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Siouxzee
04-30-2005, 04:15 AM
They say that Jennifer Wilbanks has been found alive in New Mexico, they believe she was abducted. She has talked to her family from Albequerque NM. She said a man and woman abducted her, cut her hair and taking her across country.

arielilane
04-30-2005, 04:40 AM
They say that Jennifer Wilbanks has been found alive in New Mexico, they believe she was abducted. She has talked to her family from Albequerque NM. She said a man and woman abducted her, cut her hair and taking her across country.

I just heard! I was so glad to hear this! CNN is reporting this. They are on the air talking to her twin brother. Glad I was wrong about Mason.:woohoo:

Tristan
04-30-2005, 05:07 AM
Wow! You just beat me to posting this...I am so happy to hear that she is alive!
What a bizarre story...kidnapped by a COUPLE!!!

I'm anxious to hear more info.

richandfamous
04-30-2005, 06:15 AM
They say that Jennifer Wilbanks has been found alive in New Mexico, they believe she was abducted. She has talked to her family from Albequerque NM. She said a man and woman abducted her, cut her hair and taking her across country.


OMG, this is great news!

dannyodie
04-30-2005, 07:29 AM
what wonderful news for this family and husband to be. there is truely a god, I have asked many prayers for this family and now all this is over thank you lord for sheilding her from danger and guiding her home...

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

atbay
04-30-2005, 08:26 AM
All his father was doing was shielding him from a system he knows all too well.

audrey77
04-30-2005, 08:27 AM
They are now reporting that she made it up.... that she arrived by bus.... and needed time away- she was concerned about the wedding.

CNN

UGH!

izzyB
04-30-2005, 08:47 AM
They are now reporting that she made it up.... that she arrived by bus.... and needed time away- she was concerned about the wedding.

CNN

UGH!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

OMG! get this dear girl the help she needs!

less0305
04-30-2005, 09:15 AM
I apologize sooooo much for thinking he had something to do with this!!!!!!! God forgive me for my suspicions!!!!!!!!!!

kpass
04-30-2005, 09:55 AM
Thank God she's ok...with all going on in this crazy world, at least this story had a happy ending!

Peabody
04-30-2005, 10:39 AM
I apologize sooooo much for thinking he had something to do with this!!!!!!! God forgive me for my suspicions!!!!!!!!!!
I am so thankful that Jennifer is alive! There are way too many cases that end tragically.

However, I am not so sure that John did not have something to do with this - I maintain that he did not appear *physically* stressed. IF he knew that she needed to get away a few days, it would make sense that he was not worried about her AND that he was counting on the wedding.

I recall him saying that the wedding would take place.

In any evert, shame on Jennifer and any person aware of the situation for worring those who love her and for taking advantage of LE and other resources.

Also, heard on Fox News that there are no Greyhound Bus Stations in Duluth - that the nearest is in Gainsville which is too far to run or walk and that there is no public transportation between them..........therefore, she would have had to have assistance in her "getaway".

It will be interesting to know IF there were any reports made by bus drivers, ticket salesmen, or other bus riders of Jennifer's presence...........or if the lack of tv's in bus stations combined with the financial status of most bus drivers prevented them from even knowing of this "missing woman"........afterall, it is mainly cable news that runs the "breaking news" nonstop.


I believe that Duluth LE acted properly and they need to be commended for their outstanding service. It is just that these phony abductions do so much harm to the cause of real abductions! I believe that all persons involved in this case or any such case should be placed on probation and have to pay the costs involved.......they do not need to be in jail - that just costs the taxpayer.

smellsarat
04-30-2005, 10:57 AM
Does the boy who cried wolf come to mind...after the entire community worked to help find her.....how can an adult woman put somany people through this???? Bizarre!!!:razz:

Trino
04-30-2005, 11:00 AM
If the wedding does take place, at least the bridemaids, ushers, caterer, hall rental, etc. will not be left in financial distress. However, I think J. Mason should be the one to get cold feet and make a run for the border.

LaurenD
04-30-2005, 11:05 AM
This makes me sooooo angry. Shame on HER! Beeeeeeech! How dare she let her family worry so! Hope he's smart enough NOT to marry her. Major mental malfunctions going on in her brain.

Whimsigal
04-30-2005, 11:06 AM
[QUOTE=Peabody]
Also, heard on Fox News that there are no Greyhound Bus Stations in Duluth - that the nearest is in Gainsville which is too far to run or walk and that there is no public transportation between them..........therefore, she would have had to have assistance in her "getaway".


QUOTE]

This bit about the bus station is inaccurate on Fox News's part. The nearest bus station is actually in Norcross. It is only 5 miles from Duluth and she could have easily run there. I don't know whether John knew what she was doing or not but she didn't necessarily need his assistance.

I find it incredibly disturbing that she would do this and it makes me wonder what other issues are at play here.

Above all else, thank God that she is alive and that her family will not have to suffer like so many others have had to.

IdahoMom
04-30-2005, 11:09 AM
If the wedding does take place, at least the bridemaids, ushers, caterer, hall rental, etc. will not be left in financial distress. However, I think J. Mason should be the one to get cold feet and make a run for the border.
Me too!

teedie2
04-30-2005, 11:12 AM
If the wedding does take place, at least the bridemaids, ushers, caterer, hall rental, etc. will not be left in financial distress. However, I think J. Mason should be the one to get cold feet and make a run for the border.

That's a thought! She is too immature to get married. She may be too immature to even be a daughter. She surely put her parents through misery. That was cold and selfish!

If the hub-to-be knew about this, he, too, is immature.

This was a hateful act. Sure, get them both help. I don't care now.

Is the wedding still set to go? I would love to hear a statement from their pastor!

I'm glad she is alive, tho.

smellsarat
04-30-2005, 11:12 AM
I myself was having a nervous breakdown and panic attacks before my wedding...bt I never even thought to do such a thing...instead I went through with it...and have a terrififc son and a divorce to show for it....BUT to put everyone through this she has to have severe mental problems!!

quickgal
04-30-2005, 11:16 AM
I would love to hear a statement from their pastor! He just gave one. Among the words he used were "fiasco," and "disappointed."

He also said that John spoke to both families, saying that the Bible allows for people to make mistakes, that the Bible calls them sins, that these sins re-crucify Jesus, and that God forgives and that is grace.

Which is a bizarre statement, to me, implying that your fiancee just re-nailed Jesus (my opinion only of course). This could get ugly.

May3hem
04-30-2005, 11:21 AM
Y'know, running away from an obscene exercise in excess like a $100K wedding seems more like a moment of clarity than a mental disorder. But maybe that's just me.

emmcee
04-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Yesterday I asked on one of the many threads if anyone thought she got cold feet and took off on her own. I just had that inkling . . . . . :p :p :p

Glad she's safe. What a horrible pressure it must be to live within such a status-conscious family.

