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FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 01:22 AM
Here's the latest National Hurricane Center Advisory

Eye is 90 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER

HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 25A
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
MIDNIGHT CDT MON AUG 29 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE KATRINA
CONTINUES TO APPROACH THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...
...SUSTAINED HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS NEARING THE SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT MIDNIGHT CDT...0500Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 27.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.5 WEST OR ABOUT
90 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
AND ABOUT 150 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH...AND A
TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS. ON THE
FORECAST TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE VERY NEAR THE
NORTHERN GULF COAST MONDAY MORNING. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE
ALREADY DETERIORATING ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND
NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE
NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN NEAR 160 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE.
SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY PRIOR TO LANDFALL...AND
KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT EITHER CATEGORY FOUR OR
FIVE INTENSITY. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF HIGH-RISE
BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR GROUND
LEVEL.

KATRINA REMAINS A VERY LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. A WIND GUST TO 98 MPH WAS
RECENTLY REPORTED FROM SOUTHWEST PASS LOUISIANA.

THE ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 908 MB...26.81 INCHES.
AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS CURRENTLY
INVESTIGATING KATRINA.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE THIS EVENING OVER SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA...SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHERN ALABAMA...AND OVER THE
FLORIDA PANHANDLE TONIGHT.

REPEATING THE MIDNIGHT CDT POSITION...27.9 N... 89.5 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...160 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 908 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL
HURRICANE CENTER AT 2 AM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT
COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 4 AM CDT.

Magnum PI
08-29-2005, 01:22 AM
(AP) Thirteen surfers had to be pulled to safety Sunday after becoming fatigued in 15-foot seas created by Hurricane Katrina, the U.S. Coast Guard said.

Coast Guard Petty Officer Troy Davis said the rip tides were strong and most of the rescues were 400 to 500 yards off Quintana Beach, about 60 miles south of Houston on the Gulf of Mexico.

Sunday evening, nearby Surfside Beach closed the Surfside jetties that are used by many surfers as a launching point.
I used to surf there...it's a great place because you can ride up to the intercostal waterway, between the jetties, on smooth, clean waves(especially when a hurricane is coming in) from surfside..the officals do not like it though....mpi

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 01:22 AM
My stupid question for the day: This is supposed to be one of the worst storms of the century. What are the chances of a tsumomi after the hurricane?
I asked that, someone said their caused by earthquakes.

Dark Knight
08-29-2005, 01:24 AM
I was thinking more of the rat infestation. They probably are loaded with them along the wharf's, they'll swim up into the houses. Geez, this is going to be a nightmare.
Don't forget fire ants.

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 01:24 AM
Three people died in that traffic trying to leave.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 01:24 AM
I asked that, someone said their caused by earthquakes.

Thank you.

Dark Knight
08-29-2005, 01:25 AM
I used to surf there...it's a great place because you can ride up to the intercostal waterway, between the jetties, on smooth, clean waves(especially when a hurricane is coming in) from surfside..the officals do not like it though....mpi
I'm guessing this was the wrong hurricane to try and get some surfing in beforehand.

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 01:25 AM
Don't forget fire ants.
I am going to have nightmares tonight!

Magnum PI
08-29-2005, 01:25 AM
I asked that, someone said their caused by earthquakes.
there is no need for the "tsumomi" after the hurricane, the work has been done...mpi

Dark Knight
08-29-2005, 01:26 AM
I asked that, someone said their caused by earthquakes.
Or by an impact, of some sort.

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 01:27 AM
rats,snakes,unearthed bodies, and all of that polluted water, throw in the multitude of diseases that could easily develope in the conditions that are going to exist for weeks or longer. This is going to be a nightmare.With the heat and humidity, it is going to be a nightmare. They will need to pump New Orleans out before they will be able to do an adequate removal of bodies, etc..

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 01:29 AM
Do we have any posters who lived in New Orleans or surrounding area?

Magnum PI
08-29-2005, 01:29 AM
I'm guessing this was the wrong hurricane to try and get some surfing in beforehand.
Yep..I have to agree..my friends in the area (those who still have half a brain) have left..there are some real deranged people who won't move, no matter what...what do you do?..mpi

Lauren
08-29-2005, 01:31 AM
Everyone in that vacinty please stay safe. I will say a prayer for you.

Thank you for reading my post.:D

Shadow205
08-29-2005, 01:32 AM
Yep..I have to agree..my friends in the area (those who still have half a brain) have left..there are some real deranged people who won't move, no matter what...what do you do?..mpi
When evacuating people once, if they refused to go we just ask for the name of their next of kin. That usually got their attention

Nore
08-29-2005, 01:33 AM
Please Lord, or Higher Power, protect these innocent people from harm, help the storm to slow down, help the levees to hold, help people and animals get to high ground, help the Superdome to hold up, please watch over our fellow Americans, our comrades, our families. Thank you, amen.

group prayer, group prayer....
------------

God be with them.Amen

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 01:35 AM
the webcam is showing an awful lot of emergency vehicles passing by.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 01:37 AM
the webcam is showing an awful lot of emergency vehicles passing by.

Have you got a link for that cam?

Shadow205
08-29-2005, 01:37 AM
the webcam is showing an awful lot of emergency vehicles passing by.
They are probably heading to where ever they are going to ride out the storm.

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 01:38 AM
http://www.nola.com/bourbocam/

streetcar still pix, click on go live video at top of pix

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 01:40 AM
They are probably heading to where ever they are going to ride out the storm.
two more just flew by.

Magnum PI
08-29-2005, 01:40 AM
I'm guessing this was the wrong hurricane to try and get some surfing in beforehand. I must wholehardedly agree....this is no time for hotdoggin' ...I saw a clip of two surfers walking on the "safe" side of the seawall, and both were slammed to the ground, and even broke one of their boards..no time for follin' around, for sure..I talked to a friend in Pensacola who, as you know, has had their hits...he was feelin' sorry for N.O. people and not even thinking about his plight there...I guess we need to get used to this...I see some real need for some of this military hardware we have been spending soo much of our tax dollars on. We need C 130's lined up, an well as striker and humvees and anything that will float.. screw Baghdad...for the moment..mpi

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 01:45 AM
Prayers for everyone in the path of the storm. I hope when tomorrow or later today as it is, this isn't what we expect. Got to wind down for the night.:silenced:

Tom'sGirl
08-29-2005, 01:47 AM
Prayers for everyone in the path of the storm. I hope when tomorrow or later today as it is, this isn't what we expect. Got to wind down for the night.:silenced:
Good night, or rather good morning BB..............have a good sleep and thank you so much for your info. and help with everyone here, it's appreciated!

royalpurple209
08-29-2005, 01:55 AM
Katrina pushes oil over $70

With global supply tight, cuts in Gulf of Mexico production pushes oil higher.

http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/28/news/international/bc.markets.oil.reut/index.htm

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 01:59 AM
Is it usual to also post tornado watches with a hurricane?
http://www.fox8live.com/www/Weather/Weather.aspx

Tom'sGirl
08-29-2005, 02:02 AM
Is it usual to also post tornado watches with a hurricane?
http://www.fox8live.com/www/Weather/Weather.aspx
No, the wind keeps going on land without the water (hurricane) at some point which becomes a tornado I would think.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 02:04 AM
No, the wind keeps going on land without the water (hurricane) at some point which becomes a tornado I would think.

There are several tornado watches for tonight- expiring at 2am. 1-2 last thru tomorrow.

Tom'sGirl
08-29-2005, 02:06 AM
There are several tornado watches for tonight- expiring at 2am. 1-2 last thru tomorrow.
It's just all so pathetic for those in the path of this damn storm. I think I'll shut down for tonight and watch the tube.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 02:10 AM
G'nite. I am going to locate some webcam sites, so that I can have easy access to check them out tomorrow. Then I will probably head to bed also.

Dark Knight
08-29-2005, 02:13 AM
Is it usual to also post tornado watches with a hurricane?
http://www.fox8live.com/www/Weather/Weather.aspx
There were tornado warnings earlier. Yes, tornadoes happen with hurricanes. Especially relating to the outside bands of the storm, which are basically just severe thunderstorms, which is also, basically, what a hurricane is, a mass of severe thunderstorms rotating around a vortex, at first.

Liz
08-29-2005, 02:49 AM
More than two keep praying. The predictions are 50,000 deaths. This is beyond horrible, keep praying all through the night.


I'm still at it, concernedperson! I'll be praying alot tonight!

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 03:07 AM
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 25B
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA BEGINNING TO TURN
NORTHWARD TOWARD SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA AND THE NORTHERN GULF
COAST...
...SUSTAINED HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS OCCURRING ALONG THE
SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE RUSHED TO
COMPLETION.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 2 AM CDT...0700Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 28.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.6 WEST OR ABOUT
70 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER
AND ABOUT 130 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA.

KATRINA IS NOW MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 12 MPH. THIS MOTION IS
FORECAST TO CONTINUE TODAY WITH A GRADUAL INCREASE IN FORWARD
SPEED. A TURN TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHEAST IS EXPECTED LATER TONIGHT
AND ON TUESDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE
WILL BE VERY NEAR THE NORTHERN GULF COAST LATER THIS MORNING.
HOWEVER... CONDITIONS ARE GRADUALLY DETERIORATING ALONG PORTIONS OF
THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO
WORSEN THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 155 MPH WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS NOW A STRONG CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
PRIOR TO LANDFALL...BUT KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AS
EITHER A CATEGORY FOUR OR POSSIBLY A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE.
WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE
SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA REMAINS A VERY LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. DURING THE PAST HOUR...A WIND
GUST TO 83 MPH WAS REPORTED FROM A UNIVERSITY OF SOUTHERN
MISSISSIPPI BUOY LOCATED JUST EAST OF THE CHANDELEUR ISLANDS...A
GUST TO 75 MPH WAS REPORTED AT GRAND ISLE LOUISIANA...AND A WIND
GUST TO 60 MPH WAS REPORTED IN NEW ORLEANS.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 910 MB...26.87 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.
NOAA BUOY 42040 LOCATED ABOUT 50 MILES EAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER RECENTLY REPORTED WAVES HEIGHTS OF AT LEAST 40
FEET.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

THE TORNADO THREAT AHEAD OF KATRINA IS INCREASING AND SCATTERED
TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE TODAY OVER SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA...
SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHERN ALABAMA...AND OVER THE FLORIDA
PANHANDLE TONIGHT.

REPEATING THE 2 AM CDT POSITION...28.2 N... 89.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH NEAR 12 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...155 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 910 MB.

THE NEXT ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER
AT 4 AM CDT.

FORECASTER STEWART

Magnum PI
08-29-2005, 03:12 AM
There were tornado warnings earlier. Yes, tornadoes happen with hurricanes. Especially relating to the outside bands of the storm, which are basically just severe thunderstorms, which is also, basically, what a hurricane is, a mass of severe thunderstorms rotating around a vortex, at first.
Thanks for your coverage, and the fact you are interested in this at all. Most of us don't get interested until it is too late...and then panic or be real stupid.(got some funny ones for you if this thing ever passes)....mpi

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 03:14 AM
Local Bulletin for Lake Charles, LA

HURRICANE KATRINA LOCAL STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE LAKE CHARLES LA
201 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE KATRINA CONTINUES TO
APPROACH THE NORTHERN GULF COAST...

...SUSTAINED HURRICANE-FORCE WINDS NEARING THE SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA
COAST...

...A HURRICANE WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA
EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER...

...AREAS AFFECTED IN SOUTH-CENTRAL AND SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...
THIS STATEMENT APPLIES TO THE RESIDENTS IN CAMERON...VERMILION...
IBERIA...LAFAYETTE...SAINT MARTIN...SAINT MARY...AVOYELLES...AND
SAINT LANDRY PARISHES...

...WATCHES/WARNING...
A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR SAINT MARY PARISH. A HURRICANE
WARNING MEANS THAT HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED INSIDE THE
WARNED AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24 HOURS. PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE
AND PROPERTY SHOULD ALREADY BE COMPLETED.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA INCLUDING
VERMILION AND IBERIA PARISH. A TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT
TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS ARE EXPECTED INSIDE THE WARNED AREA WITHIN
THE NEXT 24 HOURS. A HURRICANE WATCH MEANS THAT
HURRICANE CONDITIONS ARE POSSIBLE INSIDE THE WATCH AREA...GENERALLY
WITHIN 36 HOURS.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM WEST OF INTRACOASTAL
CITY TO CAMERON LOUISIANA INCLUDING CAMERON PARISH. .

