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Richard
10-24-2005, 11:23 AM
Ronald Henry Tammen, Jr. (19) Missing since April 19, 1953 from Oxford, OH

Ronald Henry Tammen, Jr.
Missing since April 19, 1953 from Oxford, Ohio
Classification: Endangered Missing

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: July 23, 1933
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'10"; 175 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White male. Dark hair and muscular.
Blood type: O Positive

Circumstances of Disappearance
Tammen was last seen in old Fisher Hall, a former Victorian mental asylum, at Miami University, in Oxford, Ohio on April 19, 1953.
Ronald Henry Tammen Jr. was just another hard-working Miami University student until that cold Sunday night on April 19, 1953, when he walked out of Room 225 and into oblivion.

Forty-five years later, the sophomore business major remains Oxford's favorite ghost story.

Mr. Tammen, a 19-year-old residence hall adviser, vanished from old Fisher Hall, a former Victorian mental asylum that was some said was haunted.

About 8:30 p.m., he entered his room after returning from a road engagement with the Campus Owls, a popular dance band for which he played string bass. Outside sat his 1938 Chevrolet sedan. It is said he heard something that disturbed him, and he went into the hall to investigate. Apparently he didn't intend to go anywhere. He left his wallet, car keys and personal items on his desk. He also left the lights on, a book open, the radio playing and his clothes in the closet. His bank account, with about $200, remained active.

Authorities checked all bus, rail and air terminals. The Air Force ROTC sent 400 men to help students search the countryside.

Officials have discounted any theory of foul play, commenting that the missing man is rugged and strong. Tammen was not in any financial difficulty . . . since counselors are chosen for their stability, there seems to be no reason for a voluntary disappearance. Thus, officials have temporarily settled upon the thesis of amnesia. Friends and family -- from Maple Heights, near Cleveland -- said Mr. Tammen wouldn't leave without telling them. At first, police developed the amnesia theory, but later they did consider that he might have deliberately disappeared.

Phillip R. Shriver, a former Miami president and history professor who came to Miami in 1965, thinks Ronald Tammen somehow lost his memory and later that night arrived on the doorstep of Mrs. Carl Spivey in Seven Mile, about 15 miles east of Oxford. At midnight, she heard a knock on her door. She saw a young man -- he fit Tammen's description -- standing outside. When she opened the door, he asked her how to get to the bus station. But there was no bus station in Seven Mile. She told him to go to Hamilton. She noticed he had a smudge of dirt on a cheek and his eyes were vacuous. Snow was on the ground that night, but he wore no coat or hat. She shut the door and expected to hear his car start, but it didn't. Then she realized the young man was walking. There's every belief he was Ronald Tammen. The supposition is that he had an attack of amnesia. He had no idea who he was, but he wanted to get to the bus stop.

The problem with the amnesia theory is the condition doesn't usually last. Dr. Peter Simson, a psychologist at Miami, said most post-traumatic conditions last a matter of months, at most.

The late Joe Cella, a reporter who covered Mr. Tammen's disappearance for the Hamilton Journal-News, claimed the police investigation wasn't thorough. He continued to inquire about Mr. Tammen for 25 years, and he carried the student's class photo in his wallet. He learned that Mr. Tammen asked for sheets and pillowcases an hour before he disappeared. Mr. Cella also discovered that five months before Mr. Tammen disappeared, he visited Garrett Boone, a Hamilton physician, to determine his blood type. Nothing more.

But by then, police had neither leads nor reasons to continue the investigation. They didn't even keep the original case files. The next year, the university razed 120-year-old Fisher Hall to make way for the Marcum Conference Center.

An arrest card was found for Mr. Tammen. He was cited for running a red light at Main and High streets on March 21, 1953. His $5 fine was suspended.


If you have any information concerning this case, please contact: Oxford Police Department 513-524-5240

Source Information:
The Cincinnati Enquirer 10/31/98
Ron Tammen Disappearance
The Doe Network: Case File 1562DMOH

Link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1562dmoh.html

Richard
11-01-2005, 10:09 AM
Does anyone know more about this case? Just in reading through it, I would ask a few questions.

- What kind of grades did he have? Was he doing well in school or on the verge of flunking out?

- Was he pledging a fraternity? His quick disappearance sounds like something that might be done as part of a fraternity initiation or a prank by other students.

- Was he facing induction into the Army? At age 19 and at the height of the Korean War, perhaps he left to avoid the draft.

- Why would he be interested in learning what his blood type was? Had he been involved with a girl, and was he facing a paternity suit?

- Was he a member of the Air Force ROTC? They are mentioned as assisting in the search for him. Was this something they did as a regular service (searching), or was he one of theirs?

- Have any unidentified bodies turned up over the years in Ohio, Indiana, or Kentucky, which might be his?

Marilynilpa
11-01-2005, 11:03 AM
Does anyone know more about this case? Just in reading through it, I would ask a few questions.

- What kind of grades did he have? Was he doing well in school or on the verge of flunking out?

- Was he pledging a fraternity? His quick disappearance sounds like something that might be done as part of a fraternity initiation or a prank by other students.

- Was he facing induction into the Army? At age 19 and at the height of the Korean War, perhaps he left to avoid the draft.

- Why would he be interested in learning what his blood type was? Had he been involved with a girl, and was he facing a paternity suit?

- Was he a member of the Air Force ROTC? They are mentioned as assisting in the search for him. Was this something they did as a regular service (searching), or was he one of theirs?

- Have any unidentified bodies turned up over the years in Ohio, Indiana, or Kentucky, which might be his?
Once again, you've come up with a good one.

He wanted to know his blood type - as you said, it could have been for reasons of paternity. Would he have needed to know his blood type in order to apply for something, such as a marriage license? Did he have a friend or relative in the hospital at that time who needed blood of a particular type?

Do we know what his major was?

Why would he have wanted sheets and pillowcases? Were there any dirty bedsheets in his room?

It would be interesting to learn if he was in ROTC. If he was, then he probably didn't disappear in order to avoid military service.

From what he left behind, it certainly doesn't appear he was planning to be gone very long.

This will be an interesting case to investigate.

Marilynilpa
11-01-2005, 02:13 PM
"At approximately 8:00 Sunday evening, April 19, 1953, Tammen left his Fisher Hall room to get new bed sheets from the Hall manager because someone had put a fish in his bed. Tammen took the sheets and returned to his dorm room to study psychology. It was the last time he was definitely seen alive. At 10:30 p.m., Tammen's roommate returned to find Tammen's psychology book laying open on his desk and all the room lights on. The roommate didn't think anything of it; he assumed that Tammen had decided to spend the night in the Delta Tau Delta house. It was only when Tammen failed to return the following day that the roommate became worried and a search for the missing student was begun." (bolding added by me.)

The entire article can be found at: http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/tammen.html


Here is a link to a picture of the band Ronald played with:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100304.pdf

Here is a link to a newspaper article about his disappearance:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100320.pdf

Here is yet another article:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100311.pdf

This link is to photos of Ronald's room:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100318.pdf

Here are links to several other articles about him:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100327.pdf

http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100308.pdf

http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100307.pdf

Yet another article (hard to read, but has a photo of Ronald):
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100309.pdf

Here are links to more articles:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100310.pdf

http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100321.pdf

http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100317.pdf

http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100319.pdf

This link is to police notes about the case:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100314.pdf

docwho3
11-01-2005, 02:17 PM
I wonder if this will turn out to be one of those cases where 15 to 20 people knew what happened be kept silent.

Richard
11-01-2005, 02:33 PM
I would think that a 1953 Miami University Yearbook "Recensio" might have a photo and list of members of Delta Tau Delta, Gamma Upsilon Chapter, who knew Ronald. I wonder if any of them could shed some light on the subject today?

Marilynilpa
11-01-2005, 03:25 PM
I would think that a 1953 Miami University Yearbook "Recensio" might have a photo and list of members of Delta Tau Delta, Gamma Upsilon Chapter, who knew Ronald. I wonder if any of them could shed some light on the subject today?
It's certainly possible, although if criminal activity was involved in Ronald's disappearance, the fraternity members may still keep their silence.

It's possible he was hit on the head and suffered amnesia, but I tend to discount that. His photo and physical description were in the paper, so even if he couldn't remember who he was, I think someone would have recognized him.

anthrobones
01-05-2006, 08:07 PM
His bank account, with about $200, remained active.What exactly does this mean? Does it mean he used it after he disappeared?

I think the description on Doe Network said his major was business.

Isn't O the rarest blood type?

mysteriew
01-06-2006, 12:45 AM
Isn't O the rarest blood type?

O+ is the most common blood type in the human race.

Wonder if he was taking a biology course?
There could be another reason for finding out his blood type. What if he knew Mm's blood type was A, and knew Dad's blood type was B. What if he had had prior suspicions, and then found out his blood type was O? What if thought he was an O+ but after studying it in class wanted to verify it?

Another reason for finding out the blood type, might be if you wanted to donate blood for someone. Or if you wanted to sell your blood.

Richard
01-06-2006, 12:53 AM
What exactly does this mean? Does it mean he used it after he disappeared?

I think the description on Doe Network said his major was business.

Isn't O the rarest blood type?
I believe that it means that the bank account remained "open" as opposed to having been closed and the money withdrawn.

O is one of the most common types of blood in the US, and is considered to be the "universal donor" type. The rarest type of blood would probably be AB negative.

Susan Shock
01-06-2006, 01:35 PM
How reliable was the supposed sighting of him by this woman. Could she have been mistaken? WAs it really him she saw or someone else? It was evening after all. How much light was there? Was it cloudy.

Stella
02-28-2006, 11:23 PM
I don't know if this has already been covered, but here goes. The age and height are "off" a bit, but that composite drawing of Mr. Bones looks a lot like the photo of Ronald Tammen Jr. on the Doe Network. Possible or not?

kylie
02-28-2006, 11:39 PM
Wow, this is sooooo tragic...I wonder if his brothers and sisters are still very affected by this....it must have been so difficult at the time...shame on the police for throwing away the case file................I think someone above was right and that maybe something did happen to him but everyone kept silent....I think that sighting might be suspect but the details seem honest......

Richard
03-01-2006, 09:58 AM
I don't know if this has already been covered, but here goes. The age and height are "off" a bit, but that composite drawing of Mr. Bones looks a lot like the photo of Ronald Tammen Jr. on the Doe Network. Possible or not?
His photo does look a bit like the composite of Mr. Bones. I have a feeling, however, that the difference in time between Ronald's disappearance, and the estimated time of Mr. Bones' death (Spring 1958) is just too great. Five years is a long time to intentionally remain missing, yet traveling all around the country.

It is possible, but the time frame, and age would tend to argue against a match.

MaryLiz
01-10-2007, 10:18 AM
Here is a new article about Ron Tammen's disappearance in the Oxford (Ohio) Press. There are no recent developments but it's interesting to revisit this missing persons case that has fascinated me for some time now. Miami University is about 2 hours from where I live and I would love to go there sometime and go over all the records they have about this very baffling disappearance. Also, there are a couple new theories as to why he might have gotten that blood test several months earlier that I don't remember reading in past articles.

http://www.oxfordpress.com/life/content/oh/story/news/local/community/2007/01/03/op010507tammen.html

Richard
01-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Thanks for the link. I saw this article just recently in an Oxford University Alumni magazine. It is an interesting read.

The same magazine also featured another strange case from an earlier era involving the sudden death of a popular chemistry professor.

Jade
01-10-2007, 04:46 PM
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/taj00100314.pdf (http://)
The police officer noted that the bed was made with the exception of putting the pillow in the pillowcase. The link with the picture of his room shows a neat and tidy bed with a pillow with no pillowcase. An article says that he had received both sheets and pillowcase. Wonder if the pillowcase was accounted for? A Frat prank theory could include a pillowcase over the head while being driven out of town and dropped to find his way back. Perhaps he good-naturedly went along as would be expected. His wallet was empty of money and an article states that his roommate speculates it should have had some but no more than 11 or 12 dollars. So a prank to drop him off somewhere not too remote and give him a few bucks of his own money to use in getting back to the dorm. The woman that says he came to her door reports him as being embarrassed as I would guess someone would be in such a situation and certainly the goal of a prank. She described a coat such as he was wearing but who knows if that was reported on in the article in which she recognized him.

But what about this?

http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/tammen.html (http://)

In 1973, the Butler County Coroner revealed that Tammen had visited his office, seeking a blood test, five months to the day before his disappearance. The Coroner claimed that, in his 35 years of practice, Ronald Tammen was the only person to visit his office with such a request. There were closer and more logical choices available for him to get his blood typed. Many reasons why one would need their blood typed [major surgery to bank blood, in case of emergency etc.] but why so mysteriously?

Richard don't leave us hanging -what happened to the Chem Prof?

MaryLiz
01-10-2007, 05:08 PM
Thanks for the link. I saw this article just recently in an Oxford University Alumni magazine. It is an interesting read.

The same magazine also featured another strange case from an earlier era involving the sudden death of a popular chemistry professor.
Yes Richard, I seem to remember reading something about that a long time ago. It was in the late 1800s I think and some fellow teachers or students suspected his wife and her lover, who I think got married not long after. I'm kind of foggy on the details. I think I'm thinking of the right case but not sure.

