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BobF
07-08-2005, 12:23 AM
Am I way off or do these two look like they could be the same person?

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/Walkthisway.jpg
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2014/1058/1600/WacksmanRichard.jpg

IdahoMom
07-08-2005, 12:38 AM
Bob-

All I see are two boxes with little red Xs. Sorry.

CaliKid
07-08-2005, 12:51 AM
BobF, try using links with the original pictures.

BobF
07-08-2005, 12:56 AM
I think the first site is down again, exceeded bandwidth. :banghead:

Navigate to the second page on this website when its back up:

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/

And the second photo was a photo of the doctor friend.

Here is a link to the doctor photo which you probably already have:

http://lostinlimaohio.blogspot.com/

BillyGoatGruff
07-08-2005, 01:46 AM
I think the first site is down again, exceeded bandwidth. :banghead:

Navigate to the second page on this website when its back up:

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/

And the second photo was a photo of the doctor friend.

Here is a link to the doctor photo which you probably already have:

http://lostinlimaohio.blogspot.com/
For one brief moment I saw a page called BORN AGAIN PANDA CONSPIRACYwith pictures of cartoon pandas drawn like human nymphets, some Japanese anime lifted from FULL METAL ALCHEMIST featuring an androgynous kid with blonde hair wearing a jersey with the number 5 on it and a email address for someone called Sasha.
It also said something about being a journal for his experiences with a religious cult in Russia.
It's distrubng that so many pedos are into anime.

lostinlimaohio
07-08-2005, 02:29 AM
I think the first site is down again, exceeded bandwidth. :banghead:

Navigate to the second page on this website when its back up:

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/

And the second photo was a photo of the doctor friend.

Here is a link to the doctor photo which you probably already have:

http://lostinlimaohio.blogspot.com/
Bob... I can't get the site *the first one, have the second already)... but I do know that another site duncan refered to as a friend of his has a panda thing going on, and its sasha something.... http://www.pandaconspiracy.com/blogs.html#1106642556 blog there ... always signed off as 'i am your sasha"

BobF
07-08-2005, 01:25 PM
For one brief moment I saw a page called BORN AGAIN PANDA CONSPIRACYwith pictures of cartoon pandas drawn like human nymphets, some Japanese anime lifted from FULL METAL ALCHEMIST featuring an androgynous kid with blonde hair wearing a jersey with the number 5 on it and a email address for someone called Sasha.
It also said something about being a journal for his experiences with a religious cult in Russia.
It's distrubng that so many pedos are into anime.
Ya, the photo I was wanting everyone to see was on the second page. I thought the guy looked like that doctor, possible when he was younger. I am probably way off, and that is why I wanted some feedback from everyone here. Maybe if I can get to is, I will download that photo and then host it on one of my websites.

ISPTRAX
07-08-2005, 01:37 PM
Bob, does that dog in your signature have no front legs? Is it yours??

BobF
07-08-2005, 01:52 PM
Bob, does that dog in your signature have no front legs? Is it yours??
Hmm, you were able to get to that photo?:waitasec: Thats not my sig, those were the photos I wanted to compare..

BobF
07-09-2005, 01:11 AM
Ok,

I have the photo downloaded and I think this guy is the same guy as the Doctor friend and that the pandaconspiracy website is this doctors or his kids website. I have had a few people look at the photos side by side and it looks like the same guy with a mustach, no glasses, and possible younger. Is it possible to upload photos here? Anyone want to host it with the doctor one right next to it? Let me host it on my website, be back in a minute with a link...

Bob

karmarama
07-09-2005, 01:45 AM
Hello everyone :)

When you see a red x you can right click it, click properties, highlight, then copy and paste the address into your search bar. The photo will be there and when you come back to the board it will show up. This works most of the time :)

BobF
07-09-2005, 01:53 AM
ok, I am going out on a limb here. I feel these two photos look like the same person, but just taken at different times. Here is the link:


http://www.youronlinefitness.com/duncan.htm

Floh
07-09-2005, 04:17 AM
ok, I am going out on a limb here. I feel these two photos look like the same person, but just taken at different times. Here is the link:


http://www.youronlinefitness.com/duncan.htm


Having looked closely at them, side by side (thank you), i would agree.

same eyes, nose and mouth, IMO.

if he didn't have that head covering and the photo with the head covering was facing the camera directly as the other one is, it would be easier. but i think you're right, for what it's worth.

good spot.

