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fhc
03-30-2013, 07:47 PM
This one is bothersome

http://www.kfvs12.com/story/21836106/crews-search-for-missing-woman-on-saturday

Ferris is in her 50s and described as 5'6" with brown hair and green eyes.

She was last seen wearing a white Hollister hoodie with gold letters and blue jeans.

Held says Ferris last seen on 27th and Park Ave. in Cairo on Thursday around 2 p.m.

https://www.facebook.com/kfvs12

poster said her name should be FArris

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/cairo-il/T2HH615JFTH0AFJHS

marycarney
03-30-2013, 07:51 PM
Interesting comments in the topix link.

There is precious little information in any of the sources.

fhc
03-30-2013, 08:39 PM
http://www.wsiltv.com/news/local/Authorities-Search-For-Missing-Cairo-Woman-200743551.html?m=y&smobile=y

55-year-old Sandra Farris

Authorities say Farris went missing around 27th street and Park Avenue in Cairo sometime between 2 p.m.- 2:30 p.m. Thursday, during her daily walks.

fhc
03-31-2013, 01:48 PM
Dangerous town to walk around in???

Her brother, Kenny Farris, disappeared walking in town in Oct 2010 and was never found.

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13471171

marycarney
03-31-2013, 02:53 PM
Wow- that CANNOT be a coincidence!!!!

margarita25
03-31-2013, 03:32 PM
Dangerous town to walk around in???

Her brother, Kenny Farris, disappeared walking in town in Oct 2010 and was never found.

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13471171

"His sister says he was last seen walking near the 37th Street levy in Cairo. His sister says he suffers from depression and is on nerve medicine.

She also says her brother has never disappeared like this before."

Wonder if maybe she found something out about her brother's disappearance?

So, they disappeared 10 blocks away (27th and 37th) from each other? This is really weird.

KinseyWannabe
03-31-2013, 03:57 PM
Hey--wasn't there another instance of a second family member disappearing mysteriously years after the first? I think the relationship was father and son though IIRC.

marycarney
03-31-2013, 05:55 PM
I know way back there was a mother-daughter. And isn't there a second disappearance with the Stacy Peterson case?

inthedark14
03-31-2013, 06:25 PM
I know way back there was a mother-daughter. And isn't there a second disappearance with the Stacy Peterson case?

Yes, it's her mother that is also missing...

LotusPawprint
03-31-2013, 10:54 PM
"His sister says he was last seen walking near the 37th Street levy in Cairo. His sister says he suffers from depression and is on nerve medicine.

She also says her brother has never disappeared like this before."

Wonder if maybe she found something out about her brother's disappearance?

So, they disappeared 10 blocks away (27th and 37th) from each other? This is really weird.

Um... and look at this:

" Police in Cairo are concerned about a man who has been missing since October 28."

He went missing on the 28th of the month.

She went missing on the 28th of the month.


Weird indeed.

LotusPawprint
04-01-2013, 12:30 AM
I found her daughter's FB page, she has a few posts about mom being missing w/some interesting comments. I can't remember if I can link to her page.


Also, if you do a search for Sandra's name + "topix", there are a number of hits for forums in other states like Missouri and Kentucky. Lots of threads from the last several months, some where she appears to be chatting in them and others she is the subject. They get pretty nasty. Since it's topix I can't get into it much more here but hopefully the proper authorities have all of the information they might need if foul play is involved. The comments and the posters come across very hostile. If there's any suspicion to begin with in her disappearance these conversations are very interesting.

mikkismom
04-03-2013, 01:29 PM
Police continue searching for missing Cairo, Illinois woman

http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/home/ticker/Police-searching-for-missing-Cairo-Illinois-woman-201211351.html

fhc
04-03-2013, 06:29 PM
http://thecairocitizen.com/2013/04/search-still-on-for-missing-cairo-woman/

new, clearer picture of Sandra and more info on the search.

margarita25
04-07-2013, 06:55 AM
Can somebody pls fix the blown margins? Thank you. :)


http://thecairocitizen.com/2013/04/search-still-on-for-missing-cairo-woman/

new, clearer picture of Sandra and more info on the search.

"Donna said her sister regularly went for a walks through St. Mary’s park. "

http://i0.wp.com/thecairocitizen.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/15a_missing001_web.jpg?resize=210%2C360

CMac2
04-07-2013, 11:03 AM
From reading the Topix thread, it sounds like there may have been some sort of an abusive relationship in the picture. I wonder if Sandra was involved with this same man back in 2010 when her brother disappeared, and if there's any link between any of them and this other man who also vanished recently. How scary for the family- not only to have 2 precious loved ones vanish, but they have to be wondering about their own safety as well at this point.

justice4cairo
04-09-2013, 03:28 PM
Yes, she was involved with the same man when her brother disappeared.

southsleuth
04-09-2013, 03:33 PM
Welcome! Any thoughts?

terracotta
04-09-2013, 03:39 PM
http://www.wsiltv.com/news/local/Family-Prays-For-the-Return-of-a-Loved-One-200973301.html


Unfortunately, the family has been through this before. In the fall of 2010, Sandy's twin brother Kenny went missing in Cairo as well. He's never been found. Donna and her brother Paul feel the disappearances aren't a coincidence.