AN INLAND TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS IN EFFECT THROUGH 7 PM MONDAY
FOR AVOYELLES...SAINT LANDRY...SAINT MARTIN AND LAFAYETTE PARISHES.
AN INLAND TROPICAL STORM WARNING MEANS THAT TROPICAL STORM CONDITIONS
ARE EXPECTED TO MOVE INLAND ACROSS THE WARNED AREA WITHIN THE NEXT 24
HOURS.

A FLOOD WATCH IS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY MORNING TO MONDAY EVENING
FOR IBERIA...SAINT MARY...AND SAINT MARTIN PARISHES. THREE TO FIVE
INCHES OF RAIN IS POSSIBLE ACROSS THIS AREA THROUGH MONDAY EVENING
WHICH WILL CAUSE THE POSSIBILITY OF FLOODING IN LOW-LYING AREAS.

...STORM INFORMATION...UPDATED
AT MIDNIGHT...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED NEAR
LATITUDE 27.9 NORTH...LONGITUDE 89.5 WEST...OR ABOUT 168 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH-NORTHWEST NEAR 10 MPH...AND A
GRADUAL TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 12 TO 24 HOURS.
ON THIS TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE NEAR THE NORTHERN
GULF COAST EARLY MONDAY. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY BEGINNING
TO DETERIORATE ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF
COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 160 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH IS LIKELY UNTIL
LANDFALL. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AS A CATEGORY FOUR OR
FIVE.

KATRINA IS A LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS...WINDS GREATER
THAN 74 MPH...EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER.
TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS...WINDS GREATER THAN 39 MPH...EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. A WIND GUST TO 98 MPH WAS RECENTLY REPORTED
FROM SOUTHWEST PASS LOUISIANA.

THE LATEST MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE REPORTED BY RECONNAISSANCE
AIRCRAFT WAS 908 MB...26.81 INCHES. AN AIR FORCE RESERVE UNIT
RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT IS CURRENTLY INVESTIGATING KATRINA.

...PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...
RESIDENTS OF SOUTH-CENTRAL LOUISIANA SHOULD ALREADY BE PREPARED FOR
THE POSSIBLE EFFECTS OF A NEARBY LANDFALLING MAJOR HURRICANE. THE
POSSIBILITY EXISTS FOR DAMAGING WINDS...HIGH STORM SURGE...AND VERY
HEAVY RAINFALL. HOWEVER AT THIS TIME...MANDATORY EVACUATION ORDERS
ARE NOT IN EFFECT FOR ANY PORTION OF SOUTHWEST OR SOUTH-CENTRAL
LOUISIANA.

...TORNADO IMPACTS...
THE MAIN TORNADO THREAT WILL BE ACROSS SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA.
HOWEVER...ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS
SOUTH-CENTRAL LOUISIANA THROUGH MONDAY MORNING.

...STORM SURGE FLOOD AND STORM TIDE IMPACTS...
TIDES ARE CURRENTLY RUNNING ABOUT ONE FOOT ABOVE NORMAL ALONG THE
COAST. KATRINA IS STILL FORECAST TO MAKE LANDFALL JUST EAST OF GRAND
ISLE LOUISIANA. DEPENDING ON THE EXACT TRACK...A STORM SURGE OF 3 TO
5 FEET ABOVE NORMAL IS POSSIBLE ALONG THE COAST NEAR THE MOUTH OF THE
ATCHAFALAYA RIVER. TIDAL SURGE WILL DECREASE TO 1 TO 2 FEET NEAR
SABINE AND CALCASIEU PASSES.

...WIND IMPACTS...UPDATED
ACROSS THE LOWER ATCHAFALAYA BASIN...NORTHEAST WINDS HAVE ALREADY
INCREASED TO 15 TO 25 MPH. SUSTAINED WINDS WILL FURTHER INCREASE TO
20 TO 40 MPH BY 3 AM WITH HIGHER GUSTS IN RAIN SQUALLS...THEN 45 TO
65 MPH TOWARD SUNRISE ON MONDAY. GUSTS TO HURRICANE FORCE WILL BE
POSSIBLE IN THE MORGAN CITY...STEPHENSVILLE AND AMELIA AREA MONDAY
MORNING. TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS WILL BE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE
REMAINDER OF THE ATCHAFALAYA BASIN UP TO HENDERSON AND ACROSS
SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA AS FAR WEST AS CAMERON.

BASED ON THE EXPECTED WIND SPEEDS AND THE NUMEROUS TREES ACROSS THE
LOWER ATCHAFALAYA BASIN...RESIDENTS IN THESE REGIONS ARE URGED TO BE
CAREFUL OF FALLING TREES. REMEMBER...MOST OF THE DEATHS CAUSED BY
KATRINA AS IT CROSSED SOUTH FLORIDA WERE CAUSED BY FALLING TREES.

ON THE COASTAL WATERS NEAR VERMILION AND ATCHAFALAYA BAYS...
NORTHEAST WINDS WERE RUNNING 25 TO 35 KNOTS AROUND 2 AM THIS MORNING.
SUSTAINED WINDS OF 45 TO 55 KNOTS...WITH GUSTS TO HURRICANE
FORCE...WILL SPREAD OVER THE COASTAL WATERS NEAR THE MOUTH OF THE
ATCHAFALAYA AROUND SUNRISE ON MONDAY WITH SEAS UP TO 15 FEET.

ELSEWHERE ACROSS SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA...WINDS WILL INCREASE TO 15 TO
25 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 35 MPH BY MID-MONDAY MORNING. WIND SPEEDS
ACROSS THE ENTIRE REGION WILL BE DECREASING BY MONDAY EVENING.

...RAINFALL...
HEAVY RAINS FROM KATRINA WILL BEGIN TO AFFECT THE COASTAL PARISHES
OF SOUTH-CENTRAL LOUISIANA LATE THIS EVENING. RAINFALL TOTALS FROM
3 TO 5 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE IN THE LOWER PORTIONS OF SAINT MARY AND
SAINT MARTIN PARISHES WHICH MAY CAUSE SOME FLOODING...WHILE RAINFALL
TOTALS FROM 1 TO 3 INCHES ARE POSSIBLE AROUND THE REST OF THE
VERMILION BAY REGION AND THE UPPER PORTIONS OF THE ATCHAFALAYA BASIN.
THE HEAVY RAINS WILL BEGIN TO TAPER OFF MONDAY EVENING.

LESSER RAINFALL AMOUNTS CAN BE EXPECTED ACROSS THE REMAINDER OF
SOUTHWEST LOUISIANA.

Magnum PI
08-29-2005, 03:34 AM
There were tornado warnings earlier. Yes, tornadoes happen with hurricanes. Especially relating to the outside bands of the storm, which are basically just severe thunderstorms, which is also, basically, what a hurricane is, a mass of severe thunderstorms rotating around a vortex, at first.
It is, right now, errie and calm, like calm before the storm..I am back home now, had to get to my cats. I think I am Ok where I am, (wish I had my GPS or something..) my main concern is tornadoes because they always come this way. Not to mention that everything around here was built 100 years ago..mpi

pjop
08-29-2005, 04:04 AM
I am at work and cannot get live video so I'm searching to try and get updates on the hurricane and never even thought to look at WS..just stumbled upon this thread. I appreciate any info anyone can give..those of you who are watching it on TV. (I read here frequently but don't post).

Thanks!!!

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 04:11 AM
It is, right now, errie and calm, like calm before the storm..I am back home now, had to get to my cats. I think I am Ok where I am, (wish I had my GPS or something..) my main concern is tornadoes because they always come this way. Not to mention that everything around here was built 100 years ago..mpi

Are you in Louisana?

Nore
08-29-2005, 04:34 AM
I am at work and cannot get live video so I'm searching to try and get updates on the hurricane and never even thought to look at WS..just stumbled upon this thread. I appreciate any info anyone can give..those of you who are watching it on TV. (I read here frequently but don't post).

Thanks!!!
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Hi pjop,it is bearing down on LA right now.N O. is head on.I believe he said it is now cat.4 but that is still serious.It sounds as though the East side of the storm hits worse.I'm in Ohio so more familiar to tornadoes and snowstorms.Tail end~sounds like they are worried about the SuperDome....They still have power in Sd..barometer is very low. Take care.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 04:54 AM
They are describing the hurricane as catastrophic, on the TV. Say that it is the kind of storm you will only see once in a lifetime. Adding to the hurricane worries- is the fear of flooding. New Orleans looks like a direct strike. It sits in a bowl, they don't think the levee's are high enough and fear that either the lake or the river (or both) will end up in the city.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 04:57 AM
I am watching a webcam, and the streets are practically deserted. No traffic.
Contributing to the fear of the wind and storm, there is the chemical plants, oil plants, the fact that rats and snakes will be looking for the same high ground that the people want, burials there are above ground- so there is fear of bodies getting loose.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 05:02 AM
Besides water stagnating, after the storm, there will be mesquitoes, rabies bred in the warm standing water and humid air.
They keep showing the mayor on the TV. He sounds like someone you would see at the movies. He is not giving the usual "we will be, ok" he is saying things like we have to listen when the weather people say that the storm is catastrophic. He says he has never heard them describe any other storm in the terms they are using for this one.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 05:06 AM
Cincy area Red Cross has already sent people to Ala. to be ready to go in after the storm. Our electric company is evaluating how large a group to send (they have a disaster team that goes to disasters in other states).

pjop
08-29-2005, 05:11 AM
Sounds pretty bad. Thanks to both of you for the updates. I get off at 7 so I'll be able to see what's going on then. Thanks a lot. Feel free to post more if you're up to it. I'll be here reading. :)

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 05:32 AM
Is there anyone on this board in the local area of Baton Rogue???????
OR is there anyone who knows that area and how it will be effected by this hurricane.

I ask because i have friends who live there in that area and im worried about them.
I have sooooooooo many maps/links/web/media articles etc up (on my computer) that my head is spinning with all these unfamiliar names/abbrev etc

They live about an hour from New Orleans (inland towards Baton Rogue) I keep reading articles about the evacuations and they state "Parish". I dont know their Parish and BTW whats a Parish anyway?????????

Please can anyone help, Im getting so confused and very worried.

Thanks
aussieblue

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 05:36 AM
The parish is another word for county. What city does your friend live in? Or what is the nearest city. I am from Ohio, but will do what I can.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 05:42 AM
another poster is from Baton Rouge I think. She hasn't been evac'ed. Many of the New Orleans people are being evac'ed to Baton Rouge. New Orleans is the biggest concern- they are below sea level.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 05:50 AM
Kgeaux is from Baton Rouge. She posted in this thread yesterday. She gave a little bit of details about what is happening in Baton Rouge. http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=784301#post784301

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 05:55 AM
The parish is another word for county. What city does your friend live in? Or what is the nearest city. I am from Ohio, but will do what I can.

Ok thank you mysteriew .... parish=county = what we call "shire", I think.

They live in Holden which is (on a map lol to the right of Baton Rogue)
Im trying to find their Parish, every place i go (web) i need to be a member or i end up at the wrong Holden.

Im thinking the Parish could be "Livingston"???? because it comes up Holden Livingston United States, on msn maps BUT when i sent them packages I didnt use Livingston in their address. So very confused here (as usual).

Holden doesnt even show on many maps.

Thanks for any help you can give me

~aussieblue

pjop
08-29-2005, 06:02 AM
I put in Holden, LA in maps.com and what they show is Livingston Co. which is east of Baton Rouge which is closer to New Orleans than Baton Rouge.

Boatswain'sMate
08-29-2005, 06:03 AM
Ok thank you mysteriew .... parish=county = what we call "shire", I think.

They live in Holden which is (on a map lol to the right of Baton Rogue)
Im trying to find their Parish, every place i go (web) i need to be a member or i end up at the wrong Holden.

Im thinking the Parish could be "Livingston"???? because it comes up Holden Livingston United States, on msn maps BUT when i sent them packages I didnt use Livingston in their address. So very confused here (as usual).

Holden doesnt even show on many maps.

Thanks for any help you can give me

~aussieblue

What zip code (5-digit number after "LA") did you use for the address? That will pinpoint their location.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 06:08 AM
Local news just showed a reporter in Biloxi, Mississippi and she said the winds have picked up and they are getting the bands of rain. Being further south, New Orleans would have started earlier.

