View Full Version : GUILTY IL - Mom, boyfriend charged with drowning 3 kids in Clinton Lake

12-10-2003, 07:40 PM
I'm curious to what the motive was. How could they do that??? Our world is so damn evil.

Article here (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20031210/ap_on_re_us/submerged_car&e=5&ncid=)

12-11-2003, 11:42 AM
I think the give away here is that the adults were on the shore.
Come on! If my car rolls into the water with my kids in it I'm going in after them not waiting for anyone.
I don't care if the water is cold.

12-11-2003, 11:47 AM
same here, I'd die trying to save my child. Without him, I'd be dead inside anyways......

12-11-2003, 11:52 AM
There's no doubt about it, I'd have died trying, clinging to the car if necessary, to save my children. Susan the Shover Smith comes to mind. Ugh.

12-11-2003, 11:59 AM
Oh I so remember her face (Susan Smith) crying at that news conference begging for her children and the whole time that B*&^% knew where her children were. And I remember those babies faces like it was yesterday. So innocent, so cute and taken by some selfish B*&^% because she decided they were cramping her lifestyle. You're right Imon, UGH comes to mind.

12-11-2003, 12:05 PM
Yes, alpharee. It just breaks my heart to think of those innocent little guys thinking that mom would rescue them, when they became uncomfortable. This woman could try the patience of a saint. I weep for the little guys, yet. And all so she could get it on with some boyfriend who didn't want the kids. Whatever she goes through, surely isn't enough. God is her final one to answer to, and we on Earth are grateful, as His treatment of her will surely be different. Imagine those innocent babes, rolling into the water, and dying from drowning. I shudder. This case ellicits bad feelings from me that I hate to admit. That, and JonBenet Ramsey having to leave this world in the manner she did. All the kiddies at the hands of a person in a fiduciary position in their lives. Sob....

12-12-2003, 05:39 AM
A woman accused of drowning her three children in a lake cried and wiped her eyes Thursday as a judge read the murder charges against her and told her she could be eligible for the death penalty.

12-12-2003, 06:10 AM
A woman accused of drowning her three young children in a car submerged in a lake had asked her mother to take custody of two of them just months before their deaths, the mother said Thursday.

12-12-2003, 12:45 PM
this crime isn't too far from my hometown ... it makes me physically sick to think of those poor kids as their mother watched the car roll into the water and they were helpless, probably crying. How can people do this???

12-20-2003, 04:59 AM
A grand jury indicted two former Clinton residents Thursday afternoon in connection with the drowning of three children Sept. 2 in Clinton Lake.


12-31-2003, 05:12 AM
A Springfield attorney has been named to the defense team for Amanda Hamm, the Clinton mother charged in the drowning deaths of her three children

12-31-2003, 04:58 PM
This really is horrible. Please don't take this the wrong way- it is not the Grandmother's job to take the children but I do remember reading one of the earliest articles that came out where the Grandmother said she would have taken all three kids but this most recent article said her daughter asked her and she said she could only take one. Very hard to discern what to do in a case like this. On the one hand, the Grandmother has raised her family and has a right to live her life now. And of course who could imagine that this could transpire. On the other, who knows what could have been avoided if the father or grandmother had dug a little deeper to identify what the roots of the request were all about. Either way, a tragedy for all involved. So sad.

01-05-2004, 10:16 PM
Oh, God. What a terrible, terrible story. I cannot fathom a greater tragedy.

Imon, I must give you credit--Susan "the shover" Smith is a great alliteration--we agree upon that point.

Who could argue against the death penalty in such cases?

01-08-2004, 05:36 AM
A mother and her former boyfriend accused in the deaths of her three children -- who drowned when their car plunged into a lake -- pleaded innocent to first-degree murder charges Wednesday.

01-27-2004, 05:46 AM
A Clinton woman and her former boyfriend, both accused of drowning her three children in Clinton Lake last September, will not face a death sentence if they are convicted, a special prosecutor said Monday.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/1AC7227449FFDD0686256E270076A84A?OpenDocument&Headline=Special+prosecutor+says+no+death+penalty+ in+drownings+case

01-27-2004, 03:53 PM
ugh.. i think im gonna be sick.. :(

04-23-2005, 05:00 PM
Hearing being held as to whether a video can be showed to the jury which depicts how the car may have sunk. Defense is objecting to the video.


