GA-What happened to SueAnn Ray missing woman in Georgia?

[dancingdaisy]

This is a link with info on the case:

http://www.angelsmissing.com/forum/SUE-ANN-RAY-MISSING-t2721.html

[dancingdaisy]

The last person to see her alive was her estranged husband who has been arrested in unrelated matters, something about terrorist threats. Her little dog was found dead by her sister and his family refused to let the police search their property which is supposedly 15 or so acres.

[upallnite]

Didn't they say also on Nancy Grace tonight that the husband picked up their child on a day he was not supposed to ( the day she went missing) and took her to his mothers and I don't think he was supposed to know she was missing yet. hmmmm.That's weird also that her cousin went missing 10 years ago to the date. hmmmm.

[dancingdaisy]

Didn't they say also on Nancy Grace tonight that the husband picked up their child on a day he was not supposed to ( the day she went missing) and took her to his mothers and I don't think he was supposed to know she was missing yet. hmmmm.That's weird also that her cousin went missing 10 years ago to the date. hmmmm.
All that sounds really suspicious to me. And the fact that he was the last one to see her alive at his garage (shop), which is in his backyard, according to what was said on Nancy Grace yesterday. Why is he not a suspect? :banghead:

[upallnite]

Greta just asked a good question, whether or not the police have checked to see if her oil was changed or not. OOOOOHHHH. I like that question!!!

[dancingdaisy]

Greta just asked a good question, whether or not the police have checked to see if her oil was changed or not. OOOOOHHHH. I like that question!!!
thats a very good question! i also wondered if they had checked the cameras in the wal-mart parking lot where they found her van. it was backed in a space far from the store, so they may not be able to see it, but her sister says she cant back in a parking space.

[upallnite]

thats a very good question! i also wondered if they had checked the cameras in the wal-mart parking lot where they found her van. it was backed in a space far from the store, so they may not be able to see it, but her sister says she cant back in a parking space.
That is an even better question!!!! There should be surveilance video!!!

[dancingdaisy]

That is an even better question!!!! There should be surveilance video!!!
maybe there would be a scent of who drove the van there, or figerprints in the van as well :dance:

[docwho3]

I just watched Nancy Grace & it looks like the police have a good idea of who did the crime.

For others reading this:Yes on the show they did say the police have watched security video of the parking lot & of the the inside of the store as well.
The show also brought out that the ex or estranged husband had made a flurry of phone calls to his relatives at the time Sueann was at his home/shop (last place she was known to be alive) and those relatives have refused to allow dog teams to search their property. Do they have something to hide? Makes me wonder but time will tell. Trying to keep an open mind here since T.V. shows have been wrong in reporting before.

I also wonder if perhaps this was a planned thing with the date in mind so that it would look as if her disappearance was tied to her cousins disappearance on the same date 10 years earlier.

Her child was taken from school by the ex on the day Sueann disappeared and her father said that was very unusual & had never happened before this date so Nancy Grace asked if the child might have been used as bait to lure Sueann to the Ex's.

I hate to be a paranoid conspiracy type but this case really seems odd at first read.

[michelle]

this is so sad, i didnt hear anything about her cousin that went missing 10 yrs ago, does anyone know the circumstances regarding that case?

[upallnite]

They talked about it a little on Nancy Grace tonight, maybe there is a transcript?

[dancingdaisy]

this is so sad, i didnt hear anything about her cousin that went missing 10 yrs ago, does anyone know the circumstances regarding that case? They say their still investigating. So its still not solved :(

[upallnite]

Her cousin's name is Heather Teague

[michelle]

http://www.whereisheatherteague.com/ I just found that if its ok to post?...

[dancingdaisy]

They talked about it a little on Nancy Grace tonight, maybe there is a transcript?
This is a good link:

www.whereisheather.us/dynasty.html

[upallnite]

Thanks Michelle, did she disappear on the same exact day 10 years ago?

[dancingdaisy]

Thanks Michelle, did she disappear on the same exact day 10 years ago?
Yes, same day in 1995

[michelle]

yes upallnite, isnt this crazy, i feel so bad for that poor family!! what a huge tragedy, so sad...

[michelle]

Bless her poor mothers heart, she even posted on the website a direct number to reach her....Everytime i read of another missing person, i feel so helpless....

[upallnite]

I wonder if her estranged hubby had something to do with Heather's disappearance?

[dancingdaisy]

I wonder if her estranged hubby had something to do with Heather's disappearance?
They have only been married for 7 years and been seperated for 6 months, i wonder if they knew each other when this happened?

[michelle]

well according to that website on heather i think they are leading towards a suspect that apparently they think may be connected to 3 other murders. They dont think these cases are related, just a very bad coincidence.....

[michelle]

from what i gather from the heather website, heathers mom sarah, and sue anns dad danny, are brother and sister....

[dancingdaisy]

They have only been married for 7 years and been seperated for 6 months, i wonder if they knew each other when this happened?
i dont understand why his family refused to let LE search their property? in my opion if you dont have anything to hide, then why not let them do their job, and move on with the investigation? :furious:

[michelle]

i dont understand why his family refused to let LE search their property? in my opion if you dont have anything to hide, then why not let them do their job, and move on with the investigation? :furious:
I agree, i would let them do whatever they need!!

