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alpharee
12-10-2003, 07:40 PM
I'm curious to what the motive was. How could they do that??? Our world is so damn evil.

Article here (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20031210/ap_on_re_us/submerged_car&e=5&ncid=)

Amraann
12-11-2003, 11:42 AM
I think the give away here is that the adults were on the shore.
Come on! If my car rolls into the water with my kids in it I'm going in after them not waiting for anyone.
I don't care if the water is cold.

alpharee
12-11-2003, 11:47 AM
same here, I'd die trying to save my child. Without him, I'd be dead inside anyways......

Imon128
12-11-2003, 11:52 AM
There's no doubt about it, I'd have died trying, clinging to the car if necessary, to save my children. Susan the Shover Smith comes to mind. Ugh.

alpharee
12-11-2003, 11:59 AM
Oh I so remember her face (Susan Smith) crying at that news conference begging for her children and the whole time that B*&^% knew where her children were. And I remember those babies faces like it was yesterday. So innocent, so cute and taken by some selfish B*&^% because she decided they were cramping her lifestyle. You're right Imon, UGH comes to mind.

Imon128
12-11-2003, 12:05 PM
Yes, alpharee. It just breaks my heart to think of those innocent little guys thinking that mom would rescue them, when they became uncomfortable. This woman could try the patience of a saint. I weep for the little guys, yet. And all so she could get it on with some boyfriend who didn't want the kids. Whatever she goes through, surely isn't enough. God is her final one to answer to, and we on Earth are grateful, as His treatment of her will surely be different. Imagine those innocent babes, rolling into the water, and dying from drowning. I shudder. This case ellicits bad feelings from me that I hate to admit. That, and JonBenet Ramsey having to leave this world in the manner she did. All the kiddies at the hands of a person in a fiduciary position in their lives. Sob....

Doyle
12-12-2003, 05:39 AM
A woman accused of drowning her three children in a lake cried and wiped her eyes Thursday as a judge read the murder charges against her and told her she could be eligible for the death penalty.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,105486,00.html

Doyle
12-12-2003, 06:10 AM
A woman accused of drowning her three young children in a car submerged in a lake had asked her mother to take custody of two of them just months before their deaths, the mother said Thursday.
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20031211_2335.html

PrayersForMaura
12-12-2003, 12:45 PM
this crime isn't too far from my hometown ... it makes me physically sick to think of those poor kids as their mother watched the car roll into the water and they were helpless, probably crying. How can people do this???

Doyle
12-20-2003, 04:59 AM
A grand jury indicted two former Clinton residents Thursday afternoon in connection with the drowning of three children Sept. 2 in Clinton Lake.

http://www.news-gazette.com/story.cfm?Number=15110

Doyle
12-31-2003, 05:12 AM
A Springfield attorney has been named to the defense team for Amanda Hamm, the Clinton mother charged in the drowning deaths of her three children
http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/123003/new_20031230009.shtml

lcookster
12-31-2003, 04:58 PM
This really is horrible. Please don't take this the wrong way- it is not the Grandmother's job to take the children but I do remember reading one of the earliest articles that came out where the Grandmother said she would have taken all three kids but this most recent article said her daughter asked her and she said she could only take one. Very hard to discern what to do in a case like this. On the one hand, the Grandmother has raised her family and has a right to live her life now. And of course who could imagine that this could transpire. On the other, who knows what could have been avoided if the father or grandmother had dug a little deeper to identify what the roots of the request were all about. Either way, a tragedy for all involved. So sad.

Texana
01-05-2004, 10:16 PM
Oh, God. What a terrible, terrible story. I cannot fathom a greater tragedy.

Imon, I must give you credit--Susan "the shover" Smith is a great alliteration--we agree upon that point.

Who could argue against the death penalty in such cases?