After two incidents in less than three years, the family is considering leaving Cairo. They're worried it could happen again. In the meantime-- they hope to figure out what happened to Sandy.

justice4cairo
04-09-2013, 04:14 PM
I do think their disappearances are related. I do not think either committed suicide.

To lend some perspective to the Topix discussion, this is what I would consider a "normal" family. One of their cousins is the local States Attorney for Alexander County. Another of their cousins was mayor of Cairo about 10 years ago. Their roots go deep in southern Illinois.

terracotta
04-09-2013, 04:28 PM
Justice4cairo...what do you think the connection is between them. A person or group of people? What do you think happened to Kenny? What does the boyfriend think happened? Has anyone in the family spoken to him?


Also if she is smoker and she was going for a walk around the lake...wouldn't she have taken her cigs with her?

justice4cairo
04-13-2013, 08:59 AM
Sandy was not living with her husband at the time of her disappearance. She was living with her niece and sister.

St Mary's Park is considered to probably be the safest place in Cairo to walk. There are few sidewalks on either side of the streets surrounding the park. Everyone walks in the street around the park and there is a group of walkers who daily walk around the park. There is a ball field and a playground at the park. Sandy did a mid-day walk daily around the perimeter of the park. She walked in the street.

She was seen walking on the north end of the park in the street so we know she went for a walk. She was not an athletic person so it is unlikely she walked any farther than around the park, unlikely she was over on Park and 27th as reported. She was not an avid walker, not keen on exercise. She was a smoker. Why would she leave the house without her smokes and phone? The only thing that makes sense to me is that she left the house in a hurry. Perhaps someone at the house said something to upset her and she slammed out?

CMac2
04-13-2013, 03:17 PM
Went back out to the Topix link and checked what people are saying about Sandra's disappearance (since I can't find anything in MSM that's recent). Interesting stuff, to say the least. The forum has grown in recent days, and Websleuths is mentioned more than once. There is reference to 3 members of Sandra's family- Jimmy, Kenney and her father- who have all either gone missing or have met with foul play. It's all rumor, of course, but if true, cannot possibly be a complete coincidence.

justice4cairo
04-14-2013, 06:56 PM
I asked someone who knows the family well and was told these are not rumors.

Apparently her father was murdered when she was an infant. This person seems to recall his body was found in water with his hands and feet bound. Said murder was just a fact of life in Cairo and noone is ever prosecuted.

A brother was murdered 20 - 25 years ago; recalls it was ruled suicide in spite of evidence to the contrary. Said again that murder was just a fact of life in Cairo and noone is ever prosecuted.

Coincidence?

OkieGranny
04-14-2013, 07:49 PM
Link from 2010 about twin brother's disappearance: http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13471171


Kenny Farris is about 6-feet tall and weighs about 200 pounds; has gray hair, brown eyes, and a gray beard.

His sister says he was last seen walking near the 37th Street levy in Cairo. His sister says he suffers from depression and is on nerve medicine.

She also says her brother has never disappeared like this before.

ETA: Ah, silly me. I was so busy googling for info I didn't notice this link had already been posted. Nothing in NamUs regarding Kenney; looked for any likely UIDs that might have floated down the river from Illinois through states southward but saw none.

justice4cairo
04-15-2013, 02:35 PM
The husband, William Robert Smith, is a registered sex offender, victim under 13.

The Cairo police dept searched his house 2 times. Do not know what they removed.

justice4cairo
04-17-2013, 04:04 PM
Was it AFTER twin Kenny went missing that Robert bought Sandy a new car and announced they were getting married again? They had been married and divorced.

justice4cairo
04-24-2013, 06:10 PM
Body found in Ohio River.

If it is her, she would not have committed suicide and it is on the far side of town from her home. The Mississippi is just over the levee from her house.

terracotta
04-24-2013, 07:03 PM
http://www.kfvs12.com/story/22066175/body-recovered-from-ohio-river-in-mccracken-county

Detectives say the body is that of a white female wearing blue jeans and Nike sneakers.

Detective Tim Reed with the McCracken County Sheriff's Department says and autopsy has been completed and no foul play is suspected.


