MO-Missing Bianca Noel Piper (13)

[Timex]

This is for discussion of the case....please keep the other forum for news and support only

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Casshew
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If this girl was not abducted, she must be so scared to be lost, away from home.

I do not understand this' drop her a mile from home business' it sounds like a form of humiliation to me, if you want the girl to walk off anger get her a treadmill.
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[KatherineQ]

Timex - it looks like this was an honest misunderstanding. I haven't seen her mother, but it looks to me like Bianca probably significantly outweighs the adults who are trying to take care of her.

The therapist said have her walk when she's frustrated and angry. How would you make someone who outweighs you walk a great distance, if not dropping them off and driving away?

I'm not excusing this. I'm just trying to think it out. This isn't like a case of a person who really wanted to work out, in which case you'd just offer her a trampoline or a bicycle or a jumprope or a treadmill.

This is a girl who has mental dificiencies, who is given to rage, who the therapist thought it would be good if she walked her anger off.

How do you see that happens, if you are smaller than the person you're trying to make walk? I don't know.

Sad all around.

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Jack
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Originally Posted by Yeah,me
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Well, this is a bit of a relief. I worried that people would blame the mother. It also states that it was part of a dr. recommended treatment program to let her walk her anger off. They still haven't found this precious child, the search will continue in the morning. Read the article if you're interested in volunteering.

I pray they find her well.
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Last I had heard they weren't allowing volunteers, but now I see hundreds of people turned out at the town's high school this morning to organize and search. They're expanding the search area.

About blaming the mother, she will be blamed to a certain extent and probably blames herself a little. Even if a doctor recommended letting her walk I don't think it was meant to take a child with the mentality of a two year old a mile away from home and leaving her alone as it was getting dark to fend for herself. A very poor choice IMO. However, I'm sure she did not think her daughter would go missing and I do have sympathy for her.

The area she is missing from is in the same area where Arlin Henderson disappeared from so many years ago.
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alpharee
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Originally Posted by Yeah,me
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Well, this is a bit of a relief. I worried that people would blame the mother. It also states that it was part of a dr. recommended treatment program to let her walk her anger off. They still haven't found this precious child, the search will continue in the morning. Read the article if you're interested in volunteering.

I pray they find her well.
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I doubt the dr recommended her walking her anger off at night. (I suppose it was getting dark since she had a flashlight with her)
I do blame the mother to an extent. This "therapy" may have been recommended by the dr. but common sense should tell you a child should not be walking when it's that cold out and getting dark.
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Missing Bianca Noel Piper

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This was what I wondered about. The child is mentality eight years old. Anyone with a brain would not take a child that far away (at nightfall) and tell them to walk home!!!! I am not saying the mother is a fault but I am saying maybe the mother has mental issues herself. I don't mean that in an abusive way. If the mother was a rocket scientist I would wonder if she was hoping to get rid of the child! I have serious issues with the doctor. I can see a mother having doubts about the advice but doing it any way. He is the DOCTOR after all.

http://www.teamamberalert.net/news/...rticle&sid=7521

I can't find her on Court TV Message Boards!!! I just may have over looked it.
Susie from Texas
Serious issues and unanswered questions remain why any parent would endanger their child in this manner. This so called therapy walk if factual needs to be exposed as a faux treatment. No one in this country turns a six year-old child out in the dark without adult supervision. Protective services need to get involved as well. Any professional that would prescribe this for this child should be under review for misconduct in their practice.

If this in fact is advice that some professionals are giving out this practice needs to have an immediate end in this country and around the globe. No more children should be exposed to this form or abuse/neglect ever again.

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Jack
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Originally Posted by Jack

Even if a doctor recommended letting her walk I don't think it was meant to take a child with the mentality of a two year old a mile away from home and leaving her alone as it was getting dark to fend for herself.



I must have misread the articles previously, I now understand this child has the menality of a second grader. Still not old enough to handle any situation that might come up far away from home alone and in the dark.
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Jack
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Originally Posted by WasBlind
That doesn't surprise me.

