Shasta Testifying

[Berksleuth]

I had heard that a plea may be entered to spare Shasta from testifying. I would not be too quick to think that testifying would be too awful for Shasta. I used to, but so far, she is "doing her part" like a trooper to give this man what he deserves. She does not have to sit through the entire trial, but she may very well benefit from having "her day in court". I dare the defense attorney to cross examine her! The jury will not tolerate seeing this little girl suffer any longer.

My point is, lets not assume Shasta testifying is going to be a devastating thing. This little girl has more guts and strenght than some are giving her credit for.

[Floh]

I had heard that a plea may be entered to spare Shasta from testifying. I would not be too quick to think that testifying would be too awful for Shasta. I used to, but so far, she is "doing her part" like a trooper to give this man what he deserves. She does not have to sit through the entire trial, but she may very well benefit from having "her day in court". I dare the defense attorney to cross examine her! The jury will not tolerate seeing this little girl suffer any longer.

My point is, lets not assume Shasta testifying is going to be a devastating thing. This little girl has more guts and strenght than some are giving her credit for.

I have thought for a while now that Shasta would want to testify. altho i do understand bottom line she is a little girl.

my feeling is, if the experts agree -- altho who is an expert -- i believe she WANTS TO GET THIS MANIAC AND GOOD, and it may be closure for her to understand people listened to her and it resulted in . . . DP? who knows?

i would hope this person is put to death just because of what he did to Shasta. but i would think Shasta would like to see him wiped if only because of what he did to her and her two brothers and mostly, because of him taking her mother away from her and depriving her of her mother for the years when she would naturaly have a mother to go through all the essential things a girl/woman wants her mother around for the most important times of a woman's life.

it cuts me to the quick, for instance, this child won't have her mother around to talk her through adolescence and possibly pregnancy and take joy in seeing her mother play with a grandchild.

i hold on to the fact she has a wonderful and soulful father.

and i do think Shasta, even at this age, wants to see justice work and wants to be a key part of it all -- despite her not being capable of fully understanding proceedings.

JMO.

[Casshew]

Hopefully they will allow a video testimony, so she does not have to be in the same room with him.

[Sassygerl]

Hopefully they will allow a video testimony, so she does not have to be in the same room with him.

Amen!!!!

[cynder]

I posted this on another thread here - but it "belongs" here - so....

Perhaps Shasta WANTS to testify? She has been so strong, so wise, so mature that I can't help but think that maybe she wants- even needs - to stand in court and have a part in making sure this slug gets a needle in his arm. She was brave enough to tell LE what he did, down to the type of hammer he used - maybe what kept her going was the idea that one day she would be able to use that information against him.
Shasta is a very special little girl - and she has a special purpose in this world - she is extraordinary. This is HER family and she will forever be their legacy, their face to the world. She carries all of their hopes and dreams in her heart. To testify, to be their advocate, their voice in the courtroom may be less traumatic than letting it never have an "end" at least in her mind. To see him get his "due" may be the closure SHE needs.
I know that Shasta will get the support and help she needs - she is already thriving in the love of her family. If she wants to tell her story, then she should be allowed to. To plea bargain this scum to protect her is fine IF that is what is best for Shasta, but she has certainly proven that this is HER decision to make - if she has earned ANYTHING it would be that. She was mature enough to get thru this ordeal alive and tell the tale - she has the right to make him pay with her words if she wants.....only if she wants, of course.
I look at her sometimes and see a resolve in those eyes, a light that burns steady and strong and BRIGHT, so bright and I keep thinking of the children of the Holocaust, the ones who survived unspeakable horrors - for many of them the inspiration that kept them alive against all odds was to live to tell the world the truth, to be the living witness for those who died. They too had that light, that soul lit from within - like a protective mantle from heaven - armour of an invincible sort. HE is holding her close and she is in HIS care. No matter what she decides HE will be with her.

[Casshew]

Perhaps Shasta WANTS to testify? She has been so strong, so wise, so mature that I can't help but think that maybe she wants- even needs - to stand in court and have a part in making sure this slug gets a needle in his arm.
She is 8 years old ~and I don't know that she is wise, strong and mature ~ I don't think she would even understand what testifying means or how court works... I really don't know enough about this little girl to make any observations at this point. I just hope the people working with her are compassionate & professional and put Shasta health & welfare ahead of everything on their agenda.