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 06:10 AM
Kgeaux is from Baton Rouge. She posted in this thread yesterday. She gave a little bit of details about what is happening in Baton Rouge. http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=784301#post784301

**sighs of relief**
Thanks for the link mysteriew and i had been reading all the posts in this thread for news in that area, some how I missed that page of posts.

I keep hearing/reading names of areas that will be badly effected then rushing to all my maps here checking on where they are in prox to Holden. My head is spinning, i'm starting to feel quiet sick.

Everything looks closer on these maps lol
PLUS i have to convert everything from miles to km's etc etc

My thoughts go out to all who will be effected by this.

~aussieblue

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 06:15 AM
I put in Holden, LA in maps.com and what they show is Livingston Co. which is east of Baton Rouge which is closer to New Orleans than Baton Rouge.

OK so is Livingston Co the Parish then ???????

~aussieblue

pjop
08-29-2005, 06:19 AM
OK so is Livingston Co the Parish then ??????? That's what it looks like to me. I went to 411.com to search for a zip code for Holden and it still came up as Livingston so I'm guessing Holden is in Livingston Parrish/County.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 06:20 AM
It is going to be really bad, for all of those areas. This hurricane has already killed something like 7 before it picked up strength. But the main fear is New Orleans. That is because it is below sea level and lies between a large lake and the Mississippi River. They don't know if the levee's will hold, and they think the storm surges will bring the water over the levee's. It sounds like Holden is between New Orleans and Baton Rouge. It is still very serious for your friends, but not as bad as New Orleans, as long as they are on high ground.

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 06:22 AM
What zip code (5-digit number after "LA") did you use for the address? That will pinpoint their location.

Im such an idiot, why didnt i think of the zip code (post code in aussieland)

Ok post code is 70744

~aussieblue

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 06:32 AM
aussieblue try this link. gives info about the storm, and at the bottom of the page links to video coverage of the hurricane.
http://www.wxnation.com/blog/

Magnum PI
08-29-2005, 06:47 AM
There were tornado warnings earlier. Yes, tornadoes happen with hurricanes. Especially relating to the outside bands of the storm, which are basically just severe thunderstorms, which is also, basically, what a hurricane is, a mass of severe thunderstorms rotating around a vortex, at first.
I just heard there is a plan(supposed) to blow the levees north of New Orleans, which would flood Monroeville, but take pressure off the lake and divert water from New Orleans. This, supposedely comes from someone in the Corp of Eng.. .mpi

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 06:50 AM
Live video cam: http://www.nola.com/bourbocam/ Thanks to BeyondBelief for the link.

Rag Doll 02
08-29-2005, 06:55 AM
I am here in Calif. and it is almost 4am. I am wide awake and cant sleep-- I am very worried for all of you affected by this. First and foremost, I am praying that all of you and your families and pets are in a safe place. Secondly, I am praying that any damage is minimal to your homes and towns.........

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 06:55 AM
aussieblue try this link. gives info about the storm, and at the bottom of the page links to video coverage of the hurricane.
http://www.wxnation.com/blog/

A big thanks to everyone for their help, I was totally going around in circles here.

My friends dont live in the town Holden but Holden is the closest town to them. Where they live is lowlying and it floods easily PLUS they are always getting hit by tornados (shakes my head, I've told them so many times to MOVE, flooding, tornados and GATORS, sheeeesh).
I believe they are closer to New Orleans than they are Baton Rouge which is why i have been so worried.

Thats a great link mysteriew, thanks.

~aussieblue

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 07:00 AM
YW. Try the webcams also. It is just getting light in Baton Rouge, so the view is getting somewhat better.
Some of the cams that worked last night, are now either not working at all, or are very dark. I suspect that they are losing power in some areas.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 07:20 AM
According to my local news the eyewall is just now hitting land. The eyewall is where the strongest winds are. So it hasn't hit NO yet.

Dark Knight
08-29-2005, 07:27 AM
Hurricane Katrina Makes Landfall in La.

By ADAM NOSSITER, Associated Press Writer


Hurricane Katrina slammed ashore early Monday and charged toward this low-lying city with 150-mph winds and the threat of a catastrophic storm surge.

Katrina edged slightly to the east shortly before making landfall near Grand Isle, providing some hope that the worst of the storm's wrath might not be directed at the vulnerable city. Martin Nelson, a meteorologist at the National Hurricane Center, said the northern part of the eyewall came ashore at about 5 a.m. central time.

Katrina's fury was quickly felt at the Louisiana Superdome, normally home of professional football's Saints, which became the shelter of last resort Sunday for about 9,000 of the area's poor, homeless and frail.

Electrical power at the Superdome failed at 5:02 a.m., triggering groans from the crowd. Emergency generators kicked in, but the backup power runs only reduced lighting and is not strong enough to run the air conditioning.

Boatswain'sMate
08-29-2005, 07:28 AM
Im such an idiot, why didnt i think of the zip code (post code in aussieland)

Ok post code is 70744

~aussieblue
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&address=&city=&state=LA&zipcode=70744

This link will take you to a map. The red star is where 70744 is. Close to New Orleans!

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 07:40 AM
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 26A...CORRECTED
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
6 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005

CORRECTED TIMES TO 6 AM CDT

...EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE KATRINA PREPARING
TO MOVE ONSHORE NEAR SOUTHERN PLAQUEMINES PARISH LOUISIANA...
...HURRICANE-FORCE WIND GUSTS OCCURRING OVER MOST OF SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA...IN THE NEW ORLEANS METROPOLITAN AREA...AND AS FAR
EAST AS THE CHANDELEUR ISLANDS...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD HAVE BEEN
COMPLETED.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 6 AM CDT...1100Z...THE CENTER OF MAJOR HURRICANE KATRINA WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 29.1 NORTH... LONGITUDE 89.6 WEST OR ABOUT
MIDWAY BETWEEN GRAND ISLE AND THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.
THIS IS ALSO ABOUT 70 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHEAST OF NEW ORLEANS
LOUISIANA AND ABOUT 95 MILES SOUTH-SOUTHWEST OF BILOXI MISSISSIPPI.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 15 MPH... AND THIS
MOTION IS FORECAST TO CONTINUE TODAY. A GRADUAL TURN TOWARD THE
NORTH-NORTHEAST AT A SLIGHTLY FASTER FORWARD SPEED IS EXPECTED
LATER TONIGHT AND ON TUESDAY. ON THE FORECAST TRACK...KATRINA WILL
MOVE ONSHORE THE SOUTHERN COAST OF PLAQUEMINES PARISH NEAR EMPIRE
AND BURAS LOUSIANA WITHIN THE ENXT HOUR...AND REACH THE
LOUISIANA-MISSISSIPPI BORDER AREA BY EARLY AFTERNOON. CONDITIONS
WILL CONTINUE TO STEADILY DETERIORATE OVER CENTRAL AND SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA...SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...AND SOUTHERN ALABAMA THROUGHOUT
THE DAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 145 MPH...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. KATRINA IS A STRONG CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
PRIOR TO LANDFALL...BUT KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AS
A CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF
HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR
GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA REMAINS A VERY LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 120 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. DURING THE PAST HOUR...A
SUSTAINED WIND OF 56 MPH WITH A GUST TO 85 MPH WAS REPORTED AT NEW
ORLEANS LAKEFRONT AIRPORT...AND A SUSTAINED WIND OF 74 MPH WITH A
GUST TO 96 MPH WAS REPORTED AT THE NAVAL AIR STATION IN BELLE
CHASSE LOUISIANA.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 918 MB...27.11 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.
NOAA BUOY 42040 LOCATED ABOUT 50 MILES EAST OF THE MOUTH OF THE
MISSISSIPPI RIVER RECENTLY REPORTED WAVES HEIGHTS OF AT LEAST 47
FEET.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

SCATTERED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE TODAY OVER SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA... SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHERN ALABAMA...AND OVER
THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 6 AM CDT POSITION...29.1 N... 89.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH NEAR 15 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED
WINDS...145 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 918 MB.

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 07:45 AM
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&searchtab=home&address=&city=&state=LA&zipcode=70744

This link will take you to a map. The red star is where 70744 is. Close to New Orleans!

Thats a better map than the one i had,
thank you Boatswainsmate.

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 07:51 AM
Good Morning Everybody

Here is the real-time satellite image sequence. Be patient, it takes a while to load.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 07:56 AM
Strike Probabilities

LOCATION A B C D E
PENSACOLA FL 15 1 1 X 17
MOBILE AL 49 X X X 49
GULFPORT MS 72 X X X 72
BURAS LA 99 X X X 99
NEW ORLEANS LA 74 X X X 74

COLUMN DEFINITION PROBABILITIES IN PERCENT
A IS PROBABILITY FROM NOW TO 1AM TUE
FOLLOWING ARE ADDITIONAL PROBABILITIES
B FROM 1AM TUE TO 1PM TUE
C FROM 1PM TUE TO 1AM WED
D FROM 1AM WED TO 1AM THU
E IS TOTAL PROBABILITY FROM NOW TO 1AM THU
X MEANS LESS THAN ONE PERCENT

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 07:58 AM
Good Morning Everybody

Here is the real-time satellite image sequence. Be patient, it takes a while to load.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/float-ir4-loop.html

Evening Buzzm1 (Monday 9.25 pm here in aussieland, so i guess that makes it nearly your tomorrow and your today is nearly my yesterday :waitasec: )

ty for the link

~aussieblue

Boatswain'sMate
08-29-2005, 08:01 AM
Thats a better map than the one i had,
thank you Boatswainsmate.

No problem. I've got friends and relatives down there, too, so I've been watching the news and checking maps all night. Good luck to your friend.

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 08:09 AM
Evening Buzzm1 (Monday 9.25 pm here in aussieland, so i guess that makes it nearly your tomorrow and your today is nearly my yesterday :waitasec: )

ty for the link

~aussieblueGood Morning aussieblue, it's 5:10AM here in California (Monday).

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 08:16 AM
I have been watching this river cam since dayligt in NO. The visability has decreased dramatically in the last 15 min. And I can't be sure, but I think the river is higher also.
http://www.2theadvocate.com/traffic/tower2.shtml

Boatswain'sMate
08-29-2005, 08:45 AM
I wish these guys on Fox and CNN would get in out of the storm! There's stuff flying at them, and they're right by power lines, and they're staggering all around trying not to get knocked over. I mean, is having a live (at least for now) person out there so very necessary? I think I'll switch over to watching that rivercam!

aussieblue
08-29-2005, 08:57 AM
I wish these guys on Fox and CNN would get in out of the storm! There's stuff flying at them, and they're right by power lines, and they're staggering all around trying not to get knocked over. I mean, is having a live (at least for now) person out there so very necessary? I think I'll switch over to watching that rivercam!

I agree boatswainsmate, we have been watching Fox and my son just said "bloody idiots standing out there when stuff is flying about, talk about dangerous".

Im having trouble trying to get the cams working.

~aussieblue

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 09:04 AM
HURRICANE KATRINA INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY NUMBER 26B
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
8 AM CDT MON AUG 29 2005

...LARGE AND EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE KATRINA
POUNDING SOUTHEASTERN LOUISIANA AND SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 8 AM CDT...1300Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 29.7 NORTH... LONGITUDE 89.6 WEST OR ABOUT 40 MILES
SOUTHEAST OF NEW ORLEANS LOUISIANA AND ABOUT 65 MILES SOUTHWEST OF
BILOXI MISSISSIPPI.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTH NEAR 15 MPH...AND A GRADUAL TURN
TO THE NORTH-NORTHEAST AT A SLIGHTLY FASTER FORWARD SPEED IS
EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ON THIS TRACK...THE CENTER WILL BE
PASSING JUST TO THE EAST OF NEW ORLEANS DURING THE NEXT FEW HOURS
WITH THE WORST OF THE WEATHER FOR THAT CITY OCCURRING OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF HOURS. THE CENTER IS EXPECTED TO MOVE INTO SOUTHERN
MISSISSIPPI LATER TODAY.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 135 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY FOUR HURRICANE ON THE
SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. WEAKENING IS FORECAST AS THE CIRCULATION
INTERACTS WITH LAND TODAY. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF
HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR
GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA IS A VERY LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND
OUTWARD UP TO 125 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. PASCAGOULA MISSISSIPPI CIVIL
DEFENSE REPORTED A WIND GUST TO 118 MPH...AND GULFPORT MISSISSIPPI
EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER REPORTED SUSTAINED WINDS OF 94 MPH WITH
A GUST TO 100 MPH. BELLE CHASSE LOUISIANA...JUST SOUTHEAST OF NEW
ORLEANS...RECENTLY REPORTED SUSTAINED WINDS OF 76 MPH WITH A GUST
TO 88 MPH. A LITTLE EARLIER...BELLE CHASE REPORTED A GUST TO 105
MPH. NEW ORLEANS LAKEFRONT AIRPORT RECENTLY REPORTED SUSTAINED
WINDS OF 69 MPH WITH A GUST TO 86 MPH.