Mirielle
07-09-2005, 04:44 AM
There is a similarity. I think the reason the Panda guy looks younger is that he has almost a Beatles haircut....and a (fake?) mustache.

Whimsigal
07-09-2005, 09:15 AM
I think they are different people. The noses are different, head shapes are different. they just don't look alike to me.

dragonfly
07-09-2005, 09:41 AM
I AGREE WITH FLOH...
SAME NOSE
SAME EYES
SAME MOUTH
AND FACE SHAPE LOOKS SIMILIAR ..TO ME
I would look into it further for sure!!

Linda7NJ
07-09-2005, 10:54 AM
I think they are different people. The noses are different, head shapes are different. they just don't look alike to me.
I agree, noses are different and bone structure. Close, but no cigar. IMO

BobF
07-09-2005, 12:57 PM
I think the noses look different because of the different angle of the photographs. When I look at the eyes, wrinke lines on the face, lips, head shape, etc, it looks like the same guy to me. Anyone have any other photos of this doctor in color?

Floh
07-09-2005, 01:11 PM
I think the noses look different because of the different angle of the photographs. When I look at the eyes, wrinke lines on the face, lips, head shape, etc, it looks like the same guy to me. Anyone have any other photos of this doctor in color?

I see what you see. i believe the nose is the same, just a different angle. no, i don't have any other pics, but i wouldn't be surprised if at some time in the future there will be more pix of this dr appearing in the news as his connection to Duncan becomes more obvious, i believe.

Vet4Bush
07-09-2005, 01:17 PM
Same guy to me

Sofia
07-09-2005, 01:38 PM
This is the cached info from the smackington site. http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=%22Born+Again+Panda+Conspiracy%22&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.geocities.com/thesmackington&w=%22born+again+panda+conspiracy%22&d=FD8E3E7EAD&icp=1&.intl=us


This Site will be about my experiences with a religious cult in Russia,
baptism in the Circle of Ruth, abductions in the State Park known as Vaughn Fair

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/smallandy.jpg http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/smallandy2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/smallandy3.jpg http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/andy44.jpg http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington/andy55.jpg

My Favorite Links:

PandaConspiracy.com (http://www.pandaconspiracy.com/)
Spiderman Collector (http://www.spidermancollector.com/)

My Info:

Name:
Sasha

Email:

sasha@pandaconspiracy.com (sasha@pandaconspiracy.com)

Sofia
07-09-2005, 01:43 PM
This entry on the Panda blog sounds a lot like a molester just after he's molested.

http://66.218.71.225/search/cache?p=%22Born+Again+Panda+Conspiracy%22&sm=Yahoo%21+Search&toggle=1&ei=UTF-8&u=www.pandaconspiracy.com/blogs.html&w=%22born+again+panda+conspiracy%22&d=AD69881CC6&icp=1&.intl=us



Hello,
well, after my last dream I have stopped dreaming, this is very strange because I am a notorious dreamer. My dreams are prolific, but now nothing. So how am I to know what I am supposed to do? I went to church but I dont usually have visions or religious experiences there. Everybody else does, just not me. I do not feel different, I do not act differently, Im sorry to say. The last dream was the real deal, that much I know, I was in a place like the Circle of Ruth, I could hear the same vibrations, a kind of music that makes you euphoric, only better. I can still smell the colors. I was under the influence of that dream for a week, I didnt care about anything else, I just wanted to go back there, I wanted to float again. But no! I will wait forever, though the dream may kill me, yet will I trust in it. Im still a little high, I am your Sasha