[Berksleuth]

She is 8 years old ~and I don't know that she is wise, strong and mature ~ I don't think she would even understand what testifying means or how court works... I really don't know enough about this little girl to make any observations at this point. I just hope the people working with her are compassionate & professional and put Shasta health & welfare ahead of everything on their agenda.
I absolutely agree with your point with the exception that I do believe Shasta is strong! I can't imagine most 8 year olds "holding up" after the horrific 7 weeks that demon put her through. She obviously wants to talk. I am so suprised of the things she has already told LE (the little that we know of).

There are cime victims (myself included) that survive because of their strong will to "fix it", "get even", "rise above it" (you get the general idea). That was my defense mechanism, it may also be hers or may be not. The one thing I do see is that she IS speaking up.

God Bless Her in every way.

[Casshew]

I absolutely agree with your point with the exception that I do believe Shasta is strong!
I think she is incredibly fragile right now, needs protection from all kinds of things from the media, to curious onlookers, her memories etc...

[mysteriew]

From what I have read Shasta was extremely observant and was able to relay a lot of details to LE. She has even told them the brand name of the hammer that Duncan showed to her.
Despite what was happening to her she not only noted details, but she remembered and was able to tell authorities after her rescue. That is pretty remarkable for a little kid.
Still getting up in court and telling the story in front of a bunch of strangers can be very traumatic for an adult. For a little kid, it would be so much worse. If her testimony is needed for the case, I do hope that they arrange it in the way that makes it easiest for Shasta. I think video taping her is the best, and I hope that Idaho courts will allow this.

[Sassygerl]

From what I have read Shasta was extremely observant and was able to relay a lot of details to LE. She has even told them the brand name of the hammer that Duncan showed to her.
Despite what was happening to her she not only noted details, but she remembered and was able to tell authorities after her rescue. That is pretty remarkable for a little kid.
Still getting up in court and telling the story in front of a bunch of strangers can be very traumatic for an adult. For a little kid, it would be so much worse. If her testimony is needed for the case, I do hope that they arrange it in the way that makes it easiest for Shasta. I think video taping her is the best, and I hope that Idaho courts will allow this.

Shasta is one brave and tough little girl. It kills me to see her on the video from the gas station with her arms folded the entire time. I don't know that I would fare as well as she has. The details of this story coming out are just sickening....makes me sad :(

[Miss Daisey]

I absolutely agree with your point with the exception that I do believe Shasta is strong! I can't imagine most 8 year olds "holding up" after the horrific 7 weeks that demon put her through. She obviously wants to talk. I am so suprised of the things she has already told LE (the little that we know of).

There are cime victims (myself included) that survive because of their strong will to "fix it", "get even", "rise above it" (you get the general idea). That was my defense mechanism, it may also be hers or may be not. The one thing I do see is that she IS speaking up.

God Bless Her in every way.
Bless you too, Berksleuth.....for what ever you've endured.

[cynder]

My point is that Shasta should be allowed to make the decision about testifying. Any little girl of 8 who saw what she saw and still could survive 6-7 weeks with a sociopath, with a demon who bragged about killing her family, who killed her brother, who took from her every secure, good and happy thing in her young life, any child that can survive that and NOT be in a catatonic state is far from fragile or weak. This child is deserving of the right to decide if she wants to testify. To deny her that is to deny her control - which is the core of what slimeboy took from her.
She is getting help and support - and those who are in her confidence, who's job it now is to supporther in every way, will know what she needs and what is best for her and she should be respected whichever decision she and they make together. Not every child reacts the same way. Shasta will triumph and she will TAKE her life back - different, but her life, none-the-less. It would not surprise me if Shasta took the ashes of her old life to build a remarkable new one, one that will grow into something miraculous and maybe even "change the world". This is not an ordinary 8 year old and she has been held safe by a very powerful and loving Hand. How many touch the face of God and remain here on earth to tell the story?

[newtv]

I had heard that a plea may be entered to spare Shasta from testifying. I would not be too quick to think that testifying would be too awful for Shasta. I used to, but so far, she is "doing her part" like a trooper to give this man what he deserves. She does not have to sit through the entire trial, but she may very well benefit from having "her day in court". I dare the defense attorney to cross examine her! The jury will not tolerate seeing this little girl suffer any longer.