Doyle
01-08-2004, 05:36 AM
A mother and her former boyfriend accused in the deaths of her three children -- who drowned when their car plunged into a lake -- pleaded innocent to first-degree murder charges Wednesday.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/LAW/01/07/submerged.car.ap/

Doyle
01-27-2004, 05:46 AM
A Clinton woman and her former boyfriend, both accused of drowning her three children in Clinton Lake last September, will not face a death sentence if they are convicted, a special prosecutor said Monday.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/1AC7227449FFDD0686256E270076A84A?OpenDocument&Headline=Special+prosecutor+says+no+death+penalty+ in+drownings+case

rondata
01-27-2004, 03:53 PM
ugh.. i think im gonna be sick.. :(

mysteriew
04-23-2005, 05:00 PM
Hearing being held as to whether a video can be showed to the jury which depicts how the car may have sunk. Defense is objecting to the video.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/042205/new_20050422030.shtml

sharon25
05-24-2005, 04:30 PM
LaGrone trial lawyers waiting on reports

Expert opinions on post-traumatic stress and the technical dynamics of how a vehicle sinks in water are among the reports attorneys need before a trial date can be scheduled in the trial of a man accused of drowning three children.
Maurice LaGrone Jr. and his defense counsel agreed it was not possible to set a date for his trial on nine counts of first-degree murder. LaGrone and former girlfriend Amanda Hamm each face a possible death sentence in the September 2003 drowning deaths of Hamm's children, Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3 and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/052405/new_20050524053.shtml

mysteriew
06-05-2005, 02:23 PM
The children who drowned in 2003 in Clinton Lake can't testify in the murder trials of their mother and her former boyfriend, but jurors will hear about some of the things they said.
Christopher Hamm, 6, and Austin Brown, 3, made statements about defendant Maurice LaGrone Jr. to an early childhood education teacher in Clinton and to two friends of their mother, Amanda Hamm.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/060305/new_20050603007.shtml

mysteriew
06-22-2005, 08:16 PM
Prosecutors in the murder case of Maurice LaGrone Jr. said Tuesday they intend to call his former girlfriend as a witness when he goes to trial over the deaths of her three children.

Peters ruled Tuesday that this and future issues of evidence in the LaGrone case will not be dealt with until after the jury is chosen. The move was seen as a victory for news organizations objecting to previous hearings being held behind closed doors.

Peters also said he wants the LaGrone trial to start on Oct. 3 so it can wrap up before the holiday season. No trial date has been set for Hamm, but LaGrone will be tried first.

Prosecutors said they want to use Hamm's testimony to prove a conspiracy existed between the pair.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/062205/new_20050622027.shtml

mysteriew
06-29-2005, 06:37 PM
Many facts in the investigation into the deaths of three children in Clinton Lake are inaccurate and should not be disclosed to potential jurors in the murder trial of Maurice LaGrone Jr., a defense attorney says in a court document.
LaGrone and Amanda Hamm, both 29, are awaiting trial on nine counts of first-degree murder in connection with the drowning deaths of Hamm's three children in September 2003.

LaGrone and Hamm escaped from Hamm's car but Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3, and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months, remained in the back seat as the car sank into the lake.

LaGrone attorney Jeff Justice defended his request to keep certain facts of the murder case behind closed doors in a response filed with the Illinois Supreme Court. The state's high court has been asked to reverse a ruling by DeWitt County Circuit Judge Stephen Peters to close a hearing to bar a jury from hearing certain statements made by Christopher and Austin.

Peters strongly urged the prosecution and defense to work toward an early October trial date. The case will be tried in Champaign County, where it was moved because of extensive pre-trial media coverage.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/062905/new_20050629005.shtml

mysteriew
09-13-2005, 09:46 PM
A man accused of drowning his girlfriend's three children in Clinton lake cannot get a fair trial in McLean County and should be tried elsewhere, his attorney argues.
Maurice LaGrone Jr., 30, and his former girlfriend, Amanda Hamm, 29, each are charged with nine counts of first degree murder in the September 2003 deaths of Hamm's three children. His trial is scheduled to start next month but may be delayed.

Defense attorney Jeff Justice told Judge Stephen Peters on Monday a recent electronic survey of 8,126 households in McLean County showed the potential jury pool may be biased.

http://www.pantagraph.com/stories/091305/new_20050913025.shtml

mysteriew
09-26-2005, 07:00 PM
The trial of a man charged in the drownings of his former girlfriend's three children is scheduled to begin Feb. 6 in Bloomington.

Lawyers for Maurice LaGrone Jr. agreed with prosecutors today on a final set of deadlines designed to bring the case to trial more than two years after the children's deaths.

