NH-Missing young women in NH [Archive] - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

gatetrekker44

04-13-2005, 01:52 AM

OK, I realize that at any given time people go missing all over the USA-but the
disappearances and murders of Amie Riley, Christine Lunceford, Sarah Langis, and the as yet unsolved disappearance of Maura Murray, all in NH, has just got me worked up. All were in the same age range, and all apparently had NO REASON to just disappear, and as time has unfortunately shown, the first three met untimely ends by a person or persons unknown. I'm sure some posters on this site will try to say that they somehow caused their own demises, but I am getting the feeling(yes, its my feeling and I'm entitled to it!)that there is something more sinister at work in the state of New Hampshire than just bad luck or bad choices. I tried to locate on a map the location each disappeared from and where they were found and it apperas that at least 3(Amie Riley, Christine Lunceford, and Maura Murray)were in fairly close proximity when they disappeared. Does anyone else have any info about any missing/murdered young women that fit the same general profile as those listed above?

Bring Maura home!

Grassyknoll2

04-13-2005, 07:50 AM

I started looking for info on some of the names listed at www.Mauramurray.com (http://www.Mauramurray.com) These young woman may well be runaways, but it doesn't alter the fact that they are missing. Here are three who disappeared in 2004. Christina Lunceford was also on this list.

DOMINIKA SMOLINSKI
16 Years Old
Height: 5'7'' Weight: 120 lbs. Eyes: Hazel
Please call parents: 802-878-1078

http://www.mikconsulting.net/Dominika/ (http://www.mikconsulting.net/Dominika/)

JESSICA ANN CAPILLE
NCMC1004274
-Endangered Runaway
DOB: May 21, 1989 Age: 15
Missing: Dec 8, 2004 Race: White
MANCHESTER, NH, US

http://www.melanie.web.aplus.net/id7.html (http://www.melanie.web.aplus.net/id7.html)

COURTNEY R. KING
NCMC980848
-Endangered Runaway
DOB: Dec 14, 1987 Age: 17
Missing: Jan 9, 2004 Race: White
PELHAM, NH, US

Circumstances: Courtney was last seen on January 9, 2004. She may still be in the local area or she may have traveled to Hobe Sound, Florida. Courtney may be in the company of an adult male. She may go by the alias name Valentyna Korol.

National Center for Missing Children

pugsley

04-13-2005, 09:53 AM

pugsley

04-13-2005, 10:58 AM

In my post I meant to state MURDERED girls, from the 80's, around the area where Maura disappeared.

Sorry.

Hammerized

04-13-2005, 08:11 PM

Christina actually lived in MA., where she was found.
No, Christina had recently moved to Nashua, NH and was no longer living in MA at the time of her disappearance.

gatetrekker44

04-14-2005, 08:13 PM

JrZyChris

04-14-2005, 09:57 PM

Pugsley, since I am fairly new at researching info on the mising/murdered-can you direct me to any particular site where I can view the
Sorry, I hit "Reply" before reading Pugsley's post - so sorry Pugsley, I'm not dissin' you lol - I just wanted to mention to this poster that WasBlind and Kelly could probably drop you a few links to get started. Their information, since my time on this website, has been very informative.

Regards,
JrZyChris

pugsley

04-15-2005, 10:06 AM

Thanks Hammerized, I thought I had misread where Christine was living when she disappeared.

Pugsley, since I am fairly new at researching info on the mising/murdered-can you direct me to any particular site where I can view the info you were speaking about? Readin your posts gave me a definite chill and I would like to research further about those 80's cases. Thanks!

Gatetrekker,
Never posted a link, so I don't know if this will work....
[URL=http://www.geocities.com/verbal_plainfield/coldcases/valleykiller.html]

This story aired on unsolved mysteries. What amazes me is that LE in that area claim (in regards to Maura & Bri's case) that there is no serial killer out there. Um, ya...what about the one you never caught?

Thanks Hammerized for your correction, sorry, I thought she only worked in Nashua.

Pugsley

gatetrekker44

04-15-2005, 07:55 PM

for your guidance. I was able to locate some in about those 80's cases that remain unsolved as well as the cases that were attributed to an individual dubbed the "Connecticut River killer" who confessed to a string of murders and was tried and convicted. Pugsley, I will check out your link to gather addl info. But what really concerns me is the fact that these most recent cases-and the fact that LE seems to have their collective heads in the sand about the very real possibility that a serial murderer may be in their midst! After all, that's how Ted Bundy was able to elude detection for sooooo long-I'm afraid that whoever may be responsible is just getting started...

Grassyknoll2

04-16-2005, 09:37 AM

Hi all,

I found a little information on the Connecticut River Killer after reading, "Shadow of Death" by Philip Ginsburg. There isn't a whole lot online, but the most recent info can be found in a forum at a Brattleboro Newspaper and the VTSP website. The following is part of a post by a retired VTSP officer:

Connecticut River Serial Killer Meetup?

Authored by: Terry Martin (http://www.ibrattleboro.com/users.php?mode=profile&uid=85) on Saturday, March 05 2005 @ 10:22 PM EST

Hi Steve,

I "kind of scanned" through all the postings and didn't see if you had made contact or are maintaining contact with those closest to your postings - i.e. the VSP Bureau of Criminal Investigation in Rockingham?

Detective Lieutenant Tim Oliver now heads up Detectives working out of Brattleboro, Rockingham and Bethel on the Vermont Side. .....

In April 1987 until 1994, I worked out of Rockingham covering this whole Troop "D" area as the Crime Prevention/Public Information Officer and was very close to this case on the Vermont side. Off the top of my head, at that time, there were ten (10) unsolved homicides - three (3) on the Vermont side and seven (7) on the New Hampshire side. The three on our side were: Barbara Agnew, Sarah Hunter and Linda Moore. Amazingly, the majority of the woman were professionals and wore white uniforms or uniforms. ALL, as I remember, were killed by a knife as the weapon.

http://www.ibrattleboro.com/article.php?story=2005030514582533 (http://www.ibrattleboro.com/article.php?story=2005030514582533)

Should anyone have any NEW information pertaining to this case, they should also contact Detective Lieutenant Oliver.
**********************************
Barbara Agnew, Sarah Hunter (who isn't mentioned in the book) and Lynda Moore, as of 5 minutes ago, are all listed on the VTSP website as being unsolved.
http://www.dps.state.vt.us/vtsp/homicide/

There is also information on some of the victims at www.Mauramurray.com (http://www.Mauramurray.com) in the Missing & Remembered section posted by Silky. As listed in the book, the victims were:
Jo Anne Dunham 1968
Cathy Millican 1978
Elizabeth Critchley 1981
Bernice Courtemanche 1984
Ellen Fried 1984
Eva Morse 1985
Lynda Moore 1986
Barbara Agnew 1984
Woman who escaped 1988

There was a another serial killer around the same time who was caught, but the victims were younger.

Sudzi

04-16-2005, 10:23 AM

I'm glad to see some interest in this. I live here, on the VT side.

It's something locals talk about, even if LE seems to have their heads in the sand.
It's such a ripe area for this type of crime, very rural and wooded.

Boxerz

04-20-2005, 10:00 AM

:::::Connections?:::::

~1978. Cathy Millican, age 26, last seen Photographing birds at Chandler Brook Wetland preserve on Route 11 in New London NH at around 5:30-6:00 pm on Oct 24th. She was found the following day a few hundred yards into the same preserve, stabbed 20 plus times. Theft nor sexual assualt were a motive.

(Note the Millican 1978 similarities to Louise Chaput Nov. 2001 and Shari Lynn Roth 1977)

~1981. Elizabeth Critchley, age 23, last seen hitchhiking on I-91 near the VT/MA border on July 25th. Found in the woods near Unity stage road in Claremont NH on Aug 9th. The cause of death was never determined, or made public, but it was treated as a homicide.

~1982. Sylvia Gray, age 76, reported missing from her home near Moses Pond in Plainfield NH on Oct. 5th. Found the following day a few hundred yards from her home in the woods. She had been bludgeoned and stabbed to death.

~1984. Bearnice Courtemanche, age 16, last seen hitchhiking along Route 12 in west Claremont NH on May 30th. Her skeletal remains were found nearly 2 years later just off Cat Hole Hill road in Kellyville NH on Apr. 19th 1986. She had been hit in the head and stabbed to death.

~1984. Ellen Fried, age 27, last known to be talking on the pay telephone at Leos Market in Claremont NH on July 20th. The following day her car was found abandoned in West Claremont NH on Jarvis Lane. One year later, on Sept. 19th, 1985 her body was found in Kellyville NH, the same tract of woods where Courtemanche was later found. Ellen also had been stabbed to death.

~1985. Eva Morse, age 28, last seen hitchhiking on NH Route 12 along the Claremont/Charlestown border on July 10th. Her body was found on Apr.25th, 1986 near the Unity Stage Road. A few Hundred yards from where Critchley had been found. Eva had been stabbed to death.

~1986. Steven Hill, age 38, last seen picking up his paycheck from his workplace in Lebanon NH. on June 20th. His body was found with stab wounds along the CT River in Hartland VT at Sumners Falls two weeks later on July 15th. Sumners Falls is just across the CT River from Plainfield NH where Sylvia Gray was murdered.

~1986. Lynda Moore, age 32, last known to be at her home, outside in the yard, in Saxtons River VT. Found later that day in her livingroom, she had been stabbed to death.

~1986. Heidi Martin, age 17, last seen jogging along the Martinsville Road in Hartland VT on May 1. She was found the following day in a swampy area behind the Elementary School, a mile from where she was last seen, she had been stabbed to death. This location is roughly 4 miles south of Sumners Falls where Steven Hill was found.

~1987. Barbara Agnew, age 38, her abandoned vehicle was found in the I-91 northbound rest area in Hartford VT on Jan 10th. She was found Mar 28th, along Advent Hill road in Hartland VT, she had been stabbed to death.

gatetrekker44

04-21-2005, 12:48 AM

murdered in similiar fashion within a specific time frame and area. It gives me pause to wonder if Brianna Maitland should also be included since her car was also found abandoned and apparently hidden. Maura Murray's car was abandoned, but I don't know if a vehicle link was ever put forth in Amie Riley's case. But reading the cases that Boxerz posted, the thing that stood out the most was that whoever committed those murders was evidently able to get close to a variety of people, commit the crimes, and seemingly vanish without being caught(at least for these crimes!). For an individual to perpetrate these acts, I believe someone possibly in a position of authority or with access to info that enabled them to impersonate an authority figure is responsible. Does anyone know what was determined as the cause of Amie Riley's death?

Bring Maura home!

Boxerz

04-21-2005, 09:18 AM

Hey Gatekeeper....

