OK-Caitlin Elizabeth Wooten age 16 found deceased

[ketel0ne]

ADA, Okla. (AP) _ A man abducted a 16-year-old Ada cheerleader at the end of the school day Friday at Ada High School, prompting authorities to issue a statewide alert, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol said.

Caitlin Elizabeth Wooten was last seen about 3 p.m. Friday getting into a dark green, late model Dodge pickup at gunpoint, officials said. She's described as white, about 5 feet 4 inches tall and weighs about 125 pounds. She was wearing an Ada High School cheerleading uniform and has shoulder-length, sandy-brown hair, officials said.

The suspect in the abduction is Jerry Don Savage, 47, a white male, 5 feet 11 inches tall, about 180 pounds with green eyes, Meyer said.

``He's supposed to be in possession of a gun and should be considered armed and dangerous,'' Meyer said.

Amber Alerts activate an early alert system and notify the public as well as law enforcement agencies outside of the jurisdiction where a child has been reported missing.
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5013994/detail.html#

[ShowerSinger]

I'm glad police know who they are looking for, but WHAT is the relationship between the two? My God, abduction at gunpoint??? Not enough info on that link. STILL, pure evil to do such a thing. Prayers for her safety! Please keep us updated here, absolut! That's just awful. How was this sicko allowed to get that close to this young lady? I mean abducted from a school with a weapon???

[mysteriew]

I'm glad police know who they are looking for, but WHAT is the relationship between the two? My God, abduction at gunpoint??? Not enough info on that link. STILL, pure evil to do such a thing. Prayers for her safety! Please keep us updated here, absolut! That's just awful. How was this sicko allowed to get that close to this young lady? I mean abducted from a school with a weapon???


Savage called the grandmother and threatened to harm the girl. He had recently been arrested for attempting to kidnap the girls mother. Donna Wooten obtained a protective order on Savage on 083005. http://newsok.com/xml/rss/1624097/

[mysteriew]

KTEN News has learned she may be with her mother's boyfriend, 47 year-old Jerry Don Savage. Savage is 5’11”, 180 pounds with green eyes and has thinning brown hair.

They may be driving a blue or green Nissan pick-up truck.

On August 29th, 2005 Savage was accused of kidnapping his own ex-girlfriend.
http://www.kten.com/article.asp?id=10277

[fourboys]

Okla. Teen, Alleged Abductor Found Dead

Saturday, September 24, 2005
The Associated Press

A teenage cheerleader who was abducted after school was found shot to death Saturday along with the body of a man who authorities said called the girl's family and threatened to harm her.

Caitlin Elizabeth Wooten, 16, and Jerry Don Savage, 47, were found by troopers in an Oklahoma Highway Patrol helicopter, said city spokesman Mark Bratcher. Both died of gunshot wounds, but it wasn't clear when, he said.

http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050924/APA/509240824&cachetime=5

[concernedperson]

There is the protective order again. It just doesn't work. It just seems that victims have no rights at all but to wait to be preyed upon.

[ShowerSinger]

Prayers for the young lady's family. Shocking news!
You just really have to be careful of predatory sickos like him. He should have been in jail. Too bad he was so sadistic. Too bad he didn't off just himself, and earlier--before he even met this family.

[Jovin]

He obviously did this to get back at the girl's mom. Doesn't it just make you sick?

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[mysteriew]

The bodies of Caitlin Elizabeth Wooten and Jerry Don Savage were spotted by troopers who were searching for them in an Oklahoma Highway Patrol helicopter shortly before 10 a.m., said Mark Bratcher, a spokesman for the city.

The troopers guided a search team on the ground to the partially wooded area in Pontotoc County six miles southwest of Ada, Bratcher said. Each of the victims died from gunshot wounds, but it was not known how long they had been dead, he said.
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/5015846/detail.html

[Bobbisangel]

He obviously did this to get back at the girl's mom. Doesn't it just make you sick?

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It's horrible. I'm wondering if he called the grandmother right before he picked
Caitlin up at school or if he called earlier in the afternoon. If it was earlier you would think that the gramma would have called the school and had them hold Caitlin in the office until someone could go pick her up. This guy had already tried to kidnapp her mother so he surely would have been taken seriously.

