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maggief
12-05-2003, 02:48 AM
Knife sheath found in mall parking lot where Dru Sjodin abducted


http://startribune.com/stories/462/4248944.html

mindys
12-05-2003, 03:32 AM
Originally posted by maggief
Knife sheath found in mall parking lot where Dru Sjodin abducted


http://startribune.com/stories/462/4248944.html

I knew it! A lot of us knew it. But I wish it weren't so. :mad:

Thanks for passing along more info.

mindys
12-05-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by MissMisty
Thanks Johnny. I must have missed that. I wonder what race Russell was.
Misty

American Indian.

maggief
12-05-2003, 07:40 AM
TOP STORY


Sjodin blood match reported
GRAND FORKS, N.D. — Bloodstains matching Dru Sjodin's blood type were found in the car of Alfonso Rodriguez Jr., the repeat sex offender charged with abducting her outside a Grand Forks mall, sources close to the investigation said Thursday.
BY PHILLIP PIÑA and RUBÉN ROSARIO / Pioneer Press

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/

Casshew
12-05-2003, 07:49 AM
Bastard!

Dru's family must be suffering so terribly right now... I hope the Police are keeping them well informed prior to these news releases - this info should be coming from LE not the Media to Dru's relatives/friends.

The poor girl, this is just a nightmare.

Cass....

mindys
12-05-2003, 08:41 AM
Oh, this is just awful.

National Media hasn't covered it yet this AM. I thought that was odd.

* There will be a press conference at 2:00 PM CST, 3:00 PM EST. *

maggief
12-05-2003, 09:04 AM
mindys,

FOX has been covering the blood evidence.

mindys
12-05-2003, 09:50 AM
Thanks Maggie, I had been going between the three network shows at the 7:00 news hour watching for school closings. We are having a major snow storm on the East Coast. Our schools did cancel, though the high school kids were/are already on the roads. Yikes.

Yakwoman
12-05-2003, 09:53 AM
Originally posted by johnny
Yakwoman.....Please no morree pie...no morree pie in my face.

Bad Yakwoman! That's johnny's pot pie! :)

Yakwoman
12-05-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Coffeesnob
yakwoman.....do you mind if I ask youwhat city you live in.....
nice to see a fellow Minnesotan here.

Hi Coffeesnob! I live in East Grand Forks, right on the MN/ND border.

sunny
12-05-2003, 10:20 AM
I watched Katie Curic this morning she had Dru's brother on he thinks Dru is still alive. That he has her somewhere. Hope they can find her.
We are having a major snowstorm here we made national news this morning I live in Central Illinois 60 miles south of Chicago we already have 6" on the ground and it is still coming down fast and furiously. No school closings here but if this keeps up I'll bet early dismissal. We snowblowed the driveway at 6:00 AM and it is completly covered now.:( :(

MrsMush99
12-05-2003, 10:24 AM
I am truly saddened by this. I was really hoping for her safe return.

My prayers are with her family during this terrible time.

MrsMush99
12-05-2003, 10:26 AM
Sunny,

Thanks for that update.

Stay safe!! We are supposed to get snow here today as well. It hasn't started yet, but looks like it will any minute!

johnny
12-05-2003, 12:06 PM
"There was a sheath," the source said. "Whether it was connected to him will be determined later. It's been placed into evidence. Initially we thought it was more like a multitool," but upon examination it appeared to belong to a specific type of knife.

Sounds like it could be a carpenters blade, commonly used in all types of construction, especially roofers, and carpet layers. The one with sheaths usually don't have a retractable blade and have a sheath so the razor edge doesn't retract accidentally and also is protective as well. (also people usually don't wear theses on there belts which would explain why the sheath was left behind. (Probably he needed both hands and dropped the sheath when he grabbed Dru and held the knife with the other.

A good side to this type of knife is that they are so sharp that an accidental cut would be very easy, so Dru may be alive.

johnny
12-05-2003, 12:17 PM
What a little "man" I should say beast! His lawyer said he would need a month to prepare for trial? Amazing that they have so much evidence so soon, Great Work so far! (Insanity plea is probably coming)

Knife sheath found in mall parking lot where Dru Sjodin abducted


http://startribune.com/stories/462/4248944.html

mindys
12-05-2003, 12:47 PM
Insanity won't work for him. He was examined by multiple mental health professionals before he last left prison in May and cleared to go. No way he will get off this one. He's in for the rest of his life, the Big House, not the padded one.

