MO-Amanda Jones, 9 mos. pregnant, missing

[Alice253]

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/18C53B66415B8F708625705F0015F5FA?OpenDocument

"More than 75 police officers and firefighters searched the Hillsboro area Monday for a pregnant 26-year-old Pevely woman who has been missing since about 5 p.m. Sunday."


"Jones' father, Hubert Propst, said his daughter is nine months pregnant and had gone to the center to meet with the father of the unborn baby. Police said they don't consider that man to be a suspect."

More at link.....

MODS, if there is another thread on this woman, please delete. I did a search, though, and didn't find one.

[turbosleuthing]

I am in town visiting my family and they live pretty close (45 minutes) from where this woman went missing.

I just saw the news and the sherriff is more of less saying that they believe she decided to take a couple of days and go off. I say bullcrap, she went to meet w/the father of the child and her checkbook is sitting in the front seat and the doors were unlocked. Hmmmmmmmmmmm Hate to say it but doesn't sound to good.

Prayers that she is found safe.

[Beyond Belief]

I hope this woman shows up soon.

[lisafremont]

Dan Abrams had Amanda's parents on and the story connected to the father of the baby is very odd to say the least. The father of the baby called Amanda Sunday morning to tell her that a couple in a red car came by to see him and said "You have to call Amanda." He said he did not know these people. Amanda doesn't know these people. But he suggested that they meet at the Civic Center and that they would all go to lunch in Desoto, a seafood restaurant called "Off the Hook."

Amanda's father said that he didn't really know this guy.

He's my suspect. This story makes no sense. How much do you want to bet this "couple" never calls LE.

[ShowerSinger]

Dan Abrams had Amanda's parents on and the story connected to the father of the baby is very odd to say the least. The father of the baby called Amanda Sunday morning to tell her that a couple in a red car came by to see him and said "You have to call Amanda." He said he did not know these people. Amanda doesn't know these people. But he suggested that they meet at the Civic Center and that they would all go to lunch in Desoto, a seafood restaurant called "Off the Hook."

Amanda's father said that he didn't really know this guy.

He's my suspect. This story makes no sense. How much do you want to bet this "couple" never calls LE.

I missed the story, but agree with you lisafremont!
Something very fishy about this, besides the restaurant!

[Tom'sGirl]

Dan Abrams had Amanda's parents on and the story connected to the father of the baby is very odd to say the least. The father of the baby called Amanda Sunday morning to tell her that a couple in a red car came by to see him and said "You have to call Amanda." He said he did not know these people. Amanda doesn't know these people. But he suggested that they meet at the Civic Center and that they would all go to lunch in Desoto, a seafood restaurant called "Off the Hook."

Amanda's father said that he didn't really know this guy.

He's my suspect. This story makes no sense. How much do you want to bet this "couple" never calls LE.
Shish, wish I had heard this on the tube, what a very weird account isn't it?

Lets all hope she shows up, AND SOON!

[Beyond Belief]

Greta is doing alot of coverage on Amanda. I hope it helps!

[Tom'sGirl]

Greta is doing alot of coverage on Amanda. I hope it helps!Well poop, I don't have cable anymore, but my mom has Fox on all day long so I'll ask her what she hears if she even pays attention that is! ;)

[cheko1]

Dan Abrams had Amanda's parents on and the story connected to the father of the baby is very odd to say the least. The father of the baby called Amanda Sunday morning to tell her that a couple in a red car came by to see him and said "You have to call Amanda." He said he did not know these people. Amanda doesn't know these people. But he suggested that they meet at the Civic Center and that they would all go to lunch in Desoto, a seafood restaurant called "Off the Hook."

Amanda's father said that he didn't really know this guy.

He's my suspect. This story makes no sense. How much do you want to bet this "couple" never calls LE.
Sounds like the brown van / the homeless people...etc
Don't sound very promising at all.
My thoughts & prayers are for her being found alive, but
the bf needs ripped apart by LE.

[Beyond Belief]

This story is all wrong. Nobody leaves their checkbook on the front seat of an unlocked car or a locked car for that matter.

Using words like "Off the hook" sounds more like daddyo gets off the hook when mommy's gone.

[Bobbisangel]

Rita Cosby interviewed the family tonight. My understanding is that the father of the baby has never been involved until he called Amanda and asked her to meet with him at the Civic Center. I don't understand why he would want to do something to her and the baby if he hasn't even been involved in Amanda's life for the past 9 months...unless she was going after him for child support.

She has a 4 yr old child...is my understanding... and is very close to her family. They said that she calls all of the time and wouldn't be one to just take off.

I'm so sick of hearing LE say that they don't suspect foul play. Then they mess around until the person's body is found. If they would suspect foul play from the beginning and if they would LISTEN to the victim's family the victim might be found before she is murdered. What does LE need...a video tape or a confession before they think there is foul play. It just makes me so darn mad. They should suspect the worst and then if it turns out good that is great but take the darn blinders off officers. Look how many pregnant women have ended up dead lately. They should be going over the car of the father of the baby with a fine tooth comb...going over his home, etc.

Amanda's checkbook was laying on the car seat? She decided to take a few days off with no checkbook or car??????? That babies father has done something to her...you can take that to the bank...if the LE will get off their butts and check him inside out and upside down maybe they could find something out.

[Sheromom]

Boyfriend is my bet as well. If she was receiving any social services at all, the state would go after the father right before the birth. I'm sure he decided he wasn't going to do anything for either of them! Odd that she should disappear with so many people around. I wonder if anyone saw her getting into a different car or anything?

[shellys]

I went to the St. Louis Cardinals game last night, and they had a newscast-type thing on the big screen before the game started during which they mentioned Amanda. I don't know how I missed it before then, but that was the first I'd heard about it. Nothing new today that I could find locally. I sure hope she did decide to get away, but it just doesn't seem likely.:mad:

[Beyond Belief]

Was the place her car was found, a staged event? Who would gain by her disappearance? Did the boyfriend ever meet with her? I am lost in this case. Did the boyfriend admit he called her?

[Tranaice]

Could it be possible that a couple really did call setting this up, with the purpose of taking Amanda for the baby? Stranger things have happened. Surely if someone did call this boyfriend, there will be a record of it in his phone records.

I pray she shows up safe and sound.

[Beyond Belief]

I would think that possible, but it could only be someone who knew her and him. Or someone who had access to his name, maybe paperwork at a dr.'s office, pre admission hospital office, or some mutual acquaintance.


You don't think this coming from her end? Like a grandstand play to get him interested in her and the child.

I would love to think its that way, so she'd be okay.

[fran]

Apparently, she's still missing. :( How often does this happen? This is the third one I've heard of in recent weeks.

According to the father of the baby, he last saw her in the parking lot talking on her cell phone. I hope LE was at least smart enough to check her cell phone records and the time that he said he last saw her.

What's with him getting a lawyer the first time he talks to LE? :doh: Guilty conscience?

JMHO
fran


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/1A4B16E1B9C9D5FF86257060001A32A5?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22amanda%22+AND+%22jones%22

Family fears for safety of missing pregnant woman
By Matthew Hathaway
Of the Post-Dispatch
08/17/2005

Amanda Jones told her friends and co-workers to keep her in their prayers this month. She was expecting to deliver a baby boy, her second child, and she was delighted.

But now Jones' friends and family are keeping the single mother in their prayers for a different reason.

Jones, who is nine months pregnant, hasn't been seen since Sunday evening, and police searching for the 26-year-old Pevely woman say they're running out of leads.

At the Eagle Bank in Festus, where Jones worked as a loan administrator, her colleagues spent much of Tuesday talking and worrying about their popular co-worker. Advertisement

[Beyond Belief]

This was either a set up or someone trying to make it look like a set up. Their going to have to look deeper into her past relationships and that of boyfriends. I don't think this was someone after her baby. I think this was someone who needed her out of their life, but a third party on the boyfriends side would not have put him at the scene. I wonder if she turned someone down for a loan they needed. That could tick someone off.

[Beyond Belief]

Now they said she was pictured on a video at Walgreens or someplace after he left her at the car. Anymore information on this?

[SpongeBathHotPants]

The first thing that came to mind when I read this was that the "father" did not want to deal with child support or any of the other responsibilities that comes with being a "parent" and maybe he found a couple that was willing to pay any price for a baby. So maybe she is alive somewhere and he is just waiting for her to give birth. Just my thoughts.....:(

[turbosleuthing]

I heard last night on another news channel that her cell phone was not found in the car. So I would assume that LE thinks that since the cell phone was not in the car that she just decided to walk off (not drive) and take her cell phone with her.

I am starting to think that maybe LE is saying the boyfriend is not a suspect in hopes that he slips up, however, I grew up in Jefferson County and I've known several LE officers (not sure if they are still in Jefferson County or not) and lets just say with out going into too much detail.........these guys are not the brightest bulbs in the box. I don't think they are equipped to handle cases like this. Maybe things have changed but they are basically only capable of pulling speeders over, and anything above and beyond that is IMO out of their league.

I hope Amanda is found safe.

[missy1970]

http://www.fox2ktvi.com/

FBI NOW HELPING IN SEARCH FOR MISSING PREGNANT WOMAN


There are more than a dozen investigators, including agents from the FBI are now in on the manhunt for a missing woman. 27-year-old Amanda Jones is nine months pregnant. She's been missing since Sunday. Sheriff's deputies found her blue Pontiac Sunfire unlocked in the parking lot of the Hillsboro Civic Center. Jones' purse, her keys and her cell phone are all missing. On Sunday, she told her parents she was on her way to meet the man she claims to be the baby's father. That meeting was set to begin at the Civic Center in Hillsboro at 1:00pm Sunday afternoon. A half-hour before the meeting, Jones stopped off a Walgreens store in Festus. The video was taken by store surveillance cameras. They record she entered the store at 12:27pm shortly after she left the Calvary Assembly of God church where she attended with her parents.After shopping for a few minutes, she left the store at 12:35pm. She spent $10.89 on a her Eagle Bank debit card, where she works as a loan processor. She purchased a Dr. Pepper soft drink a can of V05 hair spray and a clip used a key ring. Then she apparently was on her way to Hillsboro to meet a man identified as 38-year-old Brian Westfall. She told her parents she met Westfall at the Civic Center in December during an Eagle Bank Christmas party. Jones obviously made it to the Civic Center. Her abandoned car was there unlocked. There was no purse, keys or cell phone inside. Jones lives in Pevely with a four-year-old daughter by a former marriage. Westfall volunteered at the Civic Center for about four years. He was employed as a computer instructor at Jefferson College. His contract was not renewed last May. Jones told her parents he had set up Sunday's meeting after having no contact with Westfall during her pregnancy. Deputies emphasize that Westfall is not a suspect in the case and at this point they do not suspect foul play. Westfall was re-interviewed by deputies with his lawyer present. There are almost 20 investigators now on the case. They say so far there is no evidence of a crime, but they are worried about the safety of this mother and her unborn baby. Amanda Jones is 5 feet 8 inches tall weighing about 225 pounds with blue eyes and blonde hair. She has a dolphin tattoo on her upper left torso. If you have any information on her whereabouts, call the Jefferson County sheriff's department at 636-797-5515.

[Beyond Belief]

turbo

is this an area where she could actually get lost, like in the woods, or riding in someones car who went off the road into a canal or river?

did the boyfriend really go to the center?

[turbosleuthing]

I don't know the Hillsboro area all that well. Jefferson County is a pretty big county and I grew up closer to St. Louis County. Hillsboro is further out, but yes there are lots of wooded areas and rivers, creeks throughout Jefferson County. I have never been to or seen the Hillsboro Civic Center.

I did hear on the newscast that the boyfriend said he met her there and they talked for about an hour.

I'm very glad to know the FBI is now involved.

Hoping the best.

[missy1970]

Here is a link to the Civic Center with a picture. The entire county, like Turbo stated, is very rural....there are many farms, as well as wooded areas that would be difficult to actually search. Hillsboro is also probably 45 minutes away from Pevely where Amanda lives. She would not leave her vehicle at the Civic Center and walk home, or anywhere, really for that matter.

http://www.jeffcountyfair.com/home.htm

[Beyond Belief]

I m trying to find this google earth. what state should i be in?

[missy1970]

Missouri -- The city of Hillsboro, Jefferson County, Mo.

[Beyond Belief]

thanks thats what i am looking at.

[Beyond Belief]

Just lots of trees and dirt roads that end, going no where, unless their driveways and the houses aren't visible.

[SewingDeb]

Now they said she was pictured on a video at Walgreens or someplace after he left her at the car. Anymore information on this?

I believe this was before she met him.

[cheko1]

Thank goodness the FBI is involved.......its getting pretty
ridiculous anymore the way LE waits for a body to be
found....then they say / lookie what we found?????
Wonder who did it?
Seems mighty strange the babies Dad just so happens to
appear for the 1st time & bam she disapears!!!!

:doh: :doh: :doh:

[lisafremont]

No way she walked off. Her parents said she wouldn't do that, that her habit was always to be in touch. In addition, she has a little girl! No way she walked off.

She's been abducted or abducted and murdered.

[Beyond Belief]

She wouldn't just walk off. How does the x husband fit into all this and what was her motivation for contacting the unborn child's father if there was no relationship between them or him contacting her.

[fran]

Dan Abrams had Amanda's parents on and the story connected to the father of the baby is very odd to say the least. The father of the baby called Amanda Sunday morning to tell her that a couple in a red car came by to see him and said "You have to call Amanda." He said he did not know these people. Amanda doesn't know these people. But he suggested that they meet at the Civic Center and that they would all go to lunch in Desoto, a seafood restaurant called "Off the Hook."

Amanda's father said that he didn't really know this guy.

He's my suspect. This story makes no sense. How much do you want to bet this "couple" never calls LE.

So, according to the parents, the father of the baby is the one to instigate the meeting. Why now? Why would she disappear after meeting him? :rolleyes:

We need to know if they did in fact go to this restaurant and what time she made her final cell phone call. The guy said she was on her cell phone when he left.

:doh: OH!!! According to later reports, he told LE he met with her for about an hour and then they parted. What happened to the lunch and the people in the red car?

Gosh! I hope this LE isn't as inept as the Anaheim, Calif LE appear to be about their missing adults. They wait until the 'person of interest' gets rid of all traces of the 'missing without a trace' victim, then they say there's no evidence of foul play,.......end of story.........and the victim is lost forever.

JMHO
fran

[chiefs_fan_4life]

I grew up in Hillsboro (well, til I was 12) and we do visit the area occasionally. No way Hillsboro is 45 minutes from Pevely. It may be 15, 20 minutes at the most. I am not trying to correct anybody here, but just wanted to clear that up. My dad still lives in Festus and I have close family members in that area. This is truly saddening and I pray they find her safe!

[missy1970]

I grew up in Hillsboro (well, til I was 12) and we do visit the area occasionally. No way Hillsboro is 45 minutes from Pevely. It may be 15, 20 minutes at the most. I am not trying to correct anybody here, but just wanted to clear that up. My dad still lives in Festus and I have close family members in that area. This is truly saddening and I pray they find her safe!
I still live here, and I'm not going to argue with you either.

[shellys]

Yahoo maps is saying around 25 minutes from Pevely to Hillsboro. I don't travel between the two enough to know exactly, but I definitely thought it was less than 45 minutes. I could be there in 45 minutes and I am about 25 minutes from Pevely.
It sounds like he wasn't really even considered a "boyfriend". Almost like they had a very short-term relationship and she got pregnant, but he had nothing more to do with her until this recent meeting. Yes, how odd that she would disappear after seeing him for the first time in all these months. The area is full of places to hide someone (or, God forbid, a body). And I think I'd agree that LE in this area is probably not real well equipped to deal with something like this on their own. I am glad the FBI is involved.

[missy1970]

After thinking about it, Chief and Shelly, you are correct about the distance. It takes me, from my house about that long to get there. So, I stand corrected.


I still can not see her leaving Hillsboro without her vehicle.....I wonder if the hospitals have been checked? I sure hope she is found soon.

[Beyond Belief]

I read something that this guy wasn't even sure if this was his child. Did he even know she was pregnant before this little meeting? Did they have a one night fling? No birth control? Helloooooooooooo! Something smells of inconsistencies here.

