Places to look for Janet's killer

[ewwwinteresting]

It seems Raven will stop at nothing to look for his wife's murderer. It has been rumored that he looked on the beach volleyball courts. It is rumored that he has traveled to Utah to look on the mountain bike trails. Could he now have traveled to Maine to look with his uncle fred abaroa at the adventure race in Mt. Snow, Vermont??


http://www.adventureracingzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=293&view=next

[SouthEastSleuth]

It seems Raven will stop at nothing to look for his wife's murderer. It has been rumored that he looked on the beach volleyball courts. It is rumored that he has traveled to Utah to look on the mountain bike trails. Could he now have traveled to Maine to look with his uncle fred abaroa at the adventure race in Mt. Snow, Vermont??

OOOOH EI - PICK ME PICK ME!!! I want to play "Where in the World is Janet's Murderer!"

Ok, let's see. We might have some clues. I recall on Raven's blog where he listed his "interests."

-Soccer
-Volleyball
-Table tennis
-Climbing
-Hiking
-Mtn biking
-BMX
-Snow boarding
-Blue Ridge
-Religion
-Family
-Philanthropy

Hmmm. The possibilities are just endless I guess. He's already searched while playing volleyball and mtn biking. Hiking and climbing he may have covered as well I suppose. Snow boarding - he might have to wait a few months to look there. Family - well surely the family wouldn't harbor a criminal. Philanthropy - Hmmm. A philanthropist, presumably broke with no job. Seems odd.

Dang, I know!!!! The murderer is off playing in ping-pong tournaments to earn a living!!! Could be a good thing - no background checks!

[surf_moon_stars]

Well....I am sad for Janet's family

Boy, this guy sure loves a good "adventure"....


I am telling you that I am so tired of seeing "NOTHING" from this guy...

Come on Raven, Stop Playing, and Start Searching....


I have not seen (1) picture of you out on any search, distributing flyers, and/
or asking for the Media's help to help locate the "suspect" in this case.

Why don't you show everyone here that you DID NOT have anything to do with what happened in April 2005.

Going out and "trying" to get back into a "regular routine" would be hard, yet impossible for others with the loss of a loved one, and yet for you, it seems to be quite easy to do.

Why don't you do me a favor, send an email, Drop a line, mail a letter to SOMEONE, ANYONE...to let them know you had nothing to do with what happened in April.

I know you are probably saying to your family, "I don't have to justify anything to anyone but my family".

That is a WEAK , pathetic , lame and immature excuse if you did not do this.

Don't you understand how many people, family, friends, and total strangers care about your wife's case, and would like to know "why and what happened"


Step up to the plate Raven, you are going to have to someday, Why not now??????

I am a very nice person, who does not seem to think nicely of this sitatuation at all......



Good Luck on your Racing Adventure..........NOT :razz:

[Thinkoflaura]

I have it on very good authority that he's also staying busy as a horny, er bee, trolling the skeeviest Internet sites for cheap " dates". You know, the ones where the girls are all named Tiffany or Kristi and are shown in panties from behind, their arms and long hair barely covering their chests.

Their average ages are 18.
He's a very busy bee, this murderer, um, bereaved husband looking for a murderer.

[JnTC]

Thinkoflaura: What constitutes "very good authority"? If true, it absolutely saddens me that another marriage, another LIFE has been ruined and taken by chat rooms, cyber sex, and all the other fabulous recreational activities the internet has to offer. So many good things come from the ability to share information boundlessly, but everything has to have its opposite. Sorry for the soapbox, but it just makes me sick.

[Moxie]

There is a rumor that Raven may have flown back to Utah last week. Anyone want to confirm?

[rememberjanet]

I heard that too. :mad:

There is a rumor that Raven may have flown back to Utah last week. Anyone want to confirm?

[ewwwinteresting]

There is a rumor that Raven may have flown back to Utah last week. Anyone want to confirm?
Doesn't seem to be an end to that trust fund!

[ewwwinteresting]

http://www.adventureracingzone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=293&view=next
Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 3:19 pm
Team Razbo, Mt Snow, VT

Our Female racer dropped out and we are desperatly looking for a replacement for this race. We are a novice team just looking for experience and some fun. Send me an e-mail if you are interested. ar@abaroa.org (ar@abaroa.org)

General Course Info (events in alphabetical order, not necessarily race order)

Total distance - approx 40 miles, although we will not reveal the breakdown of events, or if any of the events will be repeated etc will not be revealed until the MORNING of the start.
Canoeing - The paddling will be on a lake(s) where wind may be a factor! Canoe Paddles and PFDs are available if needed, and personal paddles and/or PFDs are allowed, as long as they are Type III CG approved, non-inflatable.
Mountain Biking - Good mix of 'cruisy' doubletrack, a little singletrack, steep climbing, and fun descents.
Navigation - no specific 'orienteering' section, but teams will have to use their map & compass the entire race, as NONE of the course is marked
Trekking/Running - Good blend of on and off-trail travel, where your navigational skills will be put to the test.