[concernedperson]

From this article just up in the Atlanta Journal the police know a lot more than they are telling. Lots of info.

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/metro/cherokee/1005/14metmissing.html

[MrsMush99]

i dont understand why his family refused to let LE search their property? in my opion if you dont have anything to hide, then why not let them do their job, and move on with the investigation? :furious:

They obviously have something to hide, otherwise they would have let them search.

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I still can't get over the fact that her cousin disappeared 10 years ago on the same day. I mean, that is really just so weird!!!!

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I still can't get over the fact that her cousin disappeared 10 years ago on the same day. I mean, that is really just so weird!!!!

Thats just really sad, too much for any family to bear with one missing let alone 2....

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I still can't get over the fact that her cousin disappeared 10 years ago on the same day. I mean, that is really just so weird!!!!


I think it is beyond coincidence. Someone planned it that way, imo.

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Mods, please move my post to the discussion area. I forgot this is for information and support only. Sorry.

[michelle]

I read that someone broke her poor doggies neck and put it back in the dog house with the chain wrapped around its neck 3 times....This is too personal IMO...

[concernedperson]

I just saw a segment on Catherine Crier's show. The in-laws are defending their property similar to the Hatfield's and the McCoy's. I will bet that SueAnn is buried on their property somewhere. We got another case of dysfunction here folks.

[michelle]

I just saw a segment on Catherine Crier's show. The in-laws are defending their property similar to the Hatfield's and the McCoy's. I will bet that SueAnn is buried on their property somewhere. We got another case of dysfunction here folks.
Cant they get a search warrant and go search it then??

[Paradise]

If the parents won't let LE search their property, then to get a search warrent I think they need some sort of evidence before they go digging around.

[Bobbisangel]

If the parents won't let LE search their property, then to get a search warrent I think they need some sort of evidence before they go digging around.


It is just plain stupid not to let LE in to search your property unless you are hiding something. I would think that the husband's family would cooperate with LE just to get rid of them. It only makes them look guilty...aren't they smart enough to realize that? Reminds me of the parents of that little creep Joran Van Der Snoot.

[Jesstexas]

I would think the "flurry" of phone calls between the estranged husband and his family the night Sue Ann disappeared would be enough to get a search warrant for his parents' property. Where else would he put her body where he could be confident no hunters or hikers or whatnot would accidentally come across her?

If he drove Sue Ann's van to the Walmart, he had to have help. It's about 25 miles from there back to the town he lives in, so it's a safe bet that he didn't walk back home. Somebody other than him knows exactly what happened.

Michelle - I haven't heard anything about a murdered dog. Where did that information come from?

[LButler]

Here's something I find strange.... the van was located at Wal-Mart about 11 pm that evening. Video surveillance puts her inside the store at about 5:00 that evening. The information seemed to indicate that she was ex's house about 6:30 and did not show for a 7:00 apptment. That seems to indicate that she shopped and left Wal-Mart without incident. Her father said she was expected at his house but he had not heard from her and assumed she had changed her plans. I don't think it's a mere coincidence that her van showed back up at the Wal-Mart later that night. I think someone wanted to make it look like she was abducted from Wal-Mart. And, since she had not talked to her family, but had gone to the ex's house, who else likely knew she had even stopped there? I think he saw a Wal-Mart bag in the car or she mentioned being there earlier and he decided to stash the car back on the lot after getting rid of the body at his family's property?

[Gozgals]

JessTexas: Here is some of the information on the dog you were seeking. I too have been following this case but have not be able to post.



GRACE: Back to Don Plummer with the "AJC," "Atlanta Journal- Constitution." Don, the death -- I know a lot of people may not see a connection, but the death of her little pet dog -- we have seen many, many times -- or at least, I have as a prosecutor -- violence enacted towards someone`s home, their car, key, the tires slashed, mailbox mowed down, dog, cat killed, all in a building rage.

Have you looked into that at all, Don Plummer, the fact that the little dog, her little babydoll dog, had a chain wrapped around its neck three times and was found placed back in its little house?


PLUMMER: Well, I believe Sandy Chasm when she says that. One of the difficulties that you often find in cases like this is that people don`t make official reports. They don`t call the police. They don`t document a lot of things that do happen that lead up to violent encounters of some sort. So I`m unable to document it myself in the retrospect here.


This information was gathered from Nancy Grace Transcript from 10-13-05

This can be located at http://www.findsueann.org/index.html

I took this information form the forum.

Let's find SueAnn.

Gozgals

[Jesstexas]

Very interesting, Gozgals. Thanks for the info. So when, in relation to Sue Ann's disappearance, was her dog murdered? It wasn't the same weekend as she disappeared, was it? I can see Sue Ann being very upset by that if it happened just prior to her disappearance.

LButler - it may be a coincidence; it may not be. The Wal-Mart parking lot is right off the highway - there's not much else out there that's right off the highway and it's by far the busiest spot in the area (hence, no one would pay any particular attention to someone parking a vehicle there). And her van wasn't found until the Monday after the Friday she disappeared. Wal-Mart's video cameras recorded her at the store on Friday afternoon, but I don't think there are any cameras out in the parking lot where the van was left, so it's not known when the van was left there that weekend.

