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Richard
09-14-2005, 01:36 AM
Greene County (TN) Jane Doe, age 15-17 Murdered March 1985

Unidentified White Female
Found on April 14, 1985 in rural Greene County, Tennessee.
(Greene County is in eastern Tennessee. It borders North Carolina and is south of Virginia.)
Cause of death is trauma to the head.
Estimated time of death is 3 to 6 weeks.
Vital Statistics
Estimated age: 15 - 17 years old.
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'5" - 5'6" (165-168 cm); 130 - 140 lbs. (59-64 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair with reddish tints.
Clothing: No clothing or jewelry was found with the victim.
Dentals: She had a slight overbite.
DNA: Available
Other: She was approximately 6 weeks pregnant.

Case History
The victim was located beside I-75 in rural Greene County in April 1985.

If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse (toll-free) 800-346-3243 Or
Tennessee Bureau of Investigation 800-824-3463

Agency Case Number: U9401001
NCIC Number: N/A

Source Information:
Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
The Doe Network: Case File 264UFTN

Link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

carolina
09-16-2005, 04:07 PM
i wonder if they have looked at this one?

http://charleyproject.org/cases/b/burnette_mary.html

i loked pretty hard and there arent a lot of possibilities i could come up with. this one looked good nbut unoless the date on her disappearnace is wrong it is too late.

http://charleyproject.org/cases/g/green_martha.html

mere
09-16-2005, 04:29 PM
It does look good. With her parents not reporting her missing until 1989 we don't know how accurate that information would be.

LillyRush
09-16-2005, 05:35 PM
i wonder if they have looked at this one?

http://charleyproject.org/cases/b/burnette_mary.html
I think she resembles this first one that you found, the years and ages line up too. Plus, she remained in a geographical comfort zone, only going from Alabama to TN. Not a far trek, and if she had gotten pregnant she would have had to slow down anwyay. Have you sent this in as a tip?

carolina
09-20-2005, 04:50 PM
no i sure haven't. if y'all think it is worth checking i will though...do you think i should email the doe network or coosa county? or both?

shadowangel
09-20-2005, 06:45 PM
I looked on the map, I-75 doesn't go through Greene County. Was I-80 re-named at some point?

carolina
09-22-2005, 11:14 AM
I looked on the map, I-75 doesn't go through Greene County. Was I-80 re-named at some point?
you're right, it is nowhere near it at all. i am going to bother the doe network on this one right now.

shadowangel
09-22-2005, 12:56 PM
The reason I'm curious is that this young lady

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/26ufga.html

was found only a couple of years later along I-59 in GA, just south of the TN border. Follow I-59 a little north into TN, and you're on I-75. The girls share a lot of physical characteristics. I was originally looking at this young lady as a possible victim of Franklin Floyd. Does anyone know of other UIDs found in this area and time frame, or missing girls in the area?

mere
09-23-2005, 09:50 AM
I 75 goes right through Union City. This was in 1975 though.

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/210dfga.html

carolina
09-23-2005, 01:19 PM
well there goes being productive for me forr the rest of the day. i am currently printing out maps. and i am about to get on charley project and doe for ther rest of the day.

Richard
09-24-2005, 06:22 PM
I wonder if it might also be of benefit in a case such as this one to also do a sort on NCMEC, Doenet, etc for other Jane Does of a similar description, or similar injuries, etc. Not with the initial purpose of learning this girl's identification, but perhaps to find other victims of the same killer.

Sometimes finding such links to two or more cases might reveal possible suspects or geographic locations/jurisdictions.

shadowangel
09-25-2005, 01:49 PM
From the Doe Network....

"An official with the Campbell County [TN] Sheriff's Department stated that a possible serial killer worked the area of I-75 in the late 1990s. Authorities believe the murderer(s) may have picked up victims from nearby establishments and and disposed of the remains off of the interstate."

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/181uftn.html
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/223uftn.html


I think they didn't look back far enough....

PonderingThings
03-08-2006, 08:11 PM
New reconstruction for one of the Jane Doe's

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/264uftn.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/264uftn.html)

anthrobones
07-09-2006, 05:35 PM
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html





Unidentified White Female

Found on April 14, 1985 in rural Greene County, Tennessee.
Cause of death is trauma to the head.
Estimated time of death is 3 to 6 weeks.




Vital Statistics




Estimated age: 15 - 17 years old.
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'5" - 5'6" (165-168 cm); 130 - 140 lbs. (59-64 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: Brown hair with reddish tints.
Clothing: No clothing or jewelry was found with the victim.
Dentals: She had a slight overbite.
DNA: Available
Other: She was approximately 6 weeks pregnant.

Case History
The victim was located beside I-81 in rural Greene County in April 1985.

Richard
07-04-2007, 06:52 PM
Here is an updated link to the unidentified girl found in Greene County, Tennessee in March 1985:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

This area is in the vicinity of the North Carolina, Virginia, and Tennessee borders.

Fred Howard Coffey, Jr. is the primary suspect in the murder of a little 8-year-old boy in Bristol, VA killed in 1986. Bristol is on the border of Tennessee and Virginia, and it is Fred's hometown.