LaGrone is charged with nine counts of first-degree murder in the drownings of 6-year-old Christopher Hamm, 3-year-old Austin Brown and 23-month-old Kyleigh Hamm. The children were in the back seat of a car that sank into Clinton Lake on Sept. 2, 2003.
http://www.pantagraph.com/news/update9261.html

PrayersForMaura
12-12-2005, 01:37 AM
Updated: Saturday, December 10, 2005 12:30 AM CST
LaGrone murder trial on track for Feb. 21 start

CLINTON - Maurice LaGrone Jr. is ready to begin his trial on nine counts of murder in February, according to his attorneys.

LaGrone defense lawyer Jeff Justice recalled comments Friday from LaGrone about the upcoming trial in which LaGrone and former girlfriend Amanda Hamm will face a jury on charges that they deliberately drowned Hamm's three children in Clinton Lake in September 2003.

Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3, and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months, were in the back seat of their mother's car when it went into the lake front first. LaGrone was behind the wheel when the incident occurred.

More: http://www.herald-review.com/articles/2005/12/12/news/local_news/1011798.txt

GreenEyedGirl
04-01-2006, 01:22 PM
Just an update:





Witnesses discuss wetness of LaGrone, Hamm's clothes
Testimony adds to dispute about whether pair were in sinking car


By JAN DENNIS
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS












Published Saturday, April 01, 2006

BLOOMINGTON - Defense witnesses testified Friday that a man and a woman charged with drowning her three young children in Clinton Lake were wet when seen at a hospital the night their car sank into the lake 21/2 years ago.

Defense attorneys say the witnesses dispute earlier prosecution testimony that Maurice LaGrone Jr. and then-girlfriend Amanda Hamm appeared dry, despite telling investigators that they escaped as the car slipped into the lake but couldn't save the children.

The testimony in LaGrone's murder trial touched off an out-of-court debate among attorneys over what happened to the clothes witnesses say the couple changed out of after the Sept. 2, 2003, incident.

More at link: http://www.sj-r.com/Sections/News/Stories/82539.asp

santos1014
12-07-2006, 10:45 AM
Prosecutor: Kids died for mom's love life

POSTED: 8:54 a.m. EST, December 7, 2006


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DECATUR, Illinois (AP) -- A mother helped plot the drowning deaths of her three children to preserve her relationship with the man who killed them, prosecutors said in closing arguments Wednesday in the woman's murder trial.

Prosecutor Roger Simpson said Amanda Hamm, 30, has low self-esteem and needed a man to "validate her existence."

Hamm faces life in prison if convicted of first-degree murder in the deaths of her children, Christopher Hamm, 6, Austin Brown, 3, and Kyleigh Hamm, 23 months. The children died after Hamm's car sank at a Clinton Lake boat ramp on September 2, 2003.

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2sisters
12-07-2006, 10:51 AM
i hope the lesser charge is 20 years per child. Why don't these women just gvie the kids up. Jeez, make them wards of the court before killing them if you must get rid of them. When we become parents, that child is our main responsibility and comes before all others. When it comes down to it, all kids cramp your style when it comes to you relationships (no sex life with your spouse anymore, etc. )but )thats the sacrifice you make when you become a parent.

kato
12-07-2006, 11:51 AM
Sick *itch!

Mr. E
12-07-2006, 01:34 PM
Reminds me of Diane Downs, how she she murdered, or tried to murder, her three children because of a man.
The judge gave jurors the choice of considering an alternative lesser charge, endangering the life or health of a child, which carries a sentence ranging from probation to up to 20 years in prison.
Between this and the thread title, I'm confused. Are the children still alive? Surely she wouldn't get probation for murder.

nanandjim
12-07-2006, 01:48 PM
Reminds me of Diane Downs, how she she murdered, or tried to murder, her three children because of a man.
Between this and the thread title, I'm confused. Are the children still alive? Surely she wouldn't get probation for murder.
Diane Downs staged the murder of her children because she thought that her ex-lover didn't want children and would come back to her if the kids were out of the picture. In actuality, the guy returned to his wife and was not ever going to return, no matter what. I believe that he made this clear to Diane. One of her children died. The other two were permanently damaged, one with partial paralysis and the other from the waist down.