As advocates, our job is supposed to be speaking for those missing, not dissecting their families characters or choices.

The only thing that matters is that the child is missing.

I would ask that no one point fingers. Someone wise once told me every time you point a finger, there are three pointing back at you.

The only focus should be finding this child.

For anyone who reads this, please stop any say a prayer for Bianca and those who search for her.

With love and HOPE, Lanie



I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. This child is missing because those in charge of her made some poor choices. As heartbreaking as it is, because surely nobody intended for this to happen, it is neccesary to point out so that others can learn from it.
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Jack
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Originally Posted by Gabby
We all make poor choices, Jack.. I agree with Lanie, we need to concentrate on the fact that this child is missing. That is the main focus here, get her home, and don't worry about casting stones towards the mother. The most important thing is find this child and get her home.



Nobody is casting stones that I can see, I hope you are not insinuating that I am. I have great sympathy for this family and if I could be I'd be out helping search for Noel. But, not discussing it isn't going to bring this child home but discussing it might keep another from going missing. Quite frankly, if one mother thought it was okay to let her child walk a mile in the dark then there are probably more who would do the same thing and it needs to be discussed so that people are made aware that it is not safe, period.
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Jack
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Originally Posted by Gabby
I think that kicking a person when they are down is a bad thing to do, and yes, it appears that is just what you are doing. I am not going to get into a mud slinging contest with you ... In fact I am now out of this conversation.



Oh well that's just great, accuse me of something and then refuse to talk about it. Whatever, you're free to have your opinion of me even if it's wrong.

I'm going to continue to point out that you don't let a child walk a mile in the dark at any age, and if by chance someone hears it and it keeps them from putting their child at risk then something has been accomplished. Pretending that everything is okay so long as we just think good thoughts is what's not going to help these situations. Perhaps if someone had spoken about the risks before this child went missing we wouldn't be needing to talk about it now.
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Jack
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If you will kindly notice I deleted the post. I would appreciate you doing likewise


No thank you. I feel very strongly that these situations need to be talked about.
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[Jack]

Thanks Timex for moving me to the right forum, I was unaware that there were two.

I'm wondering if anyone would know why the FBI would have been involved in this search today. Don't they normally only get involved if there is some reason to believe a person was abducted and taken over state lines?

[Tinkerbell]

My husband and I live in Winfield, MO, which is where the volunteers for the search are gathering and the searches are being coordinated. Bianca disappeared from McIntosh Hill Road which is about 4 miles from our home. My son goes to school with her. My husband grew up in this area and this is a very closeknit community. It's very disturbing to think there could be a monster lurking. Bianca's mother, Shannon, and her boyfriend have been cleared of any wrongdoing.

The search area was expanded to 95 miles out yesterday. We had volunteers and LE crawling over farm fields, down by the river, the railroad tracks, everywhere, and NOTHING. The Shawn Hornbeck Foundation provided dogs, which picked up no trace of her. The Eureka Equine Search and Rescue Org. provided searchers on horseback. St. Charles County has provided a mobile command unit and civil air patrol is searching by air. Everyone is doing everything they can to find her. All registered sex offenders have been questioned and their property searched and NOTHING.

Lincoln County Sheriff, Dan Torres, has done an exceptional job thus far IMO, as well as all the other LE agencies and God bless the volunteers.

We continue to pray for Bianca and her family.

[PrayersForMaura]

I saw the oddest thing saturday and it was probably nothing but now i am not so sure. I was traveling on highway 40 towards west st. louis and saw a young girl standing alone on the side of the road..... it appeared to be a bust stop, but it was off of the highway... i was driving 55 mph, so i only had a quick glance, and i can barely remember what she looked like but she looked more like Jessia than the pictures of Bianca. I was afraid to call the police for fear that maybe she was just a little girl hanging out and it was nothing. Now I regret that.