Note also that many of the cases of the 1980s the potential perpetrator, or predator back in those days did not have to contend with a potential victim with a cell phone or pepper spray, like now.

So his M.O. has perhaps changed with the times....force or run someone off the road, create some type of road hazzard and wait? Then after the "accident" occurs, he watches and tried to figure out if the potential victim has a cell phone or is using the cell phone, or if it even works in that area.

Example: I have a cell phone and live in Rural NH..there are just a few places it actually works, because of the mountains interfere with the signal.

Perhaps this is the same perpetrator..moved north because people generally in the centarl part of the states of VT and NH were wary....Perhaps, hes in his 50s now, and just doesnt have the energy of youth to confront and subdue a potential victim, so this "trickery" is more "necessary".

He also may have moved north to the still less populated areas because he is a "loner"...its harder to hide what he has been doing where he used to because of population growth (Claremont NH, Lebanon NH, White River Jct VT) in the 1990s.

Grassyknoll2

04-21-2005, 11:12 PM

There is another site, Ibrattleboro, where they have talked about the serial killer from the 80's. A former VTSP, named Terry Martin, states the following:

In April 1987 until 1994, I worked out of Rockingham covering this whole Troop "D" area as the Crime Prevention/Public Information Officer and was very close to this case on the Vermont side. Off the top of my head, at that time, there were ten (10) unsolved homicides - three (3) on the Vermont side and seven (7) on the New Hampshire side. The three on our side were: Barbara Agnew, Sarah Hunter and Linda Moore. Amazingly, the majority of the woman were professionals and wore white uniforms or uniforms. ALL, as I remember, were killed by a knife as the weapon.

Barbara Agnew was a Nurse at the Dartmouth/Hitchcock Clinic and was killed in the first rest area (northbound) on I-89 in Sharon - Sarah Hunter was a Golf Pro and was murdered on the westside of our state, but left in the Woodstock area - Linda Moore was killed in her home (within visible distance of I-91) in Saxtons River.

In short, then came the case where a woman was obducted when she went into the bathroom at the southbound Putney Rest Area. This woman, under horrendous conditions that followed, was very wise leaving trace evidence in a tractor and trailer rig driven by the perpitrator. This later convicted her assailant.

Since this arrest, to the best of my knowledge, there have not been any further homicides, at least in the Connecticut Valley area, either side of the river.

http://www.ibrattleboro.com/article.php?story=2005030514582533

There is more you might find interesting there. I would respectfully disagree with Terry Martin about there not being any further homicides...may just not in the immediate area, but Silky has given a good reasoning as to why there may not be any in that area. There is also another woman mentioned in his post that is not in Silky's list...Sarah Hunter. I've not been able to find anything on the arrest of person who abducted the woman and according to Ginsburg's book, "Shadow of Death" her description didn't match with any of the prime 'persons of interest' in the case at the time. As to Sarah Hunter, Barbara Agnew and Lynda Moore, they are all listed on the VTSP site as unsolved homicides as of five minutes ago, as is two other women I've wondered about Angela Blouin she was last seen in Derby, VT and found in Newport, VT on 5/30/93 and Catherine Maranville, she was reported missing from Glens Falls NY in 1983 and found in Chittenden, VT in 1987.

As to Aime Riley....I believe she was bludgeoned.

pugsley

04-22-2005, 11:07 AM

These are girls missing/murdered in or near Rockingham County:(Southern NH)

Found murdered- Diane Compagna, Anne Psaradelis 1973 found in Candia, NH. (from Merrimack.)

Missing (I don't think any are classified as runaways):

Rachael Garden, Newton, NH. 1980
Laureen Rahan, Manchester, NH 1980
Shirley McBride, Concord, NH 1984
Tammy Belanger, Exeter, NH 1984

pugsley

04-22-2005, 11:19 AM

I have no clue where that purple face came from. It was suppose to be a parenthsis.

Good thing it was frowning and not smiling.

LazyCat08

04-22-2005, 12:03 PM

You must have hit the " : " key
: + ( = :(

Hammerized

04-22-2005, 04:28 PM

As to Aime Riley....I believe she was bludgeoned. Yes, that is all (the latest) I had read, too. Who knows what else they learned from her autopsy... probably a little more than they released, but I'd bet not much, given the state of decomposition.

I think there was talk of a sexual assault or sexual encounter that went wrong due to the clothing strewn about the area. IIRC, there was some notion that she was at least partially re-dressed in clothing other than her own. Socks, I believe.

Some information about her on the night she was last seen is that she was witnessed arguing- "in a screaming match" according to one witness- with a man in a parking lot of a bar. This was after she was asked to leave the Hog's Trough bar for being underage.

It makes me ill that local police parked 20 feet from her body for months (speed traps) and she wasn't noticed. I drove by her body 5 days a week, it was just off the road, and when she was found in the spring thaw, it made me so sad. Even the man who saw her body said that he had been looking at her for weeks out his window and "assumed" she was a pile of mud and brush at the edge of the marsh. The police parked a lot closer to her than this guy's house. Would that they had been more observant of their surroundings while sitting in the car for hours waiting to catch speeders. :(

Boxerz

04-22-2005, 04:53 PM

Good point, Grassyknoll.....

Most of the earlier abductions and killings, like Sarah Hunter, were "close-quarters" types of killings, requiring the killer and victim to be well within eachothers personal space...i.e..stabbing, strangling, bludgeoning. This sometimes suggests that this person/attacker might have intimacy problems, or requires a struggle in close contact with other people in a remote setting. Abductions and control, taken to remote areas, shows a loner type of person.

Remember the movie The Vanishing (?) the English version, i think it was....where they guy spends hours and hours "practicing" in his yard on how to lure someone into his vehicle with some romantic fantasy confusing him at the same time. At one point durring the movie they show him picking people up and figuring out how to gain their trust...not killing them, or harming them, just giving them a ride and "practicing".

This is really a Jekkyl/Hyde type of person...has learned how to "act", with practice and given the situation....might be a samartitan one day to a stranded motorist, the persons worse nightmare the next day, next hour, next minute.

It is easy to imagine that this "predator" around here (VT/NH) probably has done much the same thing, even going so far as to actually picking people up along the road, or offering a ride, without doing anything...just "practicing" how to hide his real intentions or fantasies.

Boxerz

04-22-2005, 05:48 PM

Just Twenty minutes west of Maura Murrays accident in NH, in VT, ten years earlier, Audrey Groat
Disappeared 8/21/93 from Northfield VT Park and Ride.

Groat disappeared on 08-21-93 at 8: pm from the Northfield Park and Ride, off exit 7, off of I-89. After a day of shopping in Burlington VT, her friend had left her off at the Park and Ride where Groat had parked her car. In the following days her car was recovered and her purse found in nearby bushes. At the time she was a 41 years old, mother of six children. white female, five foot six inches tall, 120 pounds with dyed blond hair and blue eyes. She resided in Northfield at the time of her disappearance. Her disappearance was extremely suspicious. She has been missing for eleven years and is presumed deceased.

Boxerz

04-22-2005, 06:05 PM

Jessica Ann Capille

Missing from Manchester or up north Bethlehem NH?

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?

Some reports have Jessica missing from Manchester NH, some other have her missing from Bethlehem NH..which is it?..I mean, Bethlehem NH and Manchester NH are 60-70 miles apart, Manchester is Urban/Bethlehem is very Rural...if she is missing from Bethlehem, then that puts her in the same section of woods (Northeast Kingdom) as Brianna Maitland and Maura Murray right?

Morag

04-22-2005, 08:36 PM

You guys are giving me the willies! My son attends school in New Hampshire, and I drive through the Manchester/Nashua/Concord corridor on a very regular basis! New England always seems so safe--I never associate it with this type of crime. Some years Vermont has no murders at all. This could be one guy operating over a 35 year period...like BTK.

Sheromom

04-22-2005, 09:19 PM

I have no clue where that purple face came from. It was suppose to be a parenthsis.

Good thing it was frowning and not smiling.Lol! At least you interjected some humor for me into this gruesome topic!:)

gatetrekker44

04-24-2005, 12:58 AM

more info and awareness that are posted here may possibly save someone in the future

You guys are giving me the willies! My son attends school in New Hampshire, and I drive through the Manchester/Nashua/Concord corridor on a very regular basis!

But what really gets me about all of these cases is that LE does NOT seem to realize that some of them bear eerie similarities-and have not apparently acted in a manner that seems reasonable(like creating a task force to deal with these crimes!)One of the reasons that serial killers are able to get away with their deeds for so long is that they count on different LE entities not to cooperate with each other(its that territorial mentality)and they act within a certain area but make their area wide enough that multiple jurisdictions are usually involved.

Morag, if this post makes you take even one extra precaution while you are driving in this area, I will feel that something has been accomplished.

Boxerz

04-24-2005, 06:13 AM

Sudzi

04-24-2005, 07:00 AM

Gate...exactly...it is actually safer here than many places, excercising simple precaution and awareness ANYWHERE is a good idea.

And remember-Panic can act like a rollercoaster on the psyche, look at NYC when Son of sam was on the loose, or the Hillside Strangler in CA...some of our worse fears snowball and are of our own making or imagining.

We all have inner "alarm bells", some hear and amplify them, it is not bad, its simple human survival instinct at work.

The danger around here is this northern VT/NH....if, emphasis on IF....if something happens to you, it is indeed rural, less possible witnesses.

In an city or urban seting there are usually more people around, thats why cases in urban areas are resolved.
I agree Boxerz, it is safer here than most places. And you hit the nail right on the head about witnesses too.
If something happens to you here, there are just not a lot of people around to witness or to help....your on your own.
I just drove the 18 miles to work, through two towns.....and I didn't see a single soul or sign of one. It's prime ground for someone who's inclined to do bad things.

Hammerized

04-24-2005, 05:23 PM

Finding a legacy for one victim
http://unionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=53785 (http://unionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=53785)

Manchester Deputy Police Chief Richard O’Leary on Friday told the Sunday News that Amie Riley’s murder remains very much an open, active case. And he said the investigators working on it have stayed in touch with her family. “Quite simply, their daughter is a human being, and as far as our investigators, she’s not going to disappear.”

“She will not be forgotten,” he said. “And it’s progressing slowly, but I can assure you slow progress is better than no progress.”

“Is this impossible to solve? Absolutely not. Are we hopeful? Absolutely,” O’Leary said.

And Jeffery Strelzin, chief of the homicide unit for the Attorney General’s office, said two prosecutors from that office are assigned to the Riley investigation, which he said is ongoing.

