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surf_moon_stars
07-14-2005, 12:07 PM
Ok...as my eyes were ready to shut down last night , I found this online.

My apologies if this has already been uncovered...

Longshot maybe, but if he had jazzi jet as this screen name, why would I not think that this is Duncan aka "BIG JOHN" by the informaiton in this profile??

http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_profile/bigjohn.html


BIGJOHN is a:
gay Man looking for a gay Man in gay Fargo, North Dakota (ND) (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_citystate/Fargo--ND.html?PHPSESSID=a14d9431b4e9c5a1b9058002aeb0af6e ) USA

Stats:
Height: 6'00", Weight: 185 lbs, Age: 42 years old

Location:
gay Fargo, North Dakota (ND) (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_citystate/Fargo--ND.html?PHPSESSID=a14d9431b4e9c5a1b9058002aeb0af6e ) USA



gay Information Listing:
drag queen transvestite, or transsexual drag queen transvestite, or transsexual My Keywords
socio-group: bisexual male (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/socio-group--bisexual+male--1071529147.html), daddy type (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/socio-group--daddy+type--1071529147.html),
interests-hobbies: cars (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--cars--1080317522.html), dancing (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--dancing--1080317522.html), excercise (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--excercise--1080317522.html),
[ edit keywords (http://www.requestadate.com/myaccount/mykeywords.php) ]


NOTE: The reason I am posting this is because this seems to fit Duncan to a tee, and this guy OBVIOUSLY had more screen names other than the JET, JED jetd63 and jazzijet.

The guy likes "big daddy" types, hmmmm.....Big Al was like "his daddy" in jail.

Ok...This may be a long shot, as the picture will not display him like on the other friendfinder site, as you may have to join in order to see his pic.

Either way, what do you think????

Really, how many 42 year old, gay ,transexual men are livng in Fargo, ND???


Just wanted to present my findings....this screen name issue with him really is an issue....and we need to find them all out sooner than later. :mad:

Mirielle
07-14-2005, 12:14 PM
Ok...as my eyes were ready to shut down last night , I found this online.

My apologies if this has already been uncovered...

Longshot maybe, but if he had jazzi jet as this screen name, why would I not think that this is Duncan aka "BIG JOHN" by the informaiton in this profile??

http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_profile/bigjohn.html


BIGJOHN is a:
gay Man looking for a gay Man in gay Fargo, North Dakota (ND) (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_citystate/Fargo--ND.html?PHPSESSID=a14d9431b4e9c5a1b9058002aeb0af6e ) USA

Stats:
Height: 6'00", Weight: 185 lbs, Age: 42 years old

Location:
gay Fargo, North Dakota (ND) (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_citystate/Fargo--ND.html?PHPSESSID=a14d9431b4e9c5a1b9058002aeb0af6e ) USA



gay Information Listing:
drag queen transvestite, or transsexual drag queen transvestite, or transsexual My Keywords
socio-group: bisexual male (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/socio-group--bisexual+male--1071529147.html), daddy type (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/socio-group--daddy+type--1071529147.html),
interests-hobbies: cars (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--cars--1080317522.html), dancing (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--dancing--1080317522.html), excercise (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--excercise--1080317522.html),
[ edit keywords (http://www.requestadate.com/myaccount/mykeywords.php) ]


NOTE: The reason I am posting this is because this seems to fit Duncan to a tee, and this guy OBVIOUSLY had more screen names other than the JET, JED jetd63 and jazzijet.

The guy likes "big daddy" types, hmmmm.....Big Al was like "his daddy" in jail.

Ok...This may be a long shot, as the picture will not display him like on the other friendfinder site, as you may have to join in order to see his pic.

Either way, what do you think????

Really, how many 42 year old, gay ,transexual men are livng in Fargo, ND???


Just wanted to present my findings....this screen name issue with him really is an issue....and we need to find them all out sooner than later. :mad:
Could be. Especially as BIG JOHN seemed to like it all, which fits into the theory of the polymorphous perverse. And now I can't get the song from The Rocky Horror Picture Show out of my mind. ...Transexual, transvestite from Transylvania.

jc9876
07-14-2005, 12:16 PM
Did you see the questions on the side of his ad? The question about dressing up in sexy clothes is telling, as is the "gay dancing" as he liked to do that in his cell at prison...:dance:

surf_moon_stars
07-14-2005, 12:17 PM
I found this last night too, this guy needs to be accounted for on these
dates involved....