I wonder what'll happen to all the wedding gifts? :D

smellsarat
04-30-2005, 11:24 AM
Y'know, running away from an obscene exercise in excess like a $100K wedding seems more like a moment of clarity than a mental disorder. But maybe that's just me.
Not when you let people believe you have been abducted...far more has been spent trying to find her!!!

smellsarat
04-30-2005, 11:26 AM
He just gave one. Among the words he used were "fiasco," and "disappointed."

He also said that John spoke to both families, saying that the Bible allows for people to make mistakes, that the Bible calls them sins, that these sins re-crucify Jesus, and that God forgives and that is grace.

Which is a bizarre statement, to me, implying that your fiancee just re-nailed Jesus (my opinion only of course). This could get ugly.
what she did has already made it plenty ugly...to put all those people through that pain...unbelievable!!

quickgal
04-30-2005, 11:28 AM
what she did has already made it plenty ugly...to put all those people through that pain...unbelievable!!
Right, but it could get uglier between the families (I should have been more clear).

IdahoMom
04-30-2005, 11:36 AM
Not when you let people believe you have been abducted...far more has been spent trying to find her!!!
And not when you OBVIOUSLY PLAN in a premeditated fashion your own disappearance.
For gosh sakes! The flipping FBI was on this case!!! This girl should make a major PUBLIC apology!!!!!!!

May3hem
04-30-2005, 11:37 AM
Not when you let people believe you have been abducted...far more has been spent trying to find her!!!

Agreed, to a point.

She, and any adult, for that matter, has the right to walk away without informing anyone of our intention to do so. This is the double-edged sword of living in a free society. She didn't call herself in as a missing person, she didn't organize the searches, and she certainly didn't orchestrate the media coverage. Right up until she called 911 in Albuquerque and made up that story about being kidnapped, everything she did was technically within the law (I am unaware of any law in any district that requires one to watch the news).

As for what her behavior did to her family and friends, that is a matter for her, her family and friends.

Trino
04-30-2005, 11:48 AM
So, all we can say about the case is, "What a juvenile escapade!"

One news story stated she had no idea her disappearance would create such a media frenzy. She's 32 years old and had no idea? Did she have no concern for her parents, her friends, or her family? Can we at least question her intelligence?

bulletgirl2002
04-30-2005, 11:50 AM
[ Which is a bizarre statement, to me, implying that your fiancee just re-nailed Jesus (my opinion only of course). This could get ugly.[/QUOTE]

It was a figuretive phrase. I heard it hundreds of times growing up and understood perfectly what he was trying to say. She sinned, Christ died for those sins and by his Grace we are forgiven because he was nailed to the Cross.

Casshew
04-30-2005, 11:52 AM
So she spoke to her Mom at 7pm and then took off. How selfish and cruel:(

kato
04-30-2005, 11:54 AM
I usually don't come on here on the weekends but I couldn't wait til Mon..

1st: A BIG APOLOGY TO MR. JOHN MASON FROM ME!!!

2nd: I have no pity for that obviously troubled woman. It just pisses me off to no end! Sorry JMO

quickgal
04-30-2005, 12:04 PM
Which is a bizarre statement, to me, implying that your fiancee just re-nailed Jesus (my opinion only of course). This could get ugly. It was a figuretive phrase. I heard it hundreds of times growing up and understood perfectly what he was trying to say. She sinned, Christ died for those sins and by his Grace we are forgiven because he was nailed to the Cross. I know. It still seemed like an odd phrase to use at a time like this--very accusatory to me, and slapping the "sin" label on her right off the bat--but I suppose it is difficult to say what is normal under such circumstances. I'm Southern but Catholic ;)

Trino
04-30-2005, 12:05 PM
I have some Southern roots and understand his statement, but I think there's a difference between a sin and mental issues, which it seems she may have. John is obviously embarrassed; he should take a deep breath and analyze the situation before marrying this woman.

I, too, think the families will see some division. J's will probably unconditionally support her, while John's may take a step backward. His family, with the status that they have in Duluth, are probably embarrassed.

So, other than costing a ton of money to the families, bridesmaid, ushers, everyone involved, plus the money spent by LE and the FBI, Jennifer has probably created a rift between the families. I would guess she has also alienated a few friends and acquaintances. J has also angered a few people who have had REAL missing persons in their families.

I realize an adult can disappear anytime they wish and that she did not call the police nor give them a false statement. It's too bad she won't be charged. I'm glad she wasn't a statistic, but I have no sympathy for her.

kylie
04-30-2005, 12:27 PM
I think it just proves that you have to live your life for you and not any expectations that society puts on you...she probably got second thoughts, which is basically your gut telling you "this is not right for me" but couldn't deal rationally or appropriately with the consequences - like being honest with her fiance....nothing wrong with changing your mind...it is hard at a time like this to think rationally...she was probably thinking...how do we cancel this...all these invitations, the flowers, the photographers, etc....I am not excusing this...just trying to understand this....I think she can learn a lot and grow from this....we all do things that disappoint our loved ones...we need to look at her whole life and not just this one incident.....

atbay
04-30-2005, 12:56 PM
"We can't even jog together." -jm

"Lemon tree very pretty and the lemon it is sweet.

But the fruit of the lemon is an impossible *****."

atbay
04-30-2005, 12:59 PM
Or, come to think, isn't it "But the fruit of the poor lemon...."

wordsnmorewords
04-30-2005, 01:03 PM
Agreed, to a point.

She, and any adult, for that matter, has the right to walk away without informing anyone of our intention to do so. This is the double-edged sword of living in a free society. She didn't call herself in as a missing person, she didn't organize the searches, and she certainly didn't orchestrate the media coverage. Right up until she called 911 in Albuquerque and made up that story about being kidnapped, everything she did was technically within the law (I am unaware of any law in any district that requires one to watch the news).

As for what her behavior did to her family and friends, that is a matter for her, her family and friends.
Still think she could have left a note :rolleyes: :waitasec: :twocents: .

bulletgirl2002
04-30-2005, 01:15 PM
Who knows what will happen? It wouldn't surprise me if they end up married. You can forgive all kinds of things when you love someone. JM is probably a very decent person and would make someone a great husband. I know if my daughter or someone I love pulled this I would be pissed, relieved, but would forgive and I think she knew EXACTLY what she was doing. Probably loved every minute of the intense attention she got.

alpharee
04-30-2005, 01:19 PM
guess now all that talked so ill of the fiance can eat crow

I'm so glad she's been found!! but this was no way to handle the stress! Can't believe she would hurt her family like that.

nancy
04-30-2005, 01:22 PM
I'm glad she's ok but,what is wrong with her? Couldn't she just call off or postpone the wedding? She scared her family and Fiance half to death. Idiot!:slap: I think she should be billed for all the manpower used in the search for her.

ThoughtFox
04-30-2005, 02:24 PM
I'm stunned at the total selfishness of what this girl did.

OK - so we live in a free society. People can do what they like, but just because we are free to do things doesn't mean they are always good for those around us. I'm free to drink myself into a stupor tonight, but would that be good for my children or husband or myself? Not really. :bang:

My husband is chuckling today that we all rushed to judgement. I try to explain that we just care about missing people, and that it was strange that a grown woman would let her mother cry and all her friends think she was dead and let her future husband be grilled by the police.

