything is possible... just my most humble opinion :)

OEJ
07-08-2012, 04:52 PM
I find LM's racist/nazi proclivities interesting. The Nazi's killed gay men as readily as they killed the Jews. I noticed photos of swastikas in one of LM's sock puppet accounts. I don't get how he reconciled being bi/gay...and supporting Nazi ideologies. Anyone got any thoughts on this?


I just wanted to mention that the SS were anti-gay, but they were not the first group who did Hitler's bidding. His first band of thugs were the Brown Shirts, and many, if not most, of them were gay. Once Hitler had established his SS, he sent them out to slaughter the Brown Shirts in what has been subsequently called, The Night of the Long Knives.

pannekoek
07-10-2012, 12:59 PM
I already posted this in another thread but think it probably belongs here..

Last night strolling through the Craigslist men seek men ads for Montreal I found this odd one. Its called ‘WATCH OUT FOR “West Islander” the PIC COLLECTER’ and was submitted on may 31.

The structure, writing style, abuse of caps-lock and the koekoek inherent logic resembles LM’s Ripoff reports style, IMO.

In the weeks before the murder he alledgedly was having flame wars with other users. Sending them pictures of himself and of other men, harrasing and even threatening some. There were even adds posted to warn for this person (alledgedly LM) with a list of all his known usernames etc. This warning is different because its against one specific user. It makes me wonder if this is the person who was most active in warning against LM and maby pissed him off enough to write a complaint.

This is the link:
http://montreal.en.craigslist.ca/m4m/3048285481.html

What do you think?

Haunted82
07-10-2012, 02:07 PM
I already posted this in another thread but think it probably belongs here..

Last night strolling through the Craigslist men seek men ads for Montreal I found this odd one. Its called ‘WATCH OUT FOR “West Islander” the PIC COLLECTER’ and was submitted on may 31.

The structure, writing style, abuse of caps-lock and the koekoek inherent logic resembles LM’s Ripoff reports style, IMO.

In the weeks before the murder he alledgedly was having flame wars with other users. Sending them pictures of himself and of other men, harrasing and even threatening some. There were even adds posted to warn for this person (alledgedly LM) with a list of all his known usernames etc. This warning is different because its against one specific user. It makes me wonder if this is the person who was most active in warning against LM and maby pissed him off enough to write a complaint.

This is the link:
http://montreal.en.craigslist.ca/m4m/3048285481.html

What do you think?

Yes, it very well could be about him. Being posted on May 31 is a bit curious as it was the day before that the whole LM story broke world wide, so it's not surprising he put "Given all the recent events happening in this city" , which I believe to be a nod to the case. Funny enough, though, I've seen similar ads to that in Toronto and other Ontario cities when I've been browsing through, so there is a lot of people out there who play the game of wanting to see people's pictures without sending their own. This was a full week after the murder, so its possible it was another chump pulling the same routine.

From what I recall about a previous warning posting, the person (possibly LRM) would send horrific pictures of men with diseases if the individual did not agree to a meeting. It would appear in some cases LRM was sending actual pictures of himself, because they referenced model shots with effeminate looking guys with makeup.

prima.facie
07-12-2012, 10:38 AM
i have no idea where to put this....so here it lays.....

i have developed this strange facination with people who are obsessed with LM....not like us who dive into cases, but in love with, passionate for, fans, admirers, etc...

this is nothing new....men who have raped and murdered even have women fans while spending the rest of their life in prison - but the entire thing facinates me. WTF would a woman be attracted to an evil person. does it mean they are just like the person they admire and love? they would have to be. how could someone be turned on by one who murders, abuses and rapes + more?

Magnotta fan has 'schoolgirl crush'
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/07/11/magnotta-fan-has-schoolgirl-crush

Inside the Bizarre World of Luka Magnotta Fan Sites
http://betabeat.com/2012/07/inside-the-bizarre-world-of-luka-magnotta-fan-sites/

lukamagnottaobsession A Luka fan site
http://lukamagnottaobsession.wordpress.com/

and im sure there are more out there.....

katriana
07-12-2012, 10:38 AM
i found a series of interesting timeline videos of luka:

LUKA MAGNOTTA PSYCHO INTERNET FOOTPRINTS 1 - YouTube

LUKA MAGNOTTA PSYCHO INTERNET FOOTPRINTS 2 - YouTube

LUKA MAGNOTTA PSYCHO INTERNET FOOTPRINTS 3 - YouTube

LUKA MAGNOTTA PSYCHO INTERNET FOOTPRINTS 4 - YouTube

Jujercu
07-12-2012, 10:25 PM
i have no idea where to put this....so here it lays.....

i have developed this strange facination with people who are obsessed with LM....not like us who dive into cases, but in love with, passionate for, fans, admirers, etc...

this is nothing new....men who have raped and murdered even have women fans while spending the rest of their life in prison - but the entire thing facinates me. WTF would a woman be attracted to an evil person. does it mean they are just like the person they admire and love? they would have to be. how could someone be turned on by one who murders, abuses and rapes + more?