Ok, timelines on this and the other posts need to start being pieced...

I have one more post about his geocaching I am going to post here,
again, a long shot, but I am really feeling "his words" are his keys to
his traveling and communication with others out there who may be
participating in any of his acts.


http://www.farnuckl.com/cgi-bin/SLGuestbook/SLguest.php?page=2


December 20, 2003 - 11:07 PM
Jet from Fargo
jetd63@cableone.net (jetd63@cableone.net)
Where did you see us?
Ricks
Comments:
You guys rock, great energy!


I am trying to find out where state, city wise, where they played, as I did not see it, can you say 3 am in the morning when I started looking for more info.



Hope this helps

JMO

surf_moon_stars
07-14-2005, 12:18 PM
Yes, the big daddy is what stopped me in my tracks with him,

He really looked up to "big al" from what I can tell by h is posts
and captions in his pictures and blogs.


Yikes

indigomood
07-14-2005, 12:34 PM
http://www.farnuckl.com/cgi-bin/SLGuestbook/SLguest.php?page=2


December 20, 2003 - 11:07 PM
Jet from Fargo
jetd63@cableone.net (jetd63@cableone.net)
Where did you see us?
Ricks
Comments:
You guys rock, great energy!


I am trying to find out where state, city wise, where they played, as I did not see it, can you say 3 am in the morning when I started looking for more info.

JMO



that was an entry that Jet signed in the now defunct band Superlifer's guestbook...

When you go to the link that you posted...
click on home at the top of the page

then click on tour on the bottom left of page

and you will end up here.... http://www.farnuckl.com/Superlifer/tour.htm

the band played at Rick's bar in Fargo, ND (where Jet claims to have watched them play) on the following dates (2003)...

November 19-22 Fargo, ND Rick's 9-1

December 10-13 Fargo, ND Rick's 9-1

* December 20, 2003 is the date that Jet signs the guestbook *

surf_moon_stars
07-14-2005, 12:46 PM
Just saw it too Indigo....

My eyes could not take it anymore this AM when I finally went to bed...

Can you say in bed at 3 am....I never go to bed that late EVER.... :eek:



Boy, it is ashame that other people, who did not even know this guy personally is going to be brought into the public eye over a monster
who thinks his lifestyle was normal. He has posted on more sites
most definitely as he liked to get around Fargo quite a bit for a guy
who was paranoid people would know who he was.

BTW , Is Rick's a regular bar or a bar for "alternate lifestyles"

Anyone know?????

This poor me, and the system does not understand us kind of people that stuff got old real quick.


He should not even be having the freedom of listening to LIVE MUSIC in the first place.

Where or what was he doing at Christmas time, as during holidays, kids on break, more people around shoppoing .

I am so not thinking this guy is doing this on impulse...Happy Joe crap is crap, he had these demons all the time, and it was Happy Joe that he wanted to try and portary to his co-workers and close friends only.

I am shaking my head as I type this KNOWIONG every time he steps out his front door, (which was a long time period since his release) that every single child and family was in danger at every single second of every single moment in his life.


Ok...off to regroup myself....this is just so heartbreaking. :(

BillyGoatGruff
07-14-2005, 01:00 PM
Ok...as my eyes were ready to shut down last night , I found this online.

My apologies if this has already been uncovered...