BobF
07-09-2005, 02:03 PM
ok, I created two animations, not near as good as I would have liked them to come out because my wife is nagging me to leave!!! So, I did the best I could, but when I get some I will take more time trying to get them perfect. To me, everything lines up perfect, just different angles so slight differences, but the chin, eyes, nose, etc, all line up. Anyway, I will make better ones when I get home.

http://www.youronlinefitness.com/duncan.htm

Floh
07-09-2005, 02:19 PM
ok, I created two animations, not near as good as I would have liked them to come out because my wife is nagging me to leave!!! So, I did the best I could, but when I get some I will take more time trying to get them perfect. To me, everything lines up perfect, just different angles so slight differences, but the chin, eyes, nose, etc, all line up. Anyway, I will make better ones when I get home.

http://www.youronlinefitness.com/duncan.htm

Same guy.

BillyGoatGruff
07-09-2005, 02:28 PM
Ok,

I have the photo downloaded and I think this guy is the same guy as the Doctor friend and that the pandaconspiracy website is this doctors or his kids website. I have had a few people look at the photos side by side and it looks like the same guy with a mustach, no glasses, and possible younger. Is it possible to upload photos here? Anyone want to host it with the doctor one right next to it? Let me host it on my website, be back in a minute with a link...

Bob
I've accessed the Panda Conspiracy blog recently and get the impression that it's someone pretending to be 14 years old, but is actually considerably older. And the sentence structure used is not in the least like someone from Russia. This person is extremely fluent in English. And for someone over there to have the $$$ to buy that kind of musical equipment, they'd have to be SERIOUSLY rich. It just doesn't add up.

BillyGoatGruff
07-09-2005, 02:33 PM
ok, I created two animations, not near as good as I would have liked them to come out because my wife is nagging me to leave!!! So, I did the best I could, but when I get some I will take more time trying to get them perfect. To me, everything lines up perfect, just different angles so slight differences, but the chin, eyes, nose, etc, all line up. Anyway, I will make better ones when I get home.

http://www.youronlinefitness.com/duncan.htm
Maybe it's his son?
The doctor is in his 50s. This guy looks too young. Then again, it may be an old photo, and pedos are often famous for looking boyish.
He sure as hell doesn't look to be 14, which is the only age I could find anyone claiming to be on the blog.

BobF
07-09-2005, 02:54 PM
I am almost certain if I had two photos of the same angle, they would be a dead match. The size of the head matches perfect, the chin matches, as do the eyes (same distance apart and shape, size), the cheeks and wrinkle lines match up. Pay special attention to the cheek lines, chin, an overall shape of the head. I think the photos were taken years apart. On that site, there was a photo of a young boy about 15 or so, but it has since been deleted.

I agree with you, this person is rich to have the money to buy all that musical equipment. I believe they had a Marshall stack and head, not to mention all the guitars.

On that Panda blog, when I first visited the blog, Joe was mentioned in one of the blog entries, but that entry was deleted. I was thinking that blog was the docs kids blog, but its a very strange blog indeed. I took the time to read all the entries and it seems the person is either playing a joke or is delusional.

Back to the photos, I feel these two people are the same and it would make sense since Ducan and the Doctor were friends. Anyway, thats my thoughts on the topic.

Sofia
07-09-2005, 03:22 PM
I am almost certain if I had two photos of the same angle, they would be a dead match. The size of the head matches perfect, the chin matches, as do the eyes (same distance apart and shape, size), the cheeks and wrinkle lines match up. Pay special attention to the cheek lines, chin, an overall shape of the head. I think the photos were taken years apart. On that site, there was a photo of a young boy about 15 or so, but it has since been deleted.

I agree with you, this person is rich to have the money to buy all that musical equipment. I believe they had a Marshall stack and head, not to mention all the guitars.

On that Panda blog, when I first visited the blog, Joe was mentioned in one of the blog entries, but that entry was deleted. I was thinking that blog was the docs kids blog, but its a very strange blog indeed. I took the time to read all the entries and it seems the person is either playing a joke or is delusional.
I think that it's a pedo's blog, written in a way that his friends would understand but everyone else might go 'huh?' I think the photos look alike, and even "smackington" sounds a bit like "wacksman". Wack, smack. When you see the whole photo, the guy looks like he's in his late forties.