This woman plotted with her boyfriend to get rid of the kids. All three children drowned. I believe that her boyfriend pleaded guilty and was already sentenced.

cynpat2000
12-07-2006, 02:02 PM
Sick *itch!Agree!!!! They ought to drown her and him...:furious:

mum33004
12-08-2006, 12:41 AM
Agree!!!! They ought to drown her and him...:furious:
I agree. Drown them both for each kid. So that would be 3 times. EVIL *ITCH!!!:furious:

KatK
12-08-2006, 03:19 AM
Here (http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/12/06/drowning.trial.ap/index.html) is a link to CNN's story on this case. I remember this case from a few years ago, I didn't quite know what to think then, and it's been quiet enough I am not sure what to think now. (I mean whether or not to believe she was battered and not in her right mind, or if she was more malignent.) I hope more information comes out during the trial. Certainly if they prove she participated in the deaths of her children she should be punished.

Mygirlsadie
12-08-2006, 05:20 AM
And lets not forget Susan Smith...drown her two beautiful boys Alex and Michael because of some man who didnt want children....

2luvmy
12-08-2006, 11:12 AM
This happened in my neck of the woods.

Sad thing is, her mom repeatedly asked for the kids!!!!!!!!

nanandjim
12-08-2006, 12:02 PM
And lets not forget Susan Smith...drown her two beautiful boys Alex and Michael because of some man who didnt want children....
Yes, and I believe that this man used the kids as an excuse to break up with Susan Smith. Didn't she also sleep with this guy's father (the boss)? I can't remember.

2sisters
12-08-2006, 12:14 PM
I cann not imagine killing my kids to keep a lowlife man. The kind of man who would be annoyed by his girlfriend kids is probably a lowlife.

GlitchWizard
12-08-2006, 12:56 PM
The article said she needed a man to validate her existance. He existance was already validated three wonderful times over from each of her children. Now she is merely a waste of air.

Jeana (DP)
12-08-2006, 01:36 PM
The article said she needed a man to validate her existance. He existance was already validated three wonderful times over from each of her children. Now she is merely a waste of air.


I've never understood that mindset. If you're nothing without a man then you're nothing with one - just have more baggage.

GlitchWizard
12-08-2006, 01:58 PM
I've never understood that mindset. If you're nothing without a man then you're nothing with one - just have more baggage.
Yep - and the baggage is a man who is okay with being with someone who nothing.

crypto6
12-11-2006, 11:11 PM
Yep - and the baggage is a man who is okay with being with someone who nothing.
As for my bit for the environment, I'm going to stop using men and then throwing them away.



I'm a little skeerd to ask, but do you propose to stop using them altogether or to try recycling them??

Crypto6

partyuv5
12-12-2006, 07:02 AM
I am 38 years old woman. I have five kids. All five with three different men. I had my first son at 19 and married his dad. Divorced 1 year later (a good "see ya on the weekend dad)". I married another man and had 2 girls. I got divorced after 6 years. (He was a great father). I met another man and had a girl and then a boy with him ( never married him but he is good to all the kids). Now I am single. It would be a miracle for me to find a man that would want this "baggage."

My point is that I have been without a companion for about 7 plus years and although I have had opportunities, I would NEVER sacrafice any of my children for a man. No man is worth any single one of my children. Yeah, there have been times that I wish I did not have so much responsibility but God gave me these children for a reason and I am doing it alone "for a reason."

Bottom line is that children are a "gift," you should never discard a gift!

Nocgirl
12-12-2006, 05:56 PM
Party, no offense but if you have 5 kids from 3 different men and have managed to raise them great without being on welfare, or having an idiot boyfriend beating up on them, you are the exception. 5 kids is alot of baggage and not many nice men would tolerate that. I really hope you always put your kids first. Men that do not want to deal with kids should avoid dating women with kids. I know I would if I was a guy,

A majority of women like this disgrace of a mother, have several kids, normally by different men.

I have been collecting data on cases like this, putting together quite a sad portfolio. Women that have more 3 or more children by 2 orf more men are at the highest risk for sad situations like this. Because they put their kids last and all they care about is finding a boyfriend. If they keeping getting pregnant, hopefully they will find one man that sticks around.