I wonder whether the husband would have acknowledged that Sue Ann was even at his house that Friday night if it weren't for Sue Ann's friend's account that Sue Ann was on the phone with the friend, waiting at the husband's house for him to arrive.

[Marilynilpa]

Very interesting, Gozgals. Thanks for the info. So when, in relation to Sue Ann's disappearance, was her dog murdered? It wasn't the same weekend as she disappeared, was it? I can see Sue Ann being very upset by that if it happened just prior to her disappearance.

LButler - it may be a coincidence; it may not be. The Wal-Mart parking lot is right off the highway - there's not much else out there that's right off the highway and it's by far the busiest spot in the area (hence, no one would pay any particular attention to someone parking a vehicle there). And her van wasn't found until the Monday after the Friday she disappeared. Wal-Mart's video cameras recorded her at the store on Friday afternoon, but I don't think there are any cameras out in the parking lot where the van was left, so it's not known when the van was left there that weekend.

I wonder whether the husband would have acknowledged that Sue Ann was even at his house that Friday night if it weren't for Sue Ann's friend's account that Sue Ann was on the phone with the friend, waiting at the husband's house for him to arrive.
Did you see the picture of the parking space where Sue Ann's van was found? Although the parking lot as a whole is very busy, the van was at the far end of the parking lot, well away from where most cars parked. It was backed in, as we know, and there was a metal guardrail behind it. Beyond that is a wooded area, no road or sidewalk, thus no chance for anyone to notice any activity taking place in or behind the van.

I'm sure the area around WalMart has been searched thoroughly, but it still seems possible that whoever took Sue Ann could have dumped her body nearby (assuming she is dead, which her father believes to be the case). Also, if a vehicle parked directly next to the van in that area of the parking lot, it seems possible that a body could be moved from the back of the van to the trunk of a car with little chance of being noticed.

Just a few speculations on my part. :twocents:

[Jesstexas]

Marilyn - I live in the area, so I know exactly where that parking spot is and you are right - there is a guardrail and woods/brush behind it. On a Saturday afternoon, that parking lot is usually nearly FULL - even the spaces way out there will oftentimes have cars parked in them.

I think her estranged husband buried her out on his parents' land in Jasper and then drove the van to the Walmart parking lot - knowing that it would probably be several days until anyone noticed it sitting there. I think he had a relative either follow him or come and pick him up.

I haven't read anything suggesting that the van was not in good working order when it was found, so I think it's safe to assume it didn't break down on her on her way home. And how else would she have been in any position to come into contact with some random sicko? If she had gone back to the Walmart that evening (even though she had plans to meet someone about cheerleading for her daughter), she wouldn't have parked that far away from the store and she wouldn't have backed her vehicle in the parking spot. I don't believe for one second that she was abducted or that she just decided to take off.

I wonder if the keys were in the van, or if Sue Ann's purse has been found.

[Gozgals]

Marilyn - I live in the area, so I know exactly where that parking spot is and you are right - there is a guardrail and woods/brush behind it. On a Saturday afternoon, that parking lot is usually nearly FULL - even the spaces way out there will oftentimes have cars parked in them.

I think her estranged husband buried her out on his parents' land in Jasper and then drove the van to the Walmart parking lot - knowing that it would probably be several days until anyone noticed it sitting there. I think he had a relative either follow him or come and pick him up.
Jess, I too lived in the surrounding area years back and agree with you. The area there is pretty much isolated-- in case those here are not aware of that fact. I do not know how to do map points myself or I would post this information on the board. (I am not aware if this addition is on Sue's site) Still much open land to bury said bodies in the woods, etc.

Her estranged husband seems to be the likely predator, but as mentioned had to have help if he indeed took Sue. The distance is too far to run, walk and if he took a cab, (as no mass transportation is in that area) it would be traced. It would have to be a family member as you stated, or a friend that would risk involvement.

My hinky meter is high on the family as suspect because they will not let LE have access to search their property. I, and those I know feel that if they wanted to get any suspicion off themselves they would certainly allow a search. This is telling. It reminds me of the Halloway case. If one has nothing to hide, why not let authorities clear you of any wrongdoing?

I am heartbroken when I see Sue's father on TV giving interviews on the story. If her estranged husband did this, especially on the anniversary of her cousin's disappearance, I hope he is prosecuted to the fullest extent. This is too much for one family to endure.

Prayers for Sue and Heather.

Gozgals

[Marilynilpa]

Marilyn - I live in the area, so I know exactly where that parking spot is and you are right - there is a guardrail and woods/brush behind it. On a Saturday afternoon, that parking lot is usually nearly FULL - even the spaces way out there will oftentimes have cars parked in them.

I think her estranged husband buried her out on his parents' land in Jasper and then drove the van to the Walmart parking lot - knowing that it would probably be several days until anyone noticed it sitting there. I think he had a relative either follow him or come and pick him up.

I haven't read anything suggesting that the van was not in good working order when it was found, so I think it's safe to assume it didn't break down on her on her way home. And how else would she have been in any position to come into contact with some random sicko? If she had gone back to the Walmart that evening (even though she had plans to meet someone about cheerleading for her daughter), she wouldn't have parked that far away from the store and she wouldn't have backed her vehicle in the parking spot. I don't believe for one second that she was abducted or that she just decided to take off.