My point is, lets not assume Shasta testifying is going to be a devastating thing. This little girl has more guts and strenght than some are giving her credit for.
Somehow I think its best if she doesnt have any more exposure to him, tho your point is as valid. Maybe she would feel empowered by being the force that destroys this puke.
The only reason I worry is that court is unpredictable and I would hate for her to be questioned by his lawyer in anyway that confused her as to whether she is being believed.
I think that would be really bad because so far all she has gotten (and will get), is validation and love. I would hate to have her doubting her reality or having this horrific ordeal minimized to her by another adult.
Somehow if they can put him away for good-thats all that matters- he might use her one more time for his own pathetic needs..he might ask to have his life spared for a full confession and guilty plea.

[Show Me]

I had heard that a plea may be entered to spare Shasta from testifying. I would not be too quick to think that testifying would be too awful for Shasta. I used to, but so far, she is "doing her part" like a trooper to give this man what he deserves. She does not have to sit through the entire trial, but she may very well benefit from having "her day in court". I dare the defense attorney to cross examine her! The jury will not tolerate seeing this little girl suffer any longer.

My point is, lets not assume Shasta testifying is going to be a devastating thing. This little girl has more guts and strenght than some are giving her credit for.

Good thread!

I believe Shasta will testify and help put the 'BAD' guy behind bars or death penalty.

I do admire her will and strength for one so young. I think Shasta's dad will be a strong influence on her testifying and putting this monster away.

I am horrified he was let loose. If the dipsh*t doctor had not paid to let the monster free, 4 people would still be alive and dozens of family and relatives not devastated.

[Cowgirl]

:hand: The worst she is ever going to do is testify on closed circuit.

She will never testify in open court. And no one is going to cross examine her. If it helps her to feel empowered by making a statement to put him away, fine. But if she doesn't want to, she won't have to. They have enough evidence ten times over.

We are not that kind of country. There is no one on planet Earth that wants her sitting in front of this sicko.

What would they ask her? Are you sure it was this guy? Are you sure you weren't high, little girl? It just won't happen.

[newtv]

I think it is safe to assume she would be asked and not forced..the rest is opinion as to the impact on her. I dont doubt she is a strong girl and survived hell-I do wonder if its worth it to expose her to a court process if she is getting her safety back.
If she were to say she wanted to testify then that should be respected. Court is unpredictable and she needs to be fully informed before she is allowed to.
If she is prepared she will be know how to handle anyone who tries to invalidate or diminish her reality.
She lived it-she should know best what happened.

[Linda7NJ]

I don't think her testimony will even be necessary for a conviction!

[kuriouskate]

((((((Cynder!!!!))))))~~~That post totally blessed me! Thank you! How did you get so wise anyway? You know this whole thing has upset me so much I've gotten some counseling over it....(and I'm a therapist myself!). I truly believe Shasta will have all the years that locust has stolen restored to her in some big...monumentous incredible ways....some how. We might not see them right away if ever but she will. God is the great recycler...with Him nothing gets wasted...nothing in our pasts...none of our wounds. He can make incredible beautiful art out of Shasta's life and all this horrendous garbage. "Lived to see God's face".....I think Dylan did too and just went to be with Him sooner. I also think God sent His angels to comfort him and possibly to take him home long before Duncan even knew. I thank God. I thank Him He's in control and I thank Him too that people like you post~~Kelly

[kuriouskate]

Looks like perhaps I angered you all. Sorry about that. You sorta did respond even though you didn't. I don't have all the answers but I do seek. And I do know that in the end God is sovereign and He wins. Don't think for a minute I haven't felt the agony and horror in all of this and I continue to...but Duncan and his demons..well they don't win. They just don't. Sorry to offend you. I'll just keep quiet now.

[kuriouskate]

Okay. I'm sorry that whatever you felt you thought you couldn't type for whatever reason. I have lost sleep over this case. It is one of the most tragic I have ever read or thought about. I have had quite a difficult time getting my arms around it...that it could even happen and well......I have sought some peace in it and those are the things coming to me as a believer. I thought this was a fairly safe place to share those thoughts. I thought we all have the common goal of caring for this family. We might not all agree but most of us mean well. I mean well.