Justice the article is saying no foul play suspected....just crazy...how could they even determine that without a complete autopsy?

fhc
04-24-2013, 07:53 PM
http://www.kfvs12.com/story/22066175/body-recovered-from-ohio-river-in-mccracken-county

Detectives say the body is that of a white female wearing blue jeans and Nike sneakers.

Detective Tim Reed with the McCracken County Sheriff's Department says and autopsy has been completed and no foul play is suspected.


Justice the article is saying no foul play suspected....just crazy...how could they even determine that without a complete autopsy?

The ME could not have done toxicology tests and had the results back this quick. jmo

*~Aimee~*
04-24-2013, 07:55 PM
Dangerous town to walk around in???

Her brother, Kenny Farris, disappeared walking in town in Oct 2010 and was never found.

http://www.kfvs12.com/Global/story.asp?S=13471171

now that is odd a brother now sister? and father?? WoW such tragedy

justice4cairo
04-24-2013, 11:13 PM
Have not read that yet, but heard the body was found this morning. Autopsy already? She didn't have a car, disappeared walking around a park. If she had jumped in the river in Cairo to kill herself, how did the body float 50 miles up river?

justice4cairo
04-24-2013, 11:16 PM
Father murdered, brother murdered/ruled suicide, twin brother disappeared, Sandy's body found 50 miles upriver and it is ruled suicide.

Psychic said she was abducted, black vehicle, they took her across a bridge out of Cairo. That makes sense now.

mpnola
04-25-2013, 01:15 AM
It appears her body has been identified. Thoughts are with her family.
http://thecairocitizen.com/tag/sandra-farris/

sophiebelle
04-25-2013, 05:49 AM
Strange goings on. I suppose LE has more info than we know. If not, what a thing sad thing to shut it down so soon.

terracotta
04-25-2013, 06:08 AM
Have not read that yet, but heard the body was found this morning. Autopsy already? She didn't have a car, disappeared walking around a park. If she had jumped in the river in Cairo to kill herself, how did the body float 50 miles up river?

So how would she have gotten 50 miles up stream when she was out walking? And they ruled it a suicide? No foul play? Seems like that is a hasty decision.

There are cases on here where they are two or more months out and they haven't determined COD or manner....

RIP Sandy

Redhead72
04-25-2013, 07:10 AM
VERY ODD goings on around this poor woman's death. I too don't get how a body could float upstream some 50 miles. And to rule it "No foul play" suspected? I smell something hinky with that - especially because it would take weeks to get back the toxicology reports. Maybe there was no obvious injury on her body, but with decomp and bloating and such that would make it harder to see...

Just curious - in the county that Cairo is in, is the coroner required to hold an MD and have forensics backgrounds? (Some places they are simply elected, and are not really qualified individuals to determine things such a COD and the like).

Too many "coincidences", and too much history to dismiss her drowning as a suicide, imo.

Prayers for her remaining family members, and if they still live in Cairo, I think I'd get the heck out of there ASAP...

terracotta
04-25-2013, 08:56 AM
Just curious - in the county that Cairo is in, is the coroner required to hold an MD and have forensics backgrounds? (Some places they are simply elected, and are not really qualified individuals to determine things such a COD and the like).

Too many "coincidences", and too much history to dismiss her drowning as a suicide, imo.

Prayers for her remaining family members, and if they still live in Cairo, I think I'd get the heck out of there ASAP...

That is a great question about the coroner. It takes 6 weeks everywhere else to get Tox results back. If there was no apparent injury then how could they make such a quick decision. They would have to hold off for tox to make some kind of conclusion. It would seem that something is going on there and that LE would take some time to figure out what is going on with the deaths in her family.

I agree, seems like a lot coincidences in that town....if I were a family member you can bet I would be out of there....just saying.

justice4cairo
04-25-2013, 10:18 AM
Body found in KY.

Mar 18, 2013 ... All Kentucky coroners, and all deputy coroners who are not physicians, are required to enroll in a 40 hour Basic Medicolegal Death ...

Most likely not physician, most likely elected official bought and paid for.

Reminds me of a coroner in the LA area who ruled a mob shooting suicide because the truck doors were locked from the inside.

Someone on topix suggested barge dragged the body north, but normally barges assembled on the Cairo side of the river are going south, not north. Do not know enough about rivers, but do dead bodies float across a rain-swollen fast moving river like the Ohio which is probably wider at the confluence than the Mississippi? And, what shape would the body be in after a barge dragged it north. Would it not be almost unidentifiable? The barges going north would be on the other side of the river, opposite Cairo, and are empty going back north to be refilled and would have maybe 36 of them tethered together.


You are right. All the remaining family members can do is leave since they do not have a voice.

justice4cairo
04-25-2013, 11:18 AM
WHAT is wrong with this picture, Websleuths?

Can you help Sandy's family and help get justice for Sandy?