I wonder if the keys were in the van, or if Sue Ann's purse has been found.
Thanks for your information about the parking lot - Nancy Grace reported that the van was in a section of the parking lot that was not often used, which is why I wondered if a body could have been transferred at that location into another car.

I agree that Sue Ann's body is probably buried at her in-laws' property. But I was wondering if the murder might not have taken place in her van - it was reportedly very clean, unlike it's usual messy condition. Made me wonder if some type of clean-up had taken place. That led me to wonder if her husband killed her while she was sitting in the van, moved her body to the back of the van, cleaned the van, then called one of his parents and had them meet him at the WalMart parking lot, where her body was transferred into their vehicle and taken to their property.

But if the parking lot is as busy as you say, then this couldn't have happened, since anyone driving by would have seen them.

It certainly is coincidental that this happened ten years after her cousin disappeared, but obviously there is no connection between the two events. Just a weird coincidence, that poor family.

[Gozgals]

Just wondering if he Killed her at his house, (knocked her down, something not to leave much forensics), drove in the van to the parents home, buried her, and wiped it clean and then they took him home?

Just some thoughts..

[SewingDeb]

Just wondering if he Killed her at his house, (knocked her down, something not to leave much forensics), drove in the van to the parents home, buried her, and wiped it clean and then they took him home?

Just some thoughts..

That sounds very possible. Does he live with his parents? For some reason I am thinking that he does, but I could be wrong.

[Jesstexas]

From the reports I've read, he does not live with his parents. Sue Ann apparently didn't want her daughter spending any time at the paternal grandparents home (hmmm, wonder why?). When Sue Ann arrived at the husband's home, he had just taken their daughter to his parents' home and left her there (which would have really upset Sue Ann, from what I gather). I'm beginning to wonder if whatever violence happened to Sue Ann happened at the the husband's parents' home.

[SewingDeb]

From the reports I've read, he does not live with his parents. Sue Ann apparently didn't want her daughter spending any time at the paternal grandparents home (hmmm, wonder why?). When Sue Ann arrived at the husband's home, he had just taken their daughter to his parents' home and left her there (which would have really upset Sue Ann, from what I gather). I'm beginning to wonder if whatever violence happened to Sue Ann happened at the the husband's parents' home.

Thanks. That is odd that Sue Ann didn't want her daughter around the in-laws. That really makes you wonder what kind of people they are.

Your theory sounds very possible and would explain why they won't allow a search (which just makes them look guilty, imo).

[Gozgals]

SewingDeb & Jess:

I have been doing reading at Sue Ann's site, and came upon the original post of the disappearance. It cannot be copied in. It appears the estranged husband Quinton had a separate home. Here is the link:
http://www.findsueann.org/TheDisappearanceofSueAnn.html

This does not note any clean up of the van, but most of us have heard that it has been done. Also, since Quinton's profession was that of a mechanic, it has been stated in the Media he had his own shop. I have no information where that is located. I mention this as when one has their vehicle worked on-it is standard to clean the said vehicle after the work has been COMPLETED.
Note: Convenient for the estranged to state "cleaning would be done after getting grease or other chemicals in vehicle!" Just a thought and not a pretty one.
I notice a post on Sue Ann's site that they are pleading with said estranged Quinton to help with the investigation and to consider their child together.
They would like him to take a LIE DETECTOR TEST. Hum, guess he has not yet.
Link: http://www.findsueann.org/MessageToQuintonRay.html

I too have heard she did not want her child over to see the in-laws. That must mean there have been noted problems in this relationship for years. This brings us closer to possibly believing that the in-laws are involved.

Bring home Sue Ann

Keep me posted too.

Gozgals

[birdie]

When the Father and Sister were on Nancy Grace, I got the impression that the mechanic shop was on the property where the estranged husband lived. Possibly in the garage of the home.

[gatetrekker44]

with the disappearance of Jennifer and Adrianna Wix-since the last person to admittedly see them alive was the boyfriend, LE has repeatedly asked to search-and a few searches were actually scheduled-then the family called them off at the last possible minute with no explanation!

Evidently, unless LE can convince a judge there's a compelling reason to search a property, without a search warrant LE can only ask permission-which, of course, the landowners have a legal right to refuse!


Bring Jennifer, Adrianna, and Maura home!

[reb]

the husband looks creepy, to me,, especially the way he's not really smiling in the photo, and has his hands on her shoulders all stiff like he's holding her down or something.... just seems kinda weird to me.

[Jesstexas]

Last night on Greta Van Sustern's show, she showed a clip of a Fox News reporter interviewing Quinton Ray (he refused to be filmed, but you could see the reporter as she asked questions and you could hear his responses). He claims that he IS looking for Sue Ann (he said he has his people out searching for her, whoever "his people" are) and he has copies of letters that Sue Ann wrote in which she appears to be suicidal. Sue Ann's parents were shown copies of the letters and they say that yes, they are written in Sue Ann's handwriting, but that they are NOT recent letters. Her parents say that because of the volatility of the relationship, Sue Ann had been depressed in the past, but that the letters are completely irrelevant to her disappearance.

Quinton Ray told the reporter that there is lots of stuff about Sue Ann that hasn't come out (I guess trying to make the public think what? - She was a horrible mother, she was loose, she was into drugs, blah, blah, blah).

