Sara(14) & Philip(11) Gehring - missing since 7/4/03 *merged threads* [Archive]

See Kaye

08-19-2003, 03:51 AM

Originally posted by alpharee
I wish they would find these babies soon so their family can have some sort of closure.

These children are heavy on my mind. Hopefully they will be found soon.
ditto, ditto, alpharee. I am very worried for the Mom. Pregnant with twins is difficult. Pregnant with twins and over 40 is high risk. Pregant with twins, over 40 and your ex-husband killed your children and won't tell you where the bodies are is disasterous.

See

Bailey1

08-19-2003, 05:16 AM

That mother must be going through h***. I can't even imagine her grief and rage she must be feeling. I have thought about what I would do and the first thing is hunt this man down and get in his face until he told me where our children were, then by the Grace of God I would not kill him. How could he do such a thing with all the history of them back and forth to work custody out FOR HIS benefit.

Only thing I can say is this man was out for vengence with his wife. By his own selfish, unforgiving rage he fought his ex..not for the children but to punish her. His bills got out of hand by his own choice to abuse his ex through attorneys, then lost his job. When his wife agreed to his custody...THAT wasn't good enough..why? Because this was all about punishing her. Now that the settlement was over who was he going to fight with.

Thing is, the children probably didn't want to be with him and that was nothing he could use his attorney for. This man is a selfish, evil bastard. How can he not show them where his kids are? Tragic

DustyRose

08-20-2003, 12:03 AM

"Search for kids' burial site hits home along Interstate 80"
http://www.tdn-net.com/articles/2003/08/18/news/news07.txt
"There's so many acres and acres that are undisturbed," said Bryon Meyer, 25, who installs water and sewer lines around the highway near Fremont. "There's a good chance nobody will ever find them."
Hoping that this guy is wrong, and that Sarah and Philip will soon be found. Their mom and all those that love them need so badly for them to come home.

See Kaye

08-22-2003, 07:15 AM

http://www.theunionleader.com/Articles_show.html?article=25097&archive=1

Bringing the van back to NH.

Couldn't the dirt on the shovel or pickaxe be analyzed to help isolate the location?

mindys

08-28-2003, 05:21 AM

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-uskids223424248aug22,0,2881376.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

Well, I'm glad they are still looking.

mushyb

08-29-2003, 01:23 AM

Search for Missing Kids

TOLEDO -- The News Channel has learned that local law enforcement is planning a very specific search for two missing New Hampshire children near two Ohio Turnpike exits. The FBI confirms a large search is scheduled for next Tuesday at eight o'clock in the morning.

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=1419841

mindys

09-03-2003, 05:12 PM

LE back at it:

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/2449457/detail.html

I really hope these two sweethearts will be recovered soon. But, I know they have strong spirits, maybe they are waiting, not revealing, so their Mother can get through the birth of her twins.

http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20030903/NEWS03/109030058

Bailey1

09-04-2003, 02:51 AM

Why don't they just nail this excuse for a human being "father" by the ear lobes and drag him across the country by foot until HE SPECIFICALLY AND DISTINCTLY SHOWS WHERE THESE KIDS ARE?>

I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. He and He alone knows where these kids are...he confessed, their organs were found in his car..now FORCE HIM TO LOCATE THEM. This is where our judicial system fails "again"..giving him more rights than the victims. Why should our tax dollars as well pay for this man's attorneys why he sits and does nothing why this poor mom and her beautiful children are basically dead...she being dead inside and these kids left like garbage on the sides of a road somewhere because this &*(% thought more about himself than his own children.:mad:

mindys

09-04-2003, 01:05 PM

Two day search in Ohio ends, bodies not found:

http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=1428108

Sharry

09-05-2003, 05:19 AM

Search Stops For Missing Children
September 3, 2003

Authorities Wednesday ended an extensive two-day search for the grave sites of two children believed to have been killed by their father.

http://www.onnnews.com/story.php?record=26463

mindys

09-09-2003, 01:48 AM

DA not giving up:

http://www.wmtw.com/Global/story.asp?S=1430886&nav=7k6rHqAg

mindys

09-14-2003, 11:19 AM

Another search on Saturday, still can't find them:

http://www.thenews-messenger.com/news/stories/20030913/localnews/254643.html

I wonder if they searched the spot in PA we thought about as thoroughly as they are covering Ohio.