[Liz]

Looks like perhaps I angered you all. Sorry about that. You sorta did respond even though you didn't. I don't have all the answers but I do seek. And I do know that in the end God is sovereign and He wins. Don't think for a minute I haven't felt the agony and horror in all of this and I continue to...but Duncan and his demons..well they don't win. They just don't. Sorry to offend you. I'll just keep quiet now.


Kuriouskate, your post didn't offend me. All opinions are supposedly welcome here. Don't worry about it. It's your opinion and you have just as much right to express it, as does anyone else here.

Btw, welcome to websleuths! I hope you future posting experiences, will be more pleasant for you.

I agree with you about Cynder's post. It was one of the most beautifully worded posts I think I've read on websleuths.

Happy posting trails to you, KuriousKate! :)

[kahskye]

I posted this on another thread here - but it "belongs" here - so....


Shasta is a very special little girl - and she has a special purpose in this world - she is extraordinary. This is HER family and she will forever be their legacy, their face to the world. She carries all of their hopes and dreams in her heart. To testify, to be their advocate, their voice in the courtroom may be less traumatic than letting it never have an "end" at least in her mind. To see him get his "due" may be the closure SHE needs.

I agree, that Shasta is a special child and has a special purpose to yet fulfill.
No matter how strong she is, I still hope her testimony can be videotaped. This child has been through enough and needs to get past this and go back to being a child again, if that is possible.

[Tom'sGirl]

No matter how strong she is, I still hope her testimony can be videotaped. This child has been through enough and needs to get past this and go back to being a child again, if that is possible.
I for one totally agree !

[IdahoMom]

Looks like perhaps I angered you all. Sorry about that. You sorta did respond even though you didn't. I don't have all the answers but I do seek. And I do know that in the end God is sovereign and He wins. Don't think for a minute I haven't felt the agony and horror in all of this and I continue to...but Duncan and his demons..well they don't win. They just don't. Sorry to offend you. I'll just keep quiet now.
Your thoughts and perspective are as welcome here as anyone else's. Thanks for sharing!:clap:

[Bobbisangel]

She is 8 years old ~and I don't know that she is wise, strong and mature ~ I don't think she would even understand what testifying means or how court works... I really don't know enough about this little girl to make any observations at this point. I just hope the people working with her are compassionate & professional and put Shasta health & welfare ahead of everything on their agenda.


Steve took Shasta for a interview for therapy yesterday. I'm sure that her therapy will begin right away. There probably won't be a trial for at least a year or so. It seems to take forever to get to the actual trial. If the family is really lucky the pervert will plead guilty and they won't have to go through a trial and Shasta will be spared that ordeal.

You are right Casshew....this little girl is only 8 yrs old. She survived a horrible ordeal for a long time but that doesn't mean that this little thing isn't a mess inside. I think after everything that happened at the house and the rapes Shasta probably just pulled into herself and did what she was told to do. She had to have been terrified of that creep. She is a surviver but she is also still a baby only 8 yrs in this cruel world. She has a lot of stuff to process and work through. I'm glad that Steve got right on the therapy.

[Bobbisangel]

Good thread!

I believe Shasta will testify and help put the 'BAD' guy behind bars or death penalty.

I do admire her will and strength for one so young. I think Shasta's dad will be a strong influence on her testifying and putting this monster away.

I am horrified he was let loose. If the dipsh*t doctor had not paid to let the monster free, 4 people would still be alive and dozens of family and relatives not devastated.


I can't remember which show it was on last night....maybe Nancy G. but it was said that a local business man was the one who put up the bail money...not the doctor. They gave the man's name too. The man said that Duncan told him that the charges were a lie and the man believed him. I was surprised because I had thought it was the doctor too. Sounds like Duncan took a lot of people in...sociopath that he is. I remember now...it was on Bill O'Rielly.

[cynder]

Steve took Shasta for a interview for therapy yesterday. I'm sure that her therapy will begin right away. There probably won't be a trial for at least a year or so. It seems to take forever to get to the actual trial. If the family is really lucky the pervert will plead guilty and they won't have to go through a trial and Shasta will be spared that ordeal.