Longshot maybe, but if he had jazzi jet as this screen name, why would I not think that this is Duncan aka "BIG JOHN" by the informaiton in this profile??

http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_profile/bigjohn.html


BIGJOHN is a:
gay Man looking for a gay Man in gay Fargo, North Dakota (ND) (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_citystate/Fargo--ND.html?PHPSESSID=a14d9431b4e9c5a1b9058002aeb0af6e ) USA

Stats:
Height: 6'00", Weight: 185 lbs, Age: 42 years old

Location:
gay Fargo, North Dakota (ND) (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_citystate/Fargo--ND.html?PHPSESSID=a14d9431b4e9c5a1b9058002aeb0af6e ) USA



gay Information Listing:
drag queen transvestite, or transsexual drag queen transvestite, or transsexual My Keywords
socio-group: bisexual male (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/socio-group--bisexual+male--1071529147.html), daddy type (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/socio-group--daddy+type--1071529147.html),
interests-hobbies: cars (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--cars--1080317522.html), dancing (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--dancing--1080317522.html), excercise (http://www.requestadate.com/gay_dating_criteria/interests-hobbies--excercise--1080317522.html),
[ edit keywords (http://www.requestadate.com/myaccount/mykeywords.php) ]


NOTE: The reason I am posting this is because this seems to fit Duncan to a tee, and this guy OBVIOUSLY had more screen names other than the JET, JED jetd63 and jazzijet.

The guy likes "big daddy" types, hmmmm.....Big Al was like "his daddy" in jail.

Ok...This may be a long shot, as the picture will not display him like on the other friendfinder site, as you may have to join in order to see his pic.

Either way, what do you think????

Really, how many 42 year old, gay ,transexual men are livng in Fargo, ND???


Just wanted to present my findings....this screen name issue with him really is an issue....and we need to find them all out sooner than later. :mad:

Ya know---there's probably more than one bisexual tranny in Fargo. And since its hard to figure out the stats on the site, he may be advertising himself as a Big Daddy, not looking for one. It would be safe to assume, though, that he was a hustler. Whether the two guys who forked over $$$ and put their reputations on the line for him were simply closeted gay lovers or fellow pedos is anyone's guess. For now.

mysteriew
07-14-2005, 01:04 PM
Ya know---there's probably more than one bisexual tranny in Fargo. And since its hard to figure out the stats on the site, he may be advertising himself as a Big Daddy, not looking for one. It would be safe to assume, though, that he was a hustler. Whether the two guys who forked over $$$ and put their reputations on the line for him were simply closeted gay lovers or fellow pedos is anyone's guess. For now.

Either way, I think they are going to having some highly uncomfortable times right now knowing that they are under so much scrutiny. Serves them right.

BillyGoatGruff
07-14-2005, 01:05 PM
Just saw it too Indigo....

My eyes could not take it anymore this AM when I finally went to bed...

Can you say in bed at 3 am....I never go to bed that late EVER.... :eek:



Boy, it is ashame that other people, who did not even know this guy personally is going to be brought into the public eye over a monster
who thinks his lifestyle was normal. He has posted on more sites
most definitely as he liked to get around Fargo quite a bit for a guy
who was paranoid people would know who he was.

BTW , Is Rick's a regular bar or a bar for "alternate lifestyles"

Anyone know?????

This poor me, and the system does not understand us kind of people that stuff got old real quick.


He should not even be having the freedom of listening to LIVE MUSIC in the first place.

Where or what was he doing at Christmas time, as during holidays, kids on break, more people around shoppoing .

I am so not thinking this guy is doing this on impulse...Happy Joe crap is crap, he had these demons all the time, and it was Happy Joe that he wanted to try and portary to his co-workers and close friends only.

I am shaking my head as I type this KNOWIONG every time he steps out his front door, (which was a long time period since his release) that every single child and family was in danger at every single second of every single moment in his life.


Ok...off to regroup myself....this is just so heartbreaking. :(
There is onkly one openly Gay Bar listed fo Fargo, The I-Beam. I don't know how old that info is, though. And it may have since changed names. But gays don't just hang out at gay bars, though.

surf_moon_stars
07-14-2005, 01:26 PM
There is onkly one openly Gay Bar listed fo Fargo, The I-Beam. I don't know how old that info is, though. And it may have since changed names. But gays don't just hang out at gay bars, though.
Thanks for the info Billygoat

I just wanted to know if there were any in his area, and I don't think that
is the only place he would frequent or go to, just asking to piece together
his timelines etc....

I don't doubt , and feel he would be more likely to go to regular bars, as he had a lady friend he mentioned having drinks with, and tried to fit in, so he says.

Thanks for the update.

surf_moon_stars
07-14-2005, 01:56 PM
Yes,

The guys is a sex offender, why would he EVER list himself there with his own personal name( initials, I mean) etc.., being a registered sex offender in his state??