“With this type of case, the public doesn’t see the work that’s being done, but Manchester is doing a lot of work on this case and they have done a lot of work,” Strelzin said. “They’re moving forward on the case, but we’re not at the stage to make an arrest.”
[...]
State Sen. Jack Barnes, R-Raymond, agreed to sponsor Senate Bill 46, which calls for police to file a missing persons report in the NCIC computerized database immediately under certain conditions. Among them:

¤ the person missing is disabled or senile and thus could be a danger to himself or others;
¤ circumstances indicate the disappearance may not be voluntary;
¤ after a catastrophe; or,
¤ when there is “reasonable concern” for the person’s safety.

The bill passed the Senate last month. After a hearing on April 12 before the House Criminal Justice and Public Safety Committee, the measure was sent to a subcommittee, which began working on it last week.

Morag

04-24-2005, 06:20 PM

Morag, if this post makes you take even one extra precaution while you are driving in this area, I will feel that something has been accomplished.

Thanks for your concern--I am probably in more danger from my bat out of hell driving style than I am from a serial killer!
The (seemingly) similar cases over a 25 year period would be an interesting case for a journalist to pursue--would anyone mind if I sent these summaries to a New Hampshire newsperson?

Boxerz

04-25-2005, 09:40 AM

That would be great Morag, but i have tried numerous times..i have found that some news agencies in VT and NH do not like to talk about the missing and unsolved too much...

And why? You might wonder.

Because one news guy came out and told me this "we have to consider our sponsors first". In other words....Many of the major money sponsors of newspapers, etc, in VT and NH are tourism based, ski areas, lakes region attractions, Fall foliage tours, real estate agencies that specialize in seasonal homes and rental properties. The kinds of businesses that are easily effected by such publicity.

So i went higher, went to Fox, CNN...but the missing and unsolved cases are so long, to detail even half of them might take more than an hour program.

At one time, Lifetime TV and NBC considered doing a TV movie, based on Ginsburgs Book, "The Shadow Of Death" but it was too long and complicated to fit into 2 hours, minus commercials.

Peabody

04-25-2005, 12:28 PM

--would anyone mind if I sent these summaries to a New Hampshire newsperson?
Morag, how sweet of you to ask if anyone would mind.....but none of us should mind because we all need to choose the "right" course of action, not the "pleasing" course of action........

If this situation concerns us, until we are convinced of positive action on behalf of LE, we should all contact the NH LE and news media on a regular basis.

I know of two newspapers in NH who carried the Maura Murray story that were concerned about taking a stand *against* the action of NH SP because NH LE would not continue to call them with news tips and updates about other crimes.......news is their business.....if they don't get it first, they are out of business........

This brings one back to choosing the "right" action, not the "pleasing" action. It takes courage to do the "right" thing.

Boxerz

04-26-2005, 08:51 AM

Grassyknoll2

04-28-2005, 07:42 AM

Boxerz,

Your map is very helpful to get a sense of where these people have disappeared or been murdered. You must have spent a long time researching this information. Thank you for sharing this with the forum.

dannyodie

04-28-2005, 08:21 AM

boxerz, what a dedicated job you are doing. looking at those maps makes one begin to wonder about the person that caused so many heartaches for families. somewhere out there and maybe even within view of your map the perps. are there. I don't know a lot of the vermont and new hampshire police depts. but have read a lot of post for maury, and makes me wonder if the mickey mouse club could do a better job on these missing persons cases. someone knows something about maury, I have a strong insite that the person responsible for maurys disappearence, that the police has talked to him not knowing of his involvement. maybe they will come back across it.

Boxerz

04-28-2005, 09:39 AM

Thanks...i kind of had to get the 35,000 feet, overhead perspective myself....of the problem here in NH, especialy of unsolved homicides...as well as missing persons, missing under ususual circumstances.

As you can see from the unsolved homicides..its more than what i had originally thought, say a year ago...BTW...that's not all of them either, i missed quite a few, ten or so...i realize now as i have reviewed notes.

And yeah its exhausting too to think of all of this heartache, too, for other people, the dozens and dozens of families have been turned upside down and disrupted...I thought quite a lot about that as i was making the maps.

Lene

04-28-2005, 11:33 AM

Hello...

I have been reading your posts about missing NH women.

The family and friends of Tina and Bethany Sinclair, missing from West Chesterfield, NH for four years, have created a new website, you may already have visited.

But, we would like to extend the invitation for you to visit the site.

New information/details have been released that the public has not been aware of until now.

Thank you for allowing me to post here at your site....I try not to spam any sites just for the advertising purposes.

Sincerely,
Leneonme48@msn.com (Leneonme48@msn.com) (Admin./friend of Sharon Garry's-Tina's sister/Bethany's aunt)

Our site URL is:
http://p066.ezboard.com/bstartingwithsinclair (http://p066.ezboard.com/bstartingwithsinclair)

*You don't have to be a member to post.

Hammerized

04-28-2005, 11:59 AM

Hi Lene,
I've been to your website before & had familiarized myself with Tina & Bethany's case. You seem to *know* what happened to them, yes?

Do you think V may have something to do with these mysterious disappearances/murders of other young women in NH/VT?

Hammerized

04-28-2005, 12:03 PM

With some frustration of the lack of press coverage and followup on unsolved homicides and missing persons in VT and NH, i decided to start a site.....its still well under construction, but published and accessible, when i am not working on it....

http://community.webtv.net/SilkyBoxerz/MissingPersons/
Great, thank you! Mapping them out is important, and I think some people need to see that sometimes before it dawns on them that something's up.

I know you said it's under construction, but don't forget Amie Lynn Riley- she'd go on your unsolved homicide list between #52 Louise Chaput and #53 Christina Lunceford. :)

gatetrekker44

04-29-2005, 12:50 AM

What dedication and determination you have! Being fairly new at tracking info of this type, I am awed by the methodical approach you have shown towards getting this info out there in a format that even LE agencies should be able to understand! I hope some of them out there are taking a good, hard look at your work-then maybe some real live detective work will be forthcoming! Bless you Boxerz, for all your hard work-I hope it pays off in BIG dividends!

Bring Maura home!

CyberLaw

04-29-2005, 03:29 PM

Is there any forensic evidence, or any evidence at all conecting any of these crimes to each other?

Are all of the "missing women" victims of a "serial killer"?

Are they all victims of a crime?

Anything ?????

Same fibres, M.O. weapon, cause of death, evidence, location, anything at all??????

i don't see how any of these cases are related except that they happened in the Vermont/New Hamsphire area over the last 20-30 years and that they are unsolved.

You have to look at facts that are the same, and I don't see it.

Different location, different ages, different methods of death, different circumstances, extremely different years, different weapons.

What is the same about these unsolved murders that lead people to the conclusion that a specific serial killer(s) is/are responsible for all of this crime over these many years.

So a women was murdered in 1993, 20 minutes away from where Maura had her "accident".

So?????????

Serial Killers tend to kill very similar type of people, that fulfills the "fantasy" they have.

They also don't usually vary in the method of killing because it is linked to the "fantasy".

It is ritualized fantasy.

I don't see how these are related except for the fact that they were murders in the New Hampshire and Vermont Area spanning a time frame of many, many years.

Which in the States (any state) is not unusual.

Tell me what is the same about these murders, all of the victims and I will analyze it.

You can enter information into VICAP to see if the circumstances and evidence of murders are somehow connected. This would be nationwide.

It would be very unusual for them to change methology of their crimes and the victimology of their "victims".

The reason the Hillside Strangler(s) was identified as such (serial killers) was because of all of the similiarities in various seemingly unconnected murders.

Tell me what is the same about all of the unsolved murders in New Hampshire and Vermont. Tell me what is the same about the "missing women" and I will take a look at that also.

In the City where I live, which has a population of 4-5 million, we had 56 murders last year.

Please.....were all of those related to each other also because all of the people were murdered in the same City.

That would be No.

The movie the Vanishing is a work of fiction the writer of this movie is Tom Krabbe.

gatetrekker44

04-29-2005, 07:40 PM

-the reason Ted Bundy was able to get away with his crimes for so long was because he was a "serial killer of opportunity"-he would go to a certain area and wait until some unsuspecting person put themselves in his path and he was able to move in for the kill. He also moved around the country-and when he was caught in FL, he had killed a group of coeds in their dorm and THEN killed a 12 year old girl! There are different kinds of serial killers-some of whom don't have a certain victim type per se, but it is their LOCATION and that they are vulnerable at the time the serial killer is looking for a victim. There are also "spree killers"-people that kill within a certain time frame and area then "cool off" before becoming active again. So while not all of the murders and missing may be related-there are enough similarities in quite a few of them to raise suspicion.

Bring Maura home!

Hammerized

04-30-2005, 03:25 AM

Interesting... some folks over in VT have been talking about this, too.

Connecticut River Serial Killer Meetup
http://www.ibrattleboro.com/article.php?story=2005030514582533

Then read this older thread, from May, 2004:
The Connecticut River Serial Killer
http://www.ibrattleboro.com/article.php?story=20040511132029745

Especially the posts by "milly" who claims she was abducted in 1985 and thinks her abductor was the killer. Was he ever caught? Was it Gary Schaefer or someone else? Someone in LE, as others believe? :eek:

I wonder if, rather than trying to get the media to look into this or the (cough) police, it wouldn't be more helpful to instead contact Mr. Ginsburg and Mr. Philpin... See what they think.

I could e-mail them. What do you think?

Grassyknoll2

04-30-2005, 11:17 AM

This is perhaps the most comprehensive articles that I have found on serial killers.

Unlike Hollywood's Hannibal Lecter or the real-life Ted Bundy, not all serial killers present an easy-to-spot profile ripe with rituals, methods and arcane messages. Many remain unnoticed for years because their crimes show little or no common link.

……..

A new way of thinking

Those who study serial murder -- including some who wrote books about it -- say their definitions have changed as they have learned more about the little-understood phenomenon.

........

At the time, the FBI's Uniform Crime Report allowed just five categories to describe murder.

"That was totally inadequate," Ressler said. "So we put our heads together and came up with 43 different classifications."

Among them, mass murder -- killing three or more people in one incident -- and spree killings, several murders one after another.

Ressler's group defined serial murder as "three or more murders (with) a cooling-off period between the crimes. That's serial homicide. It's very much based on a fantasy that builds and builds during this cooling-off period that leads to premeditation and planning for the next murder."

The FBI has since tinkered with that definition, reducing the number of homicides to two, said Larry Ankrom, Unit Chief of the bureau's Behavioral Science Unit-West Region.

But even that definition isn't steadfast.

"Even one murder can distinguish someone as a serial killer," said Robert Keppel, a former King County detective who worked the Bundy and Green River cases and is now one of the foremost experts on multiple murders. "The characteristics in a single-victim homicide can help you predict if the killer is going to do it again."