05-24-2005, 04:30 PM
LaGrone trial lawyers waiting on reports

Expert opinions on post-traumatic stress and the technical dynamics of how a vehicle sinks in water are among the reports attorneys need before a trial date can be scheduled in the trial of a man accused of drowning three children.
Maurice LaGrone Jr. and his defense counsel agreed it was not possible to set a date for his trial on nine counts of first-degree murder. LaGrone and former girlfriend Amanda Hamm each face a possible death sentence in the September 2003 drowning deaths of Hamm's children, Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3 and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months.


06-05-2005, 02:23 PM
The children who drowned in 2003 in Clinton Lake can't testify in the murder trials of their mother and her former boyfriend, but jurors will hear about some of the things they said.
Christopher Hamm, 6, and Austin Brown, 3, made statements about defendant Maurice LaGrone Jr. to an early childhood education teacher in Clinton and to two friends of their mother, Amanda Hamm.


06-22-2005, 08:16 PM
Prosecutors in the murder case of Maurice LaGrone Jr. said Tuesday they intend to call his former girlfriend as a witness when he goes to trial over the deaths of her three children.

Peters ruled Tuesday that this and future issues of evidence in the LaGrone case will not be dealt with until after the jury is chosen. The move was seen as a victory for news organizations objecting to previous hearings being held behind closed doors.

Peters also said he wants the LaGrone trial to start on Oct. 3 so it can wrap up before the holiday season. No trial date has been set for Hamm, but LaGrone will be tried first.

Prosecutors said they want to use Hamm's testimony to prove a conspiracy existed between the pair.


06-29-2005, 06:37 PM
Many facts in the investigation into the deaths of three children in Clinton Lake are inaccurate and should not be disclosed to potential jurors in the murder trial of Maurice LaGrone Jr., a defense attorney says in a court document.
LaGrone and Amanda Hamm, both 29, are awaiting trial on nine counts of first-degree murder in connection with the drowning deaths of Hamm's three children in September 2003.

LaGrone and Hamm escaped from Hamm's car but Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3, and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months, remained in the back seat as the car sank into the lake.

LaGrone attorney Jeff Justice defended his request to keep certain facts of the murder case behind closed doors in a response filed with the Illinois Supreme Court. The state's high court has been asked to reverse a ruling by DeWitt County Circuit Judge Stephen Peters to close a hearing to bar a jury from hearing certain statements made by Christopher and Austin.

Peters strongly urged the prosecution and defense to work toward an early October trial date. The case will be tried in Champaign County, where it was moved because of extensive pre-trial media coverage.


09-13-2005, 09:46 PM
A man accused of drowning his girlfriend's three children in Clinton lake cannot get a fair trial in McLean County and should be tried elsewhere, his attorney argues.
Maurice LaGrone Jr., 30, and his former girlfriend, Amanda Hamm, 29, each are charged with nine counts of first degree murder in the September 2003 deaths of Hamm's three children. His trial is scheduled to start next month but may be delayed.

Defense attorney Jeff Justice told Judge Stephen Peters on Monday a recent electronic survey of 8,126 households in McLean County showed the potential jury pool may be biased.


09-26-2005, 07:00 PM
The trial of a man charged in the drownings of his former girlfriend's three children is scheduled to begin Feb. 6 in Bloomington.

Lawyers for Maurice LaGrone Jr. agreed with prosecutors today on a final set of deadlines designed to bring the case to trial more than two years after the children's deaths.

LaGrone is charged with nine counts of first-degree murder in the drownings of 6-year-old Christopher Hamm, 3-year-old Austin Brown and 23-month-old Kyleigh Hamm. The children were in the back seat of a car that sank into Clinton Lake on Sept. 2, 2003.

12-12-2005, 01:37 AM
Updated: Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:30 AM CST
LaGrone murder trial on track for Feb. 21 start

CLINTON - Maurice LaGrone Jr. is ready to begin his trial on nine counts of murder in February, according to his attorneys.