I truly feel he is probably in data bases of men seeking men througouht all the states this man has traveled through. Thus screen names that represent his past, and what he likes.

The guy does TONS of camping it seems, and What better place for him to get away with taking pics or engaging in sexual acts, geocach, and catch up with his acuqaintances, and (money providing acquaintances) without them being seen in the general public.

I know that BG on Wacksman and Crary is going to eventually come out, as it seems it alreay has started with that post of Crary possibly being a person named "Jeff".


To be continued.....

Noted to say: Yikes, I messed up my post, but fixed it....Sorry

JMO

Cowgirl
07-14-2005, 02:57 PM
185 pounds?

Unless he has been doing some serious dieting lately, nope.

And there are lots of gay guys out there. Is there some reason this guy has to be all of them?

Shazzie
07-14-2005, 03:42 PM
185 pounds?

Unless he has been doing some serious dieting lately, nope.

And there are lots of gay guys out there. Is there some reason this guy has to be all of them?
I had the same thought, that this guy's size is all wrong. I don't know how tall JED is supposed to be, but if he IS 6 ft., he's nowhere near 185 lbs. He'd have to be at least 6'4" to be that cadaverously thin at 185.

jc9876
07-14-2005, 03:52 PM
185 pounds?

Unless he has been doing some serious dieting lately, nope.

And there are lots of gay guys out there. Is there some reason this guy has to be all of them?
You're right, Cowgirl. He doesn't necessarily have to be all of them! (Maybe he wants to be, but that's another story!)

But I think the point of this post was to see if he may be using this alias as well. If anything rings familiar.

I'm on the fence about this one. But we'll see what more sleuthing brings about!

surf_moon_stars
07-14-2005, 03:53 PM
The guy could have posted this post at any date, and/or lied about his
weight for his own "self esteem" reasons.

He had been on the run for awhile with Shasta, so he could not fill up on food the way he used to or could living at home taking care of himself.

Or...he just plain old stopped eating, around the time before and doing this
as maybe with his "demons" coming out, he was not keeping up with the
basic upkeep of even feeding yourself properly.

After all the guy does not have the metal ability to be able to not keep
from telling lie after lie, even if it was just about weight...

He may have thought if I tell them I am skiiny....they won't want to be
with someone skinny....vanity thing there...UGH

I remember reading in one of his captions with his pretty in pink or dress/swimsuit poses he BRAGS about how he is looking pumped or built up in his upper arms...and I think I saw something about hormones, but geesh, I have seen soooo much distrubing information, as well as read it, that my eyes are going to cross soon.

I will locate that post, as he is flexing himself in the picture, which may have been when he was working , going to school, and trying to "fit in" so he says.

The description in his ad matches to a tee with the likes etc...the guy has been able to go up and down in weight, and also mentions biking, exercising etc...so that is why I think this is him...

I did not sign up for the service to see if it would dispaly his ad ONLY to memebrs who are REGISTERED, but I thought maybe that is the case.

JMO

Thanks for listening~

BirdieBoo
07-17-2005, 11:01 PM
With all Duncan's internet activity, it makes me wonder if he ever posted here or read here.

Tom'sGirl
07-17-2005, 11:25 PM
With all Duncan's internet activity, it makes me wonder if he ever posted here or read here.
I've thought that many times through the past weeks..........VERY POSSIBLE as he probably had a laptop, although no mention of one being found in the Jeep.

doerkc
07-18-2005, 10:20 AM
Is it possible that prisoners have access to the internet?

Cowgirl
07-18-2005, 10:51 AM
Is it possible that prisoners have access to the internet?No. It is only rarely possible that they are allowed computers. By prisoners you are designating people in a prison, not jail. Some prisons have prisoners working, and using computers for their jobs. Some have even been contracted to deal with customers who don't have any idea they are talking to prisoners. A lot of those situations have not worked out very well, but they are quite careful now about what they let prisoners do after many were caught getting Mastercard numbers and such things. They do not allow them to get on the internet.