He said he has seen his daughter twice since Sue Ann disappeared and that DFACS (Georgia's Department of Family & Children Services) is a joke (I guess they've become involved - as well they should be).

[Marilynilpa]

Last night on Greta Van Sustern's show, she showed a clip of a Fox News reporter interviewing Quinton Ray (he refused to be filmed, but you could see the reporter as she asked questions and you could hear his responses). He claims that he IS looking for Sue Ann (he said he has his people out searching for her, whoever "his people" are) and he has copies of letters that Sue Ann wrote in which she appears to be suicidal. Sue Ann's parents were shown copies of the letters and they say that yes, they are written in Sue Ann's handwriting, but that they are NOT recent letters. Her parents say that because of the volatility of the relationship, Sue Ann had been depressed in the past, but that the letters are completely irrelevant to her disappearance.

Quinton Ray told the reporter that there is lots of stuff about Sue Ann that hasn't come out (I guess trying to make the public think what? - She was a horrible mother, she was loose, she was into drugs, blah, blah, blah).

He said he has seen his daughter twice since Sue Ann disappeared and that DFACS (Georgia's Department of Family & Children Services) is a joke (I guess they've become involved - as well they should be).
Sounds like he has some animosity towards Children Services!

I'm sure he would like to make everyone think Sue Ann committed suicide, that would get the spotlight off of him for a while. I don't think this young woman would have ended her life, leaving her child behind, most likely to be raised by her soon-to-be ex-husband and his family!

[dancingdaisy]

Maybe he brought up the letters so if when they find her she's dead, then they'll think she committed suicide and not look at him or his family as suspects :confused:

[scandi]

Hi, They just discussed her on CC, but of course I was working so didn't pay full attention.

She's still missing, the person Catherine talked to said he thinks the police have information on her but are holding it very close to the vest.

Scandi

[Jesstexas]

Sue Ann's father raised a fantastic point on Geraldo Rivera's show last night - if she committed suicide, where is her body?? It's not exactly possible to kill yourself and then hide your own body.

From the sound of him, her estranged husband is too stupid to be able to pull this off and get away with it. Rumors are FLYING out here (I live in the area) and I highly doubt it will be long before law enforcement will be coming to call on him.

[fran]

I haven't been able to see all of the programs covering this case but I've been aware of this young woman's disappearance since it first happened.

I thought that she was at work when she found out her soon-to-be ex had picked their daughter up at day care and taken her to his parents, which he'd never done before, and that SueAnne was really upset and left work early. I could be wrong.

Are there cameras covering the parking lot at Walmart? Do we know for sure? Does the husband know? That question could be why he parked so far away from the store. He probably thought there were cameras, or didn't know IF, and parked where he thought he wouldn't be seen(somone said that was basically an unused part of the lot?). Also, since one person had to drive the van, someone else needed to follow or come and get him. Which, IMO, is why the parents won't let them search their property. IMO, it's probably them that are the accomplice. HE COULDN'T HAVE DONE THE WHOLE THING BY HIMSELF! Not when there's two vehicles involved, IMO.

It's quite possible that SueAnne went to his home/shop, confronted him and they had an argument. She told him she was going to stop by Walmart and pick up her daughter at his parent's. That would account for the flurry of phone calls between the husband and his family, just around the time she was supposed to be at his place. She then stopped by Walmart (which accounts for the Walmart bags), proceeded to the parent's home, the husband was there waiting for her and killed her right there. Then he took her car to the Walmart, followed by a family member, and they thought LE would think she'd been abducted at the time she'd been shopping. :(

This is just a scenario that is possible, IMHO.

THEY NEED TO GET A WARRANT TO SEARCH THE PARENT'S HOME AND TO SEARCH THE PROPERTY WITH A CADAVAR DOG!!!!!!! :mad:

JMHO
fran

[Jesstexas]

By DON PLUMMER (dplummer@ajc.com)
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 11/26/05
Since Sueann Ray vanished Aug. 26, the mystery surrounding the Woodstock mother's fate has only deepened.

No arrests have been made, despite a more than $100,000 reward to entice tipsters. And the police have stopped talking.

A month ago, Woodstock police stopped commenting on the case except to say that any information or evidence they receive goes straight to the Georgia Bureau of Investigation. Any tips from the public should be phoned to the GBI tip line, said Woodstock detective Sgt. Dan King, who had been leading the investigation.

GBI spokesman John Bankhead said his agency is investigating the case, which spans several jurisdictions, but he offered few specifics. GBI Agent John Cagle, who Bankhead said is leading the investigation, refused to discuss the case.

"There's been too much talk about this case already, so I'm not going to comment at all," Cagle said during a brief telephone interview.

Back when King was talking, he said one thing publicly about Ray's estranged husband, and another thing to a fellow officer. Neither Woodstock Assistant Police Chief Jim Free nor King would discuss why King told another officer that Ray's estranged husband is a suspect "in her suspicious death."

Despite King's remarks, police still haven't publicly named any suspects nor is there any evidence that Sueann Ray is dead.

About the time that Woodstock police distanced themselves from the investigation, Ray's family hired its own private investigator, citing frustration with the lack of police progress. Former Cherokee County Sheriff John Seay, hired Oct. 24, said he is making progress three months after Sueann Ray disappeared.