LaGrone defense lawyer Jeff Justice recalled comments Friday from LaGrone about the upcoming trial in which LaGrone and former girlfriend Amanda Hamm will face a jury on charges that they deliberately drowned Hamm's three children in Clinton Lake in September 2003.

Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3, and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months, were in the back seat of their mother's car when it went into the lake front first. LaGrone was behind the wheel when the incident occurred.

More: http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2005/12/12/news/local_news/1011798.txt

04-01-2006, 01:22 PM
Just an update:

Witnesses discuss wetness of LaGrone, Hamm's clothes
Testimony adds to dispute about whether pair were in sinking car


Published Saturday, April 01, 2006

BLOOMINGTON - Defense witnesses testified Friday that a man and a woman charged with drowning her three young children in Clinton Lake were wet when seen at a hospital the night their car sank into the lake 21/2 years ago.

Defense attorneys say the witnesses dispute earlier prosecution testimony that Maurice LaGrone Jr. and then-girlfriend Amanda Hamm appeared dry, despite telling investigators that they escaped as the car slipped into the lake but couldn't save the children.

The testimony in LaGrone's murder trial touched off an out-of-court debate among attorneys over what happened to the clothes witnesses say the couple changed out of after the Sept. 2, 2003, incident.

More at link: http://www.sj-r.com/Sections/News/Stories/82539.asp

09-09-2008, 09:17 AM

The woman who was convicted in 2006 of child endangerment in the deaths of her three children will be free Tuesday.
Amanda Hamm, 32, is set to be released from Dwight Correctional Center in Tuesday morning.

Being released already, what a shame, you kill your kids and get out in a couple years! WTH!!:mad:

09-10-2008, 10:11 PM

"The latter charge said she allowed her children to be caught in a life-threatening situation in the back seat of her car while it was parked on a steep boat ramp on the lake."

How nice, another mother of the year. Excuse me while I visit the lady's room. :sick:


05-08-2010, 02:08 PM
Published September 11, 2008 by:
Susan Sonnen

On September 9, Amanda Hamm, convicted of child endangerment in 2006, has been released from the Dwight Correctional Center in Illinois.


Initially, only Lagrone was charged with murder (nine counts of murder for the three children), but soon Hamm was similarly charged. The two were tried separately. Lagrone was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison with no chance for parole. Hamm was sentenced to ten years, half of the possible maximum term, in prison for child endangerment. The three years that she had already spent behind bars were counted as time served. More time was taken off her sentence due to good behavior. In all, Amanda Hamm served less than five years for her involvement in the deaths of her three young children.

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05-08-2010, 02:40 PM
It makes me sick that she murdered those beautiful babies and basically got a slap on the wrist! She was their mother for petes sake! If anyone should have gotten the death penalty or LWOP it should have been her because it was her duty to protect those kids.

05-08-2010, 04:50 PM
It really burns me up that they keep letting the mother's of all of these abused children walk away. Like they didn't know what the boyfriend was doing or they had no control, or, or, or. The courts need to stop the madness and hold these women accountable for allowing their children to be abused and murdered. Whether they participate in it or not isn't the point. They were in a position to stop it and they utterly failed to do so every single time.

05-09-2010, 01:14 AM
child endangerment? ummmmmm there dead. arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

just cry in front of the jury/judge (crocidile tears) and blame the boyfriend/husband and i guess you can kill anyone and get away with it :(

05-09-2010, 02:26 AM
Those poor babies are probably spinning in their graves.

05-30-2010, 06:43 AM
This case is just itching my crawl. I do not understand why Amanda is not in jail. I do not understand. It is wrong on so many levels. Even just from the angle of pure numbers, she was sentenced to 10 years. She did exactly (including time served before conviction) 4 years 9 months 1 day. I do not understand. I will not understand. This is wrong. Sorry, rant over.

11-07-2015, 08:39 PM

While LaGrove is still serving life for murder, Hamm was released after serving five years for child neglect, before going on to marry Leo Ware, changing her surname and having three more children.

However, those children, now aged five, three and one, were taken away after a doctor recognized her as she was giving birth to her youngest child, and Ware is now fighting to get them back.