Sofia
07-09-2005, 03:32 PM
Did you guys see that the smackington site has a link to spidermancollector.com? Isn't there a spidey mentioned on JED's message board or blog?

BobF
07-09-2005, 04:19 PM
Ya, there is a spiddy mentioned on Geocaching and a spiddy signed his jetgazette guest book.

jc9876
07-09-2005, 04:59 PM
Okay, guys..I'm new here, so please be gentle. I am very disturbed about the "Orphan Cry" website and the pictures of the 2 fellas with the kids. Did you notice some hand gestures being used when the guys were being photographed with their arms around the kids. I'm going to link an example.

http://www.orphancry.org/images/Scan003.jpg

Look at his right hand, the pointer and middle finger crossed.

Now look at the Bornagainpanda page and the anime picture almost all the way down with the human boys. Especially the black haired anime kid on the right.

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington

Same hand gesture? What does it mean?

I have some other observations, but I'd like to know about that first.

caryatid
07-09-2005, 05:10 PM
Okay, guys..I'm new here, so please be gentle. I am very disturbed about the "Orphan Cry" website and the pictures of the 2 fellas with the kids. Did you notice some hand gestures being used when the guys were being photographed with their arms around the kids. I'm going to link an example.

http://www.orphancry.org/images/Scan003.jpg

Look at his right hand, the pointer and middle finger crossed.

Now look at the Bornagainpanda page and the anime picture almost all the way down with the human boys. Especially the black haired anime kid on the right.

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington

Same hand gesture? What does it mean?

I have some other observations, but I'd like to know about that first.Your link isn't working to the orphans' site, and the smackington link says the site is down. I am into the Orphan site, however, and, if you can tell me which group of pics to look at, I can find it faster.

eta: Never mind. I have found it. I'm not sure the fingers are crossed--may be the forefinger is extended, and just looks crossed due to the camera angle.

Floh
07-09-2005, 05:16 PM
Your link isn't working to the orphans' site, and the smackington link says the site is down. I am into the Orphan site, however, and, if you can tell me which group of pics to look at, I can find it faster.

eta: Never mind. I have found it.


It's not long since that link was posted here which confirms for me there are 'watchers' of this site cleaning things up on the net to avoid detection.

BobF
07-09-2005, 05:23 PM
I agree, someone needs to look into that orphan site, it looks like a pedophiles heaven. I hope I am wrong, but its disturbing to say the least.

caryatid
07-09-2005, 05:24 PM
It's not long since that link was posted here which confirms for me there are 'watchers' of this site cleaning things up on the net to avoid detection.
Geocitis says it's due to exceeding its data transfer allotment, whatever that means. Maybe too many hits all at once?

Floh
07-09-2005, 05:31 PM
Geocitis says it's due to exceeding its data transfer allotment, whatever that means. Maybe too many hits all at once?

Too many hits just from little ol' us? :)

lostinlimaohio
07-09-2005, 06:13 PM
Didn't Duncan mention a Dave that he went scuba diving with? Or have I just been reading too many stories in the last few hours? (have a stack of stories a foot high to go through on my desk... so it coul djust be me)

jc9876
07-09-2005, 07:21 PM
You know, I agree about the camera angle. It just bothered me that these guys seemed to be placing their hands in odd positions when "embracing" those orphans.

The anime that is on the panda site (the 2 boys) is called *edited to change spelling to Hikaru no go. It's about an ancient game played in Japan. When I look it up under fan fiction (where fans make up stories to explain parts that are left out) there is a lot of boy on boy stuff going on.

It just caught my attention since it seems to be there for a reason. I'll keep searching!