The Schedule....

Saturday, 16 July 2005 at Lodge at Mount Snow, near the main entrance to Mount Snow Resort, look for the Racing Ahead, Inc. banners, and RV.

9am - 11am Pre-Race Clinics - PLEASE pre-register via email, you can pay on Saturday AM, the 16th, space is limited 2-hour Navigation Clinic - $15 per racer

12noon - 6pm Registration – all racers must attend to fill out paperwork, do gear checks, one team member must complete the Navigation Review. Support Crews must fill out Waiver. Please don’t wait until the last minute. We will have many teams to get through Registration, and cannot complete check-in for all teams from 5 to 6pm.
Golite/Timberland’s Sprint AR Team will be doing presentations/Slide Shows during registration.

7pm Race Briefing; START location revealed

Sunday – 17 July 2005

5am – 5:45am Assemble at START

5:50am One support crew member from each team will line up at the STARTING line to accept the Team’s Course directions, passport, and maps. The information must remain ‘rolled up’ until the Race Director says go.

6am Race Director will say “GO”, and Support Crews hurriedly find their teams and divulge the course. As soon as teams are comfortable with their plotted course, they may take off on the first leg. Support Crews may help with the maps as long as the Support Crew remains in the designated STARTING area.

6pm Race Cut-Off – all teams will be at the Lodge at Mount Snow as full course finishers, alternate course finishers, as unofficial finishers or unranked finishers.

7pm Party at The Lodge at Mount Snow - included in entry for all racers, an additional $12 per support, family or friends. MUST PRE-pay at Registration, buffet style sit-down meal and prize giving.


Uh oh......seems the raven "replacement" didn't help the team much. Placed fifth out of six teams??

http://www.dnet.net/racingahead/ARSeriesRace2results.htm

New England Adventure Race Series
2005 - Vermont - RESULTS



2005 Official Results - 19 July 2005 - SPLIT TIMES (http://www.dnet.net/racingahead/arseries05race2splits.xls)





Fastest Leg Times
Leg 1 (Map Prep/Lake Paddle) 1:52 Haywalkers
Leg 2 (Running/Hiking) 2:32 Eastern Mountain Sports
Leg 3 (Mountain Biking) 2:31 Berlin Bike


Co-Ed Teams
FULL COURSE
1st Eastern Mountain Sports 7:51
2nd Berlin Bike 8:09
3rd GoLite/Timberland 8:17
4th SPTU/Darn Tough 8:20
5th Haywalkers 8:41
6th Pain Syndicate 9:18
7th Strongbadia 9:19
8th The 7up / Poprocks Syndicate 10:13
9th Wormtown 10:23
10th Focus 10:28
11th Duger 10:47
12th Friends From Away 2 10:49
13th Disoriented 11:02
14th Out of Control 11:53
ALTERATE #1 (no CP13, CP14)
15th Piche's AR
OTHER
16th Destination Unknown

All-Female Teams
FULL COURSE
1st Towanda / The A-List 11:22
OTHER
2nd No Spandex
DNF
Misfits

All-Male Teams
FULL COURSE
1st Canigetawitness II, The Congregation 8:20
2nd Cogg Wild (Richer) 8:39
3rd High Speed Vomit 8:48
4th Lite Kinetic 11:02
5th Razbo 11:13
6th White Mountain AR 11:19
ALTERNATE #1
7th Fat, Drunk & Stupid
ALTERNATE #2
8th Sierra #8
OTHER9th The Hams
10th The Average Joes
11th Harpoon
12th Unendorsed

[golfmom]

I was contacted by somone who has confirmed Raven is in Utah and has been seen out and about with Kaiden.

Word has it that his family is no longer attending church.

Hope ya like orange, Dude.

[Justgimmethetruth]

Now why would they give up church, especially at a time like this??

[Justgimmethetruth]

:doh: I was wondering - maybe Raven can look with OJ on the golf courses, for the real killers.

[juliagoulia]

Word has it that his family is no longer attending church.

So they don't go to church but have no problem hitting up church members for money (through the Seagull Newsletter) ????????!!!!!!! :furious:

[Jenifred]

Now why would they give up church, especially at a time like this??
I don't think that they've just given it up now. I would have money on the fact that they've never been that devout in the first place. Plus, why go somewhere that you will feel guilty going to every week? They've gotten what they want from the church, so why use it anymore?