THE MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE RECENTLY REPORTED BY AN AIR FORCE
RESERVE UNIT RECONNAISSANCE AIRCRAFT WAS 923 MB...27.26 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE
EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF THE CENTER. STORM SURGE FLOODING
OF 10 TO 15 FEET...NEAR THE TOPS OF THE LEVEES...IS POSSIBLE IN THE
GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL
OCCUR ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO
COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

THE TORNADO THREAT AHEAD OF KATRINA CONTINUES TO INCREASE AND
SCATTERED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE TODAY OVER SOUTHEASTERN
LOUISIANA... SOUTHERN MISSISSIPPI...SOUTHERN ALABAMA...AND OVER
THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 8 AM CDT POSITION...29.7 N... 89.6 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTH NEAR 15 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...135 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 923 MB.

Dark Knight
08-29-2005, 09:05 AM
The Superdome's roof is starting to fail and large amounts of water is pouring inside onto the people staying inside.

redeskimo
08-29-2005, 09:11 AM
The Superdome's roof is starting to fail and large amounts of water is pouring inside onto the people staying inside.
ooooh no please keep all those people safe ,I'm praying hard .

nanandjim
08-29-2005, 09:13 AM
The Superdome's roof is starting to fail and large amounts of water is pouring inside onto the people staying inside.
Yikes. When we were watching the people waiting to get into the Superdome, my husband commented that he would not be going there... Of course, the way that we procrastinate, we'd still be stuck in traffic... :rolleyes:

amandab
08-29-2005, 09:27 AM
The Superdome's roof is starting to fail and large amounts of water is pouring inside onto the people staying inside.


Ugh - that is just terrifying. Changes the aerodynamics of the building, too....

Emerald Ice
08-29-2005, 09:57 AM
That's what it looks like to me. I went to 411.com to search for a zip code for Holden and it still came up as Livingston so I'm guessing Holden is in Livingston Parrish/County.

Yes that is in Livingston Parish. I live in Lafayette which is about 125 miles from New Orleans and about 45 miles from Baton Rouge. Right now we are getting a slight drizzle of rain and some gusting winds. Its kinda of quite right now but we are expecting high winds and heavy rains later on today. I will try to keep you all posted during the day.

EI

Jovin
08-29-2005, 10:19 AM
I have MSNBC on and they were saying that the authorities got a message from a guy who had decided to stay and weather the storm out....he called on his cell and said he was not sure he could get through his roof, but he had an axe and a hammer and he stated....."Come and get me; I want to live!"

Why do these people not heed the warnings?

Shadow205
08-29-2005, 10:21 AM
I have MSNBC on and they were saying that the authorities got a message from a guy who had decided to stay and weather the storm out....he called on his cell and said he was not sure he could get through his roof, but he had an axe and a hammer and he stated....."Come and get me; I want to live!"

Why do these people not heed the warnings?
Exactly Jovin. Now he wants someone to risk their life to "come and get me!"

Jovin
08-29-2005, 10:25 AM
Exactly Jovin. Now he wants someone to risk their life to "come and get me!"

The sad thing is that no one will be going...not in this! I changed back to Fox, and they said the one levee has been broken and that houses are flooded to the ceilings ....I just can't imagine the terror of those who never left their homes. God bless them.

fran
08-29-2005, 10:32 AM
Some buildings have collapsed in NO and people are calling 911 to be rescued. They will just have to wait and rescue themselves. Emergency personnel cannot go out now, it's too dangerous, per FOX.

fran

God bless all those effected.

Amraann
08-29-2005, 10:34 AM
HI!!

Here are some links for you all to follow the storm

This is live news feed from MSNCB (Only click the live feed link on the page if you have a high speed connection)
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8004316/


This is the storm2K Forum.
http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/index.php
Some VERY well informed weather watchers there.
They also have a chat room on the same server as WS.
Same rules apply if you use their chat as in WS and Please remember to type in your username so you don't come in as YOURNICK
If you accidentally do then you can change your name by typing
/nick yourname

To connect to their chat using mIRC go to the Stormdancing server and then #storm2K
For java chat here is the link
http://www.stormdancing.net/network/java/storm2k/storm2k.htm
Click yes for the java link like you would for WS chat.

IN chat I am amraann (S2k and WS) and a couple of other WSer's have been there on and off as well:)

nanandjim
08-29-2005, 10:35 AM
Some buildings have collapsed in NO and people are calling 911 to be rescued. They will just have to wait and rescue themselves. Emergency personnel cannot go out now, it's too dangerous, per FOX.

fran

God bless all those effected.
If I lived in a place that was below sea level, it wouldn't take much thought for me to evacuate to higher ground BEFORE the hurricane hit town.

ETA: I certainly wouldn't be one of these idiot reporters reporting outside in the hurricane. Geez...anything for a story. :rolleyes:

Amraann
08-29-2005, 10:46 AM
another live video feed link


http://www.wiat.com/

amandab
08-29-2005, 11:09 AM
BREAKING NEWS Lower 9th Ward of New Orleans, on east side of city, under 5 to 6 feet of water after pumps fail, mayor says. Details soon.

Edit: does anyone know how much space the lower 9th ward covers? 1 square mile? 40 square miles?

13th Juror
08-29-2005, 11:31 AM
Katrina just downgraded to a Cat 3 - according to FOX News.

As bad as it still is - New Orleans seems to have dodged the "big time" bullet. :)

Hopefully, all of our fervent all night prayers helped ...

Wishing blessings & prayers to all still in Katrinas path!

13th Juror

mic730
08-29-2005, 11:33 AM
On Fox website says people in SuperDome are safe!
I so hope this is accurate.
The Superdome is not in any dangerous situation," Gov. Kathleen Blanco (search) said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167313,00.html

Cypros
08-29-2005, 11:37 AM
I have MSNBC on and they were saying that the authorities got a message from a guy who had decided to stay and weather the storm out....he called on his cell and said he was not sure he could get through his roof, but he had an axe and a hammer and he stated....."Come and get me; I want to live!"

Why do these people not heed the warnings?

I think for some people riding out the worst storm in history and having an exciting story to tell afterward is just too compelling to pass up. This is SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST in action. Intelligence and personal choices are equally important in determining "fitness" as physical strength and health. :(

13th Juror
08-29-2005, 11:50 AM
Again - according to FOX News

The death toll, down here in Florida, from Hurricane Katrina, when she was only a Cat "1" - has risen from 7 to 11 victims.

A number of those folks were ones who did NOT heed the warnings and took ridiculous risks.

13th Juror

Beyond Belief
08-29-2005, 11:51 AM
On fox talking abt people on their roof's. St Bernard Co

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 11:57 AM
Good morning everyone. My daughter, Tammy & her family are holding up fine in their house in Vancleave. Ms...They are without power, but she called me on her cell a few minutes ago. Thank God this thing is not as powerful as it was earlier. They are between New Orleans & Biloxi (near Gulfport), and the worst of it (for them) is happening now. She said she could see that one small pine tree was down in the back yard, but other than that, they think the house is fine. They can't go out to check the roof, but there aren't any leaks inside. The kids are playing monopoly, and Paul will fire up the generator as soon as this thing has passed (don't wanna' run those inside, nope, bad idea).
Thank you so much J Bean for your nice letter,and all of you for your concern about my family. I really appreciate all my friends here, & I pray all are safe today.
I havn't read all of this thread yet, But I will when I get to work (so much nicer there with DSL...we have dial-up at the house (SLLLOOOWWWW).
I'll get back to WS when I get to work.
Hugs to all,
Deb

Sassygerl
08-29-2005, 12:31 PM
Here are some pics of an evacuee from a friend of a friends family member.....talk about a carload! I think my car would look the same!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Sassygerl/katrina.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Sassygerl/katrina2.jpg

nanandjim
08-29-2005, 01:17 PM
Here are some pics of an evacuee from a friend of a friends family member.....talk about a carload! I think my car would look the same!...
I don't think that they'll be returning anytime soon! :)

13th Juror
08-29-2005, 01:18 PM
Katrina downgraded once again to a "Cat 2"

1 pm EDT - Fox News

Edited to add: Downgraded to a Cat "1" at 3 pm today.


Down here in Florida - we were hit so hard by 3 powerful hurricanes in succession last year. I remember all-too-well how it feels to be without power (especially A/C) for almost 2-3 weeks at a time. And hours long gas & ice lines - if you could even find it. Just a Miserable situation!

Generators were truly a God-send but extremely difficult to obtain and waay over-priced when you did find them. Still they couldn't run the A/C. At least we were on higher ground and didn't have the extreme flooding problem that the Gulf Coast is experiencing. I'm just flabbergasted at what I'm seeing on TV - and feeling terribly guilty that I have so much when others are losing everything.

The current video of the widespread destruction on FOX & MSNBC is just unreal! Can't sit still - have to do something to help. Going to put together *Emergency supply packages* for victims needing assistance - also "Pet Care Packages", of course.

13th Juror

DEPUTYDAWG
08-29-2005, 01:38 PM
Why do these people not heed the warnings?

Hi Jovin!

In 2001 and 2002, I worked during mandatory fire evacuations - some people are great...and some can be downright nasty. Unbelievable. Not very often, but a few times my commanding officer did indeed threaten arrest. More often, but again, not used too often, was asking the person to sign a waiver, basically that they realize no emergency personnel will be responding to any emergency call they may make and they're staying at their own risk. Although some would be just rude and obnoxious, they'd usually do it. IMO, you see the best and the worst of people in these situations.

Marthatex
08-29-2005, 01:47 PM
Well do I assume the levees held, or can there still be more trouble? Evidently the 20 foot storm surge didn't happen? Man, what luck. sounds like Gulfport, Ms. was destroyed.

I hope that scenario of the flooding and all the chemicals in the water is not going to happen now.

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 02:00 PM
I tried to call my daughter just now (she's in Vancleave, just out of Gulfport), but the cell towers must be down. They have 3 cell phones between them but all I get is busy signals on all 3. They were fine when I talked to her at 8:30 this morning, and that was during the worst of it in their area. Hopefully when this thing passes them, she'll be able to contact us somehow.

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 02:10 PM
Hi Jovin!

In 2001 and 2002, I worked during mandatory fire evacuations - some people are great...and some can be downright nasty. Unbelievable. Not very often, but a few times my commanding officer did indeed threaten arrest. More often, but again, not used too often, was asking the person to sign a waiver, basically that they realize no emergency personnel will be responding to any emergency call they may make and they're staying at their own risk. Although some would be just rude and obnoxious, they'd usually do it. IMO, you see the best and the worst of people in these situations.

The kids did load up the car & the van & head out yesterday, but when they got to the highway and saw how congested it was, they had to make a decision. Paul was afraid they'd be stuck out there somewhere on the road when it hit, so they turned back. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision to make. I hope it was the right one.
:(

DEPUTYDAWG
08-29-2005, 02:16 PM
The kids did load up the car & the van & head out yesterday, but when they got to the highway and saw how congested it was, they had to make a decision. Paul was afraid they'd be stuck out there somewhere on the road when it hit, so they turned back. I'm sure it wasn't an easy decision to make. I hope it was the right one.
:(

Oh my Heavenly, you must be beside yourself! Well, at least you got a 8:30am update. Sometimes the not knowing is the worst, huh? Hopefully you'll get a call fairly soon.


P.S. Sacramento metro area is my home! :woohoo: (I just moved to TX in late 2002 - all my family, etc. is still back in CA!)

Tom'sGirl
08-29-2005, 02:41 PM
Here are some pics of an evacuee from a friend of a friends family member.....talk about a carload! I think my car would look the same!

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Sassygerl/katrina.jpg

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y4/Sassygerl/katrina2.jpgSassy, I got those photos a couple of months ago online from a friend. They are "spoof" photos of all kind of vehicle topics. Has nothing to do with Katrina evacuees.