[PrayersForMaura]

http://www.foxktvi.com/dynamic/images/stories/news/20050815-amanda.jpg MISSING PREGNANT WOMAN NEEDS MEDICATION TO KEEP HER ALIVE



Amanda Jones' family says the unmarried woman was diagnosed with Graves Disease and needs thyroid pills to keep her alive. Further, we found medication for the unborn child. The home certainly does not appear to be one of a woman who would simply leave on her own. There is an entire bedroom well equipped for an infant. There are even diapers and a sign on the door reading 'Baby Hayden's room.' She had positioned a bassinet in her own bedroom for when she first brought baby Hayden home from the hospital. The home is full of memories of her high school graduation, her bowling team activities, photos of Dolly Parton whom she adored, and the beloved dolphins she collected. The family says she was hoping to name the child Hayden Lucas Westfall after the man she believed to be the father, Byron Lee Westfall. After not communicating for nine months, he called her last week to meet her at the Hillsboro Civic Center, where they met back in December. She was planning to ask for his permission to name the child in his honor. Then she vanished. The sheriff says investigators are no longer talking directly with Westfall. All communications are now going through an attorney he's hired. Still the sheriff says both Westfall and his attorney have been cooperating fully. He says Westfall is not a suspect.

http://www.foxktvi.com/

[Beyond Belief]

No thyroid medicine is serious. They need to look around those grounds better.

I dont think this guy thinks this child is his, he might have gotten anger when she brought up the subject of using his name. Men are always in denial about these things.

People even get a little crazy without their thyroid medicine. We had one in our store one day, she was acting nuts, that continued for a few days, she even pretended she was a law enforcement officer for awhile. I know her daughter so we knew this wasn't normal. The kid baker acted her. All is now well. But back to Amanda........

[audrey77]

America's Most Wanted (AMW) is now covering the story - http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/brief.cfm?id=34131

[J_Bird]

I think that no 9 month pregnant woman is going to just walk off.
Can't imagine in cases like these, why they don't take a dog immediately to see the scene and see how far the person did walk.


May the deeds done in darkness be brought to light

[lisafremont]

This is a sad, sad story. The little girl is missing her mom. Is her father in her life? He doesn't live there. Haven't heard about Amanda's ex. Anybody know if at least this child has a daddy who cares? I expect that Amanda's parents will step up to the plate. They seem like a nice couple. I feel bad for them, too.

And then there's Amanda, now missing. But making a baby in such a chaotic way. The really poignant line was the one about her asking permission to name the baby in his honor. That is just sad, sad, sad. She didn't really seem to have a relationship with this guy but she went ahead and nominated him as sperm donor.

I have a really bad feeling about this case that there isn't a happy ending.

[Tom'sGirl]

The really poignant line was the one about her asking permission to name the baby in his honor. That is just sad, sad, sad..I too thought that part was very sad, and in a little way perplexing to me. Was she in doubt maybe as to her the father is, or is she just a poor insecure loving young woman?

A woman can put whatever name she wants to on her chids birth certificate, at least out here they do. In fact the birth announcements give both the parents names and in most cases the female chose to give the child the father's last name, and some never give the father's name and want the child to have their last name.

[Beyond Belief]

What could happen if this disease is left untreated?

If left untreated, Grave's Disease can lead to more serious complications, including birth defects in pregnancy, increased risk of a miscarriage, and in extreme cases, death. Graves’ Disease is often accompanied by an increase in heart rate, which may lead to further heart complications.

[mysteriew]

Authorities in Jefferson County announced this morning that a new task force comprised of 17 police officers is taking over the investigation of a missing pregnant woman last seen Sunday evening.

Lt. Col. Steven Meinberg said the task force met for the first time at 8 a.m. today. The announcement was made at a morning press conference that was supposed to be held at the main meeting room of the sheriff’s office. The briefing had to moved outdoors, because the task force has taken over the meeting room to accommodate officers assigned to the unit from five other Jefferson County police agencies.

Meinberg said officers from Crystal City, Festus, Herculaneum, Hillsboro and Pevely have joined the task force. He said the unit is contact with the FBI, but that the federal agency isn’t actively involved in the investigation. The task force is headed by Lt. Tommy Wright, the head of the detective bureau at the sheriff’s office.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/E060C179B767C65986257060005ADFF6?OpenDocument

[mysteriew]

There is still no sign of a missing Jefferson County woman who is nine months pregnant. Additional investigators have been added to the search for 26-year-old Amanda Jones. Five law enforcement agencies are now part of the task force working on the case, including the FBI.

Jones told her parents she was meeting the father of the son she was expecting to deliver at any moment. Detectives say Amanda drove to the Hillsboro Civic Center around 1:00 p.m. Sunday. The man Jones met told detectives they talked for an hour before he left. Jones hasn't been seen since.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83374

[mysteriew]

Jones went to the civic center to meet with Bryan Westfall (search), who relatives said is the father of her unborn child. His lawyer, Kevin Roberts, said Westfall has met with police four times since her disappearance. "He's tried to be as cooperative as possible," Roberts said.

Roberts would not discuss the conversation between Jones and Westfall on Sunday out of respect for their privacy. "It was cordial," he said, noting that Westfall is praying for her safe return.

Westfall doesn't know if he is the father of Jones' unborn child, Roberts said

Propst said Jones was due to give birth next week, and couldn't easily walk in her ninth month of pregnancy, making family members all the more inclined to think she wouldn't have voluntarily left the area.

Boyer said a 20-member task force is working to find Jones. Authorities searched a wooded area Monday, have flown over the region looking for her, and have put out word nationwide about Jones' disappearance.

Boyer said that despite some suspicious circumstances, there has been no physical evidence and no witness indicating a crime. He said there are no suspects.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,166015,00.html

[Bobbisangel]

No thyroid medicine is serious. They need to look around those grounds better.

I dont think this guy thinks this child is his, he might have gotten anger when she brought up the subject of using his name. Men are always in denial about these things.

People even get a little crazy without their thyroid medicine. We had one in our store one day, she was acting nuts, that continued for a few days, she even pretended she was a law enforcement officer for awhile. I know her daughter so we knew this wasn't normal. The kid baker acted her. All is now well. But back to Amanda........



Now wait just one minute!!!! I have been on thyroid medication for years and if you have been around someone who acted crazy without their meds it had nothing to do with the thyroid. When a person doesn't take their meds it causes them to become exhaused...so tired they cannot function...tired to the bone. It doesn't have anything to do with the mind. A person can become very sick..physically...without their meds.

I doubt that Amanda would have just taken off knowing how important that her medication is to her physical health. If this is the third day without medication...assuming that she took her meds on Sunday...Amanda is no doubt feeling the affects. I sure hope that she is found soon. I'm also glad that the FBI is involved.....hopefully they are smarter than the cops involved in the case.

[Tom'sGirl]

Now wait just one minute!!!! I have been on thyroid medication for years and if you have been around someone who acted crazy without their meds it had nothing to do with the thyroid. When a person doesn't take their meds it causes them to become exhaused...so tired they cannot function...tired to the bone. It doesn't have anything to do with the mind. A person can become very sick..physically...without their meds.
Thank you Bobbi for posting this, I wanted to post "hey, you don't act crazy" but thought I'd leave it alone, BUT I KNOW FOR A FACT THE LACK OF MEDS DON'T AFFECT YOU as described in another post. Medication is usually once a day on an empty stomach.

Also I have noticed in those with Graves (family member) there may be dryness of the hair, some hair loss and as you said extreme feeling of fatiigue. This doesn't happen in only a few days without taking the medication however.

[chiefs_fan_4life]

Wait a minute...was she last seen August 7 or August 14? AMW says the 7th but I could have swore this just happened this past Sunday. That discrepancy is an entire week. Am I simply confused or has anyone else noticed this?

[Bobbisangel]

I still want to know about this couple in a red car that came and talked to the baby's dad claiming they wanted to get in touch with Amanda....a couple that she didn't know...he didn't know...but they knew how to contact this man who has had no contact with Amanda in 9 months??? Sounds like a story to me. An excuse to contact Amanda for whatever this guy had on his mind.

Even if he wasn't sure that the baby was his the guy could have had DNA testing done after it was born. Of course if it turned out to be his she could nail him for child support. Her parents said that this guy was the only one she was with when she got pregnant.

I just find it strange that all of a sudden...right before the baby comes...he contacts Amanda....she doesn't contact him.

They find Amanda's car but it looks like she has taken her purse, cell phone, etc, with her but left her car unlocked. She must have went willingly with whoever. If there had been a scuffle someone would have seen it. Amanda isn't a small girl and would probably be difficult to get her to go somewhere if she didn't want to go. If she was drugged she would have been dead weight and it would have been no easy task to drag or carry her to a car at the Civic Center without being seen. She must have known the person....like the baby's father!!

I wonder if anyone saw her leave the Civic Center alone or with someone.
It doesn't sound like they went to lunch...according to the baby's father anyway.

Last but not least...I, for the life of me, don't understand the naming of the baby after him. The guy was a sperm donor...that is all. In his honor??? What honor??? That is some crazy thinking. Maybe Amanda thought if she named the baby after the guy he would come around and be a dad to the little guy. That is sad. Sounds like wishful thinking.

Last..lol. Amanda's parents said that her and the ex get along just fine. They didn't during the divorce but are friends now. I got the impression that he is involved in his daughter's life. Glad about that.

[chiefs_fan_4life]

Was the alleged father of the baby married? I don't recall reading anything about that.

There was a pregnant woman in Missouri maybe a year or so ago who was slain and the baby cut from her womb by a woman who was supposed to buy a dog from her. The victim had an add on the internet about her puppies and this lady drove from Kansas and killed her and took her baby. I feel badly about not remembering her name. Maybe this guy DID know a couple or knew someone who knew someone who wanted a baby and Amanda WAS the target of the sick scheme...

[Tom'sGirl]

Was the alleged father of the baby married? I don't recall reading anything about that.

There was a pregnant woman in Missouri maybe a year or so ago who was slain and the baby cut from her womb by a woman who was supposed to buy a dog from her. The victim had an add on the internet about her puppies and this lady drove from Kansas and killed her and took her baby. I feel badly about not remembering her name. Maybe this guy DID know a couple or knew someone who knew someone who wanted a baby and Amanda WAS the target of the sick scheme...
Westfall is unmarried and lives in the Hillsboro area. He is a member of the Hillsboro Community Civic Club, which owns the civic center where Jones' car was found.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/8EF7BFC3ACAE997C8625706000533FCD?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22amanda%22+AND+%22jones%22 (http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/8EF7BFC3ACAE997C8625706000533FCD?OpenDocument&highlight=2%2C%22amanda%22+AND+%22jones%22)

ALSO at this link below:

http://www.stltoday.com/ (http://www.stltoday.com/)

type in Amanda Jones at the top where site search is.........some 'stuff' I hadn't read before. I think it was her dad in one of the articles that mentioned the possibably of someone wanting a baby.

[TisHerself]

If this was a scheme for the baby she could be anywhere, definately out of state. The not BF I couldn't quite figure out I was thinking his brain must keep shorting out. He calls her after not seeing her for months does not think he is the father and poof she's gone. Who does he think they are going to point the finger at? OJ?
OK so he can't be that stupid he either has to have an airtight alibi or he believes she will never be found. That's if he is involved.

[lostfaith]

I'm not one to make snap judgements about the fathers or husbands involved in these type of cases, but this is definately a case where he needs to be fully looked at. Some questions I would like to know answers too....

If she had no contact with him during the pregnancy, did he even know? I am assuming he did since one article stated that she wanted to know from him if he changed his mind and wanted to be envolved in the baby's life. So if he did know about the baby, what was his initial reaction?

What do her cell phone records show?

Has his car been searched or just his residence? Since it looks like such a open area by the civic center, if he is involved and her car was still where she parked it, he had to have used his own vehicle. Was there any witnesses in the parking lot who saw her, him or anyone else with them?

What time was she reported missing? How soon was the father interviewed after she was reported missing? The lapse of time between when she was seen in the video and when the boyfriend was seen by police could tell us how much time he had to get rid of a body if he did indeed do anything to her.

If it is him, I cant understand how these men think they can get away with this kind of thing in light of all the cases recently, they all get caught. Do they think they are so "bright" that think they will be the one that gets away with it?

I wont rule out yet someone taking her for the baby, we have had quite a few of those recently too. The father could also be involved in that scenerio too.

Hope she is o.k., but I do not think so.

Also not ruling out her leaving, although I think that is unlikely. She might have been feeling like she really needed him in her life and thought that maybe this scare would get him to want to be with her. But like I said, this scenerio does not really jive with me.

[Tom'sGirl]

Wait a minute...was she last seen August 7 or August 14? AMW says the 7th but I could have swore this just happened this past Sunday. That discrepancy is an entire week. Am I simply confused or has anyone else noticed this?I didn't mean to ignore your question Chiefs. All the articles of Aug. 16th and the 17th say she had been last seen Sunday (but give no date) so I assumed they meant Sunday, Aug. 14th, which I think is the correct date she was last seen, not the 7th.

[chiefs_fan_4life]

Thanks, Tomsgirl. And thanks for the links to Stltoday. I've been following the case through ksdk Channel 5 website and haven't checked newspaper website in months. Also, I, too, am under the assumption that she went missing August 14. I hope if this is the case America's Most Wanted corrects their information if it is incorrect.

[lisafremont]

I still want to know about this couple in a red car that came and talked to the baby's dad claiming they wanted to get in touch with Amanda....a couple that she didn't know...he didn't know...but they knew how to contact this man who has had no contact with Amanda in 9 months??? Sounds like a story to me. An excuse to contact Amanda for whatever this guy had on his mind....

Hinky story from the getgo. Makes NO sense. Could be that he concocted this story to try to throw suspicion onto the "couple in the red car" because a couple might want the baby and they would be suspects, wouldn't they?

But I'm with you. Two strangers know how to contact him to reach her and they've not in touch for months?? Makes zero sense.

[cami]

Could it be possible that a couple really did call setting this up, with the purpose of taking Amanda for the baby? Stranger things have happened. Surely if someone did call this boyfriend, there will be a record of it in his phone records.

I pray she shows up safe and sound.

They are reporting that the father of the baby was not her boyfriend. It was a one-night stand type of thing. He hasn't been involved in the pregnancy at all. Very, very suspicious that he would call her out of the blue and ask to meet.

I too pray she shows up safe and sound. She's due any day now.

[PrayersForMaura]

They are reporting that the father of the baby was not her boyfriend. It was a one-night stand type of thing. He hasn't been involved in the pregnancy at all. Very, very suspicious that he would call her out of the blue and ask to meet.

I too pray she shows up safe and sound. She's due any day now.I have a theory on why he called her out of the blue.
Hillsboro and Pevely are small towns.
People seem to know each other's business when they want to.
In one story, I remember reading that Amanda met him at the civic center at a Christmas party through a friend. yes, it was a one-night stand. Her mother called it a mistake. :(
But, Amanda was going to keep this baby.
Word probably got back to this guy that she was carrying his baby and he probably denied it was his. He probably has a girlfriend ... probably had one at the time. I am only theorizing here. (sort of like that Texas Cadet murder movie)
Word probably got back to the girlfriend and she was in tears wanting to break up with him. He tells her no, don't do that, I love you not her. She says then you make her get rid of that baby. So he calls Amanda out of the blue.
Amanda, the sweet and unsuspecting woman she is, is happy. She plans to keep this baby no matter what but does want to ask him if she the baby could have his last name (says that in a news story on one of these links).

The guy thinks maybe since he called her that morning that she has no time to tell anyone she is meeting him, so he will just kill her and no one will know what happened to her.
Problem for him is, she DID tell someone where she was going.
Now he needs a story and an alibi.
And apparently ... a lawyer :(

I think he strangled her or shot her and took her to a nearby river or creek or field. I really hate to even think this but too often these days, a pregnant woman who turns up missing is murdered by the father of the child.
:(


Prayers for Amanda, her daughter, her family and her unborn son Hayden.

[TisHerself]

What was he planning on telling them why her car was there? how was he going to explain that?

[PrayersForMaura]

What was he planning on telling them why her car was there? how was he going to explain that?
I think he wasn't going to explain that he was there, except that she had told someone that she was going to meet him. It screwed up his plan.
Maybe he was going to drive her car away, too, but someone was there.
Obviously, she got into his car and he took her somewhere because she took her purse, phone and keys with her... I mean, this is just my opinion.