Kaiden needs to be with the family in Virginia. I can just see a custody struggle if something should happen to Raven in the near future.

[terminatrixator]

Back to the topic of the thread here for a second. Places to look for Janet's killer, ummmm I would say, oh perhaps, Utah?

[golfmom]

Back to the topic of the thread here for a second. Places to look for Janet's killer, ummmm I would say, oh perhaps, Utah?

LOL and I thought no one caught on to why I posted that particular tip in this particular thread. :D

[SouthEastSleuth]

OOOOOOOOOH! PICK ME, PICK ME!!!!

I know the answer - two words:


SANDY, UTAH

[ewwwinteresting]

OOOOOOOOOH! PICK ME, PICK ME!!!!

I know the answer - two words:


SANDY, UTAHAlways have to be the smart one in the class, with your long posts and having all the answers!!:angel:

[golfmom]

Always have to be the smart one in the class, with your long posts and having all the answers!!:angel:

LOL EI, don't pick on SES, that was finally a short 'n sweet answer. :D

[golfmom]

http://www.canyonbicycles.com/main.htm

[ewwwinteresting]

http://www.canyonbicycles.com/main.htm
GM, isn't this where raven worked when he was a teenager? I seem to remember him mentioning at his site or resume or something about working at a bike shop in Utah? Does his former employer know something? Tell me! Tell me! :)

[golfmom]

GM, isn't this where raven worked when he was a teenager? I seem to remember him mentioning at his site or resume or something about working at a bike shop in Utah? Does his former employer know something? Tell me! Tell me! :)

Someone dropped me a note letting me know that Raven was FIRED from his cell phone gig and now works part time as a bike shop boy at the same shop he worked at as a teen. Talk about traveling backwards in life.

[newkid]

Yikes, that's where we take our bikes to have them tuned up. I don't really want to run into him. I am curious though, maybe I'll drive by.

[ewwwinteresting]

Yikes, that's where we take our bikes to have them tuned up. I don't really want to run into him. I am curious though, maybe I'll drive by.Ohhh that would be good NK if you can do that. Let us know what, if any, you see...hear!

ETA: Click for a map to our Draper store (762 East 12300 South) (http://www.canyonbicycles.com/drapermap.htm).</FONT>

Phone Contacts

801.576.8844

E-mail:

http://www.canyonbicycles.com/images/mail.gif
mikep@aros.net (mikep@aros.net)


NK: Do you know mike p? Is this the owner? Maybe this is the friend raven talked about at his site and the one that got him a job now?? Wonder if he knows about the embezzlement or bothered to do a background check.

[ewwwinteresting]

Someone dropped me a note letting me know that Raven was FIRED from his cell phone gig and now works part time as a bike shop boy at the same shop he worked at as a teen. Talk about traveling backwards in life.
Uhhhh, let me guess the background check came back???? OMG, do employers really hire people before the background check comes back?

So many questions...are we going to see him fired from the bike shop also in another week or so? Is raven ever going to be able to support himself and his kid once the trust fund monies run out? Hopefully raven can tie those apron strings to mom tighter.

[terminatrixator]

Well if you a find a guy that fits this description, you will probably have found Janet's Killer:

A guy that's riding an expensive new bike from his Mommy's house to a Parents without Parnters Group Function, while talking on a really expensive cellphone to a not-so-bright broad, after playing soccer with a bunch of balding Mulletproof guys?

[lauriej]

Well if you a find a guy that fits this description, you will probably have found Janet's Killer:

A guy that's riding an expensive new bike from his Mommy's house to a Parents without Parnters Group Function, while talking on a really expensive cellphone to a not-so-bright broad, after playing soccer with a bunch of balding Mulletproof guys?
.......good one..

..or, a guy , riding a really cool "demo" bike, loaned to him from the lame bike shop he works at.......pedalling to his mother's, because he has nowhere else to go.......( but 1st, stopping by the credit union to pilfer $$$$'s from the "trust fund") arriving home to log on to his new computer, ( bought from said "son's trust fund) ...

..only to find his previous ( google ) logs/chats have disappeared...." said logs now confiscated and in the property of LE"..........poor raven.....
...oh well.........maybe he can now create a raven @ yahoo email............until yahoo is also subpeoned..

[terminatrixator]

.......good one..

..or, a guy , riding a really cool "demo" bike, loaned to him from the lame bike shop he works at.......pedalling to his mother's, because he has nowhere else to go.......( but 1st, stopping by the credit union to pilfer $$$$'s from the "trust fund") arriving home to log on to his new computer, ( bought from said "son's trust fund) ...