Bluecat
01-11-2007, 04:05 PM
There are a bunch of other links at the Miami University library site:
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/

I found the transcript of the 1977 local TV show about this interesting, it shows that his parents pursued the case and his father reported him to the draft board when the semester ended
http://www.lib.muohio.edu/mysteries/files/phantom.pdf

I find it odd that the roommate came home late the night of his disappearance (from his home in Dayton (depending on how he got there, maybe an hour or two away) and found nothing strange about all of Ron's belongings being there, including his wallet, with the door open, a light on, music playing, and a book open. Ron was last seen at 8pm or 8:30pm on Sunday night depending upon the account, and he was a member of the varsity wrestling squad. It was near 0 degrees that night, and he had left his coat! Given that the roommate came home at 9pm or 9:30pm, that leaves 30 to 90 minutes for him to disappear. No signs of foul play, but let's face it, there aren't always. I'm surprised the roommate is not a suspect...he would have all night to clean up... Of course, the roommate said that the wallet had his ID and papers but no cash (estimated at less than $12).

The amnesia angle makes no sense to me...with temperatures near 0 degrees and no coat he would not have survived for very long out there. Windchill would bring it down to at least -15 degrees. It seems that the only reason for thinking he did not meet with foul play is that the room was not roughed up. That could just mean that someone held a gun to him and forced him outside, or they surprised him and conked him over the head. I saw a story recently where a woman went missing, and her body was found over a year later in the building - the murderer had concealed the body in a box in his own bedroom. The only reason they found the body after a year is because he reached a point where he could not stand for the body to be there any more and moved it to a common storage area. So it seems that (especially given the cold) his body could have been concealed until it could be disposed of more thoroughly.

Supposedly there were other students at the school in the previous year or so who fell into a dissociative fugue and wandered off, only to come back later. According to websites:

http://www.visionandpsychosis.net/Missing_Students.htm#NOTES

http://www.riehlworldview.com/carnivorous_conservative/2005/09/taylor_behl_upd.html

Another story here:
http://www.enquirer.com/editions/1998/10/31/loc_miamighost31.html

Here's another account I found, dates to 2003:

Journal-News, Wednesday, Feb. 26, 2003
Miami's Ron Tammen mystery began 50 years ago in April 1953

By Jim Blount

The Ron Tammen mystery is nearly 50 years old, and no closer to solution than it was that cold night when the 19-year-old sophomore, who had been seen studying in his room in Fisher Hall, vanished from the Miami University campus in Oxford. His disappearance Sunday night, April 19, 1953, perplexed investigators and reporters for decades.

At about 9 p.m., Sunday, his roommate, Charley Findlay, returned from a weekend visit to Dayton. He discovered Tammen’s radio playing and his psychology book open on his desk in Room 225, but Tammen wasn’t there. There was no note reporting his whereabouts.

Also left behind were his watch, wallet, keys and a coat. His 1939 Chevrolet was in its usual parking place. Later, it was learned that $200 remained in his bank account. He hadn’t contacted a brother, Richard Tammen, then a Miami freshman.

Ron Tammen -- 5-10 and 175 pounds -- was last seen about 8:30 p.m. when he was issued fresh linen for his room.

The graduate of Maple Heights High School in suburban Cleveland was a 3.2 business student, a varsity light heavyweight wrestler, a member of Delta Tau Delta fraternity and played bass in a local dance band, the Campus Owls.

According to 1953 reports, his friends described him as stable, responsible and friendly -- not a person expected to run away without telling anyone.

Theories have ranged from amnesia and foul play to the possibility that Tammen, who was enrolled in the U. S. Navy ROTC program, ran away to avoid the chance that he would be ordered to serve in the Korean War (1950-53).

There were no signs of a struggle in his room, and kidnaping was dismissed because there was no ransom note or demands for money.

Wednesday evening, April 22 -- three days after his disappearance -- television stations in the area flashed a picture of Tammen on the screen and appealed for help in locating the missing student.

It brought only one response -- from a woman in Seven Mile, who reported a strange acting, but polite young man had knocked on her door about midnight Sunday. He asked directions to a bus stop, she recalled. She directed him into Hamilton. She thought it odd he wasn’t wearing a coat or hat on such a cold night.

Despite investigations, including the FBI, Ronald Henry Tammen was never seen again. He left a trail as cold as the night he disappeared -- the temperature near zero with snow flurries.

A few weeks after his disappearance, some residents of Fisher Hall reported hearing mysterious singing and seeing a ghostly figure in the formal gardens near the dormitory.

The Tammen mystery, some have said, is just another example of strange happenings in and about Fisher Hall, the base for several ghost stories. It was built in 1856 by the Oxford Female College. It was the Oxford Retreat, a sanitarium for the mentally ill from 1882 until 1926, when Miami acquired it from the Cook family.

When the U. S. Navy moved into Oxford June 1, 1942, trainees were bunked in Fisher Hall, which was commissioned the USS Fisher Hall for the duration of World War II.

From 1958 to 1969, it housed Miami’s theater department. Fisher Hall was abandoned in 1969 and demolished after efforts to preserve it failed in July 1978. Later, the Marcum Memorial Conference Center was built on the site.

On Halloween night 1975, a student group sponsored a seance inside a boarded-up Fisher Hall. About 200 students attended as a California spiritualist sought the spirit of Ron Tammen. He claimed to have a vision of a young man going from a second floor room to the basement, attracted by loud noises. In the basement, he confronted two "men of evil," who attacked him. His vision ended, he said, as the men dragged the body out of the building.

Finally, his Charlie Project case:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/tammen_ronald.html

Next question, can anyone substantiate the supposed other amnesia cases from the university? There is nothing in the news reports.

monkalup
01-17-2008, 01:01 AM
Possible Break In Student's 1953 Disappearance

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Possible Break In Student's 1953 Disappearance
Ronald Tammen A Local Breaking News Alert now tied to a missing Tri-State college student.

It's a possible break in a case that dates back 50 years and is the source of many ghost stories on the campus of Miami University.

19-year-old business major Ronald Tammen vanished from the old Fisher Hall in April of 1953. His bed was made and one of his textbooks was open on his desk. No-one has seen him since.

About a week ago, a cold case detective in northern Georgia made contact with Oxford Police and the Butler County Sheriff's Department. That detective wanted to talk about the body of a man found in his jurisdiction a month after Ronald Tammen went missing.

Butler County's Cold Case Squad is now comparing notes with that detective. A connection could possibly make clear the mystery of Tammen's disappearance.
http://www.local12.com/content/breaking_news/story.aspx?content_id=790a05d8-d045-4f3a-b2c6-bcf4c49bf891

MaryLiz
01-17-2008, 08:47 AM
Possible Break In Student's 1953 Disappearance

Last Update: 9:36 pm

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Possible Break In Student's 1953 Disappearance
Ronald Tammen A Local Breaking News Alert now tied to a missing Tri-State college student.

It's a possible break in a case that dates back 50 years and is the source of many ghost stories on the campus of Miami University.

19-year-old business major Ronald Tammen vanished from the old Fisher Hall in April of 1953. His bed was made and one of his textbooks was open on his desk. No-one has seen him since.

About a week ago, a cold case detective in northern Georgia made contact with Oxford Police and the Butler County Sheriff's Department. That detective wanted to talk about the body of a man found in his jurisdiction a month after Ronald Tammen went missing.

Butler County's Cold Case Squad is now comparing notes with that detective. A connection could possibly make clear the mystery of Tammen's disappearance.
http://www.local12.com/content/breaking_news/story.aspx?content_id=790a05d8-d045-4f3a-b2c6-bcf4c49bf891

Wow, thanks for the update. I've been watching this one for a long time and usually check Google News for updates but the last time I looked was about 2 weeks ago. That would be wonderful if they could solve this!

HollywoodBound
01-17-2008, 10:45 AM
I looked on Doenetwork's unidentifieds but did not see this entry in GA in the 50's. I wonder if the body had any clothing or jewelry with it that could help ID him?

I wonder what some reasons are to have ones blood tested, expecting surgery would be one, giving blood another...

KarlK
01-17-2008, 04:31 PM
O is one of the most common types of blood in the US, and is considered to be the "universal donor" type.

O is the most common blood type in people of European descent (so-called 'Caucasians') which indeed comprises the majority of the population in North America. Only O- (the most common O type) is true universal donor though. O+ can be given to any other group except O- which means people with O- can give blood to anyone but can only receive O- themselves.

KarlK
01-17-2008, 04:44 PM
Another reason for finding out the blood type, might be if you wanted to donate blood for someone. Or if you wanted to sell your blood.

Good call, back in the 1950's it was still common for students to sell their blood as a source of extra income.

HollywoodBound
01-17-2008, 04:48 PM
Good call, back in the 1950's it was still common for students to sell their blood as a source of (modest) extra income.

It seems that if students sold their blood the test would probably be done at that establishment where they are having it drawn. Even the doctor stated it was the first time any one had come in just for that purpose.

I wonder if he was suffering from some kind of paranoia and kept it very well hidden.

I also wonder if the original report included what was said when Ronald went to see the doctor. Did the doctor ask him what is prompting the test?

KarlK
01-17-2008, 05:08 PM
shame on the police for throwing away the case file................

Well he was legally an adult and although the circumstances of his vanishing are unusual there was no real evidence of foul play so LE had very little to go on. Also one must keep in mind that sometimes in such decades old cases some significant details that could shed some light on the event are forgotten over time. It is always useful to try and determine if an old event was considered a great mystery at the time it occurred or if it only gained that status over time in a manner that is sometimes referred to as Bermuda Triangle effect.

This occurs when a significant detail pertaining to an "unexplained" event that could help explain the event is left out of the story usually because it wasn't published in the original incident reports, for a variety of reasons. Because of this these details are sometimes left out of the official case file because someone simply neglected to put it there. I'm not saying this is what happened with the Tammen case, only that it should be taken into consideration. For example Tammen may have had personality traits or a family situation that didn't make it to the case file, among other possibilities, that could help in explaining what happened or Tammen's possible motivations for wanting to disappear if that's what happened.

hoppyfrog
01-17-2008, 06:50 PM
http://www.kypost.com/content/wcposhared/story.aspx?content_id=0a4615d3-d2d3-4e1f-a443-cf060b16ea80

A Butler County cold case team is working with detectives in Georgia in hopes of finding a Miami University student who disappeared in April 1953.

Ronald Tammen was 19-years-old when he disappeared.

The Air Force ROTC sent 400 men out to search the countryside for him.

Detectives are working to see if a body found in Georgia a month after Tammen disappeared is him.

The body found in Georgia was never identified.

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MaryLiz
01-17-2008, 10:28 PM
http://www.kypost.com/content/wcposhared/story.aspx?content_id=0a4615d3-d2d3-4e1f-a443-cf060b16ea80

A Butler County cold case team is working with detectives in Georgia in hopes of finding a Miami University student who disappeared in April 1953.

Ronald Tammen was 19-years-old when he disappeared.

The Air Force ROTC sent 400 men out to search the countryside for him.


Detectives are working to see if a body found in Georgia a month after Tammen disappeared is him.

The body found in Georgia was never identified.

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Also, here is his thread from the Cold Cases category. There is more info in this thread too in case anyone wants to read up on the case.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31201

pittsburghgirl
01-18-2008, 12:20 AM
When I read the earlier parts of the thread, I followed a link that Liz posted a year ago and found this:


http://www.oxfordpress.com/search/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/01/17/hjn011808missingfoloinside.html


http://www.oxfordpress.com/search/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/01/16/hjn011708missing.html

mysteriew
01-18-2008, 02:37 AM
What is most interesting to me is the suspicion that an Ohio student disappeared in April and may have been found in Georgia almost 3 months later and already decomposing. And that all happened 55 years ago. This one helps to make the case for the need for DNA testing on all unidentified persons.

This article contains some info on the clothing found on the unidentified and clothing found nearby.


The body found was described as 5 feet 9 inches tall, weighing 155 to 160 pounds, dark brown hair, long slender fingers, long arms, about 25 to 30 years old. He was wearing a T-shirt and a pair of shorts.

A suitcase of military clothing was found in the vicinity and the man was wearing a pair of "GI" socks, according to the newspaper account.

http://www.western-star.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/01/17/hjn011808missingfoloinside.html

I am wondering if he didn't leave Oxford voluntarily, maybe picked up some clothing at a surplus store and then was killed- maybe hitchhiking. Army surplus stores were common in the 70's, but I don't know if they were around in the 50's. Still a serviceman could have given his uniforms to the Salvation Army or other relief org after leaving the service.

When I discussed him going to a distant doctor and asking about his blood type, what I was thinking was in college he would have been studying some sciences. I wondered if maybe he knew his parents blood types, and in studying them if perhaps he found out that for example: Mom was one blood type (maybe A) and Dad was another type (maybe B) and maybe his type was a totally different type. In studying that he could have come to the conclusion that his Dad wasn't his Dad. In the 50's, an illigetimate baby was a disgrace for the mother and the child was often called bad names. Plus if he had grown up thinking that the Dad was his father, he would maybe think he had been lied to all his life. That could have preyed on his mind. Or maybe he found out he was adopted? Maybe he came to the conclusion that college, the life his parents wanted for him felt like a lie- he wanted to "find" himself, etc??? If he left voluntarily, I feel that Psychology book being open means something but I don't know what.

Fraternity prank is a good theory, but the distance between where he disappeared from and the area he may have been found kinda rules that out.

This article talks about the search for Ronald


The Air Force ROTC sent 400 men out to search the countryside for him.
http://www.kypost.com/content/wcposhared/story.aspx?content_id=0a4615d3-d2d3-4e1f-a443-cf060b16ea80

chicoliving
01-19-2008, 05:29 PM
~snip~

A body was found in the Walnut Grove area in Walker County in late June 1953. The remains were never identified and the case remained unsolved.