In 1987, Coffey was convicted of murdering a 10-year-old girl in NC in 1979, and of molesting three children in 1986. He admitted to having molested over 100 children, and most likely killed others as well.

I wonder if this girl might be one of his victims?

Richard
08-10-2007, 07:25 PM
How does this look as a possible match of a missing person to this Jane Doe? Compare the photos and artists conception drawings/ sculpture photos.

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Mary Jo Burnette, 16 Missing about June 1, 1984 from Rockford, AL

Mary Jo Burnette
Missing since about June 1, 1984 from Rockford, Coosa County, Alabama.
Classification: Endangered Runaway

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: October 18, 1967
Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4" (163 cm); 90 lbs (41 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
Marks, Scars: She has a scar on her left knee and a scar on her left calf. She may wear glasses.
Dentals: Available. Somewhat crooked teeth to include a very protruding right upper central incisor.
AKA: She may go by the nickname Joe.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Burnette was last seen on June 1, 1984. She may be in the Atlanta, Georgia area. She may be traveling with a male companion. Mary was arrested in 1984 but the family did not report her as missing until 1989 and the June 1 date is a guess. She may have been seen in Florida.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact: Coosa County Sheriff's Office 256-377-4922

NCMEC #: NCMC869473
NCIC Number: M-189763810
Please refer to these numbers when contacting any agency with information regarding this case.

Source Information:
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
The Doe Network: Case File 1403DFAL

LINK:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1403dfal.html

Richard
03-06-2008, 10:22 AM
bumping case up. Any thoughts about a possible match between Greene County Jane Doe and Mary Jo Burnette?

Mary Jo Burnette
Missing since June 1, 1984 from Rockford, Coosa County, Alabama.
Classification: Endangered Runaway
The Doe Network: Case File 1403DFAL

LINK:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1403dfal.html

kandoo76
03-06-2008, 10:39 AM
Is this one a possibility? http://police.nashville.org/get_involved/missing/jenniferwyant.htm

Lisahas2cats
03-06-2008, 11:20 AM
Mary Jo's teeth make me wonder about her as a possible match for the I-59 Jane Doe mentioned in post #8. Her frame size makes it not as likely, as I-59 Jane Doe was physically larger......otoh, Mary Jo could have grown some if she was alive from the date of her disappearance till 1988.

Rle7
05-18-2008, 12:00 PM
TBI is once again looking at a 23-year-old cold case. Investigators hope if they put it back in the public eye, they will get fresh leads and be able to officially reopen the case.

A teenager found her body on April 14th, 1985 at exit 44 off Interstate 81 in Greene County.

The victim would be almost 40 years old today.

Agents believe “Jane Doe” was between 15 and 17 at the time of her murder.

News Channel 11 spoke with the man who found her body and the officer who responded to the 9-1-1 call.

http://www.tricities.com/tri/news/local/article/man_who_discovered_body_talks_about_the_cold_case/9604/

ShowerSinger
06-06-2008, 12:38 AM
This was an interesting find. The nude remains were found in Tennessee, but for some reason, they are saying she has some sort of connection to Texas. Please look at the clay rendering.

www.wacotrib.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/communities/breakingnews/entries/2008/06/04 (http://www.wacotrib.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/communities/breakingnews/entries/2008/06/04)

scroll down to read the entry.
Having trouble linking it.
If anyone else can, please do.
Thanks :)

barb0301
06-06-2008, 01:59 AM
I had seen this on another site, no explanation for why the connection to Texas. hmmmmmmmmmmm, interesting.

Here's the direct link to this article, I think: http://www.wacotrib.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/communities/breakingnews/entries/2008/06/04/dps_seeks_help_identifying_wom.html


And the one I found it on: http://carey2.blogspot.com/2008/06/state-investigators-need-your-help-do.html

barb0301
06-06-2008, 03:14 AM
I did some searching and turned in the following:

#1
Sondra Kay Ramber -
Name: Sondra Kay Ramber
Case Number: M9101011
Case Type: Involuntary - Non-Family Abduction
Last Seen in: Santa Fe (Galveston County)
Last Seen on: 10/26/1983
Height: 5' 5 "
Weight: 123 lbs.
Age Missing: 14
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Brown
Date of Birth: 1/2/1969
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Unknown

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/11/200110:54:13AM' (mhtml:{C86D7659-09BF-47BA-BFF6-9BCA6912CA4F}mid://00000631/!x-usc:http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/11/200110:54:13AM')


#2
Name: Kathleen Laura Ranft
Case Number: M8608002
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Sequin (Guadalupe County)
Last Seen on: 4/5/1985
Height: 5' 6 "
Weight: 130 lbs.
Name: Kathleen Laura Ranft
Case Number: M8608002
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Sequin (Guadalupe County)
Last Seen on: 4/5/1985
Height: 5' 6 "
Weight: 130 lbs.
Age Missing: 29 (note that age is way off, but everything else, including dates, are very close)
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 2/18/1956
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Ranft’s vehicle was found abandoned at the “Country Cabaret”, a local nightclub. Dental information is available.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/3/20013:06:00PM' (mhtml:{C86D7659-09BF-47BA-BFF6-9BCA6912CA4F}mid://00000631/!x-usc:http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/3/20013:06:00PM')