Johnny, are you reading the thread?? You keep repeating the same links and info already posted here, on the same page, LOL. Atleast no one will miss something.

starpatch
12-05-2003, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by johnny
What a little "man" I should say beast! His lawyer said he would need a month to prepare for trial? Amazing that they have so much evidence so soon, Great Work so far! (Insanity plea is probably coming)

Knife sheath found in mall parking lot where Dru Sjodin abducted


http://startribune.com/stories/462/4248944.html
Did you see in one of the articles that the ba$tard was not convicted on a 1979 case, of abducting a woman at knife point, then taking her away and raping her twice.

I am still praying for Dru's safe return...but....it does look grim.

He may have used the knife used in cutting dry wall.

I just wish that LE could get the creep to tell where she is.

forbidn2u2
12-05-2003, 02:56 PM
http://www.grandforksgov.com/gfgov/home.nsf/5099d8cfb9e7957c86256d8400460f5f/f32ebd1ebad7560588256df3005a0148!OpenDocument

I've been reading on the finddru.com message board and there is a news conference at 2:00 pm. There is speculation that they have found her, but haven't released the information yet and that's what the news conference is about.

Let's pray that it's good news.

johnny
12-05-2003, 03:02 PM
I was posting the links which had been previously posted to use as a reference so no one would have to search it out.

STARPATCH The drywall knife is another use not mentioned and probable.

Didn't notice that non-conviction you pointed out!

starpatch
12-05-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by forbidn2u2
http://www.grandforksgov.com/gfgov/home.nsf/5099d8cfb9e7957c86256d8400460f5f/f32ebd1ebad7560588256df3005a0148!OpenDocument

I've been reading on the finddru.com message board and there is a news conference at 2:00 pm. There is speculation that they have found her, but haven't released the information yet and that's what the news conference is about.

Let's pray that it's good news.

I had not heard that...I am praying for good news...but...I fear the worst!

I just heard that the Dad did not know about the report in the pioneer Press that there was blood, in the type of Dru's found in the creeps car.

I noticed that the family seems discouraged.

This is all just too horrid.

starpatch
12-05-2003, 03:32 PM
Johhny says: * was posting the links which had been previously posted to use as a reference so no one would have to search it out.*

Thanks for the links.

mindys
12-05-2003, 03:48 PM
I'm sorry for the way that came out Johnny. I'm just overly hungry for new News, especially the news that I pray will come, that Dru is on her way back home, that she has been found. Sorry, I really am so glad you came here.

mindys
12-05-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by forbidn2u2
http://www.grandforksgov.com/gfgov/home.nsf/5099d8cfb9e7957c86256d8400460f5f/f32ebd1ebad7560588256df3005a0148!OpenDocument

I've been reading on the finddru.com message board and there is a news conference at 2:00 pm. There is speculation that they have found her, but haven't released the information yet and that's what the news conference is about.

Let's pray that it's good news.

WOW!! That just gave me a major chill all over.

Just a few more minutes.

wwwxxyyzz
12-05-2003, 03:57 PM
If anyone is interested...

When you click on this link:
http://www.startribune.com/
There is another link near the top of the page called
"Gallery: Chronology of Events"
that has many pictures of the search.

Praying for Dru~

wwwxxyyzz
12-05-2003, 04:06 PM
Her dad called her Doodles...

My heart just breaks for them...

forbidn2u2
12-05-2003, 04:22 PM
I didn't get to see the news conference. I am at work.:(

The posters on finddru.com are saying that it was very uplifting and they hold out hope that she is still alive.

Bring Dru home.

forbidn2u2
12-05-2003, 04:23 PM
http://www.finddru.com/mb.htm

This is an excerpt from the message board regarding the press conference.

forbidn2u2
12-05-2003, 04:24 PM
Alonetheband


8 Posts
Posted - 12/05/2003 : 14:18:13
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

What was said:

ND Attorney General:
-Thanks all of the law enforcement officials involved.
-Thanks all of the volunteers and community for support.
-Says he gained strength from talking with Sjodin's family today, and can see how they can gain strength from each other.

Father:
-Says they are still looking for Dru and will find her.
-Answered questions reguarding the case.

Police Cheif(?):
-Thanks all of the law enforcement officials involved.
-Answers questions reguarding the case.

Court Official(?):
-Answered questions reguarding AR and his cooperation.


more to come......


Sorry, that link didn't take you there. The above is what was said.

mindys
12-05-2003, 04:32 PM
Brandy, thank you.

She is still out there somewhere.

If his lawyer doesn't get some info to LE or the family, there is going to be an even bigger outcry. It just isn't the right stance he and this perp are taking. This lawyer just needs to do the right thing!

starpatch
12-05-2003, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by Kira
Her dad called her Doodles...