DustyRose

09-14-2003, 12:30 PM

I wondered the same thing, Mindys.

You had zeroed in on what sounded like a site that had real possibilities.

I so much wish this poor mother and all of their family and friends will have the closure of being able to finally bring these children home.

I know a link was posted previously about their memorial service, but this article, with a collage of photos and their friends' stories, gives a touching glimpse of these children's lives:

"Remembering Sarah and Philip "
http://www.cmonitor.com/stories/front2003/0815_gehring_service_2003.shtml

mindys

09-14-2003, 02:09 PM

Thanks DustyRose for that link, I had never seen that. I always sensed how very special they were. I want them to make it home.

Sharry

09-15-2003, 11:00 PM

State, Gehring to be in court. Midwest search continues

By David Tirrell-Wysocki, Associated Press, 9/15/2003 16:09

MANCHESTER, N.H. (AP) As the frustrating search for the bodies of Manuel Gehring's two children continues in the Midwest, New Hampshire prosecutors go to court Tuesday to ask a judge to allow them to continue searching Gehring's van for evidence of their suspected murders.

http://www.boston.com/dailynews/258/region/State_Gehring_to_be_in_court_M:.shtml

Doyle

09-18-2003, 07:34 AM

Lawyer: N.H. dad's confession to killing kids was illegal
http://www2.bostonherald.com/news/local_regional/gehr09172003.htm

See Kaye

10-09-2003, 05:31 PM

OH search nears completion...

http://www.theunionleader.com/Articles_show.html?article=27405&archive=1

cmadwolf

10-10-2003, 11:31 AM

could you link the article? I can't get into this and I am at work. Not allowed to register.

Doyle

10-10-2003, 12:19 PM

Ohio search for bodies
of Gehrings ending
By KATHRYN MARCHOCKI
Union Leader Staff

As investigators in Ohio expect to conclude an exhausting exit-by-exit highway search for the bodies of two New Hampshire children this week, authorities here are exploring new methods for finding the gravesites.

A state prosecutor and supervisor in the FBI’s Toledo office on Monday said searches along Interstate 80 should be completed by the end of this week or early next week.

This would mark the end of any formal search for the bodies of Sarah Gehring, 14, and her 11-year-old brother, Philip, both of Concord, said Jim DeLong of the FBI’s Toledo office.

Their father, Manuel A. Gehring, is accused of shooting his children to death inside his van July 4 in Hillsborough County and driving to the Midwest, where he allegedly buried their bodies in shallow graves off Interstate 80, according to state prosecutors and police affidavits.

Gehring, 44, of Concord, has pleaded innocent to the murders.

Assistant New Hampshire Attorney General Jeffery A. Strelzin said investigators here continue to explore new methods to narrow the search for the children’s graves.

The entire search area — a 10-mile stretch along either side of I-80 from Grove City, Pa. to Iowa City, Iowa — spans 700 square miles.

“We’ve been looking at other techniques to use to narrow the search area and to consider the options. Whether those end up in a more formal search down the road, I can’t tell you right now,” Strelzin said. He would not elaborate on the efforts under way, saying it is part of the ongoing homicide investigation.

DeLong said the FBI and Ohio State Highway Patrol should finish searching the last two I-80 exits in Williams County, the westernmost county in the state that borders Indiana, by the end of this week or early next week.

After that, searches will be conducted as tips come in, he said.

Law enforcement officials have devoted thousands of hours to searching exits across the state, DeLong said.

“I wish we could resolve this one way or another,” he said of searchers’ frustration over not being able to locate the gravesites.

Babcat

10-11-2003, 07:42 PM

Those kids are buried by the Mercer exit of I-80 just inside PA before entering Ohio. The description he gave IS Mercer. The problem with his description is that if you turn right off the exit as he claimed... there you shortly encounter a group of roads that come together like spider legs. 62, 19, and further down 58, all come together there. And on top of that there is a side road... if it has a name at all I don't remember it but it also runs to the right.

This is Amish country. Water pumps are everywhere... and so it the odor of decomposition. The Amish bury their animals in abundance along those areas. People learn to ignore the smell. There is also English that live among the Amish but the houses are far apart and they've come to expect the burial of animals by shovel toting people and don't see a red flag.