#3
Name: Kim Sue Leggett
Case Number: M8803022
Case Type: Endangered - Foul Play Possible
Last Seen in: Mercedes (Hidalgo County)
Last Seen on: 10/9/1984
Height: 5' 6 "
Weight: 110 lbs.
Age Missing: 21 (age is off a few years, but everything else fits)
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 12/27/1962
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Mrs. Leggett disappeared from the Ross Cotton Gin, her place of employment, between 4:30 p.m. and 4:45 p.m. She was last seen talking to two male subjects outside. On the same date at approximately 4:45 p.m., her parents received two phone calls to the effect that their daughter had been kidnapped. Mrs. Leggett's family drove to the Ross Cotton Gin, which is owned by Mrs. Leggett's father-in-law, and found her car with her purse and keys in it.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M2/25/200211:04:11AM' (mhtml:{C86D7659-09BF-47BA-BFF6-9BCA6912CA4F}mid://00000631/!x-usc:http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M2/25/200211:04:11AM')




#4
Name: Terrie Lynn Hefner
AKA: Terrie Davis
Case Number: M9812004
Case Type: Endangered
Last Seen in: Dallas (Dallas County)
Last Seen on: 4/1/1984
Height: 5' 5 "
Weight: 120 lbs.
Age Missing: 21 (age off a bit)
Eye Color: Brown
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 8/11/1964
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Hefner may have a chipped front tooth and a mole on her right cheek. She may have traveled to Louisiana. (tooth and mole not mentioned on UID, but possible)
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Blonde
Date of Birth: 2/18/1956
Race: White
Sex: Female
State Missing From: Texas
Country Missing From: USA
Circumstances: Ms. Ranft’s vehicle was found abandoned at the “Country Cabaret”, a local nightclub. Dental information is available.
http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/9/20012:58:05PM' (mhtml:{C86D7659-09BF-47BA-BFF6-9BCA6912CA4F}mid://00000631/!x-usc:http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/mpch/mpdetails.asp?id='M10/9/20012:58:05PM')

Peter J.
06-06-2008, 08:08 AM
Barb. your # 1, Sondra Kay Ramber, would fit.

Sondra’s age, height, and weight fit.(her weight gain could be due to pregnancy)
Sondra’s rounded chin, straight nose, and relatively small mouth, seem to match the clay reconstruction.

Let me Speculate on a reason for her disappearance. Sondra knew and possibly was having sex with a adult male. He either lured or forced her to leave home, then he moved her out of state. Subsaquently she became pregnant but she miscarried or had the child aborted.

barb0301
07-21-2008, 01:57 AM
Duplicate thread w/ "TN looks for identity of female child skeletal remains from 1985"
Should we see if we can get these 2 threads merged?

bluestarzz
08-06-2008, 10:14 PM
http://www.wbir.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=57983


The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation is working to identify a teenager found 23 years ago along an East Tennessee interstate. Her body was naked and badly decomposed.
"This is one of those things, if you are an agent or an investigator in law enforcement, and you have a case that you have never been able to close, that's something you live with your entire life," TBI spokesperson Kristin Helm said. "You just don't forget about that person."
For some TBI investigators, that person was a teenaged girl found on April 14, 1985 in Greene County.
A 15-year-old fishing near exit 44 on I-81 smelled something dead, then discovered the body.
"It's estimated she had been out in the elements in the springtime for three to six weeks," Helm said. "When you have a body that's that decomposed, it's difficult to identify that person."
An autopsy revealed the badly beaten girl was 15 to 17 years old, weighed about 140 lbs, and stood 5'5.
She had curly light brown to dark blonde hair and had recently been pregnant but never gave birth.

bumping for this unidentified...think was here before mods, but couldnt find, please combine is was
bluestarzz

dearmont
03-09-2009, 05:39 PM
Possible match to Greene Co UID - anyone?

Sharon Zelinski McCully
Missing since December 11, 1984 from Austin, Travis County, Texas.



Date Of Birth: July 1, 1959
Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6"; 130 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes. She wears contact lenses.
Tattoos: Tattoo of a yellow and red rose on her abdomen.
Dentals: Available
Clothing: Dark blue slacks with white pin stripes, an unknown color of blouse, and white tennis shoes with red stripes.
AKA: Sarah
McCully was last seen at Howard Lane and Interstate 35. She was on a Christmas shopping trip, and had just left her husband after a lunch date. Her Volkswagen was seen on Bee Cave Road that day, and in the area where Barton Creek Square is now located. It was found at an apartment complex on Research Boulevard. She was a nurse with hopes of going to medical school.
A resident told police she saw a woman fitting McCully's description getting out of the car with a man, but the tip didn't develop. Fingerprints were found on her car but there hasn't been enough physical evidence to link anyone ot the crime.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1114dftx.html

anthrobones
08-29-2009, 11:16 PM
Bumping up

OC Lady
11-27-2009, 02:42 PM
Bumping for this young girl

Danaya
11-27-2009, 03:58 PM
Thanks. How tragic, what a short life. I will search for her on doe network.

Danaya
11-27-2009, 04:01 PM
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html More pictures at this link including reconstruction (kinda creepy looking if you ask me).