I hope that little girl was ok. IT was a busy highway so i am sure i am not hte ny person who would've seen her.

[Jack]

I saw the oddest thing saturday and it was probably nothing but now i am not so sure. I was traveling on highway 40 towards west st. louis and saw a young girl standing alone on the side of the road..... it appeared to be a bust stop, but it was off of the highway... i was driving 55 mph, so i only had a quick glance, and i can barely remember what she looked like but she looked more like Jessia than the pictures of Bianca. I was afraid to call the police for fear that maybe she was just a little girl hanging out and it was nothing. Now I regret that.

I hope that little girl was ok. IT was a busy highway so i am sure i am not hte ny person who would've seen her.

From Bianca's description she would appear to be more of an adult than a young girl, in fact if she fits her description she is bigger than I am and I'm 37 yrs old.

Where at along 40? There is no public transportation out in St. Charles/Lincoln Co. so it is doubtful any child would have been waiting for a bus outside of a school day. And I think over the river 40 is actually I64 so no bus stops on an interstate. Most likely she was waiting to cross the road.

I know that nagging feeling you're having about regret. I get the same thing everytime I see young kids riding their bikes on the side of hiway K or 94. It's just too dangerous yet their parents either don't know or don't care.

[Jack]

Search to go on for only two more days. Mother is interviewed in story below.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/D89BBE249119440A86256FC5001BF4AE?OpenDocument

[blueclouds]

This is infuriating and the mother will forever and ever regret this. this is not UNLIKE LESLIE'S MOM (Paul Bernardo's victim) locking her own daughter out of the house for the night because she broke curfew AGAIN. GOD..... this is maddening. How do parents not THINK.

Not to mention Michael Dunnahey in Vancouver.... WHAT parent leaves his 6 yr old brother in charge of the 4 year old, in order to go play baseball with A ROW OF TREES in between.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I know a lot of you think I'm slamming the families, I'M NOT. We just need to learn that MANY MANY child abductions ARE PREVENTABLE. You cannot leave your children unattended period. This is the environment we live in.

[PrayersForMaura]

From Bianca's description she would appear to be more of an adult than a young girl, in fact if she fits her description she is bigger than I am and I'm 37 yrs old.

Where at along 40? There is no public transportation out in St. Charles/Lincoln Co. so it is doubtful any child would have been waiting for a bus outside of a school day. And I think over the river 40 is actually I64 so no bus stops on an interstate. Most likely she was waiting to cross the road.

I know that nagging feeling you're having about regret. I get the same thing everytime I see young kids riding their bikes on the side of hiway K or 94. It's just too dangerous yet their parents either don't know or don't care.
It was near Highway 40 and Mariott West.... west county on the way to chesterfield. This girl Isaw looked like she was 10 or 11, honestly... I jut say little girl because I'm quite older :)
I surely hope the girl got to where she was going safely. It was Satuday by the way... around 4:30pm

[englishleigh]

This is infuriating and the mother will forever and ever regret this. this is not UNLIKE LESLIE'S MOM (Paul Bernardo's victim) locking her own daughter out of the house for the night because she broke curfew AGAIN. GOD..... this is maddening. How do parents not THINK.

Not to mention Michael Dunnahey in Vancouver.... WHAT parent leaves his 6 yr old brother in charge of the 4 year old, in order to go play baseball with A ROW OF TREES in between.

GRRRRRRRRRRRRR. I know a lot of you think I'm slamming the families, I'M NOT. We just need to learn that MANY MANY child abductions ARE PREVENTABLE. You cannot leave your children unattended period. This is the environment we live in.

ITA, blueclouds. This was very stupid advice these therapists gave this mother, and she was thoughtless to follow it, in this day and age. I would be MORE afraid, really, to allow a mentally disabled child to walk around alone than a "normal" child. This child didn't have a chance against an abductor. I pray she's found safe, but it doesn't look good. This poor lady will have to live with this for the rest of her life. I just cannot imagine.

