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alpharee
12-10-2003, 06:40 PM
I'm curious to what the motive was. How could they do that??? Our world is so damn evil.

Article here (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20031210/ap_on_re_us/submerged_car&e=5&ncid=)

Amraann
12-11-2003, 10:42 AM
I think the give away here is that the adults were on the shore.
Come on! If my car rolls into the water with my kids in it I'm going in after them not waiting for anyone.
I don't care if the water is cold.

alpharee
12-11-2003, 10:47 AM
same here, I'd die trying to save my child. Without him, I'd be dead inside anyways......

Imon128
12-11-2003, 10:52 AM
There's no doubt about it, I'd have died trying, clinging to the car if necessary, to save my children. Susan the Shover Smith comes to mind. Ugh.

alpharee
12-11-2003, 10:59 AM
Oh I so remember her face (Susan Smith) crying at that news conference begging for her children and the whole time that B*&^% knew where her children were. And I remember those babies faces like it was yesterday. So innocent, so cute and taken by some selfish B*&^% because she decided they were cramping her lifestyle. You're right Imon, UGH comes to mind.

Imon128
12-11-2003, 11:05 AM
Yes, alpharee. It just breaks my heart to think of those innocent little guys thinking that mom would rescue them, when they became uncomfortable. This woman could try the patience of a saint. I weep for the little guys, yet. And all so she could get it on with some boyfriend who didn't want the kids. Whatever she goes through, surely isn't enough. God is her final one to answer to, and we on Earth are grateful, as His treatment of her will surely be different. Imagine those innocent babes, rolling into the water, and dying from drowning. I shudder. This case ellicits bad feelings from me that I hate to admit. That, and JonBenet Ramsey having to leave this world in the manner she did. All the kiddies at the hands of a person in a fiduciary position in their lives. Sob....

Doyle
12-12-2003, 04:39 AM
A woman accused of drowning her three children in a lake cried and wiped her eyes Thursday as a judge read the murder charges against her and told her she could be eligible for the death penalty.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105486,00.html

Doyle
12-12-2003, 05:10 AM
A woman accused of drowning her three young children in a car submerged in a lake had asked her mother to take custody of two of them just months before their deaths, the mother said Thursday.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031211_2335.html

PrayersForMaura
12-12-2003, 11:45 AM
this crime isn't too far from my hometown ... it makes me physically sick to think of those poor kids as their mother watched the car roll into the water and they were helpless, probably crying. How can people do this???

Doyle
12-20-2003, 03:59 AM
A grand jury indicted two former Clinton residents Thursday afternoon in connection with the drowning of three children Sept. 2 in Clinton Lake.

http://www.news-gazette.com/story.cfm?Number=15110

Doyle
12-31-2003, 04:12 AM
A Springfield attorney has been named to the defense team for Amanda Hamm, the Clinton mother charged in the drowning deaths of her three children
http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/123003/new_20031230009.shtml

lcookster
12-31-2003, 03:58 PM
This really is horrible. Please don't take this the wrong way- it is not the Grandmother's job to take the children but I do remember reading one of the earliest articles that came out where the Grandmother said she would have taken all three kids but this most recent article said her daughter asked her and she said she could only take one. Very hard to discern what to do in a case like this. On the one hand, the Grandmother has raised her family and has a right to live her life now. And of course who could imagine that this could transpire. On the other, who knows what could have been avoided if the father or grandmother had dug a little deeper to identify what the roots of the request were all about. Either way, a tragedy for all involved. So sad.

Texana
01-05-2004, 09:16 PM
Oh, God. What a terrible, terrible story. I cannot fathom a greater tragedy.

Imon, I must give you credit--Susan "the shover" Smith is a great alliteration--we agree upon that point.

Who could argue against the death penalty in such cases?