Top Row : Reconstruction of Victim
Bottom Row : Reconstructions of Victim by Joanna J. Hughes

Unidentified White Female

Found on April 14, 1985 in rural Greene County, Tennessee.
Cause of death is trauma to the head.
Estimated time of death is 3 to 6 weeks.
Decomposed Remains


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Vital Statistics


Estimated age: 15 - 20 years old.
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'5"-5'6" (66.5" est)(165-168 cm); 130 - 140 lbs. (59-64 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: Light Brown or dark blonde hair with reddish tints, shoulder length. Silvery pink nail polish.
Clothing: No clothing or jewelry was found with the victim.
Fingerprints: Available
Dentals: Available, She had a slight overbite.
DNA: Available - University North Texas
Other: She was approximately 6 weeks pregnant.


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Case History
The victim was located beside southbound Jeraldstown exit to I-81 in rural Greene County in April 1985, by a 15 year old fishing near exit 44. The body was found approximately 58 feet off the southbound Exit 44 entrance ramp. She was badly beaten. There was no physical evidence at the scene.

At the time, there were several women found dead along the nation's busy highways. The crimes were dubbed the red-headed murders. They were thought to be the work of a truck driver. It is not confirmed if this girl was one of them.



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Danaya
11-27-2009, 04:15 PM
I've been searching all the Southern states for missing young women between 83-85. What do you think of this missing 18 year old from Oklahoma? Compare her to the reconstruction.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

believe09
11-27-2009, 04:22 PM
I've been searching all the Southern states for missing young women between 83-85. What do you think of this missing 18 year old from Oklahoma? Compare her to the reconstruction.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html
This is the link for the UID i think...

Danaya
11-27-2009, 05:17 PM
Oopsie okay here

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/2432dfok.html

Compare her to the reconstruction

Danaya
11-27-2009, 05:38 PM
Sides by side

believe09
11-27-2009, 06:21 PM
Sides by side

I think the face shape of the doe is longer and thinner, but OH MY LAND what a beautiful girl the candidate is!!!

I would be looking at the last relative to see her or the step dad but perhaps that is the hinkey meter in me....that is one long bus ride, and OK to Louisiana to Mexico??? For a camping trip??

Danaya
11-27-2009, 07:15 PM
Okay Ill look again when I have time... I've looked through most of the southern states and very few missing women in that time period, all are either past 30 or african american. This young lady is the most likely that I saw.

JulieR
11-27-2009, 11:07 PM
Anyone think she looks like her.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stasi_lisa.html

quiqui
11-28-2009, 12:08 AM
Anyone think she looks like her.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stasi_lisa.html

^ That is such a sad story! Her poor daughter must be so upset to learn her past.

For me, the one thing that points to it not being a match is the height difference (Lisa Stasi is listed as 5'11'' while the Jane Doe is 5'5'' to 5'6'').

believe09
11-28-2009, 09:33 AM
Anyone think she looks like her.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stasi_lisa.html

WHAT A STORY-that is a whole lot of effort to go through to steal a baby however....

Danaya
11-28-2009, 05:55 PM
I saw her but didn't think she looked like the UID at all. I thought the one I found really did but does anyone else think she did? The side by side?

OC Lady
11-28-2009, 07:08 PM
since she was found close to an interstate highway and might have been traveling with a trucker, I suppose she could be form anywhere *sigh*

this will take some real digging!!

mysticrose
11-28-2009, 07:28 PM
Anyone think she looks like her.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/stasi_lisa.html

I wanted to do a side by side of these two to compare:

mysticrose
11-28-2009, 09:47 PM
So I have been thinking about this case and wonder since it has been 24 years and she hasn't been identified if she had been kidnapped and held for awhile. The pregnancy may have been what sparked the killing.
Just a thought...she could be from anywhere.
Here is a gal taken from Salt Lake City , UT in July 1984. She woulld have been 17 at the time she went missing, she was hitchhiking her height and weight are close.

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=601379&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

Now this second woman she would have been 14 when she went missing in Aug 1983. She was from CO. Although the height says 5'4 she could have grown some if she was being held...I dont know they ae long shots and I will keep looking...It is really hard when you have reconstructions because it can vary enough that she may be being overlooked...

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=603363&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

JulieR
11-28-2009, 11:00 PM
I think the 2nd ones face shape and nose looks like it could be her. I don't put much faith in the height and weight. I wonder if the UIF picture is using the real teeth?

justthinkin
11-29-2009, 04:25 PM
The two reconstructions look like very different people to me. The top one looks much older than the bottom one, and the bottom one's hair texture should make her easy to spot. Only problem is which likeness is more correct? Until we know that, it's going to make this tough to solve.

I just got through looking at a number of UIDs from TN from this same time period, and the person doing the reconstruction seems to be bringing something from her own psyche into these reconstructions because they all look very similar. Therefore, I think we need to work with the photo reconstruction more so that the sculpted version. JMO.