Sofia
07-09-2005, 07:25 PM
Okay, guys..I'm new here, so please be gentle. I am very disturbed about the "Orphan Cry" website and the pictures of the 2 fellas with the kids. Did you notice some hand gestures being used when the guys were being photographed with their arms around the kids. I'm going to link an example.

http://www.orphancry.org/images/Scan003.jpg

Look at his right hand, the pointer and middle finger crossed.

Now look at the Bornagainpanda page and the anime picture almost all the way down with the human boys. Especially the black haired anime kid on the right.

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington

Same hand gesture? What does it mean?

I have some other observations, but I'd like to know about that first.
The anime characters are from Knights of Rayearth. Here is a page with photos, notice the ones of
Hikaru Shidou (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/hikaru.html)

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/nicebigfuutrans.jpg

Fuu Hououji (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/fuu.html)

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/nicebigtransumi.jpg

Umi Ryuuzaki (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/umi.html)

These characters are 14 year old schoolgirls.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/

caryatid
07-09-2005, 08:07 PM
The anime characters are from Knights of Rayearth. Here is a page with photos, notice the ones of
Hikaru Shidou (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/hikaru.html)

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/nicebigfuutrans.jpg

Fuu Hououji (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/fuu.html)

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/nicebigtransumi.jpg

Umi Ryuuzaki (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/umi.html)

These characters are 14 year old schoolgirls.
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Hollow/7539/
They all say "site not available."

jc9876
07-09-2005, 08:20 PM
Actually, the one I was referring to is.....

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=912

Hikaru no go

That's the set of 2 boys that are holding stones on the Panda website

Vet4Bush
07-09-2005, 09:38 PM
Print out side by side pics on your printer.

Draw glasses on the one with no glasses.

Draw bangs on the one with glasses.

They are the same guy.

BobF
07-09-2005, 09:41 PM
I have to agree VET, and the pandaconspiracy website must be either this doctors or one of his kids website. It would explain all the money this person seems to have.

Vet4Bush
07-09-2005, 09:44 PM
Better yet, superimpose one pic over the other, I'll bet they are the same. I don't have the photo tools to do that but i'll bet someone does.

BobF
07-09-2005, 09:48 PM
If I had two at the same angle, I could superimpose em without a problem and I bet they would be a dead match. In the animations I created, you can see that many points line up eventhough the shots were taken at completely different angles. I am going to have to see if I can come up with more photos of this doctor.

jc9876
07-09-2005, 10:24 PM
Hey guys..I'm hung up on this PandaConspiracy.com website and its connection to the good Doc.

I looked up the domain and here is what I found at BetterWhois.com for pandaconspiracy.com

Domainname:pandaconspiracy.com

Administrative Contact:Schmidt, Jerry Smackington@aol.com
9616 Mandell Rd
Perrysburg, OH 43551
419-666-3485




A reverse lookup on the telephone number shows a Jerry Schmitt so the name seems genuine. But what about the Smackington....where have I seen that before?

BobF
07-09-2005, 10:43 PM
smackington:


http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington

BobF
07-09-2005, 11:08 PM
Does anyone have AOL to check out the profile for Smackington (Smackington@a) ?

Tom'sGirl
07-09-2005, 11:12 PM
Does anyone have AOL to check out the profile for Smackington (Smackington@a) ?
Sorry Bob, not me for one........

Vet4Bush
07-09-2005, 11:36 PM
He didnt have one listed.

BobF
07-09-2005, 11:44 PM
Bummer, thanks.

BobF
07-10-2005, 01:44 AM
I deleted this post due to personal info being posted regarding Duncan's mother.





WHY DID SOMEONE DELETE HER NAME? SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO SEARCH HER NAME?

close_enough
07-10-2005, 02:02 AM
wow, who's going to call Duncan's mama???..huh?

not me....

BobF
07-10-2005, 02:54 AM
haha, ya, thats what I was thinking lol, any takers?