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 02:41 PM
Their house is built well, so I really think they're OK. I've scanned some pics from last year when I was out there. 1st pic is the front of the house, 2nd pic is of the back yard where she said she could see a tree down. The 3rd pic is me & my 'baby' girl, Tammy when they took me to see New Orleans.You're from Sacramento deputy? We go there quite often looking for records. We go to 'The Beat' and in old Sac, 'Brooks Novelty'.
http://tinypic.com/begehe.jpg

Old Bird
08-29-2005, 02:48 PM
I'm in the Ft Walton Beach FL area & the weather is lousy here. The winds are high (at least 30-60mph now -- wx rpt said 90 mph gusts earlier) and it sounds like a freight train going thru the tall trees in the wetlands. The storm surge is coming in (we're only getting about 5-6 ft.) -- I can see the water rising in the wetlands behind the house. The rain has been intermittent as the storm bands roll thru. Most schools & businesses are closed here today. We do still have power.

We're almost 200 mi east of New Orleans & about 140 mi east Gulfport. Plus Katrina can be felt quite a bit further east from this location. Does that give you a good idea of how BIG Katrina is!?! I can't imagine. My heart goes out to the folks who couldn't leave the area and get away from monster Katrina. :(

I can't stop watching the news & looking at the pics that are already available. We lived thru Ivan & Dennis here (now they look like lightweights), but I wouldn't want to see Katrina up close & personal -- nor would I wish her on ANYBODY! Gads...

Hope all the WSers are safe & out of harms way. OB

DEPUTYDAWG
08-29-2005, 02:49 PM
Their house is built well, so I really think they're OK. I've scanned some pics from last year when I was out there. 1st pic is the front of the house, 2nd pic is of the back yard where she said she could see a tree down. The 3rd pic is me & my 'baby' girl, Tammy when they took me to see New Orleans.You're from Sacramento deputy? We go there quite often looking for records. We go to 'The Beat' and in old Sac, 'Brooks Novelty'.
http://tinypic.com/begehe.jpg

Nice pics! It was weird yesterday watching the news and New Orleans. I was there in 1990...I was thinking to myself that I hoped all the residents and tourists took good pictures before evacuating, as it may not look the same for many, many years. Well now it sounds as though NO won't be "as" bad as first thought, but try telling that to the many who WILL lose their house, business, etc. Almost mind-boggling, isn't it?

Yes, Roseville/Rocklin. But have also lived in Modesto, Stockton and Galt!

Sassygerl
08-29-2005, 03:35 PM
Sassy, I got those photos a couple of months ago online from a friend. They are "spoof" photos of all kind of vehicle topics. Has nothing to do with Katrina evacuees.

Really??? Wow...thanks Tom'sgirl. I had no idea....got them from a friend who said her coworkers brother took them.

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 03:38 PM
Here is an article from WWL New Orleans about the damage being reported throughout the area.

http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcontent/breakingnews/stories/082905ccjrrhNewsKatrina.44c8318.html

Tom'sGirl
08-29-2005, 03:47 PM
Really??? Wow...thanks Tom'sgirl. I had no idea....got them from a friend who said her coworkers brother took them.I know, I get the same thing saying a friend of a friend of a friend took the photos. It was a funny series of photos though, "Ozark Motorhome" and other funny pics.

I even got one from my sister inlaw with a photo supposedly from Iraq that her son, my nephew who was stationed over there............in reality it was a photo taken years ago in Afganastan.

I'm not very gullible, usually check a lot of the emails I get out on Truth or Fiction site. I got some photos of the Tsunami that were fake (digitally enhanced of a wave) that I didn't think was funny.

Tom'sGirl
08-29-2005, 04:00 PM
Here is an article from WWL New Orleans about the damage being reported throughout the area.

http://www.wwltv.com/sharedcontent/breakingnews/stories/082905ccjrrhNewsKatrina.44c8318.htmlThanks for the very informative link CP

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 04:21 PM
I still havn't heard from Tammy. I keep trying to call, but keep getting the same busy signal on all their cell phones. I even called the house number (like, Duuhh...That's gonna' work)
I'm sure they're fine,and I've searched the internet on info about Vancleave & Gulfport, but most of it is hours old. I'm in the store now, so no TV.I think I'll stick right here with my friends. You guys seem to have the most current updates. Keep posting.(hubby says he's not worried...they're fine & I shouldn't be freaking out...he's probably right, but I'm a MOM and a GRANDMA...it's in my nature).

Sassygerl
08-29-2005, 04:27 PM
I know, I get the same thing saying a friend of a friend of a friend took the photos. It was a funny series of photos though, "Ozark Motorhome" and other funny pics.

I even got one from my sister inlaw with a photo supposedly from Iraq that her son, my nephew who was stationed over there............in reality it was a photo taken years ago in Afganastan.

I'm not very gullible, usually check a lot of the emails I get out on Truth or Fiction site. I got some photos of the Tsunami that were fake (digitally enhanced of a wave) that I didn't think was funny.

LOL.....I don't usually fall for stuff, but only got those TWO pictures, and I knew my friends co-workers family was there. I will tell my friend, because I know for certain she felt they were real too! :)

bugs
08-29-2005, 04:29 PM
I'm in TN and the storm is heading this way. Schools are closing already due to potential flooding, tornados, etc. Our roads always flood out. However, nothing like the folks in Louisiana. Prayers are definitely there.

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 04:53 PM
For any of you out in the mid-west or other inland places far from this hurricane, it may effect you.
Katrina brings more bad news for U.S. pump prices

By Chris Baltimore
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - There is a new name for what ails U.S. drivers at the gasoline pump, and her name is Katrina.

If things weren't bad enough last week with the average U.S. retail gasoline price hitting a record $2.61 a gallon, Hurricane Katrina struck at the heart of the U.S. oilpatch on Monday.

Katrina's 135 mph (216 kph) winds walloped crude oil platforms and shut down about half the Gulf of Mexico's oil production.

The storm also shuttered eight Gulf refineries that normally churn out about 1.8 million barrels of gasoline each day -- about 9 percent of daily U.S. needs.

Read the rest here:
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/ns/news/story.jsp?flok=FF-RTO-PLS&idq=/ff/story/0002/20050829/1441000034.htm&photoid=20050828LA102&ewp=&ewp=ewp_news_0805katrina_oil

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 05:10 PM
I'm in TN and the storm is heading this way. Schools are closing already due to potential flooding, tornados, etc. Our roads always flood out. However, nothing like the folks in Louisiana. Prayers are definitely there.
bugs, prayers headed your way. Please be careful. I'm still waiting to hear from my family in Mississippi.

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 05:17 PM
I'm in TN and the storm is heading this way. Schools are closing already due to potential flooding, tornados, etc. Our roads always flood out. However, nothing like the folks in Louisiana. Prayers are definitely there.

I am in the Atlanta area and we are having "cells". Tornado warnings for 3 metro counties, thunderstorms etc. Touch down in northern Carroll County. My daughter has already lost power.

Our prayers worked last night for New Orleans....it wobbled and lost a little strength and prevented an apocalypse.

Tom'sGirl
08-29-2005, 05:18 PM
LOL.....I don't usually fall for stuff, but only got those TWO pictures, and I knew my friends co-workers family was there. I will tell my friend, because I know for certain she felt they were real too! :)
I found the photos again as I had dumped the email I had received. The photos were taken in Texas (see the freeway sign)

Here's the link:

http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_move.htm

Sassygerl
08-29-2005, 06:14 PM
I found the photos again as I had dumped the email I had received. The photos were taken in Texas (see the freeway sign)

Here's the link:

http://www.lilligren.com/Redneck/redneck_move.htm

Thanks TG!!!!! Well geez, had I gotten the one with the freeway sign I would have known something was stinky!!!!! I am Texxxxxxan :D

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 07:05 PM
Is anyone following the news about what is really going on? The refinery's can be placed anywhere and considering, should be off vulnerable areas of hurricanes. So, why are the refinery's being placed where they are most vulnerable?I think we have big time politics going on. I have heard Mary Landrieu several times today and all I want is not to see her face. She is already asking for money for the marshlands and bodies are beginning to be seen floating.

Louisiana politics as usual and as usual I am so disgusted. As taxpayers, and citizens we really need to pay attention.

So, tomorrow we you go to fill up ask yourself this... who is pulling the strings?

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 07:18 PM
Not to be spreading more doom, but I am wondering about something.
Ok, NO didn't get a direct hit, and may have saved the city. Never the less they are having trouble with flooding. Ok, Katrina is expected to move up the Missippi river valley causing storms and dumping water as she goes. I am in Ohio and they are already warning that we will not only get the storms, but could possibly get flooding here. Now, our floods eventually ends up in the Ohio river, which dumps into the Mississippi. Which will already be full, possibly flooding due to the storms they have already had. What are the chances that NO is not out of the woods- due to flood waters from the north causing additional flooding in NO. I know there are locks and dams all along the Ohio and Mississippi, but the flooding they are expecting is going to have to go somewhere.

Liz
08-29-2005, 07:20 PM
Our prayers worked last night for New Orleans....it wobbled and lost a little strength and prevented an apocalypse.


That's what I was thinking, CP!

Still sending prayers out to those affected! We have friends in Lawrenceville and Gainesville.

Stay safe!

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 07:28 PM
Keep listening to Jeanne Meserve of CNN. Things are happening that we didn't want to happen. The gas station aspect is so stupid. More to come, I am sure.

Sassygerl
08-29-2005, 07:28 PM
I still havn't heard from Tammy. I keep trying to call, but keep getting the same busy signal on all their cell phones. I even called the house number (like, Duuhh...That's gonna' work)
I'm sure they're fine,and I've searched the internet on info about Vancleave & Gulfport, but most of it is hours old. I'm in the store now, so no TV.I think I'll stick right here with my friends. You guys seem to have the most current updates. Keep posting.(hubby says he's not worried...they're fine & I shouldn't be freaking out...he's probably right, but I'm a MOM and a GRANDMA...it's in my nature).

Heavenly.......I'm thinking about ya! I heard earlier that the Gulfport area is isolated right now with no land lines or cell phones and the roads are impassable because of all the trees down, etc. I'm sure Tammy will call you just as soon as she can! As a mother I'm sure you're ever so anxious to hear from her. I would be beside myself. Hang in there.....the call with come soon...just not soon enough for Mama. :) Keep us posted!

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 07:37 PM
Not to be spreading more doom, but I am wondering about something.
Ok, NO didn't get a direct hit, and may have saved the city. Never the less they are having trouble with flooding. Ok, Katrina is expected to move up the Missippi river valley causing storms and dumping water as she goes. I am in Ohio and they are already warning that we will not only get the storms, but could possibly get flooding here. Now, our floods eventually ends up in the Ohio river, which dumps into the Mississippi. Which will already be full, possibly flooding due to the storms they have already had. What are the chances that NO is not out of the woods- due to flood waters from the north causing additional flooding in NO. I know there are locks and dams all along the Ohio and Mississippi, but the flooding they are expecting is going to have to go somewhere.

That is what I said in another post. Jeanne Meserve has already reported about seeing a body floating.Yes, it wasn't the worst expected but stil there is a lot going on that we don't know about yet. All, so far, is about downtown and the commercial aspect not a lot about the human aspect.The rip in the Superdome has nothing to do with what else is going on. Stay tuned.

Anniegirl
08-29-2005, 07:55 PM
we are expecting bad weather; rains, wind...etc.through this area tomorrow ( Near Kentucky, Tenn. line, in South central Ky)

Not looking forward to that! :eek:

We already have a lot of flooding in nearby county,sadly enough that a 10 year old girl is reported missing after seen sweep away while playing near some flooded area.

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 08:00 PM
we are expecting bad weather; rains, wind...etc.through this area tomorrow ( Near Kentucky, Tenn. line, in South central Ky)

Not looking forward to that! :eek:

We already have a lot of flooding in nearby county,sadly enough that a 10 year old girl is reported missing after seen sweep away while playing near some flooded area.

See, that is the thing a lot don't recognize. Hurricane Dennis had a casualty in Atlanta not on the coast.

I am having a hard time keeping up with all of them.

Cypros
08-29-2005, 08:00 PM
We will be getting the storm in NW Pennsylvania on Wednesday and they are already warning people in flood-prone areas to be on alert.

I agree that New Orleans will have a prolonged period of floodig due to its location at the mouth of the Mississippi Riveer and the fact that the storm is heading northward and will be feeding water into river tributaries.

