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fourboys
10-14-2005, 05:19 PM
Portland Police Search For Missing Woman

Posted: October 14, 2005

Police in Portland are asking for your help in finding 24-year-old Lynn Moran. She was last seen on Monday night, in Portland's old port.

Police say Lynn Moran was in Maine visiting friends and family. She grew up in the Portland area, but was living in Shrewsbury, Massachusetts.

Her family became worried on Tuesday, because she never showed up at her job Tuesday morning. Police believe Moran was last seen on Market Street in Portland's old port between 9:30 and 10:30 Monday night. They have been posting missing persons flyers in the area.

Moran is about five foot two and a hundred pounds. Friends who were with her earlier that night tell police they went home before she did. But she left her cell phone and purse at a friend's apartment.

Moran's friends and family say it would be completely out of character for her to just "take off" without telling anyone.

http://www.wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=27599

fourboys
10-15-2005, 08:40 AM
Police seek tips on missing woman:

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/051015missing.shtml

Last known movements of Lynn Moran monday night:

POLICE HAVE PIECED TOGETHER Lynn Moran's afternoon and evening in an effort to locate her:

2:30-3 p.m.: Moran leaves Norm's Bar and Grill on Congress Street for the Old Port.
LATE AFTERNOON-EARLY EVENING: Gritty McDuff's pub on Fore Street.
8:30 p.m.: Visits the Market Street apartment of an acquaintance.
9-10 p.m.: Seen walking along Market Street.
10-10:30 p.m.: Bull Moose Music, then Middle Street.

Bobbisangel
10-16-2005, 12:23 AM
Police seek tips on missing woman:

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/051015missing.shtml

Last known movements of Lynn Moran monday night:

POLICE HAVE PIECED TOGETHER Lynn Moran's afternoon and evening in an effort to locate her:

2:30-3 p.m.: Moran leaves Norm's Bar and Grill on Congress Street for the Old Port.
LATE AFTERNOON-EARLY EVENING: Gritty McDuff's pub on Fore Street.
8:30 p.m.: Visits the Market Street apartment of an acquaintance.
9-10 p.m.: Seen walking along Market Street.
10-10:30 p.m.: Bull Moose Music, then Middle Street.


Why would she leave her cell phone and purse at the home of an acquaintance? I wonder if she was actually seen after 8:30 pm by people who knew her or if someone thought they saw her after the flyers were put up? That can be a big difference.

fourboys
10-17-2005, 10:30 AM
Police, Family And Friends Still Searching For Missing Woman

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Lynn Moran has now been missing for one week. She was last seen in the Old Port section of Portland last Monday.

Her friends and family members spent the weekend putting up flyers. They're hoping someone will recognize her picture and come forward with new information.

People who know her say she would never just take off on her own. They're holding out hope that she's okay and that they'll find her.

"We definitely still have hope that Lynn is out there," her brother John said. "We believe she is out there. We've just done everything we can to get in touch with any of her friends who may have heard from her."

Lynn's sister Elizabeth asks: "If you were out Monday night, if you say anything that was relevant, certainly give the Portland Police a call. We're just trying to find information. We're gathering information because we can't find her. It's scary. Really, really scary."

http://www.wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=27626

PrayersForMaura
10-17-2005, 01:26 PM
Media Links

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ABC Affiliate: http://www.wmtw.com/index.html

PrayersForMaura
10-17-2005, 01:35 PM
Search For Missing Woman Continues
http://www.wmtw.com/news/5106697/detail.html

POSTED: 11:02 am EDT October 17, 2005

UPDATED: 11:13 am EDT October 17, 2005

PORTLAND, Maine -- Portland police said they plan to ask residents of a South Portland neighborhood if they know the whereabouts of a missing Massachusetts woman.

Lynn Moran, 24, of Shrewsbury, disappeared from Portlandís Old Port a week ago.

Police said someone has told them that they might have seen her in the area of Anthoine Street in South Portland late Monday night.

They said the Moran was seen walking on Market Street in the Old Port earlier that night.

Moran was last seen wearing blue jeans, a menís shirt held together with one button and no shoes.

Witnesses said she appeared to be extremely intoxicated.

PrayersForMaura
10-17-2005, 01:40 PM
:(

Moran had spent the evening in Portland's downtown, lunching with a friend at Norm's Bar and Grill on Congress Street, then visiting Gritty McDuff's pub on Fore Street. She separated from her friends and, later in the evening, visited the Market Street apartment of an acquaintance, where she left her purse and cell phone, police said.