Doyle
01-08-2004, 04:36 AM
A mother and her former boyfriend accused in the deaths of her three children -- who drowned when their car plunged into a lake -- pleaded innocent to first-degree murder charges Wednesday.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/07/submerged.car.ap/

Doyle
01-27-2004, 04:46 AM
A Clinton woman and her former boyfriend, both accused of drowning her three children in Clinton Lake last September, will not face a death sentence if they are convicted, a special prosecutor said Monday.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/1AC7227449FFDD0686256E270076A84A?OpenDocument&Headline=Special+prosecutor+says+no+death+penalty+ in+drownings+case

rondata
01-27-2004, 02:53 PM
ugh.. i think im gonna be sick.. :(

mysteriew
04-23-2005, 05:00 PM
Hearing being held as to whether a video can be showed to the jury which depicts how the car may have sunk. Defense is objecting to the video.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/042205/new_20050422030.shtml

sharon25
05-24-2005, 04:30 PM
LaGrone trial lawyers waiting on reports

Expert opinions on post-traumatic stress and the technical dynamics of how a vehicle sinks in water are among the reports attorneys need before a trial date can be scheduled in the trial of a man accused of drowning three children.
Maurice LaGrone Jr. and his defense counsel agreed it was not possible to set a date for his trial on nine counts of first-degree murder. LaGrone and former girlfriend Amanda Hamm each face a possible death sentence in the September 2003 drowning deaths of Hamm's children, Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3 and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/052405/new_20050524053.shtml

mysteriew
06-05-2005, 02:23 PM
The children who drowned in 2003 in Clinton Lake can't testify in the murder trials of their mother and her former boyfriend, but jurors will hear about some of the things they said.
Christopher Hamm, 6, and Austin Brown, 3, made statements about defendant Maurice LaGrone Jr. to an early childhood education teacher in Clinton and to two friends of their mother, Amanda Hamm.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/060305/new_20050603007.shtml

mysteriew
06-22-2005, 08:16 PM
Prosecutors in the murder case of Maurice LaGrone Jr. said Tuesday they intend to call his former girlfriend as a witness when he goes to trial over the deaths of her three children.

Peters ruled Tuesday that this and future issues of evidence in the LaGrone case will not be dealt with until after the jury is chosen. The move was seen as a victory for news organizations objecting to previous hearings being held behind closed doors.

Peters also said he wants the LaGrone trial to start on Oct. 3 so it can wrap up before the holiday season. No trial date has been set for Hamm, but LaGrone will be tried first.

Prosecutors said they want to use Hamm's testimony to prove a conspiracy existed between the pair.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/062205/new_20050622027.shtml

Belinda
05-08-2010, 02:08 PM
Published September 11, 2008 by:
Susan Sonnen

On September 9, Amanda Hamm, convicted of child endangerment in 2006, has been released from the Dwight Correctional Center in Illinois.

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Initially, only Lagrone was charged with murder (nine counts of murder for the three children), but soon Hamm was similarly charged. The two were tried separately. Lagrone was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison with no chance for parole. Hamm was sentenced to ten years, half of the possible maximum term, in prison for child endangerment. The three years that she had already spent behind bars were counted as time served. More time was taken off her sentence due to good behavior. In all, Amanda Hamm served less than five years for her involvement in the deaths of her three young children.

More at link:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1027460/amanda_hamm_released_from_prison.html?cat=49

teonspaleprincess
05-08-2010, 02:40 PM
It makes me sick that she murdered those beautiful babies and basically got a slap on the wrist! She was their mother for petes sake! If anyone should have gotten the death penalty or LWOP it should have been her because it was her duty to protect those kids.

Belinda
05-08-2010, 04:50 PM
It really burns me up that they keep letting the mother's of all of these abused children walk away. Like they didn't know what the boyfriend was doing or they had no control, or, or, or. The courts need to stop the madness and hold these women accountable for allowing their children to be abused and murdered. Whether they participate in it or not isn't the point. They were in a position to stop it and they utterly failed to do so every single time.

kbl8201
05-09-2010, 01:14 AM
child endangerment? ummmmmm there dead. arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

just cry in front of the jury/judge (crocidile tears) and blame the boyfriend/husband and i guess you can kill anyone and get away with it :(

DairyGirl
05-09-2010, 02:26 AM
Those poor babies are probably spinning in their graves.

Belinda
05-30-2010, 06:43 AM
This case is just itching my crawl. I do not understand why Amanda is not in jail. I do not understand. It is wrong on so many levels. Even just from the angle of pure numbers, she was sentenced to 10 years. She did exactly (including time served before conviction) 4 years 9 months 1 day. I do not understand. I will not understand. This is wrong. Sorry, rant over.