Sofia
07-10-2005, 04:53 AM
The more I search on these friends, the worse it gets. Look at the entries on this site (google cache), one done by "Sasha"

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:H4MplhDTzeIJ:books.dreambook.com/niklasfanchat/main.html+%22PANDACONSPIRACY.COM%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a

KrazyKollector
07-10-2005, 05:07 AM
On the Wednesday, April 21, 2004 blog of Vaughn, Sergi or whoever, is a picture that looks a bit like the dude in the panda hat. I don't think they made ski caps that looked like panda heads 30+ yrs ago....

http://www.pandaconspiracy.com/blogs.html#1085821445

Scroll down to April 21, 2004. It's a weird picture...

As for the orphancry pictures, here is what bothers me. If you look at all the pictures, many have kids who are being a bit silly or smiling. Not all, but some. But, almost every kid in the pictures with "Dave" and the other guy, look very somber and a few look distressed. The pictures gave me shivers and my hinkey meter went off big time.

mysteriew
07-10-2005, 05:23 AM
I checked Jerry Schmidt on Ohio sex offender site and got nothing. I will be glad when they get the national database set up though.
Also checked Smackington and also got nothing.

mysteriew
07-10-2005, 05:45 AM
Perrysburg, Ohio appears to be a suburub of Toledo Ohio. The Perrysburg newpaper doesn't offer an archive to nonscription readers. Found this in a toledo paper though and thought it was interesting.

I ran a serch for jerry schmit in the toledo blade archives and this came up in ther results. His name must be given farther down in the article:

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=TB&p_theme=tb&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&s_dispstring=allfields(jerry%20schmidt)&p_field_advanced-0=&p_text_advanced-0=("jerry%20schmidt")&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no
Article 3 of 3, Article ID: 9812210029
Published on December 21, 1998, Blade, The (Toledo, OH)

HAD TO ASK

KOREAN Association of Greater Toledo members gathered for its 29th annual Christmas Dinner at the Ramada Inn on Saturday evening. The menu reflected the club's bicultural tradition: sirloin, seafood newburg, and kimchee, the spicy Korean pickled cabbage.

The Kim Kwang Mi band of Detroit played for listening and dancing, and a brief program followed dinner.

Special honorees were Yoon Myung Yim, and his wife, Ki, who have resided in Toledo since 1976 but are returning to the Republic

Complete Article, 147 words ($2.95).

KrazyKollector
07-10-2005, 05:50 AM
I am so not caught up on this board so forgive me but have any of you guys READ the Niklas and friends "cartoons"? (from one of the above links)
I really have lived in a cave for many years. They make it "sound" like it's about kids dealing with their sexuality but it's nothing more than porn and would appeal to molesters.

Again, sorry if this has been discussed ad nauseum but I was gone a couple of days.

This just makes me want to :banghead: :sick: :sick: :sick: :sick: :banghead:

jc9876
07-10-2005, 10:26 AM
I found a "Jerry Schmidt" in Ohio that is a metal sculptor, but his site, while active on 7-7-05 is now down. He has a son who was 9 years old in 2003.

Interesting...

golfmom
07-10-2005, 10:46 AM
Okay, guys..I'm new here, so please be gentle. I am very disturbed about the "Orphan Cry" website and the pictures of the 2 fellas with the kids. Did you notice some hand gestures being used when the guys were being photographed with their arms around the kids. I'm going to link an example.

http://www.orphancry.org/images/Scan003.jpg

Look at his right hand, the pointer and middle finger crossed.

Now look at the Bornagainpanda page and the anime picture almost all the way down with the human boys. Especially the black haired anime kid on the right.

http://www.geocities.com/thesmackington

Same hand gesture? What does it mean?

I have some other observations, but I'd like to know about that first.

I think you're on to something here with the hand signs and I'd be very interested in hearing your other observations.

mysteriew
07-10-2005, 11:04 AM
The more I search on these friends, the worse it gets. Look at the entries on this site (google cache), one done by "Sasha"

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:H4MplhDTzeIJ:books.dreambook.com/niklasfanchat/main.html+%22PANDACONSPIRACY.COM%22&hl=en&client=firefox-a


Check out this one:eek::furious::behindbar:

Name (required): Simon
Comments (required): The last comic not fitting the line? Naah... why wouldn't it? Jason's comment about "shorter hair = more naked skin to peek at" could be surprising to actually hear, but I assure you it is plausible.