[inquiringmindz]

Prayers for Biancas safe return and for peace for her family.

[inquiringmindz]

I know that nagging feeling you're having about regret. I get the same thing everytime I see young kids riding their bikes on the side of hiway K or 94. It's just too dangerous yet their parents either don't know or don't care.
I know exactly what you mean. I see kids all the time who are out walking alone, riding their bikes, or just messing around where the parents have no idea where they are or who they are with. I have three kids 11,6,5 and will not leave them alone even in my own back yard. I know I'm over protective but better safe than sorry. Some people just don't think things will happen to their kids - Unfortunately, hindsight is 20/20. I just know I would never forgive myself if something happened to one of my children.

[englishleigh]

I know exactly what you mean. I see kids all the time who are out walking alone, riding their bikes, or just messing around where the parents have no idea where they are or who they are with. I have three kids 11,6,5 and will not leave them alone even in my own back yard. I know I'm over protective but better safe than sorry. Some people just don't think things will happen to their kids - Unfortunately, hindsight is 20/20. I just know I would never forgive myself if something happened to one of my children.


I am the same. My children are 11, 8 & 6...I know where they are at ALL times and they are rarely allowed to leave our yard...the furthest I will let them go is 2 houses down or across the street in our cul-de-sac to play with friends and I watch them go the whole way, and back. My 11-year-old was complaining last night b/c we won't drop her off at the movies to meet friends like a lot of her classmates are allowed to do. Too bad.

[PrayersForMaura]

the pictures I have seen of Bianca have her with short hair to her shoulders. The more I think about this little girl i saw on saturday, the more i think it could have been her and I'm kicking myself for not calling 911 right then... thisgirl has a little longer than shoulder length brown hair that was wavy/curly...
how recent is the picture being circulated??

[Tinkerbell]

The official search for Bianca has been called off, but volunteers will continue. Sheriff Dan Torres said detectives will remain on the case investigating foul play.

The search covered 250 square miles and no trace of Bianca was found.

We continue to pray for her and her family.

[Yeah,me]

Hey there Tinkerbell. It's nice to 'see' a familiar face around here. Have you or your son heard any word from the family? How are they holding up? Do they need anything? Is there any type of donation fund set up in their names?

My prayers go out to this little girl and her family. I hope she is found somewhere safe and someone just wanted to be a 'caregiver' to her.

[Tinkerbell]

Hi there Yeah,Me. The family is selling purple ribbon pins to raise money for the search.

It's very sad. I hope they get a break in the case and the family can at least find out what happened to her. That would be the worst for me, the not knowing.

[SUSANSTARR]

:bang: I just posted my deepest feelings about this family. I wrote my whole past history. I wrote my inner being down on this post.

THANK GOD my connection was disrupted. I would never have shone my face here on WebSleuths again!!:boohoo:


What I started out asking was do we know who was the last person to see Bianca?
I know the paper said she was last seen walking with a flashlight. Was it already dark enough to have it on?


Susie from Texas:eek:

[Tinkerbell]

Her mother dropped her off about 6:00 p.m. and it was getting dark by then as it was a cold overcast evening. The family has been cleared of any wrongdoing after intensive questioning. Keep in mind this is a very rural area and a very secluded gravel road. When you live in a rural area it's easy to get complacent about safety.

The scent dogs picked up her scent where her mother dropped her off and followed it down the road about 150 yards, then poof, nothing. It's fairly obvious that someone picked her up.

[Yeah,me]

I pray that someone was just trying to look out for her. I haven't seen much coverage of her case. :( :waitasec:

[Tinkerbell]

The Carole Sund Carrington Foundation has just offered up $5,000 in reward money for info on Bianca.