[TisHerself]

Makes sense

[TisHerself]

Being pregnant is becoming a very dangerous state to be in. How sad.:(

[PrayersForMaura]

yes, Tis herself, unfortunately it is.

There's an updated story posted, but not any real news.

Pregnant woman still missing in Jefferson County
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/0C98F6DCEA432CBF8625706100117112?OpenDocument

"Police have received about 70 tips regarding the disappearance of Amanda Jones, a nine months pregnant Pevely woman missing since Sunday, but say they still have no evidence of a crime or any indication of what happened to her.

A loan administrator at Eagle Bank in Festus, Jones, 26, was last seen at the horse-show grounds of the Hillsboro Civic Center on Highway 21 in central Jefferson County about 5 p.m. Sunday. Police found her unlocked car there but said it offered no clues.

Police have not recovered Jones’ purse or cell phone..."

[ketel0ne]

PrayersForMaura

In one story, I remember reading that Amanda met him at the civic center at a Christmas party through a friend. yes, it was a one-night stand. Her mother called it a mistake.


Do you have a link for where that came from? Not questioning it but I have been watching the rss feeds on http://www.missingabducted.com and have not seen that in the stories.

[mysteriew]

In a press conference Thursday morning, Boyer said police had intensified the search for Jones overnight Wednesday searching the property near and adjacent to the Civic Center on foot, using canine units and from the air, but had found no clues.

“We have no physical evidence, nor do we have any statements from anyone to indicate that a crime has been committed,” Boyer said.

He added, however, that police considered Jones’ disappearance to be suspicious.

“We are treating this as a very serious incident,” Boyer said.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/0C98F6DCEA432CBF8625706100117112?OpenDocument

[mysteriew]

Just days away from her due date, Amanda Jones was thrilled about the upcoming baby boy.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/2005/Aug/20050818News015.asp

[TisHerself]

Any news on Amanda? She was on my mind all day, this is just so sad. I hope they here something soon. I feel for her little girl.

[PrayersForMaura]

Do you have a link for where that came from? Not questioning it but I have been watching the rss feeds on http://www.missingabducted.com (http://www.missingabducted.com/) and have not seen that in the stories.
Which line did you want verified?

Here's part of it:

"According to her mother, Jones didn’t have any contact with Westfall during her pregnancy. But her mother said Jones had received a phone call from Westfall before she left for church Sunday morning. Jones told her mother that Westfall wanted to get together for lunch.

Her mother said Jones wanted to talk to Westfall to find out whether he wanted to be part of his son’s life. "

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/0C98F6DCEA432CBF8625706100117112?OpenDocument

[ketel0ne]

Thanks, I missed that one somehow.

[PrayersForMaura]

Thanks, I missed that one somehow.
Here's the story about it being a mistake:

"Jones told her parents, Hubert and Bertha Propst of Festus, that she met Westfall at a Christmas party at the Civic Center last year.

"It was just a one-night stand thing," Bertha Propst said. "A mistake."

According to her mother, Jones didn't have any contact with Westfall during her pregnancy. But her mother said Jones had received a phone call from Westfall before she left for church Sunday morning. Jones told her mother that Westfall wanted to get together for lunch. "

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/D2ACA8584AFDE6468625706100569053?OpenDocument

[PrayersForMaura]

they are now using planes with infrared lights to detect body heat.


they need to search this guy's car asap.

[PrayersForMaura]

I called up the tipline with my own theories .... and they called me back. Maybe I am misinterpreting but they sounded rather irritated and told me they were already on what I was thinking about. :silenced:

[TisHerself]

I called up the tipline with my own theories .... and they called me back. Maybe I am misinterpreting but they sounded rather irritated and told me they were already on what I was thinking about. :silenced:
Prayers for Maura,

Sometimes little towns get a bit touchy if they think your telling them how to do things.:o They did call you back so that was nice, and you did the right thing. Did they question Westfall? I forget if I read that sorry. I still wonder why he called her out of the blue, it really makes no sense.
It also makes no sense to me that supposedly this was a mistake a one night stand. She had not seen him since then, now at nine months pregnant she wants to know if she can give the baby his name, and if he wants to be in the baby's life. I know she is missing but there is something that is just not right with this story. I hope they find her soon.

[PrayersForMaura]

Prayers for Maura,

Sometimes little towns get a bit touchy if they think your telling them how to do things.:o They did call you back so that was nice, and you did the right thing. Did they question Westfall? I forget if I read that sorry. I still wonder why he called her out of the blue, it really makes no sense.
It also makes no sense to me that supposedly this was a mistake a one night stand. She had not seen him since then, now at nine months pregnant she wants to know if she can give the baby his name, and if he wants to be in the baby's life. I know she is missing but there is something that is just not right with this story. I hope they find her soon.
Silly me told them I follow crime cases and know that the leading cause of death of pregnant women is murder, mostly by the father of the baby. I then said that surely she had to have gotten into his car if she was supposed to meet him there and then go to lunch (as was reported in the paper) ... I mean, why were her purse, keys and phone gone? Usually, if I am running to lunch -- or anywhere for that matter -- with my friend, and meeting them somewhere, I grab my purse, and my cell phone and keys naturally come along with me. I then asked why his car wasn't searched or impounded? He said "we've already taken care of all that ma'am, thank you." And I said sorry for bothering you and hung up.
I know, I know ... I'm a silly woman. But, why wasn't this mentioned?
If a car is impounded, that's often mentioned but maybe I just watch too much CourTV! :p

I am wondering if she wanted to ask him for his name because maybe she was pining over him... was she writing him letters, calling him ... maybe he wasn't returning her calls or answering her letters?

I still think he was a woman of his own somewhere in this puzzle.
All the pieces haven't quite been arranged yet in this tragic puzzle, I'm afraid. :(

[MidnightMyst]

Sad this is...A friend from near St. Louis just told me about it and I said...I'll go look on WS...to see if any news...well of course there were already 4 pages LOL

A few weeks ago a woman from St. Louis was missing and they found her in Belleville ILL (just across the river) where my friends live.

Pregnant or not...life is just sometimes too scary!???

I dont think I have to worry about myself...I am far too fat and mean for anyone to mess with LOL and if they do...more power to them...but I truly feel for this woman (she reminds me of Laci somehow) and she looks like a friend of mine from that area (it is not her)

enough rambling...I hope they find her.....

[PrayersForMaura]

Sad this is...A friend from near St. Louis just told me about it and I said...I'll go look on WS...to see if any news...well of course there were already 4 pages LOL

A few weeks ago a woman from St. Louis was missing and they found her in Belleville ILL (just across the river) where my friends live.

Pregnant or not...life is just sometimes too scary!???

I dont think I have to worry about myself...I am far too fat and mean for anyone to mess with LOL and if they do...more power to them...but I truly feel for this woman (she reminds me of Laci somehow) and she looks like a friend of mine from that area (it is not her)

enough rambling...I hope they find her.....
Awww, your post is too sweet.
I know the woman's story you mentioned ... she was the one who met those two slimy guys from Paddy O's and they shot her :(
She was the biggest cardinals fan, I read.
I followed her story intently. It does appear that life is dangerous for children and women. :(

[MidnightMyst]

Awww, your post is too sweet.
I know the woman's story you mentioned ... she was the one who met those two slimy guys from Paddy O's and they shot her :(
She was the biggest cardinals fan, I read.
I followed her story intently. It does appear that life is dangerous for children and women. :(

Yes that was sad Maura..to be sure she didn't have the best judgement but still? Sometimes I wonder what world we are living in?

[Beyond Belief]

i don't know why but i have alot of faith this lady is going to be found.

the only reason i can think of her walking away from car and leaving it unlocked would be to go to the bathroom. and we all know what thats like when your pregnant especially since she had the soda on the way there at 12 thirty. i wonder if that soda bottle was still in the car? did she carry a purse that everything fell out of? did she leave the checkbook as a message?

there's another case where the car was run off the road and the woman disappeared, her checkbook was on the seat too. i just can't remember who she was so i could check the location and details.

[mysteriew]

Jefferson County Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer said investigators had received more than 100 tips about Amanda Jones, who is nine months pregnant and hasn't been seen since Sunday. One tip came from Wisconsin, where a man claimed to have seen Jones sitting in the car behind him at a traffic light.

"Some of the tips have not been helpful," Boyer said.

Police have not recovered Jones' purse or cell phone but said there had been no activity on her credit cards.

Boyer said a 20-person task force intensified its search for Jones overnight Wednesday, scouring the property near the Civic Center on foot and using canine units. The task force also used an airplane equipped with an infrared imager capable of detecting body heat. Boyer said the searches provided no new clues.

"We have no physical evidence, nor do we have any statements from anyone to indicate that a crime has been committed," Boyer said. But he added that police considered Jones' disappearance to be suspicious.

Jones had gone to the Civic Center to meet Bryan Lee Westfall, the man her family says is the father of her baby.

Jones had told her parents, Hubert and Bertha Propst, that she met Westfall at a Christmas party at the Civic Center last year.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/E69B6FA69B3E7A7C862570620012D97F?OpenDocument

[mysteriew]

Still no sign of a missing Pevely woman, despite several new searches Wednesday night. 26-year-old Amanda Jones, who is nine months pregnant, has been missing for more than three days. Jefferson County Deputies intensified their search for Jones using a helicopter with infrared equipment, a K-9 unit and on foot.

Sheriff's deputies focused again on the area in and around the Hillsboro's Civic Center. It was there Jones met a male acquaintance on Sunday. Investigators say the two talked for about an hour. Later that night, Jones' family reported her missing.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83515

[Bobbisangel]

Yes that was sad Maura..to be sure she didn't have the best judgement but still? Sometimes I wonder what world we are living in?


We are living in a very scary world. I don't believe for a minute that this gal just took off for a few days. She is a good mother who wouldn't leave her little girl. She is due to have a baby any day and wanted that baby...had the nursery all ready and the basket beside her bed. She has a good job although I don't know if she was on leave yet or not...still there isn't a reason in the world for her to take off. She also has parents who love her unconditionally and a younger sister who looks up to her. That guy had something on his mind besides deciding if he wanted to be involved in the baby's life...besides, he said he didn't know if it was his or not.

I think this guys whole deal is that they talked for an hour and he left. According to him she would have probably been getting into her car when he left. Personally I think he is full of it. If she told him that she wanted to name the baby after him....last name included which means it would have gone on the baby's birth certificate his mind probably registered CHILD SUPPORT. Depending on what he makes a month he could have ended up paying a hefty sum for a baby that he didn't want and had no intention of being a daddy to.

[fran]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83541

KSDK-Jefferson County Deputies released a new photograph Friday of 26-year-old Amanda Jones. Jones, who is nine months pregnant, disappeared Sunday from the Hillsboro Civic Center.

The new photo was taken on Sunday, the same day Jones disappeared. Authorities hope the recent photograph will help in the search.

The pink top Jones is wearing in the photo is what she had on when she vanished on Sunday. That's when Jones met a male acquaintance in the parking lot of the Hillsboro Civic Center. Family members say he is the father of her unborn child.

Jones' due date is next Tuesday.

Major Denise Lassing with the Jefferson County Sheriff's Department says, "We need to keep in mind that this is still a missing persons report and a missing persons case at this time and not a criminal case. Of course the concern is the pregnancy of Ms. Jones and also the well being of herself and this child. So, it is of great concern that she is nearing her due date and is still not around and or has not been located."

[fran]

Personally I think he is full of it. If she told him that she wanted to name the baby after him....last name included which means it would have gone on the baby's birth certificate his mind probably registered CHILD SUPPORT. Depending on what he makes a month he could have ended up paying a hefty sum for a baby that he didn't want and had no intention of being a daddy to.

Last night on Rita Crosby they had Amanda's mom and sister on. The sister said this guy has told the family several different stories about this meeting.

You're right, IMO, 'he is full of it.'

JMHO
fran

[Beyond Belief]

Geez he can't get a story straight. How much intelligence does it take to say the same lie? Whats with this guy?

[TisHerself]

Last night on Rita Crosby they had Amanda's mom and sister on. The sister said this guy has told the family several different stories about this meeting.

You're right, IMO, 'he is full of it.'

JMHO
fran
Amanda has been gone over a week she went to meet this guy it's obvious he did something to her. I really should read about this but I don't have much time, have they questioned him? Are the FBI involved? He did not do this by himself someone helped him, she was nine months pregnant, she was not a small girl someone knows something.

[fran]

Amanda has been gone over a week she went to meet this guy it's obvious he did something to her. I really should read about this but I don't have much time, have they questioned him? Are the FBI involved? He did not do this by himself someone helped him, she was nine months pregnant, she was not a small girl someone knows something.

I don't recall if the FBI is involved but I do know they've questioned the father of the child and he said when he left, she was in her car talking on her cell phone. Now, I would like to know if LE checked this out? I bet they did and already know the answer.

Just like with the LaToyia Figueroa case, LE is working behind the scenes and they have their 'hunches.' Also like in the other case, LE doesn't want to tell the public what investigative tools they're using right now, so we'll just have to wait.........and wait.........and wait...... :innocent:

Gosh, I hope she's ok. :(

JMHO
fran

[Beyond Belief]

I wish they would find her. I had so hoped she just went away for short time to get her thoughts together, but too much time is passing.

[fran]

I wish they would find her. I had so hoped she just went away for short time to get her thoughts together, but too much time is passing.

That's exactly what I had hoped for LaToyia too. :( ........actually, the first night I heard about Laci, I thought (to myself), 'oh, they probably got in an argument and she just wanted to cool off.'

I hope this time we're right. She's 'just getting her thoughts together.' But, it doesn't look good, IMO.

JMHO
fran

[Beyond Belief]

That's exactly what I had hoped for LaToyia too. :( ........actually, the first night I heard about Laci, I thought (to myself), 'oh, they probably got in an argument and she just wanted to cool off.'

I hope this time we're right. She's 'just getting her thoughts together.' But, it doesn't look good, IMO.

JMHO
fran
I am so tired of this, its just getting to obvious that this is the way this goes.

[PrayersForMaura]

Yup, father of the child has a "GIRLFRIEND" ... guess what ... SHE has lawyered up now, TOO :furious:

I'm telling ya, I have a very strong hunch :::just my opinion:::
that this guy asked amanda to get into his car, she grabbed her purse, put her keys and cell phone in, got innocently into his car thinking they were going to lunch, and the girlfriend jumps up from the back seat and either puts some sort of gas on a handkercheif over her mouth to knock her out or strangles her from behind. Something is up with those two.
Lawyering up so soon? Hogwash. :doh:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83596

"A nine-month pregnant woman doesn't just disappear like that. Somebody has to have seen or know something, they're just afraid to say," said Bertha Propst, Amanda's mother.


Jefferson County police tell NewsChannel 5 that the girlfriend of the man Jones went to meet last Sunday has hired an attorney. They continue to follow up on more than 150 leads in connection with the disappearance.

[mysteriew]

As a symbol of hope, Amanda Jones' family, friends and co-workers released purple balloons. Amanda's father Hubert Propst says, "Purple is my daughter's favorite color, she loves purple, purple anything, she's a purple fanatic."

The 26-year-old Pevely woman was last seen one week ago, in the parking lot of the Hillsboro Civic Center. Family members say she came to meet with the father of her unborn son. Police later found her car at the civic center, but no sign of Amanda.
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83596

[PrayersForMaura]

http://wb11tv.trb.com/kplr-news-082105-3,0,1999748.story?coll=kplr-home-1

She is due to deliver her baby today. Sunday night there was still no sign of Amanda Jones.

The pregnant 26-year old Peveley woman disappeared without a trace over a week ago. Friends and family held a candlelight vigil Sunday night at the Civic Center in Hillsboro, where she was seen. They hope it sheds light on her whereabouts. "Each day I wake up it gets harder," said Amanda's mom, Bertha Propst. She couldn't hold back the tears.

[fran]

Yup, father of the child has a "GIRLFRIEND" ... guess what ... SHE has lawyered up now, TOO :furious:

I'm telling ya, I have a very strong hunch :::just my opinion:::
that this guy asked amanda to get into his car, she grabbed her purse, put her keys and cell phone in, got innocently into his car thinking they were going to lunch, and the girlfriend jumps up from the back seat and either puts some sort of gas on a handkercheif over her mouth to knock her out or strangles her from behind. Something is up with those two.
Lawyering up so soon? Hogwash. :doh:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83596

"A nine-month pregnant woman doesn't just disappear like that. Somebody has to have seen or know something, they're just afraid to say," said Bertha Propst, Amanda's mother.