Did anyone see the movie "in the best interest of the children"? Lifetime plays it. True story about a woman who had 4 or 5 kids, all with different men and wound up neglecting and abusing them. She was found to have a mental illness and the kids were removed from her care and put into a foster home.

It is sad because cases like that are happening all the time only rarely is the mother mentally ill, just impoverished and overwhlemed with kids to take care of.

californiacarrie
12-12-2006, 06:07 PM
i hope the lesser charge is 20 years per child. Why don't these women just gvie the kids up. Jeez, make them wards of the court before killing them if you must get rid of them. When we become parents, that child is our main responsibility and comes before all others. When it comes down to it, all kids cramp your style when it comes to you relationships (no sex (http://www.adsrve.com/linkredirect.php?h=14,-1,websleuths.com,0) life with your spouse anymore, etc. )but )thats the sacrifice you make when you become a parent.

I've seen many parents try. They call child services and tell them they can't handle their child or don't want their child - and you know what child services does? Threatens the parent with child abandonment charges, telling them they can go to jail or be held financially liable for all costs of care for the child. I wonder a lot if this doesn't place a child in a more dangerous situation such as this. It's really sad.

2sisters
12-13-2006, 12:30 AM
I've seen many parents try. They call child services and tell them they can't handle their child or don't want their child - and you know what child services does? Threatens the parent with child abandonment charges, telling them they can go to jail or be held financially liable for all costs of care for the child. I wonder a lot if this doesn't place a child in a more dangerous situation such as this. It's really sad.Don't get me wrong, I don't condone child abandonment but if it's that or death, I will pick abondonment.
Anyways, she has been convicted of child endangerment.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,236123,00.html

GlitchWizard
12-13-2006, 10:28 AM
A majority of women like this disgrace of a mother, have several kids, normally by different men.
And in many cases, it's because the men leave and she truely believes the next one will stick around forever. Bad people are bad people, but THIS isn't a situation that makes someone bad.

2luvmy
12-13-2006, 10:35 AM
I am really saddened by the verdict. I believe she was just as guilty as "her man". They did reenactments, etc. And unless there was physical evidence of him holding her back and restricting him from saving her children, I just don't see how she could not have gotten all of them are some of those babies out!


I am sad.

LinasK
12-13-2006, 07:36 PM
And lets not forget Susan Smith...drown her two beautiful boys Alex and Michael because of some man who didnt want children....
That's exactly what I thought of- another Susan Smith! Her mode of killing was identical too. Gee, I wonder if she thought of Susan Smith as a role model?:razz:

4Angels
12-13-2006, 08:10 PM
It is a sad sad day in the US when the mother, who bore those children, gets a lighter sentence then the boyfriend.

He may have done the deed, but she brought them into this world and failed them.

She should be on death row and he should have life in prison.

She held the ultimate responsibility to them and I'm sick of women getting away with murder. Are we this scared to kill something just because it's capable of giving life? She's apparently not only capable of giving life but destroying it too! Where is the justice for these children! Where is the justice for their fathers and the families!

Why is she granted a lighter sentence when she failed them the most! Fry her!

She's cold, calculated, and vicious. Someone rip her ovaries and uterus from her right now because she doesn't deserve to have the same rights as me! Why do we waste our money on crap like this. One bullet, one gun, one problem solved. :banghead:

partyuv5
12-14-2006, 06:40 AM
Nocgirl, Yes, I was offended. Your assumption is that a person with five children with three men makes me poverty or trash.

I am not on welfare and did work as a paralegal for seven years (8 to 5). After the two younger kids, I started working evenings as a server at Harrah's to save on daycare expense. (Dad worked days at Harley). When we were together, that offsetted daycare. I do receive child support for the kids. I am still at Harrah's and he is till at Harley.

I am not one of the stats that you have done research on. My oldest has moved out and is going to college (by the way, he is gay) and doing well.
My kids' ages are 19, 16, 13, 10 and 6. None are drug addicts. none have been in trouble at school or with the law. They have emotional and financial support from both parents.

Nocgirl, maybe I am the exception, but don't be so quick to judge me or mine.