Scott Peterson was allowed to have a computer in his jail cell when he was on trial but was never allowed internet access. But most prisons do not allow computers even though some allow prisoners to have a typewriter. As computers replace typewriters I think you will see more prisons allowing computers but allowing internet access would be disastrous and they know it.

Cowgirl
07-18-2005, 10:58 AM
With all Duncan's internet activity, it makes me wonder if he ever posted here or read here.I don't think a sexual sadist and narcissistic pervert like him would have very much interest here. He seems only interested in his ideas, sick as they are. If he were interested in the law as it applies to pedophilia, he would probably go to the Court TV board, where they have a whole forum devoted to it. It was the Michael Jackson trial. He could meet all kinds of perverts there. One of them was named Duncan! At one point I thought there might be a connection, but that Duncan was posting after the murderer was arrested.

Incognito
07-18-2005, 12:56 PM
I had the same thought, that this guy's size is all wrong. I don't know how tall JED is supposed to be, but if he IS 6 ft., he's nowhere near 185 lbs. He'd have to be at least 6'4" to be that cadaverously thin at 185.
Here is what his profile says. Not sure when it was updated

http://www.ndsexoffender.com/scripts/bci.ag/owList (http://www.ndsexoffender.com/scripts/bci.ag/owList)

Name: DUNCAN, JOSEPH E

Demographic Information:

Date of Birth: 02/25/63
Sex: MALE
Race: WHITE
Height: 6-01
Weight: 150
Eyes: BLUE
Hair: BROWN

Residence Address:

KOOTENAI COUNTY JAIL
5500 N GOVERNMENT WAY
COEUR D'ALENE, ID 83815

BirdieBoo
07-19-2005, 01:18 AM
I don't think a sexual sadist and narcissistic pervert like him would have very much interest here. He seems only interested in his ideas, sick as they are. If he were interested in the law as it applies to pedophilia, he would probably go to the Court TV board, where they have a whole forum devoted to it. It was the Michael Jackson trial. He could meet all kinds of perverts there. One of them was named Duncan! At one point I thought there might be a connection, but that Duncan was posting after the murderer was arrested.
I would think that he would come here not to discuss pedophilia, but to see if anyone were "on" to him and to whether he had killed or been the perp in any other cases. I wonder if there was anyone who registered around that time and threw out some strange theories or something. I also wonder if he's involved in the disappearance of Leanna Warner, he might want to watch the crime sites to see if anyone had made a connection, since he was always on his blog about being "wrongly accused" of something or another.

Cowgirl
07-19-2005, 10:44 AM
I would think that he would come here not to discuss pedophilia, but to see if anyone were "on" to him and to whether he had killed or been the perp in any other cases. I wonder if there was anyone who registered around that time and threw out some strange theories or something. I also wonder if he's involved in the disappearance of Leanna Warner, he might want to watch the crime sites to see if anyone had made a connection, since he was always on his blog about being "wrongly accused" of something or another.I guess you give the postings of us Websleuthers a lot more import than I do. I'm sorry, but I really think a lot of posters here have an overblown idea of how smart they are, suggesting ideas to LE all the time. The cops may miss some stuff, but most of the time they are already on to the stuff that posters think they thought up for them, and some of the time we don't have all the info that LE has. I think they may thank us politely and roll their eyes at our thinking we thought of things they didn't. But that is just my opinion.

I know of one situation here where someone was so adamant about making her point to an FBI agent that he wanted her name and date of birth. That is because he was going to run her and find out if she was a nut, or possibly involved, but I guess that didn't register with the poster in her zeal to get the agent to look into her information. One could end up with a cop on the doorstep this way.

I really don't mean to discourage anyone from his/her private sleuthing, but the professionals usually are way ahead of us, in my opinion. And I doubt that someone running from the law would bother with our opinions either! There are legal websites -- like those that list new warrants and such -- that a criminal would be far more likely to use his time online checking.

wondering22
07-19-2005, 12:37 PM
With all Duncan's internet activity, it makes me wonder if he ever posted here or read here.
Hopefully forensic data miners have identified all computers that JED ever had access to, so that they can trace ALL his activity.

However, it's possible that during his frequent travels that frequented internet cafes and kinko's and public libraries, and was careful to keep that activity anonymous; i.e., he wouldn't have visited his own websites or used his known monikers.