[dannyodie]

susanstar; if I read the news article correctly, I believe her mother was the last person to see her. if I understood, the young girl had some behavioral issues and that a therpasist had made a statement to the mother that if she got disruptive again over any issues with the mom, for her to drop her off a ways from the house and make her walk home, this was some sort of conditioning therapy in an effort to make her somewhat more behaved when ask to do something. I have mixed issues about the whole case, or for the part of it I have read and come to understand. not to stone anyone close to her, but in view of mothers that harm their children I always look back on the susan smith case. to refresh your memory, susan smith was the young mother that left her two small children in car seats and allowed the car to roll down a boat ramp and into the lake. their bodies were found a short time later when she was discovered to be the one that harmed them. I wonder myself if the police or fbi has questioned the mother in depth? I believe that anytime someone is reported missing it becomes federal jurisdiction, but local authorities useally request their help if needed. the road that this occured on was a long gravel or country rd off of the main hwy. her mom indicated that she drove her a short distants away at first, let her out and then drove home. she said a very short time later her daughter came in the door, and made a comment of how short of a walk it was. her mom hadn't taken her the one mile from home like the doctor had said. so she took her back down the road and let her out, one mile from home and let her out again. when she left she drove only a short distants and looked into the rear view mirror and noticed a vehicle pass by on the main rd behind her, she turned back around and went up to her child and told her not to get in a car with anyone and then proceeded back home. she said that after 6 or 630 she became concerned that she had not come back home, she went out looking for her, and after not be able to find her, came back home and notified the authorities. I also kinda have my mind set on the doc that made that type of decision as for a treatment. in this day and time, letting your child walk alone in remote places is certainly taking a great risk to their saftey, maybe the police should look into him as a person of interest, after all he would know where they live and making a therputical decision like he did, he knew that eventually the mother would drop her off a ways from the house so he could pull up and pick her up. remember, not all sexual preditors look like the man that killed jessica lundsford, a bunch of them do look the part, but there are many amoung us that look like very trusting individuals.

[Tinkerbell]

Photos of where Bianca disappeared:

http://www.rachelfind.com/biancapiper.htm

My husband and I drove this road and it's very remote and secluded. I've also read a rumor that Bianca was new to this area and her mother said she could disoriented very easily (so she drops her off a mile from home in 20 degree weather?). I was under the impression she was from the area, so I'm not sure about that piece of info. Although I will say that her mother has been conspicuously absent from the search efforts which are still going on. It's possible LE has only said the mother and boyfriend were cleared of wrongdoing to give them a false sense of security so they will let something slip. Bianca's mother is the last person to have seen her and no one else saw her walking on that road.

I'm beginning to get suspicious.

[PrayersForMaura]

Photos of where Bianca disappeared:

http://www.rachelfind.com/biancapiper.htm

My husband and I drove this road and it's very remote and secluded. I've also read a rumor that Bianca was new to this area and her mother said she could disoriented very easily (so she drops her off a mile from home in 20 degree weather?). I was under the impression she was from the area, so I'm not sure about that piece of info. Although I will say that her mother has been conspicuously absent from the search efforts which are still going on. It's possible LE has only said the mother and boyfriend were cleared of wrongdoing to give them a false sense of security so they will let something slip. Bianca's mother is the last person to have seen her and no one else saw her walking on that road.

I'm beginning to get suspicious.
thanks for the pictures ... I agree with you on your suspicions and have thought so from day 1.

[Jack]

Thanks for the pics Tinkerbell. A friend of mine was able to join the search while LE was still searching. Was on a team with someone who had been a teacher of Bianca's. The teacher was suspicious even then.

Sounds like there is the possibility of familial foul play, but at this point I think it is just as likely some sicko grabbed her and she'll be found down river in the future. Sorry if that sounds bad, but I think by now there's very little hope of finding this poor girl alive.

[Opie]

Bumping this thread to ask if there has been any further news on this unfortunate girl.

[RPPaolin]

Any word on this poor girl?

[Jack]

Any word on this poor girl?


I'm fairly local to this story and I haven't heard a thing. Although I saw that yesterday there was a body of a woman who appeared to be in her teans found in the Mississippi. Probably not her as geographicly I don't think she could end up in the Mississippi unless someone drove her quite a long way away to get rid of her. I don't hold out much hope of her being found alive.