Magnotta fan has 'schoolgirl crush'
http://www.torontosun.com/2012/07/11/magnotta-fan-has-schoolgirl-crush

Inside the Bizarre World of Luka Magnotta Fan Sites
http://betabeat.com/2012/07/inside-the-bizarre-world-of-luka-magnotta-fan-sites/

lukamagnottaobsession A Luka fan site
http://lukamagnottaobsession.wordpress.com/

and im sure there are more out there.....

Have you done any reading on hybristophilia? Hybristophilia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. It's a condition were people fall in love or are sexually aroused by someone who committed grisly murders or deeds...might be interesting to you considering your fascination.

Mbshafeena
07-13-2012, 08:39 PM
I found out today that as we all figured out beavisbutthead was not LM. Beavis even came here to post. I did however find out additional info on this character, it is posted under the animal thread.

HastingsChi
07-13-2012, 09:47 PM
I found out today that as we all figured out beavisbutthead was not LM. Beavis even came here to post. I did however find out additional info on this character, it is posted under the animal thread.

I know myself and a bunch of others (I'm looking at you SB) confirmed he was not Magnotta the weekend prior to Magnotta's arrest. But I'd love to learn what you've uncovered Mbshafeena.

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Mbshafeena
07-13-2012, 10:36 PM
I know myself and a bunch of others (I'm looking at you SB) confirmed he was not Magnotta the weekend prior to Magnotta's arrest. But I'd love to learn what you've uncovered Mbshafeena.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2


Just go to the other thread, animals...crimes to see what I found. He still has not posted his "proof" that he said he would today proving that the kitten killing vid is a fake but I am patient. I have to do a google earth to see if the building is immediately next to LM apartment, if not it would be the next one by the addy.

italianWSfan
07-14-2012, 11:00 AM
Apparently, LM liked the artist "Lithium Vandale", especially the song "Cannibal".
Their website has released some E-Mails LM wrote to them back in January.

Interesting quote:
"I listen to it quite often, it has such a dark feeling to it and it puts me in a very strange but sexual mood."

In the mails he also advertises his devastatingly good looks and asks to appear in one of their videos.

http://www.lithiumvandale.com/luka-rocco-magnotta-emails.php

zvzvzv
07-14-2012, 12:03 PM
Apparently, LM liked the artist "Lithium Vandale", especially the song "Cannibal".
Their website has released some E-Mails LM wrote to them back in January.

Interesting quote:
"I listen to it quite often, it has such a dark feeling to it and it puts me in a very strange but sexual mood."

In the mails he also advertises his devastatingly good looks and asks to appear in one of their videos.

http://www.lithiumvandale.com/luka-rocco-magnotta-emails.php


that webpage appears to be the work of a delusional narcissist,
complete with a manager and fans.
he has sockpuppet accounts praising his own videos too.
if Luka was emailing about modeling he would include links to his portfolio.

ToBeHonest
07-14-2012, 12:35 PM
that webpage appears to be the work of a delusional narcissist,
complete with a manager and fans.
he has sockpuppet accounts praising his own videos too.
if Luka was emailing about modeling he would include links to his portfolio.

They cut off the email it was from, also. I really question the validity of this, or if this band is trying to capitalize off of LM's story to get their name out. The grammar is too good and doesn't really sound like LM either.

zvzvzv
07-14-2012, 03:36 PM
They cut off the email it was from, also. I really question the validity of this, or if this band is trying to capitalize off of LM's story to get their name out. The grammar is too good and doesn't really sound like LM either.

i agree, maybe more of an unethical capitalist than delusional narcissist which is too bad because i think his
music is alright if you like gothic/industrial,
but
i doubt even the more popular groups in that genre get
so much fan mail they have to print it out to read later.

ToBeHonest
07-14-2012, 08:35 PM
i agree, maybe more of an unethical capitalist than delusional narcissist which is too bad because i think his
music is alright if you like gothic/industrial,
but
i doubt even the more popular groups in that genre get
so much fan mail they have to print it out to read later.

Yeah, i actually liked the song to an extent, I just don't think it's him. After all I've read about him, I can't see him signing anything with best regards or spelling everything right. I guess I would have to compare it to other documents he sent when looking for jobs, but there are none to my knowledge. It made it over to a Luka Magnotta fan page, so I am guessing the intent was to spread the word. I wouldn't doubt if the band posted it there themselves in an attempt to ingratiate their song into Luka fan culture.

Sunday
07-15-2012, 01:27 AM
Yeah, i actually liked the song to an extent, I just don't think it's him. After all I've read about him, I can't see him signing anything with best regards or spelling everything right. I guess I would have to compare it to other documents he sent when looking for jobs, but there are none to my knowledge. It made it over to a Luka Magnotta fan page, so I am guessing the intent was to spread the word. I wouldn't doubt if the band posted it there themselves in an attempt to ingratiate their song into Luka fan culture.
It does seem too articulate for Luka, except for the part about having sex to his music. WTF says that when they are trying to land a job?