It's a sick evil person that would do something like this to get back at a mother. My heart goes out to this mom. What a horrible thing to have to live with along with the loss of her girl. Heart breaking.

[Jovin]

I can't understand how anyone can be so cold and unfeeling. It sure does make you wonder.

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[montana_16]

This is just so horrific. I looked at this young girl's photo and tears are streaming down my face. Poor little innocent thing. Killed only to make her mother suffer.

This is so incredibly evil.

[Jovin]

That's the hardest part to accept, Montana. What a ruthless individual. If he wanted to get back at the mother, he should have at least kept it between the two of them. This is the worst punishment for her, and he knew it!

[KatherineQ]

I can't understand how anyone can be so cold and unfeeling. It sure does make you wonder.

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Oh, Jovin, that's not cold and unfeeling, that's blinding passion and rage. He didn't even care if he died, he was totally consumed, even in his own death, with hurting his ex-girlfriend.

SOMEHOW, we as a society need to be able to sort out the men who are in a murderous rage like this, from men who do stupid jerky things. A lot of men do stupid things, and mean things, when they are dumped, but we need to find how to predict the ones who will murder vs. the ones who will act pissy.

The Battered Women's shelter here did a study, and they had some interesting stuff to offer - at a break up, some men act completely out of character and do threatening things and it completely surprises the women. Those men typically are fairly harmless. It's the men who have said all along that they'll kill the woman if she leaves him, and the men who have had a long history of abusive and violent and threatening behavior who are the ones to really watch. Those men, somehow, we need to do more than a paper restraining order.

[Jovin]

.......... Those men, somehow, we need to do more than a paper restraining order.

We've all seen men like that, or at least heard of someone who's had dealings with that sort of person. Thank God I know of none that actually went the whole route and did something so terrible!

It's so hard to see the innocents suffer.
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[IdahoMom]

Oh, Jovin, that's not cold and unfeeling, that's blinding passion and rage. He didn't even care if he died, he was totally consumed, even in his own death, with hurting his ex-girlfriend.

SOMEHOW, we as a society need to be able to sort out the men who are in a murderous rage like this, from men who do stupid jerky things. A lot of men do stupid things, and mean things, when they are dumped, but we need to find how to predict the ones who will murder vs. the ones who will act pissy.

The Battered Women's shelter here did a study, and they had some interesting stuff to offer - at a break up, some men act completely out of character and do threatening things and it completely surprises the women. Those men typically are fairly harmless. It's the men who have said all along that they'll kill the woman if she leaves him, and the men who have had a long history of abusive and violent and threatening behavior who are the ones to really watch. Those men, somehow, we need to do more than a paper restraining order.
I agree that the men that threaten to harm should be taken VERY seriously. I knew a guy about 15 years ago that was a terrible hot head. He was constantly threatening people, and everyone knew he had guns. His wife left him, and the threats started. Why the courts didn't stop her daughter's visitation with him baffles me. One night my friend went to pick her daughter up at his house. She had just made it through the gate, when he stepped out of the shadows and shot her in the face. He then leaned over her, pulled her legs apart, and shot her between the legs. The coward then shot himself. My friend miraculously survived, although she has lifelong debilitating physical and mental wounds.
My mother was with a man she left her 5 children to be with. He used to beat her in front of us all the time. Finally, he beat her so badly he hospitalized her.
These wife beaters and goons that threaten to kill do not miraculously self-rehabilitate (don't know if they can be rehabiltated)! They are a ticking time bomb, waiting to go off!

[lisag]

I am so sad for this young girl. I can not believe some people would go to any extreme to hurt someone they supposedly cared about !!

[IdahoMom]

The man was a sicko! The restraining order obviously wasn't enough! This happens way too often!

[AlwaysHope]

This makes me sick... How can someone do this? I guess we will never have the answers....

[vanillasky]

Wow, and did you see where the landowner where they were found was also arrested as a possible accessory? :eek:

(From article posted above)

http://www.timesdaily.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050924/APA/509240824&cachetime=5

Savage had previously lived in the area and knew the owner of the land where the bodies were found, authorities said. The landowner, Saye Sliger, was arrested as a possible accessory to the crime, Brown said.