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 08:20 PM
My biggest problem right now is that no one is reporting on Slidell. No one and it was an importent point of the hit. Something is up there and I am sure it isn't good.If anyone is from that area, please report.

Nore
08-29-2005, 08:29 PM
Not to be spreading more doom, but I am wondering about something.
Ok, NO didn't get a direct hit, and may have saved the city. Never the less they are having trouble with flooding. Ok, Katrina is expected to move up the Missippi river valley causing storms and dumping water as she goes. I am in Ohio and they are already warning that we will not only get the storms, but could possibly get flooding here. Now, our floods eventually ends up in the Ohio river, which dumps into the Mississippi. Which will already be full, possibly flooding due to the storms they have already had. What are the chances that NO is not out of the woods- due to flood waters from the north causing additional flooding in NO. I know there are locks and dams all along the Ohio and Mississippi, but the flooding they are expecting is going to have to go somewhere.
-------------
Mysteriew I am near Cleveland.We have flood warnings up beginning tomorrow.I dont have an answer to your question, wish I did.We are not in a low lying area but there are many around here. Many rivers and canals empty into Lake Erie.I hope this is the case for these storms..Take care.

Jules
08-29-2005, 08:36 PM
My biggest problem right now is that no one is reporting on Slidell. No one and it was an importent point of the hit. Something is up there and I am sure it isn't good.If anyone is from that area, please report.

CP, we too have family in the Slidell, Mandeville, Hammond and La Place areas who we have not heard from. They have been reporting that phone lines and cell towers are down. We have left messages on cell phones, and tried calling land lines, but just get a weird beeping noise. Those that were in Slidell and Mandeville left to head towards Hammond yesterday. I know, Hammond isn't far enough away, but traffic was HORRENDOUS and that is as far as they were able to get. La Place is about 30 miles west of New Orleans, so I'm hoping they didn't have much damage. My in-laws just had a new car port installed a few weeks ago to cover their new boat. I'm just praying that both are still there.

Hopefully we'll hear something soon. Hang in there. :blowkiss:

Dark Knight
08-29-2005, 08:57 PM
Praise the Lord it weakened! Now we have to wait and see just what is left behind. There sure are a lot of people begging for help now, who ignored the evacuation, standing on their roofs, etc. What the heck did they expect????? Are people really that stupid? :doh: :doh: :doh:

Casshew
08-29-2005, 09:36 PM
We were just talking to some friends in Huntsville Alabama, they are in the medical supply industry and say the State ordered 100,000 body bags :eek:

That sounds so high to me - is Alabama really that effected by this storm?

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 09:43 PM
Praise the Lord it weakened! Now we have to wait and see just what is left behind. There sure are a lot of people begging for help now, who ignored the evacuation, standing on their roofs, etc. What the heck did they expect????? Are people really that stupid? :doh: :doh: :doh:

No, they are poor. They have no means for evacuation. It costs money for travel.I know the scenario. And to judge what someone's pocketbook is isn't really christian. Notice that the most death's will be in the ninth ward! Please don't judge this....it is human life and don't blame for not having the resouces and don't think that other resouces were available. They weren't!

concernedperson
08-29-2005, 09:50 PM
We were just talking to some friends in Huntsville Alabama, they are in the medical supply industry and say the State ordered 100,000 body bags :eek:

That sounds so high to me - is Alabama really that effected by this storm?

Lord, God tell me this isn't true? Glad to see you Cass, but this has been a rough road.

LDC
08-29-2005, 09:58 PM
See all the looters they are arresting already?

Casshew
08-29-2005, 10:07 PM
Lord, God tell me this isn't true? Glad to see you Cass, but this has been a rough road.
Hi concerned! :blowkiss:

I think that number is exaggerated but this person swears that is the amount ordered.

Shadow205
08-29-2005, 10:15 PM
My biggest problem right now is that no one is reporting on Slidell. No one and it was an importent point of the hit. Something is up there and I am sure it isn't good.If anyone is from that area, please report.
CP, I will pay attention to the names of the areas that I see coverage on. How far is it from New Orleans? Is it East or West?

Shadow205
08-29-2005, 10:18 PM
Does anyone know the name of the town or neighborhood that they keep showing on FOX where the water is up to the roof tops?

Cypros
08-29-2005, 10:26 PM
I was reading these personal accounts posted on CNN.com. Some of them are heartrending. One person mentioned the New Orleans Zoo. There was no time to evacuate or protect the animals. That is going to be another tragedy.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/29/katrina.emails/index.html

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 10:31 PM
I am so tempted to load up on food and water for myself (I can't haul much) and take off for the southern area. I could sleep in my car. I just feel like I need to be there and do something. But at the same time, I can understand them being suspicious of strangers, and I don't want to get there and find that no one wants help or becoming a strain on their resources myself.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 10:40 PM
I was reading these personal accounts posted on CNN.com. Some of them are heartrending. One person mentioned the New Orleans Zoo. There was no time to evacuate or protect the animals. That is going to be another tragedy.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/29/katrina.emails/index.html

Thank you so much for that link. I am still reading, but have already laughed and cried.......and I am not done reading.

Casshew
08-29-2005, 11:11 PM
Sad about the zoo animals :(

I hope many will survive somehow.

13th Juror
08-29-2005, 11:12 PM
On Scarborough Country ...

Mike Brown - Director of FEMA

Joe (on generator power in Pensacola) interviews Mike Brown of FEMA in Baton Rouge.

This was the most important & profound point that stuck in my mind. Evacuees from the affected areas of Louisana, Alabama & Mississippi that are misplaced from their homes, jobs & loved ones and have literally no idea whether or not they even have a "home" to return to - those evacuees will be facing weeks & possibly "months" before they may be allowed to return.

This is a terribly tragic situation. I can not imagine ....

ConcernedPerson, you asked about Slidell. The FEMA director said that the I-10 bridge from New Orleans to Slidell "may have been" compromised. Difficult to get to that area, I guess. I think I heard earlier today that a barge broke loose and crashed into the bridge. They are going to inspect for damage tomorrow.

Keep the Faith! :angel:

13th Juror

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 11:26 PM
Does anyone know the name of the town or neighborhood that they keep showing on FOX where the water is up to the roof tops?There was a low lying area near Lake Ponchetrain that had around 40,000 homes flooded to their rooftops.

Slowly, but surely, the death toll will begin to be reported; it will continue to climb for weeks.

heavenlydaze
08-29-2005, 11:28 PM
My biggest problem right now is that no one is reporting on Slidell. No one and it was an importent point of the hit. Something is up there and I am sure it isn't good.If anyone is from that area, please report.

concerned,
here's a link to the Slidell,Sentry news page:

http://www.slidellsentry.com/guestbook/

message to DK:
Put a lid on it. You're not helping.

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 11:29 PM
I am so tempted to load up on food and water for myself (I can't haul much) and take off for the southern area. I could sleep in my car. I just feel like I need to be there and do something. But at the same time, I can understand them being suspicious of strangers, and I don't want to get there and find that no one wants help or becoming a strain on their resources myself.It's better to stay home, and donate the money you would have spent, including for your gas, to the Red Cross. They are equipped to haul in large quantities of supplies.

FACE-IT
08-29-2005, 11:34 PM
This is a snippet from a National Hurricane Center local bulleetin for New Orleans/Baton Rouge/Mississippi

ALTHOUGH THE TROPICAL STORM WARNING FOR KATRINA HAS BEEN DISCONTINUED
ALONG THE MISSISSIPPI COAST...COASTAL FLOOD PROBLEMS COULD PERSIST
ACROSS THE COASTAL SECTIONS OF HANCOCK...HARRISON AND JACKSON
COUNTIES THROUGH THE NIGHT DUE TO CONTINUED MODERATE TO STRONG
ONSHORE WINDS AND HIGH TIDE OCCURRING ONCE AGAIN AROUND
SUNRISE TUESDAY MORNING. THEREFORE...A COASTAL FLOOD WARNING FOR
THESE COUNTIES HAS BEEN ISSUED THROUGH TONIGHT.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 11:51 PM
It's better to stay home, and donate the money you would have spent, including for your gas, to the Red Cross. They are equipped to haul in large quantities of supplies.

I used to volunteer for the Red Cross. I have a lot of respect for the job they do in both large and small disasters. But, after they kept giving my "ex" (also a volunteer) money for this and that- gave him a vehicle to drive back and forth to his job- meanwhile refusing much help to a local area in a flood (they were a rural county and didn't give much money in advance to the local chapter). I have lost a lot of respect for the org. and am not real sure that I want to continue to pay for my ex's travel to work. They don't allow for "targeted" donations. All donations are put into a general fund and dished out to the chapters as the need arises.
If you want to make sure your funds are going to the area you want to help and you want to contribute to Red Cross- go to the website for the chapter in the area for which you want to contribute and make your donation there. At least they will get credit for being the source of the funds.

mysteriew
08-29-2005, 11:54 PM
Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott today said he’ll work with local law enforcement authorities in Southeast Texas to deal aggressively with hotels and any other businesses accused of exploiting Hurricane Katrina refugees.

"Desperate people have come to Texas in droves, leaving their homes to escape the devastation of Hurricane Katrina. We will bring legal action against any business that takes advantage of these citizens and their dire circumstances," Abbott said in a statement.
http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/metro/stories/MYSA082905.katrinatexas.en.645ac46.html

Casshew
08-30-2005, 12:03 AM
No, they are poor. They have no means for evacuation. It costs money for travel.
People get scared too.. they feel safe at home and don't want to leave - it's their security - rather than going to a strange place, where they don't know how they will be treated or what it will be like. They just are holding on to hope that they will be okay at home. Then they get caught up in it.

There will be a lot of casualties from people that were afraid to leave their homes - it's really sad, many elderly I bet :(

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 12:17 AM
People get scared too.. they feel safe at home and don't want to leave - it's their security - rather than going to a strange place, where they don't know how they will be treated or what it will be like. They just are holding on to hope that they will be okay at home. Then they get caught up in it.

There will be a lot of casualties from people that were afraid to leave their homes - it's really sad, many elderly I bet :(

People also hang on to illusions- "this house has been standing for X number of years, and has gone through hurricane's before" "if I am here, maybe I can save my home" and some people just truly believe they can live through anything. Some don't have the money to go, some don't want to leave pets. There are many reasons- primary I think is that no one wanted to believe that this one was the "big" one.

FACE-IT
08-30-2005, 12:57 AM
People get scared too.. they feel safe at home and don't want to leave - it's their security - rather than going to a strange place, where they don't know how they will be treated or what it will be like. They just are holding on to hope that they will be okay at home. Then they get caught up in it.

There will be a lot of casualties from people that were afraid to leave their homes - it's really sad, many elderly I bet :(I can see where many people would be indecisive too, holding out hope that they won't be in the path of the hurricane. Since evacuation orders are usually not given, until the probability of the hurricane, striking their respective area, is very high, and that isn't more than just a few days before it hits, they wait too long to get ready to evacuate. Then since there aren't that many highways out of any given area, if you hesitate making the decision to leave, with the flood of people trying to get out, it may be too late to try to get on the road, and even if you do, finding a place to stay is going to be a real challenge, as everything gets filled up quickly.

They said there were over 50 deaths in Biloxi? most of the deaths coming from one apartment complex--no details as to the circumstances.

FACE-IT
08-30-2005, 01:00 AM
If you live in a flood prone area, it would pay to know how high your home sits above the level of the river, and also where there is safe high ground.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 01:23 AM
http://www.startribune.com/stories/484/5585751.html

Announcing itself with shrieking, 145-mile-per-hour winds, Hurricane Katrina slammed into the Gulf Coast just outside New Orleans on Monday, submerging entire neighborhoods up to their roofs, swamping Mississippi's beachfront casinos and killing at least 55 people.

Jim Pollard, spokesman for the Harrison County emergency operations center, said 50 people were killed by Katrina in his county, with most of the deaths at an apartment complex in Biloxi. Three other people were killed by falling trees in Mississippi and two died in a traffic accident in Alabama, authorities said.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 01:37 AM
The storm's impact is far from over. Forecasters say it could dump eight or more inches of rain in the Tennessee and Ohio Valleys.

http://www.wfmy.com/news/Topstory/topstory_article.aspx?storyid=47677

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 01:42 AM
They lined up by the thousands, clutching meager belongings and crying children. A few hours later, the power went out, turning the building into a hot and muggy mess. Then the part of the roof blew off.

