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Timex
06-10-2005, 08:56 PM
I have a list of things that should be gathered about a victim at a death scene. Some of the answers I know we have...others, perhaps we can try to find.

Since the list is rather long, I will break it down into several posts. If you happen to know any of the answers...let me know and I will edit the post to include the answer. If we arent sure about an answer, I will indicate that also.

Timex
06-10-2005, 08:56 PM
1. Victim’s full name: Janet Marie Christiansen Abaroa

2. Sex: Female

3. Race

4. Date of birth: 6/19/79

5. Place of birth: Annandale, VA?

6. Nickname

7. Maiden or previous name used: Janet Marie Christiansen

8. Height

9. Weight

10. Hair

11. Any physical defects

12. Wear glasses

13. Wear dentures

14. Marital status: Married

15. Children: Kaiden

Timex
06-10-2005, 08:57 PM
16. Present employment: Martin Marietta Materials

17. Former employment: EuroSport

18. Employment bureaus or services used

19. Union or trade organizations

20. Military history

21. Neighbors, friends, and acquaintances:Carr, Thomas E & Karen S;
Farmer, Leo; Gauthier, Leonard & Mona; Sealy, Kenneth Jr; Porter, Charles;
Huff, Michael & Kathryn; Cole, James L; Staton, E F

22. Doctors

23. Hospital records

24. Druggist frequented

25. Insurance

26. Financial status

27. Accountant

28. Present address: 2606 Ferrand Dr

29. Former addresses: Carrboro, NC

30. Check newspaper morgues for any stories on victim

Timex
06-10-2005, 08:57 PM
31. Did victim call for any police services

32. Did victim call for any fire services

33. Did victim mention any strange mail or phone calls

34. Complete history of education: Went to high school and college in Virginia. Attended Southern Virginia University in Buena Vista, Va
Graduated with her Associates Degree in Social Sciences in Dec. 2000.
returned to SVU in August 2001 to complete her last two years.

35. Churches, religion, past and present: LDS

36. Clubs, organizations, etc

37. Habits

38. Hobbies: Soccer

39. Automobile: 2001 Acura 3.0 CL

40. Automobile repairs

41. Usual mode of travel

42. Any key service

43. Home services

44. Home repairs

45. Yard work

Timex
06-10-2005, 08:57 PM
46. Recent purchases of appliances, furniture, etc: Washer/Dryer?

47. Magazine salesman

48. Postmen

49. Trash man

50. Any solicitors in area recently

51. Any photographs taken recently

52. Any deaths in family recently

53. List all friends, acquaintances, old and new: Katie Burgess, Desiree Mattice, Candice and Ben Lingan, Sonnet Dunn, Tiffany Parks, Jeffery Vaisey, Micah Valentine (all friends from SVU)

54. Pets: 2 cats, 2 dogs

55. Jury duty

56. Trips: Family trip (w/Raven and Kaiden), out west, December 2004

57. Usual type of outer clothing worn

58. Usual type of inner clothing worn

59. Clothing store frequented

60. Department store frequented

Timex
06-10-2005, 08:58 PM
61. Shoe stores
62. Shoe repair shop
63. Jewelry store or repair shop
64. Library frequented
65. Barber or beauty shop used
66. Grocery store frequented
67. Any other type store frequented
68. Criminal record

Timex
06-10-2005, 08:59 PM
There is another form...but Im not sure how to get it here. Once I can figure it out...I'll post it too.

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:21 PM
Name of Deceased: Janet Marie Christiansen Abaroa

First Middle Last

Address:

Age: Race: White Black Hispanic Asian American Indian Unknown

Sex: Male Female

Telephone Number:

Marital status: S M W D Separated Unknown

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:21 PM
Next of kin:

Name: Raven Samuel Abaroa

Address: 2606 Ferrand, Durham, NC 27005

Telephone number:

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:21 PM
Police notified by:

Date: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 Time: 22:58

Name: Raven Samuel Abaroa

Address: 2606 Ferrand, Durham, NC 27005

Telephone number:

Relationship to deceased: Husband

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:22 PM
Deceased found:

Date: Time:

Address:

Location: Apartment House Townhouse Other

Entrance by: Key Cutting chain Forcing door Other

Type of lock on door:

Condition of other doors and windows: Open Closed Locked Unlocked

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:22 PM
Body Found:

Living room Dining room Bedroom Kitchen Attic Basement Other

Location in room:

Position of body: On back Face down Other

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:22 PM
Condition of body:

Fully clothed Partially clothed Unclothed

Preservation: Well preserved Decomposed

Estimated rigor: Complete Head Arms Legs

Livor: Front Back Localized

Color:

Blood: Absent Present Location

Ligatures: Yes No

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:23 PM
Apparent wounds: None Gunshot Stab Blunt force

Number:

Location: Head Neck Chest Abdomen Extremities

Hanging: Yes No Means:

Weapon(s) present: Gun (estimate caliber )

Type:

Knife:

Other:

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:23 PM
Condition of surroundings: Orderly Untidy Disarray

Odors: Decomposition Other:

Evidence of last food preparation:

Where:

Type:

Dated material:

Mail:

Newspapers:

TV Guide:

Liquor bottles:

Perishable foods:

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:24 PM
Last contact with deceased:

Date:

Type of contact:

Name of contact:

Evidence of robbery: Yes No Not determined

Identification of deceased: Yes No

If yes, how accomplished:

If no, how is it to be accomplished:

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:24 PM
Evidence of drug use: (prescription and nonprescription) Yes No

If drugs present, collect them and send with body.

Evidence of drug paraphernalia: Yes No

Type:

Evidence of sexual deviate practices: Yes No

Type: (collect and send with body)

Name and telephone number investigating officer:

ewwwinteresting
06-10-2005, 09:27 PM
Maybe LE would be so kind to fill out this information for us??

Timex
06-10-2005, 09:29 PM
Maybe LE would be so kind to fill out this information for us??


I doubt it...thats why I said perhaps we could try to find some of it. No doubt, some we wont be able to answer...but I figured it was worth a try. If no interest, Ill delete it.

JerseyGirl
06-10-2005, 10:31 PM
I see postman, trash man, etc, on the list. Janet & Raven had also used a babysitter. I don't know any information at all about that person or whether it was family, a friend, or even a teen that was hired from the neighborhood.

Timex
06-10-2005, 10:31 PM
Question for anyone that may know....

In the video, Janet is walking Kaiden...pushing him in the stroller. I assume they are on their street. Did she walk routinely? Was Raven always with her when she walked?

tiffany
06-10-2005, 10:37 PM
No clue....but Janet was always doing something sporty. She liked to keep in shape...and she was a new mom...she was probably trying to loose some weight after the birth...not that she had to...she was always SOOO skinny!

SouthEastSleuth
06-10-2005, 10:39 PM
Question for anyone that may know....

In the video, Janet is walking Kaiden...pushing him in the stroller. I assume they are on their street. Did she walk routinely? Was Raven always with her when she walked?
You know, there was on picture on ravenstree.com where the caption refers to them taking Raven on his first hike... Was Janet a hiker?

tiffany
06-11-2005, 10:39 AM
Oh okay thanks...I was really confused!

JerseyGirl
06-11-2005, 12:03 PM
You're welcome. I went back and deleted my old post since I know you've now seen it. I'm not sure if you know how to delete old posts. You click the button that says "edit" at the bottom right of your post. When the edit page opens, near the top, check the selection that says "delete post" (or something like that), and then click the button that says delete post. I'll be deleting this one as well when I know that you've seen it, (just to keep this thread orderly). :)

PrayersForMaura
06-12-2005, 12:38 PM
Timex... thanks for dong this, good thread.

I believe we have learned from Rooster that they had two dogs but this is not confirmed.
Is Rooster still around or does anyone else know for sure?

I will delete this post after we get an answer.
I agree with golfmom, maybe this thread should be discussion free and onyl timex posts with the information?
Maybe we can have a separate thread for discussion of this thread, and make this thread a sticky?

Timex
06-12-2005, 12:41 PM
There were 2 dogs in the video, assume both were thiers?

PrayersForMaura
06-12-2005, 06:18 PM
There were 2 dogs in the video, assume both were thiers?
Yes ... so you can update #54. I think it's safe to assume.

54. Pets: 2 cats, 1 dog

JerseyGirl
06-12-2005, 08:37 PM
Did they have two cats? How did I miss that? And we've heard that there were two dogs but I don't know if they still had them or not. Timex, feel free to delete all of my posts that are on this thread at this point.

SouthEastSleuth
06-12-2005, 08:55 PM
Did they have two cats? How did I miss that? And we've heard that there were two dogs but I don't know if they still had them or not. Timex, feel free to delete all of my posts that are on this thread at this point.
Maybe I jumped the gun, as far as the two cats (I gave that info to Timex to include). I don't know the original source of the info, but I picked it up from Post #2, on the Timeline thread:


Known Pets of Janet and Raven:
Shanuk (dog)
Ashes (charcoal cat)
Lucky (short hair black cat).

According to Raven: Lucky plays fetch and sleeps at the foot of the bed. Ashes is a very sly cat and sleeps at the head of the bed. Shanuk is just amazing and is a great companion. She sleeps outside or in the living room.

PrayersForMaura
06-13-2005, 01:25 PM
Maybe I jumped the gun, as far as the two cats (I gave that info to Timex to include). I don't know the original source of the info, but I picked it up from Post #2, on the Timeline thread:


Known Pets of Janet and Raven:
Shanuk (dog)
Ashes (charcoal cat)
Lucky (short hair black cat).