This is so horrible, I will never understand those who think they have to bring others down before taking themselves out. :( I know a man (my ex) who I will likely read about in the papers one of these days doing something like this. Just a walking time bomb, and nothing anyone can do about it, until he actually "does something".

[T'sNana]

I cannot believe the sicko's that run rampant in this country. It seems there is a lot more mental illness and just plain mean people out there!! FWIW, I had a restraining order against my ex-husband at one point. It was just a piece of paper....the idea behind it great, if unrealistic! My ex would do things like try to run me off the road with our 2 children in the car (this was after an award ceremony for our daughter when she was in 3rd grade and he was mad because our son was scared of the way he was acting and would not go across the gymnasium to sit with him), many phone calls just harrassing, many threatening phone calls, leaving recorded threats against me on the phone, stalking me....on and on and on. He would leave before police would arrive or would be his "charismatic" self and act like I'M the one who is bothering him. There was no caller ID at that time but I did have the answering machine tapes and neighbors who witnessed him being on my property and acting like a madman and him stalking me. The police would try to "fix" it by "talking" to him. That did not work. I finally let the restraining order/protective order expire as it was doing me no good. He towed the line of what LE would let him get by with. He kidnapped my children 3 times; one when we were separated and I didn't have the money to file for divorced yet (they do nothing then because there is no custody agreement), the second time he was in another state and I was forced to let my kids (they were 5 and 9) fly across the country for visitation alone when he was the one who left the area (FINALLY) and he claimed he lost their plane tickets. My parents and I spent the day and evening at the airport and I had to get money from my parents to fly them back as I was a single parent and he ONLY was made to pay $140.00 per month in child support when he drove a Land Rover, dressed in designer clothes, lived in a nice home, etc. all because he was a "diabetic" and had to pay for his mediicine, which he didn't...he worked for the VA and was a vet and paid NOTHING, but I could not prove it. The last time he kidnapped my kids (they were 11 and 15) and my daughter was being rebellious and was mad at me for getting grounded. By this time, he had moved a state away from us and he came to the halfway pickup point (given by the judge) and didn't have my children and he was smiling and laughing at me. I called the police and the police could not help me because I had no legal papers with me! (From that point on all the child custody papers were with me!) So, I went home and called my attorney (who was new to the case and a friend) and he went to my ex's attorney's office and told him he WILL report the case and file (with the FBI) a parent abduction (to another state) paperwork if my children were not returned in 3 hours! My ex sent them via his girlfriend....he was a :chicken: I pretty much always sat back and let him demean me to my children, etc. as to not cause any problems or make it worse for my children, but that didn't seem to make much difference. But, I'd hate to know what would have happened if I had fought back!

Finally, my brothers had a little talk with him. After that, we got along decently and he didn't do it anymore. About a year after this, he took his own life over a lady he was seeing. I don't think he meant to kill himself...he just wanted the attention from her and she didn't "bite" and he died. It was very difficult for my kids (then aged 12 and 16). It was also difficult for me to see my kids hurting. I hate to say this, but my children (young adults now) actually became more relaxed, less stressed and did better in school after the initial shock of his death wore off. My family said it was justice by his own hands. I had told the court how unstable he seemed and had grown to know that he was and they apparently just thought I was an emotional mom, etc. *shrug*

Also, I had a court order that he keep AT LEAST $5000.00 in life insurance on himself per child and he left it to his ex-girlfriend and I could do nothing about it since the life insurance is considered "Contractual" even though I had a court order. :banghead:

Sorry for the length but sometimes the background helps to show what little a piece of paper does.

[SewingDeb]

T'sNana,
You have really been through it! I'm sure it was a relief to you when he finally did himself in, as sad as that is for your children.

[T'sNana]

He was not a very nice man and it started showing after 2 years of a 7 year marriage. He did much more, not to the children personally but they saw it. We are all much better off now. But, I see the emotional scars he left on my kids though they are doing great despite them. These things make us who we are today. T'sNana,
You have really been through it! I'm sure it was a relief to you when he finally did himself in, as sad as that is for your children.