She was seen between 9 p.m. and 10 p.m. walking on Market Street. She was wearing blue jeans, a man's light plaid long-sleeve shirt and no shoes. Witnesses said she appeared extremely intoxicated, which could have made her vulnerable to foul play, police said.

Workers at Bull Moose Music say she stopped in the Middle Street music store between 10 p.m. and 10:30 p.m. She was visibly intoxicated and at times belligerent, said Mandy Wheeler, but the store frequently gets customers coming in from nearby bars.

"I didn't think anything of it," she said, [ :rolleyes: ] though she said Moran was noticeable because her shirt was closed by a single button, she was barefoot and looked unkempt. :doh: She said a man was offering to help her but she thinks Moran walked away from him.

Moran works in Massachusetts in the field of social work. However, she is from Portland and was visiting her parents, who live in Windham, and her siblings over the Columbus Day weekend. She has six brothers and sisters and is in contact with them on a regular basis, Malloch said.

As a high school freshman, Moran was one of the original students to enroll at the Maine State Academy for the Performing Arts, studying both there and at Portland High School.

In 1999, she received a scholarship from the Portland School of Ballet's CORPS Program, and she was a guest artist with Ram Island Dance's production of "Twisted Rules" in 2001.

Maine's largest city averages between 180 and 200 missing-person cases annually. Most involve individuals fleeing unhappy homes or those with a history of running away, neither of which applies to Moran.

Anyone with information about Moran's movements or whereabouts is urged to call Detective Rick Beaumont at 874-8524.

taken (http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/051015missing.shtml) from the story fourboys posted...

PrayersForMaura
10-18-2005, 01:35 PM
Search For Lynn Moran Moves To South Portland

The Coast Guard, State Game Wardens and South Portland police have joined Portland police in the search for the 24 year-old woman who has been missing for a week.

http://wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=27656

PrayersForMaura
10-18-2005, 01:37 PM
Search For Missing Woman Moves To South Portland
UPDATED: 12:31 pm EDT October 18, 2005

PORTLAND, Maine -- Maine game wardens are joining police departments in southern Maine as the search for Lynn Moran intensifies.


Moran, 24, of Shrewsbury, Mass., was visiting family and friends in Portland before she disappeared a week ago. She was reported missing when she didn't show up to work last Tuesday morning.


Wardens are meeting with Portland and South Portland police officers to coordinate their search for Moran. Wardens plan to use dogs and search in wooded areas. Wardens circled the South Portland area in a float plane during Monday's search.


Police believe Morin was last seen in South Portland late the night of Oct. 10. They said they received a credible lead Monday that placed her in the vicinty of Broadway and Anthoine Street at about 11 p.m. that night.


More: http://www.wmtw.com/news/5106697/detail.html

PrayersForMaura
10-18-2005, 01:42 PM
Search moves beyond Portland
Tuesday, October 18, 2005


Excerpts:

Moran was seen around 10:30 p.m. at Middle and Market streets in Portland, police said. She was seen in South Portland not long afterward.
"We're not aware of anyone she would have been visiting in that area," her brother said.

Family members are fearful because Moran has never stayed out of contact with her friends and family for so long. She also has not shown up for work, a job to which she is extremely dedicated and which shows her compassion, her brother said.

"So many times, I would call and I would talk to her late at night, she would still be taking a child to the emergency room," John Moran said. "She put everything she had into caring for those kids. I think she is just a very special person in that way, how much she can give."

Moran said it is difficult to maintain hope and still prepare for the possibility that something terrible has happened.

"It's just incredibly hard, because on the one hand you want to prepare yourself for the worst - you feel you have to prepare for the worst. But you do still hope. You just can't accept that something has happened."

Police found the car she was planning to drive back to Massachusetts where she had left it, near Congress Street.

Police say they have interviewed a man who tried to help her late that night, as well as several other people who interacted with her.


More: http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/051018missing.shtml

ScorpioGal
10-18-2005, 05:27 PM
Lynne Moran, 24 of Massachusetts missing in Maine



http://news.mainetoday.com/apwire/D8DAJNO83-290.shtml

http://news.mainetoday.com/midday/index.html#4

mysteriew
10-18-2005, 09:21 PM
John Moran said the family doesn't know where she might have been going in South Portland.