Doyle

10-16-2003, 07:00 AM

Search for kids' bodies called off in Ohio
http://www.morningjournal.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=10320132&BRD=1699&PAG=461&dept_id=46371&rfi=6

Bailey1

10-16-2003, 07:30 PM

Has anyone thought to drag that bag of slime "father" along his path of hell until he SHOWED them the area?

And we say our constitution is righteous. Not if in this case. He CONFESSED. Get his ass out there and MAKE HIM point them out.

mindys

10-17-2003, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Bailey1
Has anyone thought to drag that bag of slime "father" along his path of hell until he SHOWED them the area?

And we say our constitution is righteous. Not if in this case. He CONFESSED. Get his ass out there and MAKE HIM point them out.

They did, they spent a week dragging his ass around the mid-west right after he was arrested.

I think he's bull****ing, in his mind he gave them a "proper" burial, telling LE right where the children are would not help his case or benefit him in any way, he is of no help here.

mindys

12-01-2003, 08:58 AM

Hunting season open's in Pennsylvania today, I hope something will be seen. These children deserve to be laid to rest where the Mom can visit them.

kylie

12-01-2003, 10:33 PM

The problem with using torture to coerce a confession is that you never know if that confession is the result of the torture or not. And yes, our founding fathers did intend for the Constitution to protect the rights of the accused. They based much of it on the philosopher Becceria, who advocated justice for the good of society, not for revenge and he was against cruel and unusual punishment.

johnny

12-01-2003, 11:20 PM

I say give him a get out of jail free card if he can show them where the bodies are and then bury him where they were.

alpharee

12-02-2003, 01:54 AM

I like your way of thinking there johnny :)

Doyle

12-10-2003, 06:09 AM

The Union Leader doesn't want the state to question a reporter who interviewed Manuel Gehring, the Concord man accused of murdering his two children. In a motion filed in Hillsborough County Superior Court in Manchester, the newspaper argued that the state had not proven that the reporter's testimony was necessary.
http://www.cmonitor.com/stories/front2003/120803gehring_2003.shtml

Teresa Knight, Sarah and Philip Gehring's mother, gave birth to twin girls the day before Thanksgiving, a Concord Hospital spokeswoman said yesterday. Mallory Rae and Molly Arlene were born Nov. 26 at 1 p.m. Knight lives in Hillsboro with her husband, Jim Knight.
http://www.cmonitor.com/stories/front2003/120308knighttwins_2003.shtml

mindys

12-10-2003, 08:08 AM

God Bless Sarah & Philip's new sister's!!

Bailey1

12-10-2003, 01:05 PM

Kylie, I believe if done slowly and in a room with good, common sense people torture CAN be used effectively.

Case in point, if one doesn't know for sure if the perp is guilty...then do a finger, toe,...S-L-O-W-L-Y. If the perp still doesn't give you results then 99.9% sense means he doesn't know. The key with missing persons is the perp WILL KNOW where the body is at a bare minium if not where he left the scene. It's not too unsensical to believe someone like Rodriquez would cough this information up at the sake of PAIN.

Now what I don't mean is rape, taking one's eyes/ears out but just good old fashioned pain. Losing a finger/toe is nothing compared to never knowing or finding a missing child. At the very least saving her/him.

Let's face it ..this guy had her blood stains in his car and was caught on video in the area. I HAVE NO GUILT WHATSOEVER IN PURSING SOME FORM OF TORTURE to get him to confess.

You have to realize we are not so concerned he "did" it as much as finding her. What is the worse can happen? He admit he doesn't know? He can't confess to her whereabouts if she isn't there....

There is a real problem with this system giving someone like this they have EVIDENCE to believe he did it an attorney? They sealed this families fate of prolonging a night mare and may have cost this gril's life because this ASS doesn't have enough sense to give info. Why? I have no idea. He is fried anyway. I think in many ways he doesn't care about prison.

One thing I have come to the conclusion on with these cowards is they can dish it out but can't take it. Give him some pain and I rest my case! He'll lead them to her let alone confess.

Bailey1

12-10-2003, 01:12 PM

Look at the Gehrig (spelling) children case. The father in the beginning confessed and even was willing to lead the cops to their bodies. It was only after he felt comfortable and was given an attorney he buttoned up.

He knew his kids were dead so rationalized let's save my ass now.