Jefferson County police tell NewsChannel 5 that the girlfriend of the man Jones went to meet last Sunday has hired an attorney. They continue to follow up on more than 150 leads in connection with the disappearance.

And just how was he going to meet Amanda and have lunch and then meet this woman? :doh:

Both of them have attornies!!! :rolleyes:

This guy is talking to police through his attorney! :loser:

(from earlier reports)He said he was meeting Amanda for lunch, yet he says they talked for about 1/2 an hour in the parking lot and then he drove away and she was in her car on her cell phone. Is that why her purse and cell phone are missing? Now we find out he met with another woman the same day!??:eek:

I'm beside myself. What is, was, he thinking? IF he did this, he's not going to get away with it! Someone's watching him......:bang:

JMHO
fran

[PrayersForMaura]

And just how was he going to meet Amanda and have lunch and then meet this woman? :doh:

Both of them have attornies!!! :rolleyes:


I don't think that this what that line meant.
I *think* that line met that the girlfriend of the guy Amanda was supposed to meet with hired an attorney.... meanign the girlfriend hired the attorney, not that he was going to meet with her... but I'm sure he met with her, too ... I have a feeling she was involved.

[Beyond Belief]

I'd love to know the coversation between those two.

I know theres not a chance in h*ll, but I sure hope he said something that ticked her off and she did a disappearing act. She's too darn responsible to do something like that, but I am going to hope anyway.

[concernedperson]

I don't think that this what that line meant.
I *think* that line met that the girlfriend of the guy Amanda was supposed to meet with hired an attorney.... meanign the girlfriend hired the attorney, not that he was going to meet with her... but I'm sure he met with her, too ... I have a feeling she was involved.

I could be jumping the gun on this but it doesn't sound like a good ending and it does sound like there is complicity on those two. It also sounds like the same kind of circle as Latoyia's situation. Amanda's family must be at wits end now........ :furious:

[Beyond Belief]

Is anybody beside me feeling some anxiety about Amanda? i wonder if they can confirm her car was exactly in the same spot she parked it in or if it had been moved. Could she had been driven away in her own car and it returned there without her?


Everytime i see the words written in these cases "missing without a trace", it just seems so ridiculous. They put people at the scenes of crimes with one fingerprint, what aren't we/they seeing in these cases. I wonder if they even checked her car for someone else's fingerprints.

[Bobbisangel]

Is anybody beside me feeling some anxiety about Amanda? i wonder if they can confirm her car was exactly in the same spot she parked it in or if it had been moved. Could she had been driven away in her own car and it returned there without her?


Everytime i see the words written in these cases "missing without a trace", it just seems so ridiculous. They put people at the scenes of crimes with one fingerprint, what aren't we/they seeing in these cases. I wonder if they even checked her car for someone else's fingerprints.


I want to know why two "innocent" people needed to retain attorneys. Why in the world would his girlfriend need an attorney for pity sake. I believe they are both guilty of murder. I'll bet LE believes the same thing and are just gathering evidence...tailing him and the girlfriend...doing whatever LE does when they suspect a person or people but need facts to nail them. At least I hope that is what they are doing. This case is so obvious.

[englishleigh]

I want to know why two "innocent" people needed to retain attorneys. Why in the world would his girlfriend need an attorney for pity sake. I believe they are both guilty of murder. I'll bet LE believes the same thing and are just gathering evidence...tailing him and the girlfriend...doing whatever LE does when they suspect a person or people but need facts to nail them. At least I hope that is what they are doing. This case is so obvious.

DOUBLE murder, at that!! :furious: :furious: Poor Amanda. :(

[Tom'sGirl]

I don't think that this what that line meant.
I *think* that line met that the girlfriend of the guy Amanda was supposed to meet with hired an attorney.... meanign the girlfriend hired the attorney, not that he was going to meet with her... but I'm sure he met with her, too ... I have a feeling she was involved.
the quote from the article says "Jefferson County police tell NewsChannel 5 that the girlfriend of the man Jones went to meet last Sunday has hired an attorney. They continue to follow up on more than 150 leads in connection with the disappearance."

From that I took it to mean that she hired the attorney for her boyfriend, not for herself.

[lostfaith]

I want to know why two "innocent" people needed to retain attorneys. Why in the world would his girlfriend need an attorney for pity sake. I believe they are both guilty of murder. I'll bet LE believes the same thing and are just gathering evidence...tailing him and the girlfriend...doing whatever LE does when they suspect a person or people but need facts to nail them. At least I hope that is what they are doing. This case is so obvious.

Although I agree with you that these two, more than likely, were involved somehow, I disagree that "why "innocent" people needed to retain attorneys." I think getting an attoryney, even if you are innocent, it is the smart thing to do.

[cheko1]

Good thing they both lawyered up..........sounds like they're both going to need lawyers. Give them a rope long enough & they'll hang themselves. :behindbar

I think both of them are deeply involved. Can bet they're using each other as excuses.

[Bobbisangel]

Although I agree with you that these two, more than likely, were involved somehow, I disagree that "why "innocent" people needed to retain attorneys." I think getting an attoryney, even if you are innocent, it is the smart thing to do.


Why in the world would the guy's girlfriend need an attorney? That makes no sense to me. I can understand the guy getting an attorney as he is the last person to see Amanda but his girlfriend :confused:

[TisHerself]

Yup, father of the child has a "GIRLFRIEND" ... guess what ... SHE has lawyered up now, TOO :furious:

I'm telling ya, I have a very strong hunch :::just my opinion:::
that this guy asked amanda to get into his car, she grabbed her purse, put her keys and cell phone in, got innocently into his car thinking they were going to lunch, and the girlfriend jumps up from the back seat and either puts some sort of gas on a handkercheif over her mouth to knock her out or strangles her from behind. Something is up with those two.
Lawyering up so soon? Hogwash. :doh:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83596

"A nine-month pregnant woman doesn't just disappear like that. Somebody has to have seen or know something, they're just afraid to say," said Bertha Propst, Amanda's mother.


Jefferson County police tell NewsChannel 5 that the girlfriend of the man Jones went to meet last Sunday has hired an attorney. They continue to follow up on more than 150 leads in connection with the disappearance.
Maura Sadly you were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean about the girlfriend you said it from the beginning.

[lostfaith]

Why in the world would the guy's girlfriend need an attorney? That makes no sense to me. I can understand the guy getting an attorney as he is the last person to see Amanda but his girlfriend :confused:

Your right, I agree, that seems a little strange.



UNLESS.....this just crossed my mind......she knows something and is co-operating with the police, but there is not enough evidence against him, so they are waiting and watching. Didn't Scott Peterson's girlfriend, Amber, obtain a lawyer? Forgive me if I am wrong, I did not follow that case very closely, but I thought I remember her having a lawyer since she was providing evidence against him.

[PrayersForMaura]

Maura Sadly you were right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean about the girlfriend you said it from the beginning.
I just have a feeling. i hope I'm wrong. I remember the Texas Cadet murder and this just reminds me a little of that, where the girlfriend tells the boyfriend "we'll just have to kill her".

I just feel so bad for Amanda Jones. I want to drive around and look for her. :(

[Beyond Belief]

I just have a feeling. i hope I'm wrong. I remember the Texas Cadet murder and this just reminds me a little of that, where the girlfriend tells the boyfriend "we'll just have to kill her".

I just feel so bad for Amanda Jones. I want to drive around and look for her. :(I do too, Maura, it makes you want to jump on a plane to there and start combing the area. When I am not tied down with making a living, I think I'll start participating in those type of search groups.

About getting a lawyer, I don't know what I would really do in those circumstances, but I do know I am not match for a professional interrogater. I say such dumb things sometimes I would probably make a big mess out of it by myself.

[lisafremont]

On the subject of innocent people lawyering up....The fact is that when you are telling the truth your story is consistent and doesn't keep changing. And the cops are pretty good at spotting truthtellers and those with a line of bull.

Years and years ago I got a call from an FBI agent who wanted to speak to me. He came to my apartment (and I looked closely at his ID, btw) and said that my phone number was found in the address book of a man whose body was found in a trunk of a car parked in the longterm lot at JFK airport. :eek:

He showed me a photo lineup, as I recall and I couldn't identify any of the men in it. Honestly.

I didn't recognize the name of the man who died. And the FBI guy asked me to speculate how my phone number could have been in this guy's possession.

I shrugged. Maybe I HAD met him and had given him my number. I used to work as a waitress (long ago) in a bar and met lots of people. It's possible I gave him my number but I hadn't dated him. I was sure of that. It was mystifying and disturbing.

But I was telling the absolute truth. And he believed me.

[PrayersForMaura]

Ya know, I know Amanda is no "Laci" or "Natalee" but it is very nice to see that the FBI is involved and that the local news here is staying on this and that the helicopters are flying overhead and that the infrared lights were being used to detext body heat. This case will be solved sooner than most.

I'm editing this to add: my first line is referring to the attention that the national media is giving to Natalee and had given to Laci. Local media here has kept up with Amanda, as has the FBI and the local LE. Greta had done a little bit too... not enough in my opinion.

[ketel0ne]

How can there be so little news about this case? 150 leads is alot in the area Amanda is from.

[Jodibug]

just looking for any new developments.....

[PrayersForMaura]

How can there be so little news about this case? 150 leads is alot in the area Amanda is from.
There was a lot of news last week, I thought. I think LE knows who did this and that sadly, there is a crime. It's just a matter of finding the bodies :(
LE doesn't seem to want to comment much more to hinder the case. The guilty parties know they are toast, which is why they both lawyered up. Just my opinion.

I really believe arrests are coming soon.
I hope I am not wrong.

[PrayersForMaura]

Police To Give Briefing On Missing Pregnant Woman

created: 8/23/2005 11:49:03 AM
updated: 8/23/2005 11:50:48 AM

- Tuesday, Amanda Jones, 26, is supposed to give birth to a baby boy. But she hasn't been seen in more than a week.

Amanda's parents are expected to attend a media briefing Tuesday where police will make an announcement.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83714

[shellys]

I took someone else to one of the St.Louis County ER's last week, and while we were waiting to be seen, a county police officer came in with a "suspect" in another crime that needed medical treatment. One of the guys at the front desk asked if there was anything new on "the girl". And the cop told him no, and that when they find her it will probably be a body. Now, I don't know if that was just his opinion, or if he knows more, or what. But LE (at least some of them) think the same way we do.

I hope and pray for her daughter, parents, family and friends that she IS found alive. But we all know that just isn't likely.

[PrayersForMaura]

Tuesday afternoon, her family offered a $100,000 reward for anyone who gave them information that helped them find her and anyone who may have harmed her.

17 officers are working full-time on the case. So far, 125 leads have been followed. 25 to 30 are still open.

We'll have more coverage on NewsChannel 5 at 5 & 6.


http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83714

[Bobbisangel]

Ya know, I know Amanda is no "Laci" or "Natalee" but it is very nice to see that the FBI is involved and that the local news here is staying on this and that the helicopters are flying overhead and t hat the infrared lights were being used to detext body heat. This case will be solved sooner than most.


But Amanda is a "Laci" or "Natalee." She is the beloved daughter of someone and the beloved sister of a younger girl. She is the mother of a little girl and the grandaughter of someone. She is loved and missed and her family is in as much pain as Laci's family and Natalee's family. Amanda has value as a person and had a full life ahead of her. She is also a child of God like Laci and Natalee.

I'm glad the FBI is involved in Amanda's disapperance too. Her baby is due today and if she is alive could be born anytime from today on. I wonder if LE has checked to see if that guy's girlfriend has been seen with a new baby?
I hope those two didn't take the baby and discard Amanda. Probably unlikely but it has happened before. Maybe gave it to someone they know????

[Bobbisangel]

I'm having a hard time trying to figure out why the father of the baby would want to get rid of Amanda. They had had no contact throughout the pregnancy. Amanda wasn't hounding him. He was a sperm donor. Why would he call her out of the blue and want to meet with her? I wonder if she is the one that called him instead? Maybe she didn't want her family to know that she had called him and wanted to talk to him so she told them a story about a couple in a red car and that he wanted to talk to her?????

It was said that she wanted to get his permission to name the baby after him.
How did that come up out of the blue when they hadn't had any contact at all? Did she just come up with that idea after she supposedly heard from him?

I just wonder if Amanda didn't contact him as the baby was due soon. She may have been hopeing that he would want to be a part of the baby's life and maybe of her life too. He may have baulked at the whole idea and she may have let him know that he would support the baby regardless and he exploded. He has a girlfriend and might not have wanted the complications of Amanda and the baby.

This is all "maybe's" of course but it is the only thing that makes sense to me.

[Beyond Belief]

None of this really makes sense. I wonder if there were any other gentlemen in her life. I used the word gentlemen because I think this "lady" had gentlemen in her life. The description of the child's room waiting for the new arrival said volumnes to me.

[Beyond Belief]

Greta interviewing on amanda (amanda's brother, i think)

Met the father at xmas party. one night stand. baby's father not employed
checking the hospitals
unlikely to leave on her own
baby's father co operating through a lawyer
she made a cell phone call at 1 that afternoon.
there were some confusing comments. baby's father said she was on the phone for 3 hours. said he took her to lunch, then said he didn't take her to lunch. things in the car are the things she bought that day.

hmmm

[SieSie]

I just now heard about this missing woman on either Fox or MSNBC (hubby was flipping) - I posted a thread in the Jury Room to hopefully draw more people to this thread here. I have a lot of reading to catch up on, but right off the bat with the few articles I've read, I'm suspicious of the unborn baby's father, also! No interest for 9 months and then calls and wants to see her? Hmmmm - sounds hinkey to me.

[Beyond Belief]

Hmmm. I wonder if she had that same conversation with some other guy also? If this was just a casual thing, maybe there was someone else in her life. Maybe theres somebody in the background we haven't heard about? Mr. Unknown might be the culprit their looking for?

[PrayersForMaura]

Hmmm. I wonder if she had that same conversation with some other guy also? If this was just a casual thing, maybe there was someone else in her life. Maybe theres somebody in the background we haven't heard about? Mr. Unknown might be the culprit their looking for?
I think it would be too slim a chance to be someone else.

[PrayersForMaura]

Hmmm ... what's the difference between "suspect" and "person of interest"??

"Police also said Tuesday that the man who Jones was going to meet, the father of her unborn child, is not a suspect, but is a person of interest. They said the same thing about that man's girlfriend.
"


http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83714

[SieSie]

Snipped - But Amanda is a "Laci" or "Natalee." She is the beloved daughter of someone and the beloved sister of a younger girl. She is the mother of a little girl and the grandaughter of someone. She is loved and missed and her family is in as much pain as Laci's family and Natalee's family. Amanda has value as a person and had a full life ahead of her. She is also a child of God like Laci and Natalee.

:clap: :blowkiss: So well said, thank you Bobbisangel!

[PrayersForMaura]

Snipped -

:clap: :blowkiss: So well said, thank you Bobbisangel!
Oh I totally agree with both of you... I was being sarcastic towards the media. Sorry, i thought more people would've understood what I meant. I've been follwoing Amanda's case from day one and care a great deal about her.
I hope no one thought I meant something otherwise.

[PrayersForMaura]

Reward offered for clues in case of missing pregnant woman
Jefferson County (KMOV) -- The family of a missing pregnant woman, due to give birth today, is now offering a $100,000 reward.

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/M_IMAGE.10543a66c1a.93.88.fa.7c.8c0d70f0.jpg KMOV

Amanda Jones




Amanda Jones, 26, was last seen in Hillsboro over a week ago.



An anonymous donor stepped forward to offer the reward.

Jones was due to have her baby today.

She was last seen alive on Sunday August 14th at the Hillsboro Civic Center on Highway 21 talking to a man that her family says is the father of the baby.

The sheriff now tells News 4 that the man is not a suspect, but the sheriff says he does have a keen interest in him and his girlfriend.



more at link: http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov_localnews_050823_jonesreward.a1e1a6d5.html

[Bobbisangel]

Reward offered for clues in case of missing pregnant woman
Jefferson County (KMOV) -- The family of a missing pregnant woman, due to give birth today, is now offering a $100,000 reward.