LovinTK
11-29-2009, 04:43 PM
Does anyone think it could possibly be this girl?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hall_billie.html

LovinTK
11-29-2009, 04:49 PM
How about this girl? I know from the time she went missing that it would be cutting it pretty close to be the JD but her hair and the hair in the reconstruction looks identical to me. I also see similarities in their facial features.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wilson_karen.html

Danaya
11-29-2009, 06:42 PM
Does anyone think it could possibly be this girl?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/h/hall_billie.html

No. One thing to look for is distinguising characteristics. This missing girl had a metal plate in her skull and some other things the UID doesn't.

Danaya
11-29-2009, 06:44 PM
How about this girl? I know from the time she went missing that it would be cutting it pretty close to be the JD but her hair and the hair in the reconstruction looks identical to me. I also see similarities in their facial features.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/wilson_karen.html

No, she was abducted in NY and it's so far from where the UID was found. Doubt the killer would transport her or a body so far.

LovinTK
11-29-2009, 10:41 PM
No. One thing to look for is distinguising characteristics. This missing girl had a metal plate in her skull and some other things the UID doesn't.

Thank you. I do look for distinguishing characteristics but somehow I missed that earlier. I haven't been able to concentrate all day so I'm glad you pointed that out.

LovinTK
11-29-2009, 10:56 PM
No, she was abducted in NY and it's so far from where the UID was found. Doubt the killer would transport her or a body so far.

I don't mean to sound like I'm arguing with you but the more I look at the reconstruction of the UID the more I believe she looks like Karen Wilson. I know that it's unlikely because of the distance but stranger things have happened. The police believe that Karen Wilson was abducted near the entrance ramp to a highway and if she had been killed and then transported in the trunk of a car then that could explain why her body would have been decomposed enough for the police to say that the UID had been deceased for 3-6 weeks. The trunk of a car in even slightly warm weather can heat up quickly. Karen Wilson went missing on March 27th and the UID was found on April 14th of that same year. So that would make it 18 days or 2 1/2 weeks. Like I said I'm not trying to argue or anything so if my post comes off as disrespectful I apologize but I don't think that Karen Wilson should be ruled out as a possibility just based off of the distance.

Danaya
11-30-2009, 02:35 PM
No worries, it's fine to have differing opinions! :) I could be wrong just my thoughts. :)

OC Lady
11-30-2009, 10:27 PM
I think Karen Wilson is definitely worth a closer look...the theory that she was abducted close to an Interstate and the UID being found close to an Interstate could be significant...and there is not *that* much time between Karen's disappearance and finding of the UID...if there was a trucker involved, perhaps she was kept alive for awhile?

I don't see anything to rule Karen out....

CarlK90245
12-03-2009, 08:55 PM
The time frame and geography are a bit off, but this woman has an overbite, and is within an inch of the upper height range. She is a pretty good match on the looks.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/f/fullam_janice.html

6515 6516 6517

A long shot, but it is not inconcievable that if she disappeared voluntarily to avoid the law, she could remain alive for 3+ years before being ultimately done-in by her drug associates.

Debbie Miller
12-23-2009, 09:37 AM
Possible match to Greene Co UID - anyone?

Sharon Zelinski McCully
Missing since December 11, 1984 from Austin, Travis County, Texas.





Date Of Birth: July 1, 1959
Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6"; 130 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes. She wears contact lenses.
Tattoos: Tattoo of a yellow and red rose on her abdomen.
Dentals: Available
Clothing: Dark blue slacks with white pin stripes, an unknown color of blouse, and white tennis shoes with red stripes.
AKA: Sarah
McCully was last seen at Howard Lane and Interstate 35. She was on a Christmas shopping trip, and had just left her husband after a lunch date. Her Volkswagen was seen on Bee Cave Road that day, and in the area where Barton Creek Square is now located. It was found at an apartment complex on Research Boulevard. She was a nurse with hopes of going to medical school.



A resident told police she saw a woman fitting McCully's description getting out of the car with a man, but the tip didn't develop. Fingerprints were found on her car but there hasn't been enough physical evidence to link anyone ot the crime.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1114dftx.html

The age isn't within the range given for the uid, I have had ME's tell me that the bones tell them how old the victim was. As we all know from experience though, there have been cases where the age is off.

Debbie Miller
12-23-2009, 09:42 AM
I am wondering if this girl was in a foster home, she could be a human trafficking victim.

I read where this girl was beaten badly, I suppose that is the cause of death.

A couple years ago I called in a possible match with Raylene Hensley as it seems her father beat on her, but it had already been looked into and it was not a match.

Debbie Miller
12-23-2009, 09:55 AM
Here is the link from the Namus site.

https://identifyus.org/cases/1576

Richard
04-07-2010, 10:51 PM
This case is now 25 years old. This girl was probably murdered in March 1985 and her body was found on 14 April of that year.

LINK:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

q64ceo
03-23-2011, 07:18 AM
Bump

From the first page, has anyone submitted Mary Jo Burnette as a possible match?

chaddylex
03-23-2011, 09:18 AM
Sides by side

Did anyone ever turn this one in? I think they look simiar even though the reconstruction face is a little longer..

Here is the link to the girl in the picture http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vail_annette.html

She is not on the rule out list in NamUS

https://identifyus.org/cases/1576

q64ceo
03-23-2011, 11:48 AM
Did anyone ever turn this one in? I think they look simiar even though the reconstruction face is a little longer..