If these guys had any morals of remorse after the deed was done they w/never have done the deed in the first place.

I have no idea why Westerfreek has not confessed. You would think he w/feel remorseful. Hes done the rest of his life anyway. Evil will continue to be evil until they go to the grave .

To me these monsters know they are doomed and do the opposite of what they need to do. They just dig their hole deeper. They listen to the Devil instead of God...the more they sin the more they sin..(lie, shut up, protect there crime, deny).

Bailey1

12-10-2003, 01:36 PM

I had a brain warp in this thread. I thought I was posting to the Dru thread (sorry). Stil applies here.

These cases so frustrate me and I think I speak for alot of folk's here when I mention torture it is out of shear heartbreak for the victims and families that drives me to say such things.

Maybe a better alternative to hurting someone physically for life is a different form of pain/discipline.

How bout putting these characters in a dark room with no food or water for an extended period of time until they give information. No counsel or someone to cry too or gain encouragement from. Just time to themselves and themselves (and God if they choose) but also the devil. He can be their punishment.

These guys in many ways are pampered...told their rights, have an attorney beefing up their denial by "defending" them regardless if the attorney's believe they are innocent. The message they are sending to these deranged souls is they didn't do anything wrong or worse..."it wasn't that bad"...that is why we are here for you??????

sad but true.

I guess we all need to Trust God...

Doyle

01-06-2004, 05:55 AM

The FBI, Concord police and New Hampshire attorney general's office are preparing to resume the search for the bodies this spring. Their father, Manuel Gehring, is awaiting trial.
http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/localRegional.bg?articleid=1015

WasBlind

02-05-2004, 05:57 AM

Has anyone heard any more news about Sarah & Philip?

blueclouds

02-19-2004, 12:16 PM

C O W A R D

THIS A-HOLE KILLED HIMSELF. I'M FURIOUS.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20040219_544.html

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Northeast/02/19/missing.children.ap/index.html

LinnieB

02-19-2004, 01:00 PM

OMG, I AM SOOOOO DISCUSTED BY THIS !! STUPID S.O.B ! :loser:

johnny

02-19-2004, 02:18 PM

One less evil person on this earth!

Babcat

02-20-2004, 03:57 AM

I say... What took him so long? Hell.. the rest of us couldn't stand him still breathing our air. You'd think he would have picked up on his total uselessness to and revulsion from society. He was zero help trying to find those bodies anyway. What a TOTAL :loser:

dannyodie

02-20-2004, 07:31 AM

book antiqua stick a fork in him he is done... I guess he thought he was going to get to see his children again in heaven, where he is going he won't need a shovel, only a fork.. they say he buried these kids in the mid west, what part of the mid west do they think, desert area or what?

mindys

02-20-2004, 08:15 AM

Dannie, There is a thread in the Missing but not forgotten Forum on the Gehrings that might answer some of your questions.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5113

dannyodie

02-20-2004, 10:28 PM

I overlooked that this case was still on the missing link as well, I posted a new post today in the missing but not forgotten link, please read I wish I could put it in the missing link without having to do it all over again...

babylove

02-21-2004, 12:57 PM

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/localRegional.bg?articleid=2097

I don't know he made it this long. As a parent I can't even imagine how sick in the head you'd have to be to kill your own babies. I'm truly suprised he didn't commit suicide a longtime ago.

I have been following this case since last July... its so sad they still haven't found Sarah and Phillip... what an awful way to die, at the hands of your own father. :(

I pray for the recovery of their bodies so that they may have a proper burial.

Doyle

02-25-2004, 05:37 AM

As one of Manuel Gehring’s two public defenders, Barbara Keshen saw the horrible evidence investigators had compiled against her client. But she also learned to respect and appreciate him.
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/02232004/news/1525.htm

WasBlind

03-23-2004, 05:00 PM

For Sara and Phillip, for answers and soon, Lanie

Doyle

07-06-2004, 06:17 AM

Beneath a photo of a smiling Sarah Gehring, an English teacher evoked her energy and effervescence.

"She was a can of Coke all shook up and opened at full blast most of the day," Tim Dougherty wrote on the Concord High School yearbook page dedicated to the 14-year-old, who, along with her 11-year-old brother, Philip, was last seen with their father at last year's July Fourth fireworks show.