And even crimes short of murder, including rape or assault, can lead authorities to conclude the attacker may also be a serial killer.

Even while trying to define the phenomenon, criminologists warn that trying to be too precise can have deadly consequences.

Steve Egger, an internationally known authority on serial homicide and pattern crimes, said too much is made of defining spree, mass and serial killers. He figures a serial can happen with two murders.

"It's frustrating," said Egger, a former homicide detective who now teaches at the University of Houston-Clear Lake. "There are a whole range of theories, some good, but they don't match all the killers out there."

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/109156_sinclairmissing21.shtml

CyberLaw

04-30-2005, 04:24 PM

From the website: http://www.uplink.com.au/lawlibrary/Documents/Docs/Doc5.html

. Finally, 71% of the killers operate in a specific location or area, rather than traveling wide distances to commit their crimes"(Apsche, 1993, p.16).

But one thing that very few definitions include is that for a killer to be known as a "serial Killer", they must have a particular method to their killings. For instance, Wayne Gacy, had the trade mark of gagging victims with their own underwear so that they would die in their own vomit.I

Detailed, ongoing research by the F.B.I shows that many convicted serial killers enact their crimes because of the incredibly rich, detailed and elaborate violent fantasies (including the act of murder) that have developed in their minds as early as the age of seven and eight.

Through the use of murder and mayhem, the serial killer literally chases his dream. With each successive victim, he attempts to fine tune the act, striving to make his real life experiences as perfect as his fantasy (Apsche, 1993).

It is not so much the celebrity statues that they so enjoy, but instead the ability to control the lives of thousands of area residents, who are held in their grip of terror.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_killer

Forensic evidence built up over a number of murders shows the patterns of behaviour and the distinct character of the crimes, making for speedier identification of subsequent crimes—hence the more rapid examination of new crime sites and the collection of evidence that would otherwise deteriorate due to time or less skilled handling.

I did not find any of the previous links factually regarding the alleged Conn. Serial Killer. I did not find anything informative about it either.

I thought this thread was about the so called missing women in NH, not a historical "alleged" serial killer in another state.

From one of the letters, a man was arrested and apparently these so called "serial killings stopped". So the relevance of this to this thread would be??

I "googled" Conn. Serial Killer - it returned Michael Ross, we all know about him and the death penalty. But it did not return anything about the "alleged historical serial killer" from the 1970's.

So enough already........

SPREE KILLER FROM:

http://crime.about.com/od/serial/a/killer_types.htm

Gatekeeper: Sorry to correct you, (yet again) but:

Spree Killer:

These murderers kill two or more victims, but in more than one location. Although their murders occur in separate locations, their spree is considered a single event, because there is no "cooling off" period between the murders. Robert Polin is an example of a spree killer. In October 1975 he killed one student and wounded five others at a Ottawa high school after earlier raping and stabbing a 17-year-old friend.

You cannot say that ANY murders are related unless you know the "signature" of the killer, the evidence.

Lets just say for example: A women early 20's is found, a pink scarf strangled her and she had bite marks on her shoulders, she was found near water. She as found in a posed position

A month later another women, late teens, a pink scarf strangled her and she had bite marks on her legs and shoulder. She was found near a small pond. She was found in a posed position..

Two weeks later another women, mid 20's, a pink scarf stranged her and she had bite marks on her arm, leg and shoulder, she was found near a dam. She was found in a posed position.

A week later, another women in her early 20's, a pink scarf strangled her, she had bite marks on her legs. She was found at a lake. She was found in a posed position.

All four are victims of the same killer.

Do you see what I mean now: The Police can now safely say: That there might be a probable serial killer in their midst.

Spree Killer:

Pissed off at the whole world especially the people at work, where he was fired yesterday.

H wakes up one morning grabs his gun and goes to work, shoots the security guard, the secretary, the boss, his supervisor, then he goes across the street, shooting anyone in his path. The girl at the bus stop, the man riding his bike, the women leaving the store.

He is wallking down the street, people are hiding, he is shot dead by a Police Sharpshooter.

That is an example of a spree killer........on a killing spree

Boxerz

04-30-2005, 11:45 PM

Nowhere in the site i have started does it say "these unsolved homicides are connected"..nor does it say that the "Missing" are connected either. Simply and overhead view, with names and dates for people to do their own research and decide for themselves which might be connected and which might not be connected.

Did i say that the movie "The Vanishing" was a true story? No. It was an accurate example of how some predators practice.
Cyberlaw...Be very careful when reading between the lines where there is nothing written. Do you ever get out from behind the computer and actually look into old news articles from before the days of internet? Just curious.

Grassyknoll2

05-01-2005, 12:16 AM

There were a few common things running through the cases of the women murdered.
Many were missing persons--some for several years.
Many were thought to have run away to start a new life.
Many also worked in jobs in nursing homes or hospitals and were known to wear uniforms.
All were believed to have been stabbed (except a couple of earlier murders which were believed to be connected...they were strangled).

One of the things that connected the cases for police was an autopsy done on one women's badly decomposed body...a V-shaped cut into a bone was believed to have been caused by a knife wound similar to other bodies found.

When the originally disappeared or were reported as missing some had been seen walking, one was at a pay phone, one woman's car was found abandoned.

Lynda Moore apparently did not work in a job that required a uniform, was last seen alive at her home and found on her property. What tied her to the Connecticut Valley Serial Killer is the knife wounds.

Until these missing women are found either sipping Pina Colata's on Bimini or dead in the woods in NH nobody can say with any degree of certainty whether these women are alive or dead or whether the cases are connected. In most of the cases believed by police to be connected, there doesn't appear to be any forensic evidence. In fact in many there isn't even a known crime scene...no signs of a struggle, no witnesses (at least none who have come forward, it would appear).

Hammerized

05-01-2005, 09:14 PM

I did not find any of the previous links factually regarding the alleged Conn. Serial Killer. I did not find anything informative about it either.

I thought this thread was about the so called missing women in NH, not a historical "alleged" serial killer in another state. Yes, this thread IS about "so called" missing women in NH (and VT). Take a look at a map, and you will see that these two states are:
1. next to each other,
2. separated by the Connecticut river, and
3. they happen to be small states, and the murdered & missing are scattered around and across the river in both states. The state of Connecticut has nothing to do with this!

Have you checked out the book "The Shadow of Death: The Hunt for a Serial Killer" yet? At the time some of these women went missing or turned up dead, a killer named Gary Schaefer was plying his trade in the area. He killed at least 3 women up until 1983, but there were other murders happening at the same time that were unlike his, and so this forensic psychologist and author got together with the police and other investigators to check it out. THAT is the connection some of us are talking about.

From one of the letters, a man was arrested and apparently these so called "serial killings stopped". So the relevance of this to this thread would be??

I "googled" Conn. Serial Killer - it returned Michael Ross, we all know about him and the death penalty. But it did not return anything about the "alleged historical serial killer" from the 1970's.

So enough already........
Try "Connecticut River Valley killer" and "Valley Killer." No wonder your "google" didn't help you. Golly, I found a few right off.

http://www.geocities.com/verbal_plainfield/coldcases/valleykiller.html

Here's a post from someone clumping these cases all about 20 miles around Claremont, NH (across the river from VT):
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm93744.html

Another from the same board, calling them "Connecticut River Knife murders" :
http://www.unsolvedmysteries.com/usm66281.html

Another post:
http://p075.ezboard.com/fisthatso89415frm46.showMessage?topicID=166.topic

A blurb from the AP in The Tech (MIT paper) from April, 1986, right after Bearnice Courtmanche's remains were found:

http://www-tech.mit.edu/archives/VOL_106/TECH_V106_S0356_P002.pdf
"Task force focuses on border murders
A special New Hampshire-Vermont task force investigating
possible links in murders along their borders will
focus on four of the deaths. Assistant Attorney General
Robert Muh of New Hampshire said there is no concrete
evidence that any of the killings are linked, but that no
matter how many killers there are, they are still free and
may kill again.

Muh said the deaths the group will focus on include
those of two women whose bodies were found in woods in
the same section of Newport, who disappeared in 1984.
They were 27-year-old Ellen Fried of Claremont, whose
remains were found in September, and 17-year-old Bernice
Courtemanche, whose skeletal remains were found
last weekend.(AP)"

So "enough already" right back atcha. If you can't see any similarities, and I doubt you will as you don't seem to be grasping the most simplest facts- like location- then just don't read our posts. They appear to agitate you. :waitasec:

gatetrekker44

05-02-2005, 12:52 AM

uniform connection-Maura Murray was enrolled as a NURSING student at the time of her disappearance. And CyberLaw is correct in that I misspoke about the "cooling off" period differentiating spree and serial killers(I am certainly a big enough person to admit I made a mistake!). But as pointed out by Hammerized-obviously CyberLaw only cares about correcting others-since as Hammerized pointed out NOWHERE did any of us state that the state of Connecticut was referenced-the Connecticut river was! And also-being originally from a large city(Philadelphia), you would expect a certain number of unsolved homicides and unlocated missing persons in proportion to the total number of people living in that area-and I certainly find it difficult to reconcile, from a statistical standpoint, the "groupings" of missing and murdered concentrated the way they are in relation to the actual number of folks living in these areas! :razz:

Bring Maura home!

CyberLaw

05-06-2005, 06:30 PM

Oh please, talk about making ado about nothing.

Please tell me how this link is referrenced to Maura Murray.

LE uses the word, possible. You see they know what they are talking about.

When I read a news report saying that all of these "many" crimes are linked, then I will say O.K.

But isn,'t there enough crime in the USA to not "imply" another serial killer, when there is none.

From the posts I READ, it seems that some of you want all of the missing women to be linked.

A serial killer in our midst, boys, girls, young, old, runaways, hitchiking, traveling, at rest stops, not at rests stops, in uniform, not in uniform, mothers, single women, elderly, in home, not at home, isolated, by a pay phone.

I am going to look up the population in NH/Vermont and compare it to other states, unsolved killings, missing women.

Only if I find an "extraordinary" amount in NH/Vermont then would I be interested.

They would all have to have other similiarities also.

A "blurb' from 1986, what about 2005, something recent.

Not almost 20 years ago. I guess nothing came from that investigation into the so called Conn. Valley Serial Killer.

What is relevant and factual to date.

Thank you gatetrekker, it go to a person character to admit they are wrong. Even more so to do it publicly.

Unfortunately I am right often, mistaken infrequently, but yes I do admit when I am wrong also.

I look at it as an unpleasant learning experience.

As someone pointed out, NH is a rural state dottted with small and larger cities/town/counties

So it makes sense that a "killer" would dispose of a body in a rural area, as NH/VT terrain.

So finding bodies in rural areas is not unusual.