HastingsChi
07-15-2012, 01:56 AM
Yeah, i actually liked the song to an extent, I just don't think it's him. After all I've read about him, I can't see him signing anything with best regards or spelling everything right. I guess I would have to compare it to other documents he sent when looking for jobs, but there are none to my knowledge. It made it over to a Luka Magnotta fan page, so I am guessing the intent was to spread the word. I wouldn't doubt if the band posted it there themselves in an attempt to ingratiate their song into Luka fan culture.

ToBeHonest did you just coin the term "Luka Fan Culture"... Yuck, almost feel like I need to shower reading it but unfortunately it's a sad reality...

Reading all these articles about Magnotta's "obsessed female fans" is so bizarre-- and now my advice for Magnotta's female fans:

Ladies that fall into this niche category: if you want to be a fruit fly, queen bee, homo honey, flame dame or whatever you want to call it; the gay community welcomes you. But a word of advice, even if he wasn't charged with these horrors, you might want to choose a gay friend who doesn't spend 23 hours each day on the computer and actually does fun real world things. Now let's add the horrific crimes to the mix, you might want to consider he might be a touch crazy-- not that fun kinda crazy but the kinda crazy that doesn't end in good natured laughter. Now stop being silly geese yearning for the phone to ring and Magnotta singing a Lionel Richie song to you; it's never going to happen. Instead maybe volunteer at a soup kitchen, work for a charitable cause dear to your heart or anything other than making macaroni art Magnotta's and idolizing him the same way 10 year old girls do with Justin Bieber...

Scientific
07-15-2012, 02:26 AM
Maybe Luka used spell check and spent an hour revising his message. We don't really know. As for content, it sure sounds like him.


It does seem too articulate for Luka, except for the part about having sex to his music. WTF says that when they are trying to land a job?

HastingsChi
07-15-2012, 06:03 AM
Maybe Luka used spell check and spent an hour revising his message. We don't really know. As for content, it sure sounds like him.

I'm highly suspect that Magnotta was aware that spell check existed. When the case broke and I first read his gibberish I recall thinking that I'd never read anyone who hated spell check so much. Magnotta's writing style as clear "tells" which include consistently dreadful spelling and odd use of capitalization; these "tells" are consistent in almost everything he wrote that was not plagiarized.

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Sierra20
07-15-2012, 06:12 AM
ToBeHonest did you just coin the term "Luka Fan Culture"... Yuck, almost feel like I need to shower reading it but unfortunately it's a sad reality...



(snip)

That's not all, I just read "50 shades of Luka" is now coined on the internet too!!! I think it was started by Lexa Mancini. I wonder if her obsession started cos they have the same intitials?!!!!! j/k

Scientific
07-15-2012, 04:25 PM
Yes, but perhaps the band spell checked it themselves. We can't really know either way, right?


I'm highly suspect that Magnotta was aware that spell check existed. When the case broke and I first read his gibberish I recall thinking that I'd never read anyone who hated spell check so much. Magnotta's writing style as clear "tells" which include consistently dreadful spelling and odd use of capitalization; these "tells" are consistent in almost everything he wrote that was not plagiarized.

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claudicici
07-16-2012, 04:10 AM
(snip)

That's not all, I just read "50 shades of Luka" is now coined on the internet too!!! I think it was started by Lexa Mancini. I wonder if her obsession started cos they have the same intitials?!!!!! j/k
https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/293875_470640362963803_1169874962_n.jpg

claudicici
07-16-2012, 04:10 AM
ooops didn't mean for it to be so big !


....and no,I don't think Luka wrote these e-mails,I think the band is just trying to promote themselves

cherriejones88
07-16-2012, 05:56 AM
Surfing the net and found this thread very interesting. I am new here and I have been following this LM sicko for sometime now. These emails to this band is old news, I seen those sometime ago, I however do feel like those were from him. I read on this board that someone has seen emails of LM and his grammar is bad and such, everyone talking about spell check and calling whoever Lithium Vandale is a delusional narcissist. Looking deeper than just spouting mental disorder labels, I find that the video from the band was released on Youtube June 7th 2012, the bands emails were dated in January I think, then a few days ago I find this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bizarre-backstory-of-the-alleged-canadian-psycho-2012-6

This story came out 3 days ago, these emails look no different. Maybe a little i instead of a big I..signed Luka instead of Luka Magnotta, but from these emails, and there are a few, no bad spelling and such like that of what has been said here on this board. Is this story the work of a delusional narcissist as well? This is just my 2 cents, if these emails to Lithium Vandale are fake or true or whatever, Marilyn Manson made millions off a serial killer who made people kill a pregnant woman, with every band member having a famous serial killer name.

Its also a known fact about the video LM posted on Youtube about being a "serial killer cannibal" not long before the murder took place, the song Cannibal was placed on Youtube Sept 28th 2011. All this is so easy to find out. I will say, I think that the band has handled it well, by not getting money for this song, Cannibal. You cannot blame them.....