So, it IS possible, with someone apparently as Net saavy as JED that he MIGHT have lots of online activity that LEOs have no idea about.

Probable?

I dunno, he is strange... so anything, IMHO, is "possible" - but only a professional could estimate the probabity of him frequently "covering" his online tracks.

I've no idea, but I don't think it is "outrageous," much less illogical to presume that he potentially had dozens of userids, and who knows what all he posted in USENET via anonymous remailers, who knows?

Cowgirl
07-19-2005, 01:15 PM
Hopefully forensic data miners have identified all computers that JED ever had access to, so that they can trace ALL his activity.

However, it's possible that during his frequent travels that frequented internet cafes and kinko's and public libraries, and was careful to keep that activity anonymous; i.e., he wouldn't have visited his own websites or used his known monikers.

So, it IS possible, with someone apparently as Net saavy as JED that he MIGHT have lots of online activity that LEOs have no idea about.

Probable?

I dunno, he is strange... so anything, IMHO, is "possible" - but only a professional could estimate the probabity of him frequently "covering" his online tracks.

I've no idea, but I don't think it is "outrageous," much less illogical to presume that he potentially had dozens of userids, and who knows what all he posted in USENET via anonymous remailers, who knows?Egg Zackly. It is too easy to be anonymous by using internet cafes, libraries, printing services, and the like for him to take chances using computers that would tie to him if he were doing something illegal. No one knew the ropes better than this creep. He however was a bit naive about other people's expertise. He seemed to think if he encrypted something that it would take supercomputers of the future to break them and the FBI guys laugh about that. Even then, I wonder if that naivete is actually another con--his encrypted thoughts could also be bait--or simply what he would like the cops to believe.

BirdieBoo
07-19-2005, 01:23 PM
I guess you give the postings of us Websleuthers a lot more import than I do. I'm sorry, but I really think a lot of posters here have an overblown idea of how smart they are, suggesting ideas to LE all the time. The cops may miss some stuff, but most of the time they are already on to the stuff that posters think they thought up for them, and some of the time we don't have all the info that LE has. I think they may thank us politely and roll their eyes at our thinking we thought of things they didn't. But that is just my opinion.

I know of one situation here where someone was so adamant about making her point to an FBI agent that he wanted her name and date of birth. That is because he was going to run her and find out if she was a nut, or possibly involved, but I guess that didn't register with the poster in her zeal to get the agent to look into her information. One could end up with a cop on the doorstep this way.

I really don't mean to discourage anyone from his/her private sleuthing, but the professionals usually are way ahead of us, in my opinion. And I doubt that someone running from the law would bother with our opinions either! There are legal websites -- like those that list new warrants and such -- that a criminal would be far more likely to use his time online checking.

Actually I wasn't trying to say anything about the intelligence of felllow WS.
Sorry if you took it that way, you seem to have a rather low opinion of WS posters intelligence. But my comment was really about Duncan, not fellow posters.

LE actually has been known to read and post at WS, and in fact used an idea posted at WS in the case of David Westerfield in checking the length of Danielle van Dam's hairs found in his presence, since her hair had been recently cut.

LE can't do it all by themselves, they do ask for the public's help quite often, and many concerned citizens are ready and quite willing to help.

But that's neither here nor there. I was simply wondering if Duncan had ever read or posted here, and I am going to continue wondering..... Other posters may wonder the same and wish to discuss possibilities.

As far as ending up with a cop on one's doorstep, well, that's really not something to fear if one has done nothing wrong, now is it?

BirdieBoo
07-19-2005, 02:04 PM
http://fifthnail.blogspot.com/2005_01_01_fifthnail_archive.html

here is a link to one of Duncan's blog entries that say his laptop is now "squeaky clean, virus and spyware free, fast as greased lightening and ready to roll!" from January 30, 2005

and further down the page he claims the police are spying on him through his laptop:My laptop has been acting strange lately, seems I keep getting re-infected with spyware type viruses. I finally found the hole and plugged it, but now today I get a rejection nottice in my email box for an email I never sent. The rejecting server is located in the same city I was being investigated out of this summer.