"We're not aware of anyone she would have been visiting in that area," he said.

Moran, who grew up in Portland, went to lunch with friends on the afternoon of Oct. 10, then visited a bar in the Old Port. Later, she visited an acquaintance in an apartment on Market Street, where she left her purse and cell phone. She was intoxicated when she was later seen wearing a man's plaid shirt and no shoes, police said.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/maine/articles/2005/10/18/100_volunteers_fan_out_in_search_of_missing_mass_w oman/

fourboys
10-21-2005, 04:29 PM
It has been nearly two weeks since Lynn Moran was last seen, after a night of partying with friends in Portland's Old Port.

Police and game wardens searched an area of South Portland near the Casco Bay Bridge on Tuesday, after a woman reported seeing Moran in that area the night she disappeared. The search turned up nothing.

Moran's family is convinced that someone else must have information about her whereabouts, and they are now offering a $10,000 reward. "We've kind of hit dead ends. And we can't emphasize enough that we need to find her. We really believe that someone has to have seen her. People don't just disappear," Moran's sister Chris said at a press conference Friday.

Lynn Moran is 5'2", and weighs about 100 pounds. She was last seen Monday night, October 10. If you know anything that might help police solve this case, they would like to hear from you at (207) 874-8524.

http://www.wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=27820

mysteriew
10-24-2005, 10:07 PM
No one can find Lynn Moran.

Not the strangers that combed the waterfront weeds in Portland, Maine, near where the 24-year-old Shrewsbury woman disappeared two weeks ago. Not her family, which has offered a $10,000 reward to anyone with information about her whereabouts. Not her friends who spend their days tacking photos of the petite Moran in New England storefronts. Not the police in Portland, who suspect foul play and who have assigned nine detectives to the case.

Moran, the dedicated assistant director of two Massachusetts homes for foster children, was last seen on the cobblestone streets of Portland's Old Port district on the night of Oct. 10. Police say she appeared intoxicated, was barefoot, and wore a man's long-sleeved shirt. She may have been briefly spotted again in South Portland a half-hour later.

The case is reminiscent of the 2001 case of 25-year-old Amy St. Laurent, who disappeared after a night of dancing in Old Port. Laurent's body was discovered in a shallow grave, and an acquaintance was convicted of her murder.

''We're getting dozens of tips [for Moran]," said Portland Detective Karl Rybeck yesterday.

Moran is eccentric, philosophical, and has little patience for insincerity or shallowness, friends said. Sassy, with long, curly, dark hair, she is known for wearing high heels even in Maine winters, according to a friend.

With a ballerina's bearing, Moran ''always turns heads," said her sister Chris Moran, 26, of Holliston, who believes anyone who saw her the night she vanished would have remembered her.

Growing up with her five siblings in Windham, Maine, the 5-foot-2-inch, 100-pound Moran excelled early as a dancer, and won a scholarship to study ballet part time at the Maine State School for the Performing Arts in high school. She graduated from Portland High School and soon began working with children, first in Maine and more recently in Massachusetts.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2005/10/24/hope_love_fuel_familys_search/

ketel0ne
10-25-2005, 10:37 PM
Lynn's case is about to be on Greta's show on Foxnews between 10:30-11pm EDT.

mysteriew
10-27-2005, 04:32 PM
More than two weeks after Lynn Moran was last seen in Portland, Maine, her family and friends remain emotionally in the dark.

With no clues as to the 24-year-old Shrewsbury resident's whereabouts, they go through their daily routines in a daze, they say, not really believing she's gone but seeing traces of her everywhere.
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=112756&format=&page=2

Malloch says police have "interviewed several people who are friends and acquaintances of Lynn's that she had contact with that evening. The acquaintance Ö where she left her cell phone and purse, we have questioned him several times. He's been very cooperative. And he actually essentially alerted Ö the family that she may have gone missing when he contacted them to return her items."

The Boston Globe cites police in saying that Moran appeared to have been intoxicated when she was last spotted.

Moran's sister, Elizabeth, spoke with Lynn the morning of her disappearance and tells Chen, "Nothing seemed out of the ordinary to me."

Lynn's brother, John, tells Chen that Lynn is "a great person. She's smart and funny and incredibly dedicated to her job and to her family. She had a very close relationship with all of our siblings. Ö She's just the best sister that anyone could ask for and we miss her."