Now everyone can tear me to shreds...this is my first post and now have to see about getting this profile thing working. lol

zvzvzv
07-19-2012, 10:29 AM
Surfing the net and found this thread very interesting. I am new here and I have been following this LM sicko for sometime now. These emails to this band is old news, I seen those sometime ago, I however do feel like those were from him. I read on this board that someone has seen emails of LM and his grammar is bad and such, everyone talking about spell check and calling whoever Lithium Vandale is a delusional narcissist. Looking deeper than just spouting mental disorder labels, I find that the video from the band was released on Youtube June 7th 2012, the bands emails were dated in January I think, then a few days ago I find this:

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bizarre-backstory-of-the-alleged-canadian-psycho-2012-6

This story came out 3 days ago, these emails look no different. Maybe a little i instead of a big I..signed Luka instead of Luka Magnotta, but from these emails, and there are a few, no bad spelling and such like that of what has been said here on this board. Is this story the work of a delusional narcissist as well? This is just my 2 cents, if these emails to Lithium Vandale are fake or true or whatever, Marilyn Manson made millions off a serial killer who made people kill a pregnant woman, with every band member having a famous serial killer name.

Its also a known fact about the video LM posted on Youtube about being a "serial killer cannibal" not long before the murder took place, the song Cannibal was placed on Youtube Sept 28th 2011. All this is so easy to find out. I will say, I think that the band has handled it well, by not getting money for this song, Cannibal. You cannot blame them.....

Now everyone can tear me to shreds...this is my first post and now have to see about getting this profile thing working. lol

ha, not to 'tear you to shreds' but the Business Insider article was published over 1 month ago. (June 13th)
The lawyer himself posted in the comments that his info would be available to authorities. He is risking his reputation and business if his story doesn't prove to be true.
Lithium Vandale has nothing to lose, only publicity to gain. i don't believe he's sold any music. the website indicates the only way to purchase songs ($2 each) is by emailing him, he emails you payment options, you make payment, he confirms payment then emails you the mp3. all for music that's free on youtube. BTW youtube views are available for purchase $1 per 1000.
anyway, i always thought Marilyn Manson made millions off of a 1950's movie starlet who was rumored to be a mistress to JFK. :waitasec:

zvzvzv
07-19-2012, 03:43 PM
there was some discussion of the aunt LM claimed to have murdered.
there is a very believable quote from a family friend that checks out with the facts, the quote is on bestgore.
this friend says that her boyfriend was the killer & was serving time for it.
there is also a memorial webpage for this woman where a commenter names her murderer. Many of LM's family members have posted to this page, some under pseudonyms.
i will not link to this stuff for obvious reasons.
just putting out there; there's proof LM was lying about
murdering his aunt and defiling her corpse.
those are the facts,
my opinion is that he said these things
of course for shock value, but also to hurt his grandmother & cousins.

Sunday
07-19-2012, 03:57 PM
there was some discussion of the aunt LM claimed to have murdered.
there is a very believable quote from a family friend that checks out with the facts, the quote is on bestgore.
this friend says that her boyfriend was the killer & was serving time for it.
there is also a memorial webpage for this woman where a commenter names her murderer. Many of LM's family members have posted to this page, some under pseudonyms.
i will not link to this stuff for obvious reasons.
just putting out there; there's proof LM was lying about
murdering his aunt and defiling her corpse.
those are the facts,
my opinion is that he said these things
of course for shock value, but also to hurt his grandmother & cousins.
A hundred bucks says that there is in fact some sick video on the net that shows some unidentifiable person doing what he claims to have done. I'm just not willing to dig for it. Perhaps this is how he "hurt" the family, with this sick rumor?

Sunday
07-19-2012, 04:06 PM
(snip)

That's not all, I just read "50 shades of Luka" is now coined on the internet too!!! I think it was started by Lexa Mancini. I wonder if her obsession started cos they have the same intitials?!!!!! j/k
I thought that was a pseudonym? I think she came up with it because of the same initials, syllables, etc.

cherriejones88
07-19-2012, 04:58 PM
ha, not to 'tear you to shreds' but the Business Insider article was published over 1 month ago. (June 13th)
The lawyer himself posted in the comments that his info would be available to authorities. He is risking his reputation and business if his story doesn't prove to be true.
Lithium Vandale has nothing to lose, only publicity to gain. i don't believe he's sold any music. the website indicates the only way to purchase songs ($2 each) is by emailing him, he emails you payment options, you make payment, he confirms payment then emails you the mp3. all for music that's free on youtube. BTW youtube views are available for purchase $1 per 1000.
anyway, i always thought Marilyn Manson made millions off of a 1950's movie starlet who was rumored to be a mistress to JFK. :waitasec:

wow....you spout, but have no real facts about nothing.:floorlaugh:
I feel like after listening to his music, I find it very doubtful that this band has to buy views.:waitasec: looking at views you would thank it would be in the millions if they bought views. I think now that Google owns Youtube, they stop this fake views stuff anyhow.

I really do not know why I am replying to this, it just seems like you just know everything and your word is the word of God. I would love to hear what the band has to say..I have sent them email to these posts in hopes to see if they post. I am in hopes to hear a reply maybe.