Here is the link to the girl in the picture http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/v/vail_annette.html

She is not on the rule out list in NamUS

https://identifyus.org/cases/1576

No overbite. Doe has a major overbite.

CarlK90245
06-11-2011, 11:25 PM
I was looking at this case today, and ran a screen.

I found two MP's who aren't listed on the rule-outs list, and haven't been mentioned on this thread who seem to me to be worth a look.

Michelle Leone Duncan
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/duncan_michelle.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/duncan_michelle6.jpghttp://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/duncan_michelle5.jpg____http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN1.jpg

According to NamUs, she doesn't have a DNA profile. So this would not be a CODIS rule-out-by-default.

Her height is an inch above the upper limit of the UID's height estimate. But aside from that, her vital stats are in line.

She appears to have an overbite, similar to that of the uid. She even has similarly pointy canines.

She also has a similarly pointy chin (compared to the UID's side-view). However, her nose doesn't appear to be as long.

The timeline is right there. The distance is pretty far. But she was apparently kidnapped by some unnamed guy who she was afraid of. Could he have taken her cross-country?

April Grisanti
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grisanti_april.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/g/grisanti_april.jpg_____http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN1.jpg

According to NamUs, April also doesn't have a DNA profile.

Her facial shape is spot on to the drawn facial reconstruction. The timeline is spot-on as well. Her height, age, and hair color are also consistent.

It is unclear whether she has an overbite. It doesn't appear so, but the photo is too fuzzy to be sure.

The distance is about 700 miles, but the route from Norwalk CT to Greene County TN is a straight-shot down I-81.

She was also the apparent victim of a physical assault prior to her disappearance, consistent with the UID showing evidence of having been beaten.

nola
06-12-2011, 12:04 AM
I was looking at this case today, and ran a screen.

I found two MP's who aren't listed on the rule-outs list, and haven't been mentioned on this thread who seem to me to be worth a look.

Michelle Leone Duncan
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/duncan_michelle.html

http://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/duncan_michelle6.jpghttp://www.charleyproject.org/images/d/duncan_michelle5.jpg____http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN1.jpg

According to NamUs, she doesn't have a DNA profile. So this would not be a CODIS rule-out-by-default.

Her height is an inch above the upper limit of the UID's height estimate. But aside from that, her vital stats are in line.

She appears to have an overbite, similar to that of the uid. She even has similarly pointy canines.

She also has a similarly pointy chin (compared to the UID's side-view). However, her nose doesn't appear to be as long.

The timeline is right there. The distance is pretty far. But she was apparently kidnapped by some unnamed guy who she was afraid of. Could he have taken her cross-country?

April Grisanti
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/grisanti_april.html
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/g/grisanti_april.jpg_____http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN1.jpg

According to NamUs, April also doesn't have a DNA profile.

Her facial shape is spot on to the drawn facial reconstruction. The timeline is spot-on as well. Her height, age, and hair color are also consistent.

It is unclear whether she has an overbite. It doesn't appear so, but the photo is too fuzzy to be sure.

The distance is about 700 miles, but the route from Norwalk CT to Greene County TN is a straight-shot down I-81.

She was also the apparent victim of a physical assault prior to her disappearance, consistent with the UID showing evidence of having been beaten.

Carl-
I like your possibles on this. Michelle Duncan (if I remember correctly) has dentals on file that could be compared to this Jane Doe.
April (although again there is some distance) seems like an even more likely possibility (to me) since her boyfriend perhaps had a pattern of disposing of women in wooded areas. Maybe he thought that by removing April from the geographical area (NE) that he might make it more difficult to locate her body and connect him to this crime - as compared to his estranged wife back in '81.

CarlK90245
09-25-2011, 03:11 AM
Here's a new Charley case who seems like a decent possible for the Greene County Jane Doe.

Shari Lynn Ball
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/ball_shari.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN1.jpg
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/ball_shari.html

GCJD is depicted in the recon with dark hair. However, the DoeNet description indicates "Light brown or dark blonde hair with reddish tints". This is consistent with SLB.

* Her age (21 at the estimated time of GCJD's death) is close enough.
* Her listed height is an inch below the low end of the range, but not too far off.
* She appears to have a slight overbite, just as is descibed of GCJD.
* She resembles the recon.
* The timeline is a little long, but the circumstances don't suggest a quick demise at the time of her disappearance.

chaddylex
09-26-2011, 01:48 PM
Here's a new Charley case who seems like a decent possible for the Greene County Jane Doe.

Shari Lynn Ball
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/ball_shari.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN1.jpg
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/ball_shari.html

GCJD is depicted in the recon with dark hair. However, the DoeNet description indicates "Light brown or dark blonde hair with reddish tints". This is consistent with SLB.

* Her age (21 at the estimated time of GCJD's death) is close enough.
* Her listed height is an inch below the low end of the range, but not too far off.
* She appears to have a slight overbite, just as is descibed of GCJD.
* She resembles the recon.
* The timeline is a little long, but the circumstances don't suggest a quick demise at the time of her disappearance.

I see a resemblence....