As CBS News Correspondent Lee Cowan reports nearly 10,000 came to the Superdome with no where else to go. They were either too sick, too old or too poor to flee from the storm.

"They're in for another miserable night," Terry Ebbert, chief of homeland security for New Orleans, said Monday afternoon. But he later added: "They're safe."
http://wfrv.com/topstories/topstoriestv_story_242010342.html

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 01:50 AM
Hurricane Katrina left the French Quarter battered but still ready to party Monday, with the first bars on Bourbon Street serving up drinks by mid-afternoon, and locals and tourists venturing out in droves to gawk at what the storm left behind.

"We fared," said Jimmy Brennan, part-owner of the famous Brennan's Restaurant on Royal Street. "I hate to say it, but it turned into a hurricane party. ... We've had a great time."
http://www.kansas.com/mld/kansas/news/nation/12510004.htm

Dark Knight
08-30-2005, 02:02 AM
Early death toll is at 55 persons. Insurance claim estimates, according to the AP, could be $26 billion dollars, surpassing Andrew's $21 B.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 02:03 AM
BellSouth Corp., did not immediately quantify the extent of storm-related service disruptions.

Sprint Nextel Corp.'s long-distance switch in New Orleans failed soon after the storm hit.

AT&T Corp.'s facilities in the area were operating on backup generator power but some were completely down, likely because of flooding. Long-distance calls could not be properly relayed along AT&T's Gulf Coast fiber-optics routes.

AT&T's traffic-management software was able to reroute some calls when spare capacity existed elsewhere, but spokesman Jim Byrnes said thousands of calls still were failing to get through.

The company said Internet data networks were operating fine.

MCI Inc. spokeswoman Linda Laughlin said one fiber cable east of New Orleans was cut and other facilities had "some water issues." But she said customers faced at most a few seconds' delay as MCI rerouted calls to other cables.

There were no reports of the storm knocking down any cell phone towers, but many stopped working because of power problems.

Many of Sprint's cell towers in the New Orleans area switched to batteries or generators but could not be recharged because crews could not reach them, Fleckenstein said.

Cingular Wireless cellular customers were getting service at "significantly reduced levels" in the Biloxi, Miss., and New Orleans areas, with smaller interruptions reported in Jackson, Miss., Baton Rouge, La., and Mobile, Ala. The company blamed power outages.
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1078497

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 02:07 AM
They're safe, but miserable.

The eight- to nine-thousand people being sheltered in the Louisiana Superdome want out.
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/news.aspx?storyid=18222

Becba
08-30-2005, 03:28 AM
CNN is reporting their may be a breech in the levee of lake Ponchatrain. The hospital at Tulane University is reporting an inch of water every 5 min.

This means all the people on theor roofs may end up swimming for their lives.:(

We have friends in Gulfport that we don't know if they got out or not. Relatives in Biloxi. And my hubby's van was parked at a dock in Gulfport so we know it is gone. Insurance won't cover the value of it. Our deductable is more than the value. But what is funny is when we spoke of it we both just kind of said too bad. This storm has put things into perspective.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 03:53 AM
CNN is reporting their may be a breech in the levee of lake Ponchatrain. The hospital at Tulane University is reporting an inch of water every 5 min.

This means all the people on theor roofs may end up swimming for their lives.:(

We have friends in Gulfport that we don't know if they got out or not. Relatives in Biloxi. And my hubby's van was parked at a dock in Gulfport so we know it is gone. Insurance won't cover the value of it. Our deductable is more than the value. But what is funny is when we spoke of it we both just kind of said too bad. This storm has put things into perspective.

Are you safe?

Becba
08-30-2005, 04:01 AM
Are you safe?
Yes. I live on the beach in Panama City FL. Hubby is Captain of a research vessel that works out of Gulfport. That is why we lost the van.
We do have family and friends in Gulfport, Biloxi and areas of LA.
Could not get thru to them yesterday but that hopefully means they evacuated.
A woman on CNN just said all the homes in Ocean Springs are gone.
I am worried that the number of lives lost to this storm will be huge. And in New Orleans the breech to the levee is said to be 2 blocks long. All of NO will be underwater. Those that survived may die.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 04:12 AM
I just read an article about the superdome tonight about the conditions there. It said that some people were wanting to leave. I guess they thought they were safe now. I hope they weren't able to leave.
I posted some articles about phone service in the area, hoping it might help someone who is having difficulty getting through. Not sure how it could help, but...........

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 04:23 AM
Has anyone heard from Magnum PI?

Becba
08-30-2005, 05:43 AM
I just read an article about the superdome tonight about the conditions there. It said that some people were wanting to leave. I guess they thought they were safe now. I hope they weren't able to leave.
I posted some articles about phone service in the area, hoping it might help someone who is having difficulty getting through. Not sure how it could help, but...........

They won't let them go into the city yet.
I heard on CNN. They are hinting the broken levee will flood the superdome.
Seems the levee has such a breech that NO will all get swamped and the Superdome is one of the first areas.
I hate watching this.
I saw a man crying that his house split in two. He can't find his wife.
They are bringing people in on boats and lots are trapped. Everyone needs help and they have to get them a few at a time.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 06:21 AM
My local news was just on. They said that it is believed that about 80% of NO is under water to some degree due to the breech in the levees. Estimate costs at $26 billion. Katrina is now moving into Ohio- we are now under a flood watch. It is just starting to rain in Cincinnati. They are expecting 2-4 inches of rain in the next 24 hrs.
Cincy isn't covering much of Katrina as they are having their own minor disaster right now. A railroad car carrying styrene began to leak and they are having to keep it constantaly under spray to keep it cool as when it hits oxygen it becomes explosive. 850 homes have been evacuated.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 06:28 AM
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/nation/ny-usgulf304403789aug30,0,7345913.story?coll=ny-nationalnews-headlines

Mayor Ray Nagin said several bodies were seen floating in the Bywater and Eastover neighborhoods. An estimated 40,000 homes were flooded in St. Bernard Parish east of the city.

Red Cross shelters were filled in Mississippi. In Alabama, residents of coastal and low-lying areas were told to evacuate. Waves from Mobile Bay swamped downtown Mobile, Ala., with up to 11 feet of water, and at least two deaths from a highway wreck attributed to the weather were reported. Three nursing home patients in New Orleans died, apparently as a result of stress, as they were being evacuated. Elsewhere, officials said it was too early to state casualty numbers.

Buildings crumbled in Hattiesburg, Miss., about 90 miles north of New Orleans. In Biloxi, Miss., emergency management officials said Gulfport Memorial Hospital had suffered major damage.

Some casinos along Highway 90 were flooded, and the interstate was littered with boats and other debris. The Jackson County Emergency Management Agency relocated to the courthouse after the roof came off its building in Pascagoula, Miss.

Fatalities feared, unknown

Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour said the storm hit "like a ton of bricks," and he feared there could be "a lot of dead people" found along the coast once emergency workers were able to assess the situation.

"This is a devastating hit," said Gulfport Fire Chief Pat Sullivan. "What you're looking at is Camille II."

There was no indication when people would be able to return to their homes.

That could be awhile. Forecasters said Katrina, which was downgraded to a tropical storm last night, could spawn tornadoes as it crept northward and would bring heavy rains to the Tennessee Valley, the Ohio Valley and Great Lakes regions.

Bush administration officials said he was expected to use part of the country's 700 million barrels of emergency petroleum stockpiles to offset possible shortages caused by the storm.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-hurricane30aug30,1,2305594.story?coll=la-headlines-nation

In Wiggins, Miss., a hill community 20 miles north of Gulfport, Olene Walters, 56, one of the town's holdouts, ventured out into the winds and returned in shock.

The storm had stripped the roof off her beauty parlor and pulverized the Lake-A-Way RV Campgrounds she owns five miles outside of town.

Becba
08-30-2005, 06:36 AM
I have family in Biloxi and Pascagola. We can't contact them.

Here on the beach in FL we have still got rains and wind. Most of the electricity is out. Fortunate to have it here.
I want to go help. I guess they have enough volunteers. I did donate yesterday to the Redcross website.

The mayor of New Orleans says 80% of the city is underwater with some sections under 20 ft of water.
There is going to be massive deaths.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 06:36 AM
The breach triggered rapidly rising floodwaters in the city's downtown and prompted at least one hospital to evacuate patients by air.

The death toll was expected to climb from one of the most powerful hurricanes to hit the U.S. Gulf Coast in half a century. Fifty of the deaths occurred in one county in Mississippi, CNN confirmed.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin confirmed the breach in a local TV interview. City fire officials said the break was about 200 feet long in the levee surrounding the 17th Street Canal.

"The city of New Orleans is in a state of devastation. We probably have 80 percent of our city underwater. With some sections of our city, the water is as deep as 20 feet."

The state Department of Emergency Preparedness said the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was holding a meeting on the breach.

A hospital across from Tulane, Charity Hospital, was evacuating its 90 patients by air, she said. The hospitals are in the city's central business district.

Water at Tulane's hospital had been rising at the rate of a foot an hour, Caraway said, and had reached the top of the first floor.

"It's dumping all the lake water in Orleans Parish," she said. "It's essentially running down Canal Street. We have whitecaps on Canal Street.

"We now are completely surrounded by 6 feet of water and are about to get on the phone with Federal Emergency Management Agency to start talking about evacuation plans," Caraway said.

"The water is rising so fast, I can't even begin to describe how fast it is rising."

She did not know whether any pumps had been turned on to pump the water but said, "They're not going to be able to compete with Lake Pontchartrain."

The storm's survivors face months of displacement.

The Federal Emergency Management Agency is preparing to house "at least tens of thousands of victims ... for literally months on end," the agency's director, Michael Brown, said Monday night.

Lakes and rivers were still spilling over levees late Monday, and "it's going to get worse before it gets better," Brown said.

Veteran FEMA staffers who have surveyed the destruction are reporting some of the worst damage they have ever seen, he said.

The American Red Cross said it is launching the largest relief operation in its history.

Blanco said she had ordered state police to block re-entry routes to all but emergency workers. She said preliminary reports indicate Katrina "devastated" parts of at least six parishes in Louisiana.

In Mississippi, streets and homes were flooded as far as 6 miles inland, and the eastbound lanes of Interstate 10 between Gulfport and Biloxi were impassable because of storm debris.

Both states experienced looting.

A crowd of about 50 to 75 people swarmed through a supermarket in New Orleans, taking out shopping carts full of goods before police arrived.

Looting was reported by police in Gulfport, where the storm surge left downtown streets under 10 feet of water.

Katrina's outer bands spawned tornados in Georgia Monday evening. Three twisters were reported in Georgia, one in central Peach County and two in the northwest counties of Carroll and Paulding. One person in Carroll County was critically injured.

After topping levees in New Orleans, Katrina inundated the Louisiana and Mississippi coasts with a 20-foot storm surge.

In Mobile, Alabama, the storm pushed water from Mobile Bay into downtown, submerging large sections of the city, and officials imposed a dusk-to-dawn curfew.

An oil drilling platform broke away from its moorings and lodged under a bridge that carries U.S. Highway 98 over the Mobile River.
http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WEATHER/08/30/katrina/

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 06:48 AM
I have family in Biloxi and Pascagola. We can't contact them.

Here on the beach in FL we have still got rains and wind. Most of the electricity is out. Fortunate to have it here.
I want to go help. I guess they have enough volunteers. I did donate yesterday to the Redcross website.

The mayor of New Orleans says 80% of the city is underwater with some sections under 20 ft of water.
There is going to be massive deaths.

I haven't heard anything on Pascagola, but Biloxi got hit hard. I bolded in a couple of the above articles, because you said you had family or friends in Gulfport.

Becba
08-30-2005, 06:50 AM
See I don't know how or where my hubby will work now. His van was in Gulfport, his boat works from many ports but all the ports are torn up, all the research people employeed were sent home. He doesn't even know where he can dock the boat and he is 4 states away from home.

The homeland security Nazis boarded today since they came in the other night without a 48 hr requisit. They told them they were classified as a foreign vessle and would be seized or sent out to sea at their discretion.
Hubby showed all the paper work yet they didn't stop bullying til they contacted his office.
I want to cry ever time I see the man on CNN saying he lost his wife seeking help on his roof. She told him to take care of the kids and grandkids.
I think he said his name was Harley Jackson? It was so sad.