So, tear me to shreds if you so wish, I am just stating what I see. My question to you is, do you feel better now:twocents:.

zvzvzv
07-19-2012, 05:33 PM
wow....you spout, but have no real facts about nothing.:floorlaugh:
I feel like after listening to his music, I find it very doubtful that this band has to buy views.:waitasec: looking at views you would thank it would be in the millions if they bought views. I think now that Google owns Youtube, they stop this fake views stuff anyhow.

I really do not know why I am replying to this, it just seems like you just know everything and your word is the word of God. I would love to hear what the band has to say..I have sent them email to these posts in hopes to see if they post. I am in hopes to hear a reply maybe.

So, tear me to shreds if you so wish, I am just stating what I see. My question to you is, do you feel better now:twocents:.

the 'tear you to shreds' bit was a joke, referring to my correction of the date of the Business Journal article.
i only wrote out the factors that led me to believe that the letters to the band are either manufactured, or at least that the messenger is untrustworthy based upon their online profile or of course both. anyone can agree or disagree.
we're just sharing information and ideas, nothing personal.

cherriejones88
07-19-2012, 05:50 PM
the 'tear you to shreds' bit was a joke, referring to my correction of the date of the Business Journal article.
i only wrote out the factors that led me to believe that the letters to the band are either manufactured, or at least that the messenger is untrustworthy based upon their online profile or of course both. anyone can agree or disagree.
we're just sharing information and ideas, nothing personal.

well then that's my bad, I quess. I am sorry for that then, I guess. I made a mistake on the date, but that does not mean anything? All of this bands news was still posted way before that article. You speak of online profile? I have done the same thing, and I do not understand what makes you think its not trust worthy? You mention on how the band gets payment for their songs, every band in the world does that and every band in the world is on Youtube? So, this just makes them untrustworthy? I am just trying to understand, you say factors, but I do not see them? So, now remember we can agree to disagree...

nursebeeme
07-19-2012, 08:12 PM
let us all get back to the case discussion....move on from the band and any links or copy and paste pertaining to it.

thanks

ToBeHonest
07-20-2012, 12:01 AM
there was some discussion of the aunt LM claimed to have murdered.
there is a very believable quote from a family friend that checks out with the facts, the quote is on bestgore.
this friend says that her boyfriend was the killer & was serving time for it.
there is also a memorial webpage for this woman where a commenter names her murderer. Many of LM's family members have posted to this page, some under pseudonyms.
i will not link to this stuff for obvious reasons.
just putting out there; there's proof LM was lying about
murdering his aunt and defiling her corpse.
those are the facts,
my opinion is that he said these things
of course for shock value, but also to hurt his grandmother & cousins.

I agree with what you say about hurting family. I hypothesize that when it's been rumored they cut him off, that may have been when he started this and the incest-with-his-sister stories online, as well as the one about sleeping with his stepmother. If you put all of those together (I would love to check dates to see if they were all posted around the same time since he seemed to go on binges) it could be his concerted effort to get back at his family for alienating him.

zvzvzv
07-20-2012, 08:24 PM
I agree with what you say about hurting family. I hypothesize that when it's been rumored they cut him off, that may have been when he started this and the incest-with-his-sister stories online, as well as the one about sleeping with his stepmother. If you put all of those together (I would love to check dates to see if they were all posted around the same time since he seemed to go on binges) it could be his concerted effort to get back at his family for alienating him.

in August 2008 he posted about fathering his sisters child (8/25) & an affair with his stepmother (8/21).
postings about the aunt seem to start in may 2012.
the first two are about a month after his birthday
(forgot to send a card eh?) by May 2012 he was bent
on destroying everyone who ever gave him a chance.
my opinion of course.

sinwonderland
07-20-2012, 10:05 PM
Sometimes I wonder if he did all of this to make his family suffer.

ToBeHonest
07-20-2012, 10:25 PM
ToBeHonest did you just coin the term "Luka Fan Culture"... Yuck, almost feel like I need to shower reading it but unfortunately it's a sad reality...

Reading all these articles about Magnotta's "obsessed female fans" is so bizarre-- and now my advice for Magnotta's female fans:

Ladies that fall into this niche category: if you want to be a fruit fly, queen bee, homo honey, flame dame or whatever you want to call it; the gay community welcomes you. But a word of advice, even if he wasn't charged with these horrors, you might want to choose a gay friend who doesn't spend 23 hours each day on the computer and actually does fun real world things. Now let's add the horrific crimes to the mix, you might want to consider he might be a touch crazy-- not that fun kinda crazy but the kinda crazy that doesn't end in good natured laughter. Now stop being silly geese yearning for the phone to ring and Magnotta singing a Lionel Richie song to you; it's never going to happen. Instead maybe volunteer at a soup kitchen, work for a charitable cause dear to your heart or anything other than making macaroni art Magnotta's and idolizing him the same way 10 year old girls do with Justin Bieber...

I guess I did create that term (TM). :)

HastingsChi
07-20-2012, 10:29 PM
Sometimes I wonder if he did all of this to make his family suffer.