Angelmommy
12-14-2006, 10:17 AM
I was offended too. I have had 3 children (four pregnancies) by 3 different men. I am also not on welfare and have worked very hard to take care of myself and my children. My children have ALWAYS come first. I am married now, but it wasn't out of some "desperation" to find a man.

And I don't know where you are gathering your stats ~ I am not saying that they are invalid because again, I don't know where your figures are being obtained. But I can tell you I know several woman who have had children by more than one man and they are successful mothers ~ I know no one on welfare.

I happen to think you are giving a generalization that isn't as accurate as you may think. For the record, I too would NEVER compromise my children for a relationship with any man ~ in fact my first marraige fell apart because I put my children first. Most women with children approach dating with a "package deal" attitude that impresses the importance of a potential partners relationship with her children. If that doesn't work then the relationship doesn't proceed.

And that is my opinion from life experience living in a small town, large metro area, and medium sized city. I have no stats or documentation - just a lot of good friends who are great mothers.

Nocgirl
12-14-2006, 12:09 PM
Like I said you are the exception. A majority of cases out here that involve severe child abuse or CPS involvment involve a single mothers with multiple children. I just don't throw out stats without any proof. Unfortunately many mothers in your former situation do not fare too well, and these are the ones we here about in the news.

So, how do we get mothers that are struggling to raise children on their own, to become good moms? Your children sound like mom did a good job. How do we keep women from getting involved with men that do not want kids around?

Children that are in a home with a boyfriend, or stepfather present are 8 times more likely to be abused. That statistic has been proven and shown.

Angelmommy
12-14-2006, 12:39 PM
Could you please share where you got your information? Again, I am not saying that I doubt you, but I would like to be able to see for myself what kind of studies have been done and a breakdown as to type of area (urban/non-urban) social status and other demographics. Thanks.

Jeana (DP)
12-14-2006, 01:03 PM
There are all sorts of situations that could bring about the circumstances of having children with more than one man, or more than one woman, as the case may be. What I'm sure we can all agree on is that this woman should have died trying to save the lives of her children. Let's not beat one another down with statistics. None of us are in a position to sit in judgment on the others here.

Nocgirl
12-14-2006, 01:27 PM
I get my information from the same sources you do, the local media, and court files that I am been collecting.

As far as the statistic of children being more at risk when there is a boyfriend or step dad in the house, I was reading it in a parenting magazine in my ob'gyn's office . If you google it, many different stats come up. A canadian advocacy group claims its high as 33 times more likely when kids are living with a boyfriend or a stepdad.

My teenage step-daughter is a statistic unfortunately. She is living with us now due to sexual abuse from moms boyfriend, then step dad, now soon to be ex husband. He goes to trial in Jan for 12 counts of sexual misc. with a minor.

It is really not a surprise, just a stat that some single moms really do not want to hear. The more people your children are exposed to that are around the children often, the more likely they are to be abused.

Go to doenetwork or the charley proect and read upon missing children cases. The % of cases where a step dad or boyfriend is a suspect in the childs death or disappearance is staggering, compared to biological fathers. Biological fathers are much less likely to hurt their own children.

I am going to be a child advocate out here next month, my training starts in Jan. I will be handling abuse cases. I will be handling only 1 case at a time and I will be compiling data on my cases and which families appear to be at most risk for abuse.

So I am not saying that all single moms that have multiple kids from different men are screwed up, but some are. My younger sister has a friend and all 8 of the children in that family are all from different fathers. Her childhood wasa very lonely, sad and troubled. The mother is mentally ill as well.

imthemom
09-09-2008, 09:17 AM
http://www.hoinews.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=187440

The woman who was convicted in 2006 of child endangerment in the deaths of her three children will be free Tuesday.
Amanda Hamm, 32, is set to be released from Dwight Correctional Center in Tuesday morning.

Being released already, what a shame, you kill your kids and get out in a couple years! WTH!!:mad:

PattyCake
09-10-2008, 10:11 PM
AMANDA HAMM WALKS FREE.

"The latter charge said she allowed her children to be caught in a life-threatening situation in the back seat of her car while it was parked on a steep boat ramp on the lake."



