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YadaYada
06-22-2005, 06:50 PM
Hi,
The church this little boy was found at is just a couple blocks from my house.
I haven't seen this story posted anywhere.


TACOMA, Wash. -- Investigators with the Pierce County Sheriff's Office have identified the toddler found at a Parkland church as a boy named Bobby, but said they have "great concern" about the child's parents, KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reported.
"Something probably bad has happened to the parents," said Pierce County sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer.
The focus of the investigation has shifted to the parents, Troyer said. There was no immediate information on what might have happened to them.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/4639837/detail.html

mysteriew
06-22-2005, 06:57 PM
How scary! The poor little guy is a cutie! And no one in the neighborhood recognises this kid? I wonder what makes the LE think that something happened to the parents, rather than that the kid just wandered away? There must have been something. Keep us updated on this will you please?

YadaYada
06-22-2005, 07:06 PM
I had jury duty this morning when I drove by the church I saw the news vans. When I was coming home, I saw the sign on the church that said to contact Crime stoppers with any info about the boy found there. I don't know anything other than what was in the article and I don't think anyone else does either at this point.
It definitely is scary! I hope the parents are found safe. It doesn't sound good though.
I'll post any new news I can find.

YadaYada
06-22-2005, 07:15 PM
I guess I should have done some homework before I posted this.

Police say the grandmother came forward. She recognized the boy on the news and said he was staying at the mission with his parents.
Police still haven't found the parents but they think he may have been abandoned.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/229533_parkland22ww.html

RPPaolin
06-22-2005, 07:37 PM
Prayers for this precious boy tonight. I hope his grandma can take him in and give him a good life. He deserves so much more.

/hugs

lady-eowyn
06-22-2005, 08:15 PM
OMG!! I hope nothing bad has happened to his parents, but I also hope they haven't abandoned him...bless his wee little heart. He is a cutie!!

My prayers go out to him...

Bobbisangel
06-22-2005, 09:50 PM
I'm so glad that the grandmother saw the little boy and that LE at least know who he is and who his parents are. Maybe they can get to the bottom of this mystery. I hope the gramma is a good person that can take the little boy. If not, I hope he is placed into a wonderful foster home with lots of love. He is such a cutie.

CaliKid
06-22-2005, 10:51 PM
Awww, who could abandon such a sweetheart? I hope they fiind the parents, but I'm glad this child had at least somebody who knew who he is.

YadaYada
06-23-2005, 01:06 AM
Here is an article with pictures of Bobby's parents.
His father has been in quite a bit of trouble with the law.

TACOMA, Wash. -- Detectives are asking for the public's help in finding the parents of a 2-year-old boy who was left at a Parkland church.
The boy has been identified as "Bobby," the son of Robert Tucksen and Pamela Kuich, deputies with the Pierce County Sheriff's Office said.

Tucksen and Kuich were last seen in Pierce County on Father's Day, and were believed to have been staying at a Salvation Army shelter on Sixth Avenue in Tacoma before that, according to a news release from the sheriff's office.

Tucksen is white, 34 years old, 5 feet 10 inches tall and weighs 190 pounds. He has brown hair with a receding hairline and brown eyes. He is wanted in Oregon for a felony probation violation and has a criminal history that includes domestic violence, assault, kidnapping, drug possession and weapon possession, deputies said.

Deputies said Kuich was the victim in the kidnapping, assault and domestic violence incident of which Tucksen is accused. She is 42 years old, 5 feet 1 inch tall, weighs 115 pounds and has blond hair and blue eyes.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/4641079/detail.html

Sheromom
06-23-2005, 01:29 AM
It is hard to know if he was actually abandoned or not. It may be, if they were living on the streets, that they thought he would have a better life if they left him in a safe place with food and water where they knew he would be found. But the man looks rather demonic. I don't understand why the woman was back with him. Is the grandmother maternal or paternal?

2luvmy
06-23-2005, 02:06 AM
My thoughts are that he was left there by his mom and/or dad. He was found with a bottle of water and a cheeseburger and left at a church. Maybe the parents heard of the law passed allowing parents to leave a baby at a church and they left him there since they were living at a shelter. I hope that the father didn't do anything to the mother (it wouldn't surrpise me with his past history), but if he did, at least he didn't harm Bobby and left him where someone could find him.

lady-eowyn
06-23-2005, 09:32 AM
I hope that the father didn't do anything to the mother (it wouldn't surrpise me with his past history), but if he did, at least he didn't harm Bobby and left him where someone could find him.
That was my thought after reading his history and the fact that she WAS the victim in his kidnapping and assault charges. How much you want to be he's done something to her and ran? Thank God this one spared the child though. I hope if either of them turn up alive the are NEVER allowed to take this child back:snooty:

mysteriew
06-23-2005, 02:09 PM
In the initial article, LE stated they thought something bad happened to the child's parents. I wondered at the time what caused them to feel that way. And do they still feel that way?

wykyd_r
06-23-2005, 03:28 PM
Here is an article with pictures of Bobby's parents.
His father has been in quite a bit of trouble with the law.