[mysteriew]

Faye Sliger, who was originally arrested for accessory to murder, got some bad news just a few hours ago.

The district attorneys office filed felony murder charges against him.

Jerry Don Savage used Sliger’s car to abduct 16-year old Caitlin Wooten after school just one week ago.

Their bodies were also found shot to death on Sligers’ property
outside of Ada.

Today, mixed emotions filled the lobby of the Pontotoc County
courthouse as friends and family gathered to hear the charges.

What they didn’t expect was that Sliger would face a felony murder
charge. His attorney says he pleaded not guilty.

Assistant District Attorney Chris Ross said he made his final
decision to file the charges based upon hard evidence against Sliger and his involvement.

The forensic evidence is still pending but interviews have been
conducted.
http://www.kten.com/article.asp?id=10389

[PrayersForMaura]

this is so terrible.

Prayers for Caitlin, who is now in a better place from this terrible world that can't protect the innocent. And prayers for her mother who must be living a complete nightmare right now.
May she find the strength to somehow survive. I can't imagine what she is going through. :(

[mindi77]

I just saw them on dr.phil. I know they said it was taped 2 weeks after the murder. When he got caught kidnapping his girlfriend he had a bag with him that had the standard duct tape, rope, guns and ammo. He was arrested and put in jail and was able to bond himself out 30 hours later.

The sheriff called the women 2 hrs before he was released and said she should leave cause he is getting out so she did.

She left her girls 15 yr old amanda and 16yr old caitlin with her parents thinking that he would just leave them alone if she wasn't with them.
He took her from school and called the grandmother right after he had Caitlin and said have her mother call me within 5 minutes or she is dead and she tried to plead with him and he said she was wasting the time cause now it is under 5 min.

The grandmother was really upset and said it took her 4 min to get to her daughter and told her to call him. When she did they were walking through the woods and he told her where exactally she was and then hung up and killed her and himself in that location.

It is horrible this man shouldn't have been released at all let alone 30 hours later. That is crap.

[SadieMae]

I don't understand how he managed to get bail for this???? I feel so sorry for the mother. She felt her daughters would be safer without being with her. How could she fathom he would go after one of her girls, when it was her he wanted to get back at. I can't imagine the pain and guilt she'll feel the rest of her life, but it wasn't her fault. It was the legal system I blame for letting her down. He should have never been let out!!!:banghead:

[mindi77]

I totally agree with ya. The chief of police said that his bail was set and pretty high for there county but he had enough in savings to cover it. The womens brother was also a police officer and he was the one that had to tell them she had been found.

Yeah I don't know if she was thinking clearly when she took off. But she did say that after she took off things got calmer and they had all started being less scared. Yeah the system let them down he should have been in jail I mean he had a bag with things in them I would consider that pre-meditatied.

[mysteriew]

The family of an Ada teenager who was killed by her mother's ex-boyfriend is joining the call for a law allowing judges to deny bond if a suspect is considered dangerous.

The killing came less than a month after Savage bailed out of jail after he was accused of kidnapping Wooten's mother, Donna.

The judge couldn't deny bond for Savage because he wasn't accused of first-degree murder.
http://www.kxii.com/home/headlines/2060401.html

[PrayersForMaura]

Caitlin’s Law Approved by OK Senate Panel

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...Paddack said SB 1037 contains three major reforms that are tough on crime and smart for Oklahoma families. The bill is aimed at strengthening bail laws by requiring persons charged with a violent crime to prove they are not a public danger before they may post bail. It also beefs up victim protection order (VPO) laws in Oklahoma to mirror federal VPO laws.
Finally, the bill will allow for an electronic notification system, called Victim Identification and Notification Everyday (VINE) to be put into place statewide in order to notify victims when offenders move throughout the criminal justice system.

"This bill will not bring back my daughter," Donna Wooten, mother of 16-year-old Caitlin, said. "But if it protects just one Oklahoma family from going through what my family has suffered, if it can help create a safer Oklahoma , then this bill is the greatest thing we could ever do to honor the memory of Caitlin."

More: http://feeds.austinnews.net/?rid=ac15be8ab3dc5a5c&cat=3772e08ad12afe08&f=1