Cubby
09-26-2011, 02:21 PM
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/ball_shari.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN3.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN5.jpg


http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

Not the clearest picture of Shari. Shari's nose appears to turn upward a little in this photo, but CarlK indicated in another thread a forensic artist would not be able to determine how the tip of a nose points.

While the timeline appears a little off also, the ears match up very well to me in these photos. TOD for the UID is estimated at 3-6 weeks, so I think the forensic artist would likely still get a good idea for the ears on the recon. CarlK' can you chime in on how accurate the ears might be with a short TOD?

This is definately worth looking into imo.

CarlK90245
09-26-2011, 02:35 PM
[IMG]CarlK' can you chime in on how accurate the ears might be with a short TOD?

It's impossible to know just based on timeframe how much decomp to expect. If there is significant animal and insect activity, the body could be reduced to bones within days.

The insects and climate alone would probably leave nose and ear cartilage behind over a period of a couple of weeks, but larger animals are the wild-card.

q64ceo
11-12-2011, 03:32 PM
Bringing this back up

/The artists drawing creeps the bejesus out of me. I want to see this solved.

chaddylex
11-14-2011, 02:49 PM
Here is the list of ruleouts:

Billie-Jo Fisher 1970
Janice Fullam 1964 New York
Joan Leigh Hall
Barbra J Hunt


Carl,

Did you ever turn in Shari Lynn Ball (I know you turned her in to compare her to the Davie FL Jane Doe)

CarlK90245
11-14-2011, 03:05 PM
Carl,

Did you ever turn in Shari Lynn Ball (I know you turned her in to compare her to the Davie FL Jane Doe)

No, I didn't.

chaddylex
11-14-2011, 03:36 PM
No, I didn't.

I think you should :)

CarlK90245
11-14-2011, 04:26 PM
I think you should :)

Ok - I called Lee Jantz, and gave her the names of Shari Lynne Ball and Michelle Leone Duncan.

I didn't submit April Grisanti, as I didn't want to overload her with names. My thinking is that if you give them more than 1 or 2 names, they are less likely to act promptly. I also didn't see any hint of overbite in her photo, so I thought her to be the least likely of the three.

chaddylex
11-15-2011, 09:06 AM
Hopefully they will check into it...

Richard
03-20-2012, 02:55 PM
It has now been 27 years since this unidentified girl was brutally murdered.

She could have come from Tennessee, Virginia, or North Carolina, as they are all close to the area where she was found.

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Unidentified White Female Found 14 April 1985 in rural Greene County, TN

Unidentified White Female
Found on April 14, 1985 in rural Greene County, Tennessee.
Cause of death is trauma to the head.
Estimated time of death is 3 to 6 weeks.
Decomposed Remains

Vital Statistics

Estimated age: 15 - 20 years old.
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'5"-5'6" (165-168 cm); 130 - 140 lbs. (59-64 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: Light brown or dark blonde hair with reddish tints, shoulder length. Silvery pink nail polish.
Clothing: No clothing or jewelry was found with the victim.
Fingerprints: Available
Dentals: Available, She had a slight overbite.
DNA: Available - University North Texas
Other: She was approximately 6 weeks pregnant.

Case History

The victim was located beside southbound Jeraldstown exit to I-81 in rural Greene County in April 1985, by a 15 year old fishing near exit 44. The body was found approximately 58 feet off the southbound Exit 44 entrance ramp. She was badly beaten. There was no physical evidence at the scene.

At the time, there were several women found dead along the nation's busy highways. The crimes were dubbed the redheaded murders. They were thought to be the work of a truck driver. It is not confirmed if this girl was one of them.

Investigators

If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:

University of TN Forensic Anthropology Center
Lee Jantz
865-974-4408
Email: ljantz@utk.edu


Tennessee Bureau of Investigation
800-824-3463

Agency Case Number:ME UT85-8F

NCMEC Number: NCMCu400081

NCIC Number: U-151201885

Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case

Source Information

Texas Missing Persons Clearinghouse
National Center for Missing & Exploited Children
Joanna J. Hughes | Forensic Artist
NamUs
WBIR
Greeneville Sun 5/16/08
The Doe Network: Case File 264UFTN

LINK:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

EXIA15145
08-09-2012, 10:49 PM
Since I haven't seen a reconstruction that looks exactly like a victim when it is them, I am giving my opinion that there could be a match here.
But the reconstruction is creepy looking. She couldn't have looked that bad alive.

Here's a new Charley case who seems like a decent possible for the Greene County Jane Doe.

Shari Lynn Ball
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/ball_shari2.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN1.jpg
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/ball_shari.html

GCJD is depicted in the recon with dark hair. However, the DoeNet description indicates "Light brown or dark blonde hair with reddish tints". This is consistent with SLB.

* Her age (21 at the estimated time of GCJD's death) is close enough.
* Her listed height is an inch below the low end of the range, but not too far off.
* She appears to have a slight overbite, just as is descibed of GCJD.
* She resembles the recon.
* The timeline is a little long, but the circumstances don't suggest a quick demise at the time of her disappearance.