If I were him, I wouldn't marry her till she stabilizes. Maybe in a few years. :razz:

When people go mountain climbing and the park service has to search for them, they often get charged for the cost of the search. I think the money for the wedding should go to the local police. :clap:

She must think she is Julia Roberts and her life is a movie. :boohoo: Meanwhile my husband is snickering at us all for suspecting the husband. He thinks we condemn everyone as "Scott Petersons" without a reason.

Tigerlily
04-30-2005, 02:50 PM
While I am glad Jennifer is alive and safe, I have to say that this is probably the most selfish thing she could've done. I have no sympathy for this girl but truly feel sorry now for her fiance and their families. Especially since the fiance was under suspicion and all the turmoil the families went through.

This girl truly has issues and behaved like a selfish drama-queen. The fact that she took off at night saying she was going jogging, she obviously WANTED people to think something terrible had happened. She left w/o her car, ID, credit cards, etc. This was purposeful on her part. Then when she finally called 911 and told them she'd been abducted and didn't admit the truth until further question by police, it's just wrong. I don't care what kind of "mental" problems she has, she should not have done this. If she was having 2nd thoughts about the marriage, she should've confided in someone but instead created this huge drama, an obvious chicken-sh*t way out. All the money that was spent looking for her is ridiculous not to mention the money spent on this wedding. She should be held accountable for something because she deliberately tried to make it look like she was abducted until she cracked under pressure - just like the college girl in WI. Jennifer needs to be held accountable for her actions that hurt so many and she needs professional help.

mmohucap
04-30-2005, 03:03 PM
She should be held accountable for something because she deliberately tried to make it look like she was abducted until she cracked under pressure - just like the college girl in WI.
My first thought. Audrey Seiler (sp?), does anyone know if she was ever billed for all the search efforts? I heard some talk about it.

I have a friend who went to the same high school as Audrey and lives near her in Rockford. She says Audrey didn't go back to college in Wisconsin, she lives at home and doesn't really do much anymore. She goes to therapy a lot.

Yeah,me
04-30-2005, 03:20 PM
Before people start bashing this girl, think about it..........

She had a HUGE wedding that she had been focusing on for a long time. She forgot about the MARRIAGE part, it finally hit her and she split. Whose to say that Candlelight wasn't on to something, maybe he was leading a double life and she caught onto it and was too embarrassed to admit it to her family. I'm sure there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than anyone here knows about. It just goes to show you, don't be so quick to rush judgement on someone (like some insisted on doing with JM in this case). ;)

Sprocket
04-30-2005, 03:55 PM
Before people start bashing this girl, think about it..........

She had a HUGE wedding that she had been focusing on for a long time. She forgot about the MARRIAGE part, it finally hit her and she split. Whose to say that Candlelight wasn't on to something, maybe he was leading a double life and she caught onto it and was too embarrassed to admit it to her family. I'm sure there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than anyone here knows about. It just goes to show you, don't be so quick to rush judgement on someone (like some insisted on doing with JM in this case). ;)
Sorrie. All those things may be true, however, it does NOT justify her behavior, in any way, shape or form.

This woman has issues. If she suspected her fiance of something, and she didn't have ONE PERSON she felt she could confide in, that THIS was the ONLY thing she could "do" then, that's a BIG problem there.

Sounds more like narcissistic behavior, to me.

angelmom
04-30-2005, 04:03 PM
Before people start bashing this girl, think about it..........

She had a HUGE wedding that she had been focusing on for a long time. She forgot about the MARRIAGE part, it finally hit her and she split. Whose to say that Candlelight wasn't on to something, maybe he was leading a double life and she caught onto it and was too embarrassed to admit it to her family. I'm sure there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than anyone here knows about. It just goes to show you, don't be so quick to rush judgement on someone (like some insisted on doing with JM in this case). ;)

That's no excuse. It might make it okay for the original act of running away, but after a couple of hours, wouldn't you at least call your mom or a friend or even someone's voicemail at work (when you knew they wouldn't be there to answer) and let them know that you hadn't been abducted?

They thought she was being raped/tortured/murdered somewhere by God-knows-who or that maybe JM had killed and dumped her like DRIP or MH. You can't tell me she never thought of that. Has she been living under some rock for the past 2 years? Can you imagine the agony her family has been going through and she allowed that? She created it?

I understand panic, I understand pressure, I understand being overwhelmed. But allowing JM to become a murder suspect and your own mother to visit the brink of mental breakdown at the thought of your death is too much.

Calling this cold feet is the understatement of the century.

SewingDeb
04-30-2005, 04:33 PM
Sorrie. All those things may be true, however, it does NOT justify her behavior, in any way, shape or form.

This woman has issues. If she suspected her fiance of something, and she didn't have ONE PERSON she felt she could confide in, that THIS was the ONLY thing she could "do" then, that's a BIG problem there.

Sounds more like narcissistic behavior, to me.

I agree about the narcissistic behavior.

LaurenD
04-30-2005, 04:42 PM
Before people start bashing this girl, think about it..........

She had a HUGE wedding that she had been focusing on for a long time. She forgot about the MARRIAGE part, it finally hit her and she split. Whose to say that Candlelight wasn't on to something, maybe he was leading a double life and she caught onto it and was too embarrassed to admit it to her family. I'm sure there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than anyone here knows about. It just goes to show you, don't be so quick to rush judgement on someone (like some insisted on doing with JM in this case). ;)

But....how could she hurt her family??????????

LaurenD
04-30-2005, 04:45 PM
Sorrie. All those things may be true, however, it does NOT justify her behavior, in any way, shape or form.

This woman has issues. If she suspected her fiance of something, and she didn't have ONE PERSON she felt she could confide in, that THIS was the ONLY thing she could "do" then, that's a BIG problem there.

Sounds more like narcissistic behavior, to me.
Sooooo true! She took away from all of those out there that REALLY need help. This is not excusable. The girl is a FREAK! If I were him I'd ditch her quick......

YellowDog
04-30-2005, 04:55 PM
I won't be surprised if it turns out that she is bipolar. She could have been in a manic mode and this can cause impulsive acts and inflated self-esteem or grandiosity.

I've noticed in all of the pictures of her on TV, her eyes look so wide open, almost as though she's in a constant state of surprise.

Marthatex
04-30-2005, 05:13 PM
But....how could she hurt her family??????????

How about if she's unaware of others' feelings but her own?

You know, like people who hurt other people?

audrey77
04-30-2005, 06:55 PM
My first thought. Audrey Seiler (sp?), does anyone know if she was ever billed for all the search efforts? I heard some talk about it.

- $9,000 restitution
- Three years' probation
- mental health counseling
- 250 hours of community service

News reports stated that she volunteers for the Jacob Wetterling Foundation...

Tristan
04-30-2005, 06:58 PM
I am shocked by this news. A 32 year old woman having second thoughts about a wedding, even a huge wedding, as this one was, is still not reason enough to fake your own abduction.