Ray was last seen by her estranged husband when he said she stopped by his Pickens County home on Aug. 26. Quinton Ray said his wife left from there to pick up their daughter from his parents' home in nearby Ball Ground. He said his wife, from whom he had been separated for seven months, was then bound for Augusta to visit with her father for the weekend.

Sueann Ray's minivan was found three days later in a Canton Wal-Mart parking lot.

. . . .

Jenkins said he has asked Seay to look at every possible suspect.

Some evidence in the case may not be available to Seay. That includes evidence seized during a police search of Quinton Ray's home and auto repair shop. The results of that search were sealed by a judge.

For his part, Quinton Ray said he wants Sueann to be found alive. Quinton Ray's attorney, David Cannon, said Ray is fully cooperating with police.

When Sueann did not arrive as expected in Augusta that weekend, Jenkins said he began calling her cell phone, but he only got voice mail.

Jenkins heart nearly stopped on Monday, Aug. 29, when another daughter called to say Sueann's boss had told her Sueann hadn't come to work.

"It is the sinkingist feeling I've ever had," Jenkins recalls. "She was super responsible and never missed work."

About 11 p.m. that Monday, Sueann Ray's maroon 1998 Ford Windstar was found — backed into a space on the far side of the Wal-Mart parking lot on Riverstone Parkway in Canton. There was no sign of a struggle inside the vehicle, King said.

The video from the lot's surveillance camera was taken by police, but they will not say what it showed. A couple of things were odd things about the vehicle, however, Ray's sister said.

"Well, for one thing it was clean, not trashy inside, and that was unlike my sister," Sandy Chasm said. The other sign of foul play, she said, is that Ray never backed into a parking space. "She couldn't even back up a bicycle," Chasm said.

Four weeks later, Quinton Ray was identified as a suspect in a police report about a related incident obtained by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

On Sept. 25, Emerson police Lt. Kevin McBurnett diffused a situation between Ray and another man at an area bar. McBurnett wrote in his report of the incident that while speaking with King that evening, the Woodstock detective said Ray had been arrested for threatening the other man, who King said had been having an affair with Sueann Ray.

That's when, according to McBurnett, King called Quinton Ray "a suspect in his wife's suspicious death."

Earlier this month Jenkins confronted Quinton Ray during a bankruptcy hearing for Ray. Jenkins approached his son-in-law and asked him to take a polygraph test. Ray did not respond at the time, but Jenkins said Ray, through a representative, since has said he will take a GBI-administered polygraph test.

[SewingDeb]

Any updates?

[Bobbisangel]

Any updates?


Sue Ann's dad said that he has even offered to pay for the lie detector test and Ray keeps saying he will take one but he never gets beyond that.

The dogs followed Sue Ann's scent right up to Ray's parents property. Last I heard they won't allow their property to be searched. LE did say recently that they had searched the husband's property and his parents without search warrents but they didn't mention the parents property where someone could bury a body. I want to know if LE has taken dogs onto that property and searched it. I really believe that is where Sue Ann is. I think that is where the husband kept Sue Ann's vehicle until he dumped it at Walmart.

[Jesstexas]

Missing woman's 6-year-old subject of custody fight

By BY DON PLUMMER (dplummer@ajc.com)
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
Published on: 12/22/05 The daughter of a Woodstock woman missing nearly four months is at the center of a custody battle between her father and her mother's family.

A Pickens County judge on Wednesday set a hearing for Jan. 13 on the question of where 6-year-old Charity Ray will live. Until then the Woodstock elementary school student will continue living with her godparents, where she has been since her mother, Sueann Ray, disappeared Aug. 26.

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Sueann Ray poses for a family portrait with husband Quinton Ray and their daughter, Charity. SueAnn Ray was last seen Aug. 26, and her abandoned vehicle was found three days later. Charity is now 6 years old.


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After a two-hour closed hearing on a request by Charity's father, Quinton Ray, to regain custody of his daughter, Juvenile Court Judge John Worcester–Holland issued a gag order preventing Ray or his wife's family from discussing the case.

"They've told me I can't talk about the case, but I will say today was a victory," Danny Jenkins, Sueann's father, said as he left the courthouse in Jasper. "We have a way to go before Charity will be with us, but we won't be giving up."

Quinton Ray declined to comment on the custody battle or on the search for his estranged wife.

[Jesstexas]

The full article and picture are here: http://www.ledgernews.com/top%20stories.html. (Also, Nancy Grace will talk about Sue Ann this Friday, January 27th, on her show.)

Investigation yields no sign of missing woman
By Erika B. Neldner
erikaneldner@ledgernews.com (erikaneldner@ledgernews.com)

It’s been almost five months since Sue Ann Ray went missing and there have been no signs of the Woodstock woman since.

The Woodstock Police Department asked the Georgia Bureau of Investigation (GBI) to help investigate in September of last year. The GBI continues to search for the single mother.

“We are working it every day—following leads everyday,” said John Cagle, special agent in charge of the GBI’s Region 8 Field Division. “We’re still staying focused on it.”



SNIP

Quinton Ray, Ray’s estranged husband, said he doesn’t want to be involved in the case and has nothing to do with it.

“I’m not involved,” Quinton Ray said. “I ain’t got nothing to add to this story.”