Sarah and Philip were killed by their father, Manuel Gehring, who then drove cross-country and later told authorities he buried them somewhere in the Midwest, not far from Interstate 80.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2004/07/02/a_year_after_gehring_children_killed_bodies_remain _missing/

WasBlind

08-13-2004, 04:14 AM

For Sara and Phillip

anniem15

06-17-2005, 05:41 PM

Mother plans daunting search for slain children
Bodies of son, daughter somewhere off I-80 in the Midwest

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8258509/

mysteriew

06-18-2005, 12:36 AM

From the link

He said the graves were in tall grass near an old-fashioned water pump and wire fence, within sight of a tan or yellow building. Weathered firewood, concrete pipes standing on end and a concrete slab were nearby, he told authorities.

The search zone is 10 miles both north and south of the nearly 700 miles of I-80 between Grove City, Pa., where Gehring bought a shovel, and Iowa City, Iowa. By that point in his journey, he said, the children already had been buried.

The FBI expects more tips from its release soon of an audiotape and transcript of Gehring describing the burial spot. Rachelfield.com, a missing-persons Web site in Illinois, has a map of Gehring’s route and public service announcements available for broadcast.

CaliKid

06-18-2005, 03:28 AM

What a tragedy. My prayers go with this mom as she tries to find her children.

mysteriew

06-19-2005, 01:00 AM

Terri Knight knows all too well about the cycle of life. In the summer of 2003, she lost her two children to a murderous ex-husband. Five months later, she gave birth to twins, who were lifeboats in her sea of devastation.

``It would have been so easy for me to start drinkin' and sinkin', but I didn't because I was pregnant,'' she says. ``And I have to keep getting up in the morning because they are there.''

Her missing children, Sarah and Philip, are there too.

Knight needs people in the Midwest to take notice of the case again. And she hopes baring her own emotions will help.

To that end, she is anxious for the public to see and hear public service announcements that soon will be available for television and radio stations. They are intended to tug at people's heartstrings, including segments from ``The Lemonade Stand,'' the movie Philip appeared in.

And she hopes they will help bring the children home.

``They at least deserve to be found and to have a proper burial,'' she said. Then, after a pause: ``And maybe I deserve a little bit too. I don't deserve to have to be doing this.''

http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=89914&format=&page=2

CaliKid

06-19-2005, 06:05 AM

My heart breaks for this woman. It's bad enough to know your children are dead; it's a hundred times worse to think of their bodies lying out there somewhere in the great unknown.

mysteriew

06-23-2005, 09:07 PM

Hoping to find two murdered youngsters and solve a 2-year-old mystery, the FBI released an audiotape Thursday of their father describing the spot somewhere along Interstate 80 in the Midwest where he buried the bodies.

The FBI posted the tape and a transcript on its Web site, hoping the shock of hearing Manuel Gehring's account might bring forward people who recognize the spot he described.

He told authorities he killed the children shortly after leaving Concord, then drove for hours, maybe days, with their bodies in the van before burying them along a 700-mile stretch of I-80 from Pennsylvania to Iowa.

On the tape, Gehring recalled walking through tall grass near an old-fashioned water pump and wire fence, within sight of a tan or yellow building. He said several concrete pipes standing on end were nearby.

"It looked like abandoned property," he said at one point. "It was like a dumping area."

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/06/23/national/a114251D54.DTL

KrazyKollector

06-24-2005, 12:10 AM

Bobbisangel

06-24-2005, 12:43 AM

If he murdered his kids to get back at his wife they will probably never be found. He probably knew exactly where he left them. The ultament revenge would be for the wife to never find the kids. Was it for revenge?

mysteriew

06-24-2005, 07:55 PM

Manuel Gehring was calm as he tried to direct investigators to the unmarked grave in the Midwest where he'd buried his two children after shooting them in the family's minivan. The New Hampshire man sounded more like a tourist trying to recall the details of a scenic trip.

There were shady trees hanging to the ground, almost like willows; and long grass topped with what looked like African violets that was ''kind of pretty and catches your eye," Gehring said during an interview taped nearly two years ago that was posted yesterday on the FBI's website, www.fbi.gov.