This woman obviously has issues, and while I understand being overwhelmed by
a 600 guest wedding (she must be popular!), but to hurt your family and close friends...having them think you could be dead...well that is just wrong on so many levels.

I'd love to know what this woman was thinking. Actually, we know she WASN'T
thinking of all the police, FBI etc manpower that was wasted searching for her.

Sheesh.

ThoughtFox
04-30-2005, 07:55 PM
Before people start bashing this girl, think about it..........

She had a HUGE wedding that she had been focusing on for a long time. She forgot about the MARRIAGE part, it finally hit her and she split. Whose to say that Candlelight wasn't on to something, maybe he was leading a double life and she caught onto it and was too embarrassed to admit it to her family. I'm sure there's a lot more going on behind the scenes than anyone here knows about. It just goes to show you, don't be so quick to rush judgement on someone (like some insisted on doing with JM in this case). ;)

OK - I've thought about it. I still think this is awful. :doh:

Here is a great transcript from CNN today. Look at this:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0504/30/cst.01.html

WHITFIELD: . . . Let's talk a little bit more about the family members and friends who have gathered, some 600 guest. You said John Mason, himself, is not necessarily willing to talk at this point. But what about other friends or family members, outside of the representative and the reverend we saw earlier?

MOLINEAUX: Very few of them have and it was a dramatic blast of silence when the news abruptly changed. You saw the joyous scene outside the Mason home. Once the news came out that Jennifer was, in fact, OK and there were -- it was a party. It was a party on the lawn, there were cars parked everywhere, people hugging and applauding and then all of a sudden we got the news from Albuquerque that, in fact, well, perhaps Jennifer may have made up the part about being kidnapped and -- dead silence fell over the entire compound and only a few people talked. One person I did talk to, Melinda Larson who's actually is going through marriage preparations with Jennifer because she herself is going to have her own wedding in a few weeks. She said she had no idea. It was just stunning that this happened. She was asking for a lot of love for Jennifer and a lot of support because that does, indeed, seem to be what she needs at this point. There are requests for understanding and promises of love. There's, doubtless, some anger, resentment, and utter befuddlement over what happened, so some tough days ahead. The good news and bad news tied in. We're looking at a story that was just unequivocally joyous and relieved occasion, this morning, a little more equivocal this afternoon -- Fredricka.

WHITFIELD: Yeah, lots of mixed emotions. Thanks so much, Charles Molineaux in Duluth, Georgia.

And this:

All right, Dr. Kuriansky, thanks so much for joining us.

DR. JUDY KURIANSKY, COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY TEACHER'S COLLEGE: Oh, you're welcome, Fredricka. Indeed being over the years, of counseling couples, there's no question that before a wedding, anyone, no matter who they are, how rich they are, whether there's 600 guests or 10 guests, there's still a lot of anxiety. But to have pulled off such an event as she did, there's deeper issues, then in a sense, it's a cry for help. There's something...

WHITFIELD: Yeah, we're not talking about just butterflies, we're talking about going 1,400 miles away, just days leading up to the wedding. We heard the pastor earlier this morning and a family member, spokesperson who said "clearly, Jennifer had issues that we didn't even know about."

KURIANSKY: Yes, and those issues should have really have been noticed a bit before, because such a dramatic act to add to this would have small clues along the way. This, in a sense, is a cry for help, really. And a very -- there are clues even to what she did. To go to Las Vegas, was that not where she first went?

WHITFIELD: Yeah, and that's some strange irony, given that a lot of people go to Las Vegas to get married.

KURIANSKY: Exactly. So the psychology of this is very deep, the psycho dynamics. They go there to get married or they go there on their honeymoon. Think about also what that means, it's a quickie sort of marriage. It's also one of the -- it's a very gambling place and it's a place where people are, you know, playing fast lives. So, this has some deep psycho dynamics for her in terms of her confusion and her conflicts over getting married, and being even a drama queen, because that is a dramatic kind of statement. She didn't go quietly off to Mexico, she went to New Mexico. There's a reason to go from Las Vegas to Albuquerque, even. All this will come out. But the point is that...

WHITFIELD: A reason beyond, perhaps, just running out of money or...

KURIANSKY: Well, it's like a -- there's something inside her that I would suspect has some kind of an addictive-type of personality that is in a psycho-analytic, psycho-dynamic way. Just even from seeing some brief pictures of her, she's very thin, isn't she?

WHITFIELD: Yes, she appears to be very thin in the photographs. You know, earlier we heard from...

KURIANSKY: Well, you put that together -- when put that together with potentially, I'm just speculating here because I don't know...

WHITFIELD: WE'LL that's a tough one because we are jumping to conclusions because we haven't had a chance to speak with her...

KURIANSKY: Oh, yes, but...

WHITFIELD: Nor anyone else who is willing to speak publicly about what's going on through her mind.

KURIANSKY: Exactly. But if you make a profile, like the FBI -- you just spoke to an FBI agent, psychologists, you know, make profiles of people and try to figure out what's going on. The fears and everything could come from some kind of eating disorder and then that puts together with going to Las Vegas as a -- you know, as a gambling addiction, fears of -- and not to say that she had those things, but those are personality traits of people who do unpredictable things who are very frightened of others really seeing their deep self. Clearly, she couldn't communicate with anyone because people did not know what was going on inside of her. Thank goodness she didn't do something rash that would endanger her life.

WHITFIELD: Now apparently, according to the pastor, the couple did get some premarital counseling. You think there should have been some inkling of a problem that she had with the wedding or the anxiety or stress she was feeling leading up to it and that perhaps it may have been overlooked?

KURIANSKY: Well, there's no question a lot of her behavior was overlooked. Because I would say, seriously, Fredricka, that this kind of reaction...

WHITFIELD: Couldn't she just be really good at masking her feeling, perhaps?

KURIANSKY: Yes, excellent, you're a good psychologist there, because there would have been some clues though, because when you behave in this way it shows that there's a pattern for not being able to face extreme stress. Basically, you run away from stress and you can't cope with it. So in her childhood or along the way -- she's now, you know, she's a woman, not a little girl -- there were some clues to how she would handle stress. So this was a big one. And what she showed is she couldn't handle stress. So everybody did -- wasn't noticing that, which may be, in fact, the way the rest of the people around her cope with it. But, you know, that premarital counseling, there is a system where some couples are required to go to some premarital counseling, from -- in a religious mode and it's very superficial, it's certainly a wonderful thing to do, but unless you're going to be real open, you don't get to the deep issues. You talk about things that are simple; you don't get to the deep fears that would lead to this, because this husband and wife were seen together. It's more a happy kind of "let's make everything work out well" as opposed to "let's dig deep into what these worse than butterflies would be."

WHITFIELD: And clearly, in this case perhaps, or in the case of Jennifer, that perhaps she wasn't thinking about the consequences of when you finally do have to fess up and tell the truth, how much more embarrassing and humiliating this is all turning out to be.