You are right Casshew....this little girl is only 8 yrs old. She survived a horrible ordeal for a long time but that doesn't mean that this little thing isn't a mess inside. I think after everything that happened at the house and the rapes Shasta probably just pulled into herself and did what she was told to do. She had to have been terrified of that creep. She is a surviver but she is also still a baby only 8 yrs in this cruel world. She has a lot of stuff to process and work through. I'm glad that Steve got right on the therapy.
If I were, say writing this story as a work of fiction I think I would have it that we got REALLY lucky and the slime does not live long enough to get to trial! In MY version, there are some guards who risked losing their jobs for you know, turning their back for a second at JUST the "wrong" time or maybe failing to see the sheet that got rolled into a noose, or maybe even leaving that door open just a second too long so he "escapes".
In my book, those guards would get new, really GOOD paying "jobs" if they got fired for making such a terrible mistake.
I think everyone would really LIKE my fictional (of course) book, maybe even LOVE it.

[Tom'sGirl]

I can't remember which show it was on last night....maybe Nancy G. but it was said that a local business man was the one who put up the bail money...not the doctor. They gave the man's name too. The man said that Duncan told him that the charges were a lie and the man believed him. I was surprised because I had thought it was the doctor too. Sounds like Duncan took a lot of people in...sociopath that he is. I remember now...it was on Bill O'Rielly.
Actually it was both Dr. Wachsman ($6,500) and Joe Crary ($15,000) who financially backed Duncan.

[newtv]

ok-why is the figure 15K when he was only asked to put up 1500.00 (10 percent)..did he really get 15K.

[newtv]

Meanwhile, Shasta's family is trying to make sure the child does not see news coverage of the crimes. Darlene Torres, Shasta's grandmother, said the girl was "devastated" Tuesday morning when she was changing the television channel and spotted a picture of Duncan.

"She saw this guy and said `There's Jet!"' Torres said, referring to a nickname used by Duncan. "It was really disturbing."

I think those who think she wants to testify are misguided..this was straight from the familyon tuesday.
It doesnt sound to me like she is ready to be anywhere near him outside the context of telling her story to loved ones and the police.
Its important to remember she is just a little girl-and likely never wants to see his face again.

[Liz]

ok-why is the figure 15K when he was only asked to put up 1500.00 (10 percent)..did he really get 15K.

Newtv, the amount of his bail was placed at fifteen thousand dollars. He wrote out a check for fifteen thousand dollars.

He paid the full amount that was required by the court --- fifteen thousand dollars.

No bail bondsman was involved.

Now he forfeits the fifteen thousand dollars, which wasn't his money anyway. So, I'm sure he's not too upset about it.

Capiche? :)

[Berksleuth]

"I think those who think she wants to testify are misguided..."

I believe that statement to be a bit harsh. I started this thread to raise the thought that maybe she wants to testify. I did not say nor did I imply that she wasn't fragile. I did not suggest that she be made to be in the same room with him. Til this day, I can't deal with being in the same state as the man who victimized me. I know there are ways of using her testimony without bringing her into a courtroom with him (and the media).

Testifying, is what she is actually doing with LE already. I know the fact that she is talking indicates a lot of strength on her part. I know that many children who are traumatized DO NOT! My recovery required strength of my mind, but all the while my soul was broken to bits. After 35 years, I still haven't put all the pieces back together.

This case has raised some issues with me. I am hurting for this little girl and I have shed many tears. I am more than aware of how fragile she is, but don't deny her what little strength she does have, because she will need for the long road ahead of her.

newtv, this post is not a "counter-attack" toward you. I know you mean well and I have enjoyed reading your posts. This case is so awful: from that judge letting him walk for $1500 to the arrogance of JED thinking he could just take her into Dennys and no would notice .... I am emotionally charged....not misguided.

[dannyodie]

"I think those who think she wants to testify are misguided..."

I believe that statement to be a bit harsh. I started this thread to raise the thought that maybe she wants to testify. I did not say nor did I imply that she wasn't fragile. I did not suggest that she be made to be in the same room with him. Til this day, I can't deal with being in the same state as the man who victimized me. I know there are ways of using her testimony without bringing her into a courtroom with him (and the media).