Cowgirl
07-19-2005, 02:11 PM
Actually I wasn't trying to say anything about the intelligence of felllow WS.
Sorry if you took it that way, you seem to have a rather low opinion of WS posters intelligence. But my comment was really about Duncan, not fellow posters.

LE actually has been known to read and post at WS, and in fact used an idea posted at WS in the case of David Westerfield in checking the length of Danielle van Dam's hairs found in his presence, since her hair had been recently cut.

LE can't do it all by themselves, they do ask for the public's help quite often, and many concerned citizens are ready and quite willing to help.

But that's neither here nor there. I was simply wondering if Duncan had ever read or posted here, and I am going to continue wondering..... Other posters may wonder the same and wish to discuss possibilities.

As far as ending up with a cop on one's doorstep, well, that's really not something to fear if one has done nothing wrong, now is it?No, I would not fear a cop on my doorstep, but I would not want my neighbors all gossiping about the FBI coming to visit me. Maybe some people would like it, who knows? What I would also not like is the cops being suspicious of me.

I didn't mean to insult anyone as to their intelligence. I just think some posters are a little naive. But sleuth away. There's no harm in it.

The cops seized everything when they busted him looking for evidence of his taking pictures at the Detroit Lakes event. And he was paranoid about what they may have done to bug his stuff when he got it back. Frankly, I don't blame him for that! I would not put it past them. It would be very smart of them to put some kind of tracker or chip in there, if such things exist. Even a Lo-jack chip, just to locate him.

BirdieBoo
07-19-2005, 02:23 PM
No, I would not fear a cop on my doorstep, but I would not want my neighbors all gossiping about the FBI coming to visit me. Maybe some people would like it, who knows? What I would also not like is the cops being suspicious of me.

I didn't mean to insult anyone as to their intelligence. I just think some posters are a little naive. But sleuth away. There's no harm in it.

The cops seized everything when they busted him looking for evidence of his taking pictures at the Detroit Lakes event. And he was paranoid about what they may have done to bug his stuff when he got it back. Frankly, I don't blame him for that! I would not put it past them. It would be very smart of them to put some kind of tracker or chip in there, if such things exist. Even a Lo-jack chip, just to locate him.
They can do it if they have a warrant, just like they put the tracker on Scott Peterson's car. Here is an article (http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0711/p01s03-uspo.html) which states that some states are now requiring sex offenders to wear GPS devices, basically lo-jack for criminals, which seems like not a bad idea to keep track of them.

Cowgirl
07-19-2005, 02:38 PM
They can do it if they have a warrant, just like they put the tracker on Scott Peterson's car. Here is an article (http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0711/p01s03-uspo.html) which states that some states are now requiring sex offenders to wear GPS devices, basically lo-jack for criminals, which seems like not a bad idea to keep track of them.They surely can, and they don't have to tell him about it. That is why I feel he was paranoid, but for good reason. I wish they had done that. When I said I would not put it past them, I meant an email tracker. Do they exist?

BirdieBoo
07-19-2005, 02:39 PM
As for police at my house, I guess I'd have to weigh the pro's and cons of the situation, I probably wouldn't mind having LE at my home if I thought I actually had some real information that could help catch a heinous criminal such as this, it would be more important than what the neighbors think.

However I am used to working around law enforcement as part of a former job, so I just think of them more as people who are trying to do a job rather than just amorphous, anonymous "cops".

BirdieBoo
07-19-2005, 02:46 PM
They surely can, and they don't have to tell him about it. That is why I feel he was paranoid, but for good reason. I wish they had done that. When I said I would not put it past them, I meant an email tracker. Do they exist?
They could have put a keystroke logger in, which is what he was afraid of. I don't know about email trackers, but there is a lot of technology available to LE that falls under the category of "search and seizure" if they have a warrant.

