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alexia
07-06-2005, 08:32 AM
wow.
there needs to be some serious law changes to keep these guys locked up.

I really thought there was another murderer, wishful thinking. seems that in most cases predators escalate to bigger crimes if they are allowed the opportunity. so many cases!!! again and again.

anyone know what the Jessica Lundy Bill is about?

lady-eowyn
07-06-2005, 09:18 AM
wow.
there needs to be some serious law changes to keep these guys locked up.

I really thought there was another murderer, wishful thinking. seems that in most cases predators escalate to bigger crimes if they are allowed the opportunity. so many cases!!! again and again.

anyone know what the Jessica Lundy Bill is about? Do you mean the Jessica Lunsford act?

if so...

The Jessica Lunsford Act requires those who prey on children under 12 to be sentenced to at least 25 years in prison and, if they get out, to be tracked for life. There are also stipulations in that make it illegal for anyone to harbor a sex offender and the registration requirements were beefed up. But it only applies to Florida at this point.

lisafremont
07-06-2005, 09:31 AM
Not stiff enough, IMO. I don't understand why it isn't LIFE for child molesters! That's it! Just lock 'em up for life and throw away the key!

Megan's law, GPS, registration--- Forget them all. Just lock them up.

lady-eowyn
07-06-2005, 09:45 AM
Not stiff enough, IMO. I don't understand why it isn't LIFE for child molesters! That's it! Just lock 'em up for life and throw away the key!

Megan's law, GPS, registration--- Forget them all. Just lock them up.
I agree! In fact I think people tried to tell Mark Lunsford not to rush with getting that law passed, that they needed to be stiffer. However, I do believe that the Lunsford act is amendable and the national one that was proposed by Ginny Browne-Waite would also be amendable. Unfortunately it is tough to get lawmakers to agree to such extreme measures that we want.

kk's mom
07-06-2005, 09:46 AM
Not stiff enough, IMO. I don't understand why it isn't LIFE for child molesters! That's it! Just lock 'em up for life and throw away the key!

Megan's law, GPS, registration--- Forget them all. Just lock them up.

I believe "once an offender, always an offender". This will never happen, but I wish it were that the 1st time someone molests a child, that they are done. They go to prison for the rest of their lives. No more chances. These f**ing perverts have more rights than their victims ever had or ever will.

The judge that let Duncan go with $15,000 bond should be shot. He never even requested Duncan's background info to see if he had any other bad acts against children. Just let him go on $15,000 bond.

They can strap a monitor to Martha Stewart and watch her every fricking move (even know when she goes out to dinner when she's not supposed and make a big freaking deal about it), but we can't monitor these pieces of filth that bring harm to our children.

I just don't understand it and never will. Something needs to be done. Not to change the subject, but I think you'll understand what I'm getting to. During the Terri Schiavo ordeal, President Bush was woken up in the early a.m. hours to sign an emergency bill in order to determine what to do when she was alive. I say that this is a situation that requires the same type of attention.

The Federal Government needs to step in now and do something about this. Do something about it now.

LadyLuck
07-06-2005, 09:49 AM
It just does not make any sense. Lock Martha up , let Michael go-- you get in trouble if the case involves money, and easy on the ones that involve children. :waitasec: :waitasec:

alexia
07-06-2005, 04:12 PM
gawd, yes, Jessica Lunsford!!! my apology for the wrong name!
there is a local bar by me where she used to sing karaoke and they are raising money to get the bill passed.
I'm wondering if this indicates it needs some backers... and are we willing to help? what needs to be done???

how do we change the laws?????

lady-eowyn
07-06-2005, 04:20 PM
gawd, yes, Jessica Lunsford!!! my apology for the wrong name!
there is a local bar by me where she used to sing karaoke and they are raising money to get the bill passed.
I'm wondering if this indicates it needs some backers... and are we willing to help? what needs to be done???

how do we change the laws?????
Are you talking about a place Jessica use to sing Karaoke?? Or someone else?

Linda7NJ
07-06-2005, 04:42 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8485031/

Nothing is going to change, these proposed acts are like trying to stick a band-aid on an oil gusher.

They knew exactly what he was, he racked up a long history before he was 17 years old. This is often the case. Society doesn't want to even think about "children" as serial sexual predators. There are institutions full of them. They do their max 2 yr stint of "therapy" and released......probably right into your own neighborhood.

They can be indentified younger and younger these days. The rub is "professionals" are very reluctant to go on the record and state the child isn't capable of rehabiliation. That would mean losing state funding.

alexia
07-06-2005, 06:54 PM
Are you talking about a place Jessica use to sing Karaoke?? Or someone else?

Jessica did karakoe at a little local place. it's a biker family restaurant place. she was from NC and moved to Florida before the incident.
but... they restaurant has a big sign out front encouraging support for the bill.

PrayersForMaura
07-07-2005, 06:05 PM
I posted this on another thread but wanted to post it here, too.

I just found out from a friend today whose friend is a victim's advocate and writes books on these types of cases ... the perpetrators of these sexual crimes are given a lesser sentence in some states if they are RELATED to the child they molest ... I guess as if they are property of the family!!
How ridiculous are those laws????

Our country has a judicial system that sets a term of so many years to child molestors and pedophiles ... and when they serve their time, they are free to go under the court of the law and the sentencing they received.

In my opinion, the terms needs to be stricter!!
Not 5 years for a molestation or a rape... those crimes are just as evil as murder. Those crimes are violations of people's rights to not be touched or handled... and as someone wrote on another thread, it is murder -- it murders you inside. It's like a part of you dies but you survive and have to remember the horror.

I'm so disgusted right now! :mad:

CaliKid
07-07-2005, 08:23 PM
No, a perp needs a 50 year or more sentence for molesting a child, preferably life w/o parole. But we aren't going to see that. Too many bleeding hearts who believe a perp can be rehabilitated.