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/M_IMAGE.10543a66c1a.93.88.fa.7c.8c0d70f0.jpg KMOV

Amanda Jones




Amanda Jones, 26, was last seen in Hillsboro over a week ago.



An anonymous donor stepped forward to offer the reward.

Jones was due to have her baby today.

She was last seen alive on Sunday August 14th at the Hillsboro Civic Center on Highway 21 talking to a man that her family says is the father of the baby.

The sheriff now tells News 4 that the man is not a suspect, but the sheriff says he does have a keen interest in him and his girlfriend.



more at link: http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov_localnews_050823_jonesreward.a1e1a6d5.html


Hopefully the sheriff is saying that the guy isn't a suspect just to throw the guy off. Like they did with LaToyia's baby's dad. The sheriff's keen interest in the guy and his girlfriend will put LE on them like a hound dog on a trail.
LE will end up arresting him or them sooner or later.

When Amanda's brother was on Greta tonight he said that the guy said Amanda was talking on the phone for 3 hours and he left and then came back.
He said that he took her to lunch and then he didn't.

Cell phone records show that Amanda was on her cell phone at 1:00 for a couple minutes. There haven't been any more calls since then...no credit cards or bank accounts used. Wasn't Amanda meeting this guy at 1:00? She probably called someone right before he arrived. The guy is guilty as sin.

This guy sounds like a real winner.....lowlife.

[PrayersForMaura]

Police and relatives say Jones went to Hillsboro to meet with Bryan Lee Westfall, the man her family says is the father of her baby, a boy.

Sheriff Oliver "Glenn" Boyer said on Tuesday that the man has been giving "limited cooperation" to authorities by speaking with police through his attorney.

Boyer said Westfall "is a key person in our investigation because he was the last person, through his own admission, to have seen her."

Westfall's attorney, Kevin Roberts, has said his client "has done nothing wrong."

Boyer said investigators had been speaking with a woman through her attorney. That woman was with Westfall the night after Jones disappeared, Boyer said.


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/FF3FBE217089C3E286257067000EF832?OpenDocument

[PrayersForMaura]

Amanda's parents say their daughter seemed distressed and preoccupied during her last known cell phone conversation with a family member, but they remain convinced Jones did not leave on her own. "Let me tell you something, she didn't walk away on her own. She could hardly walk," said Hubert Propst. Police say cooperation from the man believed to be the baby's father and his current girlfriend has been limited. "We're talking to them through an attorney. They've been cooperative but it's been through an attorney," said Sheriff Boyer.

The family says they have no conflicting information other than there is cooperation. They are also getting support from throughout the community. The search for Jones has gained national attention. "Oh yeah, everybody's talking about it," said one resident. "Just how sad and unfortunate it is," said a woman who works in Hillsboro. "Everybody's talking about it, but nobody knows any information about where she is," said a nearby resident.

http://wb11tv.trb.com/kplr-news-082305-4,0,2720647.story?coll=kplr-home-1

__________________________________________________ __________

This is the first I had heard about this.

[PrayersForMaura]

Some of my friends and I are going to look with our friends and dogs and just start searching the area for the next several days to try to find Amanda. I don't know if there are any other local search efforts going on independent of those of family and LE but if anyone is interested, let's get something organized.

I'm guessing rivers or fields ... there's lots of those around the area.
Unfortunately there's also lots of wild animals, so if Amanda is deceased, there may not be much left of her, and I would hate to think of that.

Let's hope and pray she is still alive.

[MsPooh]

If I weren't so far away I would be fist in line to help with the search, I will definetly be praying for You,Amanda and her family.Good Luck.

[TisHerself]

PrayersForMaura,
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your friends. Prayers that Amanda is found. My heart goes out to her family.

[PrayersForMaura]

Police Search Property of Father of Missing Pregnant Woman's Unborn Child (http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83803)
KSDK-Jefferson County authorities have searched the property of Brian Westfall, the man who would be the father of Jones' unborn child. Some items taken from the property were sent to the Missouri Highway Patrol lab for forensic analysis.

Sheriff Glenn Boyer says Westfall is not a suspect, but is a person of interest. He says Westfall and his attorney have been cooperating with police. Police have previously said the same about Westfall's girlfriend.

:(

[PrayersForMaura]

Authorities search a home in the case of a missing pregnant woman (http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/kmov_localnews_050824_missingwomansearch_.a6e5b965 .html)(KMOV) -- Authorities investigating the disappearance of a pregnant Pevely, Missouri woman searched a home near Hillsboro this afternoon.


Police searched the home of Bryan Lee Westfall this afternoon in Morese Hill, Missouri. He is the father Amanda Jones’ unborn baby.
The sheriff said several items were seized from the home.
Police are calling him a person of interest.

[PrayersForMaura]

My guess --- they were waiting to opbtain search warrants. Don't those sometimes take days?

[shellys]

I was just getting logged in to post this new information-PFM beat me to it.
I can't imagine that it took a week to get the search warrant, but I suppose it is possible. Maybe there wasn't enough just cause until now? I remember the investigator (on the news) saying that they took some evidence, but that there was no "smoking gun"-although I doubt they'd tell if there was!
Keeping Amanda and family in my prayers...............

[ambyuk]

I have to say I am extremely glad the FBI got involved. I live literally directly across the street from the civic center. 32 apartments in this apartment community directly face the parking lot of the civic center (mine included). Monday morning I expected a knock on the door from a police officer canvassing the area. Nothing.

Thursday they announced that the FBI was involved. I said to my husband that night, perhaps they'll be smart enough to canvas the apartments now? What do you know, bright and early the next morning a police officer knocked on the door. So she went missing Sunday, they waited until Friday to ask if anyone here saw anything. :confused:

I'm unable to help with the search since I have a 3 week old baby (this case hits quite close to home), but as far as I know they're not calling for or allowing citizens to volunteer yet. Each time they mention searching it's only after the fact and it only refers to firemen/police officers searching.

I used to go to the local college. I started shortly after Bryan Westfall was hired. I also worked there, so I saw him/dealt with him fairly often. On one hand I hope it *was* him, because the prospect of this being a random attack is very scary (since 3 weeks ago it could have been me). On the other hand, I hope it *wasn't* him, because the thought that someone capable of murder was walking among us at school is really scary also.

In any case, I truly hope and pray that Amanda is found alive and safe. However sadly not many people around here are counting that as a possibility anymore.

[Tom'sGirl]

I have to say I am extremely glad the FBI got involved. I live literally directly across the street from the civic center. 32 apartments in this apartment community directly face the parking lot of the civic center (mine included). Monday morning I expected a knock on the door from a police officer canvassing the area. Nothing.

Thursday they announced that the FBI was involved. I said to my husband that night, perhaps they'll be smart enough to canvas the apartments now? What do you know, bright and early the next morning a police officer knocked on the door. So she went missing Sunday, they waited until Friday to ask if anyone here saw anything. :confused:

I'm unable to help with the search since I have a 3 week old baby (this case hits quite close to home), but as far as I know they're not calling for or allowing citizens to volunteer yet. Each time they mention searching it's only after the fact and it only refers to firemen/police officers searching.

I used to go to the local college. I started shortly after Bryan Westfall was hired. I also worked there, so I saw him/dealt with him fairly often. On one hand I hope it *was* him, because the prospect of this being a random attack is very scary (since 3 weeks ago it could have been me). On the other hand, I hope it *wasn't* him, because the thought that someone capable of murder was walking among us at school is really scary also.

In any case, I truly hope and pray that Amanda is found alive and safe. However sadly not many people around here are counting that as a possibility anymore.
Thanks so much for filling us in on some added information ambyuk. It's always so helpful when someone in an immediate area of a crime to give up reports as those of us in other states who aren't even hearing of this on our local T.V. stations.

You have the advantage of the layout of the area, and I hope if you have the time can keep us posted on any developing news.

[Bobbisangel]

My guess --- they were waiting to opbtain search warrants. Don't those sometimes take days?


Not if there is a good reason for a search and LE have a good reason as he was the last person to see Amanda. I think LE can get a search warrent in a matter of hours in an emergency. I don't know why it would have taken this long to obtain a warrent. Especially with Amanda due any minute and without meds.

[emmcee]

Thanks Ambyuk for the first-hand on-site report.

Has a picture of Westfall been published? I haven't seen one, but perhaps I've just missed it. Maybe he's not involved, but right now the finger seems to be pointing at him.

[Bobbisangel]

Some of my friends and I are going to look with our friends and dogs and just start searching the area for the next several days to try to find Amanda. I don't know if there are any other local search efforts going on independent of those of family and LE but if anyone is interested, let's get something organized.

I'm guessing rivers or fields ... there's lots of those around the area.
Unfortunately there's also lots of wild animals, so if Amanda is deceased, there may not be much left of her, and I would hate to think of that.

Let's hope and pray she is still alive.



That is wonderful. I wish I lived there so I could go with you. Wouldn't it be something if you found her....alive. Do you have search dogs? How will you get Amanda's scent? Keep us posted please when you can. Lots of prayers will be going up.

[Tom'sGirl]

Some of my friends and I are going to look with our friends and dogs and just start searching the area for the next several days to try to find Amanda. I don't know if there are any other local search efforts going on independent of those of family and LE but if anyone is interested, let's get something organized.

I'm guessing rivers or fields ... there's lots of those around the area.
Unfortunately there's also lots of wild animals, so if Amanda is deceased, there may not be much left of her, and I would hate to think of that.

Let's hope and pray she is still alive.
Luck to you and others who will join you in the search.

Stay safe!

[Bobbisangel]

I have to say I am extremely glad the FBI got involved. I live literally directly across the street from the civic center. 32 apartments in this apartment community directly face the parking lot of the civic center (mine included). Monday morning I expected a knock on the door from a police officer canvassing the area. Nothing.

Thursday they announced that the FBI was involved. I said to my husband that night, perhaps they'll be smart enough to canvas the apartments now? What do you know, bright and early the next morning a police officer knocked on the door. So she went missing Sunday, they waited until Friday to ask if anyone here saw anything. :confused:

I'm unable to help with the search since I have a 3 week old baby (this case hits quite close to home), but as far as I know they're not calling for or allowing citizens to volunteer yet. Each time they mention searching it's only after the fact and it only refers to firemen/police officers searching.

I used to go to the local college. I started shortly after Bryan Westfall was hired. I also worked there, so I saw him/dealt with him fairly often. On one hand I hope it *was* him, because the prospect of this being a random attack is very scary (since 3 weeks ago it could have been me). On the other hand, I hope it *wasn't* him, because the thought that someone capable of murder was walking among us at school is really scary also.

In any case, I truly hope and pray that Amanda is found alive and safe. However sadly not many people around here are counting that as a possibility anymore.


Thanks for the information. What did Bryan Westfall do at the college? What kind of a person did he seem to be....friendly...arrogant...quiet...etc????

[ambyuk]

I must have missed the message about doing a search, PrayersforMaura. I can't physically search but please e-mail me if I can help in any way, even just to give me a contact # so I can pass it on to anyone who may be interested in helping you.

Here's a picture of Bryan Westfall I found through Google's image search. It's from the college's website.
http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/pictures/bwestfal.jpg

He was an instructor of Computer Information Systems. Seemed nice enough, I do remember some people saying they didn't really like him though but I heard that about almost everyone on campus from SOMEONE in my building (administrative).

[ambyuk]

Oh I also wanted to thank you for the informative thread. I found this doing a Google search to try and get as much information on the case as possible. There's lots of info here I wouldn't have found by myself. Not that my measly brain can put all the pieces together anyway but I still like to know as much as possible.

We bank at Eagle Bank also so Amanda is familiar to me, meaning I've seen her when I was in the bank. So sad to think she is gone.

And I forgot to add before, that I seriously considered calling the police on Tuesday to suggest that they canvas the apartments, but in a small town like this it's kind of difficult, since the police might have thought I was trying to do their job for them. You definitely want to stay on the right side of LE.

I really can't believe no-one saw anything. The family keeps saying that somebody who drove by had to have seen something! This is a busy road, and the parking lot is clearly visible. I wonder if there are people out there who don't keep up with the news and don't know she's missing?

[PrayersForMaura]

I must have missed the message about doing a search, PrayersforMaura. I can't physically search but please e-mail me if I can help in any way, even just to give me a contact # so I can pass it on to anyone who may be interested in helping you.

Here's a picture of Bryan Westfall I found through Google's image search. It's from the college's website.
http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/pictures/bwestfal.jpg

He was an instructor of Computer Information Systems. Seemed nice enough, I do remember some people saying they didn't really like him though but I heard that about almost everyone on campus from SOMEONE in my building (administrative).
He look very very familiar.
For some reason, I pictures him to look like something completely different.

I read somewhere that he is unemployed. Is he a student teacher?
A student? Did he get fired?

I just want to gather some friends and people localy to do a search of our own but I don't want to interfere with LE.
I have awful fears.
If she's in the water, it will be tough to find her.
If she's in the field, or on a farm, then animals may have gotten to her.

Thanks so much for the picture and inside info.
I just fell in love with Amanda and her family from the news coverage.
I heard that Amanda had the baby's room all ready to go.

This is so sad. I hope "child support" isn't the reason why Amanda is missing.
:(

[ambyuk]

JeffCo let a lot of people go... "early retirement" was forced on a LOT of people. I don't know if he was in with that cull. I am going to call my old boss tomorrow just to enquire, not that it will help the case in any way but I'm curious now that you asked. I'm pretty sure he didn't leave of his own accord. I remember reading that somewhere.

Where exactly are you planning to search? E-mail me if you can, I'd like to discuss the specifics of your plans to see if I can help. But obviously we don't want to bore people here with our talk about the fields of Jefferson County. :)

He lives south of here so I'm guessing that's where you'd head?

I know what you mean about falling in love with her from the news coverage. She seems like such a genuinely nice, loving person. :(

[ketel0ne]

Thanks ambyuk for posting the pic, we used it in a post about the case and credited back to websleuths forums.

This case has to be solved!

[SieSie]

Oh I totally agree with both of you... I was being sarcastic towards the media. Sorry, i thought more people would've understood what I meant. I've been follwoing Amanda's case from day one and care a great deal about her.
I hope no one thought I meant something otherwise.

I understood, PFM :blowkiss: , I just wanted to :clap: Bobbisangel's well-written post.

ETA: After reading the rest of the thread, I wanted to welcome Ambyuk and thank her for her local knowledge - it really does help to those of us who live in other states and don't get the news coverage to keep informed.

Also, PFM - good luck with the search efforts :blowkiss:

[mysteriew]

I must have missed the message about doing a search, PrayersforMaura. I can't physically search but please e-mail me if I can help in any way, even just to give me a contact # so I can pass it on to anyone who may be interested in helping you.

Here's a picture of Bryan Westfall I found through Google's image search. It's from the college's website.
http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/pictures/bwestfal.jpg

He was an instructor of Computer Information Systems. Seemed nice enough, I do remember some people saying they didn't really like him though but I heard that about almost everyone on campus from SOMEONE in my building (administrative).

If this guy is doing computers- there may potientally be a lot of info about him on the web. We need to get some of the sleuthers who are so good at web searches on this. Has anyone contacted planethuff.com about this case to see if you can get him interested?

[PrayersForMaura]

Parents of missing pregnant woman finger baby's father

The parents of Amanda Jones are not mincing words about their daughter's disappearance. They know what happened to their daughter, they said in a Wednesday interview.


"The last person to see her was the father of her baby -- Bryan Westfall," Hubert Probst said.

When asked if Jones informed Westfall of her pregnancy when she learned she was expecting, her father said Westfall knew.


"She told him, and he said, 'I don't want a thing to do with you or the baby,'" Probst said.

Jones and Westfall had not seen each other since that conversation, Probst said, until the morning of her disappearance.
"The morning of the abduction, he called her and said, 'We've got to meet,'" he said. "I'm not stupid. I wasn't born yesterday."

....


"I want people to search their heart," he said. "If they know something and don't do what is right, then they're just as guilty and going to have to answer to a higher power."

http://www.kmov.com/topstories/stories/082405ccjrkmovjonesparents.a83bcbfe.html

[PrayersForMaura]

My boyfriend said that pigs will eat a body very, very quickly. :(
He said that's where the saying comes from "greedy as a pig".