IF the body was dragged 50 miles by a barge, would the shoes still be on it?

WideOpen
04-25-2013, 11:28 AM
RIP Sandra.

I was going to ask the same question about the shoes still being with the body after all those miles and time.

In another recent case here the woman's boot floated to the top of the water and thats how they found her body just days after she went missing. Her name and details are escaping me at the moment.

Ok, found it, Sara Townsend. I did not follow her case so check for accurate details.

jmo

Redhead72
04-25-2013, 03:05 PM
Unless the barges grabbed her body when it floated up, then she'd either be at the bottom of the river, or would have floated downstream with the current, and definitely not upstream...

As someone mentioned - bought and paid for looks like the deal here... Without knowing anything else. There is no way they could rule COD as a suicide before the toxicology reports came back - at least not definitively.

What other evidence is there that leads them to the conclusion she committed suicide, anyway? History of depression? What are her friends saying?

TOO strange, frankly... I can't picture her body being grabbed and dragged by a barge, frankly. So, it remains - how did she get a full 50 miles upstream from Cairo if she was walking in the park 50 miles downstream???

I wonder how many family members are left? Is there anyone in her family left to speak out for her at all?

It just seems so wrong... So much tragedy for one family.

LotusPawprint
04-25-2013, 04:31 PM
My condolences to the family and I cannot see any reason for investigators to settle on the "no foul play" conclusion at this point.


It seems premature and faulty for Detective Tim Reed with the McCracken County Sheriff’s Department to say "his office does not suspect foul play" and then to say "there are still big questions that need to be answered. Just the fact that she was found in the river does not really explain it. We’ve got the beginning, she left the house to go for a walk, and we’ve got the end, she was recovered, deceased, from the river.” Reed said what happened in between is still a mystery.


So they don't know what happened but don't suspect foul play and further "Reed said his office has yet to receive an official cause of death." Can't even say she drowned, for example? And even if that was the cause of death it doesn't sound like they are able to detemine the manner of death.

There are too many coincidences with the family history of victimization and the circumstances of her disappearance and death. I hope this investigation is still ongoing and the family doesn't have to fight for the answers and justice they should be getting to begin with.




http://thecairocitizen.com/2013/04/further-information-on-missing-cairo-woman-available/

justice4cairo
04-26-2013, 12:16 AM
First, thanks to all of you who have taken an interest in this case.

Just had time to look on net for info about her recovery.

"Detective Tim Reed says at this point, investigators are not sure how her body made it from Cairo to Paducah.

"She was probably caught up with a set of barges. It's not that uncommon for barges to pick up a body and travel with them quite a few miles," says Reed.

The Sheriff's Office was only able to identify the body by medical records and asking family to describe Sandy's jewelry."

I would like to ask Det Reed how many bodies he has seen picked up and dragged up to Paducah where he works. If it is "not uncommon", he should be able to site stats.

One just knows when they read this stuff that the investigation will go nowhere and someone got away with murder.

And, she still had a necklace and shoes on her body.

southernnana
04-26-2013, 02:57 AM
This is a creepy, dark case with all of these family members coming up dead or missing. It sounds like crime bosses are running the Ciaro area law enforcement and courts .... with all getting their cuts of the pie.

Those involved are probably pretty well entrenched. It will probably take the Attorney Generals office and some FBI involvement to get rid of them..

Rest in Peace Sandra. :rose: :rose: Prayers to the families.

justice4cairo
04-26-2013, 10:01 AM
From Cairo Topix:

No foul play? what crap! A second autopsy should be done immediately by another outside professional. No way a woman goes for a walk and ends up dead in the river a month later. No matter what her issues, lifestyle or habits, NO ONE deserves whatever she went through. My advice to her daughter..get the hell out of Cairo and pull your life together somewhere else. I know Shanna and she wants answers, but there will be no honest answers unless outside agencies or media get hold of this and dig thru the good ole boy BS...

justice4cairo
04-26-2013, 10:11 AM
Sandy's daughter:

"Right before she went missing she had a dream she was murdered," said Farris. "I have an idea I know who did this but I cant prove it. They're evil."

Everyone knows, but everyone is afraid to talk.

justice4cairo
04-26-2013, 07:25 PM
People who kill 4 members of one family have diversified geographic interests. The odds are pretty good that websleuthers are following more than one murder or mp case that the killer of Sandy is connected to. Solving this case could solve others.

justice4cairo
04-27-2013, 08:41 PM
When Cairo Police Chief Bernard Brown was asked by a reporter if they were investigating Sandy's death, he told the reporter "that was a secret" and quickly ended the conversation.

ktgirl
04-28-2013, 12:33 AM
Rest in peace, Sandy.

Hope this case really gets looked at...