Now investigators are wondering if it could be 19-year-old Ronald Tammen Jr., a sophomore who disappeared from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, in April 1953.

The plan is to use technology that was unavailable in the 1950s to perform DNA tests on the remains and compare the results to DNA from Tammen’s living siblings, Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said.

If there is a match, the case would be upgraded to an active homicide investigation, he said.

http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?show=localnews&pnpID=730&NewsID=870163&CategoryID=3511&on=1

Anita Richman
01-19-2008, 08:18 PM
I wonder if the fish which was stuck in his bed was a prank or a threat.

Bluecat
01-20-2008, 01:51 PM
On the other hand, maybe he was getting someone to do a paternity test.

I'd wait to see if these two match before I speculate, but yes in the 50s there were certainly military surplus stores. A Google search finds an article in the Christian Science Monitor from as far back as 1919 about these businesses. So it would have been possible to pick up "military clothing" so far as fatigues, socks, etc. but probably most likely not dress uniform. If there was dress uniform in the suitcase it was most likely not surplus but a soldier.

If the match does not pan out - given that the Korean War ended in late July, 1953, it is as likely as anything that the UID was a recently discharged vet. It would not take long to become "badly decomposed" in July in Georgia.

Anita Richman
01-20-2008, 10:43 PM
On the other hand, maybe he was getting someone to do a paternity test.

I'd wait to see if these two match before I speculate, but yes in the 50s there were certainly military surplus stores. A Google search finds an article in the Christian Science Monitor from as far back as 1919 about these businesses. So it would have been possible to pick up "military clothing" so far as fatigues, socks, etc. but probably most likely not dress uniform. If there was dress uniform in the suitcase it was most likely not surplus but a soldier.

If the match does not pan out - given that the Korean War ended in late July, 1953, it is as likely as anything that the UID was a recently discharged vet. It would not take long to become "badly decomposed" in July in Georgia.

Bluecat, regarding the paternity test. Back in the 50's, when it was unpopular for women to be unwed mothers, wouldn't it have been odd for someone to be accusing him of paternity (whereby he would be getting someone to take a paternity test) without having followed up with his family for financial support?

Rhett
01-21-2008, 01:08 PM
You mean after over a year they still do not know if this unidentified person is Tammen or not?

Richard
01-23-2008, 02:36 PM
Bluecat, regarding the paternity test. Back in the 50's, when it was unpopular for women to be unwed mothers, wouldn't it have been odd for someone to be accusing him of paternity (whereby he would be getting someone to take a paternity test) without having followed up with his family for financial support?

Paternity tests (as we know them today matching DNA samples) did not exist back in 1953. About the only thing that could be done was to compare the baby's blood type with that of the suspected father. In some cases, he might be eliminated as a possibility, but it could never positively identify anyone.

monkalup
01-28-2008, 02:32 PM
http://www.uwire.com/2008/01/18/police-reo...iami-u-mystery/

Police reopen 54-year-old Miami U. mystery
January 18th, 2008 by Caroline Briggs
Source: Miami Student
Remains found in Georgia have reopened the cold trail of Ronald Henry Tammen, who mysteriously disappeared from his Miami University dormitory 54 years ago.

The Butler County Sheriff’s Department is working in conjunction with Walker County Sheriff’s Department of Georgia and the Oxford Police Department, according to Butler County’s Sgt. Monte Mayer.

The remains found in Georgia are dated to the same spring as Tammen’s April 19, 1953 disappearance, Mayer said.

“This is certainly a good lead that requires some following through,” he said. “But many cold cases have hundreds, if not thousands of leads. We know it was a body buried in the 50s.”

According to Mayer, Detective Frank Smith, Butler County’s cold case investigator, is handling the case by working with Georgia regarding identification of the remains found, as well as gathering up all known information of Tammen.

More answers may link 1953 cold case to Georgia remains
Miami University student vanished from his dorm room over 50 years ago; now investigators want to find out if skeletal remains are his
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By Lauren Pack

Staff Writer

Friday, January 18, 2008

HAMILTON — When Walker County, Ga., Sheriff's Capt. Mike Freeman received a quick "hit" from Butler County on a 55-year-old cold case in his county, he thought right away, "We need a lot more answers."

Through research on the Internet and old clippings from the Walker County Messenger, Freeman learned about both the case of Ronald Tammen, a 19-year-old Miami University sophomore missing since April 1953, and a badly decomposed body found in a wooded area of northeast Georgia in July 1953.

What's Freeman's gut feeling? Are they the same person?

"It's worth a second look. It's worth a third look," Freeman said.

When asked the same questions, Frank Smith of the Butler County Sheriff's Office, who is working the case along with the Oxford Police Department, said with a smile, "There are a lot of similarities."

"We are in the very early stages right now," Freeman said, noting forensic evidence may eventually prove whether the body is Tammen. But first he has to locate a more complete investigation file from the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and the unidentified body may have to be exhumed from is resting place of almost 55 years.

According to the July 1, 1953, edition of the Walker County Messenger, the body of a white man was found in clump of bushes near U.S. 27 about five miles south of LaFayette.

Freeman noted that in 1953 there was no interstate system, but U.S. 27 also runs through Oxford.

Another reason to suspect a link, Smith noted, "is because of the characteristics of the body."

The body found was described as 5 feet 9 inches tall, weighing 155 to 160 pounds, dark brown hair, long slender fingers, long arms, about 25 to 30 years old. He was wearing a T-shirt and a pair of shorts.

A suitcase of military clothing was found in the vicinity and the man was wearing a pair of "GI" socks, according to the newspaper account.

Tammen, a graduate of Maple Heights High School in suburban Cleveland, was 5 feet 10 inches tall and weighed 175 pounds.

He was last seen about 8:30 p.m. April 19, 1953, when he was issued fresh sheets because someone had put a fish in his bed.

Tammen was enrolled in the U.S. Navy ROTC program, was a varsity wrestler, a member of the Delta Tau Delta fraternity and played bass in a local dance band.

Theories through the years have ranged from amnesia and foul play to the possibility that Tammen ran away to avoid the draft.

Smith said there is no indication Tammen met his demise in Oxford or Butler County. He just simply vanished into the night, leaving everything behind.

There were no signs of a struggle in his room, and kidnapping was dismissed because there was no ransom note or demands for money.

Despite investigations, including by the FBI, there were never any confirmed sightings of Tammen.

Freeman said if the remains prove to be Tammen's, "I will then have to find out what happened to him. That won't be easy.

"I would love to resolve his demise," he added. "Many people are dead and gone now, but it still matters. It matters to someone."


Contact this reporter at (513) 820-2168 or lpack@coxohio.com.

http://www.oxfordpress.com/n/content/oh/st...foloinside.html

Richard
01-28-2008, 03:45 PM
Link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1562dmoh.html

MaryLiz
01-28-2008, 04:39 PM
Here's a link to another article with an interview with Ronald Tammen's sister.

http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/01/20/ddn012008tammen.html

Ms Suzanne
01-29-2008, 04:22 PM
Hi
They need to probably check this DNA with Mr Bones in Pennsylvania also.I was looking for a connection with Mr Bones and the Boy in the box found in 1957.

suzanne

MaryLiz
01-29-2008, 09:49 PM
Hi
They need to probably check this DNA with Mr Bones in Pennsylvania also.I was looking for a connection with Mr Bones and the Boy in the box found in 1957.

suzanne

I thought a while back about a possible connection between Ronald Tammen and Mr. Bones who was found in 1958. But I checked the height and Ron was 5'10" and 175 pounds and 19 years old. Mr. Bones they thought was between 30-35 and he was 6'4" at 200 pounds. A significant difference in height. It still wouldn't hurt to check it out. You never know.

I thought of 2 possible scenarios with Ron Tammen. I read more than once that he went to investigate a noise. One article said the noise was out in the hall (Charley Project) and another said it was in the basement of the old Fisher Hall. (I can't find that particular news article at the moment but I'm still looking). I thought maybe if it was in the basement someone could have been down there and knocked him over the head or he could have tripped and fell in the dark and hit his head on something. When he woke up he didn't know who or where he was. He then showed up at the woman's house between 11PM and midnight asking about a bus to Middletown. She thought it was Tammen and said he appeared disheveled and confused. If he suffered a head injury (and it WAS him that knocked on her door that night) it's entirely possible he had amnesia. If the UID in Georgia turns out to be him, the time frame would fit for him to have just taken off not knowing who he was or where he was going. He disappeared on April 19 and the badly decomposed body in Georgia was found in late June. That's only about a 2 month time span. According to experts, loss of memory can last from 2 hours to about 2 months, depending on how serious the initial head injury is. Here's a link to an article about it.

http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/amnesia.shtml

The other possibility is the blood test having something to do with his disappearance. It may very well have been taken for the purpose of proving paternity. For a 19-year-old college sophomore that would have been a very difficult thing to deal with back in 1953. It would still be difficult to deal with today but it was definitely more unheard of back then. It is odd that he requested that blood test and went to the Butler County Coroner in Hamilton to do so. It had to have been for something secretive or he would have had it done in Oxford where the University was. If it was something to do with the military, he could have had the blood test done at the time of the physical.

chicoliving
01-30-2008, 06:40 PM
Walker County authorities say they plan to exhume the body of man found off U.S. 27 in the Walnut Grove area in late June 1953.

The remains were never identified and the case remained unsolved. The body was eventually buried at LaFayette City Cemetery.

“It is looking like we are going to do an exhumation and a definite date has not been set yet,” Capt. Mike Freeman said Wednesday.

Investigators want to know if the body is 19-year-old Ronald Tammen Jr., a sophomore who disappeared from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, in April 1953.

http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?show=localnews&pnpID=730&NewsID=872663&CategoryID=3511&on=1

chicoliving
01-30-2008, 06:42 PM
Police say DNA could link missing Miami student to remains found in Georgia.

HAMILTON — Butler County Sheriff's Office Specialist Frank Smith said it would have been "virtually impossible" in 1953 for law enforcement in the rural South and Oxford, Ohio, to link an unidentified man found dead in the Georgia woods and a missing Miami University student.

http://www.oxfordpress.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/01/17/hjn011808missingfolo.html

Missing case revived after 55 years

OXFORD - He just vanished.

One moment Ronald Henry Tammen Jr. was thumbing through a psychology book in his dorm at Miami University, and then, who knows what.

On a cold April night in 1953, the 19-year-old went from man to phantom when no one was looking.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080118/NEWS01/301180081

MaryLiz
01-31-2008, 09:47 PM
Police say DNA could link missing Miami student to remains found in Georgia.

HAMILTON — Butler County Sheriff's Office Specialist Frank Smith said it would have been "virtually impossible" in 1953 for law enforcement in the rural South and Oxford, Ohio, to link an unidentified man found dead in the Georgia woods and a missing Miami University student.

http://www.oxfordpress.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/01/17/hjn011808missingfolo.html

Missing case revived after 55 years

OXFORD - He just vanished.

One moment Ronald Henry Tammen Jr. was thumbing through a psychology book in his dorm at Miami University, and then, who knows what.

On a cold April night in 1953, the 19-year-old went from man to phantom when no one was looking.

http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080118/NEWS01/301180081


This is the thread for this case, Ronald Tammen, in the Cold Case section with some other articles on him.


http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31201

MaryLiz
02-01-2008, 09:23 PM
From the Walker County Messenger, GA

Investigators will exhume body found in 1953
01/30/08
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Walker County authorities say they plan to exhume the body of man found off U.S. 27 in the Walnut Grove area in late June 1953. The remains were never identified and the case remained unsolved. The body was eventually buried at LaFayette City Cemetery. “It is looking like we are going to do an exhumation and a definite date has not been set yet,” Capt. Mike Freeman said Wednesday. Investigators want to know if the body is 19-year-old Ronald Tammen Jr., a sophomore who disappeared from Miami University in Oxford, Ohio, in April 1953. Forensic pathologist Kris Sperry, who is Georgia’s chief medical examiner, and GBI anthropologist Rick Snow will be on hand during the exhumation. “It is just in the planning stages,” Freeman said. After the body is exhumed, the plan is to perform DNA tests and compare the results to DNA from Tammen’s living siblings, Walker County Sheriff Steve Wilson said.

If there is a match, the case would be upgraded to an active homicide investigation, Wilson said. The unidentified man was described as 5-feet, 9-inches and 155-160 pounds, with dark brown hair and between ages 25 and 30. Tammen went missing on April 19, 1953. He was said to have been 5-feet, 10-inches and 175 pounds. He was last seen around 8:30 p.m. that day, when he was issued fresh bed sheets, because someone had placed a fish in his bed. "If it isn't (Tammen), we hope to gain enough evidence to possibly identify who it really is...Somebody, somewhere wants to know," Freeman said.

http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/730/images/news/ACF5AB5.jpgRonald Tammen, Jr.

MaryLiz
02-04-2008, 05:27 PM
This is a very interesting article with another interview with Ron Tammen's sister.

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D-N-A could solve the 55 year old mystery of a missing Miami University student. Butler County's cold case detective has DNA from Ron Tammen's sister. Tammen disappeared from his campus dorm room in 1953. His sister's DNA will be compared with remains found in Georgia a month after the sophomore disappeared.

The mystery haunts the Ohio campus and as Local 12's Deborah Dixon tells us, it tore apart an All-American family.

1953...Americans liked Ike. He was sworn in as the 34th president...music was simpler, sweeter, so was life.

Marcia Tammen, Ron Tammen's Sister:"This was Ronald on prom night graduation. That's me with his date."