I doubt he cared about his family, they were a means to an end in many ways-- one of his methods to try to trick or guilt folks into caring about him was to use these unverified tales of abuse to humanize himself and try to gain compassion from others. Magnotta only cares about one person and everything he has done or will do is solely to benefit him.



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claudicici
07-21-2012, 06:03 AM
...but it again shows this love/hate relationship he has for himself.
Claiming to sleep with his sister,stepmom and his dead aunt's corpse isn't exactly going to get him much sympathy.

HastingsChi
07-21-2012, 11:36 AM
...but it again shows this love/hate relationship he has for himself.
Claiming to sleep with his sister,stepmom and his dead aunt's corpse isn't exactly going to get him much sympathy.

Depends on who the audience was for his drivel; depending on his motive each time he shared his tall tales he could have garnered sympathy by playing the victim or, in certain circles of similar twisted taboo losers he could have used these tall tales to impress and titillate.


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Dane
07-22-2012, 12:50 PM
... this now ranks as my all time favorite posting. Free chuckles included.
HastingsChi, you're a darling.
*muah*



ToBeHonest did you just coin the term "Luka Fan Culture"... Yuck, almost feel like I need to shower reading it but unfortunately it's a sad reality...

Reading all these articles about Magnotta's "obsessed female fans" is so bizarre-- and now my advice for Magnotta's female fans:

Ladies that fall into this niche category: if you want to be a fruit fly, queen bee, homo honey, flame dame or whatever you want to call it; the gay community welcomes you. But a word of advice, even if he wasn't charged with these horrors, you might want to choose a gay friend who doesn't spend 23 hours each day on the computer and actually does fun real world things. Now let's add the horrific crimes to the mix, you might want to consider he might be a touch crazy-- not that fun kinda crazy but the kinda crazy that doesn't end in good natured laughter. Now stop being silly geese yearning for the phone to ring and Magnotta singing a Lionel Richie song to you; it's never going to happen. Instead maybe volunteer at a soup kitchen, work for a charitable cause dear to your heart or anything other than making macaroni art Magnotta's and idolizing him the same way 10 year old girls do with Justin Bieber...

RiverRat
08-18-2012, 02:16 PM
What is the connection with Jon Mark Karr, the false confessor in the JonBenet Ramsey homicide?!

I just literally stumbled across all this, not the video nor do I ever want to. It was originally associated with the "alexisvaloranreich" account. When I googled that name, it comes up with John Mark Karr! Is it just THAT is who Magnotta adores???

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Alexis_Valoran_Reich

Disgusting.

Craig
12-24-2012, 11:56 AM
hi i am confused by this wondering if anyone on here has covered it before

this blog looks like typical of him, first entry talks about the icepick murder weeks before the victim was dead

http://andrea0yourkin0loschiavo.wordpress.com/

back in May 15th.

but then the person continues blogging about luka after Luka has been arrested, linking him to other murders

who is this person and how did they know?

sillybilly
12-28-2012, 03:04 PM
hi i am confused by this wondering if anyone on here has covered it before

this blog looks like typical of him, first entry talks about the icepick murder weeks before the victim was dead

http://andrea0yourkin0loschiavo.wordpress.com/

back in May 15th.

but then the person continues blogging about luka after Luka has been arrested, linking him to other murders

who is this person and how did they know?

I'm confused Craig ... i've been to the blog you linked to and don't see that any of the posts are dated. The archive only starts June 2012. Where are you seeing the May date discussion?

Craig
12-29-2012, 03:59 PM
http://i.imgur.com/t4nqT.jpg

very strange, only the killer could have been hyping the video up before the murder even happened. We know this video wasn't really "floating around the deep web" on May 15th, Jun Lin was alive. So how has this person continued to post, linking Luka to other murders, long after Luka has been arrested? Any suggestions?

GoBrewers
12-31-2012, 03:39 AM
http://i.imgur.com/t4nqT.jpg

very strange, only the killer could have been hyping the video up before the murder even happened. We know this video wasn't really "floating around the deep web" on May 15th, Jun Lin was alive. So how has this person continued to post, linking Luka to other murders, long after Luka has been arrested? Any suggestions?

Could have been a different post on may 15th, then edited, but that is doubtful. Only plausible deal would be the girl who "knew" him, or one of the big fanatics on the web who defend him entirely, even with evidence provided. Wonder how they will figure this one out, honestly.

Silverlona
01-01-2013, 12:01 PM
The post dates can be manipulated.

HastingsChi
01-02-2013, 08:28 AM
hi i am confused by this wondering if anyone on here has covered it before

this blog looks like typical of him, first entry talks about the icepick murder weeks before the victim was dead

http://andrea0yourkin0loschiavo.wordpress.com/

back in May 15th.

but then the person continues blogging about luka after Luka has been arrested, linking him to other murders

who is this person and how did they know?