Remember LE has the knowledge, evidence, reports, investigative techniques that average people are not privvy to.

No one yet to my knowledge in LE has said that all of the "unsolved killing and or missing women are connected".

The simple fact that bodies are all over the state would lead me to believe that no serial killer exists.

Guess what bodies may be found in a similar area, but trying to "convince" me of a serial killer by location alone would be "irresponsible" on my part, if I took notice.

You mean someone has written a book on this so called "serial killer", gee, I wonder how much money they made off this "theory" that a serial killer is or was running around NH/VT.

It makes sense for them to perpetuate this myth to sell books.

I know when other countries issue and advise tourists about travel advisories to the USA that they warn about racism and gun violence, but not serial killers.

Grassyknoll2

05-07-2005, 02:02 PM

I mistakenly scrolled through the posts last night without signing in...the "ignore" list only works when one is signed in. It seems the local LE were concerned enough back in the 80's to call in the FBI and profilers. They obviously felt there were enough similarities to look seriously at the issue of the bodies of women turning up murdered...A good place to search is the Union Leader...problem is they charge for articles. Note the dates on the intro to the articles below:

Published on July 21, 1989, Article 62 of 65 found.

Police Probe Ties Between Trucker, Unsolved Murders

Publication: Union Leader, The (Manchester, NH)

New Hampshire State Police are working with the FBI to see if there is a link between the unsolved murders of nine women in the Connecticut River Valley since 1981 and a truck driver charged Tuesday with kidnapping a Vermont woman, according to state police Lt. Thomas Winn.

Winn said Lt. Clay Young, who worked on the task force that investigated the unsolved murders, will share information with the federal investigators.

Published on July 21, 1989, Article 63 of 65 found.

Kidnap Suspect Probed in Webb Slaying Possible Links to 9 Unsolved Connecticut Valley Homicides Also Investigated

Author: NANCY WEST Union Leader Staff

Publication: Union Leader, The (Manchester, NH)

Page Number: 1

Correspondent

CONCORD - A New York truck driver charged with a Vermont kidnapping will be scrutinized for any link to the slaying of Pamela Webb, as well as nine unsolved homicides in the Connecticut River Valley since 1981, according to Assistant Attorney General Andrew W. Serell.

Seems that not only did LE question whether there was a serial killer they, too questioned the connections with deaths of women found murdered long after the initial murders and at least one who disappeared from Maine. I'd have to go back, but I believe that the truck driver was only prosecuted for the abduction. There are at least two other cases where FBI profilers were called in...can't find the article at the moment.

The following is an enlightening article...KEEP IN MIND I AM IN NO WAY SAYING ANY OR ALL OF THESE CASES ARE RELATED....but LE obviously think that some are. Several of the persons on the list were stabbed and/or strangled...(I have researched many of them and many appear on Boxerz list)

Published on January 4, 2000, Article 1 of 16 found.
Resolution in murder case may provide some comfort to family. Unsolved deaths in new Hampshire since 1970

Author: CISSY TAYLOR Union Leader Staff
Publication: Union Leader, The (Manchester, NH)
Page Number: a2

Part Two of a two-part series on unsolved homicides from the past 30 years. The first part ran in yesterday's Union Leader. -----

By CISSY TAYLOR Union Leader Staff Daniel O'Connell was 28 years old when he was murdered and his body dumped in a sand pit off Route 106 in Loudon. An unidentified couple trying out their new camper found the remains of the Massachusetts man on Oct. 31, 1971. His is the first identified person on a list of 100 unsolved homicides in New

(I put in a search for Pamela Webb and this article came up)

You may also want to read the latest at the Union Leader...today

5½ hours of fear in Derry

By PAT GROSSMITH and KIMBERLY HOUGHTON
Union Leader News

Charles L. Rawlings admitted he abducted a woman from a city street, slit her throat, forced her into his pickup truck, bound her with tape and then drove to Derry where he raped her repeatedly, according to court records.

........

Manchester police continue to investigate the assault and are also looking into whether Rawlings may be linked to any other similar unsolved crimes, including past homicides, O'Leary said.

"We are looking at any past conduct that may be relevant," he said. "Whenever we have cases like this, we always go back through our records to see if anything else is similar or there may be a link."

That includes reviewing the unsolved murders of several Manchester women during the last 10 years, he said.

They include Rosalie J. Miller, 36, of Manchester whose strangled body was found in Auburn in 1997 and Mindy S. West, 31, whose strangled body was discovered in the woods off Huse Road in Manchester in 1998.

Police also are investigating the murder of Amie Lynn Riley, 20, of Manchester, who disappeared after leaving a Manchester nightclub Aug. 15, 2003. Her decomposed body was found in a shallow Manchester pond in April 2004.

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=54395 (http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=54395)

Boxerz

05-08-2005, 12:55 AM

I have watched the inter NH news tickers....watching the last tenious "bust" of Rawlings.....finding myself folding my fingers and thinking.."maybe they captured those perpetrating distroying people and others lives, in southern NH.... Lunceford, Riley too...there are several victims inthat area of NH, Manchester, to the MA line.

Grassyknoll2

05-10-2005, 07:26 PM

[QUOTE=Boxerz]Nowhere in the site i have started does it say "these unsolved homicides are connected"..nor does it say that the "Missing" are connected either. Simply and overhead view, with names and dates for people to do their own research and decide for themselves which might be connected and which might not be connected.QUOTE]

I've been doing a lot of thinking about the posts on this thread....quite a while ago I came across an article from the Manchester Union Leader...it is written in January of 2000, I believe and lists 100 or more unsolved homicides in NH. I went back and reread the copy I had purchased...one of the things that I noticed was that about a third were either stabbed and/or strangled or the remains had apparently so badly decomposed that the cause of death was undetermined. I know a few of these cases have since been 'solved' and I know that there are more cases since 2000.... Other than the cause of death, I wasn't able to find out too much about the older cases or some of the newer cases for that matter, so I can't give other similarities in the cases.

One thing occured to me when I was thinking about these cases recently...from what I've read serial killing is not suspected until there are three potentially connected cases (per LE sources). It saddens me to say that I realized I would rather believe that there were 11 or fewer serial killers than 33 individual murders who are roaming our streets...literally getting away with murder. Keep in mind these numbers only reflect those who were stabbed, strangled or whose cause of death was undetermined, there are approximately 66 more on the list...I don't know whether any of these cases are connected...LE which has far more information that I do doesn't appear to know for sure from the most recent article I read where they are looking into someone for allegedly abducting and stabbing a woman (posted on this thread) and looking at possible connections to other homicides. I guess I'm just glad that they are looking at these older cases again, and that these women and their families are not being forgotten.

Gumshoe924

05-11-2005, 01:10 PM

No one here has mentioned Brianna Maitland, who disappeared from the northern NH/VT area just before the Maura Murray disappearance. The families tried for months to get LE to investigate a possible connection between the two cases, and it was only after about 9 months that LE began to consider the possibility that the cases might have been linked in some way. I haven't seen or heard much about the Maitland case recently, does anyone know what is going on with it?

nhjane

05-12-2005, 10:27 AM

Hi Gumshoe ... It's just a small thing, but in your post you say Briana disappeared just before Maura Maurray ... it was actually the other way around. Maura went missing 2/9/04 and Brianna disappeared 3/19/04.

I am sorry to say, I hear precious little about either case up here on the local news. Which is why I visit these boards I guess, because I live here and I get nervous. There have certainly been enough mysterious disappearances, missing people and remains found in this area for me to take notice, but even when you are looking for it, it is not easy to find information. Some posts I've read on this subject of missing from this area are quite chilling and I must say it has been enough to open my eyes to possible dangers that I wouldn't have considered before in my "sleepy little town".

fran

05-12-2005, 11:48 AM

I am sorry to say, I hear precious little about either case up here on the local news. Which is why I visit these boards I guess, because I live here and I get nervous. There have certainly been enough mysterious disappearances, missing people and remains found in this area for me to take notice, but even when you are looking for it, it is not easy to find information. Some posts I've read on this subject of missing from this area are quite chilling and I must say it has been enough to open my eyes to possible dangers that I wouldn't have considered before in my "sleepy little town".

Honestly nhjane:
I just started looking at this disappearance in NH/VT this weekend, and believe me, IF I lived there, I'd be nervous. Someone posted a link to two maps, one missing, one unsolved murders. The spooky thing is from what little I know, it looks like in 2001 there are several *missing* and 2004 several more *missing* around Manchester, NH. IMHO only, the LE in that area would be remiss if they did not look at these cases as related. I think they need a task force.

In the 80's, I lived in Oregon, and the big thing there was the Green River Killer in Washington State. But, .......then it stopped,.............for awhile,...........then began again. Anyway, part of the problem was some of the bodies weren't found for months and months. Then they'd suddenly find one, then another close by, then another........IF you've studied Ted Bundy, you know why they weren't able to find the bodies for awhile....... :eek:

:confused: Something's up in your neck of the woods, IMO, MOO. Please be careful!!

JMHO
fran

Marisa714

05-12-2005, 11:52 AM

NhJane,
I've been lurking here for such a long time now and finally decided to voice my own opinions. Anyways I don't think you could have been any more tactful while still getting the point across! I wish I could convey myself the same way!

LillyRush

05-12-2005, 04:11 PM

Cyberlaw, Perhaps serial killer is the wrong term. Possible repeat offender? Would that suit better? You seem to be getting caught up in the technicalities about what specifically defines a serial killer. Granted, cases should not be linked together just because they happened in the same area or because there's a need to find one suspect responsible for it all. But certainly there is cause to pay attention to these cases, even if it's not all the work of one person, at the very least there is evidence that LE in these VT/NH areas either doesn't care about solving them or they aren't the brightest crayons in the box w/ enough skills to solve them.

Going back to your cookie cutter definition of a serial killer, you seem to be forgetting recently solved cases like the BTK serial killer. He started killing nearly an entire family with the exception of one young son and then moved on to women living alone, some young..some old. Was there a pattern there? Not really, maybe after awhile, but definitely not initially. It went on for decades, probably at least partially because of the very philosophy to which you adhere re: what exactly defines a serial killer. Not every serial killer is going to be like the Vancouver, B.C. pig farm slayings where all the victims show up buried on one demented guy's pig farm. It just doesn't happen that way.

nhjane

05-14-2005, 10:39 AM

Fran,
Thanks so much for the vote of suspicion, sometimes I think I might be jumping at shadows here, but I can not deny the sinking feeling I get when yet another person is "missing" from the NH/VT area, or worse yet, human remains are found. I think SilkyBoxers puts it into perspective best just by gathering the information together in one place. It's rather unnerving for me considering that this is my neighborhood. I think perhaps some people here do not grasp just how close NH VT and ME are and how easily one could consider the entire area as a whole. Less than an hour or up to 3 hours of driving could take you to all 3 states not to mention Mass. I have often wondered if given our relatively small population, do the statistics indicate a high percentage of missing and murdered? Any info on that anyone?