Lynn gave up dancing to work with foster children. She is assistant director of two shelters for such kids.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/26/earlyshow/main982117.shtml

The family of a Shrewsbury woman now missing for two weeks is offering a $10,000 reward for any information leading to her whereabouts.

The announcement shows hope remains with the Moran family, of Maine, even as Portland Police fear that Lynn, 24, may be the victim of foul play.

Lynn Moran, 24, was last seen Oct. 10 when she went out with three friends to a pub in the Old Port section of the city. She left the bar and went to a friend's nearby apartment, stopped in a music store and hasn't been seen since, police and family said.
http://www.townonline.com/shrewsbury/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=353428

Angels_Not_Forgotten
10-27-2005, 05:08 PM
this is so sad. Im praying for her safe return.

reb
10-27-2005, 05:22 PM
can't help but wonder if someone slipped her a roofie, then waited for her outside, til she got in a spot where no one could see, then got her into a car. of course, just alcohol alone could make people be in the state she was in.

mysteriew
10-28-2005, 08:25 PM
Hundreds of people filled a church in Windham Thursday night to offer prayers for Lynn Moran.

Moran, 24, is the Massachusetts woman who disappeared from Portlandís Old Port Oct. 10.

Family, friends and members of the community where Lynn grew up gathered Thursday to show support for Moranís family.

The family said that with each day, they get more frustrated.
http://www.wmtw.com/news/5195899/detail.html

mysteriew
10-30-2005, 04:30 PM
She could be anyone's sister, daughter, mother, best friend or girlfriend.

It starts as a night like any other; she has dinner with friends followed by a few drinks at the usual bar.

But then something un- usual happens. She doesn't make it home to watch late-night TV or doze off on the couch. She doesn't show up for work the next day.

This is the nightmare Lynn Moran's family and friends are dealing with since the 24- year-old's disappearance more than two weeks ago.
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/051030safety.shtml

KatherineQ
10-30-2005, 04:55 PM
This story has such an odd twist - she was with friends, and then went out with them for an evening, and then went to a man's house, and then somehow is wearing men's clothing staggering down the street barefoot in the still normal - "out partying" hours.

I've tried to follow the timeline. Was she wearing men's clothing when she was out with her friends, or when did she change into men's clothing and lose her shoes?

It sounds like the friend where she left her purse and cell phone - was that when she suddenly lost her shoes and put on a man's shirt?

CrimeHater
10-30-2005, 06:03 PM
KatherineQ I totally agree. Was it a male aquantince? Was she wearing his shirt and shoeless?? Thats really strange. From what I have read about her it sounds totally out of character.
And the article above says the police aren't focusing in on foul play just yet? What does it take? MOST people do not just disappear like that.

KatherineQ
10-30-2005, 06:12 PM
I've gone back and read all the articles I could find.

She was apparently at the "male acquaintance"'s house for 1/2 hour or less, and she left her shoes, purse and cell phone there. This would be REALLY incriminating, except she was seen by a number of people, shoeless, for at least two hours following her leaving his apartment.

She's captured on tape in one pub, early in the afternoon, but it doesn't indicate if she was wearing a man's shirt then, or if she was dressed in women's clothing at that time. Who knows where her original clothes are.

She's beautiful, and probably looked very helpless in the late night hours - seems like anyone could have preyed on her.

ketel0ne
10-30-2005, 11:02 PM
Dan Riehl from Riehl World View is now doing some writing for Crime Library, his first published article is on Lynn Moran's case

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/1005/3003_lynn_moran_vanishes_portland_me.html

fourboys
10-31-2005, 09:09 AM
Body Found In Harbor On Portland Waterfront

UPDATED: October 31, 2005

PORTLAND, Maine -- Portland police said a body has been found on the city's waterfront near the Maine State Pier, but there's no word yet on the identity.

Police are on the scene after the body was found Monday morning.

It was three weeks ago today that Lynn Moran, 24, disappeared after an evening in Portland's Old Port.

Moran was last seen on Oct. 10 after partying with friends. Moran grew up in Portland but has been living and working in Shrewsbury, Mass.

Searches have taken place in Portland and South Portland. Her family and friends have placed missing person posters throughout the region, and the family has posted a reward, as well.

http://www.wmtw.com/news/5212506/detail.html

ketel0ne
10-31-2005, 10:55 AM
Body Found In Harbor On Portland Waterfront

UPDATED: October 31, 2005

PORTLAND, Maine -- Portland police said a body has been found on the city's waterfront near the Maine State Pier, but there's no word yet on the identity.