TACOMA, Wash. -- Detectives are asking for the public's help in finding the parents of a 2-year-old boy who was left at a Parkland church.
The boy has been identified as "Bobby," the son of Robert Tucksen and Pamela Kuich, deputies with the Pierce County Sheriff's Office said.

Tucksen and Kuich were last seen in Pierce County on Father's Day, and were believed to have been staying at a Salvation Army shelter on Sixth Avenue in Tacoma before that, according to a news release from the sheriff's office.

Tucksen is white, 34 years old, 5 feet 10 inches tall and weighs 190 pounds. He has brown hair with a receding hairline and brown eyes. He is wanted in Oregon for a felony probation violation and has a criminal history that includes domestic violence, assault, kidnapping, drug possession and weapon possession, deputies said.

Deputies said Kuich was the victim in the kidnapping, assault and domestic violence incident of which Tucksen is accused. She is 42 years old, 5 feet 1 inch tall, weighs 115 pounds and has blond hair and blue eyes.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/4641079/detail.html
If you follow this link that yada provided and then scroll down to the slideshows, you will find one that shows they recently arrested the father, but still no sign of the mother....

SewingDeb
06-23-2005, 10:22 PM
My thoughts are that he was left there by his mom and/or dad. He was found with a bottle of water and a cheeseburger and left at a church. Maybe the parents heard of the law passed allowing parents to leave a baby at a church and they left him there since they were living at a shelter. I hope that the father didn't do anything to the mother (it wouldn't surrpise me with his past history), but if he did, at least he didn't harm Bobby and left him where someone could find him.


9361.4 in reply to 9361.2

http://www.kirotv.com/news/4644962/detail.html

TACOMA, Wash. -- Detectives questioning the father of a boy who was found at a Parkland church say the man had no idea he was the subject of a search before he was arrested early Thursday near his workplace, KIRO 7 Eyewitness News reported.

Robert Tucksen, 34, told Pierce County sheriff's deputies that he was unaware that he and his family have been in the news for more than two days, ever since his son Bobby was found abandoned at the church.


"'Where have you been for the last few days, and why has that boy been abandoned and you haven't called anybody and where's your wife at?' Those are questions we're talking to him about now," said Ed Troyer, sheriff's spokesman.

~more at link~

Sheromom
06-24-2005, 12:55 AM
Oh, man; it sounds like the poor little guy is used to being left with whoever and isn't even too concerned about it. I hope the mom is alive but I sure have doubts.

KatherineQ
06-24-2005, 02:11 AM
I have stories like this.

I've seen this about 5 times. Among my friends and neighbors and myself, this goes on. Parents who just dump kids, and state they'll be back in a couple hours, and whoosh, they're gone for several days. And their kids are totally pleasant, they eat whatever is given them, and never ask for their parents. Ever. They just pleasantly do what they're told to do. It's bizarre.

Once a preschool classmate's of my son's mom called me, and said her son was asking to get together with my son, I said oh how sweet and she says okay I'll be right there. She brings the 4 year old and a 2 year old with an apparent broken leg. I said oh my he's limping she says he's fine with tylenol and runs off. The next DAY, when I called and said I'm worried and I'm about to call the police, a grandmother shows up and collects the kids without a word and drives off.

God. Prayers for this abandoned boy.

Sheromom
06-24-2005, 01:50 PM
KatherineQ, That is so totally sad. For the life of me, I just can't comprehend it. What is happening to maternal instinct? It's like so MANY mothers don't have it anymore. I had bonded with my children BEFORE they were born. It's almost like this instinct has been bred OUT of the human race. I, too, have seen kids left totally unattended. The parents truly don't seem to care. I hope this little boy is given to a good home BUT this is Washington and CPS here has the attitude that parents are always best even if the kid is abused. :mad:

YadaYada
06-24-2005, 10:16 PM
Police still haven't located Bobby's mom. Her 19 year old daughter says she would never abandon Bobby.
The father is still in jail being held on Domestic violence charges.
I have a bad feeling about the dad being involved.
Just as sad, no one in the family has stepped up to get custody of poor little Bobby.

http://www.king5.com/localnews/stories/NW_062405WABbobby_sisterEL.4107b91b.html

CaliKid
06-24-2005, 11:45 PM
I wish we knew more about the demeanor of the father and whether LE thinks he was actually surprised to hear Bobby's mom is missing or he's faking it.