KURIANSKY: Well absolutely, and we've seen in the bridegroom-to- be's behavior. It would be -- he comes from a well-to-do family, from what we know, they have visibility and some prominence. It would be extremely embarrassing and humiliating for him and everybody in the family. I think the lesson here, for everyone, certainly might not be as dramatic as this particular young woman would be, is to really think before the wedding what every single nervous anxiety would be and to share that, to pick someone, a very good friend or a therapist even on your own, not with the husband-to-be, because that becomes something that you can't really be totally honest about. You would frighten him and he might pull out. So those two things would be really essential to be really deep, digging into your fears and feelings about it and to share them with somebody, if it's not your family member, because that's too anxiety-provoking, then someone else.

WHITFIELD: It's both a sad and a happy ending. Glad that she is safe and sound. So sad, I think everyone agrees, that it came to this. Dr. Judy Kuriansky of the Colombia University Teacher's College, thanks so much for joining us on the phone, there.

Yeah,me
04-30-2005, 08:00 PM
I understand how everyone is feeling about her right now, I really do........but we still don't know the whole story. It's very possible she didn't know of the large scale investigation and search going on. I think she DOES need a thorough mental evaluation and some heavier marriage counseling than what she got.

But, in the BIG picture........aren't you glad this had a happy ending and this wasn't another Peterson? I know I am.

OK, I'll hop off my soapbox.

Camper
04-30-2005, 08:40 PM
Last time I rode a bus cross country, the bus kept a going, people slept on the bus, no newspapers, BUT BUT it did stop for folks to go potty and to eat.

NOW buses have potties in em, and TV sets every few seats, at least the bus that takes us to the mountains in Colorado to gamble do. Pretty fancy buses we have here.

SOOOOOOO, when did she eat, did she eat? From Vegas being seen in the casino, did she stay all night there? ER just a quick stop into the casino, then out again to the bus depot? I have not gone to Vegas on a bus, anyone?

I think she had more money with her than is reportedly known. I missed TV coverage today, was she still wearing her sweats and sneakers, or how was she dressed, anyone know?




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quickgal
04-30-2005, 08:42 PM
I missed TV coverage today, was she still wearing her sweats and sneakers, or how was she dressed, anyone know?
Not real sure, but in her 911 call she said she was wearing gray running pants and the sweatshirt she'd had on since Tuesday.

kpass
04-30-2005, 09:02 PM
Special 1 Hour Report Coming On Cnn Now...

Bobbisangel
04-30-2005, 09:08 PM
I'm glad that she is alright and that her family has been relieved of the terrible stress they were living under for 3 days and nights.

It is said that Jennifer and her mother and Jennifer and her dad were very close. When you have a close relationship with your parents you know how they will react to different situations. She had to know that her being missing would just tear her parents up. Her decision to take off was very self centered. To drag it out over 3 days is just over the top.

I wondered about her story when she said that the couple grabbed her, cut her hair, and then shoved her into a van. What kidnappers would take the time to cut a person's hair outside the van after they had grabbed her?
It just didn't make sense to me.

I wonder whose idea it was to have a huge wedding? I don't know her or her parents but her parents seem like real down to earth people and I doubt if they had been fulfilling their dream of a huge wedding through Jennifer. Last night the media was making a big deal out of Jennifer's mom saying they were going to invite the whole town to the wedding...this was after Jennifer had called. Well heck, her mom was so happy and she was just talking. Some were really negative about her remarks..."now they want to make the wedding even bigger...she ran away because there were 600 guests coming."
Those people should be :slap: .

I'll eat my share of crow for thinking that John was involved. Jumping to conclusions...hope I learned a lesson :blushing:

We don't have the right to do whatever we want in this life. If our actions only affect us that is different but most of what we do affects others. We all watch enough TV to know what happens when someone goes missing. We know how our family would feel if they thought something had happened to us.

As a parent of 4 grown kids I can't say for sure how I would feel in the shoes of Jennifer's parents. I think I would feel relief, anger, and maybe a whole lot of disappointment.

smellsarat
04-30-2005, 09:11 PM
Agreed, to a point.

She, and any adult, for that matter, has the right to walk away without informing anyone of our intention to do so. This is the double-edged sword of living in a free society. She didn't call herself in as a missing person, she didn't organize the searches, and she certainly didn't orchestrate the media coverage. Right up until she called 911 in Albuquerque and made up that story about being kidnapped, everything she did was technically within the law (I am unaware of any law in any district that requires one to watch the news).

As for what her behavior did to her family and friends, that is a matter for her, her family and friends.
What a bunch of Malarkey!!!:doh:

Tom'sGirl
04-30-2005, 09:38 PM
Oh Pleez..........a Blankie over her head walking through the airport, and given a Teddy Bear for comfort during the interegation :rolleyes:

In her 911 call she says the so called woman with the abductor was about her height, 5'9". Didn't her description say she was 5'8"?

I'm wondering what's going to be the reaction of her hubby-to-be when she lands in Georgia?

Now, if that guy still marries her, then he is also "whacked".:banghead:

Lisabet
04-30-2005, 10:14 PM
For eight weeks she'd lived back and forth in her fiance's home. It all seemed like the perfect romance, but she found that he left his dirty socks and underwear on the bedroom floor, and expected someone else to pick it up, wash it, and return it laundered to his dresser. He asked her, "So, what have you got cooked for dinner for us?" ---- (with his dirty underpants still on the bedroom floor) and she caught a Greyhound bus and got the heck out of there, and so would have I.

ThoughtFox
04-30-2005, 10:35 PM
I'll post the transcript to the CNN special when it appears later tonight.

quickgal
04-30-2005, 10:37 PM
In her 911 call she says the so called woman with the abductor was about her height, 5'9". Didn't her description say she was 5'8"?
She didn't say "exactly," she said "about." 5'9" is "about" her height. :)

smellsarat
04-30-2005, 10:46 PM
She didn't say "exactly," she said "about." 5'9" is "about" her height. :)
But maybe Rita Cosby will have her wieghed and measured upon landing!!!

Lynni
05-01-2005, 12:36 AM
Yes, she should publicly apologize. For crying out loud, if she needed time away to clear her head, that's one thing, but I don't believe that's what it was because it was premeditated.

If she wanted to just get away and think by herself why did she take $140 cash and leave her purse and stuff home? That seems odd to me. Also, she cut her own hair, they think, is this the action of someone who wants to be by themself? If I want time to myself, I don't go on a bus trip across the country, trying to disguise myself with shorter hair.

I don't buy the excuse of needing to get away. I don't know why she did it, but it was bizarre and an apology and financial restitution is in order for all the money she cost by having law enforcement looking for her.

Didn't she ever see a headline in a newspaper while on her trek? It makes sense to me that if she ran off on purpose, she'd want to check the news to see if she's in it and what her family thinks or whatever. I would.

Seems cruel what she did to her family by doing this.

I wonder too if the husband is involved because all the weird goings on with the lie detector test. Maybe it would've shown up that he was involved. I don't know-it's such a strange deal, but I am glad she is still alive.

Trino
05-01-2005, 12:41 AM
Fast forward a couple of years if she marries John. What will be her next stunt? Disappearing bank account?