According to Raven: Lucky plays fetch and sleeps at the foot of the bed. Ashes is a very sly cat and sleeps at the head of the bed. Shanuk is just amazing and is a great companion. She sleeps outside or in the living room.
I posted that info on the timeline thread... it's from the archived ravenstree.com. There are pictures of the cats there.

PrayersForMaura
06-14-2005, 07:19 PM
Just more proof of two dogs but now no mention of cats.... but no mention of a wife either, so maybe it doens't mean anything. But he did specificaly mention a baby and two dogs.


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Negative Attitude Right Now
Ya know, I posted on here that I would never ever get rid of my VX.... NOw it seems I am so close to throwing in the towel. Between my job, a baby, two dogs and a need for more and more space, I'm just not sure the VX fits the bill. "

MissYouJanet
06-14-2005, 10:54 PM
You know, there was on picture on ravenstree.com where the caption refers to them taking Raven on his first hike... Was Janet a hiker?
Janet loved all sports and outdoor activities. She was always happy to do something sporty.

ewwwinteresting
06-20-2005, 12:49 AM
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Negative Attitude Right Now
Ya know, I posted on here that I would never ever get rid of my VX.... NOw it seems I am so close to throwing in the towel. Between my job, a baby, two dogs and a need for more and more space, I'm just not sure the VX fits the bill. "
Was this written in December 2004? What was he talking about? They were renting a house, Kaiden was born, they both were working, he was embezzling....what was going on financially in 2004 where he needed to sell the VX? Was two incomes and stealing not enough?

PrayersForMaura
06-20-2005, 02:01 PM
Was this written in December 2004? What was he talking about? They were renting a house, Kaiden was born, they both were working, he was embezzling....what was going on financially in 2004 where he needed to sell the VX? Was two incomes and stealing not enough?
I wonder this too ... I wonder if he still owed on it. Maybne he had credit card debt, too, from all his big boy toys?

mysteriew
08-01-2005, 01:59 AM
Blood: Absent Present Location



According to police, she had been stabbed in the chest. Court papers show there were large amounts of blood on the floor, on the wall and near a side door of the home. http://www.wral.com/news/4443707/detail.html

mysteriew
08-01-2005, 02:03 AM
Apparent wounds: None Gunshot Stab Blunt force

Number:

Location: Head Neck Chest Abdomen Extremities

Hanging: Yes No Means:

Weapon(s) present: Gun (estimate caliber )

Type:

Knife:

Other:

According to police, she had been stabbed in the chest.

items seized include a block of knives............Police searched the couple's Dodge Durango, where they found a knife and a pawn shop ticket.
http://www.wral.com/news/4443707/detail.html

mysteriew
08-01-2005, 02:28 AM
39. Automobile: 2001 Acura 3.0 CL

40. Automobile repairs

41. Usual mode of travel



On Thursday, Durham police Cpl. B.E. Bradley was granted to a warrant to search a 1998 Dodge Durango belonging to Raven Abaroa, the victim's husband. The warrant indicates that the day before, police had searched the SUV and the home the couple rented in western Durham off Sparger Road.

After police interviewed Raven Abaroa earlier on Thursday, they asked a judge for permission to search the vehicle for evidence a second time, the warrant said.

"Information disclosed during that interview has suggested that further scientific testing is needed to determine the relationship of the vehicle to the homicide," the warrant said.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/durham/story/2368794p-8746832c.html

JerseyGirl
08-01-2005, 09:34 AM
Mysteriew, I'm so happy to see you in this forum!!! :)

mysteriew
08-01-2005, 09:41 AM
Mysteriew, I'm so happy to see you in this forum!!! :)

LOL, I did some checking in media and there is just not much there! These I found here in the forum, and while reading I noted that the info wasn't included. I am in evidence right now, and think I have found something significant.

JerseyGirl
08-01-2005, 10:12 AM
LOL, I did some checking in media and there is just not much there!
No, there really isn't much. Like I said, this case is oddly quiet. That's why we need you here so desperately! You are the Queen of Media Searches! :)

I am in evidence right now, and think I have found something significant.Please do tell!!! I have to go out for a bit but I'll be sure to check in as soon as I get back.

Jenifred
08-18-2005, 11:00 AM
Body Found:

Living room Dining room Bedroom Kitchen Attic Basement Other

Location in room:

Position of body: On back Face down Other
Janet was found kneeling

JerseyGirl
08-18-2005, 11:31 AM
Janet Abaroa was stabbed in the neck and chest. It was likely the wound to the base of her neck, which cut into an artery and lung, that was the fatal blow, the report says. A sharp object also cut the woman's right middle finger, the report shows. (From the pregnancy thread.)