Police are on the scene after the body was found Monday morning.

It was three weeks ago today that Lynn Moran, 24, disappeared after an evening in Portland's Old Port.

Moran was last seen on Oct. 10 after partying with friends. Moran grew up in Portland but has been living and working in Shrewsbury, Mass.

Searches have taken place in Portland and South Portland. Her family and friends have placed missing person posters throughout the region, and the family has posted a reward, as well.

http://www.wmtw.com/news/5212506/detail.html
Thanks for the update.

fourboys
10-31-2005, 12:12 PM
Portland police said a woman's body was found on the city's waterfront near the Maine State Pier, but there's no word yet on the identity.

Police arrived on the scene after the body was found at about 7:30 a.m.

Witnesses said a man who works on Long Island found the badly-decomposed body as he was waiting for a boat to take him to work.

Police are not releasing any details until the state medical examinerís office positively identifies the body. They said they hope that will come by the end of the day Monday.

http://www.wmtw.com/news/5212506/detail.html

KatherineQ
10-31-2005, 01:48 PM
It sounds like it's very probably her . . .

Reading the articles about her, and her family's comments, she sounds like a really wonderful person. Sad it seems like she's gone.

fourboys
10-31-2005, 03:28 PM
Police ID Body As Missing Mass. Woman
By News 8 WMTW

POSTED: 8:49 am EST October 31, 2005
UPDATED: 3:22 pm EST October 31, 2005

PORTLAND, Maine -- Portland police identified the body found Monday morning in Portland Harbor as that of a Massachusetts woman who disappeared from the Old Port three weeks ago.

At a news conference Monday afternoon, police said Lynn Moran, 24, died of an accidental drowning.

Moran's body was found at about 7:30 a.m. near the Maine State Pier. Witnesses said a man who works on Long Island found the badly-decomposed body as he was waiting for a boat to take him to work.

It was three weeks ago Monday that Moran disappeared after an evening in Portland's Old Port.

Moran was last seen on Oct. 10 after partying with friends. Moran grew up in Portland but has been living and working in Shrewsbury, Mass.

Searches took place in Portland and South Portland. Her family and friends had placed missing person posters throughout the region, and the family had posted a reward, as well.

The Moran family was not present at Monday's news conference.

http://www.wmtw.com/news/5212506/detail.html

aussiegran
10-31-2005, 03:58 PM
Prayers for her family!:(

Marilynilpa
10-31-2005, 05:12 PM
Police ID Body As Missing Mass. Woman
By News 8 WMTW

POSTED: 8:49 am EST October 31, 2005
UPDATED: 3:22 pm EST October 31, 2005

PORTLAND, Maine -- Portland police identified the body found Monday morning in Portland Harbor as that of a Massachusetts woman who disappeared from the Old Port three weeks ago.

At a news conference Monday afternoon, police said Lynn Moran, 24, died of an accidental drowning.

Moran's body was found at about 7:30 a.m. near the Maine State Pier. Witnesses said a man who works on Long Island found the badly-decomposed body as he was waiting for a boat to take him to work.

It was three weeks ago Monday that Moran disappeared after an evening in Portland's Old Port.

Moran was last seen on Oct. 10 after partying with friends. Moran grew up in Portland but has been living and working in Shrewsbury, Mass.

Searches took place in Portland and South Portland. Her family and friends had placed missing person posters throughout the region, and the family had posted a reward, as well.

The Moran family was not present at Monday's news conference.

http://www.wmtw.com/news/5212506/detail.html
Her sister was on Nancy Grace last week, and it sounded like the family was very close. This is so sad, but since it has been called an accidental drowning, perhaps that will help them as they deal with this terrible loss.

PrayersForMaura
10-31-2005, 08:35 PM
Because of the way she was described walking around, barefooted with a man's shirt and only one button done, I was wondering for a while if maybe she had slipped into the water and fell and drowned :(

That is so sad.

Why did she leave her friend's place and, not to place blame, but why would her friend let her leave in that condition? Did her friend know how bad off she was??

This is totally terrible. She was such a giving person, did so much good ... so intelligent, beautiful ... great person. :(

Prayers for her family and may she rest in peace.