ThoughtFox
05-01-2005, 01:25 AM
This is a transcript from CNN about Jennifer's condition tonight. I haven't found the transcript of the special yet - they may not release one.

I think this is more than just a case of too much wedding stress! :confused:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0504/30/cst.06.html

Judy Kuransky, a clinical psychologist with Columbia University, joins me now, better known as Dr. Judy.

Dr. Judy, let me go over some of the terms we've been using, or hearing today about this young woman, all right, to describe her state of mind. Overstressed, all right?

DR. JUDY KURANSKY, CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST: Yes.

LIN: Narcissistic.

KURANSKY: Yes, selfish.

LIN: Selfish. Maybe even crazy.

KURANSKY: Yes, well, could have had a break. Yes, what else?

LIN: So what do you think?

KURANSKY: I think she had so much stress about this that she reached a point really of regression. We've seen her being covered in this way, with this little blanket. Kids know what it's like to have a blankey with you. She probably came with that from home, because she had a bag on her...

(CROSSTALK)

LIN: The towel, the striped towel that's over her head?

KURANSKY: Yes. Right, exactly.

LIN: Right now.

KURANSKY: And then we hear that the police gave her a teddy bear, and they were whispering comforting words to her. Well, I spent a lot of time working with people under trauma. And so you, what you want to do is give them teddy bears. We used to do that to all the kids and adults, by the way, after 9/11, because in that kind of stress, teddy bears are comforting. They're what we call a transitional object that makes you feel safe.

And so I think she was regressing. Now, look at the story, Carol, that she came up with. An abduction. How many times on the news have we heard lately even about little girls being abducted, being snatched from their home and taken far away? And so under stress, she came up with the same story that happens to little girls. And so I think under terrific stress, she regressed to this very young age and this really kind of regressive behavior.

LIN: All right, so does that -- because I was going to ask you, what kind of person comes up with this detailed, sinister plot of a kidnapping, with descriptions of the suspect, versus, look, I just can't handle this big wedding and we all need to talk, or just someone who just runs away, you know?

KURANSKY: Well, I think that's what -- the stress made her go back to a childhood feeling of being unsafe and being frightened and being scared and overwhelmed, and no one in the family was able obviously to talk with her. She wasn't able to share with anyone else, and you look over....

LIN: Dr. Judy, this is a wedding! It's a wedding!

KURANSKY: Yes.

LIN: I mean, it's not like, you know, it's not like, I don't know, I'm going to reach here, the death of a child, or -- it was a wedding. It was supposed to be a special, happy occasion, the beginning of this new life with this man.

KURANSKY: Yes, but Carol, if you look at some of the research, we have a scale of the impact of events, and even positive events cause stress. You add them all up, and the person can have a break.

A wedding can be equal to even -- I know people are going to be shocked about this -- the losing of someone, moving away, having a baby. All these things add just to the pressure. They could be good or they could feel bad.

What really is sad here is that, unfortunately, this woman, this 32-year-old woman, who regressed to a child and acted in this way, has done a really negative thing for women's rights, for families everywhere, because she made up a story. Now, a lot of people are not going to believe many of these stories now from here to forward. You'll hear all kinds of things about this one being taken or that one. And so there is really a sad story here for the future of women being believed.

LIN: Well, OK, let's get back to this woman's condition. I mean, so you're saying that she's in a state of regression. Our Peter Viles, who is on the same flight that this woman is on, has described her by telephone as being curled up in a fetal position. The cops gave her a teddy bear. She's got this towel over her head. I mean, is she...

KURANSKY: There you go.

LIN: Is she gone?

KURANSKY: There you go.

LIN: Is she just not with us right now?

