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imamaze
12-13-2010, 02:04 PM
Threadiquette - Questions about rules welcome here
Name Variations and Name calling
Please do not alter the names of anyone discussed in this case, except appropriate abbreviations.Derogatory name changes, or any kind of name change is not acceptable.
Name calling is not allowed.
If you have any questions about what is ok to post, please ask, you can check at the bottom of the page for a Mod on this particlular forum, we are all happy to help out and answer your questions. Glad to have you all here!!!
Kimster
05-23-2012, 06:57 PM
We are going to utilize this thread for questions and concerns - mainly in the Allison Baden-Clay thread, but if you have other concerns you'd like to ask a mod about, feel free to jump in.
:tyou:
This thread will only be open when there is a mod that has time to monitor posts. If it is closed, check back later for when it is open again.
Cheers!
Just saw this after I posted, thank you.
Can you tell me about how we can be discussing people by name on forums, without any arrest being made or substantiated rumours, as far as defamation goes. I can't find a straight forward answer anywhere as it applies to Australia. Thanks in anticipation.
SoSueMe
05-23-2012, 07:25 PM
We can't answer as to the laws of Australia, but in the U.S., it is my understanding that yes, members could very well be subject to a defamation lawsuit if a party is damaged by words they write on a public forum. Members own their words, so we always encourage our members to use caution and post responsibly.
Kimster
05-23-2012, 07:26 PM
Use your links folks! Make sure you aren't the source of rumors! :kimsterwink:
Thank you. I assumed that would be the case.
marlywings
05-23-2012, 07:51 PM
As this is an American forum...I wonder if this would be out of Australia's jurisdiction??
Would it be ok to ask Hawkins this question on main thread??
Kimster
05-23-2012, 07:59 PM
Hawkins is not a verified poster. Whatever you want to ask privately is up to you, but please do not consider any unverified poster to be a professional and post professional questions to them on the thread.
Here's the guidelines on becoming a professional poster on Websleuths:
If you would like to be verified as a professional poster, such as an insider/local, doctor, lawyer, chemist, or whatever your profession, then please do the following:
Email Websleuths at : wsverify@xmission.com
In your email please include:
*The case
*Your Websleuths name
*Your real name
*Your phone number and a good time to call
In the subject line put either the case you are interested in or the profession you wish to verify.
marlywings
05-23-2012, 08:02 PM
Ok..thanks Kimster
Kimster
05-23-2012, 08:04 PM
BTW, here's a link to our master list of professional posters:
Professional Posters & Verified Locals / Insiders *MAIN PAGE* - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
linette
05-24-2012, 12:49 AM
Hi Kimster. Just wondering... if a poster asks if they were correct in thinking another poster had mentioned something a day or two ago etc... are we allowed to confirm that we also read that? It would be too hard for us all to remember exactly who posted what and what day... just curious as some have asked for links when we are only trying to confirm that, yes, a poster did say that. Thankyou for your help :)
PS: I mean the person asking for the link, isn't the person who asked someone to confirm it in the first place.
Kimster
05-24-2012, 12:59 AM
Hi Kimster. Just wondering... if a poster asks if they were correct in thinking another poster had mentioned something a day or two ago etc... are we allowed to confirm that we also read that? It would be too hard for us all to remember exactly who posted what and what day... just curious as some have asked for links when we are only trying to confirm that, yes, a poster did say that. Thankyou for your help :)
PS: I mean the person asking for the link, isn't the person who asked someone to confirm it in the first place.
It really is a good idea to find the post and link to it because I've seen in Allison's case on at least 3 occasions where someone said "XYZ" said something and then XYZ comes back and says "no, I didn't say it, UVW said it!"
What I do to find someone's post is click on their name in one of their posts and go to "Find All Posts by...." and then look for the post I want to discuss.
linette
05-24-2012, 01:16 AM
Thankyou Kimster. What if someone isn't asking WHO actually posted it, just that it was said? :) Sorry, I don't mean to be a menace.
Kimster
05-24-2012, 01:26 AM
Thankyou Kimster. What if someone isn't asking WHO actually posted it, just that it was said? :) Sorry, I don't mean to be a menace.