''It looked like abandoned property," said Gehring, offering vague details of a spot several miles off Interstate 80, somewhere between Pennsylvania and Iowa, where he buried 14-year-old Sarah and 11-year-old Philip in July 2003. ''It was like a dumping area."

http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/06/24/fbi_renews_bid_to_find_remains_of_children/

He buried the kids in July. So any searches taking place at now would show the site as almost the same now as it was then.

mysteriew

06-26-2005, 06:06 PM

''The perfect outcome -- that I find the location, and it's all resolved -- I get it; that's not likely," she said in an interview Friday. ''But if I can reach people out there and generate interest, I'll know when I drive home that someone else is thinking about it, that someone will keep looking."

She will fly to Detroit on July 6 with her husband, James, where they plan to rent a car and drive from Toledo to Iowa City, then back toward Joliet, Ill., where authorities have recently focused inquiries because of details in Gehring's confession. Knight said she also wants to stop along the route to connect with ''real people" who know the area well.

The rush of that distant stretch of I-80 is never far from her thoughts. During an interview, as a baby monitor broadcast the sound of the twins babbling in their cribs, Knight fielded calls from an FBI agent on her cellphone while calling up her website, www.philipandsarah.com, on her laptop, checking for new tips about possible grave sites.

She confessed she was rattled by one recent e-mail, from a farmer's wife in Ohio, who described seeing a van with New Hampshire plates on her property two summers ago, its rear door open and a shovel in the back.

The FBI later told her the farm had already been checked out.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/06/26/a_sorrow_their_mother_cannot_bury/

mysteriew

06-26-2005, 06:11 PM

The search for two murdered New Hampshire children has drawn all types of tips and offers of help. Among the volunteers is a dedicated stranger who has poured over the case and has his own theory on where to find Philip and Sarah Gehring.

Nikodem himself filed a right-to-know request with the state last year for the entire 2,200-page investigative file. He spent a week reading it.

He focused on a state game preserve in Polk, Pa., about 10 miles from a Wal-Mart in Grove City where Gehring stopped to buy a pick ax and shovel during a cross-country trip that ended with his arrest in Gilroy, Calif.

Nikodem said he's never met nor spoken to the children's mother, Terri Knight, but he said if he could find a specific site, then others can, too.

Nikodem phoned the owner of a nearby convenience store who confirmed the presence of several landmarks Gehring said were at the grave site. Nikodem also flew to the scene and said he was amazed to see all the landmarks.

"I'm doing it with no resources from Concord," he said. "I kept thinking, if we could get a couple of thousand people to do it."

http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/special/6_25special2.htm

cwiz24

12-02-2005, 02:49 PM

Authorities in Hudson, OH will be conducting a news conference this afternoon regarding New Hampshire missing siblings Sarah and Philip Gehring. Human remains have been found in the area and it is expected that the authorities will confirm that these are the remains of the two children. I, for one, hope it is them and their mother can finally have some closure.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/12/02/ohio_authorities_schedule_briefing_on_missing_nh_c hildren/

http://www.philipandsarah.com/index.html

Rocky

12-02-2005, 03:52 PM

2 bodies found (http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/12/02/ohio_authorities_schedule_briefing_on_missing_nh_c hildren/)

CONCORD, N.H. --Human remains discovered in Hudson, Ohio, may be those of two children from New Hampshire murdered by their father in 2003, authorities said Friday...

Sarah, 14, and Philip, 11, were murdered by their father as he fled across the country after watching the fireworks in Concord on July 4, 2003. Manuel Gehring confessed and said he buried them within sight of Interstate 80, but couldn't remember where. He killed himself in prison before he could be tried.

That's about 80 miles down route 80 from Grove Pennsylvania where he bought the shovel at Walmart.

At least Mom will finally have closure...

mysteriew

12-02-2005, 04:36 PM

See Kaye

12-02-2005, 05:01 PM

Thanks for posting that, Rocky. I hope they can quickly id the bodies so that Mom can give them a proper burial and get on with her life with her twins.

-ck

Bobbisangel

12-03-2005, 08:34 AM

No matter what else Gehring may have said, I always believed he was telling the truth about the fact that he killed the children. I don't believe he didn't remember where they were, I think he just wanted to keep Teri from knowing.
I hope this is them, so that now she will at least be able to bury them properly and have a grave to mourn over.

I heard that on the news and I got excited. It sounds really crazy to get excited about bodies being found I know. I just know what their mother has gone through trying to find them and how hateful that husband was because he wanted to hurt her so much for some reason. I really didn't think the kids would ever be found.