Marcia Tammen grew up with her four brothers in an Ozzie and Harriet-type family in this Cleveland suburb of Maple Heights.

"Good family ties happy dining room conversations."

Deborah Dixon:"The Tammen boys were known for their musical talents and their clean cut good looks they always wore crisp white shirts and khaki pants to school."

At Miami University, Ron was a sort of genius in math and science. The 19 year-old sophomore bore the Tannem good looks, had a 3.2 average and played in a dance band. He seemed to have it all. Then he was gone. Ron's roommate found his radio on, a book open on his desk and the keys to his 1939 green Chevy, big enough for his bass fiddle, still in the car. For the Tammen family, April 19th 1953 was the day the music died.

"Dead or alive, we don't know, this was the haunting questions absolutely devastated the entire family."

Marcia Tammen does not believe her focused brother, who wanted to serve his country like his brothers, simply walked away from life.

"We were a very close family. He wouldn't have picked up and left his mother in the unknown. He had too much respect for the family."

Marcia recalls the receipt from the coroner's office where her brother went for a blood test. He paid 20 dollars instead of getting a free one on campus. Why? That's all part of the mystery.

And this is just plain spooky, a painting of Jesus, Marcia got at bible school the morning of April 19, 1953. Ron disappeared that night. It says only "one life will soon be past..."

It was the day her mother's life began to fade away, as she began waiting for her son to come home..or for answers.

"You can't tell me people don't die of broken hearts...they do."

Marcia says if the John Doe in Georgia is not her brother, she will pray for his family. Because she knows what they've been going through.

Deborah Dixon, Local 12.

While the Tammen case is familiar to a lot of people, other local residents remember another story of a missing man... an unknown man. His body was pulled from the Great Miami River in 1997 and he's never been identified.

We'll have that story tonight on Local 12 Live at 11:00 pm.

MaryLiz
02-06-2008, 09:18 PM
Body to be exhumed in Walker County on Friday
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From the Rome, GA News-Tribune

Walker County Georgia Sheriff Steve Wilson announced today that an unidentified decomposed male body found off Rogers Road in the Walnut Grove Community in June 1953, and later buried at the City of Lafayette Cemetery, will be exhumed on Friday at 10 a.m.
Walker County investigators, along with investigators from Butler County, Ohio, have been comparing the Walker County case with the April 1953 disappearance of Miami of Ohio University student, 19-year-old Ronald Tammen. Walker County detectives reopened the investigation the first week of January, according to Sheriff Wilson. By exhuming the unidentified human remains, authorities are optimistic that DNA samples can be obtained and compared to Tammen’s siblings. Sheriff Wilson said Georgia’s Chief Medical Examiner, Dr. Kris Sperry, GBI Forensic Anthropologist Dr. Fredrick Snow, and Walker County Coroner Dewayne Wilson will attend the exhumation. Butler County Ohio Sheriff’s Office investigators are also expected to attend.

chicoliving
02-08-2008, 04:29 PM
Authorities this morning began exhuming the body of a man found off U.S. 27 in the Walnut Grove area in late June 1953.

The exhumation began at 10 a.m. in LaFayette Cemetery.

The remains were never identified and the case remained unsolved.

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MaryLiz
02-08-2008, 05:02 PM
Wow, in another article about the exhumation it says the now 91-year-old coroner who embalmed the unidentified remains in 1953 was assisting in the investigation!

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=110952&provider=top

Stella
05-29-2008, 06:50 PM
Bump. Any news?

MaryLiz
05-29-2008, 08:24 PM
Bump. Any news?

I've been checking his name in Google News every day and so far, nothing. A couple of the articles from February said after they got the DNA from the UID in Georgia, it could take several months to get back the results after comparing the DNA with Ron Tammen's sister. It will be 4 months in early June.

Rhett
05-30-2008, 10:46 AM
Mary Beth, please keep us all posted.

MaryLiz
05-30-2008, 12:38 PM
Mary Beth, please keep us all posted.

I certainly will, Rhett..I'm very anxious for the results on this. Even though the articles from February said it could take up to 6 months, I'm afraid it might get pushed back farther because of newer cases with pending trials, etc. that need to get results sooner. I hope not...I know how anxious I am for the DNA results, I can't imagine what his family is going through waiting for the results, nor what they have gone through for the past 55 years wondering what happened to him.

MaryLiz
06-13-2008, 11:16 AM
Nothing new on DNA yet, but I found this interesting item in the Oxford Press today about the band Ron Tammen played in back in 1953, The Campus Owls. They are going to be playing tonight on Campus!

http://www.oxfordpress.com/hp/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/06/12/op061308campusowls.html

Tranaice
06-13-2008, 11:52 AM
I wonder being that he was found in shorts and a T shirt, if he didn't just wander around and develop hypothermia. The lady said the boy's eyes that came to her door looked vacuous. Doesn't that mean, dazed or confused? Maybe someone had hit him in the head and he had amnesia, then wandered around out in the cold and snow until he finally succumbed to hypothermia. Thus, the reason he was only in shorts and a T-shirt, being that hypothermia makes you feel very hot after a while. Maybe his body had been laying there for a couple of months. Didn't one of the articles say the body was decomposed pretty badly? I pray this is him so that his family finally has some answers and they can bring him home.

MaryLiz
06-13-2008, 08:37 PM
I wonder being that he was found in shorts and a T shirt, if he didn't just wander around and develop hypothermia. The lady said the boy's eyes that came to her door looked vacuous. Doesn't that mean, dazed or confused? Maybe someone had hit him in the head and he had amnesia, then wandered around out in the cold and snow until he finally succumbed to hypothermia. Thus, the reason he was only in shorts and a T-shirt, being that hypothermia makes you feel very hot after a while. Maybe his body had been laying there for a couple of months. Didn't one of the articles say the body was decomposed pretty badly? I pray this is him so that his family finally has some answers and they can bring him home.

I have often wondered about the possibility of a head injury. In one of the first articles I read it said that when he was in his room he heard a sound coming from the bottom floor of the dormitory building and went to investigate. Of course, I can't find it now but I'll keep looking for it. But I remember reading it when I first read about this case. I have always thought that if that were true, someone might have been down there up to no good and when Ron found them they hit him on the head. It just seems to fit that he suffered some sort of head injury that gave him amnesia because of the lady who said he came to her door around midnight and he seemed confused, that is if it WAS Ron Tammen who was at her door that night, but she was sure that it was. I don't know how badly decomposed the body in Georgia was when it was found. He disappeared on April 19, 1953 and the body was found in late June. But if the body in Georgia does turn out to be Ron, who knows how long he wandered around before he ended up there?

I also pray that it is him so his family can have some answers about what happened to him.

Grainne Dhu
06-15-2008, 02:37 PM
I am old enough to remember the fifties; in many ways, it was a very different time from today.

When I read about the blood test, I immediately wondered if Ronald Tammen had a friend or fraternity brother who was afraid he'd gotten a girl pregnant. Back then paternity testing consisted of checking blood types; a specific man could be ruled out if the child had a blood type ruled out by genetics. So a common ploy by young men at that time was to find one or more friends of their own blood type who would be willing to say they'd had sex with the mother, too.

If the friends were sufficiently convincing, the judge would rule that paternity could not be established. Most judges assumed that a mother who denied having sex with more than one man was probably lying out of embarrassment. Not fair to the child at all! but people didn't think in those terms back then.

I think Ronald Tammen was probably the inadvertent victim of a fraternity prank gone wrong. He'd already been the victim of one prank that evening (the fish in his bed). His fraternity brothers or a rival fraternity mock-kidnapped him, took him a few miles out in the country and dumped him there, with the assumption he'd find his way back to his dormitory safely.

Where did the info about the weather come from? Zero degrees F after the middle of April would be some kind of incredible record setting cold spell. I found out that on 19 April 1953, there was a record low recorded in Columbus--of 19 degrees F. Columbus is only about 80 miles from Miami, so the weather was probably fairly similar between the two locations.

Speaking as someone who lives in the Midwest, after a midwestern winter, a temperature of 19 degrees F feels chilly but not really cold. If he were the victim of a prank, the pranksters probably didn't realise just how cold it was.

IF Ronald Tammen was the victim of a fraternity prank, it's possible he was just fine when he was left. He may have slipped and fallen on his own--a sad and unfortunate happening but not one that was done to him.

I think his bones are probably lying in some windbreak around Seven Mile. If he'd had a head injury, he may have started walking in the wrong direction.

On a night where temps got down to 19 degrees F, he'd probably be fine so long as he kept walking. If he had tired and decided to lie down in a sheltered spot, he could easily have gone into hypothermia and died before morning. The ground temps in Ohio in April are still quite cold after the winter freeze.

I think that if someone were to track down as many of the fraternity members from the Greek system at Miami in 1953 and tell them that his sister is still grieving, still wants to know what happened to her big brother and that no charges would be filed, then the truth will probably come out very quickly.

At this point in time, even if there were some sort of criminal liability, I doubt an effective case could be brought. The prosecutor would need more evidence than just a confession and after all these years, what other evidence could there possibly be left?

annemc2
06-16-2008, 01:07 PM
Excellent post, Grainne Dhu. Sounds very plausible.

KarlK
06-16-2008, 03:49 PM
Where did the info about the weather come from? Zero degrees F after the middle of April would be some kind of incredible record setting cold spell. I found out that on 19 April 1953, there was a record low recorded in Columbus--of 19 degrees F. Columbus is only about 80 miles from Miami, so the weather was probably fairly similar between the two locations.

Speaking as someone who lives in the Midwest, after a midwestern winter, a temperature of 19 degrees F feels chilly but not really cold. If he were the victim of a prank, the pranksters probably didn't realise just how cold it was.

Yeah I found that zero degree figure unusual for the time of year as well, I live in Maine and even here zero degrees in April is unheard of, heck even in winter it's considered very cold. I assumed the figure was probably due to media exaggeration, sort of like "it was so cold that night it felt like zero degrees". They also reported it was snowing, which is not unusual in April in the Midwest and snow is more likely to occur at 19F then at zero. If it was windy it may have felt quite cold though, cold enough to be fatal to someone not wearing proper clothing. However if Tamen died of exposure I don't see how a body was never found unless someone disposed of it... unless he happened to die in a flash flood zone, any rivers in the area?

Grainne Dhu
06-16-2008, 07:16 PM
They also reported it was snowing, which is not unusual in April in the Midwest and snow is more likely to occur at 19F then at zero. If it was windy it may have felt quite cold though, cold enough to be fatal to someone not wearing proper clothing. However if Tamen died of exposure I don't see how a body was never found unless someone disposed of it... unless he happened to die in a flash flood zone, any rivers in the area?

There is a river in the area. I haven't checked to see if it flooded that year but it's definitely a possibility.

If you've seen midwestern tree breaks between fields, you'd wonder why anyone's body was ever found. Farmers have been leaving trees between fields to cut down on wind erosion and as filter strips ever since the pioneer days. The trees are often wolf trees with lots of brush between them and they're nearly impenetrable, even on foot.

Someone on foot who wasn't a farm kid and who may have had a head injury could look at a wolf tree and see it as offering good shelter from the cold. They wouldn't be thinking in terms of leaving signs for searchers.

Another possibility is a ravine; again, usually left full of trees and brush. People usually don't go down in there and they can seem to offer shelter from the wind.

I know that if someone had died five years ago in the filter strip around the crick at the back of my property, I wouldn't have found them yet. That filter zone is full of poison ivy (which is also found in Ohio) and there's just no reason to go back there.

Of course, now I'm starting to wonder what might be back there!

MaryLiz
06-16-2008, 10:14 PM
unless he happened to die in a flash flood zone, any rivers in the area?

There is a small river, more like a creek, that goes by Oxford, Ohio where Miami U is. It's from the Acton Lake from the north and it's called Four Mile/Talawanda. Nothing very big though.

KarlK
06-16-2008, 11:05 PM
Thank you for your answers, gives the case a better perspective. Goes to show that sometimes a "mystery" happens because most people interested in it have little knowledge of local conditions. When we try to picture a story we tend to set it in an environment that is familiar to us personally and it can be misleading.

asher1979
06-20-2008, 02:42 PM
The Georgia UID is not Ronald Tammen. So sad, I was hoping it was him.http://www.daytondailynews.com/n/content/oh/story/news/local/2008/06/20/hjn062108tammen.html

MaryLiz
06-20-2008, 07:29 PM
Here's another article from Georgia...I was so hoping it would be Ron Tammen so his family could finally have some answers....

http://news.mywebpal.com/partners/680/public/news910560.html

jules19osu
06-23-2008, 10:54 AM
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=76626f14-83b6-434c-9f6f-51ed96132f1c

The DNA does not match. :-(

MaryLiz
02-09-2009, 12:13 PM
The Cleveland Plain Dealer has a blog in their paper called "Whatever Happened To." Someone asked the question about whatever happened with the DNA comparison between the UID in Georgia and Ron Tammen. The reply is more in-depth and interesting than I expected, with the Butler County Sheriff saying the case is still considered open and treated as if it happened yesterday. There are also still tips and calls coming in and they do something on the case every day! That amazed me after nearly 56 years that the case is worked on daily.

After the link it's the second article down.

Whatever happened with the DNA test to compare a mystery body in Georgia with the 1953 disappearance of Ronald Tammen Jr. from Miami University in Oxford?

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/02/medium_Richard-teinimen.jpgPlain Dealer File Ron Tammen has been missing since 1953.