It really depends on the topic. If someone is trying to verify a fact, it shouldn't be too hard to find a link by doing a Google or looking at this thread: www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7940739
Kimster
05-24-2012, 02:13 AM
Thread will reopen in about 8 hours.
linette
05-24-2012, 05:53 PM
Good morning!! :) This probably isn't the right place to ask this... but for some reason I can't use the delete post feature. I can do everything up until I click 'delete' then it does nothing. {the final 'delete', after you have clicked everything else.}It comes up on the bottom as "error on page". Just wondering if it might be a computer problem, or something that can be corrected on the site? Thankyou heaps!! :)
Kimster
05-24-2012, 07:42 PM
This is the perfect place to ask. :hug:
The delete feature only lasts for a certain period of time. After than, you need to alert the post you'd like deleted and the mods see if it's okay. The reason is that sometimes a deleted post can upset the information on the thread too much, but it doesn't' happen that often.
linette
05-26-2012, 04:09 AM
This is the perfect place to ask. :hug:
The delete feature only lasts for a certain period of time. After than, you need to alert the post you'd like deleted and the mods see if it's okay. The reason is that sometimes a deleted post can upset the information on the thread too much, but it doesn't' happen that often.
Thanks.. It's usually as soon as I have posted that I see someone has posted the same thing and I try to delete. So , within about 2 minutes from posting?
Barram5
05-29-2012, 03:42 PM
Good morning ... My question is about posts on closed threads can we repost into new threads if it is of interest to others for their comments
summer_breeze
05-29-2012, 03:47 PM
Good morning ... My question is about posts on closed threads can we repost into new threads if it is of interest to others for their comments
Hi Barram5,
Yes, you certainly can, as long as it is relevant to the thread you are posting in, and is not information/posts that have been unapproved in the past for TOS violations.
Hope this helps!
~Summer
Blue Bottle
06-03-2012, 09:43 PM
Not sure if this thread is the place for this question or if there is a more appropriate thread to ask this.... but I have noticed some members have the user title Inactive under their name and was wondering what that means.
Thanks
Kimster
06-03-2012, 09:44 PM
Not sure if this thread is the place for this question or if there is a more appropriate thread to ask this.... but I have noticed some members have the user title Inactive under their name and was wondering what that means.
Thanks
That means the member asked that their account with Websleuths be closed for one reason or another.
Kimster
06-03-2012, 09:45 PM
Thanks.. It's usually as soon as I have posted that I see someone has posted the same thing and I try to delete. So , within about 2 minutes from posting?
I thought it was a bit longer than that? :waitasec:
Kimster
06-04-2012, 10:36 AM
I've just finished looking over last night's activity on Allison's thread and have some comments.
First, thank you for having a lively debate without berating each other. There were only a couple of posts that needed to be removed. Someone had an opposing view compared to the majority's consensus and she stayed focused and most of the time everyone else replied by addressing the case and not the poster personally. Cheers!
There were some posts removed that were about the posters in general, no one specific was named. I want to remind everyone that this is a DISCUSSION board. Not a board where someone posts their thoughts and then everyone has to agree. We don't have to agree and we can say why we don't agree, as long as we don't get personal about it. If we were sitting in the police station, we would probably hear the same conversation between detectives as they try to sort out what happened in a crime. It's called "brainstorming" and we can all learn during the process.
These two topics need to stay in your back pockets and off the board: comments about other posters (their opinions, posting styles, motives, nicknames, underwear, and everything else!) and moderation (just getting off a time out, staying out of jail, etc.) Those are two topics that will cause you to lose your posting privileges!
Thank you. I DO try you know :).
Kimster
06-05-2012, 10:51 PM
There was a question about people wanting to meet in real life. Please review Websleuths policy:
Posting Personal Contact Information (Address / Phone Number):
Members may not post personal contact information such as home address, work address, home telephone number, work telephone number, etc., in the public forums. ANYONE, including guests to WS, can read the public forums - this policy is in place for YOUR safety and protection.
Contacting other members to meet in Real Life:
While members are always free to contact each other to meet in person, via telephone, or in other ways, Websleuths will in no way be responsible for any actions or events arising from such contact. Websleuths staff does not read or otherwise monitor Private Messages and has no way to monitor private emails, telephone calls or other such communications. It is up to each individual member to decide if they desire such contact and the resultant loss of anonymity. Websleuths neither condemns nor condones such meetings and it is up to the individual members to decide if they wish to get together.
Rules Etiquette & Information - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
Hello. :)
A question (and I hope I'm asking this in the right place). I'm following the Allison Baden-Clay case. I've seen mention of "verified insiders" and I'm wondering what exactly this means. The reason I'm asking is I want to know what kind of weight to put on statements made by them. Are they just people who live locally and can verify they live in the area? Are they more than that. For example: they can verify that someone close to them is a member of the investigating team. Or can a "verified insider" be as simple as someone whose (for example) children attend the same school as the Baden-Clay girls?
Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. :)
Kimster
06-06-2012, 10:01 AM
A verified insider is someone who knows the family or immediate friend(s) of someone named in the case in one way or another. It means they "could" be getting true information about the case that hasn't been disclosed in the media. However, their information is only as true as the family/friend who is disclosing it to them.
It's hard for me to get specific because WS will not disclose the type of relationship. If the verified insider discloses it, we will only step in if it's not the same information they told us during the verification process.
Bear in mind that the verification process isn't foolproof. We'd have to fly to Australia and check it out ourselves and that isn't going to happen. This process has helped get rid of "trolls" in the past, however, and that's why we do what we do.
Hope that makes sense!
Makes sense. Thanks very much, Kimster :)
Kimster
07-12-2012, 10:25 PM
We do not discuss psychic issues on Websleuths. That includes tarot, astrology, visions, etc. This is not new. I've posted many times that we don't discuss dreams/visons/psychics on Websleuths. There are many sites out there for that sort of thing and we are not one of them.
In addition, Summer_Breeze is the point mod in Allison's subforum. If she doesn't know an answer to one of your questions, she will ask administration and get the answer. If anyone here wants to give her a bad time about that, I'm going to get grumpy and pull out the ray gun. Summer wants to be your moderator and deserves to be treated with respect for all the hours she volunteers here because she really likes you guys.
:cheers:
Kimster
07-30-2012, 03:22 PM
Complaints about the Websleuths member verification process need to be brought up to the owners: Tricia and/or SoSueMe. You can email them at wbsleuth@xmission.com
Anyone who chooses to continue to complain about it on the forum is subject to a time out without warning. It's distracting to the case and disruptive to the forum.
Dr. Know?
08-05-2012, 01:31 AM
Oh, got it and removed my question, I hope everyone else does. Didn't know that you were a mod Christee. Thanks.
minni
08-05-2012, 02:47 AM
Just flew in from parts unknown. :ufo:
In answer to your questions....
1) This thread is for off topic posts that don't have anything to do with Allison's case
2) This thread is still subject to WS rules and TOS. If there are posts that the mods can't understand, then we put our own interpretation on them. Some appeared to have language that is not allowed on WS. We don't have time to ask what all the words mean, so the mods just remove the posts that don't make sense. Plus, it can make some members feel they can't join in if they don't understand it
3) If you have questions about moderator decisions, you can contact a mod privately OR you can ask your questions in the Threadiquette thread: Threadiquette- Questions about rules welcome here - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178136)
:cheers:
thanks Kimmi, that does help me understand some of the posts.
but much of it I still dont understand. for example:
quote: Plus, it can make some members feel they can't join in if they don't understand it unquote
this I dont get. If someone posts about subjudice, or hair banding, or personality disorders, I dont understand it, and it isnt removed. But I ask questions and get involved. Half the discussion on the main thread I don't understand.
On the chit chat thread, I wasn't aware that the topic of discussion was screened, and had limitations, other than being pg rated, obviously. I know bugger all about dogs, even though I have one. I know nothing about boats either. I really would appreciate the terms to be more specific as I am unable to understand them. thanks
Im not querying a moderator decision, I am doing the same as other posters and asking some questions, just as the lovely Kimster happily responded to as she said in her opening comment.
minni
08-05-2012, 02:58 AM
thanks for moving my post...can someone please answer it?
Kimster
08-05-2012, 03:00 AM
First of all, questions about how things are moderated belong in a private conversation or here, in the Threadiquette thread. :)
Second, you can ask about case posts all you want. If you have a question about it, then probably someone else does. But to make up words is entirely different. Modding for crime cases is what we do. Spending time modding word variations in chit chat threads is not. WS doesn't normally allow chit chat threads at all. This has been an exception and for the most part, we don't really care what you guys post in there. But when we can't even understand if the posts are WS violations or not, that's not going to work out.
Kimster
08-05-2012, 03:00 AM
thanks for moving my post...can someone please answer it?
Be patient.
I'm headed off to the pillows now. :offtobed:
minni
08-05-2012, 03:03 AM
Be patient.
I'm headed off to the pillows now. :offtobed:
Thanks Kimster, I am trying. Thanks for your post prior to this one too. Am I right in saying that this is a bit of a grey area as its not something you normallydo (a chit chat thread) so the rules might not be really clear? I can understand this situation a lot better knowing this
Kimster
08-05-2012, 03:06 AM
Thanks Kimster, I am trying. Thanks for your post prior to this one too. Am I right in saying that this is a bit of a grey area as its not something you normallydo (a chit chat thread) so the rules might not be really clear? I can understand this situation a lot better knowing this
Right. WS doesn't normally do them because the mods are busy enough with the crime cases and shouldn't have to spend a ton of time in non-case threads. That's the thought behind it.