Testifying, is what she is actually doing with LE already. I know the fact that she is talking indicates a lot of strength on her part. I know that many children who are traumatized DO NOT! My recovery required strength of my mind, but all the while my soul was broken to bits. After 35 years, I still haven't put all the pieces back together.

This case has raised some issues with me. I am hurting for this little girl and I have shed many tears. I am more than aware of how fragile she is, but don't deny her what little strength she does have, because she will need for the long road ahead of her.

newtv, this post is not a "counter-attack" toward you. I know you mean well and I have enjoyed reading your posts. This case is so awful: from that judge letting him walk for $1500 to the arrogance of JED thinking he could just take her into Dennys and no would notice .... I am emotionally charged....not misguided.
just to let you know. since you have been a victim of crime, etc. I will certainly keep you in my prayers, with so many victims of crime in this nation, prayer is the one thing that I feel positive about, it has helped me get through all I have been exposed to in this harsh world we live in. your right that shasta has a long road ahead of her, she seems now to be strong in wanting to testify in the manner she is. I do hope that the lord keeps her under his wing from now on, not only a child but adults as well should never have to be a part of such a harsh crime that this has been. I think that if his blog was located years ago that someone could have seen that this man was going downhill all along, I have read lots of his crap and it does seem that it was going downhill from one post to the next. god bless you for keeping the strength to continue on with your life. tragedys do always seem to never go completly away. the only real life tragedy I ever experienced,was when I was 16 the day my first love was killed before my very eyes in a tragic car accident during summer break from school, my mom and myself was following her and her brother back to her home, they ran a red light ahead of us and was hit on her side by a pick up truck, we stopped to help and to see her laying in that car is an image I will live with the rest of my life, her brother is in a wheel chair for the remainder of his life, it still haunts me to this day to see him that way.

[Shelayne]

kuriouskate~

I see you are a newer member of Websleuths--WELCOME!! (:wavy guy: )

All opinions are welcome here. And I thought yours was very thoughtful. It is how I believe as well, and that is what allows me to even look into this case at all without completely losing it.

Thank you for sharing your heart~~it was all over your posting. I sent you a PM as well. :)

[newtv]

"I think those who think she wants to testify are misguided..."

I believe that statement to be a bit harsh. I started this thread to raise the thought that maybe she wants to testify. I did not say nor did I imply that she wasn't fragile. I did not suggest that she be made to be in the same room with him. Til this day, I can't deal with being in the same state as the man who victimized me. I know there are ways of using her testimony without bringing her into a courtroom with him (and the media).

Testifying, is what she is actually doing with LE already. I know the fact that she is talking indicates a lot of strength on her part. I know that many children who are traumatized DO NOT! My recovery required strength of my mind, but all the while my soul was broken to bits. After 35 years, I still haven't put all the pieces back together.

This case has raised some issues with me. I am hurting for this little girl and I have shed many tears. I am more than aware of how fragile she is, but don't deny her what little strength she does have, because she will need for the long road ahead of her.

newtv, this post is not a "counter-attack" toward you. I know you mean well and I have enjoyed reading your posts. This case is so awful: from that judge letting him walk for $1500 to the arrogance of JED thinking he could just take her into Dennys and no would notice .... I am emotionally charged....not misguided.
I had no intention to be harsh-I just think we are misguided to think she is "super human"..I include myself as I was swayed that way for a while by the projections we have assigned her..I think its important to remember she is just a human-and she is described as being devastated by seeing his image.
I think her family know her best-they see her every day.
I am just being careful not to create a mythology around her that she is somehow expected to live up to.
It's one thing to talk in the safety of ones own space..quite another to face a murderer. (when u are a little girl still).

[Cowgirl]

ok-why is the figure 15K when he was only asked to put up 1500.00 (10 percent)..did he really get 15K.I can understand why you think it is the lower figure. Even Bill O'Reilly keeps saying that. But he did not get a bondsman. He wrote a personal check for $15 thousand and then got his trick boyfriend Crary to cover the check for him.

The reason I think he did this is he would have been put in a cell to await a bondsman when the judge set the bond. He could not bear it for even the time it would take to call a bondsman. The part that is a bit strange is that he gave his attorney a check for $10 thousand and that one bounced, so he must have given the court the check ahead of the attorney, or maybe he asked the attorney to hold the check until he could secure the funds... that happens a lot with lawyers. In some states, like mine, your lawyer and your bondsman are the same guy or their office can arrange your bond, but not in all states.