The test did not link Tammen with the nameless body found in a thicket about two months after Tammen, 19, of Maple Heights, vanished, according to Walker County (Ga.) Sheriff Steve Wilson.

A year ago investigators exhumed the body from a pauper's grave in Lafayette, Ga., to compare its DNA with that taken from Tammen's surviving sister. The decomposed remains were physically similar to Tammen and discovered near U.S. 27, which also runs through Oxford.

More at link..

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/02/the_cleveland_artist_who_gaine.html

Marilynilpa
02-25-2009, 08:07 PM
I haven't had a chance to check WS as often as I used to, and was glad to see there is still interest in this case. I was sad to learn the body found was not Ronald Tammen's. I've always found this case very interesting because there are so many elements to it. It's good to know that there is so much interest, both with LE and the public, in these very old, cold cases.

MaryLiz
04-22-2009, 09:02 PM
Bumping for the 56th anniversary of Ronald Tammen's disappearance, April 19, 1953.

Shecky
08-27-2009, 10:30 PM
Bumping for Ronald. What a handsome young man he was.

If he was a victim of a prank gone horribly wrong, you'd hope someone would have confessed by now. Sure, the people involved would have been scared at the time, but they've had a lifetime to think about it and feel guilty, you'd think someone would have come forward --or even just dropped an anonymous letter in the mail to let police know.

What a mysterious and sad case.

Grainne Dhu
08-28-2009, 06:07 AM
Whoever knows is around 80 years old.

If there were only one person who knew what happened to Ron Tammen that night, I think it's more likely that they would confess than if there were a group of people who knew. Loyalty to a small group is more powerful.

The problem with confessing, of course, is the legal consequences. And recent events have shown that no one is considered too old to be safe from prosecution for crimes 60+ years in the past.

Which cuts both ways. No one should commit murder and then think they are somehow safe from the consequences of their deeds. But there are cases like this, where the most likely explanation was not malevolent but just plain stupidity (dumping a frat member out in the countryside during cold weather) where punishment seems pretty irrelevant after so long.

My sense is that Ron Tammen's sister would just like to know what happened and is not particularly interested in vengeance. Unfortunately, it is not up to the victims of a crime to determine the consequences.

Shecky
08-28-2009, 04:40 PM
Whoever knows is around 80 years old.

If there were only one person who knew what happened to Ron Tammen that night, I think it's more likely that they would confess than if there were a group of people who knew. Loyalty to a small group is more powerful.

The problem with confessing, of course, is the legal consequences. And recent events have shown that no one is considered too old to be safe from prosecution for crimes 60+ years in the past.

Which cuts both ways. No one should commit murder and then think they are somehow safe from the consequences of their deeds. But there are cases like this, where the most likely explanation was not malevolent but just plain stupidity (dumping a frat member out in the countryside during cold weather) where punishment seems pretty irrelevant after so long.

My sense is that Ron Tammen's sister would just like to know what happened and is not particularly interested in vengeance. Unfortunately, it is not up to the victims of a crime to determine the consequences.

You've got a good point about loyalty among a group of people, especially when they share a common dark secret.

But these men have had a lifetime to mature and think about what happened, they have raised families of their own, they probably have grandsons who are the age Ronald was when he vanished. You'd think at least one of them would decide they had to own up for what happened all those years ago. Like I said, even an anonymous letter would be very helpful. Maybe there will be a deathbed confession in a few years?

Then again, I guess plenty of people take many dark secrets to the grave.

MaryLiz
01-05-2010, 12:30 AM
I was thinking a lot about this case today, so I'm giving it a bump....

MaryLiz
01-30-2010, 12:20 AM
Bumping....

http://www.miamialum.org/s/916/internal.aspx?sid=916&gid=1&pgid=417

MaryLiz
04-10-2010, 12:05 PM
Bumping...

It will soon be the anniversary date of Ronald Tammen's disappearance. I'm hoping for a news article to mark the 57th year since he vanished on April 19, 1953.

MaryLiz
04-11-2010, 02:31 PM
I'm just thinking out loud here, but I often wonder when I think about this case if the blood test Ron requested 5 months earlier had anything to do with his disappearance, like for instance if it was being done to establish paternity maybe? It was certainly a big deal back then if someone got pregnant and wasn't married. What if someone accused him of being the father of their child? But it is odd that he asked for the blood test. The doctor who performed the test said he had never had such a request before. And it might be a reason for him to have disappeared on his own.

MaryLiz
04-19-2010, 07:52 AM
Today marks the 57th anniversary of the disappearance of Ronald Tammen. I couldn't find any recent news articles marking the occasion.

Prayers for Ron, and for his family that they get some answers in this case one day.

pittsburghgirl
04-19-2010, 02:48 PM
Cambria, Thanks for being so faithful about bumping Ronald's case. I had heard about the potential match in Georgia, but not that it didn't pan out. So Ronald's case is still a mystery. Indeed, prayers for Ron and his family.

Katherinekate
04-24-2010, 02:55 AM
what if, since that road in oxford led all the way to where the Georgia body was found, that the Tammen disappearance and the death of the young man found are related? imagining all of the scenarios possible...could it be that Tammen was "on duty" as an RA and was led into some kind of foul play on purpose? who knows why, but that would come later, if there is any truth to this theory. but someone was making noises on purpose and RA is pretty much the authority in the dorms, the "adult" on duty. Maybe a car parked outside...an act...someone that "needed help"...? no money stolen, all that stuff...well, we know that people do things for purely sadistic reasons...maybe there was a serial killer that preyed on young men back in the 53ish years...?

Katherinekate
04-24-2010, 02:59 AM
i would wonder what other disappearances went on at the time down and around that road. it seems to me that to solve this case and others,a lot of organization is needed. this site is wonderful ...it seems that you all know your stuff! deference to you. i think systematic is the way to go on this case and all cases. modern life is so busy and i feel like the answers are all within reach it just takes so much digging and time is limited. contrast to the 50s, they didn't have the quick communication of today. and though it helps, it is double edged...i think we get lost in all our info, as a society. we have many new tools. it is an exciting time.

MaryLiz
09-05-2010, 04:28 PM
Bumping for Ron Tammen...it's still possible to get answers - even after 57 years.

dogperson
09-10-2010, 12:07 PM
If Ronald Tammen really was the man who came to the lady's door that night, his glazed look may have been because he was already experiencing hypothermia. I always felt like he wandered off in search of shelter & died there. It is possible that this was all due to a prank gone horribly wrong. The fish in the bed sounds like something done just as a joke, not as a serious threat. Some other guys may have made noises downstairs to lure him there & then they drove him out a ways & dumped him to walk back. Sounds like a type of hazing maybe. They probably didn't understand the dangers of the low temperature. Plus I suspect the zero degrees was the windchill rather than the actual temperature in April.

RMIC
11-19-2010, 11:16 AM
Hello, all! This is my first Websleuths post, after months of reading along! :)

I'm wondering if anything ever came of this bit from the Cleveland paper's 2009 update on Ronald:

For example, Smith said he just was contacted by authorities in San Bernardino county, California, regarding a 1954 unidentified John Doe with similar characteristics to Tammen.

Does anyone know if anything came of this?

Thanks!

PFF
11-19-2010, 04:54 PM
Only 195o's John Doe {California} listed on Doe Network
http://doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase2077.html
http://doenetwork.org/hot/hotcase1161.html

MaryLiz
11-19-2010, 05:48 PM
Hello, all! This is my first Websleuths post, after months of reading along! :)

I'm wondering if anything ever came of this bit from the Cleveland paper's 2009 update on Ronald:

For example, Smith said he just was contacted by authorities in San Bernardino county, California, regarding a 1954 unidentified John Doe with similar characteristics to Tammen.

Does anyone know if anything came of this?

Thanks!

Welcome to Websleuths, RMIC. I posted the link that article came from a while back. I have never heard anything about it, so I don't know if they ever even tested the DNA regarding the UID in San Bernardino County, CA. I remember reading that when I posted the link but haven't seen anything else since.

Here's the link again.

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/02/the_cleveland_artist_who_gaine.html

MaryLiz
01-11-2011, 09:36 PM
I don't think this has been posted before, and I apologize in advance if it has. I found a link about a 1954 grad from Miami U who wrote a novel based on Ronald Tammen's disappearance. His name is Walter McKeever and the book is called Dissolved Into Darkness. It was published in 2006. I found it on amazon.com. Although it is fiction, since it's based on Ron Tammen's disappearance, it might be kind of interesting to read.

http://www.miamistudent.net/2.8196/deadly-disappearance-1.1153475

infolowers
02-13-2011, 11:42 PM
I have a thought on all this. Did any other students leave school at the same time? Go home for an "emergency" or say that their draft card was pulled?

I ask because what if one of his friends' draft cards were called up? The blood type, build, and general looks needed to match. However, back then due to lack of technology it would have been easy to get an ID in someone else's name.

What if he took the place for his friend? That he was trying to get away without anyone knowing? Would this not explain the disappearance and his body never being found?

Is it possible to search the Korean War records against the school records?

MaryLiz
03-11-2011, 09:47 PM
Bumping for Ron and family....

MaryLiz
04-19-2011, 12:02 AM
Thinking of Ronald Tammen on the 58th anniversary of his disappearance.

AnaTeresa
07-14-2011, 09:06 PM
I didn't realize there was a thread for this! One of my favorite "ghost" stories from Miami. Class of 2007, here. I lived in Collins Hall my freshman year, right next to Marcum/where Fisher used to be. Oxford has a ton of ghost stories - there used to be four insane asylums there, one is even now a dorm.

I've always thought Tammen's case was so mysterious, because you never knew what happened. I'm doubtful of the fraternity prank gone wrong theory, though. I'd guess the fish was a fraternity prank, but he was a sophomore - not likely to be pledging. Plus, he was an RA on duty (I think?). Although fraternities have a reputation for pranks, they do - and did - generally respect other university commitments, such as being on duty. Plus, I'm not sure why they would play an initiation-style prank, once someone was already a member. That's not really Greek style, from my perspective.

MaryLiz
08-16-2011, 07:56 PM
Bump....

MaryLiz
10-25-2011, 08:27 PM
There's a Facebook page for Ron Tammen now.

http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Mystery-of-Ron-Tammen/184888364877501

MaryLiz
03-25-2012, 07:04 PM
Bump.

Thinking of Ron as the 59th anniversary of his disappearance approaches.

Richard
03-25-2012, 08:56 PM
This case is very similar to the disappearance of West Point Cadet Richard Cox, who disappeared without a trace in April of 1950. He was in his second year at the Military Academy when he went missing.

A book titled "Oblivion" details that case and puts forth some interesting theories, including the possibility of the missing cadet going into the CIA.

Here is a link to the Doenetwork case file on Ronald Tammen, which includes some updated information and several photos:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1562dmoh.html

MaryLiz
03-26-2012, 07:29 PM
This case is very similar to the disappearance of West Point Cadet Richard Cox, who disappeared without a trace in April of 1950. He was in his second year at the Military Academy when he went missing.

A book titled "Oblivion" details that case and puts forth some interesting theories, including the possibility of the missing cadet going into the CIA.

Here is a link to the Doenetwork case file on Ronald Tammen, which includes some updated information and several photos:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1562dmoh.html

Yes, there are similarities to the disappearance of Richard Cox. I had never heard of the Richard Cox case before. Thanks for posting this. I'd like to read "Oblivion." It got fairly good reviews on Amazon.com

For many years I thought foul play was involved in Ron Tammen's disappearance, or that he became disoriented and lost and possibly died in a remote place out in the elements, but now I find myself wondering if maybe he actually did go missing on purpose. One of the strangest circumstances in Ron's case is the fact that he visited the Butler County Coroner in November 1952, requesting a blood test. The doctor never revealed this until 1973, 20 years after Ron went missing. I don't think he told the doctor why he wanted the test. The doctor said in his 35 years of practice, Ron Tammen was the only person to come to his office with such a request. Since he was so secretive about it, it made me wonder if Ron wanted the test to establish paternity or something. Whatever the reason, I can't help but think it might have had something to do with his disappearance five months to the day later.

AnaTeresa
03-27-2012, 09:05 AM
The blood test is really what jumps out at me in this case - it's so unusual. I have to think it must be related somehow to his disappearance.

Richard
03-28-2012, 07:30 PM
...
...One of the strangest circumstances in Ron's case is the fact that he visited the Butler County Coroner in November 1952, requesting a blood test. The doctor never revealed this until 1973, 20 years after Ron went missing. I don't think he told the doctor why he wanted the test. The doctor said in his 35 years of practice, Ron Tammen was the only person to come to his office with such a request. Since he was so secretive about it, it made me wonder if Ron wanted the test to establish paternity or something. Whatever the reason, I can't help but think it might have had something to do with his disappearance five months to the day later.

Back in 1953, there was no way of establishing paternity with a blood test. DNA was unheard of then. Blood typing could be used to disprove paternity, but only under certain conditions - and the blood type of mother and child would also need to be known.

For example, if the man had type O blood, and the child was type AB, then the man could be ruled out as the father. However, if the child had type A, type B, or type O blood, then the blood test would NOT rule the man out as the father.

It could also be possible that Ronald was trying to determine whether or not he had been adopted. If he knew his parents' blood types he may have wanted to see if his own was a possibility.

It certainly is a puzzling factor in the story, but possibly it had nothing to do with his disappearance.

MaryLiz
03-28-2012, 09:27 PM
Back in 1953, there was no way of establishing paternity with a blood test. DNA was unheard of then. Blood typing could be used to disprove paternity, but only under certain conditions - and the blood type of mother and child would also need to be known.