My heart just breaks for them...
When I heard the Dad call her Doodles..I felt the same as you.

My hubby thinks she is gone...I am still praying for her return.

I wish that dirty creep would start talking...but..then...he has his *rights*..unlike his victims.

forbidn2u2
12-05-2003, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by mindys
Brandy, thank you.

She is still out there somewhere.

If his lawyer doesn't get some info to LE or the family, there is going to be an even bigger outcry. It just isn't the right stance he and this perp are taking. This lawyer just needs to do the right thing!

You're welcome.

I agree. She is definitely somewhere and he knows where. He's already caught, why doesn't he just tell them where she is. Unless of course, he has an accomplice that he's protecting.

wwwxxyyzz
12-05-2003, 04:52 PM
I agree Starpatch...I'm still praying for a safe return.

I think if the police thought she was dead they would have classified this as a homicide already. So I'm praying that the blood evidence they found was small. Meaning it could have been a small cut as someone mentioned earlier. (my apologies to whomever said it I'm sorry I don't remember who it was)

I also believe since they are not going to cut a deal with the rat b@$tard that they feel they don't need him to find her. Which that could be taken either way. Either they feel she is already gone and they don't want this disgusting pig back out ever again so they aren't going to cut a deal and lose him to the system. Or (I am choosing to stay positive) they have clues as to where she may be and they are sticking with that instead of him. Either way he gets the full extent of the law upside his sick head.

I wish he'd just confess and tell them where she is too!! With all the mounting evidence how can he possibly think that he could get away with this?! And we don't even know a percent of what the LE does.

Praying for Dru~

maggief
12-05-2003, 05:08 PM
http://www.grandforks.com/mld/grandforks/7423965.htm

Posted on Fri, Dec. 05, 2003

State's attorney to release Rodriguez documents
By Xiao Zhang
Herald Staff Writer

The Grand Forks County State's Attorney's Office told the court shortly after noon Friday it would release sealed documents in the case of the suspected kidnapping of UND student Dru Sjodin.

maggief
12-05-2003, 05:12 PM
http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/4248944.html

Knife sheath found in mall parking lot where Dru Sjodin abducted
Chuck Haga and Pat Doyle, Star Tribune

Published December 5, 2003 DRU05

GRAND FORKS, N.D. -- As the man accused of kidnapping Dru Sjodin made his first court appearance on the charge Thursday, prosecutors kept an affidavit detailing their evidence sealed. But a law enforcement source close to the investigation confirmed that a knife sheath was found in the mall parking lot where Sjodin was abducted while talking on a cell phone.

"There was a sheath," the source said. "Whether it was connected to him will be determined later. It's been placed into evidence. Initially we thought it was more like a multitool," but upon examination it appeared to belong to a specific type of knife.

The source would not comment on whether investigators found a knife.

Love_Mama
12-05-2003, 06:29 PM
Have you guy's ever thought that this SOB....who spent all those years in prison just figured if he got caught he'd have nothing to lose. Let see....
he's 50....spent 27 years in prison (I think 27 years) so that mean's he was only 23 years old when they FINALLY put him IN prison? This guy is literally more comfortable in jail that Scott Peterson.

This creepy SOB get's out, live's with his mother, has a nice car (where do you suppose he got that) get's a job with a construction company (wonder if they knew about his record)? and then decides to kidnap Dru. He had a SICK, VILE MIND.....he should never have been let out of prison. I understand this might be changed very soon in Minn. Then there's the two charges where he was aquitted! Does it get worse???

I am praying so hard that they find her alive. This is the first place I look when I get on the computer. I was hoping so much today that maybe they had found her alive ......before I saw what they'd said at the press conference this afternoon.

I don't mean in anyway to condemn her boyfriend but I sure wish he'd have called police right away. I'm sure he feel's terrible about not doing so.

Grandson getting home from school in 10 minutes.....so I'll stop ranting!
xxxxxxxooooooooo
mama

Storm
12-05-2003, 08:08 PM
I read that his 2002 car was purchased with cash provided by his sister.

johnny
12-05-2003, 08:44 PM
I believe he was working for cash, and thats why his record wasn't checked and why it took so long for the information about his employment to come out and construction crews are known for working contract laborer's / cash

I wonder if they have searched the construction site dumpsters in the areas? These types of dumpsters only are dumped when they are full as they are quite costly to dump and they only charge per dump

mindys
12-05-2003, 09:40 PM
Dru's Dad said on I believe LKL, that he didn't think the boyfriend was a BOYFRIEND, like serious dating thing. Perhaps it was a very new relationship. Young people would never think something like THIS could be the reason for a quick hang-up. He got the vibe, both he and the roommate. Chances are, even if he had called right after the first call, the result would be the same. Unless someone had seen a commotion in the parking lot and had the presence to intervene on the spot, nothing would be different right now.