I just hope and pray that it is the kids. It is so horrible that a dad would do something so awful to his own children....he should have killed himself. Now the mom can hopfully find some peace and bury her little kids. Sad it had to be this way though.

mysteriew

12-03-2005, 08:50 AM

I just posted a couple of new articles in the missing but not forgotten thread.

nanandjim

12-03-2005, 05:40 PM

I didn't realize this idiot of a father killed himself. Good riddance!

mysteriew

12-03-2005, 08:30 PM

I thought it was interesting that the woman who found the children, was not just their randomly. She had heard the story of the Gehring children and went there to search.

mindi77

12-03-2005, 08:45 PM

Autopsies Confirm Bodies Are N.H. Siblings

By M.R. KROPKO, Associated Press Writer
1 hour, 4 minutes ago

HUDSON, Ohio - Two small bodies found buried off Interstate 80 with duct-tape crosses over them were identified Saturday as the New Hampshire siblings killed by their father 2 1/2 years ago, authorities announced.
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Dental records confirmed that the bodies are those of Sarah Gehring, 14, and her brother, Philip, 11, said Summit County Medical Examiner Lisa Kohler.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051203/ap_on_re_us/missing_children

fran

12-03-2005, 08:52 PM

Now these poor babies can rest in peace. This is so sad. I'm glad the mom finally has her children back.

fran

dannyodie

12-04-2005, 08:57 AM

HUDSON, Ohio (AP) - After he shot and killed his two children, Manuel Gehring dug a grave about 2-feet deep in the clay-like soil of northeast Ohio and made two crosses out of sticks, held together by duct tape, which he laid over their bodies. The New Hampshire man later told investigators that he said a prayer for the children's souls.

The gesture was an effort to ease his conscience, said Senior Assistant Attorney General Jeffery Strelzin of New Hampshire.

The bodies of Sarah Gehring, 14, and her brother, 11-year-old Philip Gehring, were identified Saturday - two days after the corpses were found buried off Interstate 80 and 2 1/2 years after the children were slain.

(waiting for link to article--Animal)

mysteriew

12-04-2005, 09:16 AM

CrimeHater

12-04-2005, 06:31 PM

Sara shot 3 times, Philip shot 4 times. Terri cannot even draw any comfort from thinking that the kids didn't know what was happening to them. There is no way they couldn't know their father was shooting them.
Its sickening! Its bad enough he killed his own children, but to just be outwardly cruel about it... shooting them in the head, the arms, neck. I feel for those children still 2.5 years later.
I don't remember, but was it ever discovered what his motive was? Why he did this? I would like to know.

mysteriew

12-05-2005, 04:26 AM

Its sickening! Its bad enough he killed his own children, but to just be outwardly cruel about it... shooting them in the head, the arms, neck. I feel for those children still 2.5 years later.
I don't remember, but was it ever discovered what his motive was? Why he did this? I would like to know.

I think he said he intended to kill himself also. Yet he didn't. And even after capture he would only give clues to the burial site, investigators always felt that he knew where the site was, and just wouldn't tell.
He was in a custody battle with the children's mother and it has always been thought that he did this to hurt her. That is why he didn't kill himself right away, he wanted to see her reaction first. And then he killed himself so that no one could get the info about the burial site out of him. Knowing that it would hurt the mother more.

PrayersForMaura

12-05-2005, 03:26 PM

I thought it was interesting that the woman who found the children, was not just their randomly. She had heard the story of the Gehring children and went there to search.
I agree ... check this story out:

Woman's obsession led to discovery of children's grave

AKRON, Ohio -- The woman who found the bodies of two missing New Hampshire children went out searching with her dog more than 40 times in a personal mission that her friends and family considered obsessive.

Stephanie Dietrich, a grocery store cashier, said Monday she was motivated to search for the remains of Sarah Gehring, 14, and her brother Philip, 11, by their mother's public plea for help.

The children were shot by their father, Manuel Gehring, who told authorities he drove for hours with their bodies in his van before burying them somewhere along 700 miles of Interstate 80. He gave police several clues but said he couldn't remember the location, then committed suicide in jail before a trial.