For example, if the man had type O blood, and the child was type AB, then the man could be ruled out as the father. However, if the child had type A, type B, or type O blood, then the blood test would NOT rule the man out as the father.

It could also be possible that Ronald was trying to determine whether or not he had been adopted. If he knew his parents' blood types he may have wanted to see if his own was a possibility.

It certainly is a puzzling factor in the story, but possibly it had nothing to do with his disappearance.

Thanks, Richard. I didn't realize that about blood tests regarding paternity. I don't know why I zeroed in on that as a possible reason for the blood test, but it got stuck in my mind and I couldn't really see beyond it for some reason.

I agree, the blood test could have nothing to do with why he left. I only mentioned it because it was one of the stranger aspects of this case. If he met with foul play the night he disappeared, or suffered amnesia and got lost, then I'm sure the blood test had nothing to do with his disappearance; however, if he left on purpose, it might in some way figure into why he went missing.

JMO.

Hails
04-16-2012, 07:20 PM
Found something interesting about blood type in the 1950s r/t the cold war.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18280343

http://conelrad.blogspot.com/2010/08/atomic-tattoo-expanded-edition.html

Makes me think Ronald was schizophrenic. His actions (checking blood type, using an off campus MD) could be interpreted as paranoid. However, I am too young to grasp the social and emotional effects of the cold war in the U.S....maybe he was very patriotic.

If he did wander off due to a psychotic break, maybe he died years later, unknown....

MaryLiz
04-19-2012, 06:37 AM
Thinking of Ron Tammen and his loved ones on the 59th anniversary of his disappearance.

necco
04-20-2012, 02:09 AM
Could he have gone for the blood test because he had gotten a girl pregnant and wanted to make sure that there wouldn't be an RH compatibility issue? I looked up the history of RH compatibility and it was treated prior to his disappearance. Maybe he disappeared to run off with the woman? 4 months to figure out she was pregnant and deal with it mentally, get the blood test, run off when she's about to give birth 5 months later.

liz b.
04-20-2012, 12:10 PM
Found something interesting about blood type in the 1950s r/t the cold war.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18280343

http://conelrad.blogspot.com/2010/08/atomic-tattoo-expanded-edition.html

Makes me think Ronald was schizophrenic. His actions (checking blood type, using an off campus MD) could be interpreted as paranoid. However, I am too young to grasp the social and emotional effects of the cold war in the U.S....maybe he was very patriotic.

If he did wander off due to a psychotic break, maybe he died years later, unknown....

Great find about the blood tatoo.My first thought when I read about this case was that Ronald had been recruited by one of our intelligence agencies. MOO

MaryLiz
04-21-2012, 07:18 PM
Found something interesting about blood type in the 1950s r/t the cold war.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18280343

http://conelrad.blogspot.com/2010/08/atomic-tattoo-expanded-edition.html

Makes me think Ronald was schizophrenic. His actions (checking blood type, using an off campus MD) could be interpreted as paranoid. However, I am too young to grasp the social and emotional effects of the cold war in the U.S....maybe he was very patriotic.

If he did wander off due to a psychotic break, maybe he died years later, unknown....

I've often wondered if he suffered a psychotic break and just took off. That certainly could fit. Interesting stuff in the articles above. I still can't get it out of my mind that requesting the blood test five months earlier was to disprove paternity, but the blood-type tattoo theory is very intriguing.

necco
04-21-2012, 07:50 PM
I have a COMPLETELY out there idea. With talk of the blood types and military... could he have joined the French Foreign Legion? If he got a woman pregnant and needed to support her but wanted to be out of the ridicule of 1950s society, it might have been an idea. I'm going to do more research.

GrainneDhu
04-22-2012, 04:42 PM
Back in 1953, there was no way of establishing paternity with a blood test. DNA was unheard of then. Blood typing could be used to disprove paternity, but only under certain conditions - and the blood type of mother and child would also need to be known.

For example, if the man had type O blood, and the child was type AB, then the man could be ruled out as the father. However, if the child had type A, type B, or type O blood, then the blood test would NOT rule the man out as the father.

It could also be possible that Ronald was trying to determine whether or not he had been adopted. If he knew his parents' blood types he may have wanted to see if his own was a possibility.

It certainly is a puzzling factor in the story, but possibly it had nothing to do with his disappearance.

There was another reason for a man to want a blood test in connection to possible paternity.

If a woman was impregnated by a certain man, one legitimate defence at the time was for that man to allege that she had had sex with other men in the relevant time period, so the paternity could not be proven (her word was not enough in those days).

If the woman protested, she was unlikely to be believed. After all, she had already shown herself to be of questionable moral character by getting pregnant.

The double standard was alive and well.

So, a man would ask around his friends to find someone who had his blood type and then they would both go before the judge and claim that they had both had sex with the woman in question.

I've wondered if Ron Tammen had been approached to have such a favour done. Why he'd choose a coroner to ask, I have no idea.

Claudette
04-30-2012, 10:19 PM
How do we know he heard a noise? That had to have been speculation, otherwise the last known person to have seen him would have been someone he told that he had just heard a weird noise and was going to investigate.

Stella
01-12-2013, 01:32 AM
Did anyone see Tammen leave Fisher Hall? His room was on the 2nd floor at the end of the hallway; he had to pass by every (open?) door to get downstairs. Odd that no one saw or heard anything. Then again, LE alledgedly didn't interview anyone in the dorm except his roommate and no resident apparently came forward to volunteer info.

Also telling is the university trying to quickly put an end to the investigation. Was it fear of scandal or perhaps they were covering up for the fraternity? All in all, a dreadful piece of investigating.

Stella
01-12-2013, 02:20 AM
I'm giving the idea of CIA involvement a second look after doing some research. Beginning around the late 1940's, the CIA began looking to recruit on college campuses so the possibility does exist. Professors and administrators at certain colleges often referred names of students whom they felt had "possibilities" to the intelligence agency. Recruits had to complete detailed personal histories and submit to lie detector tests, as well as physical, psychological and psychiatric tests. In addition, they had to undergo a background clearance test of AT LEAST 4 MONTHS duration. That fits in with the blood test Tammen went for 5 months earlier, to a doctor off campus whom he never saw before or would not see again; rather secretive. Maybe he got those tests out of the way, then when his clearance time was up, he "disappeared", much like Richard Colvin Cox. I don't hold too much stock in this theory but I thought it interesting nonetheless.

maz1rude
01-24-2013, 05:29 PM
I found a Ronald Tammen at Portland State University:http://www.pdx.edu/hatfieldschool/ronald-tammen

Richard
04-06-2013, 09:15 PM
This month marks the 60 year anniversary of the disappearance of Ronald Henry Tammen, Jr.

PFF
04-14-2013, 06:10 PM
Ronald Tammen
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Tammen&GSfn=Ronald&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSob=n&GRid=26056497&df=all&

Richard Cox
Richard Colvin Cox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kodiak
04-17-2013, 09:12 PM
In two days, it will be 60 years since Ron Tammen's disappearance.

I did find a couple of new things that I found while researching Fisher Hall...

In Wikipedia, it mentions the Tammen case and Ron's roommate:

"Charles Findlay still believed he was alive and the two of them were “very, very close”. Charles was under a nervous disorder for some time after Ronald Tammen’s disappearance and still cannot talk about the situation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_Hall_and_Marcum_Center_%28Miami_University% 29"

But then... I also stumbled upon this on YouTube. It was a local Miami University documentary that was filmed in the mid-to-late 70's, before Fisher Hall was demolished in 78' for the Marcum Conference Center and Hotel.

The film is a half hour long in two parts with interviews of Tammen Sr., Barbara Spivey, who answered the door to the young man the night he vanished, and even Tammen's roommate.

In the second part, there was something I never knew before and it's just bizarre: The last known sighting of Tammen was in early August of 1953 in New York by none other than H.H. Stephenson, who was the man in charge of the housing assignments and permits at Miami University.

The Phantom of Oxford-Part 1

The Phantom of Oxford-Part 2

Kodiak
04-18-2013, 05:35 PM
How do we know he heard a noise? That had to have been speculation, otherwise the last known person to have seen him would have been someone he told that he had just heard a weird noise and was going to investigate.

From researching this case, I, too, have wondered the same thing. If no one was around how did the police and others at the school come up with notion that he went to check out a noise in the hallway or the basement? In the documentary, the noise disturbance wasn't even mentioned, nor by his roommate. Neither the dead fish in his bed either.

But, then again, the investigation was poor and sloppy, and 25 years later the police had thrown out most the paperwork regarding the case. Perhaps journalist Joe Cella uncovered these things when he followed through with the case in the 70's.

I also looked at the actual photo of his bed in the room and did see that he never put the pillow case on the pillow–like he was interrupted or something. Also, after looking at the official police records with all the sloppy handwriting, they don't mention the noise or the fish, but they do comment on the pillow not being put into the case.

Hmm, sounds like some kind of coverup or sorts with intentional hearsay by both the school and police.

Somebody knows something.

Kodiak
04-19-2013, 11:57 AM
Today marks the 60th anniversary of Ron Tammen Jr's disappearance.

Hoping this will be the year that this puzzling case finds closure.

Kodiak
04-19-2013, 11:43 PM
I'm giving the idea of CIA involvement a second look after doing some research. Beginning around the late 1940's, the CIA began looking to recruit on college campuses so the possibility does exist. Professors and administrators at certain colleges often referred names of students whom they felt had "possibilities" to the intelligence agency. Recruits had to complete detailed personal histories and submit to lie detector tests, as well as physical, psychological and psychiatric tests. In addition, they had to undergo a background clearance test of AT LEAST 4 MONTHS duration. That fits in with the blood test Tammen went for 5 months earlier, to a doctor off campus whom he never saw before or would not see again; rather secretive. Maybe he got those tests out of the way, then when his clearance time was up, he "disappeared", much like Richard Colvin Cox. I don't hold too much stock in this theory but I thought it interesting nonetheless.


After spending more time on this case this week, that CIA theory might not be far off as some people think. I used to conclude that Tammen was a victim of foul play or amnesia. But, looking through the evidence this week, looking at the actual police reports and his room in Fisher Hall, I'm starting to believe he left on his own, a decision that had been planned for some time. All his belongings in his pockets and room were left behind as was his car. In the scribbles of the police report, it mentioned the book that he was studying was a psychology book for his class and it was opened to a chapter titled, "HABITS." Perhaps these may have deliberate clues–whether intentional or not, but probably the latter and he didn't realize it at the time.

And now, depending on whether he actually had a dead fish placed in his bed and heard a disturbance outside his room in the hall, is the question of speculation. With the disturbance set aside, let's focus on the dead fish aspect. Receiving a dead fish is not a good thing. If your Italian, receiving a dead fish on your front porch or in your bed is a message to the receiver that they will be killed very soon. The mafia has always used the dead fish tactic as well as the Jewish mafia. And receiving a dead fish doesn't mean that it relates or comes from those two sources mentioned above.

But, what if... what if Tammen was already hired and working on campus for the CIA to spy on other students or a certain professor or administrative personnel? CIA have been known in the past to hire and train students before they even graduate with a degree and the CIA was certainly recruiting many young men during the Cold War era in the 1950's midwest and back east. Perhaps if there was a dead fish found in his bed, it might be possible that it could have been a message to let him know that whoever he was spying on knew about him and what he was doing.

I wonder if there was a telephone somewhere in Fisher Hall and he used it when going to pick up his new sheets? When he went to pick them up later on, he could have stopped to use a phone to tell his CIA contact that he found a dead fish in his bed. Perhaps Tammen did not know its meaning, maybe he did, and his contact told him to act normal, go back to the room because someone was coming to pick him up right away. And when they were to arrive, his previous instructions were to leave everything there because he was leaving immediately and indefinitely. No turning or going back, ever!

This CIA theory seems much more plausible and makes more sense. Look at at the givens of the time and day... it was cold and snowing, he disappears after he makes his bed. The last people to see him ever again were his next door neighbor he had been studying with and the house attendant who gave him new bed sheets. When I studied his room, I could see that his second floor window that overlooked the porch entrance to Fisher Hall was very large. If no one saw Tammen leave Fisher Hall, it is quite possible that he was waiting to be picked up by a contact and he snuck out via the window or a side fire escape on the second floor. Either he was waiting for a ride or he left after making the bed to go and meet his ride at a remote location not far away.

After looking at all of this again, this seems like a very good aspect. It seems so much more likely, than the homosexual/hate crime theory one of the current detectives believes. Not a bad theory, but there isn't much to support a hate crime against a student who was happy, well-respected, talented, and content with his life. As stated above, it's just odd he left without a coat, hat, money, ID, wallet, money, etc., on a night that was freezing and snowing. As for the money–the $11 or $12 he left behind in his wallet and the untouched $200 in his bank account...he had no need for them. Why? Because if he was cajoled by and made it into the CIA, he would have been given large amounts or frequent stipends of cash and they would have provided another bank for him–any bank, anywhere...any of his choosing.

In all, I'm starting to believe this CIA theory. And would explain his request to have his blood typed months before he disappeared. I believe someone on that campus–whether a professor, counselor, or admin, etc., was a working recruiter for the CIA and they set their sights on Tammen and he responded with rapid interest through physical tests, psychological tests, blood typing, and so on... while the CIA was... or had... already done his background investigation (in which the CIA did without the person's consent and knowledge). And it makes even more sense with the way the school officials brushed it off months and years later, especially how they reacted when they became angry and snippy with the Doctor whenever he spoke to the media about Tammen's request for his blood typing. It might also explain why the police investigation was haphazard at the time and throughout the years, and why the FBI never did anything with the case as well. Also, I now doubt that the young man Barbara Spivey talked to was Tammen that night he disappeared.