SewingDeb
06-25-2005, 02:35 AM
I have stories like this.

I've seen this about 5 times. Among my friends and neighbors and myself, this goes on. Parents who just dump kids, and state they'll be back in a couple hours, and whoosh, they're gone for several days. And their kids are totally pleasant, they eat whatever is given them, and never ask for their parents. Ever. They just pleasantly do what they're told to do. It's bizarre.

Once a preschool classmate's of my son's mom called me, and said her son was asking to get together with my son, I said oh how sweet and she says okay I'll be right there. She brings the 4 year old and a 2 year old with an apparent broken leg. I said oh my he's limping she says he's fine with tylenol and runs off. The next DAY, when I called and said I'm worried and I'm about to call the police, a grandmother shows up and collects the kids without a word and drives off.

God. Prayers for this abandoned boy.

I've seen some of this kind of behavior, too. I don't understand it because when I say I will be back in two hours, I will be back in two hours. I've also talked with a mother who suddenly decided to go see her sister in another state and took her daughter and her daughter's friend (both 10 years old) with her without calling the friends parents to ask if it was alright. She finally called them the next day at the prompting of her sister and was really surprised that they had been worried out of their minds. To this day (3 years later) she just cannot understand their anger...says they knew her and should have known their daughter was ok with her. SHEESH! I would have taken charges out on her.

Trino
06-25-2005, 11:31 AM
I have no idea the age and condition of the grandmother, but if this were my grandchild, he would be with me now, not in Child Protective Services.

Lady Sleuth
06-25-2005, 05:40 PM
I have no idea the age and condition of the grandmother, but if this were my grandchild, he would be with me now, not in Child Protective Services.


Amen.

And, he also has a 19 yr. old sister, doesn't he?

Lady Sleuth
jmho

Sheromom
06-25-2005, 07:50 PM
I don't understand why he isn't with the grandmother or sister either. I know for sure my oldest daughter would take her sisters in a heartbeat. It may be that the sister isn't able to provide for them yet; she's still pretty young. The grandmother maybe has health problems that would make it impossible. I just hope he gets what he deserves out of life.

YadaYada
06-26-2005, 10:43 PM
Police are still looking for Bobby's mother.

http://www.thenewstribune.com/news/local/story/4973644p-4545157c.html

I find it very odd that police arrested the father on 112th street and he didn't have anything to do with Bobby being abandoned, or the mothers disappearance.
The church they were staying at is in downtown Tacoma. About 8 miles from where the boy was found. Why would the father be arrested on the exact same street as the church 2 days later?
I'm sure the police have to be thinking the same thing, but they aren't saying much at all.

Kat
03-25-2009, 07:46 PM
http://www.nampn.org/cases/kuich_pamela.html

Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance



Missing Since: June 20, 2005 from Pierce County, Washington
Classification: Endangered Missing Adult
Date Of Birth: N/A
Age: 42
Height: 5'1"
Weight: 135 lbs.
Hair Color: Blonde
Eye Color: Blue
Race: White
Gender: Female

On the 20th June, 2005 at a Parkland Church in Pierce County, a two year old boy was found abandoned. His Mother, Pamela Kuich was nowhere to be seen/not with the boy. Detectives fear Kuich may be the victim of foul play. Kuich was last seen with her boyfriend and son on Fathers Day at a relatives home in Pierce County. She had been staying with her boyfriend and son at area hotels, shelters, and camping in the woods.


Prayers that Pamela is found soon.

Texas Mist
12-27-2010, 07:56 PM
TACOMA, Wash. -- Pierce County investigators said they are hoping the arrest of a suspect in a manís stabbing death will lead to new information in the case of a womanís disappearance.

More than five years after the disappearance of his wife, police said Robert Tucksen remains the one and only person of interest.

more here

http://www.kirotv.com/news/26293390/detail.html

imamaze
11-15-2012, 01:56 PM
Pamela Fay Kuich (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/k/kuich_pamela.html)
The Charley Project

Washington Cold Cases (http://washingtonmissing.blogspot.com/)
Pamela Kuich