Dietrich, 44, had been searching since July in various locations near her northeast home in Akron because of clues that the grave site could be in the region. Last week, she began looking in the upscale suburb of Hudson for things like tall grass, sewer pipes and a wood pile that the father described.

She was searching in a remote wooded location with a muddy access road Thursday when her 101-pound mixed breed dog, Ricco, stopped.

"He talks with his body," she told The Associated Press. "He does things that communicate to me. He just laid down and started looking at me."

More: http://www.onnnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=4203927&nav=Lrzs

petra

12-05-2005, 08:48 PM

and another article about Ms. Dietrich who found the remains...a determined sleuther!!!!

Bless her, http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051205/ap_on_re_us/missing_children;_ylt=AlERNTv2BeUZz862VZS_q_9H2ocA ;_ylu=X3oDMTA3MjBwMWtkBHNlYwM3MTg

petra

12-05-2005, 11:48 PM

mysteriew

12-06-2005, 12:54 AM

We need more people with obsessions like hers.

mysteriew

12-07-2005, 01:22 AM

Y
esterday afternoon, personal items worn by Sarah and Philip Gehring on the day their father killed them in 2003 were returned to the hands of their mother, Teri Knight.

Senior Assistant Attorney General Jeffrey Strelzin and Concord Police Detective Todd Flanagan delivered them to Knight yesterday. They had just returned from Hudson, Ohio, where Sarah and Philip's remains were discovered Thursday. Together with Knight and victim/witness advocate Jennifer Hunt, they looked over photographs of the burial site.

Flanagan and Strelzin left for Ohio within hours of hearing from the Hudson police on Friday that remains were found that could have been those of the Gehrings. Driving up to the site for the first time Saturday morning, Strelzin and Flanagan both said they didn't need to get all the way there to know that it was likely the one.

Strelzin said as soon as he saw the tall grass lining the side of the road, he had a feeling. He said the site matched his mental image by about 95 percent.

"It was certainly satisfying to be at the spot where the children were finally found," he said.

Strelzin made regular calls throughout the weekend to Hunt, describing the site and explaining the proceedings at the medical examiner's office. She relayed messages to Knight.

Strelzin said everyone he met in Ohio treated Sarah and Philip with reverence. Flower bouquets were placed at the burial site and at the end of the road. At the medical examiner's office, officials were professional and respectful of the children, he said.

On Sunday, before driving to the airport for their flight home, Flanagan and Strelzin visited the site. They got up early to beat the media crews there.

"The idea was to go there and pay our respects," Strelzin said.

As they stood there, a car drove up. Dietrich and her dog, Ricco, who helped her find the bodies, climbed out. Dietrich was one of hundreds of volunteers in New Hampshire and across the Midwest working to find the remains. With about five sites in mind to search and a trunk full of shovels, Flanagan said, Dietrich was just "a mom who wanted to help another mother out."

Dietrich hugged them, and "we gave Ricco a hug," he said.
http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051206/REPOSITORY/512060371/1031

lostfaith

12-07-2005, 02:42 AM

We need more people with obsessions like hers.

I agree. It must be a good feeling for her, to be able to give someone that kind of peace.

lostfaith

02-17-2006, 11:44 PM

CBS4) CONCORD, N.H. Thursday was a special day for the family of Philip and Sarah Gehring. They are the new Hampshire children killed by their own father.

It was the opening night for the annual play at their old middle school. Their mother is ready for the show to begin -- in honor of her children.

http://cbs4boston.com/local/local_story_047214934.html

more at link......

February 17. 2006 8:00AM

LORI DUFF / Monitor staff
Brandon Oberg sits on the street in the Beaver Meadow production of The Gift, a play about homelessness.

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T
he year was 2000, and leading the cast of 80 in the Beaver Meadow Elementary School's production of The Giftwas a 9-year-old boy with an engaging smile and a brand new passion.

"He found something he loved to do and he was really good at it. He understood about showing the audience sad, happy, nervous,"said the mother of the 9-year-old from that production. "He got positive reinforcement, but more than that, it was then that he really began to find himself."

The boy who starred in The Giftsix years ago was Philip Gehring. Three years later, Philip and his older sister Sarah were murdered by their father. Last December, their long-missing bodies were found in Ohio, which finally allowed their mother, Teri Knight, to bring her children home.

another article, a little longer. It is nice to see them remembered.

http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060217/REPOSITORY/602170311/1223