..only to find his previous ( google ) logs/chats have disappeared...." said logs now confiscated and in the property of LE"..........poor raven.....
...oh well.........maybe he can now create a raven @ yahoo email............until yahoo is also subpeoned..
Even Better........:D

[Justgimmethetruth]

This sounds so familiar. Wife is gone, husband turns to porn to fill the void. Hmm - where have I heard this before??

Oh, yeah .... :behindbar

[JerseyGirl]

Apparently, Raven is also on a team called the Regulaters, (I don't know why the misspelling). I don't know if this is Mulletproof renamed or if it's a separate team altogther. Interesting to note although I don't know why, I find his name when I click the cached version but not through the direct link. Here are the links, (cached first):

MENS B (http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:HQlj41-7gc8J:www.letsplaysoccer.com/Main/Locations/TIMPANOGOS/std/MB.htm+raven+abaroa&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

mens b (http://www.letsplaysoccer.com/Main/Locations/TIMPANOGOS/std/MB.htm)

[JerseyGirl]

I think this is where they play in Salt Lake:

110 South 2000 West
Lindon, Utah 84062
801-437-0590 facility
801-427-8694

[terminatrixator]

so the mulletproofers decided they didn't like teasing and changed their name to regulaters or did he join another team...I'm thinking they didn't like the teasing - awe!

[lauriej]

Apparently, Raven is also on a team called the Regulaters, (I don't know why the misspelling). I don't know if this is Mulletproof renamed or if it's a separate team altogther. Interesting to note although I don't know why, I find his name when I click the cached version but not through the direct link. Here are the links, (cached first):

MENS B (http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:HQlj41-7gc8J:www.letsplaysoccer.com/Main/Locations/TIMPANOGOS/std/MB.htm+raven+abaroa&hl=en&ie=UTF-8)

mens b (http://www.letsplaysoccer.com/Main/Locations/TIMPANOGOS/std/MB.htm)
hmmm...that 's interesting........and good find jersey.!.
..the "MEN 'S B"...is as of 12/08..............with raven's name listed.............and the 'regulater' team at 0(wins) and 7 (losses).

..the "men's b" ..is as of 12 /09,also at 0 (wins) and 7 (losses) ..and yet no mention of raven's name at all...........( and yet the team 'regulater' is still showing on the roster........) where did raven go between 12/08/05 and 12/09/05 ?

[lauriej]

according to this : as of 12/21 :


http://www.letsplaysoccer.com/Main/Locations/saltlake/std/MBT1.htm

..he is still also playing for "mulletproof"....'men's b' on tuesday nights......

...(what 's a guy TO do ?.........his wife has been murdered.......he hasn't got a clue as to what to do with his baby boy---(oh right, move clear across the country and pawn him off on grandma.?!)-------and why not participate in TWO soccer leagues, while semi-not-even pretending to be the least bit interested in the murder case against his wife & unborn child ?)

[JerseyGirl]

I wonder if this thread could/should be merged with Where's Raven since most (if not all) of the posts in this thread are referring to Raven.

[terminatrixator]

http://www.letsplaysoccer.com/Main/Locations/saltlake/std/MBT1.htm

Seems Mulletproof are still playing - wonder if the Rave is still on the team, or is he really sucking at playing and can't score anymore.

[LTUlegal]

http://www.letsplaysoccer.com/Main/Locations/saltlake/std/MBT1.htm

Seems Mulletproof are still playing - wonder if the Rave is still on the team, or is he really sucking at playing and can't score anymore.
Hm, maybe the soccer team ain't gettin' any scores & maybe his girlfriend ain't either! :loser:

[terminatrixator]

Hm, maybe the soccer team ain't gettin' any scores & maybe his girlfriend ain't either! :loser:
OMG - I just noticed this.....I had to bwwaaaaahaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaaa over this.

I think Mulletproof was around the last time I looked online. Don't know if they are still playing, will look into this more tomorrow.

[lauriej]

yep..mulletproof is still playing................barely, they're in a dismal last place as of march 14th.........

MENS B TUES 1STANDINGS FOR:3/14TEAM NAMEGPWLTGFGAPOINTSJEREMY JONES2 20015330 1st BIO DIESEL2 1018723 2nd MMM SUGAR2 110151320 3rd JUVENTUS2 110111518 4th TIGRES2 01181213 5th MULLETPROOF2 0204114 6th

[terminatrixator]

Well we know that Raven will be in a dismal place when he dies for all eternity, but holding out for him to hit the dismal place here on earth when there is finally earthly justice for the rave.