I know this sounds very bad, but supposedly LE checked Westfall's property. I know there are farms out there ... are there pig farms?

Oh no. :(

[PrayersForMaura]

http://www.foxktvi.com/dynamic/images/stories/news/20050815-amanda.jpg SEARCH FOR WOMAN TAKES NEW TURN The search for a missing pregnant woman from Jefferson County takes a new turn as investigators focus on two pieces of property owned by the man her relatives say is the father of the unborn child. Westfall's denial comes after the sheriff--for the first time--classifies him as a person of interest in the case. Westfall also questions whether he is the father of Jones' unborn son. Investigators confirm both aerial and canine assisted ground searches of Westfall's vehicle, home and property. They're releasing few details about what they've found. Jones' sister says early in her pregnancy, Westfall told her he wanted her to have an abortion. Westfall's attorney says that's not true...

More at link: http://www.foxktvi.com/

[emmcee]

"Police investigating the disappearance of a pregnant woman from Pevely searched the home and farm Wednesday of a man who authorities believe was the last person to see her.

Police also said publicly for the first time that they suspect foul play in the disappearance of the woman, Amanda Jones. She was last seen Aug. 14 on the horse show grounds of the Hillsboro Civic Center on Highway 21 in central Jefferson County."

More here: http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/934D8CE6117052E18625706800124815?OpenDocument

[mysteriew]

I must have missed the message about doing a search, PrayersforMaura. I can't physically search but please e-mail me if I can help in any way, even just to give me a contact # so I can pass it on to anyone who may be interested in helping you.

Here's a picture of Bryan Westfall I found through Google's image search. It's from the college's website.
http://www.jeffco.edu/vt/bus/pictures/bwestfal.jpg

He was an instructor of Computer Information Systems. Seemed nice enough, I do remember some people saying they didn't really like him though but I heard that about almost everyone on campus from SOMEONE in my building (administrative).

LOL, you made it to the blogs-
From a poster at Websleuths, who found this picture on Google images, which seems to be of Bryan Westfall, the last person with Amanda Jones before she disappeared.

http://www.missingabducted.com/

[Bobbisangel]

Jones and Westfall had not seen each other since that conversation, Probst said, until the morning of her disappearance.
"The morning of the abduction, he called her and said, 'We've got to meet,'" he said. "I'm not stupid. I wasn't born yesterday."


He isn't stupid about what????? That she won't sock him for child support???
This info just came out but what was the rest of the conversation?

I wonder if there even was a conversation about a young couple in a red car? It sounds to me like he called her and was upset and said "We've got to meet." He must have felt threatened in some way. What else could it have been but child support? He probably felt that he didn't owe her a thing as it was a one night stand and he sure didn't count on becoming a father because of a one night stand with someone he could care less about.

He doesn't look like a killer.....does he? Just shows how deceiving looks can be. I wonder if LE got a search warrent for the girlfriends home and vehicle?
Did they search his vehicle. I know LE said that he allowed them to do a walk through and then a search but what about his vehicle? What about his property...outside. I think I read that he has a farm. Any old wells on his property.

[WholeLottaRosie]

Hi - I have been following this as I live in the Metro Area and just saw this on KSDK's website -

-Authorities in Jefferson County are reconstructing a timeline for when Amanda Jones was last seen.

Jones is the 26 year old pregnant women who vanished Sunday, August 14th. Her family says she was meeting with the man she said was the father of her unborn baby, and that the two were to discuss the child's last name and the father's responsibility.

The timeline authorities are looking at includes a three hour time gap reported by Amanda's father, Hubert Propst.


rest of story -


http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83858

[mysteriew]

Wow, medusa- great post! Thanks for the update! And Welcome to Websleuths!

[dr dona]

I have a great solution for all these guys who have sex with someone and than get upset when they find out they're going to be daddies- keep it zipped up or covered up!!! Hate to be crude. Lacey, Yolanda amd now this missing pregnant girl. Seems like the husband, boyfriend , es-boyfriend or sperm donor is always the number one person of interest!!

[ketel0ne]

http://www.missingabducted.com/wp-content/hillsborocivic_01.jpg
All reports of the case of Amanda Jones have the area above as the last location she was known to be at. Thanks to a source for the address of the Civic Center: 10345 Hwy 21, Hillsboro, MO. We hope this gives readers a better feel for the terrain, and layout of the area.

Thanks to Google Earth for the image.

[ambyuk]

Just to clarify, not that it truly matters, but in that image it marks the civic center inaccurately. Where it says "21", on the left side of the map, is one of the roads leading into the civic center. I could circle the actual civic center building, which is what they were parked outside. It's on the left at about te level of the circle around the "21". The entire complex on the left is the horseshow grounds, where they hold the county fair, rodeos, etc.

So now you can all see where I live! You can tell why I was surprised that we weren't canvassed earlier.

[ketel0ne]

Just to clarify, not that it truly matters, but in that image it marks the civic center inaccurately. Where it says "21", on the left side of the map, is one of the roads leading into the civic center. I could circle the actual civic center building, which is what they were parked outside. It's on the left at about te level of the circle around the "21". The entire complex on the left is the horseshow grounds, where they hold the county fair, rodeos, etc.

So now you can all see where I live! You can tell why I was surprised that we weren't canvassed earlier.
Thanks for the clarification, edited and re-uploaded.

[Bobbisangel]

Why in the world would that guy say that he left Amanda at 2:00 and she was on her cell phone and then he came back at 5:00 and she was still on the phone. Not to bright if you ask me. Doesn't he know that cell phone records can be checked?????

That farm that him and his parents own or live on is 300 acres from what I understand. The places to hide or bury a body are endless. Sounds to me like the need to take some search dogs out there and see what happens. I'll bet she is there somewhere. He would know what areas are used and the areas that no one ever goes to where she would be the least likely to be found.

[motokidz101]

I have been reading these messages for a couple of days now and I would just like to say something. Amanda is a quiet and shy person, who doesn't not date much, nor does she sleep around. This was just one of those things, she was lonely and one thing led to another. She had not been seeing or sleeping with anyone else for almost three months prior to the night she was with Brian. Brian is the father without a doubt.

[PrayersForMaura]

Man details meeting missing pregnant woman

When Amanda Jones, the missing pregnant woman from Pevely, first told Bryan Lee Westfall that she was expecting, he denied that the child was his, according to his attorney, Kevin Roberts.

That was in January, Roberts says, and Westfall didn't hear from Jones again until earlier this month, when Jones contacted him to talk about the birth of the child she expected to deliver this week.


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/EF55FF8088B11345862570690017E177?OpenDocument


I've been hearing that he contacted her out of the blue. regardless, i still think he did something to her and i am still worried about the possibility of pig farms :(

[mysteriew]

I have been reading these messages for a couple of days now and I would just like to say something. Amanda is a quiet and shy person, who doesn't not date much, nor does she sleep around. This was just one of those things, she was lonely and one thing led to another. She had not been seeing or sleeping with anyone else for almost three months prior to the night she was with Brian. Brian is the father without a doubt.


Thank you for posting that motokidz101. I hope you don't feel that we are judging Amanda. We usually only get a mention of an item in article, but very few hints of what the actual person was like. Thank you for giving us a better picture of Amanda. She is certainly not the first to have a lonely moment, nor will she be the last. And you have given us a lot of insight into her personality. I know from what I have read, it sounded like she was very happy about the new baby. How are you and her other friends holding up? It is very frustrating when there is a missing person. You feel like you should do something, but don't really know where to start. Do you know if there are any searches going on in the area? Or any planned?
Do you also know Brian Westfall? Can you give us any insight into him?
Again, thank you for posting today, and please keep us updated if you can. Feel free to keep posting, we would love to hear from you.

[ambyuk]

I left a message for my old boss. If she calls me back I will let you know if she has any insight to Bryan Westfall.

[motokidz101]

I don't really feel like anyone was judging Amanda. It is not anything that anyone of us would assume of anyone who is in this situation. I just felt that I needed to let people know that that is not who she is.
The LE are not asking for volunteers to search. My husband has called almost everyday. However, he has some unofficial searching on his own.
As for Brian, I did not know him. I only know what I have heard from some people who have met him. They all say he and his whole family is weird. And yes, this is all very frustrating. We are all trying to hold out hope, but we also know the reality of the situation. I just hope it ends soon and we can get some closure. The longer we have to wait the more frustrated and angry everyone gets. Thanks for allowing me to get some of these things out. It actually helps a little.

[PrayersForMaura]

is this westfall related to buzz westfall, the politician?

[junebug]

I don't know if this has been posted already. I live in this area, and I HEARD a RUMOR that bulldozer noises were heard by that farm that night. Again, just rumor, but I certainly wouldn't disregard the info.

[WholeLottaRosie]

I have been wondering if he was related to the late Buzz Westfall (long time county executive of St. Louis County who died of a staph infection a year or two ago), but was thinking if he was, someone in the St. Louis media would have said that.

That saying she was on the cell phone struck me too. They can check that. I thought I read somewhere (would have been Post or one of the tv stations) that the officer in charge said the records showed it was used after one oclock Sunday when she spoke to a family member, but they didn't say which one.

If she contacted him earlier in the week, he sure had plenty of time to plan something.

[WholeLottaRosie]

KSDK-We now know who is providing the 100-thousand dollar reward in the Amanda Jones case.

Joe Mammana has never met Jones' family. In fact, he doesn't even live in Missouri. But he's no stranger to helping families of those missing and victims of crime.

Earlier this week, Mammana appeared on MSNBC to discuss Amanda Jones and other missing people cases. The 46 year old Philadelphia egg company owner says he's donated millions of his own money in hundreds of cases over the years including Natalie Holloway and Philadelphia mom-to-be Latoya Figuerora, whose boyfriend was recently arrested for her murder.

For rest of story -http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83899

[concernedperson]

KSDK-We now know who is providing the 100-thousand dollar reward in the Amanda Jones case.

Joe Mammana has never met Jones' family. In fact, he doesn't even live in Missouri. But he's no stranger to helping families of those missing and victims of crime.

Earlier this week, Mammana appeared on MSNBC to discuss Amanda Jones and other missing people cases. The 46 year old Philadelphia egg company owner says he's donated millions of his own money in hundreds of cases over the years including Natalie Holloway and Philadelphia mom-to-be Latoya Figuerora, whose boyfriend was recently arrested for her murder.

For rest of story -http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83899


This reinforces me in every way. He is just the most wonderful of all human beings to reach out and try to assure that these crimes will be solved and he does this without provocation.A true American hero!!!

[Bobbisangel]

KSDK-We now know who is providing the 100-thousand dollar reward in the Amanda Jones case.

Joe Mammana has never met Jones' family. In fact, he doesn't even live in Missouri. But he's no stranger to helping families of those missing and victims of crime.

Earlier this week, Mammana appeared on MSNBC to discuss Amanda Jones and other missing people cases. The 46 year old Philadelphia egg company owner says he's donated millions of his own money in hundreds of cases over the years including Natalie Holloway and Philadelphia mom-to-be Latoya Figuerora, whose boyfriend was recently arrested for her murder.

For rest of story -http://ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83899



What a big heart this man has to step forward and help people that he hasn't ever even heard of before. This is what movie stars, etc, could do instead of
using their names and money for causes that aren't even important in the big
big picture.

[WholeLottaRosie]

What a wondeful, generous person. This is what I would do if I had the money.

[less0305]

My boyfriend said that pigs will eat a body very, very quickly. :(
He said that's where the saying comes from "greedy as a pig".

I know this sounds very bad, but supposedly LE checked Westfall's property. I know there are farms out there ... are there pig farms?

Oh no. :(


Pigs even eat other pigs fairly readily from what I understand.

[SewingDeb]

What a big heart this man has to step forward and help people that he hasn't ever even heard of before. This is what movie stars, etc, could do instead of
using their names and money for causes that aren't even important in the big
big picture.

Bless him. I saw him on TV today and I was so impressed. He has a really big heart and luckily, the wallet to match.

[concernedperson]

Bless him. I saw him on TV today and I was so impressed. He has a really big heart and luckily, the wallet to match.

And whether or not his wallet matches he is upfront and personal. More than the Hollywood types. This is just someone who cares about people not about their ratings.

[mysteriew]

Philadelphia Man: Why I Posted $100,000 To Help Find Amanda Jones

Joe Mammana has never met Jones' family. In fact, he doesn't even live in Missouri. But he's no stranger to helping families of those missing and victims of crime.



Mammana is also posting a reward for Julie Popovich who is also listed in our forum. http://www.wcpo.com/news/2005/local/08/24/missing_bounty.html
He has usually started out as an anonymous donor, and would only become known after he sends the money. I wish there was some way we could send him some notice of our appreciation of his efforts. What do you all think?
After all everyone likes to know they are appreciated.

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I wish there was some way we could send him some notice of our appreciation of his efforts. What do you all think?
After all everyone likes to know they are appreciated.I think that's a wonderful idea. Let me know what you all think is appropriate, and you can count me in.

[Bobbisangel]

I think that's a wonderful idea. Let me know what you all think is appropriate, and you can count me in.


I think that is a great idea too. He knows how much the families that he helps appreciate him but it would be nice to let him know that others are paying attention and appreciate what he is doing. He will get his rewards in heaven for sure.

[Tom'sGirl]

I think that is a great idea too. He knows how much the families that he helps appreciate him but it would be nice to let him know that others are paying attention and appreciate what he is doing. He will get his rewards in heaven for sure.
I third that......great Idea!

Just because someone is loaded doesn't mean they are good people who want to help such a noble cause like Mr. Mammana.

Unfortunately so many who could never in their lifetime ever spend their fortunes don't help ANYONE BUT THEMSELVES.

[mysteriew]

When Amanda Jones, the missing pregnant woman from Pevely, first told Bryan Lee Westfall that she was expecting, he denied that the child was his, according to his attorney, Kevin Roberts.

That was in January, Roberts says, and Westfall didn't hear from Jones again until earlier this month, when Jones contacted him to talk about the birth of the child she expected to deliver this week.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/EF55FF8088B11345862570690017E177?OpenDocument

Timeline Shows Gap In Disappearance Of Amanda Jones

Authorities in Jefferson County are reconstructing a timeline for when Amanda Jones was last seen.

Jones is the 26 year old pregnant woman who vanished Sunday, August 14th. Her family says she was meeting with the man she said was the father of her unborn baby, and that the two were to discuss the child's last name and the father's responsibility.

The timeline authorities are looking at includes a three hour time gap reported by Amanda's father, Hubert Propst.

Here's the timeline:
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83858

[mysteriew]

Ariel just started a thread in the jury room, asking people to make suggestions on ways to thank people like Mr. Mammana. Please stop in and post any ideas or suggestions. Thanks.
http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=782491#post782491

[mysteriew]

Tom'sGirl, and Jersey Girl you both have pm's. Bobbisangel, I tried to pm you, but you are full, lol.

[keljayem]

I live in the area in question, maybe 12-15 minutes from the Civic center, and all of 3 minutes from Walgreens in Festus. I happen to have had Westfall for a computer class in 2001. He never struck me as odd, irritable, or anything negative. As a matter of fact he was friendly, and seemed intelligent. I guess you never know about a person.

As to the question of farms- there are many in the area. And yes, pigs eat anything including bones. You can walk through a pigpen unscathed, but if you fell into one for any reason, you wouldn't walk out. They are strong, tough animal with an endless appetite.

In regards to the reward donor- I like the guy. He strikes me as a straight shooter, who doesn't like the idea of coddling criminals. We need more folks like him.

I hope they find this lady....

[mysteriew]

I live in the area in question, maybe 12-15 minutes from the Civic center, and all of 3 minutes from Walgreens in Festus. I happen to have had Westfall for a computer class in 2001. He never struck me as odd, irritable, or anything negative. As a matter of fact he was friendly, and seemed intelligent. I guess you never know about a person.

As to the question of farms- there are many in the area. And yes, pigs eat anything including bones. You can walk through a pigpen unscathed, but if you fell into one for any reason, you wouldn't walk out. They are strong, tough animal with an endless appetite.

In regards to the reward donor- I like the guy. He strikes me as a straight shooter, who doesn't like the idea of coddling criminals. We need more folks like him.

I hope they find this lady....