KURANSKY: Well, that -- there you go. You see, she's curled up in a fetal position. She's back to being a child, being absolutely into that frightened state. It's going to take a long time for her to recover from this. I think she needs to be in a safe environment, in probably a rehab center, because this is a serious behavior. Just a little interview here and there, one psychologist session once a week is not really going to do it. I think they need family therapy, because obviously she was not communicating with the family. They had no idea what was going on, they even said. It's going to take a long time for her to recover from this, especially with all the media attention. It's going to be very hard for her to form a new relationship. I'm not so sure that it's going to really last with the bridegroom. He's going to be -- he's under tremendous pressure now...

~~~More at Link~~~

dakini
05-01-2005, 01:45 AM
Fictionary was this great game where you make up meanings to a real but obscure word and who ever manages to guess the real meaning wins.

This whole thing is amusing in one way. Unfortunately at the expense of a lot of people. Kind of a kinky "runaway bride" thing. So audacioius that a WOMAN would dare do such a thing. Committment phobic men get more of the air time on this kind of thing but usually claim, amnesia.

Have any of you has ever done something this crazy?

I know the mind state that could think of this..young and maybe substance altered.

I don't know how someone could actually sustain that insanity long enough to travel that distance and compound the lies to this extent. Woo.. that's out there.

This poor woman will one day have to live with this utter humiliation and the severance of many relationships of friends and relatives. I am sorry to all who are hurt by it.

What a crazy time we live in. Not only do we go utterly nuts but do to media advances the community is now so fast and vast compounding the impact.

chicoliving
05-01-2005, 03:28 AM
Thanks ThoughtFox for posting that....I watched it and thought it was very interesting.

txsvicki
05-01-2005, 03:49 AM
Good grief. I thought that she might be faking the abduction especially after I read that she is a nurse. My first thought was something like Munchausen's. I hope that she is thoroughly evaluated before being allowed to return to patients. But, the huge size of that wedding and the money that must have been shelled out, it would be so much easier to claim amnesia due to some break or fugue state than to face her parents or fiancee if they were the ones paying for it all. I'm really glad that some poor Mexican people were not falsely accused and why did she claim they were Mexicans in the first place? That's not all who live in New Mexico.

LazyCat08
05-01-2005, 05:20 AM
hallelujah sister! :eek:

but I still think she should have let her loved ones know she was essentially "OK" as the saying goes "the truth will set you free"... I think it definitely would've in this case....as it would've saved alot of time and resources that should be spent on those who are really in danger....

BirdieBoo
05-01-2005, 05:28 AM
I understand that there are very big stresses involved in preparing for a wedding...marriage is a life changing event. HOWEVER....I'll save my sympathies for the people who have been REALLY abducted.

PS I think she looks like she's on drugs..her eyes are HUGE in the photos they show. And 5'8" and 120 lbs is NOT a healthy or normal weight...so I'm thinking there was some sort of pharmaceutical assistance on that.

CinnamonGirl
05-01-2005, 08:18 AM
Well then all the sympathy in the world especially if his undies had the dreaded skid stains.God help her if she has children and has to change diarrhea diapers and be covered in vomit.She needs to stay single and get herself sterile:boohoo:

lcookster
05-01-2005, 08:40 AM
I feel terrible for the groom-to-be. I can't imagine his pain and ultimate humiliation. How someone moves on from there....it's got to be really difficult. I am sure that this woman is mentally ill, but I hope this guy moves on and doesn't linger. I don't think this would be a healthy situation for either long-term. I hope he has good support from his family and friends.

Trino
05-01-2005, 08:52 AM
Kuransky: "I'm not so sure it's going to really last with the bridegroom. He's going to be - he's under tremendous pressure now."

I would make a bet that she's correct. CNN carried the headlines that JW said the wedding was postponed, not cancelled. Wonder what John said.

Camper
05-01-2005, 10:28 AM
Amnesia would have been a better answer for her. Everyone would have felt sorrier for her!!

Phone call to John something like this: Dial number, ringa ringa, "Hello".

"Hello, John, I am ok, I donut know who I am, er where I am".

"Huh" ?
=======================End of fake call.

I did see her under the ugly afghan, wonder if that was donated to the APD?
IF she was not having a bad hair day before the afghan, then surely after it was removed.

Our church makes those Teddy Bears for children who are brought into the hospital for abuse/accidents and such.

I do think there is some major health issue behind all of this, either mental or biological.

Super glad that she was not found dead.



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Gabby
05-01-2005, 11:08 AM
I have thought about this a lot over the past few days.

I never felt like her finance was behind this disappearance..and I also must admit that I wondered about the 'cold feet' thing.

When Mr. Gabby and I were within 2 weeks of getting married, we both realised what a serious step it was, and we both starting getting jitters. BUT we sat down and talked about it -- and realised it was STRESS.. Being as it was my first marriage, I was afraid I couldn't adjust to being a part of a couple, and he was afraid that I would not be able to adjust to it either. BUT we did discuss it and we have had a few minor bumps with my independance, but nothing that we haven't been able to discuss and iron out. His first wife was very dependant....where I am very independant... so this was a new experience for both of us.

I can easily understand how she 'freaked' out... I am not saying that what she did was the correct thing to do, but each of us react differently under stress and a wedding no matter how small is stressful, and with one the size of the one she was planning had to be mind boggling.

I think counseling and I mean deep counseling is called for. She was so stressed she didn't think about what this was doing to her friends, and family and even the fiance. She just needed a break...

While we don't agree with how she went about handling this, I certainly don't believe that we should be judging her... "BUT BY GOD'S GRACE THERE GO I" caps are making a statement not screaming... This woman is to be pitied..and to be prayed for,not condemned.. can you imagine or begin to imagine the anguish she has been and is going through? I can't..

alpharee
05-01-2005, 11:52 AM
I agree Gabby but I also think she was very selfish and she thought about this prior to doing it. It wasn't a complete spur of the moment. No one takes enough cash with them jogging to take a bus across country. She definately needs help dealing with stress. I've been under tremendous stress before after going thru an ugly divorce and now planning a wedding myself. Both were/are extremely stressful but there's no way I could just disappear and put my family thru all that pain. Never! No matter how much stress!

Gabby
05-01-2005, 12:07 PM
I agree Gabby but I also think she was very selfish and she thought about this prior to doing it. It wasn't a complete spur of the moment. No one takes enough cash with them jogging to take a bus across country. She definately needs help dealing with stress. I've been under tremendous stress before after going thru an ugly divorce and now planning a wedding myself. Both were/are extremely stressful but there's no way I could just disappear and put my family thru all that pain. Never! No matter how much stress!


But I think Alpha, you are mentally more stable than this woman. I think her mental stability is in question too. I am not excusing her, I am saying that there more than likely underlying factors that we know nothing of.

kgeaux
05-01-2005, 12:26 PM
But I think Alpha, you are mentally more stable than this woman. I think her mental stability is in question too. I am not excusing her, I am saying that there more than likely underlying factors that we know nothing of.


I would have totally agreed with you, Gabby, until I read in a thread in the "Jennifer Wilbanks" section that she's done this twice before. Running away and leaving her fiance confused, her family scared seems to be a pattern with her. Knowing full well that her family knows her pattern, she escalated it this time by cutting off her hair and pitching it where it would be found--she wanted IMO everyone to think she'd been a victim of a violent crime. She's got some underlying factors, alright. I am not sure if I believe her underlying factors make this any more palatable.

Trino
05-01-2005, 01:04 PM
This woman has twice run away before this episode? Her behavior is that of a child, which may be why she was given a towel to cover her head and the police gave her a teddy bear for security. And she's 32? Run, John, Run.

Pharlap
05-01-2005, 01:47 PM
I would have totally agreed with you, Gabby, until I read in a thread in the "Jennifer Wilbanks" section that she's done this twice before. Running away and leaving her fiance confused, her family scared seems to be a pattern with her. Knowing full well that her family knows her pattern, she escalated it this time by cutting off her hair and pitching it where it would be found--she wanted IMO everyone to think she'd been a victim of a violent crime. She's got some underlying factors, alright. I am not sure if I believe her underlying factors make this any more palatable.I agree.

This is her 3rd time doing this, however this last time she took it to another level.
Also she bought the bus ticket the 19th, way before she left.:banghead:
She:slap: should be made accountable for her actions.
She not only hurt her family,husband to be and friends but the 600 guests!!!

She hurt the law inforcement.
I feel this might hurt future cases of this matter.
The law enforcement should of been on cases that really need help.