I feel that he may have had the machine "cleaned" as a means of removing whatever he felt the police may have put in there, rather than because it was "running slow" or acting up in any way. I also feel he was paranoid for good reason, I guess it's not really called "paranoia" if someone's actually done something wrong, in his case it seems to be more like "fear of retribution".

wondering22
07-19-2005, 06:29 PM
Egg Zackly. It is too easy to be anonymous by using internet cafes, libraries, printing services, and the like for him to take chances using computers that would tie to him if he were doing something illegal. No one knew the ropes better than this creep. He however was a bit naive about other people's expertise. He seemed to think if he encrypted something that it would take supercomputers of the future to break them and the FBI guys laugh about that. Even then, I wonder if that naivete is actually another con--his encrypted thoughts could also be bait--or simply what he would like the cops to believe.
Hi again, Cowgirl.

ONE thing that has really bothered me, (among many things that cringe me out regarding this case...) is...... HOW can this individual have written about Beaner AKA LeeAnna Marie Warner ...... and no LEOs noticed, not for years after her disappearance.

I mean........ will we, (the public) come to learn that there are a multitude of pedophiles writing about child victims in their BLOGS?

I mean..... really, there's some aspects of this case that just make me ... sputter.... as in: speechless.

That little Beaner's name has been in that blog for HOW LONG, and no LE ever noticed it there, it's simply chilling, ya know?

Hammerized
07-19-2005, 06:53 PM
The cops seized everything when they busted him looking for evidence of his taking pictures at the Detroit Lakes event.
But did they seize everything? They may not have known he was using his employer's basement for storage of his "computer stuff."

Cowgirl
07-19-2005, 07:25 PM
But did they seize everything? They may not have known he was using his employer's basement for storage of his "computer stuff."I guess I should have said, "everything he had in his car or apartment." He had a lot of gadgets--phones, laptop, camcorders, webcam. The only thing I think he mentioned that night was his waterproof camera.

I remember he mentioned putting stuff in storage once, wherever that is, so no doubt they didn't get everything he owned. I bet they have found it by now, unless he decided to destroy it before he left. Since he stopped working weeks before he took off, he had time.

Cowgirl
07-19-2005, 07:41 PM
Hi again, Cowgirl.

ONE thing that has really bothered me, (among many things that cringe me out regarding this case...) is...... HOW can this individual have written about Beaner AKA LeeAnna Marie Warner ...... and no LEOs noticed, not for years after her disappearance.

I mean........ will we, (the public) come to learn that there are a multitude of pedophiles writing about child victims in their BLOGS?

I mean..... really, there's some aspects of this case that just make me ... sputter.... as in: speechless.

That little Beaner's name has been in that blog for HOW LONG, and no LE ever noticed it there, it's simply chilling, ya know?Well, for all we know, they may have had his name in connection with her, for what it might be worth to law enforcement.

The chief of police in Fargo mentioned him posting on his police board, whining about the trials and tribulations of a registered sex offender. The chief's response was basically, "Tough, you earned it, we are going to supervise you." But the chief said, after all this came out, that Fargo police did not know anything about his Fifth Nail blog.

Whichever LE agencies were working on LeeAnna's case could have searched the internet for mention of her case. It's not the first thing they do, but when the case went cold...why not? I just don't know what they would do with the information that was on the blog. It was not like he said something that would incriminate him. In fact, if he hadn't said the part about not being able to find the receipts, I might be more suspicious. It was distraction and whining to me. I think his blog was full of crap, maybe on purpose to distract from what he was really doing. For instance, the day he molested the boy in Detroit Lakes, right near his favorite scuba shop, he posted in his blog. He posted the night before and the evening after and it was just some nondescript crap that would indicate nothing about the event. Now, if he had made a fuss about being someplace else that day then or something defensive, I might buy it. Because he did not, it makes me think he had nothing to do with LeeAnna, but that is just me. I bet the guys searching the internet for clues were on the NAMBLA and BoyChat sites looking for references.

Now what about if someone who read his blog got suspicious and let LE know? Then what would they do? Just because this guy made a mention in his blog, would they start surveillance on him? Hardly. They could not justify such an expenditure to their bosses. And just suppose they had, for say, a month? How long could they just follow him around? Especially if he didn't do anything?

SimonSays
07-19-2005, 09:32 PM
I never saw that he mentioned her by name, only "girl from Chisolm".

wondering22
07-19-2005, 11:23 PM
I never saw that he mentioned her by name, only "girl from Chisolm".Thanks for the tip.