Perhaps the night of April 19, 1953 was a worst case scenario that happened unexpectedly and the CIA gave Tammen a new life, name, career, social security number, driver's license number, and home–possibly a home in another country. And with that, Ron Tammen, Jr. still might be alive today. Until they find his remains, this theory is my best bet!

Also, check out this article from Covert Action Information Bulletin, Winter 1989, pp. 25-28:

Students, Scholars, and Spies: The CIA on Campus (http://www.cia-on-campus.org/witanek.html)
by Robert Witanek

Stella
05-01-2013, 03:36 PM
You fleshed the story out perfectly. I feel certain this is what happened. Maybe that dead fish in his bed was the "get ready to go" signal.

Kodiak
05-01-2013, 04:06 PM
You fleshed the story out perfectly. I feel certain this is what happened. Maybe that dead fish in his bed was the "get ready to go" signal.

Thanks. Yes, I agree that if the fish wasn't meant as a threat, it was the "get ready to go" signal. I did not come across through research if the pillow case had been taken or left behind since Tammen did not put the pillow inside of it. Anyone know?

I also wonder how many other students who may have been approached by the CIA recruiter at the university? Perhaps, other students who had been approached and declined the offer, were paid off by the agency to keep quiet after his diappearance... or perhaps Tammen was the only one who was approached.

The late journalist, Joe Cella, was so convinced through the years that he was still alive. I wonder if he also believed something like this CIA theory?

Marilynilpa
05-04-2013, 05:01 PM
The CIA argument is interesting, but I've always felt this was a hazing ritual that somehow went wrong. Why would the CIA sneak into his room with a dead fish? It seems a little risky for such a secretive organization.

liz b.
05-05-2013, 12:05 AM
The CIA argument is interesting, but I've always felt this was a hazing ritual that somehow went wrong. Why would the CIA sneak into his room with a dead fish? It seems a little risky for such a secretive organization.

possible that the dead fish was just a ruse...it does sound like he was recruited...jmo

liz b.
05-05-2013, 12:09 AM
In two days, it will be 60 years since Ron Tammen's disappearance.

I did find a couple of new things that I found while researching Fisher Hall...

In Wikipedia, it mentions the Tammen case and Ron's roommate:

"Charles Findlay still believed he was alive and the two of them were “very, very close”. Charles was under a nervous disorder for some time after Ronald Tammen’s disappearance and still cannot talk about the situation."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisher_Hall_and_Marcum_Center_%28Miami_University% 29"

But then... I also stumbled upon this on YouTube. It was a local Miami University documentary that was filmed in the mid-to-late 70's, before Fisher Hall was demolished in 78' for the Marcum Conference Center and Hotel.

The film is a half hour long in two parts with interviews of Tammen Sr., Barbara Spivey, who answered the door to the young man the night he vanished, and even Tammen's roommate.

In the second part, there was something I never knew before and it's just bizarre: assignThe last known sighting of Tammen was in early August of 1953 in New York by none other than H.H. Stephenson, who was the man in charge of the housing ments and permits at Miami University.

The Phantom of Oxford-Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyJuLtshonI)

The Phantom of Oxford-Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z6MmvO6yxcY)

BBM...that is just so weird...what was he doing in NY, I wonder ?

Hilda Swenson
05-08-2013, 08:55 PM
So glad to have found this thread. I like the CIA more and more with this disappearance but I did a double-take at this :



And this is just plain spooky, a painting of Jesus, Marcia got at bible school the morning of April 19, 1953. Ron disappeared that night. It says only "one life will soon be past..."


Wait a second. His sister gets a"painting of Jesus" while at Sunday school saying a "life will soon be past"? The day he disappeared? Huh? Who gave her the picture, how did she come by it? Where is it now? Has she ever spoken about it? This could be very much linked to her brother's disappearance and I don't see it getting much more than a mention. If it is still in her possession DNA could still be extracted from it. I need to know more about this.

Kodiak
05-09-2013, 01:31 AM
The CIA argument is interesting, but I've always felt this was a hazing ritual that somehow went wrong. Why would the CIA sneak into his room with a dead fish? It seems a little risky for such a secretive organization.

Ah, great point... and you've basically have answered your own question... there is always a risk––any time, any where, when working for the CIA.

I remembered after writing my CIA theory post... it was over ten years ago, I worked for an investment firm in the NW and the main boss of the entire firm was ex-CIA. Everyone told me this after I met him. His name... it was "Ron" and he had a business degree. Looking back this man would have been the same age as Tammen if he were alive at that time. But, looking back, it was not Tammen because this Ron had very blue eyes. I never asked how he was hired or what he did for the agency, but I wonder if he was recruited the same way because everyone said it was long ago.

And you have to realize, if it was a hazing or frat prank gone wrong, if there were three or more persons involved, someone is always bound to let something slip or confides to others through the years thereafter, even possibly as they get older. When it comes to a group secret, someone is always sure to slip up––either intentionally or by accident.

Kodiak
05-09-2013, 01:50 AM
BBM...that is just so weird...what was he doing in NY, I wonder ?

Yeah, I, too, have been going over this in my mind the last few weeks. I have been researching Wellsville, NY and it's history. How weird and absolutely bizarre that H.H. Stephenson, who was the school's housing and permit coordinator, saw him that day in NY with a few other men. I wonder if the other men were new CIA recruits as well? H.H. Stephenson, in Part 2 of the video, was so adamant about the man being Tammen when retelling the event. You could get a sense it gave him a spooky chill when he talked about it. Perhaps Tammen was already covertly trained to keep his cool from Stephenson's stare of recognition, and if he had been asked if he was Tammen, he could have supplied new ID with his new identity to prove otherwise. But that didn't happen and I wonder why H.H. Stephenson did not walk over to ask him or at least acknowledge him by his first name to get a reaction? Whatever the case, after he and his wife left dinner, and if it was Tammen, he must have let his group know that he was spotted and recognized by someone from his school and they all high tailed it out of there.

Kodiak
05-09-2013, 01:59 AM
So glad to have found this thread. I like the CIA more and more with this disappearance but I did a double-take at this :

Wait a second. His sister gets a"painting of Jesus" while at Sunday school saying a "life will soon be past"? The day he disappeared? Huh? Who gave her the picture, how did she come by it? Where is it now? Has she ever spoken about it? This could be very much linked to her brother's disappearance and I don't see it getting much more than a mention. If it is still in her possession DNA could still be extracted from it. I need to know more about this.

Yes. This is very bizarre and mysterious. I also would like to know more about the details and the painting itself. The intention of it almost yells out... "Hey, I won't be around anymore, but I'm very well alive... and with a new life!"

Kodiak
05-09-2013, 02:07 AM
From my research so far, there doesn't seem to be any info about what Tammen was wearing the night he disappeared. Anyone know? I find it odd that there is nothing to go by and that no accurate clothing description was given or even released.

Also, anyone know if he spoke any foreign languages at the time of his disappearance? If the CIA theory is correct, the agency wanted him immediately, perhaps because he possessed a vital skill set, an asset to them. Could it have been related to music? What about his hobbies and favorite pastimes that he enjoyed? The simplest things might give the biggest details to the case.

SuperKyle
05-09-2013, 08:35 AM
Wow. You take some time away from a thread and look what happens!
So, current theory is, CIA was recruiting heavily at this time. They took both Ronald and Richard Cox. It is an interesting theory.
Just so weird to think of our government having to pull people right from society to have them join up.
Interesting thing would be to find out if the fish put in Ronald's bed was native to the pond, store bought... what. Does seem odd.

Also, if Mrs. Spivey is correct, and that was Ronald, then that would somewhat shoot down the CIA thing. Am I right on that one? Why wouldn't he have at least taken his car with him? Seems so weird that no one actually saw him leave. If I play a prank on someone (like leaving a dead fish) I want to see the reaction. Did no one confess to that. Then there was that strange noise Ronald heard. What was that? I somewhat lean in with those saying this may have been an accident.

Fantastic to see the interest in this one again.

Hilda Swenson
05-09-2013, 09:55 AM
The lines that were written on or with the painting his sister received are from a poem by Charles T. Studd called Only One Life.


Two little lines I heard one day,
Traveling along life's busy way;
Bringing conviction to my heart,
And from my mind would not depart;
Only one life, 'twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

Only one life, yes only one,
Soon will its fleeting hours be done;
Then, in 'that day' my Lord to meet,
And stand before His Judgement seat;
Only one life,'twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

Only one life, the still small voice,
Gently pleads for a better choice
Bidding me selfish aims to leave,
And to God's holy will to cleave;
Only one life, 'twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

Only one life, a few brief years,
Each with its burdens, hopes, and fears;
Each with its clays I must fulfill,
living for self or in His will;
Only one life, 'twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

When this bright world would tempt me sore,
When Satan would a victory score;
When self would seek to have its way,
Then help me Lord with joy to say;
Only one life, 'twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

Give me Father, a purpose deep,
In joy or sorrow Thy word to keep;
Faithful and true what e'er the strife,
Pleasing Thee in my daily life;
Only one life, 'twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

Oh let my love with fervor burn,
And from the world now let me turn;
Living for Thee, and Thee alone,
Bringing Thee pleasure on Thy throne;
Only one life, "twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

Only one life, yes only one,
Now let me say,"Thy will be done";
And when at last I'll hear the call,
I know I'll say "twas worth it all";
Only one life,'twill soon be past,
Only what's done for Christ will last.

Kodiak
05-09-2013, 08:14 PM
Wow. You take some time away from a thread and look what happens!
So, current theory is, CIA was recruiting heavily at this time. They took both Ronald and Richard Cox. It is an interesting theory.
Just so weird to think of our government having to pull people right from society to have them join up.
Interesting thing would be to find out if the fish put in Ronald's bed was native to the pond, store bought... what. Does seem odd.

Also, if Mrs. Spivey is correct, and that was Ronald, then that would somewhat shoot down the CIA thing. Am I right on that one? Why wouldn't he have at least taken his car with him? Seems so weird that no one actually saw him leave. If I play a prank on someone (like leaving a dead fish) I want to see the reaction. Did no one confess to that. Then there was that strange noise Ronald heard. What was that? I somewhat lean in with those saying this may have been an accident.

Fantastic to see the interest in this one again.

I barely know the full details of the Cox case, but my impression that I got was he just wandered off with his peculiar friend/visitor or that the friend did him in.

Concerning the Tammen case, if that was him who talked with Spivey, then yes, it would eliminate the CIA theory. But, I have even more doubts about that being him. Mrs. Spivey was a family oriented woman and seemed concerned for the man who showed up at her door, especially since he seemed confused and slightly disheveled, even without proper clothing for a snowy night. I think is it really odd, a family woman of that time (1950's & late at night) did not call the police after that incident, especially afterward when she learned he was traveling by foot. If she didn't make a call of concern then, why didn't she call first thing in the morning when she got up to report the incident? I just wonder if the incident really happened and if it did, was someone else other than Tammen.

I think Tammen had very good reasons for not taking his car... it would have made him look like a runaway... or in trouble. Plus, trying to get rid of or sell a bass fiddle, he would have been noticed easily and his actions traced. Taking his car and the fiddle with him would have definitely deterred his plans for leaving behind his current life and identity at that time.

From the videos, it sounded like his dad thought that he was still alive at that time in the late 70's. I wish there was more info from the late, Joe Cella. I wonder... since he found out a lot of stuff 20 years later after the disappearance... like the sloppy case work and stuff, if he was the one that learned Tammen heard a strange noise in the hallway or basement? Because nothing is mentioned on the police reports.

Also, anyone know when the book about the Tammen case is supposed to be done and published?

Marilynilpa
05-10-2013, 02:37 PM
I very uncertain about the whole CIA theory. For instance, the fish in the bed was left by a classmate so I doubt this was an attempt by the CIA to send a message to Ron. And I don't believe the CIA requires their agents to leave their loved ones behind with no explanation. JMO.

Marilynilpa
05-10-2013, 02:42 PM
Ah, great point... and you've basically have answered your own question... there is always a risk––any time, any where, when working for the CIA.

I remembered after writing my CIA theory post... it was over ten years ago, I worked for an investment firm in the NW and the main boss of the entire firm was ex-CIA. Everyone told me this after I met him. His name... it was "Ron" and he had a business degree. Looking back this man would have been the same age as Tammen if he were alive at that time. But, looking back, it was not Tammen because this Ron had very blue eyes. I never asked how he was hired or what he did for the agency, but I wonder if he was recruited the same way because everyone said it was long ago.

And you have to realize, if it was a hazing or frat prank gone wrong, if there were three or more persons involved, someone is always bound to let something slip or confides to others through the years thereafter, even possibly as they get older. When it comes to a group secret, someone is always sure to slip up––either intentionally or by accident.

I'm totally unconvinced by the CIA argument, sorry.

I never said there were three or more people involved, if this was a hazing incident. I've always wondered about Ron's roommate who apparently had a breakdown of sorts after Ron disappeared. What did he know that weighed so heavily that he couldn't deal with it? Something seems odd about that IMO.

Kodiak
05-10-2013, 03:38 PM
I very uncertain about the whole CIA theory. For instance, the fish in the bed was left by a classmate so I doubt this was an attempt by the CIA to send a message to Ron. And I don't believe the CIA requires their agents to leave their loved ones behind with no explanation. JMO.