Here's a link to the story about the body:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=79138

[curious1]

Any new developments?

[amycg]

I was wondering the same thing...Is this the story that the Mother dropped her off on the side of the rode because she was acting up, and told her to walk home??? I thought I read about this in the Modbee forum...

[jodierenee]

i'm having a hard time believing someone would forcefully take her into their car...she might be mentally challenged, but she weighs 185 lbs....it's not like they can just easily snatch her up....

i suspect she volunarily got into the car with someone (even after her parents told her not to), then who knows what could've happened after she got into the car.

Most likely, she got into the car with someone she knew...who was gonna offer her a ride home. I hope everyone that knew her has been questioned.

[shellys]

There has been nothing new in the St. Louis news on Bianca.

[cecilia]

No, nothing new.
I've been so cynical about husbands with missing wives or kids, but I never questioned the mom's story until I read these last posts.
I thought the mom was careless, supposedly following the shrink's advice to drop Bianca off and make her walk, but now I tend to agree that the family knows more than they're telling... how do people find the nerve to lie so baldfaced??????

[nixmom]

Law & Order: Mother of missing girl is charged with assault


06/28/2005

ST. LOUIS
Mother of missing girl is charged with assault

The mother of a missing Lincoln County girl has been charged with domestic assault after police say she hit another daughter in the head with a curling iron and threatened to tie her up and lock her in a bedroom. The rest of the story can be found here:

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/D436D073C5778C8C8625702F0012EDBE?OpenDocument

I find this very disturbing. I don't think it bodes well for poor Bianca. :(

[RockyMountains]

You have got to be kidding me. This lady seems to be a piece of work here. She talks about her Daughter having problems with her temper and the likes but then pulls this kid of crap. LE needs to really focus on this lady. As a matter of fact let me get into a locked room with her for about an hour with no LE watching and we can find out what really happened. Poor sweet girl.

[nixmom]

The article surely doesn't reflect well on Bianca's mom. LE has been to the home for domestic dispute with boyfriend and now assault on Bianca's sister. It definitely makes me wonder if she lost her temper with Bianca, rather than Bianca losing her temper the evening she disappeared as has been reported.

[RPPaolin]

It certainly does make you wonder about her story.:waitasec:

[cherylereed]

First time to post-
I feel so bad for Bianca. If she is still alive, I think she would have been found by now. Seems like mom took care of her- and would have taken care of the older girl except for LE. JMHO

[Sam]

The fact that she reached around LE to get ahold of glass and had to be subdued via a taser speak volumes. I believe the child involved in this incident may well have met with foul play had LE not arrived. I think poor Bianca's fate is explained through this behavior.

[emma l]

I KNOW this doesnt look good but I think we should hold judgement until more facts are known. I too have a hard time beliving that she dropped Bianca off on a dark road- but some people are incredibly irresponsible- but it doesnt make the murderers.

I'm saying this because I am one of the people who jumped to conclusions about the Riley Fox case, and look where that ended up.............

I'm not saying shes innocent, just that we don't know. I hope they find Bianca safe and well................and until we know for sure otherwise, we should all be hoping for that.

[Bobbisangel]

Nothing new recently? That wasn't a good idea to leave her daughter on the side of the road...if that is what happened.

I wasn't there so I have no idea what went on between mother and daughter that day in the home. The mother's anxiety level is probably sky high with a daughter missing. Kids can push a parent to the point of wanting to hit them with something. The mom may have just tapped the daughter with the curling iron and the daughter has made the story worse than it was...we don't know.

There have been times when I could have knocked my 16 yr old grandaughter right through a wall...I wanted to after some of the things that came out of her mouth..but I didn't. I can understand how easy it would be to cross that line though. These kids go right for the jugler at times. By the time the cops got to the mother's house she may have been totally out of control. I think we need to cut her some slack. I know I would be on the edge of a breakdown if I had a daughter that is missing.