Marisa,
Thank you for the compliment and I'm so pleased that you decided to voice your opinion (I've been lurking here a while myself) and I thought you did a great job of saying what's on your mind, don't stop now, It's important.
Are you from NE by any chance?

Hammerized

05-14-2005, 03:55 PM

just how close NH VT and ME are and how easily one could consider the entire area as a whole. Less than an hour or up to 3 hours of driving could take you to all 3 states not to mention Mass.
And Canada. I recall reading a while ago that Louise Chaput (slain while hiking Mt. Washington area) somehow worked with some unsavory people in her job (bikers, druggies? Counseling? I forget, but something along those lines) and at least one person close to her suspected that an individual she met through her job stalked her from Canada and killed her in NH.

I have often wondered if given our relatively small population, do the statistics indicate a high percentage of missing and murdered? Any info on that anyone?

Yeah, I was checking out the stats (Uniform Crime & DOJ) online a while ago. Very strange stats for NH and VT when broken down by sex of victims, manner of death (stabbing/strangulation) and years of death. Remove the "solveds" from those years, and the numbers definitely stuck out- IMO.

Peabody

05-15-2005, 02:45 PM

Although we do not know if there is a serial killer in the NH VT area, it seems it could be a possibility.

The following are facts vs myths regarding serial killers. These facts were compiled by Dr. Maurice Godwin. Dr. Godwin has worked with the family of Maura Murray and it is his opinion that someone has harmed Maura......of course, his opinion is of no more importance than that of any others, but I would assume that it is a very educated opinion. I do hope that he is mistaken.

Serial Killers

Myths and Facts

Myths

Facts

There are very few black serial killers

16% of serial killers are black

Most are married

17% were found to married

Most are unemployed

51% were employed

Most have high school education

44% were high school graduates

Most have previous criminal records of sex offenses

45% had previous sex offense convictions

Most have no juvenile record

55% had a criminal juvenile record

Most retain trophies of some sort

24% retained trophies

Most keep a diary of their crimes

7% kept a diary

Most interject themselves in the investigation

3% interjected themselves

Most have military service

27% had military service

Most have an emotional set-back prior to the murders

12% suffered an emotional set-back

Most use aliases

6% used an aliases

Most stalk their victims

12% stalked their victims

Most use a crime kit

31% used a crime kit

Most pose their victims

8% posed their victims

Based on 107 American serial killers who murdered 728 victims

Source: Hunting Serial Predators, 2000, Dr. Maurice Godwin

Hammerized

05-16-2005, 02:24 PM

Thanks Peabody!

It is well to remember that the "serial killer" designation is a fairly recent one, only 20 or so years old. If you haven't read about Pierce Brooks (from LAPD) and his role in profiling them, do so. He was the main impetus behind research into these killers- well before John Douglas and the rest of them.

I think we all know (well, except for one posting here) that these cases absolutely do have enough similarities to warrant a closer look. Most serial killers throughout history, in retrospect, have been found to have "evolved" their MO and not just killed one type of victim. Actually, this is considered the norm, not the exception.

It's not rocket science. And while I know they have a tough job to do, I really think the LE in NH and VT are sticking their heads in the sand over this. Too bad these states rely heavily (mainly!) on tourism dollars. I think that affects any progress here.

Marisa714

05-16-2005, 09:03 PM

Yeah,me

05-17-2005, 05:43 AM

I really wish I had something of value to add to this discussion. I think it's great to see people actively trying to re-open old (cold) cases that would otherwise be forgotten and left to collect dust.

To CyberLaw, if you don't like what you're reading.....step away from the computer, turn it off or go somewhere else. It's obvious that you're trying to detract from positive productivity. Who cares if YOU think these cases are connected or not? If it brings someone even ONE step closer to solving any ONE of these cases.....it's worth the effort.:razz:

nhjane

05-17-2005, 08:39 AM

NHJane
Thanks for the post ;-) I am actually from Madison, WI. I just do not understand that absolutely NO progress has been made in this case, does LE even care? It seems as if they don't to me, why not consider another scenario if they aren't getting ANYWHERE? Ugh so frustrating!

I'm not sure which case you are referring to Marisa, Louise Chaput who was murdered in Franconia Notch or Maura Murray who went missing Feb. of 2004 from the Haverhill/Swiftwater area. As far as I know, both are open investigations, but no information has been released for a long time reguarding either case. I suppose that doesn't mean that LE is not investigating, in fact, I hope it's just the opposite and they are hot on the trail following leads that they can't disclose at this time. It seems as though NH SP have their hands full investigating quite a few cases ... all I can really do is watch carefully for some results.

BTW I do find it interresting that there are only 3 missing people listed on the NH SP website. Doesn't that wildly contradict the actual number of missing people I have read about on these boards and others?

Yeah,me

05-17-2005, 02:16 PM

I was dreaming about these cases all night long. I really feel like one person is responsible for several of these, but not necessarily all of them. I hope they get the ball rolling on re-processing the evidence on some of these. With new advances in technology, they should be able to find SOMETHING to give them more leads.

Marisa714

05-17-2005, 03:04 PM

NhJane

I'm sorry! I was referring to Maura Murray! Whoops!

Marisa

Peabody

05-19-2005, 02:31 AM

http://www.bringbrihome.org/forums/...p?showtopic=429 (http://www.bringbrihome.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=429)

This is a link to a newstory about a search by CT divers in a Bershire Pond and also a search with cadaver dogs to find Bri.

The search was described by one news show as being "excercises"

This was of particular interest to me because only a few weeks ago, there were reports of a search for Maura Murray with LE excavating a sand pit in Haverhill NH. In the Haverhill Newspaper, Chief Williams denied the rumor of a search for Maura, but did say that NH LE was participating with the FBI in "exercises".

:confused: :confused: :confused:

nhjane

05-20-2005, 12:29 AM

Well I find that really interresting, Peabody, quite a coincidence ....
I had heard the rumors about them finding a body in the Haverhill pit and that Chief Williams issued a small release in a very small, local free paper saying that there was nothing found. It was just a rumor. Some local town people I know from Woodsville said that it was quite the to-do with many LE officials and fbi searching and using an excavater in at least 3 locations.
And may I add that I didn't see or hear anything about any "excersises" on my local news (WMUR)
It does seem a bit odd, you would think that the police would want people to know that they are out there "practicing". Would LE need to keep search procedures a secret for some investigative reason? But in any case, I hope it means they are out there looking as the VSP seem to be doing. I'm happy for the Maitlands that they have a new investigator that seems to be doing a thorough job and working together with the family. My thoughts are with them and all the families up here missing their loved ones.

Hammerized

05-20-2005, 10:56 AM

City detectives question woman in Amie Lynn Riley murder
http://unionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=54998
Manchester detectives brought a woman back from North Carolina Monday to question her about the unsolved Amie Lynn Riley murder case, police sources said. Detectives Nick Willard and Ryan Grant, lead investigators in the homicide, brought back Carrie Jean Menard, 27, formerly of 4 Maple St., Apt. 3, Derry, on a governor's warrant charging her with welfare fraud.

On Wednesday, investigators were seen at Menard's former home removing some carpeting from the apartment and taking photographs of the exterior of the building.
[...]
Neighbor John Lang said police and an evidence-collection crew in white suits searched the apartment Wednesday, removing a nearly room-sized roll of carpet. "There was some special unit," he said.

Lang said he climbed the fire escape, looked inside the second-story apartment and saw a dark stain on the floor where the carpet had been cut away.

"It looks like something soaked through," he said.

A layer of the wooden floor had been removed by yesterday.

Police also visited last week with a photographer, Lang said.

Hammerized

05-20-2005, 06:45 PM

OMG, wow!

Woman Charged With Murder In Manchester Death

Body Of Missing Woman Found 1 Year Ago

http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/4512334/detail.html
A woman originally charged with welfare fraud was charged with first-degree murder Friday in the death of Amie Lynn Riley. :clap::clap::clap: I was beginning to think they'd never get a break in this case.

fran

05-20-2005, 07:28 PM

Hammerized

05-20-2005, 10:07 PM

Wonder if there's more to this story?
I'm sure there's a whole lot more to it. I am so glad LE kept this close to them. I wonder if this woman was the person Amie was with at the show before she had to leave.

Peabody

05-20-2005, 11:42 PM

I know Amiee's mother was heartbroken that she could not get the police to look for her daughter........I am glad that the police have caught her alleged murderer.

Peabody

05-20-2005, 11:51 PM

Wow! :eek:
Interesting turn of events. A woman beating another to death. :mad: Or,......did she have help? :waitasec:

Wonder if there's more to this story?

This was the only unsolved murder for NH on the list for 2003 (at least the one I have).

Shocking!
fran
Fran, where did you get your list ?

I found this info regarding 3 other unsolved murders in NH:

Investigators Stalled In Three Cases
POSTED: 5:20 pm EDT May 18, 2005
CONCORD, N.H. -- Three mysterious death cases in Concord may soon be given a jumpstart based on a significant cash reward being offered.
The murder of Judy Lord, the disappearance of Shirley Ann McBride and the suspicious death of David Braley have gone unsolved for years. Concord Regional Crimeline is hoping to change that with a $5,000 reward for information on the cases.
"There's substantial evidence in each one of these cases, but not enough to charge anyone or move forward with a prosecution, and that's why this appeal is being made," Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Strelzin said.

McBride, 15, disappeared while on a walk in 1984, leaving behind money, clothing and other personal items. Braley's body was found in the Merrimack River in 1990, four months after he was last seen at a Concord nightclub where witnesses say he was involved in a fight.
Foul play is suspected in both of the cases, but the only one of the three that has been officially ruled a homicide is the 1975 murder of Judy Lord. The mother of a 17-month-old son, Lord was strangled in her Concord apartment 30 years ago.
"I just was on the phone about a half hour ago with the state lab about the Lord case -- the oldest case here -- and they had some promising results in the way of DNA," Detective Todd Flanagan said.

http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/4504831/detail.html (http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/4504831/detail.html)

fran

05-21-2005, 01:44 PM

Fran, where did you get your list ?

http://community-2.webtv.net/SilkyBoxerz/MissingPersons/

This is from a fellow Websleuther. It's Boxerz and they reference it on post #32 on this thread.