And for ALL the money that was spent involved in this case is a
*am shane.

emmcee
05-01-2005, 05:49 PM
I was wondering if or how this might affect future searches when someone is missing. Hundreds of people searched for this gal, time and expenses which might have been spent in other ways if not for their generosity.

The next time someone in the area goes missing, are these people likely to say "hmmmm - - the last one was a hoax and I wasted my time . . . . . "

Just curious about your thoughts on this.

This gal must pay back the community in some way, IMO.

Trino
05-01-2005, 06:20 PM
CNN's headline said she needed time alone. Why, then, did she pre-plan her abduction and then lie about being abducted? Didn't she have enough maturity to tell her fiance that she wasn't ready rather than put eveyone through hell?

Trino
05-01-2005, 06:36 PM
YES! She Jennifer Wilbanks may be charged! I'm glad she is safe, but I believe she needs to make restitution for her behavior.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7692019/

wicket
05-01-2005, 07:44 PM
First off, I'm very glad she is alive and not a statistic. Also, I'm sorry that I began to look suspiciously at her fiance. He did not deserve it and, she does not deserve him.
My take is that she has been coddled all her life - possibly never had to want for a thing. I'm not speaking from jealously but oftentimes, a bit of struggling builds responsibility. There is no shame in backing out of a marriage ever -granted she let the perception of wanting to marry John go on to the deadline but she still could have said to someone ' I can't do it'. And let the pieces fall where they may. My father told me the night before I was married that I can back out if I wanted - he must have known something I didn't - the marriage was a disaster. That's another story for another time.
Jennifer needs psychiatric help of some form - she also needs to experience life before commiting to a marriage or a serious relationship. I worry that should she not receive guidance and help, what will happen if and when she does marry, becomes pregnant, has a child and runs when it gets to much. There'll be more at stake then than now - then there might be a child or a child's safety in the mix.

YellowDog
05-01-2005, 08:17 PM
It sounds to me like this woman has major problems. I think perhaps she's been the center of her family's attention all of her life and thrives on it. Anyone who needs 14 bridesmaids at her wedding is simply wanting to produce an extravaganza in which she stars.

She obviously planned her departure from the time she bought her bus ticket. I feel so sorry that her family, her fiance, his family and all of her friends had to endure this. Such callous behaviour on her part with no consideration for all the money that was spent by both families and probably all of the attendants to get ready for her "Oscar" performance.

I'm glad she's alive but if I were her fiance, I'd take a long hard look at things before I set another wedding date. If she's done this twice before, she enjoys hurting other people or she needs to be in a "bobby hatch".

lisalou
05-02-2005, 09:59 AM
For eight weeks she'd lived back and forth in her fiance's home. It all seemed like the perfect romance, but she found that he left his dirty socks and underwear on the bedroom floor, and expected someone else to pick it up, wash it, and return it laundered to his dresser. He asked her, "So, what have you got cooked for dinner for us?" ---- (with his dirty underpants still on the bedroom floor) and she caught a Greyhound bus and got the heck out of there, and so would have I.
Are you speculating this, or is it published material?

Casshew
05-02-2005, 10:08 AM
link please :D

Rachael
05-02-2005, 10:23 AM
Regardless of what he is like and I am sure none of us really know. There is no excuse for what she did to him or to her family. She should have left a note for them telling them she was taking off for a while because she was under extreme stress and could not handle the wedding right now. I would never do that to my family. If she needed a break she had a right to take one, she should have just done it in a different manner IMO.

aheddle
05-02-2005, 11:22 AM
I wouldn't be surprised to find out she had feelings for someone else that exploded as her wedding got closer. Maybe someone came into her life and she didnt' know what to do. It wasn't right the way she took off but maybe there is far more here than meets the eye. It could be that she had a real meltdown and just didn't think of anything but getting away. Maybe it is as simple as her having the perfect life for everyone else and not for herself......I don't think we will ever find out the whole story.It was horrible to put her loved ones through the ordeal but maybe she saw no other way out.....

Sunnmoon
05-02-2005, 12:34 PM
Have any of you seen Runaway Bride and Sleeping with the Enemy? My Bestfriend's Wedding.....maybe she was thinking she do like Julia did in those movies.

This scenario runs very closely to Sleeping with the Enemy, Runaway Bride....Cutting her hair.....getting on a bus to somewhere where she wasn't known.

Un-friggin-believeable. What a putz! She needs some counseling! QUICK! :slap: :slap: :slap:

Hammerized
05-02-2005, 01:52 PM
but she found that he left his dirty socks and underwear on the bedroom floor, and expected someone else to pick it up, wash it, and return it laundered to his dresser. He asked her, "So, what have you got cooked for dinner for us?" ---- (with his dirty underpants still on the bedroom floor) and she caught a Greyhound bus and got the heck out of there, and so would have I.
LOL! Sounds like she must have some Yankee blood in her. :D

Camper
05-02-2005, 05:40 PM
Have any of you seen Runaway Bride and Sleeping with the Enemy? My Bestfriend's Wedding.....maybe she was thinking she do like Julia did in those movies.

This scenario runs very closely to Sleeping with the Enemy, Runaway Bride....Cutting her hair.....getting on a bus to somewhere where she wasn't known.

Un-friggin-believeable. What a putz! She needs some counseling! QUICK! :slap: :slap: :slap:







-------------------------->>> Good thought, I have not seen any of those movies, but I am curious about the WHY's of the movie bride person - why did they leave BEFORE the wedding, and did they marry after their head problems??? Thanks Sunnmoon.



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keac
05-02-2005, 05:54 PM
I don't think she should be charged, I think she should just get some help! I belive they should give the rasome money to the state, But get her some help!

Dose anyone know if her boyfriend will take her back???????:woohoo:
Karen

jpop379
05-02-2005, 06:09 PM
She should be charged with filing a false statement...I wonder why the Hispanic comunity is not up in arms in that she blamed a Hispanic Male carrying a large gun of abduction & sexual assault to LE & the FBI!

32 years old! she should act like an adult not make up stories like a teenager. She obviously is not the most mature person in the world. A typical cloistered, southern belle she needs a strong dose of reality maybe paying for the search & doing community service in let's say a battered womans shelter, working in an organization that helps locate missing children. She needs to do something. Passing it off as a temporary break-down because of pre-wedding jitters would not do her any good in the long run. She needs to grow-up...

She's had 32 years so far and hasn't matured much...

Marthatex
05-02-2005, 08:08 PM
To quote D.A. Porter: "You cannot MAKE someone get help unless you get them under jurisdiction of the court....you cannot MAKE them pay restitution unless you get them under jurisdiction..."

The circumstances and emotional state will be taken into consideration in the sentencing, but the charges may have to be made.

Pharlap
05-03-2005, 06:09 AM
For eight weeks she'd lived back and forth in her fiance's home. It all seemed like the perfect romance, but she found that he left his dirty socks and underwear on the bedroom floor, and expected someone else to pick it up, wash it, and return it laundered to his dresser. He asked her, "So, what have you got cooked for dinner for us?" ---- (with his dirty underpants still on the bedroom floor) and she caught a Greyhound bus and got the heck out of there, and so would have I.
It was said(if infact it's true) they lived together for 4 years......:chicken:

RCOOKE
05-03-2005, 08:53 AM
If the wedding does take place, at least the bridemaids, ushers, caterer, hall rental, etc. will not be left in financial distress. However, I think J. Mason should be the one to get cold feet and make a run for the border.

I'm sure several people were traveling to the wedding from out of town. These folks had airline tickets, hotel reservations, and might have had to take off from work. Perhaps the wedding party and invited guest should now consider not attending the wedding.

On second thought, this shouldn't be done. It might extend the news coverage. This story should not get anymore press.

Whimsigal
05-03-2005, 09:28 AM
A typical cloistered, southern belle she needs a strong dose of reality maybe paying for the search & doing community service in let's say a battered womans shelter, working in an organization that helps locate missing children....
How about just a typical spoiled brat? Leave the rest of us decent southern belles out of this! :angel:

I do agree with your other comments. I was wondering where the Hispanic community's outrage is as well. If she wanted to have some time to herself to think things through, ok, fine. LEAVE A NOTE if you're not strong enough to actually say the words to someone. The fact that she premediated this whole thing to make it appear as though some tragic fate has befallen her is what makes me so upset. It is beyond cruel for her to have done that to her freinds and family. It would be easier for me to understand her if she hadn't put the cruel twist on it.


JMHO

Gabby
05-03-2005, 09:49 AM
I don't think she should be charged, I think she should just get some help! I belive they should give the rasome money to the state, But get her some help!

Dose anyone know if her boyfriend will take her back???????:woohoo:
Karen


I think she should be charged, and given as a condition -- that she recieve medical help... if this is carried out then she could have all charges dropped and it off her record.