I'll give you a more radical example. How would you react to a comic with the following exchange of lines between Niklas and Jason (imagine that Jason is stroking Niklas's leg):

N: Do I have a smooth skin?
J: Yeah!
N: Smooth like silk?
J (a bit embarassed, since he wasn't expecting it): Hehe, yeah!
And then Jason kisses Niklas's leg and says: "Better than silk!"

Would you be shocked to see a kid defining his skin "smooth like silk" to tease a friend of his?
Well guess what, you shouldn't. That exchange of lines really happened. Last week, with me instead of Jason, and the little brother of a friend of mine instead of Niklas. He knows he looks good, he knows I enjoy staying close to him and cuddle him, and he likes teasing me that way. I was surprised to hear that myself, but now I can really say I shouldn't have. It's normal! Kids speak the truth and do what they feel it's good to them, without inhibitions!
Sunday, May 22nd 2005 - 07:23:42 PM

Shazzie
07-10-2005, 01:44 PM
Having looked closely at them, side by side (thank you), i would agree.

same eyes, nose and mouth, IMO.

if he didn't have that head covering and the photo with the head covering was facing the camera directly as the other one is, it would be easier. but i think you're right, for what it's worth.

good spot.
I agree!

Shazzie
07-10-2005, 02:26 PM
Hmm, you were able to get to that photo?:waitasec: Thats not my sig, those were the photos I wanted to compare..
Sometimes it shows up, sometimes it doesn't. That's geocities for you, lol!

Thanks for providing that composite--it makes it a lot easier to see the similarities.

BillyGoatGruff
07-10-2005, 03:37 PM
The more I search on these friends, the worse it gets. Look at the entries on this site (google cache), one done by "Sasha"

http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:H4MplhDTzeIJ:books.dreambook.com/niklasfanchat/main.html+%22PANDACONSPIRACY.COM%22&hl=en&client=firefox-aI think I've figured it out.At least in part.
It's a flyjar. A trap.
These are adult pedos posing as teenagers on a blog and posting anime-based cartoons & stories, fan fic, whatever, about young teen gays "coming out", but with the intent of garnering info & emails & actual physical locations from kids emailing them to talk about their being gay so they can arrange rendezvouses.
Imagine these 13/14/15 year olds agreeing to meet an online fellow "gay teen" only to find himself face-to-face with a 45 year old man!:sick:
And NO ONE running this page is in frigging Russia. I lived in a predominantly Ukranian neighborhood in NYC for 3 years.The English on display here is too good and the colloquialisms too precise. Russians speaking English tend to be like Germans. They have a lot of dangling participles. it's simply the difference in their syntax and ours.

Tom'sGirl
07-10-2005, 03:38 PM
I deleted this post due to personal info being posted regarding Duncan's mother.





WHY DID SOMEONE DELETE HER NAME? SOMEONE MIGHT HAVE WANTED TO SEARCH HER NAME?
I found her also, including address. She was born in 1939

jc9876
07-10-2005, 04:02 PM
Well, the Panda guy is a Jerry (to whom JED was referring to in his own blog as being interested in making a documentary about him).

There's code in the PandaConspiracy website, there's code in Sasha's website, and I believe there's code in the photos posted on the Orphan Cry website.

The anime posted on Sasha's blog Hikaru No Go has a gay teens following. The 2 main characters are teen boys that are full of angst with one another. So if a male anime fan that's familiar with the storyline with that mange/anime saw those pictures posted, he may think of it as a sign. And the freakin panda hat guy. Gross!

I've done a whois on the pandaconspiracy site and the address is associated with another person that I'm looking into right now in addition to "jerry".

Also, the Orphan Cry website is of particluar interest to me in decoding what it's all about and why the 3 "affiliates" are seeming a bit iffy. More to come, if I find anything out.