Bobbisangel
11-01-2005, 04:59 AM
I wonder how they can tell so quickly that it was a drowning? Are they going by the fact that she was last seen alone and seemed to be pretty drunk? It seems that they made that decision pretty quickly. Such a shame.

mysteriew
11-01-2005, 06:24 AM
A man who was waiting for his ride at the Maine State Pier found Lynn Moran's body Monday morning around 7:30. The state's medical examiner has determined Moran drowned accidentally.

http://www.wcsh6.com/home/article.asp?id=28127

blueclouds
11-01-2005, 02:52 PM
http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/local/051101moran.shtml

accidental drowning? how can they be so certain? Was she loaded or full of drugs she took on her own accord? Still sounds strange.

reb
11-03-2005, 03:43 AM
ah yes,, the dangers of booze... what a shame.

Tranaice
11-03-2005, 08:13 AM
I wonder if someone slipped something into her drink in one of the bars? It sounds awfully strange, her wondering around barefooted, disoriented and arguing at the store that she went into. Something is just not right here.

audrey77
11-03-2005, 09:37 AM
accidental drowning? how can they be so certain? Was she loaded or full of drugs she took on her own accord? Still sounds strange.

She probably didn't have any defense wounds, or other injuries, etc.

For some reason, drunk people love to go swimming... There have been many parties where I've seen people keeping someone from jumping into the pool...

pugsley
11-03-2005, 02:30 PM
PORTLAND, Maine -- A security video supports detectives' conclusion that there was nothing criminal about a Massachusetts woman's disappearance and drowning in Portland Harbor.

The body of Lynn Moran, of Shrewsbury, Mass., was recovered from the water near the Maine State Pier on Monday, and the state medical examiner determined that her death was an accidental drowning.

The video from the Casco Bay Lines shows a woman believed to be Moran walking alone onto the Maine State Pier on the night she was last seen alive. It does not show her leaving.

Police said Moran visited several bars on the evening of Oct. 10 and was intoxicated when she was last seen leaving a Portland bar and walking in the direction of the waterfront. Moran was a Portland native who was home visiting family and friends on the Columbus Day weekend.

http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/5241279/detail.html

Kelly
11-03-2005, 07:43 PM
The reason they know or say it was an accidental drowning is because of body gases. If a person died of trauma, then the body's gases would cause it to react in a certain manner, either float or sink....I cannot recall which one, but I am sure this has something to do with their determination of the cause of death.

reb
11-03-2005, 08:54 PM
i must say i cannot imagine being so drunk that i would wander down the street with no shoes on, then fall or jump off a pier into icy water and drown. sounds like she definitely must have had alcohol poisoning and blacked out... since there was no indication that she was suicidal or suffering from existential angst.

i wonder if they have found the person who last served her at the bar where she'd been earlier?
here in TX, we have the TABC (TX alcoholic beverage commission)... and if someone is served beyond the point of being wasted, goes out and hurts someone (or themselves), the TABC will track down the bar (and the server) who last served them, and give them a hefty fine- and the employee will most likely lose their job (and if they served a minor may face jail time). it's also the law that all servers must keep an up-to-date license for serving booze, which they get by taking a class & passing a test, to make them aware of the dangers & the seriousness of the responsibility (i.e. peoples' lives!). a lot of people find it stupid, but they dont mess around down here.
do bars & restaurants in maine have a TABC-type commission- and server accountability? if not, they should- in fact i think it should be nationwide.

however, that does not negate the fact that she was ultimately responsible for herself (unless of course, someone drugged her). anyway it's too bad, a perfectly good life wasted for nothing. at least the family has some closure though.

Bobbisangel
11-07-2005, 05:39 AM
Thanks Kelly for that info...makes sense.

I wonder if she had a drinking problem or if she normally drank so much that she wandered around with no shoes on...a shirt on with one button buttoned, etc? Of course this could have been just a time that she over-did and it really had an affect on her. Whatever happened it is really a sad situation. A wonderful young life gone forever and a family left behind hurting.
I'm glad that it wasn't foul play. I'm just so sick of reading about all of the young and old people who are murdered on a daily basis. It really does get to be depressing. Unless a person comes in here or some place like this you just have no idea how really ugly the world is and how much kidnaping and murder is going on. I'll never believe that crime is down. I don't care what the government says. The people in the government who are trying to make us believe that so that we feel safer must be getting their info someplace else. It just isn't true.