Craig, he was actually posting months before the murder about the alleged upcoming video with the salacious details of what the viewer might expect. If you review the numbered discussion threads we discussed this at length and went back and forth for days trying to figure out this and might the murder have been carried out before we originally believed. Our conclusion was that the murder date is accurate but Magnotta likely developed a detailed plan that would allow him to fulfill his most desired fantasy in a way that would allow him to be satisfied in every way beyond his wildest dreams. The sexual fantasy that resulted in an innocent man's murder is something that Magnotta likely had been fantasizing about for years and revising many times. Also some folks feel that the earlier postings might have been made at times that he thought he might have found a potential victim that never materialized.

Craig
01-04-2013, 11:58 AM
Craig, he was actually posting months before the murder about the alleged upcoming video with the salacious details of what the viewer might expect. If you review the numbered discussion threads we discussed this at length and went back and forth for days trying to figure out this and might the murder have been carried out before we originally believed. Our conclusion was that the murder date is accurate but Magnotta likely developed a detailed plan that would allow him to fulfill his most desired fantasy in a way that would allow him to be satisfied in every way beyond his wildest dreams. The sexual fantasy that resulted in an innocent man's murder is something that Magnotta likely had been fantasizing about for years and revising many times. Also some folks feel that the earlier postings might have been made at times that he thought he might have found a potential victim that never materialized.


Yes I understand all of that and I'm aware of what he was posting leading up to the murder, but the person who appears to have posted it on May 15th on that blog, is still posting, and not locked up. (not Luka)

HastingsChi
01-04-2013, 04:59 PM
Yes I understand all of that and I'm aware of what he was posting leading up to the murder, but the person who appears to have posted it on May 15th on that blog, is still posting, and not locked up. (not Luka)

Going off of my memory from our original threads, I recall that magnotta had posted the details of the snuff film murder and subsequent cannibalistic actions (which had not yet occurred) on numerous blogs he managed, message boards/forums and other odd locations throughout the web. I remember these posts on various message boards/forums generating fluid discussion. With that in mind I'd note the countless trolls pretending to be Magnotta and endlessly posting misinformation from the time that the video was posted on that Not the Best Al Gore site and continuing until after his arrest. Which leads me to this conclusion: one of these trolls saw the viral-potential in copying and pasting Magnotta's initial pre-crime details, then when the crime was discovered and Magnotta was THE global news story, that troll just continued his or her postings to this day because his or her life is so fulfilling, he or she needs to pretend to be someone else-- this person is no different than a 300 pound, 50 year old man pretending to be a sexy 18 year old girl in a Prodigy chat room in the mid-90's...

GoBrewers
01-07-2013, 09:33 AM
Going off of my memory from our original threads, I recall that magnotta had posted the details of the snuff film murder and subsequent cannibalistic actions (which had not yet occurred) on numerous blogs he managed, message boards/forums and other odd locations throughout the web. I remember these posts on various message boards/forums generating fluid discussion. With that in mind I'd note the countless trolls pretending to be Magnotta and endlessly posting misinformation from the time that the video was posted on that Not the Best Al Gore site and continuing until after his arrest. Which leads me to this conclusion: one of these trolls saw the viral-potential in copying and pasting Magnotta's initial pre-crime details, then when the crime was discovered and Magnotta was THE global news story, that troll just continued his or her postings to this day because his or her life is so fulfilling, he or she needs to pretend to be someone else-- this person is no different than a 300 pound, 50 year old man pretending to be a sexy 18 year old girl in a Prodigy chat room in the mid-90's...

Honestly that is only one of a million options, and IMO far from likely. This person at least is intelligent enough to do the background researching and posting on it to just be trolling for attention, as it appears the site isnt getting much as is. JMO, it's someone into the scene that he is in, who probably views it as artistic, or feels LM was setup, when really it was his only way to claim fame.:jail:

Prodigy chat room, haha i was one of the teens in there laughing in the 90s while random pedos and creeps would come on to get insulted. Good times.

HastingsChi
01-07-2013, 02:00 PM
Honestly that is only one of a million options, and IMO far from likely. This person at least is intelligent enough to do the background researching and posting on it to just be trolling for attention, as it appears the site isnt getting much as is. JMO, it's someone into the scene that he is in, who probably views it as artistic, or feels LM was setup, when really it was his only way to claim fame.:jail:

Prodigy chat room, haha i was one of the teens in there laughing in the 90s while random pedos and creeps would come on to get insulted. Good times.

Yeah as a child of the 90s those chat rooms were not fun- in those days before digital pics or web cams it was so easy to be fooled; I actually had a creepy old, fat phone stalker to deal with for years because of my ignorance (he apparently wasn't the same age as me).

As far as the other part of your reply: I'm close to Magnotta's age, gay, have dated guys with Magnotta-like similarities (minus the killing and cannibalism) and have followed the case close enough from the start that if I had the time, desire and no social life/real world life I think I could easily create a online persona that people would swear was being written by Magnotta.

If you've dated a pathological liar who is convinced his fabricated life details are true then it's quite easy to get inside Magnotta's mind.

ElleElle
07-17-2013, 06:46 PM
Why is the site taken down? "Corrupting morals"?
Ha! Sure, our society is already corrupt.