So many broken hearts. This perp has left such a trail of destruction in many people's lives.

johnny
12-05-2003, 09:47 PM
Also I guess since she got off work at 4:00pm it was assumed that she could've been anywhere. When in actuality she shopped for an hour at the mall. " We assume that the phone call happened at the parking lot" I still wonder about the entire conversation with the boyfriend.

Ghostwheel
12-05-2003, 09:58 PM
Originally posted by Kira
I think if the police thought she was dead they would have classified this as a homicide already. Unfortunately, I think they are not classifying this as a homicide yet to try to get the guy to talk. Once classified as a homicide, he has nothing to lose. At this point, he might let something slip that will take LE to where she is.

Unless she is inside somewhere, she'd have frozen to death by now. Even if she was in a protected place, unless there is someone giving her food and water, they'd better find her quick.

MissMisty
12-05-2003, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by forbidn2u2
I didn't get to see the news conference. I am at work.:(

The posters on finddru.com are saying that it was very uplifting and they hold out hope that she is still alive.

Bring Dru home.

Forbidn2u2,
I was at work too. For those who saw it, did her father speak? Did he call her "Doodles" during the press conference? Anything else anyone can share for those of us who missed it?
Much appreciated.
Misty

Love_Mama
12-05-2003, 11:09 PM
6:30 PST Friday......here in CA, Dan Abrams' just interviewed the attorney for this SOB that they have arrested. Asked him if he asked the SOB is he was guilty and the attorney said his client said no. Then Abram's asked if he. as the appointed defense attorney if he felt it was his duty to tell the defendent to tell the truth. (seeing that he was already arrested) the Attorney said yes I did. The SOB keeps saying he didn't do it. Maybe after 27 years in prison this SOB KNOW'S what to say.. Now that I've written SOB four times I'll quit. I don't know why I'm so upset by this. Just seemed to hit me!

xxxxooo
mama

scandi
12-05-2003, 11:23 PM
Hi!

I feel so terrible about this whole abduction and pray she will be found alive too.

When I saw this guy on the news last night I looked real hard at his face. You know, as an artist it is usually the first thing I study as it is so revealing about the whole person - shows attitude, turbulance, expression, etc. Scott has an unusual forhead now that he has lost weight. |Not meaning to be funny, he has what appears to be a humungous vein that winds down from the right corner of his temple to just where his eyebrow begins by the bridge of the nose. It appears as a big worm crawling underneath his skin, and to me has always shown the epitamy of his character, which is deceipt.

Mr Rodriguez has an unusually bulbous forehead with a scar near the lower center. Makes me wonder how he got that scar, and why the shape of his head is so unusual. It might be hereditary, or who knows what, but you very seldom see people with this kind of abnormality unless there is something wrong somewhere. My first thought was with that forehead and his tiny eyes he is slow mentally, a bit challanged. But I don't really think that is it. He has an obsession, and am wondering if some imperfection in the brain has caused the front part of his brain to grow which over the years has expanded the bone as well. It doesn't look like fat, but like the whole front of the head is shaped this way.

I certainly don't mean to be critical. From what I heard last night LE is quite sure he is the perp. Blood in his car, a report of the sheath in the lot and I also heard, which I havn't read here, that 2 video cameras in the lot showed him out there at the time she was abducted.

I pray for this exceptional family, and hope their darling Dru comes home safe to them before it is too late. God speed her recovery with prayers from us all.


Scandi

mindys
12-05-2003, 11:52 PM
How do you guys think he got her through the parking lot, assuming in his car because of the blood stains, and through traffic, with out anyone noticing she was in trouble. I notice the cars around me, mostly. Would anyone have been able to tell for sure something was way wrong in that car. It was close to nightfall but not yet. Has it been reported where in the car the blood stains were?

Outside of keeping perps like this is in prison, I would really like to know how to avoid this kind of situation again, we talked about not getting in the car no matter what we have to do, but what can help should the perp be able to accomplish that??

mindys
12-06-2003, 12:22 AM
I just went to the Dru message board on her site. That place is a circus. There are a few really freaky people posting mean and insulting stuff and I only was able to skim a few topics before I had to get out of there. I'm not posting there. What is wrong some people?? Grrr.

I did read a nice message one of her Aunt's left, it talked about the raspy voice Dru had since childhood, still has. But, I don't know how the people who know Dru can stand reading the other stuff, I couldn't and I don't know any of the family or friends.