SNIP

While the GBI continues to investigate the case, Chasm and her husband Jason, as well as Quinton Ray are trying to get custody of Quinton and Sue Ann’s 6-year-old child.

The child is in the custody of one of Sue Ann’s friends who has been approved by the Department of Family and Children’s Services.

[bykerladi]

Here's a question: If someone just happened to tresspass on his family's property, and they just happen to find something, can the police use that information to get a warrant?

[Jesstexas]

I don't know how that would work legally bykerladi. The problem with anyone doing that in the first place though, is that his family (from what I've heard - I don't know any of them personally) is one scarey bunch. Like, if someone did try & sneak onto their property, they might just be risking their OWN life kinda scarey.

[LovelyPigeon]

The dogs followed Sue Ann's scent right up to Ray's parents property.

Where did the dogs first pick up the scent?

[LovelyPigeon]

I found my answer in Nancy Grace transcripts where Sueann's father says one of 9 dog teams followed a live scent from Quinton's residence to the driveway of the in-law's residence. A private investigator, OTOH, states that it's not possible the dogs followed a scent 8 miles. One of several transcripts at: http://archives.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0511/23/ng.01.html

I also read on another board that the in-laws residence and property has been searched as of December and nothing found.

[petra]

Sue Ann's remains were found this morning. Her ex husband has been arrested.



http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cherokee/stories/0208bodyfound.html

[petra]

today at 13.00 EST....1.00 Eastern time

[mom3dd]

link to news report http://www.11alive.com/help/search/search_article.aspx?storyid=75813 snip The estranged husband of a woman murdered in Jasper, Ga., and whose body turned up in northern Cherokee County, is charged with her death, police said.

Cherokee police told 11Alive’s Kevin Rowson they believe Quinton Ray killed his wife, Sue Ann, in Pickens County. Authorities have not confirmed how they know that, but are likely to release more details regarding their investigation at a news conference.

[LovelyPigeon]

I think it was petra on another thread that stated Quinton Ray's family residence address is Cherokee Gold Trail.

Checking the online phone directories, there is a person last name Ray who lives on Cherokee Gold Trail in Ballground, GA, which is in northern Cherokee County which is where Sueann's body was found.

[bykerladi]

What happened at the press conference? Did the police reveal any more information?

[petra]

What happened at the press conference? Did the police reveal any more information?
http://www.findsueann.org/CaseUpdates.html

[Michelle Read]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2042152,00.html
Petra, your linked article is about Neil Entwistle. :waitasec:

Tough to keep up with them all anymore. :D

[petra]

Thanks michelle... how embarrasing:blushing:

contains recent news updates and plans for funeral services

http://www.findsueann.org/CaseUpdates.html

[Becba]

So the body was not on the property after all. I am so glad she has been found.

[petra]

http://www.11alive.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=76410

father in law indicted

[petra]

http://www.findsueann.org/CaseUpdates.html

pictures of burial site..updated info

48 HRS there to do story.

[beachcares2]

Speaking of GA, what about a case about a year ago. I only saw it once on Greta's show that I recall...maybe twice. I think she worked at a beauty parlor and came up missing. I can't remember much but does it ring a bell with anyone so maybe there is a thread here since I don't have a name?

They may have found her but I don't recall ever hearing.

Thanks for info!

[Jesstexas]

I think you're thinking of Patrice Endres. She was abducted from the beauty shop she owned. Her body was eventually found behind a church. Convicted serial killer Jeffrey Jones supposedly confessed to Patrice's murder and then later took his confession back.

[mom3dd]

This irks me Why wouldn't he get life and why wouldn't he get death penalty. I guess it is ok to kill someone if your willing to do the time.

The husband of a Woodstock woman found dead last year pleaded guilty to her murder Tuesday.

Quinton Ray, 28, of Jasper, will serve two consecutive life sentences in the murder and kidnapping of his wife, Sueann Ray. He will eligible for parole in 20 years.

In addition, Ray's father, Harold Danny Ray, pleaded guilty to hindering the apprehension of a felon. Charges of concealing his daughter-in-law's death and tampering with evidence were dismissed as part of the settlement.



http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/cherokee/stories/2007/05/22/0522ray.html

[Bobbisangel]

The husband of a Woodstock woman found dead last year pleaded guilty to her murder Tuesday.

Quinton Ray, 28, of Jasper, will serve two consecutive life sentences in the murder and kidnapping of his wife, Sueann Ray. He will eligible for parole in 20 years.

In addition, Ray's father, Harold Danny Ray, pleaded guilty to hindering the apprehension of a felon. Charges of concealing his daughter-in-law's death and tampering with evidence were dismissed as part of the settlement.



I hope in 20 years some of SueAnn's family are still around and will attend those parole hearings. Boy, I would be at everyone of them and beg those officials not to let him out. So how the heck long is a life sentence there...10 years? He doesn't get to serve both sentences at the same time so I am assuming that it is 10 yrs each. Twenty years is not near enough for murding the mother of your child and for murdering your ex just because she didn't want to be married to you anymore or whatever his reasoning was...control freak.

Why did they dismiss those charges on the dad. He did all of those things so he should have to serve time for doing them....DAM the Pros...Defense attorney and the Judge that agreed.