But just to clarify, IMO there is a reason that JED steered us to the pandaconspiracy blog. And he mentions (forgive me if I misquote) about Jerry hearing something soon. They're connected somehow.

Just my 2Cents

BillyGoatGruff
07-10-2005, 04:07 PM
Well, the Panda guy is a Jerry (to whom JED was referring to in his own blog as being interested in making a documentary about him).

There's code in the PandaConspiracy website, there's code in Sasha's website, and I believe there's code in the photos posted on the Orphan Cry website.

The anime posted on Sasha's blog Hikaru No Go has a gay teens following. The 2 main characters are teen boys that are full of angst with one another. So if a male anime fan that's familiar with the storyline with that mange/anime saw those pictures posted, he may think of it as a sign. And the freakin panda hat guy. Gross!

I've done a whois on the pandaconspiracy site and the address is associated with another person that I'm looking into right now in addition to "jerry".

Also, the Orphan Cry website is of particluar interest to me in decoding what it's all about and why the 3 "affiliates" are seeming a bit iffy. More to come, if I find anything out.

But just to clarify, IMO there is a reason that JED steered us to the pandaconspiracy blog. And he mentions (forgive me if I misquote) about Jerry hearing something soon. They're connected somehow.

Just my 2Cents
Jerry Schmidt is
Jerome G. Schmidt
http://www.daplus.us/ViewPersonProfile.aspx?Partner=&recordid=0YLDJ%2bz8YvdWzVdrzaAlRg%3d%3d

mysteriew
07-10-2005, 04:09 PM
Well, the Panda guy is a Jerry (to whom JED was referring to in his own blog as being interested in making a documentary about him).

There's code in the PandaConspiracy website, there's code in Sasha's website, and I believe there's code in the photos posted on the Orphan Cry website.

The anime posted on Sasha's blog Hikaru No Go has a gay teens following. The 2 main characters are teen boys that are full of angst with one another. So if a male anime fan that's familiar with the storyline with that mange/anime saw those pictures posted, he may think of it as a sign. And the freakin panda hat guy. Gross!

I've done a whois on the pandaconspiracy site and the address is associated with another person that I'm looking into right now in addition to "jerry".

Also, the Orphan Cry website is of particluar interest to me in decoding what it's all about and why the 3 "affiliates" are seeming a bit iffy. More to come, if I find anything out.

But just to clarify, IMO there is a reason that JED steered us to the pandaconspiracy blog. And he mentions (forgive me if I misquote) about Jerry hearing something soon. They're connected somehow.

Just my 2Cents

What do you mean by there is code in the sites?

BillyGoatGruff
07-10-2005, 04:39 PM
Well, the Panda guy is a Jerry (to whom JED was referring to in his own blog as being interested in making a documentary about him).

There's code in the PandaConspiracy website, there's code in Sasha's website, and I believe there's code in the photos posted on the Orphan Cry website.

The anime posted on Sasha's blog Hikaru No Go has a gay teens following. The 2 main characters are teen boys that are full of angst with one another. So if a male anime fan that's familiar with the storyline with that mange/anime saw those pictures posted, he may think of it as a sign. And the freakin panda hat guy. Gross!

I've done a whois on the pandaconspiracy site and the address is associated with another person that I'm looking into right now in addition to "jerry".

Also, the Orphan Cry website is of particluar interest to me in decoding what it's all about and why the 3 "affiliates" are seeming a bit iffy. More to come, if I find anything out.

But just to clarify, IMO there is a reason that JED steered us to the pandaconspiracy blog. And he mentions (forgive me if I misquote) about Jerry hearing something soon. They're connected somehow.

Just my 2Cents
Some of this is slowly starting to gel...
Apparently the term "Panda" has a double meaning.
I've found online references to it being a nickname for "Chubby Asian gay males" or "chubbby hairy gays into anime".
And the pics of "sasha" wearing his panda hat definitely qualify as "chubby", and he seems to really be into anime. So go figure.
"Bears" are usually older gay men, not kids, though. So this keeps getting weirder and nastier.
Andy Panda.
Right.