Hope this helps.

fran

gatetrekker44

05-21-2005, 11:50 PM

This was in my local paper since Carrie Menard is from Monroe, NC. She had originally been extradited for welfare fraud(to the tune of $10,000.00!). She will be arraigned Monday morning for Amie Riley's murder.

silver

05-28-2005, 09:45 AM

May 27, 2005 AM EDT

CONCORD, N.H. (AP) -- The House on Thursday passed a bill to speed up the search for missing people aged 18 or over.

The bill requires local police to send a description of a missing adult to a national crime database within 72 hours of receiving the initial missing person report.

The Senate has already passed a similar measure.

Lawmakers crafted the legislation with Charlotte Riley, the mother of Amie Lynn Riley, a Manchester woman who went missing in August, 2003. Police waited more than 72 hours to list Riley in the national database because she was 21.

Police found Riley's body last April in Manchester. A former Derry woman, Carrie Menard, has been charged with her murder.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NH_XGR_MISSING_ADULT_BILL_NHOL-?SITE=NHMAL&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT (http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NH_XGR_MISSING_ADULT_BILL_NHOL-?SITE=NHMAL&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT)

gatetrekker44

05-28-2005, 03:31 PM

This is GREAT news-now NH LE must list missing adults names in a national database that all LE agencies will have access to. While this may have come too late for Amie Riley, bless her mother for pushing to get this legislation enacted. And maybe, just maybe, now that LE is required to take this step, it will give them pause to maybe INVESTIGATE a little more instead of blowing off families!

Bring Maura home!

Grassyknoll2

05-28-2005, 03:42 PM

[QUOTE=gatetrekker44]This is GREAT news-now NH LE must list missing adults names in a national database that all LE agencies will have access to. While this may have come too late for Amie Riley, bless her mother for pushing to get this legislation enacted. And maybe, just maybe, now that LE is required to take this step, it will give them pause to maybe INVESTIGATE a little more instead of blowing off families!

I couldn't agree more.......I was looking for something unrelated and found this article that appeared on WMUR.....a couple of years ago...apparently I came across it and saved it.........as Boxerz says earlier in these posts this information isn't meant to scare people......but to make them aware.....I saw a story once on 20 20 or one of those shows about listening to your feelings.........it is the first defense in any situation that could put a person in a bad postion. Too often we don't listen to our inner selves.....

Officials Say Assaults Underreported

POSTED: 10:54 a.m. EDT August 20, 2003

UPDATED: 5:10 p.m. EDT August 20, 2003

CONCORD, N.H. -- A new study from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention estimates one in every seven women in New Hampshire has been raped.

………………

The CDC report estimates that 65,000 women in the state have been raped. The CDC applied national data to New Hampshire's population to reach its conclusion.

"In reality, this mirrors my experience as a prosecutor and defense attorney," Attorney General Peter Heed said. "My true-life experience in dealing with these matters over 28 years would indicate sexual assaults are underreported."

Prosecutors said the investigation process and court system have improved to help protect victims, but they said more needs to be done.

http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/2419005/detail.html

Hammerized

06-03-2005, 04:53 PM

5½ hours of fear in Derry

By PAT GROSSMITH and KIMBERLY HOUGHTON
Union Leader News

Charles L. Rawlings admitted he abducted a woman from a city street, slit her throat, forced her into his pickup truck, bound her with tape and then drove to Derry where he raped her repeatedly, according to court records.

........

Manchester police continue to investigate the assault and are also looking into whether Rawlings may be linked to any other similar unsolved crimes, including past homicides, O'Leary said.

Just some news of note on this guy:
http://www.thewmurchannel.com/news/4565046/detail.html

Kidnap, Rape Suspect Stabbed In Jail Attack POSTED: 10:44 am EDT June 3, 2005
MANCHESTER, N.H. -- A Manchester man charged with kidnapping a woman, slitting her throat and raping her last month is recovering from stab wounds suffered in a jailhouse attack.

Charles Rawlings, 35, was stabbed in the chest and side on May 27 at the Hillsborough County Jail by another prisoner armed with a sharpened toothbrush, officials said.

murraydwyer

06-12-2005, 12:03 PM

Found this article in today's Valley News...I know it happens everywhere, but it is one of the first things I thought of when I heard about Maura Murray...somebody driving by and forcing her off the road...then waiting for her....fortunately this woman got away somehow. There is more to the story and a composite picture on the Valley News site:

Published 6/12/05

A composite sketch of the rape suspect

Cops: Rapist Forced Woman Off Route 120
By Jodie Tillman
Valley News Staff Writer
Lebanon -- Police are on the lookout for a man they say forced a woman off Meriden Road on Friday night, pulled her out of her car and sexually assaulted her.
...............

The attacker was armed with a weapon, police said, but Lt. Scott Hunt declined to say what kind. He said identifying the weapon could compromise the investigation.

According to Hunt, the woman was driving north toward Lebanon when a black Ford Ranger pickup truck passed her and sped down the road. But as the woman proceeded north, right before the Laplant Road intersection, the Ford Ranger was back and forced her off the road.

........ assaulted in a pull-off, the woman was able to get back into her car and drive away, said Hunt. He said he did not know whether her attacker let her go or whether she escaped.

.............

The woman described her attacker as a white male, approximately 6 feet tall, with a large build. He had short blond hair, blue eyes and a prominent tattoo on his left bicep. He was wearing earrings in his left ear.

..............The part of town where police said the attack occurred is rural but by no means remote: Houses with big yards come one after another on the stretch of road. A number of other residents interviewed yesterday said either they heard nothing or were not home around the time of the incident.

..........

This is the second report of a rape by a stranger this month. On June 1, a Bethel woman reported that a man had entered her house while she was sleeping and assaulted her, Vermont State Police have said.

The victim, who was alone in the house, did not give police a description of the man that they could go on. Her attacker was unarmed, police said.

Hunt said yesterday he did not know about the attack in Bethel, but “Obviously, a heightened sense of security is always good.”

Anyone with information should contact Lebanon Police at (603) 448-1212.

http://www.vnews.com/06122005/2459365.htm

chrisgil

08-29-2005, 11:12 PM

Is anyone aware of any missing woman in 1971 in New England area? Probaly from may, June, July or August of 71? Let me know if you do.
Thanks
Chrissy

mysteriew

08-29-2005, 11:54 PM

Is anyone aware of any missing woman in 1971 in New England area? Probaly from may, June, July or August of 71? Let me know if you do.
Thanks
Chrissy

Welcome to WS!
ancestry.com has a newspaper archive by state.
I don't know if this link will help you or not, but you could try. If you are not signed up for ancestry.com you can get a 14 day free trial:
http://landing.ancestry.com/Newspapers/HistoricalEvents.aspx?yr=1970&o_xid=18450&o_lid=18450&sourcecode=18450

nhjane

08-30-2005, 10:06 AM

Is anyone aware of any missing woman in 1971 in New England area? Probaly from may, June, July or August of 71? Let me know if you do.
Thanks
Chrissy

Chrissy,
This site ...

http://community-2.webtv.net/SilkyBoxerz/MissingPersons/

Has a list of the missing in vt./nh and I do see a few from 1971. Hope this helps. The person who made this site knows a lot about cases up here. SilkyBoxers may be able to answer your question?

Peabody

08-30-2005, 10:26 AM

Is anyone aware of any missing woman in 1971 in New England area? Probaly from may, June, July or August of 71? Let me know if you do.
Thanks
ChrissyFrom http://community-2.webtv.net/SilkyB...MissingPersons/ (http://community-2.webtv.net/SilkyBoxerz/MissingPersons/) compiled by Silkyboxerz

2. Jane Doe, Bedford NH, October 6, 1971

Bring Maura Home
www.mauramurray.com (http://www.mauramurray.com)
www.spbowers.com\mauramissing.html (http://www.spbowers.commauramissing.html)

pugsley

09-02-2005, 02:52 PM

Is anyone aware of any missing woman in 1971 in New England area? Probaly from may, June, July or August of 71? Let me know if you do.
Thanks
Chrissy

Hi Chrissy,

There are these two: (later than the months you inquired about)

Lynne Kathryn Schulze, missing Dec. 10th, 1971

Cathy Marie Moulton, missing Sept. 24th, 1971

They are listed at www.doenetwork.com if you need more detail.

pugsley

09-02-2005, 02:57 PM

From http://community-2.webtv.net/SilkyB...MissingPersons/ (http://community-2.webtv.net/SilkyBoxerz/MissingPersons/) compiled by Silkyboxerz

2. Jane Doe, Bedford NH, October 6, 1971

Bring Maura Home
www.mauramurray.com (http://www.mauramurray.com)
www.spbowers.com\mauramissing.html (http://www.spbowers.commauramissing.html)

Peabody,

Have you ever seen info. on this Jane Doe? I tried a while back to get specifics on her and there is no info. out there, other than the year found and the fact that it was a female.

Thanks,

Pugsley

Peabody

09-04-2005, 12:34 PM

pugsley

09-22-2005, 01:44 PM

I have guests this weekend...........will check with some of my contacts in the NE.

I will be in touch.

Bring Maura Home!

www.mauramurray.com (http://www.mauramurray.com)
www.spbowers.com\mauramissing.html (http://www.spbowers.commauramissing.html)

Peabody,

Thanks for offering to look into that jane doe. Oddly, she showed up on Doenetwork under hotcase file # 37.

Thanks again,

Pugsley

Peabody

09-27-2005, 03:24 AM

Peabody,

Thanks for offering to look into that jane doe. Oddly, she showed up on Doenetwork under hotcase file # 37.

Thanks again,

Pugsley

Jane and John Does are someone's **loved one**.

My sympathy to her family, but my heart is glad that one missing person has been found.

Bring Maura Home!
www.mauramurray.com (http://www.mauramurray.com)
www.spbowers.com\mauramissing.html (http://www.spbowers.commauramissing.html)

upallnite

10-15-2005, 02:28 PM

I seen this the story of the valley killer in a book a couple of years back, it was interesting to me at the time and then I found this thread. Does anyone notice that all of the women either missing or murdered on this site, with the exception of Christina Lunceford have one thing in common? If they went missing in New Hampshire, it was in or nearest the cold winter months and if they went missing in Vermont it was nearer the warmer months.(lot in August for some reason.) Also with the case of Barbera Agnew, she was killed in New Hampshire(or at least found there) and her personal effects were found in a dumpster in vermont, her car was later recovered at a rest stop in Vermont. Her skis were stolen,but not the other gear that goes with the skis(poles,etc...). Call me crazy, but I think this guy, if it is the same guy, lives in Vermont and goes to New Hampshire for ski season.

upallnite

10-15-2005, 04:27 PM

Also, I haven't went through them all yet, because there are so many, but of the murder victims, it seems they were either, strangled or stabbed. 2 perps? ya never know, maybe they're competing. The stabbings I've found so far are very distinctive, in the neck and in the abdomen. Almost like a signature.