[georgiagirl]

Murder suspect pleads guilty
Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:07 AM EDT
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By Ashley Fuller

Cherokee Tribune Staff Writer

The trial for the murder of Sueann Ray of Woodstock has ended with guilty pleas from her estranged husband and father-in-law.

Quinton Ray, 28, of Jasper pled guilty Tuesday to malice murder and kidnapping for strangling his wife to death in August 2005, which he claimed he had to do because she "wanted his money."

He could have faced the death penalty if found guilty at trial, but instead was sentenced to two consecutive life terms by Pickens County Superior Court Judge Brenda Weaver. He will be eligible for parole in 20 years.

Ray's father, Harold Daniel Ray, accused of helping cover up the murder, also pleaded guilty Tuesday. He was sentenced on the charge of hindering the apprehension of a criminal to five years probation and 132 hours of community service.

Sandy Chasm, Sueann's sister, said it was not the outcome the family wanted, but is glad Quinton Ray will be in prison, likely for the rest of his life.

"It is not the justice we wanted, but it is justice," she said.

When given the opportunity to speak in court Tuesday, Ray, who was wearing a prison uniform and showed no emotion, said nothing.

Family members of both the victim and defendants filled several rows in the courtroom, but remained quiet during the hearing and also declined the opportunity to speak as part of the proceedings.

Ms. Ray, 26, was reported missing by her family in August 2005, a few days after she went to Quinton Ray's home in Jasper. He said the visit was so he could repair her minivan, but Ms. Ray's family said it was due to a custody dispute over their daughter.

Her minivan was found abandoned in the Wal-Mart Supercenter parking lot in Canton on Aug. 29, 2005, hours after she was reported missing. GBI agents discovered Ms. Ray's body in February 2006 in a shallow grave in northern Cherokee County, near the home of Quinton Ray's parents. An hour after her body was found, Quinton Ray was arrested and charged with her murder.

He was indicted by a grand jury last year on charges of malice and felony murder, kidnapping, concealing the death of another and tampering with evidence.

Harold Danny Ray also was arrested in February 2006 on charges of concealing the death of another, hindering the apprehension of a criminal and tampering with evidence.

During Tuesday's hearing, Pickens County District Attorney Joe Hendricks read the transcript of a February 2006 conversation Quinton Ray had with two acquaintances, who were working as GBI informants.

During the conservation on their way back from Cowboys in Kennesaw, Ray told the informants he had been planning the crime for months because Ms. Ray was having and affair with another man, Jeff Wilson.

Quinton Ray said he dug the grave for his estranged wife and spent the next five months exercising so he would be strong enough to carry her to it.

When Ms. Ray came to his house that August night, he grabbed her by the throat and choked her to death. It took 90 seconds to killer her, Quinton Ray said during the conversation. An autopsy report determined she died from asphyxiation.

After Quinton Ray killed his estranged wife and drove her minivan to the Wal-Mart, Harold Danny Ray picked his son up from the store.

Ray told the informants he also wanted to kill Wilson and Ms. Ray's father, Danny Jenkins.

http://www.cherokeetribune.com/articles/2007/05/23/306/10259541.txt

[georgiagirl]

[quote=georgiagirl;1504852]Quinton Ray said he dug the grave for his estranged wife and spent the next five months exercising so he would be strong enough to carry her to it.[quote=georgiagirl;1504852]
:furious: Life in prison is too good for this POS!!! And only 5 years probation for Harold Danny Ray for helping his son kill his wife, the mother of his grandchild?!! Outrageous!!! He should not be allowed to breathe the same air as the rest of us!! I work in the Wal-Mart Shopping center where her van was found and everyday when I look out my office window I see the cross in her memory......

[concernedperson]

[quote=georgiagirl;1504852]Quinton Ray said he dug the grave for his estranged wife and spent the next five months exercising so he would be strong enough to carry her to it.[quote=georgiagirl;1504852]
:furious: Life in prison is too good for this POS!!! And only 5 years probation for Harold Danny Ray for helping his son kill his wife, the mother of his grandchild?!! Outrageous!!! He should not be allowed to breathe the same air as the rest of us!! I work in the Wal-Mart Shopping center where her van was found and everyday when I look out my office window I see the cross in her memory......

I agree georgiagirl. This was more than premeditated it was conspiratorial and involved more than one person. I know they (prosecutors) wanted detail but the Ray's wanted Wilson and SueAnn's dad gone too. How long would that have taken to accomplish if they we allowed to be free? I think Cherokee County was lazy in this case.

[georgiagirl]

[quote=georgiagirl;1504854][quote=georgiagirl;1504852]Quinton Ray said he dug the grave for his estranged wife and spent the next five months exercising so he would be strong enough to carry her to it.

I agree georgiagirl. This was more than premeditated it was conspiratorial and involved more than one person. I know they (prosecutors) wanted detail but the Ray's wanted Wilson and SueAnn's dad gone too. How long would that have taken to accomplish if they we allowed to be free? I think Cherokee County was lazy in this case.


I agree about CC being lazy! How heart wrenching to know that little Charity will grow up knowing her daddy and grandpa did this to her mother......Earthly justice just isn't enough.

[michelle]

Quinton Ray said he dug the grave for his estranged wife and spent the next five months exercising so he would be strong enough to carry her to it.

Gee, I guess he gave this long and hard planning. He will get his, one day these "people" will stand before GOD and get theirs.