[Shazzie]

I had no intention to be harsh-I just think we are misguided to think she is "super human"..I include myself as I was swayed that way for a while by the projections we have assigned her..I think its important to remember she is just a human-and she is described as being devastated by seeing his image.
I think her family know her best-they see her every day.
I am just being careful not to create a mythology around her that she is somehow expected to live up to.
It's one thing to talk in the safety of ones own space..quite another to face a murderer. (when u are a little girl still).I agree with this post 100%

I was glad to read Cowgirl's post saying that the most she might be called on to do is testify on closed-circuit TV. That is a load off my mind. It sounds like the whole issue of her possibly having to face the slime in court is completely moot--yay for that!

[Shelayne]

With the monster's video tape of this ordeal, Shasta should never have to lay eyes on this piece of human refuse ever again. They have enough evidence to seal his fate.

God bless that precious baby.

[newtv]

With the monster's video tape of this ordeal, Shasta should never have to lay eyes on this piece of human refuse ever again. They have enough evidence to seal his fate.

God bless that precious baby.
yes- I agree- its the only good thing about his needing to watch himself do evil..that poor child..I cant even begin to imagine the horror story her 7 week ordeal was-everytime i think its as bad as evil gets-I am wrong.

[Liz]

Geraldo was on with O'Reilly and said he'd just talked to Steve Groene about an hour before. Steve said he would be willing to make some type of deal that the POS would not get the death penalty, under the condition that he confess to these charges; and to any and all missing children and murders he's responsible for, to give the parents of those children some closure.

Thought that was pretty big of Steve.

Meanwhile, caught the tail end of one of the 6 pm news stations. They said something like if you want a piece of Duncan, you'll have to get in line.
Went on to tell how for the POS's safety and security, they won't allow cameras in to videotape him. They said how normally at K.C. jail, the inmates are bunked in pairs.

Since Jesse is well known to many of the inmates there, some might want to do in this piece of crap; or just to make a name for themselves. They say, JED may also want to do himself in.

So, the maggot has a nice, spotlessly clean, glass enclosed cell, all to himself, so that he can be watched 24/7. The COs have to sign-off every fifteen minutes that they did a visual check on him.

Isn't that just peachy?

They allowed a camera in and those floors looked like glass ... so clean, looked as though you could probably eat off them. No lie!

[Cowgirl]

With the monster's video tape of this ordeal, Shasta should never have to lay eyes on this piece of human refuse ever again. They have enough evidence to seal his fate.

God bless that precious baby.I would not want to sit on his jury. Steve Groene says he is willing to forego the Death Penalty on two conditions. First, that Shasta never has to testify and second, that the slime comes forward and admits all his crimes so that other parents can know what became of their loved ones. That's pretty generous of him.

I wonder if that idea would be attractive to the POS?

The Feds could go ahead and ask for the DP anyhow, regardless of how the family feels about it. There are a lot of considerations, but with what this POS is supplying for evidence, I don't think the child would ever have to go to court.

[Liz]

Remembered this while I was outside watering my flowers.

The other part of 'Steve's deal' was the stipulation that Shasta not be required to testify. Even though it's pretty much a no-brainer, because if JED does confess, Shasta's testimony wouldn't be necessary.

[Linda7NJ]

I would not want to sit on his jury. Steve Groene says he is willing to forego the Death Penalty on two conditions. First, that Shasta never has to testify and second, that the slime comes forward and admits all his crimes so that other parents can know what became of their loved ones. That's pretty generous of him.

I wonder if that idea would be attractive to the POS?

The Feds could go ahead and ask for the DP anyhow, regardless of how the family feels about it. There are a lot of considerations, but with what this POS is supplying for evidence, I don't think the child would ever have to go to court.
Does POS stand for what I think it does? Piece Of........

[crocus]

Actually it was both Dr. Wachsman ($6,500) and Joe Crary ($15,000) who financially backed Duncan.

How, how, in God's name does this happen? Where did he get the money from to live a life of stalking and preying?

[Liz]

Does POS stand for what I think it does? Piece Of........


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