[dannyodie]

You have got to be kidding me. This lady seems to be a piece of work here. She talks about her Daughter having problems with her temper and the likes but then pulls this kid of crap. LE needs to really focus on this lady. As a matter of fact let me get into a locked room with her for about an hour with no LE watching and we can find out what really happened. Poor sweet girl.
I have had a struggling feeling that the mom dropped this kid off the way she said she did. if she has it in her to hit the other kid with an object, I just wonder if she did the same to the one that is missing? except with something like a rolling pin or something else? if she did kill her daughter accidently or on purpose, wonder how she would have been able to move the body? didn't the kid way like 180 or so pounds? that would be hard for me to move, and almost very difficult for her mom to do. wonder if the moms boyfriend may have helped? I know I am casting judgement, but to me, I just can't imagine a mother doing her daughter the way she said she did. that is very reckless to say the least, and now the daughter is missing, she should be charged for placing a child in harms way or something along those lines, child endangerment? the area that she went missing in is somewhat remote and off of the main hwy from what I understand.

[emma l]

This has been so long. Is there any news at all that anyone has heard?

[fourboys]

Mother of missing girl clings to fading hope

09/12/2005
By Susan Weich
St. Louis Post-Dispatch

FOLEY -- Six months after 13-year-old Bianca Piper disappeared without a trace near her home in Lincoln County, her mother knows hope is fading that Bianca will be found alive.

"I'm torn between wanting and not wanting to know," said her mother, Shannon Tanner. "I'd almost rather think she's out there somewhere and not know where she's at than know something terrible has happened."

Bianca has been missing since Tanner dropped the girl off about a mile from their home in Foley on a cold night in March. Tanner thought that walking back to their residence would give Bianca a chance to calm down after an argument.

The girl suffers from bipolar and attention deficit hyperactivity disorders and uses several medications to help control her mood swings and aggressive tendencies. Tanner said that a mental health therapist had recommended the walks but that Tanner had used the idea only once before - the night before Bianca disappeared.

Tanner said that on the first night, Bianca had met her with a packed bag when her mother got home from work and said she wanted to go to the hospital because she could feel herself losing control. Bianca had been hospitalized previously when doctors needed to adjust her medication, Tanner said.

She encouraged Bianca to try taking a walk instead.

"She came back, was happy, felt better and did her chores," Tanner said. "We had a great evening together, and she didn't mention going to the hospital anymore."

So when Tanner got home the night of March 10 and Bianca did not want to wash dishes, Tanner drove the girl down their gravel road and dropped her off with a flashlight just past a bridge that spans a creek.

247 exhausted leads

Bianca never returned, and police have exhausted 247 leads trying to find her. Authorities have not been able to confirm even one legitimate sighting of Bianca. The lack of evidence points to foul play, police say.

Tanner has been criticized for leaving her daughter to walk home alone, and some postings on Internet message boards have even speculated that she was involved in her daughter's disappearance. Police have questioned Tanner as well as her live-in boyfriend, Jim Felt, and consider neither of them suspects.

Tanner said that had not stopped the suspicions or cruel comments. Recently, a new co-worker who did not know who she was, but learned where she lived, asked how close her home was to where Bianca went missing. When she told him she lived right there, he said he thought Bianca's mother had killed her.

"I said, 'Really? What makes you say that?'" Tanner said. "And he said, 'Because she didn't cry enough in the first few days of the interviews.' I told him that I was Bianca's mother and that I did not hurt my daughter."

In the ensuing months, Tanner has used whatever means she had available to her to cope with her daughter's disappearance.

Initially, she had the support of legions of volunteers and emergency personnel who searched more than 270 square miles - nearly half of Lincoln County - for Bianca.

The Shawn Hornbeck Foundation lent a hand as did Rachelfind and the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which offered a consultant to aid the team of Lincoln County sheriff's detectives investigating the case.