Grassyknoll2

10-15-2005, 05:20 PM

http://www.pressherald.com/photos/051015moran.jpg[/url]Lynn Moran 24, Portland, ME

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Portland Police Search For Missing Woman

Posted: October 14, 2005

Police in Portland are asking for your help in finding 24-year-old Lynn Moran. She was last seen on Monday night, in Portland's old port.

Police say Lynn Moran was in Maine visiting friends and family. She grew up in the Portland area, but was living in Shrewsbury, Massachusetts.

Her family became worried on Tuesday, because she never showed up at her job Tuesday morning. Police believe Moran was last seen on Market Street in Portland's old port between 9:30 and 10:30 Monday night. They have been posting missing persons flyers in the area.

Moran is about five foot two and a hundred pounds. Friends who were with her earlier that night tell police they went home before she did. But she left her cell phone and purse at a friend's apartment.

Moran's friends and family say it would be completely out of character for her to just "take off" without telling anyone.

[url="http://www.wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=27599"]http://www.wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=27599 (http://www.pressherald.com/photos/051015moran.jpg)

LAST KNOWN MOVEMENTS OF LYNN MORAN MONDAY NIGHT
POLICE HAVE PIECED TOGETHER Lynn Moran's afternoon and evening in an effort to locate her:

2:30-3 p.m.: Moran leaves Norm's Bar and Grill on Congress Street for the Old Port.

LATE AFTERNOON-EARLY EVENING: Gritty McDuff's pub on Fore Street.

8:30 p.m.: Visits the Market Street apartment of an acquaintance.

9-10 p.m.: Seen walking along Market Street.

10-10:30 p.m.: Bull Moose Music, then Middle Street.

**********************************
Saturday, October 15, 2005

Police seek tips in search for missing woman

By DAVID HENCH, Portland Press Herald Writer

Police are seeking the public's help in their search for a 24-year-old woman who was last seen in Portland's Old Port on Monday night.

Lynn Moran, who lives in Shrewsbury, Mass., failed to show up for work Tuesday morning. Her parents, who live in the Portland area, have not heard from her. They say it is unusual for Moran not to contact friends or family for days at a time.

Moran also left her purse and cell phone in a Market Street apartment Monday night and did not retrieve her mother's car left parked near High and Congress streets.

"Because of all these things, we support the idea she is endangered," said Lt. Vern Malloch, head of the criminal investigations division.

remainder of story at http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/n...15missing.shtml (http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/n...15missing.shtml)

upallnite

10-15-2005, 07:36 PM

I really wonder where all of these women are going? I hope they find her.

murraydwyer

01-09-2006, 08:14 PM

Northeast Kingdom Woman Vanishes

Albany, Vermont - January 9, 2006

Police in the Northeast Kingdom need your help finding a missing woman.

29-year-old Tina Fontaine of Albany was last seen Friday at Bob's Quick Stop in Irasburg. Investigators will not say if her disappearance is suspicious. They also remain tight lipped if she left any family behind.

Fontaine is five feet tall and weighs 120 pounds. She was wearing a baggy grey sweatshirt and jeans. She has brown eyes and long brown hair.

Give police a call if you have any information about Fontaine's disappearance.

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4337751 (WCAX - Tina Fontaine Missing)

murraydwyer

01-11-2006, 07:57 AM

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4346935 (WCAX - Tina Fontaine)

Missing Women Prompt New Search Strategy

Albany, Vermont - January 10, 2006

"It's odd. It's very out of her character that something like this would happen," says Franky Niles.

Niles says he hasn't slept since Friday, when he kissed his girlfriend goodbye as he left their house in Albany. Tina Fontaine, 29, was last seen Friday afternoon, buying cigarettes at Bob's Quick Stop in Irasburg.

"She wouldn't just up and leave, at least without letting somebody know," Niles says.

Fontaine has lived in the Northeast Kingdom her whole life. She worked a substitute teacher at North Country High School. Her family, friends and six-year-old daughter haven't heard from her at all. Her car is in the driveway and nothing is missing from their home. She is seven weeks pregnant.

"What's going through my mind right now is everything. I feel useless, I feel helpless... there's nothing I can do," says Niles.

"At this time we have no reason to suspect foul play other than she's disappeared. We're concerned about that, but we're tracking down all the leads that are coming in and interviewing as many people and friends as we can," says Vt. State Police Lt. Leo Bachand.

State police say there is no physical evidence of a crime. But the detective division is not waiting to get involved.

"Usually the uniformed division would start on this and we would get called eventually, now we've stepped it up a little more," explains Bachand. "We have more resources, more time we can devote, where the uniformed guys are more emergency response and they have other duties with traffic and other stuff. We can commit our time and resources to a case by case basis, one case at a time."

The change-- a direct response to criticism that detectives waited too long to get involved in the disappearances of Maura Murray in Haverhill, New Hampshire and Brianna Maitland in Montgomery, both two years ago.

"Because of that we're trying to get right on that. The family deserves that. It's their daughter, their sister, they're concerned. We want to get in and do as much as we can as quick as possible," says Bachand.

Both Fontaine's boyfriend and state police hope publicity in the case will bring more leads. Anyone who has information on Fontaine is asked to call Vermont State Police.

WCAX - Tina Fontaine

Irasburg is about 22 miles from Montgomery where Brianna disappeared and 66 miles from the Woodsville/Haverhill area where Maura disappeared.

nhjane

01-11-2006, 08:34 AM

I just wanted to mention that I hadn't heard about this and can't find any info on my local tv station's website (wmur.com) about Tina Fontaine. I find this very strange. One would think that if the Vermont State police are asking for any help, that the request would be featured on our news since we are so near by.

dark_shadows

01-12-2006, 02:40 AM

strach304

01-12-2006, 07:24 AM

I would like to say the this quote was so correct and all should follow the advise that was given;

Boxerz (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/member.php?u=5942) http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/statusicon/user_offline.gif vbmenu_register("postmenu_611599", true);
Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 19

Gate...exactly...it is actually safer here than many places, excercising simple precaution and awareness ANYWHERE is a good idea.
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Be aware of your surroundings,if your "gut"says that something is not right,chances are it is not right.

Respectfully,
dark_shadows
I have lived by the rule of always being aware of your surroundings and to pay particular attention to someone who is watching you, there is a reason they are! I graduated from the school of hard knock life and have lived in some very rough areas as a single woman and had more close calls than I care to remember. I always tell my daughters this and I don't care what area or how safe it is anyone can be a victim just by being in the wrong place so don't give the predator the opportunity. I always avoid areas I'm not familiar with but am extra cautious in those situations, sometimes it's just a deterent by showing that you are paying attention and not easy prey.

dark_shadows

01-14-2006, 07:52 PM

Strach304,

Thank you for your post.
Also something that people need to be aware of is;
Who are your childrens friends?
It does not matter how old your son of daughter is.
Here in Vermont I will tell you that the amount of incarcerated gang members is only getting bigger.
These people come here from out of state and prey on people who they can befriend have little or no family structure and want the person to feel loved and protected.These gang members also give the victims free drugs until they are hooked on heroin,crack or whatever else.So someone with a low paying job or no job will have to work for the gang to pay off the debt and feed the habit.I see the effects every working day,and I hear it all.
I could go on and on.

Are they dressing,talking or acting like the MTV rappers?Look at the makeup changes,are they trying to look like that.

The gang members look for that type of person to use.

Hammerized

01-15-2006, 07:13 PM

http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4346935 (http://WCAX%20-%20Tina%20Fontaine)
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The change-- a direct response to criticism that detectives waited too long to get involved in the disappearances of Maura Murray in Haverhill, New Hampshire and Brianna Maitland in Montgomery, both two years ago.
Police Investigate Disappearance Of Albany Woman, 1/12/06
http://www.caledonianrecord.com/pages/top_news/story/9917b259d
The distance between Fontaine's home in Albany and where she was seen in Irasburg is about 9 miles.

Bachand also declined to comment about Associated Press reports that Fontaine is seven weeks pregnant.

"Half of the stuff out there is baloney," said Bachand, referring to information in the community. "We have to waste time because of it."

Fontaine is described as being 5 feet tall, weighing 120 pounds with brown hair and brown eyes. She was last seen Friday at Bob's Quick Stop on Route 14 in Irasburg.

Fontaine was wearing a large gray Champion sweat shirt, blue jeans and possibly hiking boots.

Anyone who has seen Fontaine or knows her whereabouts is asked to contact the Derby barracks at 334-8881. --------------------------------------------------------------------

Police hunt for Albany woman missing since Friday, 1/12/06
http://www.burlingtonfreepress.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060112/NEWS02/601120312/1007/NEWS05

The search for Tina Fontaine marks a change from when Brianna Maitland disappeared in two years ago. The Sheldon resident was 17 when she disappeared in March 2004. She has not been found.

"At this time we have no reason to suspect foul play other than she's disappeared," Bachand said of Fontaine. "We're concerned about that but we're tracking down all the leads that are coming in and interviewing as many people and friends as we can."

Fontaine's car was found in the driveway at her home. Authorities said the substitute teacher at North Country Union High School in Newport is seven weeks pregnant.

Fontaine's boyfriend, Franky Niles, said the Northeast Kingdom native's disappearance was completely out of character for her. He said he last saw her when he kissed her goodbye as he left the home they shared in Albany.
[...]
The state police have been criticized for being slow to involve detectives in Maitland's disappearance.

Bachand said they were jumping right in this time.

"We have more resources, more time we can devote, where the uniformed guys are more emergency response and they have other duties with traffic and other stuff," he said. "We can commit our time and resources to a case-by-case basis, one case at a time."
MUCH more at links, please read!

murraydwyer

01-15-2006, 08:07 PM

Police arrest boyfriend of Albany woman who had been missing

ALBANY, Vt. -- Police have found the body of Tina Fontaine, missing since Jan. 7, and arrested her boyfriend in connection with the death of the 29-year-old woman.

The state police said Sunday that Franky Niles, 32, was arrested Saturday.

State police said that Fontaine's body was found in a shallow grave "a short distance" from the home.

The police did not say whether the body was found before or after Niles' arrest.

Niles lived with Fontaine and had said he last saw her when he kissed her goodbye as he left the home they shared in Albany.

"She wouldn't just up and leave, at least without letting somebody know," Niles had said at the time of the disappearance. He added, "What's going through my mind right now is everything. I feel useless. I fell helpless. There's nothing I can do."

Authorities had said Fontaine had been last seen buying cigarettes Friday at Bob's Quick Stop in Irasburg. Her car was found in the driveway at her home. She was said to be seven weeks pregnant.

WCAX (http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4365789)