Mrs G Norris
07-17-2013, 06:50 PM
Hi Elle :seeya: let's hang out here until the trial, this is such and interesting case!

matou
07-17-2013, 07:28 PM
I might get flack for this but I don't think he should be charged for posting the video on Bestgore. From what I remember he wasn't sure that the video was real and the first comments were asking the same thing. LM was outed on there. Many WSers watched the video, including myself (up until I saw the icepick). We sleuthed info from the video, as did the animal activists. I mean no disrespect for Lin Jun. I watched to see if he was alive at the beginning of the video and found out he was. I was horrified. My morals are not corrupted. People knowingly post child porn every second on this planet. I believe those people should be flown permanently to Mars.
Sorry if I've offended anyone. JMO

Morbida
07-19-2013, 11:19 AM
I might get flack for this but I don't think he should be charged for posting the video on Bestgore. From what I remember he wasn't sure that the video was real and the first comments were asking the same thing. LM was outed on there. Many WSers watched the video, including myself (up until I saw the icepick). We sleuthed info from the video, as did the animal activists. I mean no disrespect for Lin Jun. I watched to see if he was alive at the beginning of the video and found out he was. I was horrified. My morals are not corrupted. People knowingly post child porn every second on this planet. I believe those people should be flown permanently to Mars.
Sorry if I've offended anyone. JMO

Agreed. Was just about to post the same thing.

There's also a double standard here. There are tons of these gore sites, many of which are still hosting the video. This one may have been the first to upload it, but it was taken down not long after the news broke over a year ago. So, why is it being singled out? Unless there's more to this than what's been reported.

Fairy
10-19-2014, 01:16 AM
Some links regarding LM's trolling of the (now closed) Karla Homolka forum, WKH.

It appears that LM was involved in some kind of Internet drama involving the owner of the site: http://wkh2012.proboards.com/thread/265/luka-magnottas-obsession-wkh

He created some blogs on the subject:
http://watching-karla-homolka-yuku.blogspot.ca/
http://crazy-obsessed-fans.blogspot.ca/2011/08/jennifer-foster-obsessed-karla-homolka.html (I believe LM is also commenting as "61george", "neutralopinion" and "rene" - interesting to note that one of the packages he sent had Rene Bordelais as a return address)

A Rip-off Report:
http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Jennifer-Jen-Foster-Hamilton/Hamilton-Ontario-/Jennifer-Jen-Foster-Hamilton-Watchingkarlahomolka-jenn-jen-foster-Hamilton-Ontario-798028 ("Trina" and "Kristina Horton" also appear to be LM)

And a Scam Report:
http://www.scamexposure.com/scam-report/jennifer-jen-foster-hamilton-watchingkarlahomolka-jenn-c85164.html (includes this gem, amongst others: "One last thing, she posts videos of herself and talks to herself by creating fake accounts, so beware of this lunatic.")

Unfortunately, as the forum that the drama unfolded on is now closed, it is difficult to find out the details about what happened over there.


ETA: I also found this blog that looks like one of LM's - http://karla-homolka-homolka-karla--news-201.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/jennifer-foster-watching-karla-homolka.html - but the posting date is October 30th, 2012.

So I had a look to see how easy it is to manipulate a date on a blog and it is very simple. You can also set a date and schedule posts to go out automatically. This may explain the blogging after his arrest here:
http://andrea0yourkin0loschiavo.wordpress.com/

I wonder if that is what he's done and if there are any more blog entries scheduled to be published? Perhaps he thought he might be on the run for longer and this would confuse police?

Little Jedi
10-19-2014, 11:28 AM
^^ Rip-Off-Report ^^

These posts are VERY interesting due to the time/date !


Complaint Review: Luka Magnotta Bisexual Male Model and Porn Actor

Submitted: Thu, May 24, 2012
Updated: Fri, May 25, 2012

- Reported By: Mario Fucatti

Luka Magnotta is an extremely dangerous and sick psychopath, he is incapable of feeling remorse and only thinks about how situations benefit himself.
He is a sadistic, manipulative psychopath with an IQ of 145 which makes him even more dangerous.

He apparently speaks three languages and is educated in Psychology and Criminal Law. He travels between Moscow, Los Angeles and New York his whereabouts are currently unknown.

Psychopaths can appear very charming and look beautiful, but beware , they are cunning and highly maniacal.

The Rebuttal


Updates & Rebuttals #1

UPDATE Employee Re Luka Magnotta

AUTHOR: Tony Luciforia -

SUBMITTED: Friday, May 25, 2012

I sincerely believe the majority of people who are " looking for Luka " are not interested in the cats or his alleged victims.

I strongly believe they are obsessed with everything Luka and just cant get enough of him.

From what I've read it seems that both the 'complaint' & replies were both Magnotta himself :dunno:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Luka-Magnotta-Bisexual-Male-Model-and-Porn-Actor/New-York-New-York-10001/Luka-Magnotta-Bisexual-Male-Model-and-Porn-Actor-Luka-Magnotta-Male-Model-Luka-Magnotta-Ma-887359