Becba
08-30-2005, 06:53 AM
I haven't heard anything on Pascagola, but Biloxi got hit hard. I bolded in a couple of the above articles, because you said you had family or friends in Gulfport.
Thank you.
We know Gulfport is under water approx. 5 miles inland. Pascaguola is near by.
We have checked everything. Because the ones we called did not answer before the storm we hope they got out. One family friend has a wife who is very sick.
I don't know he could move her.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 06:59 AM
See I don't know how or where my hubby will work now. His van was in Gulfport, his boat works from many ports but all the ports are torn up, all the research people employeed were sent home. He doesn't even know where he can dock the boat and he is 4 states away from home.

The homeland security Nazis boarded today since they came in the other night without a 48 hr requisit. They told them they were classified as a foreign vessle and would be seized or sent out to sea at their discretion.
Hubby showed all the paper work yet they didn't stop bullying til they contacted his office.
I want to cry ever time I see the man on CNN saying he lost his wife seeking help on his roof. She told him to take care of the kids and grandkids.
I think he said his name was Harley Jackson? It was so sad.

There are going to be a whole lot of sad stories for the next week. First will be reports of damage and body counts (they are expecting them to be high). I fear the flooding will get worse next week with the flooding they are expecting up here will drift back down the Mississippi. Then will be peoples stories in the shelter, then people going back to no homes, then finally there will be stories of help, of miricles, of survivals, and of recovery. It is devastating and no one can change that. But it is survivable, and they will recover.

Dark Knight
08-30-2005, 07:10 AM
65 fatalities, so far, with massive flooding of New Orleans beginning due to the breeches of the levees that happened overnight. New evacuations are starting, as a result.

Dark Knight
08-30-2005, 07:13 AM
LOL! Mysteriew is so far ahead of my news updates I will just let her handle it, rather than practically repeating what she posts, lol! You go, girl! http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/blowkises.gif

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 07:17 AM
LOL! Mysteriew is so far ahead of my news updates I will just let her handle it, rather than practically repeating what she posts, lol! You go, girl! http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/blowkises.gif

I got called the seeker the other day (LOL, it wasn't meant as a compliment). Guess that is what I am though. If I can't be there, I want to see or read about it. What I read, I often post- if pertinent to something on here.

Dark Knight
08-30-2005, 07:19 AM
I got called the seeker the other day (LOL, it wasn't meant as a compliment). Guess that is what I am though. If I can't be there, I want to see or read about it. What I read, I often post- if pertinent to something on here.
I am duly impressed, lol! http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif Thanks for keeping everyone so well informed!!! You should be in news!

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 07:35 AM
I am duly impressed, lol! http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif Thanks for keeping everyone so well informed!!! You should be in news!

If I was to do it all over again, I would.
Mainly I just have some good sources, that makes it easy.

RiverRat
08-30-2005, 08:10 AM
Speaking from Charley experience.......initial reports regarding body bags and fatality numbers were no where near reality, so I am hoping this turns out the same.......even after seeing how utterly devestating this storm was.

RR

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 08:47 AM
One of the reports I saw on TV they were interviewing a resident of Biloxi, Ms. He said that they were totally unprepared. People were leaving NO and some ended up in Biloxi trying to leave the hurricane behind. Instead they took a hit. I am still not seeing too many broadcasts out of NO. What I am seeing is whole blocks just absolutely leveled. Lots of debris, but few buildings.

mysteriew
08-30-2005, 09:03 AM
As dawn broke over the ravaged Gulf Coast on Tuesday, rescuers in boats and helicopters furiously searched for survivors of Hurricane Katrina. The governor said the death toll in just one Mississippi county could be as high as 80.

``The devastation down there is just enormous,'' Gov. Haley Barbour said Tuesday on NBC's ``Today'' show.

Barbour said there were unconfirmed reports of up to 80 fatalities in Harrison County, which contains Gulfport and Biloxi, and the number was likely to rise.

``We know that there is a lot of the coast that we have not been able to get to,'' Barbour said. ``I hate to say it, but it looks like it is a very bad disaster in terms of human life.''

Tree trucks, downed power lines and chunks of broken concrete that littered streets hampered rescue efforts. Swirling water in many areas hid submerged dangers.

Mississippi Emergency Management Agency officials refused to confirm the deaths.

The total does not include 11 deaths in South Florida when a much-weaker Katrina first made landfall last week.

In New Orleans, residents who had ridden out the brunt of Katrina now faced a second more insidious threat as two different levee breaches sent a churning sea of water from Lake Pontchartrain coursing through city streets Tuesday.

Katrina knocked out power to more than a million people from Louisiana to the Florida Panhandle, and authorities said it could be two months before electricity is restored to everyone. Katrina disrupted Gulf Coast petroleum output and rattled energy markets.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uslatest/story/0,1282,-5242855,00.html

NewMom2003
08-30-2005, 09:20 AM
I was listening to the news reports while driving into work this morning. Devastating. I pray for all of those affected by this. :angel:

kgeaux
08-30-2005, 09:34 AM
I posted a long update yesterday, but it's not appearing in the thread, so I must've done something wrong. (wouldn't be the first time!)

There seems to be a little confusion as to where I'm located, but I'm in Lafayette, not Baton Rouge. Lafayette is northwest of BR. The 35 miles east that Katrina chose to hit land made all the difference for my area. We had some gusty wind, but I don't think we hit anywhere near the 60mph that had been forecast. I think we had less than 1 inch of rain----I'll have to get out and water my potted plants later! I have heard that some people have some tree branches down, but Lilly cleaned out our trees pretty well when she came through, so I don't think there's any real damage to speak of.

I have family in BR. She lost a tree, but Praise God, it did not fall on her home or vehicle. She & her family are safe, and that's whats important! My MIL has a vacation condo in Gulfport, MS. (She's here with us in Laf, she is safe.) We haven't been able to learn anything about the condo. But since it is across the highway from the beach, I'm thinking it's gone. Can't get through to anyone to ask.

My across the street neighbor has all her family from New Orleans staying with her. There's about 8 cars, but I think only 5 families! None of them know yet if they have homes to go back to. Spirits are high, they are alive and houses can be replaced. The things they saved: pictures of their babies, marriage and birth certificates, school mementos from when the kids were young! They grabbed what could not be replaced and escaped.

I have been watching the news and it is unbelievable how much destruction this storm caused. My God! How many lives will end up being lost?

I have been doing some serious thinking about how we handle these emergencies in Louisiana. I think ALL major cities along evacuation routes should be required to open the doors to any and all refuge centers. We were blessed that churches opened their doors, but there were still people sleeping on the grass surrounding the Walmart parking lot. That ought not to be.

Shadow205
08-30-2005, 09:35 AM
Can anyone post a link for a good source of info on the Mobile area. I have a Great Aunt who is in her late 90's and lives alone in Mobile. I am not sure how far inland she is but from looking at her adress on mapquest not far. She lives just NW of I-10. The star on the map is her address.

http://mq-mapgend.websys.aol.com/?e=9&GetMapDirect=Gme5diw%2ca%3a9u12%3b%40%24xu%2dzsgz7 2%26%3dyg%216txh67%3a5%2d1xu48s%26y%40gu48sd%40b5g yza%26u2gu%2c2%3a9672%3b%40b20w%24%3a%26%40%24xu%2 dzsgz72%26%3dyg%216tx067%3a%26%4025u6%40l%3b%40zau u%24%3a

nanandjim
08-30-2005, 09:36 AM
Has Ntegrity posted lately? She lives in the FWB area. I'm wondering how much damage there was in that area.

Becba
08-30-2005, 09:58 AM
Speaking from Charley experience.......initial reports regarding body bags and fatality numbers were no where near reality, so I am hoping this turns out the same.......even after seeing how utterly devestating this storm was.

RRBody bags is your estimate?
This storm is going to take all the body bags there are.
I live around there.
Lots of people are dead. More than you want to think about.
Not just the guy that served anyone a drink. It is him and his whole family.
There is no way to touch what is lost.

Shadow205
08-30-2005, 10:05 AM
Body bags is your estimate?
This storm is going to take all the body bags there are.
I live around there.
Lots of people are dead. More than you want to think about.
Not just the guy that served anyone a drink. It is him and his whole family.
There is no way to touch what is lost.
Becba, what specific area are you referring to? I am glad that you are safe and hope that all of your family & friends are too.

Jules
08-30-2005, 10:08 AM
We have heard from my sister-in-law. She lives in Mandeville (St. Tammany Parrish) which sustained major damage. She went to her in-laws in Hammond, but they are heading our way (Houston) as they will be without power for quite some time. They were wanting to try to get to their house to check damage, but it doesn't appear they will be able to get through.

No word yet on the in-laws. Last time someone spoke to them was yesterday morning. They were fine at that point. They left La Place (west of New Orleans about 20 miles) and headed up to Jackson, Mississippi. At 4:15 yesterday, the eye of the storm was over Jackson. So, we have no idea how they faired.

Keep the prayers coming. I'm sure many will need them.

Marthatex
08-30-2005, 10:11 AM
Think of Tulane Hospital. It is being flooded; they have moved the emergency patients up to second floor. Evidently a levee has broken and the Tulane area is flooding fast.

I am reading on CNN that 55 died in Mississippi - why didn't they evacuate Biloxi?

Lesleegp
08-30-2005, 10:16 AM
Think of Tulane Hospital. It is being flooded; they have moved the emergency patients up to second floor. Evidently a levee has broken and the Tulane area is flooding fast.

I am reading on CNN that 55 died in Mississippi - why didn't they evacuate Biloxi?

Drudge report says the death toll is up to 80 in Mississippi. Sad.

amandab
08-30-2005, 10:19 AM
Think of Tulane Hospital. It is being flooded; they have moved the emergency patients up to second floor. Evidently a levee has broken and the Tulane area is flooding fast.

I am reading on CNN that 55 died in Mississippi - why didn't they evacuate Biloxi?

Pardon my geographic ignorance; where is Tulane hospital in relation to everything else?

Becba
08-30-2005, 10:26 AM
Think of Tulane Hospital. It is being flooded; they have moved the emergency patients up to second floor. Evidently a levee has broken and the Tulane area is flooding fast.

I am reading on CNN that 55 died in Mississippi - why didn't they evacuate Biloxi?They did. they told them to get out. When most of them tried to leave they got stuck in traffic and went back home.
You can be sure you will be stuck in 15 to 20 hrs traffic just attempting to leave a town. People give up and don't want to be stuck in their cars and turn back. No state will report on this because honestly they should be sued.
You want to leave and they will not open another lane until the storm is on you. People attempt to weather it out and hope for help.
Evacuating is a bad joke.

Shadow205
08-30-2005, 10:26 AM
Pardon my geographic ignorance; where is Tulane hospital in relation to everything else?
Here is a map to show you Tulane hospital

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&1ahXX=&address=1430+Tulane+Ave&city=New+Orleans&state=LA&zipcode=

Shadow205
08-30-2005, 10:28 AM
On FOX news now they are saying that the water is rising in the business district of New Orleans and they don't know why. They are telling everyone to get out if you can get out. They have declared Marshal Law.

amandab
08-30-2005, 10:32 AM
On FOX news now they are saying that the water is rising in the business district of New Orleans and they don't know why. They are telling everyone to get out if you can get out. They have declared Marshal Law.

OMG that's horrifying.......shudder....

Thanks for the Tulane map, by the way,

amandab
08-30-2005, 10:36 AM
Here is a map to show you Tulane hospital

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&searchtype=address&country=US&addtohistory=&1ahXX=&address=1430+Tulane+Ave&city=New+Orleans&state=LA&zipcode=

This looks pretty close to the Superdome - are the people there at risk??

lisa0477
08-30-2005, 10:39 AM
Has Ntegrity posted lately? She lives in the FWB area. I'm wondering how much damage there was in that area.


I live close to her, and we did pretty good. I have not driven around very many places though.

Ntegrity
08-30-2005, 10:41 AM
Has Ntegrity posted lately? She lives in the FWB area. I'm wondering how much damage there was in that area.
Hi, I'm here :) No major damage to this area although the winds were much higher than I expected -- considering we're 200 miles from Nawlins. I've heard there was more damage to our poor beaches and most of the sand brought in after Ivan & Dennis is gone again!! Highway 98 between Ft. Walton Beach and Destin was breached but I haven't heard if it's usable. I think not since there was lots of traffic coming through Niceville this morning. I feel so bad for the people to the west of us. It's a gosh awful situation.