How nice, another mother of the year. Excuse me while I visit the lady's room. :sick:

http://www.pantagraph.com/articles/2008/09/10/news/doc48c68221eaa2b996981112.txt

Belinda
05-08-2010, 02:08 PM
Published September 11, 2008 by:
Susan Sonnen

On September 9, Amanda Hamm, convicted of child endangerment in 2006, has been released from the Dwight Correctional Center in Illinois.

snip

Initially, only Lagrone was charged with murder (nine counts of murder for the three children), but soon Hamm was similarly charged. The two were tried separately. Lagrone was found guilty of murder and sentenced to life in prison with no chance for parole. Hamm was sentenced to ten years, half of the possible maximum term, in prison for child endangerment. The three years that she had already spent behind bars were counted as time served. More time was taken off her sentence due to good behavior. In all, Amanda Hamm served less than five years for her involvement in the deaths of her three young children.

More at link:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/1027460/amanda_hamm_released_from_prison.html?cat=49

Kymistry35
05-08-2010, 02:40 PM
It makes me sick that she murdered those beautiful babies and basically got a slap on the wrist! She was their mother for petes sake! If anyone should have gotten the death penalty or LWOP it should have been her because it was her duty to protect those kids.

Belinda
05-08-2010, 04:50 PM
It really burns me up that they keep letting the mother's of all of these abused children walk away. Like they didn't know what the boyfriend was doing or they had no control, or, or, or. The courts need to stop the madness and hold these women accountable for allowing their children to be abused and murdered. Whether they participate in it or not isn't the point. They were in a position to stop it and they utterly failed to do so every single time.

kbl8201
05-09-2010, 01:14 AM
child endangerment? ummmmmm there dead. arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

just cry in front of the jury/judge (crocidile tears) and blame the boyfriend/husband and i guess you can kill anyone and get away with it :(

DairyGirl
05-09-2010, 02:26 AM
Those poor babies are probably spinning in their graves.

Belinda
05-30-2010, 06:43 AM
This case is just itching my crawl. I do not understand why Amanda is not in jail. I do not understand. It is wrong on so many levels. Even just from the angle of pure numbers, she was sentenced to 10 years. She did exactly (including time served before conviction) 4 years 9 months 1 day. I do not understand. I will not understand. This is wrong. Sorry, rant over.

wendybtn
09-19-2014, 03:17 PM
While I was reading this, the first thing I also thought of was Diane Downs! The 1980's precursor to Susan Smith, etc.

FinallyRegistered
10-27-2015, 01:18 PM
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/judge-to-rule-if-mother-involved-in-childrens-drownings-abused-new-family/ar-BBmtaWV

Here we go again - quote from today's article:

"The deaths of Ware's first three children again took center stage Monday in a courtroom - this time in juvenile court in Cook County - as prosecutors argued that Ware's three living children had been abused and neglected."

tlcya
10-27-2015, 01:31 PM
uggh. I remember this case. It was the talk of central IL. People still recall the names Hamm and Magrone and will tell you they are the ones who killed those babies in cold blood by driving the car into the lake.

Rayemonde
11-07-2015, 08:39 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3306460/Mother-watched-ex-boyfriend-drown-three-children-party-fighting-regain-custody-new-family-officials-uncovered-past.html



While LaGrove is still serving life for murder, Hamm was released after serving five years for child neglect, before going on to marry Leo Ware, changing her surname and having three more children.

However, those children, now aged five, three and one, were taken away after a doctor recognized her as she was giving birth to her youngest child, and Ware is now fighting to get them back.

Rayemonde
01-04-2016, 02:48 PM
November 2015:


A judge ruled Friday that a mother convicted in connection with the drowning of her three children is an abusive and neglectful parent, a major defeat in her legal battle for her new family...


The judge also noted Amanda Ware's mental illness and history of drug abuse. He said she hadn't kept up with mental health treatment.

Further hearings will be held to decide if the two boys and a girl — who range in age from 1 to 5 — should become wards of the court...

The judge also noted Amanda Ware's mental illness and history of drug abuse. He said she hadn't kept up with mental health treatment...

Attorneys for Amanda Ware, 39, and Leo Ware, 49, said the children showed no signs of abuse and were healthy, even crying and taking off their shoes and socks to try to prevent child protection workers from taking them from their home last year.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/d030429df7d6422496007359bd680103/illinois-mom-who-watched-3-kids-drown-fights-new-family