National exposure

The TV shows "America's Most Wanted" and "Without A Trace" featured Bianca's case, and her image was sent out on thousands of postcards and fliers that reached as far as Maryland.

Tanner gave the search a personal touch when she strung a set of lights designed by Bianca's idol, Hilary Duff, in the front room window to guide Bianca home.

Tanner's mother, Carol Young, blanketed homeless shelters with e-mails about Bianca.

The women sought the counsel of psychics, who in one case told Tanner that Bianca had been picked up in a van by a sex offender and in another told Young that Bianca was not alive.

But six months later, the only new lead is an unidentified corpse found recently on Kaskaskia Island in Illinois. A forensics expert will compare Bianca's dental records with the remains, those of a female between the ages of 13 and 20, police said.

Undaunted, Tanner recently worked with police to make an updated flier about Bianca and used money raised mostly from family members to post a $10,000 reward. The money is in addition to a $5,000 reward offered by a private foundation.

Tanner also has planned a vigil from 4 to 7 p.m. Thursday near their home on McIntosh Hill Road where Bianca was last seen. Tanner has had special T-shirts made up with Bianca's image. She spearheaded an effort to start a Web site, www.findbianca.org (http://www.findbianca.org/) where people can post leads about Bianca.

Tanner says that Bianca is always on her mind.

"Some days, I cry all the way to work," she said. "And there have been a couple of days where I haven't even been able to work."

She worries that some personal difficulties she has had since Bianca disappeared might stop people from caring about her daughter.

In May, Tanner filed for a restraining order against Felt but dropped it after the two reconciled.

Two months later, Tanner was charged with assaulting her 18-year-old daughter, who also suffers from a bipolar disorder in addition to schizophrenia.

Her daughter had stopped taking her medication, and Tanner said that when police arrived, she was trying to keep the girl from hurting herself. The Division of Family Services removed Tanner's third daughter, 15, from their home afterward, and she is living with Young now.

Police say they believe the incidents are unrelated to Bianca's disappearance, but Tanner is concerned about what others might think.

"I don't want people to stop caring because they think the family is messed up or that I might have something to do with it," she said. "There's a little girl missing, and we need to find her."

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[Bobbisangel]

I'm puzzled. One night when Bianca felt like she needed to go to the hospital
her mom talks her into going for a walk...she went and came back feeling better.

The next night when mother and daughter get into a disagreement instead of telling Bianca to go for a walk around the neighborhood like before...mom gives her a flashlight and drives her a mile down a gravel road...drops her off.
Why the need to drive her a mile from home? For some reason I thought the two were on their way home from somewhere and got into a arguement and mom made her get out of the car and walk home.

I just don't understand the need to drive Bianca a mile away from home with a flashlight...getting dark...out in the country..scary for a kid.

Both of the older girls have mental disorders. I wonder if the youngest..15 yrs..does too. That is just really sad. I just wish Bianca would be found. Poor little thing left out there by herself in the dark. I hope she is alright and somewhere safe.

[bykerladi]

This is one case that has dropped out of the headlines. Anyone know anything new?

[Opie]

I often wonder about this child also. Let's keep this bumped up for possible further info.

[RPPaolin]

http://www.findbianca.org/bianca.html

[bykerladi]

*bumping for Bianca*

[Boyz_Mum]

Thinking of Bianca and bumping her thread...

[Bobbisangel]

I wonder what happened to this young girl? It's hard to believe that she could make it on her own if she had the problems that her mother said that she had. I wonder what the real story is behind her disappearance.

[Jack]

Unfortunately there is probably so much more to her story than we will ever know. I realize I could be wrong but after hearing that the mom lashed out at another one of her daughters violently I can't help but think there may be an issue there. Actually I've always thought the whole story was a little strange and I don't believe it. I'm just not sure who it is that's lying.

[Jodibug]

any news on Bianca?

[bykerladi]

No new news articles that I can find. Bumping anyway...