Welcome to Websleuths! Thank you for posting about Brian Westfall. Any insights we can get are helpful. Did you know Westfall outside of the class?
I take it you are following the case. Did you know Amanda? Are there any thoughts or opinions you would like to share with us?

[keljayem]

Thanks for the welcome:)

I did not know him outside of class. Like I said, he seemed very personable. He ran a fun class, we all interacted alot, but he made sure we understood the material. We always joked with him that he looked like Ross from "Friends". I knew that several women in the class thought he was attractive, but he was always professional.

His families farm is located near my inlaws farm, in fact my father in law knows Bryans father. He doesn't know him well, but he told me that he works for Grandview schools, which are loacted off Y highway.

I have been following the case, but the outlook grows more grim every day. I just hope whoever did this is brought to justice.

[PrayersForMaura]

Missing woman's mother tells story, maintains hope

Bertha Propst sits at her kitchen table, patiently answering questions from a reporter about her missing daughter Amanda Jones, who was nine months pregnant when she disappeared two weeks ago.

In a tidy yellow house on Highway TT in Festus, she fights back tears and tells her story.

She has told her story to police, to relatives and friends and a seemingly endless parade of local and national media.

She talks about her daughter and hopes for the best.


Propst uses words like "joyful, compassionate" and "tenderhearted" and says she believes Amanda is still out there, somewhere, possibly being held against her will.

"She's going to come home," Propst said. "They're going to find her. I believe that."

People that Propst hasn't heard from in 10 years, old classmates from Amanda's 1996 class at Herculaneum High School, call on the telephone to express their concern and ask what the family needs.

"Prayers," she says. "That's all we need right now."



She was giddy about the prospect of having another baby, said Sonya Smith, a neighbor in the Kenmon Valley mobile home park where Jones, a loan administrator at Eagle Bank, lived with her daughter.




Westfall's attorney, Kevin Roberts, says Jones called Westfall in January to tell him that she was pregnant and that the child was his. Westfall didn't believe her, the lawyer said.

Roberts says Jones and Westfall had no further contact until about Aug. 9, when she called to tell him she was due to deliver. Roberts said the two of them had agreed to meet Aug. 14 at the Civic Center.

Propst said her daughter had told her she wanted to talk to Westfall to find out whether he wanted to be part of his son's life. She wanted to know whether she should give the boy Westfall's last name or her own, Propst said.

Friends and relatives say Jones was particularly excited the morning before she disappeared. Her mother described her as "very excited, very bubbly." Propst and her daughter joined their family that Sunday morning, as they did every week, for a service at Calvary Assembly of God in Festus.

Shortly after noon, the service had ended. Propst and Jones walked out of the church and parted in the parking lot.

That was the last time Propst saw her daughter.

"We were standing at the car, and she told her little girl to go with Grandma, she'd be back in a couple of hours, and she hugged and kissed me and said, 'Mom, I'll see you in a couple hours.'"

Propst and her husband, Hubert Probst, started to worry when they didn't hear from their daughter. That evening Hubert Propst called Westfall to see if he knew where she was. Around 9 p.m., they called police.

Now, two weeks later, sitting at her kitchen table, Bertha Propst says her granddaughter is asking where her mom is. Bertha Propst doesn't know but says she talks to her daughter's photo.

"I tell her just to hang in there, that we're going to find her and bring her home."


http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/60054A894DF59DBC8625706A00324A81?OpenDocument

[Mabel]

That's odd. According to the article P for M posted above, Westfall's attorney says it was Amanda who initiated the contact. Everything I've read before says that Westfall contacted Amanda.

What happened to the couple in the red car who told Westfall to call Amanda?
What happened to the claim that it was his idea to meet at the Civic Center?

[Bobbisangel]

When Amanda Jones, the missing pregnant woman from Pevely, first told Bryan Lee Westfall that she was expecting, he denied that the child was his, according to his attorney, Kevin Roberts.

That was in January, Roberts says, and Westfall didn't hear from Jones again until earlier this month, when Jones contacted him to talk about the birth of the child she expected to deliver this week.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/EF55FF8088B11345862570690017E177?OpenDocument

Timeline Shows Gap In Disappearance Of Amanda Jones

Authorities in Jefferson County are reconstructing a timeline for when Amanda Jones was last seen.

Jones is the 26 year old pregnant woman who vanished Sunday, August 14th. Her family says she was meeting with the man she said was the father of her unborn baby, and that the two were to discuss the child's last name and the father's responsibility.

The timeline authorities are looking at includes a three hour time gap reported by Amanda's father, Hubert Propst.

Here's the timeline:
http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83858

The creep has changed his story again. He now says that Amanda contacted him. I believe that is probably the true story. I think maybe Amanda didn't want her parents to know that she had made the arrangements to meet with the jerk instead of him calling her.

As there hadn't been any contact between them since she told him she was pregnant I doubt if he would have rocked the boat by calling Amanda and asking to meet with her.

I still believe that it all narrows down to his paying child support for a baby that he didn't want and had no intentions of being a father to. You can tell by the remarks that he made in a newspaper article that something was being said that he didn't like. Maybe she told him that she wouldn't go after him for support and he answered..."I'm not a fool or I'm not stupid or I wasn't born yesterday...." Sounded like he didn't believe whatever she was telling him. He could have been denying that the baby was his too.

Whatever happened between them it looks like he decided to take both Amanda's life and the baby's life. He'll be caught and sent to prison...and what the heck did he think he would gain????

[PrayersForMaura]

The creep has changed his story again. He now says that Amanda contacted him. I believe that is probably the true story. I think maybe Amanda didn't want her parents to know that she had made the arrangements to meet with the jerk instead of him calling her.

As there hadn't been any contact between them since she told him she was pregnant I doubt if he would have rocked the boat by calling Amanda and asking to meet with her.

I still believe that it all narrows down to his paying child support for a baby that he didn't want and had no intentions of being a father to. You can tell by the remarks that he made in a newspaper article that something was being said that he didn't like. Maybe she told him that she wouldn't go after him for support and he answered..."I'm not a fool or I'm not stupid or I wasn't born yesterday...." Sounded like he didn't believe whatever she was telling him. He could have been denying that the baby was his too.

Whatever happened between them it looks like he decided to take both Amanda's life and the baby's life. He'll be caught and sent to prison...and what the heck did he think he would gain????
Agree with what you're thinking here, but wanted to clarify that he wasn't the one who said in the quote "i am not stupid" and i wasn't born yesterday. Amanda's father is saying that.
Just wanted to clarify.

[Beyond Belief]

Did anyone take lie detector tests in this case?


I can't believe there has been no news on Amanda.

[PrayersForMaura]

It's been two weeks since Amanda Jones disappeared and tonight, investigators continue to follow leads in the case.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=83923

[PrayersForMaura]

FYI -- I was going to do my own search with some friends and was told that no area citizens were "Encouraged to get involved in their own searches".

This tells me that she must be located on private property or something.
I can't figure out why else there would be no organized searches and no encouragement to do this?

[mic730]

2 weeks and nothing as to where Amanda is. Due this week I think.
I remember soemthing with Sharon Rocha that as Laci's due date came and went with no sign of Laci her hope was minimal.
I feel for Amanda and her family.
This sounds like another tragic case.

[SewingDeb]

And whether or not his wallet matches he is upfront and personal. More than the Hollywood types. This is just someone who cares about people not about their ratings.

Exactly. We need more people like this.

[SewingDeb]

He isn't stupid about what????? That she won't sock him for child support???
This info just came out but what was the rest of the conversation?

That threw me, too. I think the I'm not stupid remark was her father speaking about himself.

[motokidz101]

Amanda did call him the Tuesday before she disappeared. She left him a voice mail to call her back. Her parents already knew this. When I talked to her on the night before she disappeared, I asked her if she had heard from him. She had not. She didn't expect to either. She told me that once the baby was born, that she was going to have me call him and tell him that he had a son and what she had named him.
Brian did not deny that he was the father when she first told him. He suggested that she "get rid" of the baby and she said that that was not a possibility. She only contacted him to let him know that it was going to be a boy. She believes that every child should have both parents in their lives. She never wanted any type of relationship with him at all. She just hoped that he had changed his mind about the baby. I believe that he said something to her on that morning to suggest that he had changed his mind, otherwise she would not have gone alone and not been exicited about going to meet him. He did call on that morning and initiate the meeting.

[Bobbisangel]

Amanda did call him the Tuesday before she disappeared. She left him a voice mail to call her back. Her parents already knew this. When I talked to her on the night before she disappeared, I asked her if she had heard from him. She had not. She didn't expect to either. She told me that once the baby was born, that she was going to have me call him and tell him that he had a son and what she had named him.
Brian did not deny that he was the father when she first told him. He suggested that she "get rid" of the baby and she said that that was not a possibility. She only contacted him to let him know that it was going to be a boy. She believes that every child should have both parents in their lives. She never wanted any type of relationship with him at all. She just hoped that he had changed his mind about the baby. I believe that he said something to her on that morning to suggest that he had changed his mind, otherwise she would not have gone alone and not been exicited about going to meet him. He did call on that morning and initiate the meeting.


How I wish that Amanda had never made that Tuesday phone call. I understand that she wished that creep to be a part of the baby's life but by not contacting her throughout the pregnancy it seems pretty clear that he wanted no part of the baby's life whether it was a boy or girl. It's hard to say what went through his mind after he received the message from Amanda. Evidentally he felt threatened in some way by her contacting him or after they talked and he made a decision. I still believe it boils down to this creep being determined not to pay child support for a baby that he didn't want. So many of these creeps make the decision to get rid of the mother and baby to avoid child support these days. They think that is the answer to their "problem." Then they find out that all it gets them a life in prison or the death penalty. This creep will get caught too. He's no smarter than the rest of them.

I hope that Amanda is found. I can't imagine the pain and frustration her family is feeling. The baby is due and no sign of their daughter or sister. And I think of the little girl growing up without her mom. I'm thankful that she has Amanda's family and her dad. It sounds like Amanda's parents and the ex have a good relationship. I hope they do anyway.

[lisafremont]

She believes that every child should have both parents in their lives. She never wanted any type of relationship with him at all....

Those two thoughts are mutually exclusive, IMO. It's a tremendous shame that Amanda made some really poor choices and it looks like they have really cost her and her daughter and all the people who love her. It's inexpressably sad.

And when I think that she placed herself and her baby in a really dangerous way, I recall that Laci Peterson was in a long-term marriage to a man she loved (and thought she knew) when she was also killed for the crime of bearing a child.

It's just so tragic. All of it. What a waste.

[PrayersForMaura]

Just remember ... it is never the victim's fault that they get killed. :(

I just heard from my friend whose family member works for a local news station that Westfall owns an airplane. He could have flown somewhere and dumped her body anywhere. :(

Hence, why there aren't more local searches.
Or ... she is buried somewhere on his farm.

It is quite possible that Amanda may never be found. :(

[ambyuk]

Oh I hope she is found. The worst thing is when a person remains missing, no-one can ever get closure. :(

[fran]

I just heard from my friend whose family member works for a local news station that Westfall owns an airplane. He could have flown somewhere and dumped her body anywhere. :(
:(

:( No wonder LE wants to know about those missing three hours. :mad:

Bet they already know if he took his plane up that day. :banghead:

Sorry, it's becoming more clear what happened here. :waitasec: ohhhhhhh, IMHO.

JMHO
fran

PS.....there was another case where the guy thought he'd get away with throwing her out the plane....... :snooty: didn't work, got caught ...fran

[PrayersForMaura]

:( No wonder LE wants to know about those missing three hours. :mad:

Bet they already know if he took his plane up that day. :banghead:

Sorry, it's becoming more clear what happened here. :waitasec: ohhhhhhh, IMHO.

JMHO
fran

PS.....there was another case where the guy thought he'd get away with throwing her out the plane....... :snooty: didn't work, got caught ...fran
yeah, I hope they've checked the flight records for that day.
As far as I know -- and I am quite ignorant about aviation -- all flights, whether they be small planes, large planes, whatever, have to be recorded. I believe there needs to be permission to take off?

[mysteriew]

As far as what I have heard (I am not a pilot, so don't know for sure) but as far as I am aware, before the plane leaves the field they have to file a flight plan. Not sure how stringently that is enforced at a small field. I do know they are having to become stricter about monitoring flights since 9-11.

[motokidz101]

we have been told the plane did not take off on sunday. fyi. . .ii have been told that if a plane takes off and lands on a private runway they do not have to file a flight plan.

[fran]

we have been told the plane did not take off on sunday. fyi. . .ii have been told that if a plane takes off and lands on a private runway they do not have to file a flight plan.

Do you know if he keeps his plane at an air field? :confused:

IMO, if he lives on a farm, he could have a private landing runway.

JMHO
fran

[libraryg]

I think they need to get the scent dogs on this plane asap.....that will certainly be telling!

[Txmom]

My father had several airplanes when I was a teenager. I at this point could not imagine Westfall getting a dead body into one. While Im not saying that he couldnt, the doors on the small planes are some what ackward to get into. Im trying to visualize opening the door and lifting the body up into the plane. He would have to be quite strong, and she quite small. Or he had help. And a very preg. woman would be even more ackward to pickup and get into the plane.

While its true that he could have put her into the luggage area of the plane, he would have to have auto pilot on his small plane, and then he would have to be able to crawl and climb all the way to the back of the plane and push the body out. Not impossible, but small planes are just that, very small. I remember the interior being tight, more space inside a Toyota Carolla, or a Honda Civic then some of the small planes that Ive been on.

In the small planes, say the ones that only hold 2-5 people. I dont remember really being able to open the doors very easily when you are up in the air. I remember a friend decided to go flying one afternoon, decided to throw his cup of soda out the door and the drink immediately flew back and srayed all sitting in the back.

I agree though, get the dogs out.

And one could even check the pig pen....we've had pigs (my kids love raising them). The pigs ate ANYTHING, but the bones they left behind.

[motokidz101]

I believe the plane is kept on the property and with 750 acres it is possible that he has a private runway

[mysteriew]

I believe the plane is kept on the property and with 750 acres it is possible that he has a private runway

You had stated in an earlier post that the plane had not been flown. If it is on private property- how do they know it wasn't used?

[fran]

I believe the plane is kept on the property and with 750 acres it is possible that he has a private runway

BINGO! ;)

Txmom: In the case I mentioned earlier in my 'PS,' the guy tried to say there was no way he could have flown the plane and throw out a body at the same time; but the pros was able to show it was possible. That along with the circumstantial evidence was enough to convince a jury. He was found guilty. :bang:

mysteriew, "You had stated in an earlier post that the plane had not been flown. If it is on private property- how do they know it wasn't used? "

Bet LE hasn't eliminated the possibility. :cool:

JMHO
fran

[Jodibug]

Just checking for updates.

[motokidz101]

That is what the LE are wsaying. Personally, I don't know how they would know if a plane took off from 750 acres.

[Bobbisangel]

I think she is buried on that farm somewhere. He had acres and acres to choose from. How in the world could they take dogs out and cover that much acreage? She may never be found.

I feel so bad for Amanda's family. The LE are wondering about the 3 hours but that creep probably left the Civic Center with Amanda at 1:15 or 1:30 and never went back. It is his word that he left around 2:00 and went back at 5:00. That doesn't even make any sense. Why would he have gone back? He says she was talking on her cell phone when he left and still on it at 5:00?
Doesn't he know they can check cell phone records!! It sounds like she was probably talking on the phone when he arrived..around 1:00...according to her cell records.

We may never know for sure what happened to Amanda or why he did such a thing. Just makes me sick.

[CrimeHater]

I don't think he is claiming that he ever left. Earler post say that he was working around the civic center wrapping up some summer stuff getting ready for the fall. Still it makes no sence that she would be on the phone for three hours. Don't you think he would have found it odd that she was still there.... yet in a different parking area. Why wouldn't he have walked over to her. Maybe even to check and see if she had car trouble. hhmm..... I'm curious as to what was shown on the phone records. I wonder if she ever made a call after there so called meeting. DOUBT IT! :snooty:

[Bobbisangel]

I don't think he is claiming that he ever left. Earler post say that he was working around the civic center wrapping up some summer stuff getting ready for the fall. Still it makes no sence that she would be on the phone for three hours. Don't you think he would have found it odd that she was still there.... yet in a different parking area. Why wouldn't he have walked over to her. Maybe even to check and see if she had car trouble. hhmm..... I'm curious as to what was shown on the phone records. I wonder if she ever made a call after there so called meeting. DOUBT IT! :snooty:


Her family said that the cell records showed a call around 1:00 to a relative...lasted a couple minutes. That was the last call on her cell phone.