:seeya:
minni
08-06-2012, 11:26 PM
Guys it's all starting to go off topic again...please stick to the topic.
There's no evidence to date which mentions GBC has any type of mental disorder, so please stay off that as well.
Marly, most of these posts you mention have been removed, yet some are still standing....how is this process moderated? can we talk about mental illness or not? Im unsure of how to proceed
:waitasec:
minni
08-06-2012, 11:57 PM
Marly, I dont understand why some members have different rules? AM I wrong in thinking this? I am following your request to stay away form mental disorders and thought your comment was directed at all forum/thread members?
marlywings
08-06-2012, 11:59 PM
As has been stated in the past by Kimster, there is no evidence to date which mentions GBC has any type of mental disorder. All members were asked to refrain from discussing this.
marlywings
08-07-2012, 12:00 AM
Marly, I dont understand why some members have different rules? AM I wrong in thinking this? I am following your request to stay away form mental disorders and thought your comment was directed at all forum/thread members?
Yes correct...it was directed at all members in Allison's thread.
LauraMars
08-07-2012, 12:02 AM
I don't get it either. Most of these threads are full of rumours, speculation, and a little off topic stuff. If that was all removed, there were be almost nothing left.
I don't get the rumour thing at all. Why are some posts, eg. GBC possibly being gay, allowed to remain in the main thread, yet posts about diet etc are removed from even the chat thread?
Every time I look the page numbers are diminishing.
LauraMars
08-07-2012, 12:11 AM
We've had threads and threads and threads discussing various personality disorders - Kimster herself even gave us links to discussions/radio shows etc on Sociopathy. As far as I remember she never said don't discuss it.
Have the rules changed?
marlywings
08-07-2012, 12:12 AM
I don't get it either. Most of these threads are full of rumours, speculation, and a little off topic stuff. If that was all removed, there were be almost nothing left.
I don't get the rumour thing at all. Why are some posts, eg. GBC possibly being gay, allowed to remain in the main thread, yet posts about diet etc are removed from even the chat thread?
Every time I look the page numbers are diminishing.
Clarifying what to do about rumours...if you have questions about those please ask them in the following thread. Any further questions in this thread Kimster will answer.
Clarifying what to do about rumors - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
minni
08-07-2012, 12:20 AM
Yes correct...it was directed at all members in Allison's thread.
I dont understand why there is still a post up with information regarding metal disorders.
marlywings
08-07-2012, 12:23 AM
I dont understand why there is still a post up with information regarding metal disorders.
If you have a problem with a post please use the alert button
Kimster
08-07-2012, 01:47 AM
We have never allowed rumors on Websleuths. I've said this over and over again. This is nothing new! The issue we had before is that we didn't have a moderator to help us in the wee hours of the night. That's why we asked Marlywings to help us. Because we couldn't keep on top of all the problems. We would wake up to dozens of alerts every.single.morning. The rules were being broken on a constant basis and by the time we were up and ready to help, most of you were in bed.
This may seem like it's all new to some of you, but this is just normal to Websleuths. We don't do rumors. If you want to speculate, that is fine. Saying someone could very well be a sociopath is normal speculation because most men who kill their wives are found to be sociopaths. Do all sociopaths kill? No. http://www.youmeworks.com/sociopaths.html
That's just one example of speculation vs. rumor. Please don't make this harder than it is. Just use common sense. And feel free to read the forum rules: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Rules Etiquette & Information
Kimster
03-12-2013, 09:48 AM
Marlywings was a busy one last night as she fielded quite a few alerts asking about negative comments regarding law enforcement. I've reviewed the posts and am ready to give my final decision.
The links that were shared did not give me an inkling of an idea as to how a problem with law enforcement and the media share in not presenting the truth about this case. Unless such evidence is given, please stop posting about corrupt police and/or media.
If this is a true concern that you feel needs to be shared, please start a post about it in the Political Pavilian. You will need a link there about the topic in your first post. Here is a link to the PP: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
If you see any more posts about this topic, please alert them for Marlywings to remove and do not respond to them on the thread. If the issue of posters derailing the thread and other posters continuing to take matters into their own own hands via posting in response continues, time outs will be issued. That's not fun. :notgood:
Flinders
04-04-2013, 01:37 AM
My question is I am 2 days in thought behind the flow of comments in the discussion. I go back and post my links to support the comments but it always seems to feel like I am posting from left field. As an experienced Mod, how to posters keep the flow on the main stream without alienating others with their posts?
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