EXIA15145
08-09-2012, 10:50 PM
This one looks like a closer match IMO.


http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/ball_shari2.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN3.jpghttp://www.doenetwork.org/cases/images/264UFTN5.jpg


http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/264uftn.html

Not the clearest picture of Shari. Shari's nose appears to turn upward a little in this photo, but CarlK indicated in another thread a forensic artist would not be able to determine how the tip of a nose points.

While the timeline appears a little off also, the ears match up very well to me in these photos. TOD for the UID is estimated at 3-6 weeks, so I think the forensic artist would likely still get a good idea for the ears on the recon. CarlK' can you chime in on how accurate the ears might be with a short TOD?

This is definately worth looking into imo.

Richard
08-29-2012, 09:53 AM
The missing girl discussed in the previous posts is Sheri Lynne Ball, age 20, when she went missing in 1983. According to the case details, she was last heard from 28 or 29 June 1983, when she reportedly called her boyfriend from a truckstop in Ashland, VA. This is just a few miles north of Richmond, VA.

Sheri is said to have been 5 feet, 4 inches tall, weighing 100 pounds.

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I wonder if the following Jane Doe case might be related to either the Greene County Jane Doe, or to Sheri Lynne Ball' s disappearance. Campbell County, Tennessee is only about 40 miles north west of Greene County.


TN - Campbell County - White Female 482UFTN, 9-15, April 1985

LINKS:

http://doenetwork.org/cases/482uftn.html

TN TN - Campbell County - White Female 482UFTN, 9-15, April 1985 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

Richard
08-29-2012, 10:44 AM
I have often wondered if the Greene County Jane Doe case might be related to the murder of Travis Shane King, age 8, of Bristol, Virginia. He was abducted, strangled, and his body dumped near a lake in Sullivan County, Tennessee, which was just over the state line from Bristol, VA.

The main suspect in Travis Shane King's murder is convicted child molester/killer Fred Howard Coffey, Jr. Coffey's home town was Bristol, VA. His known and suspected victims were both male and female and they ranged in age from 3 years to 15 years old. He seems to have had a particular attraction to petite white girls in their early teens. His known method of killing was strangulation or bludgening. And in instances where the bodies were found, he stripped them of clothing and dumped them in open, rural areas, often near water.

This Greene County Jane Doe's age was estimated at between 15 and 17. She was killed by blunt trauma to the head, was stripped of all clothing and jewlry and dumped in the open, near water probably in March 1985. There is a strong similarity between this murder and several other murders in which Coffey is a potential suspect.

Travis Shane King was murdered in August 1986, and his body was dumped only two counties (aproximately 10 to 30 miles) away from where the Green County Jane Doe was found.

Here is an excerpt and a link to an article on the Travis Shane King case:

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BURDENS OF PROOF: File still open on Travis Shane King

By: CLAIRE GALOFARO
BRISTOL HERALD COURIER
July 11, 2011

BRISTOL, Va. -- For 25 years, Rozesetta Miller has laid down each night, put her hand over her mouth and held her breath – wondering how long it might take her to die that way. She hoped a stroke five years ago might make her forget to wonder what her 8-year-old grandson’s last words might have been; if he suffered; whether he cried for his mamaw.

“That little face – I just can’t forget it,” Miller said. “It’s been hell, pure hell. I remember the day, the time. It was a quarter after 10 when they found him.”

On Aug. 21, 1986, Travis Shane King followed a man with a metal detector from Eastridge Apartments, where he lived with his mother and Miller, as he headed into the woods. The boy’s body was found the next night – strangled and dumped near a rural Sullivan County lake....

... There is only one suspect: a Bristol-born convicted child killer and serial molester.

“He bounced around his whole life. And wherever he was, kids ended up dead,” said Bristol Virginia Police Sgt. Steve Crawford, part of the third generation of detectives to inherit the case.

Fred Howard Coffey, 66, is in prison six hours away for murdering a 10-year-old North Carolina girl seven years before Shane was killed. Coffey is suspected of killing others – maybe one little girl, maybe more – and reportedly confessed to molesting 100 kids...

Much more at link:


http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/...ng-ar-1164205/ (http://www2.tricities.com/news/2011/jul/11/burdens-proof-file-still-open-travis-shane-king-ar-1164205/)

Richard
08-31-2012, 09:14 AM
Bumping up due to recent comments on another Tennessee Jane Doe case two counties away.

Richard
11-05-2012, 06:22 PM
Just a few days ago, a Jane Doe located in 1985 off Highway 40 in western North Carolina, (about 8 miles from the NC and Tennessee line) was identified as Priscilla Blevins. Priscilla went missing from Charlotte, NC in July 1975.

The Greene County Jane Doe was found beside southbound Jeraldstown exit to I-81 in rural Greene County in April 1985, by a 15 year old fishing near exit 44. The body was found approximately 58 feet off the southbound Exit 44 entrance ramp. She was badly beaten. There was no physical evidence at the scene.

Highway 40 connects to Highway I-81 just inside Tennessee. Greene County Jane Doe was found between the junction of Highway 40/Highway 81 and Bristol TN/VA. Could there be a link between these two cases?

mikkismom
11-05-2012, 06:35 PM
FWIW, Charley Project Blog for Nov. 1 has a list of pregnant/maybe pregnant MP.

http://charleyross.wordpress.com/