From what I've read the creep says that he left the Civic Center after they had talked for an hour or less and Amanda was on her cell phone. He says he came back at 5:00 and she was still there talking on her cell phone. I think he is full of it. I don't think the police fell for that one...especially when it is so easy for them to check cell phone records.

[lisafremont]

I at this point could not imagine Westfall getting a dead body into one. While Im not saying that he couldnt, the doors on the small planes are some what ackward to get into. Im trying to visualize opening the door and lifting the body up into the plane. He would have to be quite strong, and she quite small. Or he had help. And a very preg. woman would be even more ackward to pickup and get into the plane.

While its true that he could have put her into the luggage area of the plane, he would have to have auto pilot on his small plane, and then he would have to be able to crawl and climb all the way to the back of the plane and push the body out...

I am probably not the only one to mention this, but the crime was committed a few blocks from my home in an apartment building that I have visited hundreds of times.

Dr. Robert Bierenbaum strangled his wife Gail Katz Bierenbaum one Sunday in the 1980s. Late that night he called her parents and claimed she was missing.

What he didn't tell the police in his little story of their arguing, her storming out of the house saying she was going to Central Park to cool off, and then her not returning, his going to New Jersey to visit with friends/family, was that he rented a Cessna that afternoon for a two-hour flight from a NJ private airport!

Gail's body was never found. But years after her disappearance, in 1999, her killer was CONVICTED! Without a body, without a crime scene, without forensic evidence or witness or confession.

But what the prosecution had was enough circumstantial evidence to show that he took her body out to NJ, probably in a duffel bag, and then loaded it into the plane.

The prosecution was prepared to counter the defense argument that one man could not have dumped a body out of a small plane while flying it.

So they produced a video to prove he could. They used an identical plane and a bag containing sand to equal Gail's weight. They video'd how the pilot could have unlatched the passenger door with the duffel in that seat, then banked to the right, causing door to open and bag to fall out. Easy as pie.

I believe they demo'd several different variations, all with the same results: Gail's body vanished.

Dr. Robert Bierenbaum was convicted and currently languishes in a cell courtesy of New York State.

[Gozgals]

Gail's body was never found. But years after her disappearance, in 1999, her killer was CONVICTED! Without a body, without a crime scene, without forensic evidence or witness or confession.

But what the prosecution had was enough circumstantial evidence to show that he took her body out to NJ, probably in a duffel bag, and then loaded it into the plane.

The prosecution was prepared to counter the defense argument that one man could not have dumped a body out of a small plane while flying it.

So they produced a video to prove he could. They used an identical plane and a bag containing sand to equal Gail's weight. They video'd how the pilot could have unlatched the passenger door with the duffel in that seat, then banked to the right, causing door to open and bag to fall out. Easy as pie.

I believe they demo'd several different variations, all with the same results: Gail's body vanished.

Dr. Robert Bierenbaum was convicted and currently languishes in a cell courtesy of New York State.
Lisa: I do agree. I do not buy that one cannot put a body in a small plane and dump it. If one wants to dispose of a body, they can master this PROJECT with planning. He could have packed Amanda up in any type of container, and threw her off the plane. (sad to think of this scenario) Better yet, why not on his farm or the surrounding area. There must be plenty of places to get rid of a body that the police have not uncovered yet.

--I'm not saying that Westfall is the guilty party, but he quacks.

Thanks to our legal system, its nice to know the good Dr. Bierenbaum was convicted and is enjoying his stay in his new home:boohoo:

[fourboys]

Benefit will aid family of missing woman

09/01/2005
By Tim Rowden
Of the Post-Dispatch

Friends of Amanda Jones, the pregnant woman who has been missing for nearly three weeks, are planning a benefit at the Hillsboro Civic Center, the last place she was seen.

The dinner and silent auction will be at 7 p.m. Sept. 15, just over a month from the day the Pevely woman disappeared.

Karen Fink, a longtime friend, says proceeds will benefit Jones' parents, Hubert and Bertha Propst of Festus, who are paying both their own and their daughter's bills while they wait for some word about what happened to her.

Bertha Propst remains hopeful that her daughter and new grandson will be found but worries that their story will fade from the spotlight.

"Right now, we're not only looking for Amanda, but also the baby," Propst said, adding that she believes her daughter is being held somewhere against her will.

"Amanda and her baby could be out there somewhere, waiting for somebody to find her," Propst said.

Lt. Tommy Wright, chief of detectives for the Jefferson County sheriff's office, says investigators are hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.

Wright says police have received nearly 250 tips about Jones' disappearance but still do not know what happened to her.

"We have no physical evidence to lead us to believe that she is dead," Wright said. "We don't have anything to indicate that she walked away. We just don't have anything substantial to put our fingers on."

Jones, 26, was nine months pregnant when she was last seen Aug. 14 at the Civic Center. She was due to deliver a baby boy last week.

A loan administrator at Eagle Bank in Festus and a divorced mother of a 4-year-old daughter, Jones had gone to Hillsboro to meet with Bryan Lee Westfall, the man her family says is the father of her baby.

Police have described Westfall, 36, a farmer and former instructor at Jefferson College in Hillsboro, as a "person of interest" but say they have neither identified nor eliminated anyone as a suspect.

A Philadelphia businessman and philanthropist who saw a news story about the case has posted a $100,000 reward for information leading to an arrest and conviction in Jones' disappearance.

For information on the benefit dinner and auction, call Fink at 314-605-9410.

A fund also has been set up for Jones at Eagle Bank. Contributions to the Amanda Jones Benefit Account can be made at any Eagle Bank location.

Anyone with information about Jones' disappearance is asked to call police at 636-797-5515.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/stlouiscitycounty/story/13ADEE133748F3CF86257070001041C5?OpenDocument

[Bobbisangel]

I wish someone who knows something would decide they would rather have the reward then cover for the killer. Someone like that girlfriend. Of course she won't say a word if she was also involved.

I can understand Amanda's parents holding on to hope. A person would have to inorder to survive this nightmare. I just hope and pray that Amanda comes home one way or the other. Not knowing has to be pure hell.

[motokidz101]

I completely agree. Maybe it will happen soon. The pressure will begin to be too much I'm sure.

[Norma]

Why is Amada's plight not in the news more? Seems the only news stories come direct from her area.

Is she ever discussed by Nancy Grace or Suspender Boy on CNN?

[MrsMush99]

I haven't heard anything about Amanda for quite some time. Nancy was covering it, but hasn't in awhile. I think the Hurricane coverage is taking precedence over everything.

[Beyond Belief]

I really dislike cases like this. It makes me feel how vulnerable we really are. I hope they are able to shed some light on her disappearance soon.

[MrsMush99]

I really dislike cases like this. It makes me feel how vulnerable we really are. I hope they are able to shed some light on her disappearance soon.
I hope so too.

[ambyuk]

Even around here locally I'm not seeing much of anything in the news about her.

[CrimeHater]

I feel that way about most of the cases going on. I bet alot of these perps feel relief with all the Katrina coverage. I just hope they don't get pushed to the back burner. I live in Houston and thats all they have on the news now so I have been looking on here as much as possible hoping for some updates.

[ketel0ne]

Last article I saw had the investigators on stand by waiting for more leads.

[Bobbisangel]

I wish there was some way that they could get the truth out of the baby's father. I know he did something to Amanda and that she is probably on that farm somewhere. LE could put a tail on the guy and let him see them. I wonder how he would take being followed everywhere he goes. Look out your window and there sits a cop....being followed to work...sitting outside the girlfriends house when visiting, etc. Might just frizzle his nerves a bit. I suppose they only do things like that on TV though.

Did LE ever get a search warrent for that farm and take dogs out there?
I can't imagine being Amanda's parents and family. It would be nightmare enough to have your daughter missing but it is their grandchild too. I just wish LE would find Amanda.

[CrimeHater]

Since he doesn't mind one nighters why doens't someone go seduce him, and pour some truth serioum in his drink.

Oh yea, thats another thing only in the movies! :banghead: This guy needs to be caught!!!!

[Jodibug]

just checking for more info.....

[Beyond Belief]

Just checking in.........wish we had some answers.

[munky]

I wish there was some way that they could get the truth out of the baby's father. I know he did something to Amanda and that she is probably on that farm somewhere. LE could put a tail on the guy and let him see them. I wonder how he would take being followed everywhere he goes. Look out your window and there sits a cop....being followed to work...sitting outside the girlfriends house when visiting, etc. Might just frizzle his nerves a bit. I suppose they only do things like that on TV though.

Did LE ever get a search warrent for that farm and take dogs out there?
I can't imagine being Amanda's parents and family. It would be nightmare enough to have your daughter missing but it is their grandchild too. I just wish LE would find Amanda.
Ok, I have been looking at the posts on Amanda's case for a while. I pray she is found soon. I used to be a friend of Bryan's several years back. I am no longer in touch with him at all. Considering the guy I knew, I can't imagine he did something to her. BUT.... I am not a stupid person. I know you can't know everything about a person. Heck, I know there's a whole churchful of people still shellshocked that their friend Dennis is BTK. But I think we all need to realize that there is still a possibility that Bryan did not have anything to do with it, since we just don't know everything about this. Please know that my first concern is for Amanda, Hayden, and their loved ones, and that whoever is responsible is brought to justice.

[Beyond Belief]

thanks for coming in MUNKY. This is so strange. I always believe in innocent until proven guilty. I wonder if any transients had been hanging around in the area prior to the day she went there. The only way I can imagine removing a body from an area like that would be by horse trailer, if not by car. There has to be more to this, than we know, the events of the day just seem to cut and dry.

[munky]

I was wondering more about something I read or heard that Bryan supposedly said two people in a car that he didn't know came to his house to tell him he needed to call Amanda. Does anyone know anything more about this? I know her parents said something like she didn't know anyone that had a car of that description.

I told a friend in KC about this case and she reminded me of the case of the crazy couple who killed the pregnant woman to get her baby. One of the most unthinkable crimes ever. Is there any way this could be a possiblilty for Amanda? It doesn't seem so with what I've heard of the case but you never know.

[Bobbisangel]

There was no signs of a struggle around Amanda's car so if she left that center with someone she must have gone willingly. I would think there would have been some signs as Amanda wasn't a small lady.

I know there have been some strange things happen to others but they are a rarity. Bryan said that he didn't know the couple in the red car either. Unless he talked to them after he talked to Amanda and made arrangements to meet with her they would have no way of knowing he was meeting with her or where..when.. they were meeting. I just wonder if there ever was a couple in a red car. If he did inform this couple that he was meeting with Amanda...he neglected to inform the police.

I think it was Bryan and possibly his girlfriend was involved in some way. I think it is strange that the girlfriend got an attorney. Why would she need one? I've never ever heard of a girlfriend getting a attorney unless she knows something or saw something. Otherwise she is as much of an outsider as we are. Amanda may have made demands on Bryan that he wasn't going have anything to do with...like be a father to the baby and pay child support for the next 18 yrs. He may not have met with Amanda with the intentions of killing her but something happened to her whether planned or accidental.

I guess the bottom line is that Amanda is still missing and it is likely that her and her baby are dead...at someone's hands. They just need to be found and LE can figure out the rest. Her parents need them to be found. I wish LE would take dogs out to that farm.

[Beyond Belief]

I think they should look closely at all phone calls she had received the month prior to this and any notes she made about clients, friends and/or letters she wrote. I just feel like theres someone lurking in the background, not necessarily with the man she met at the center. I can't remember if she was on a tape at the little store she stopped at, but I would like that tape shown to people at the center to see if they recognize anyone on that tape, to see if she was being followed. Something is being missed here. I would even like to know whose car was parked close to hers, when they left, what other cars and/or people did they notice. People see things without even realizing it, especially when walking through a parking lot. Those who attended this event need to be hounded time and time again until some sort of clues start to surface. The truth is there, they just need to keep interviewing and talking until they find it.

[Bobbisangel]

I think they should look closely at all phone calls she had received the month prior to this and any notes she made about clients, friends and/or letters she wrote. I just feel like theres someone lurking in the background, not necessarily with the man she met at the center. I can't remember if she was on a tape at the little store she stopped at, but I would like that tape shown to people at the center to see if they recognize anyone on that tape, to see if she was being followed. Something is being missed here. I would even like to know whose car was parked close to hers, when they left, what other cars and/or people did they notice. People see things without even realizing it, especially when walking through a parking lot. Those who attended this event need to be hounded time and time again until some sort of clues start to surface. The truth is there, they just need to keep interviewing and talking until they find it.


There was a tape at the store she stopped at before she went to the civic center. I didn't realize that there was something going on at the civic center on the day that they arranged to meet there. I know that they met at a Christmas party the previous December. Was there something in a link about an event going on the day they met this last time?

Bryan said that he left Amanda around 2:00 and she was on the phone. Her phone records show her phone wasn't used after around 1:00 when she called a family member. I assume the call was placed while she waited for Bryan to show up as they had arranged to meet at 1:00. He says that he came back to the center at 5:00 and she was still there on the phone. That story doesn't even make sense. Her cell phone records prove that she wasn't on the phone from 2-5:00. So that story isn't true. Why would he make up that story if he has nothing to hide? Someone said that he never left the civic center that he was putting things away, etc. I guess it doesn't matter whether he left or not. He said Amanda was on the phone from 2-5:00 which isn't true. I think he is the #1 suspect.

[*02]

Amanda's story was featured on the Maury show yesterday, her parents were on pleading for any info that anyone has. I hope and pray that they find her soon, alive and well, but I hate to say at this point it doesn't look good. With all of the pregnant women who have disappeared this is becoming an alarming trend in America, I think every state has some nut job who thinks he can get away with murdering an innocent child and their mother just to avoid the "hassle" of dealing with it. It is so sad.

[Gozgals]

Amanda's story was featured on the Maury show yesterday, her parents were on pleading for any info that anyone has. I hope and pray that they find her soon, alive and well, but I hate to say at this point it doesn't look good. With all of the pregnant women who have disappeared this is becoming an alarming trend in America, I think every state has some nut job who thinks he can get away with murdering an innocent child and their mother just to avoid the "hassle" of dealing with it. It is so sad.

Jodieo: I'm sorry I missed that episode. I have been searching and searching for more news on Amanda. My heart is breaking. Wishing there was a break in this case.

I too believe every state has a "NUT JOB," "PSYCHO" who believes they can get away with murdering a woman and her child. I also read that some believe she may have been stolen for the sake of cutting out the baby like another case. The woman who was tracked through her dog breeding. (very sad)
-- I think Ger a Goose loved this one too!
I tend to not believe this theory at all in regard to Amanda's case. I don't think many do.

Wishing this case would end soon-the suffering friends/family of Amanda's must be suffering is intolerable.

Thanks Jodie for making me aware that Maury did have an episode that related to Amanda.
We can only pray this case can be solved quickly and justice will be served.

GOD bless all the women/men/children that are missing.

Gozgals.

[Norma]

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=84593

Investigators in Jefferson County say they've received several leads in the disappearance of a pregnant Pevely, Missouri woman and they hope the public provides other tips.

They are also having a silent auction to help Amanda's parent's cover her bills and care for her daughter.

[Bobbisangel]

In most all cases of murdered pregnant women it is the father of the baby that turns out to be the nut job or psycho. I guess they feel that being in prison for the rest of their lives is better than paying child support for 18 yrs.
Now that is using their common sense!! May they all burn in hell.

I'm glad to hear that Amanda's case is still getting media coverage. I just feel so bad for her parents and siblings...it has to be a 24/7 nightmare not knowing where her and the baby are or what has happened to them. I don't know if I could maintain my sanity if it were my daughter.

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anybody local to the case heard anything new on this?

[ketel0ne]

KSDK) - It was one month ago Wednesday a pregnant Pevely, Missouri woman disappeared.

Jefferson County detectives say despite a $100,000 reward, tips are coming in much more slowly in the case.

Jones was last seen at the Hillsboro Civic Center on August 14, one week before she was due to give birth.

A benefit and silent auction at the civic center is scheduled for Thursday night. All money raised will go to Jones' parents who are paying her bills and caring for her young daughter.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=84782