Janice Pennington (formerly of the Price Is Right tv game show) married husband Fritz Stammberger in 1974. A year later, he went a solo mountain climbing expedition in Pakistan and was never seen or heard from again. His body was never found. Through the years, she thought that he was still alive and with the help of her new husband (long after Stammberger), they found in 1992 that he actually died fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They also found out he was helping building bases for the CIA in that region. Pennington and her current husband believed he was a spy for the CIA, although that the agency did not confirm or deny it, but stated that any information given would jeopardize their intelligence operations. It was after that Pennington wrote the book about his disappearance and death in the book, Husband, Lover, Spy." So yes, it's possible that anyone with family and a spouse can disappear without notice while in the CIA.

Kodiak
05-10-2013, 03:52 PM
I'm totally unconvinced by the CIA argument, sorry.

I never said there were three or more people involved, if this was a hazing incident. I've always wondered about Ron's roommate who apparently had a breakdown of sorts after Ron disappeared. What did he know that weighed so heavily that he couldn't deal with it? Something seems odd about that IMO.

No, I wasn't insinuating that you mentioned three or more people, I was just stating the possibility in regards to a frat prank gone wrong or a hazing ritual because usually they are done as a group rather than one lone individual.

So is it official and totally confirmed that a student placed the dead fish in his bed? I haven't come across anything mentioning this. I think the fish and noise heard at this point are still pure speculation.

As for his roommate, yes, that is odd. But, in the video interview in 1978, he seemed calm all those years later. But, his nervousness and uneasiness about the case afterward is very perplexing. I wonder if he was like that right away or if it started days later when Tammen was officially declared missing?

Marilynilpa
05-10-2013, 04:22 PM
No, I wasn't insinuating that you mentioned three or more people, I was just stating the possibility in regards to a frat prank gone wrong or a hazing ritual because usually they are done as a group rather than one lone individual.

So is it official and totally confirmed that a student placed the dead fish in his bed? I haven't come across anything mentioning this. I think the fish and noise heard at this point are still pure speculation.

As for his roommate, yes, that is odd. But, in the video interview in 1978, he seemed calm all those years later. But, his nervousness and uneasiness about the case afterward is very perplexing. I wonder if he was like that right away or if it started days later when Tammen was officially declared missing?

Regarding the fish, I read it in an article on the Ron Tammen FB page. I haven't searched MSM for confirmation, so the whole fish in the bed story could be nothing but rumor.

I'm not sure when his roommate's odd behavior began, but it seems possible IMO that it was a result of Ron's disappearance. I'll see if I can find any MSM articles about it.

Thanks to my friend and fellow WSer Mary Beth for giving me the link to the Mystery of Ron Tammen FB page - https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Mystery-of-Ron-Tammen/184888364877501?fref=ts

Marilynilpa
05-10-2013, 04:27 PM
Janice Pennington (formerly of the Price Is Right tv game show) married husband Fritz Stammberger in 1974. A year later, he went a solo mountain climbing expedition in Pakistan and was never seen or heard from again. His body was never found. Through the years, she thought that he was still alive and with the help of her new husband (long after Stammberger), they found in 1992 that he actually died fighting the Russians in Afghanistan. They also found out he was helping building bases for the CIA in that region. Pennington and her current husband believed he was a spy for the CIA, although that the agency did not confirm or deny it, but stated that any information given would jeopardize their intelligence operations. It was after that Pennington wrote the book about his disappearance and death in the book, Husband, Lover, Spy." So yes, it's possible that anyone with family and a spouse can disappear without notice while in the CIA.

Oh, I'm sure an adult can disappear without notice while in the CIA. But I don't believe the CIA would require such a sacrifice from a newly-recruited college student. JMO.

Marilynilpa
05-10-2013, 05:35 PM
I wonder why the coroner waited so long to come forward with the blood test info?

In 1973, the Butler County Coroner revealed that Tammen had visited his office, seeking a blood test, five months to the day before his disappearance. The Coroner claimed that, in his 35 years of practice, Ronald Tammen was the only person to visit his office with such a request.

http://www.miamialum.org/s/916/interior-3-col.aspx?pgid=417&gid=1

Stella
05-10-2013, 10:07 PM
A few things I'm not clear on-how do we know Tammen heard a suspicious noise outside his room, he had to have told someone but who? I thought the Butler County coroner came forward with his info within days or months after Tammen disappeared.

liz b.
05-12-2013, 01:53 AM
Oh, I'm sure an adult can disappear without notice while in the CIA. But I don't believe the CIA would require such a sacrifice from a newly-recruited college student. JMO.

This was a different place,almost a different country back then...the Cold War was very real ...especially in the view of CIA...

Kodiak
05-30-2013, 01:38 PM
New web and print flyers (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=469612083124823&set=a.469610709791627.1073741829.469602713125760&type=1&theater) for Ron Tammen, Jr.

ilovemew
01-02-2014, 02:46 AM
Wow! I should be in bed but I can't stop googling about this case. Fascinating reading, too bad the links to the photos are no longer valid.

MaryLiz
01-26-2014, 01:35 PM
It says in the article below that his sister Marcia contacted an organization in Philadelphia to look into Ron's case. It's probably the Vidocq Society. The article is from 2011. I wonder if anything ever came of that.

I keep going back to the blood test in this case. It just seems strange to go to a doctor out of the blue, especially a county coroner, and request a blood test. I've always had paternity in the back of my mind for a possible reason for the blood test. The article below mentions a few possible reasons for getting the blood test. "Tammen could have had his blood typed in 1953 for a number of reasons including an expected surgery, paternity reasons, if he was applying for something maybe a marriage license – or planning to donate blood." (BBM).

However, Richard pointed out in a post from 3/28/2012, post #96 on page 4 of this thread, that back then, paternity could not be established with a blood test, only disproved. So many baffling questions in this case.


http://www.miamistudent.net/news/trail-to-the-truth-the-ron-tammen-mystery-58-years-later-1.2188695#.UuVDZzYo6LA

dogperson
01-26-2014, 09:04 PM
Without DNA they couldn't prove paternity, but it's possible a girl he had dated came forward and claimed he was the father of a baby, although you'd think that would maybe have been known by someone close to him, at least after he disappeared. The girl would surely have been looking for him if she was trying to get child support.

What other reasons could he have been needing to determine his blood type? Don't they type your blood for you when you give blood? I don't think they just take your word for it, do they, because that could cost the life of a person who received blood inaccurately typed. I suppose it isn't possible he was trying to determine his own paternity?

Stella
01-28-2014, 08:13 PM
Without DNA they couldn't prove paternity, but it's possible a girl he had dated came forward and claimed he was the father of a baby, although you'd think that would maybe have been known by someone close to him, at least after he disappeared. The girl would surely have been looking for him if she was trying to get child support.

What other reasons could he have been needing to determine his blood type? Don't they type your blood for you when you give blood? I don't think they just take your word for it, do they, because that could cost the life of a person who received blood inaccurately typed. I suppose it isn't possible he was trying to determine his own paternity?

That last idea is a good one except for the fact that Tammen was the spitting image of his dad. Check it out on the documentary on YT, his dad is interviewed in depth.

Archangel85
01-29-2014, 08:59 AM
Reading all 6 pages from this topic it still baffles me how someone could just dissapeared at night like that. The HIPPA rules did not exist on the 50's, did they looked at the doctor's notes? were the results ready the same day or did he picked them up at a later time? Did the witness saw the possible man walk away or did he dissapeared into the night?

There was a similar case in Puerto Rico: A 31 year old man dissapeared from his home and he was shirtless without his wallet and car because some guys went to his house and asked if he could come out.

dogperson
01-29-2014, 09:45 PM
That last idea is a good one except for the fact that Tammen was the spitting image of his dad. Check it out on the documentary on YT, his dad is interviewed in depth.

I had missed seeing the documentary, guess that blows that idea out of the water! Thanks though, one less thing I have to wonder about.

dogperson
01-29-2014, 09:49 PM
Okay, here's another thought. Suppose some girl came to him claiming he was the father of her baby. So he goes to get his blood typed. Maybe his blood type doesn't jive with the baby's blood type or something so he tells her he can't be the father. Suppose this girl's brother/dad/etc believes Tammen is the father and comes over to rough him up and make him take responsibility, but instead something goes wrong and he dies, the brother/dad hides the crime. Probably I'm grasping at straws here.

MaryLiz
04-23-2014, 09:48 PM
Bumping for Ron, now just past the 61st anniversary of his disappearance.

Kodiak
04-23-2014, 09:55 PM
Bumping for Ron, now just past the 61st anniversary of his disappearance.

Yes. Thought about him and the anniversary a few days ago. Anyone have any new info on the case?

Is the rumored book about the case still coming out? I think it was a female author who was, or did, attend Miami University.

Pink Panther
04-24-2014, 07:39 PM
A great article about this case:

http://www.miamistudent.net/news/trail-to-the-truth-the-ron-tammen-mystery-58-years-later-1.2188695#.U1mgkKVkFFJ

ETA - I have been going nuts trying to find the article that mentioned he had a warrant out for a speeding ticket he got in March of 1953; just prior to his disappearance. Does anyone remember this or where I might have read it???

Pink Panther
04-24-2014, 08:48 PM
Do we know what happened to the girlfriend at Indiana University? Why is it that she is never named? Was she questioned about any troubles they might have had? Did she help search for him? Did they even try to locate her?

Pink Panther
04-24-2014, 09:44 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here…Maybe he accidentally killed someone and type O blood was found at the scene? Maybe it was such a strange situation that he didn't feel that he could confide in his family and he feared the repercussions?

The reporter who followed this case for decades as well as many of his close friends and relatives could not initially believe that he would leave of his own accord but all seem to have come to that possible conclusion over time.

Maybe something terrible happened and he just couldn't find a way out of it?

Kodiak
04-24-2014, 10:44 PM
A great article about this case:

http://www.miamistudent.net/news/trail-to-the-truth-the-ron-tammen-mystery-58-years-later-1.2188695#.U1mgkKVkFFJ

ETA - I have been going nuts trying to find the article that mentioned he had a warrant out for a speeding ticket he got in March of 1953; just prior to his disappearance. Does anyone remember this or where I might have read it???

Good article. I'm still sticking to the CIA theory!

Yeah, I remember there was something, too, stating how he got a speeding ticket the week prior he vanished. It was in one of the articles. And if my memory serves correctly, I remember seeing the actual ticket in a photo or article online. I remember seeing it from the actual photos of his dorm showing his bed, desk, and window.

Kodiak
04-24-2014, 10:48 PM
Do we know what happened to the girlfriend at Indiana University? Why is it that she is never named? Was she questioned about any troubles they might have had? Did she help search for him? Did they even try to locate her?

I have not ever come across any further info on the girlfriend. Since the investigation was lackluster from the beginning, I wonder if the police back then even made any attempts to seek her out, if she, or the relationship even existed. No name of girl was even mentioned, nor was there info stating she was questioned.

Kodiak
04-24-2014, 10:52 PM
I'm going to go out on a limb here…Maybe he accidentally killed someone and type O blood was found at the scene? Maybe it was such a strange situation that he didn't feel that he could confide in his family and he feared the repercussions?

The reporter who followed this case for decades as well as many of his close friends and relatives could not initially believe that he would leave of his own accord but all seem to have come to that possible conclusion over time.

Maybe something terrible happened and he just couldn't find a way out of it?

That, too, is very possible. But, if he did commit a crime, willingly or unwillingly, and type O blood was found, then the crime would have point to Tammen immediately. I just believe that he did leave on his own accord, desire, and choosing, and it was all planned and clandestine.

Kodiak
04-24-2014, 11:18 PM
A great article about this case:

http://www.miamistudent.net/news/trail-to-the-truth-the-ron-tammen-mystery-58-years-later-1.2188695#.U1mgkKVkFFJ

On page 2 of the article, it states:
Smith said if DNA from another individual matched that of Tammen's in the future, the case could potentially be solved.

"If in the event that Tammen show up anywhere where he would have his DNA entered or a sibling, child, whatever … we would be able to have a lead on it," Smith said.

The DNA from Marcia Tammen would have a certain amount the same as Ron's, and if he has a child, his or the child's DNA would come up as a match, according to Smith. Some reasons an individual may have DNA taken would be for arrest records, some aspects of government work and the military.

Since the last couple of years, law enforcement, especially the FBI, have been listing unidentified persons DNA on Ancestory.com with hope that one day the DNA will match the victims' possible family members and their offspring through genealogy interests. I wonder if Tammen's sister's DNA is now on Ancestory.com? It's quite possible there would be a DNA match and link to someone, not just domestically here in the U.S., but more so internationally.

Stella
04-25-2014, 08:52 PM
On page 2 of the article, it states:

Since the last couple of years, law enforcement, especially the FBI, have been listing unidentified persons DNA on Ancestory.com with hope that one day the DNA will match the victims' possible family members and their offspring through genealogy interests. I wonder if Tammen's sister's DNA is now on Ancestory.com? It's quite possible there would be a DNA match and link to someone, not just domestically here in the U.S., but more so internationally.

Since, like you, I believe in the CIA theory , it could be that it's INTENDED no one should EVER find out what became of Tammen. For some reason, in cases similar to this, like the Army intelligence guy who disappeared and Richard Colvin Cox, they won't let the families know anything, even through Freedom of Info Act; not even more than half a century later.

Pink Panther
04-29-2014, 11:38 PM
That, too, is very possible. But, if he did commit a crime, willingly or unwillingly, and type O blood was found, then the crime would have point to Tammen immediately. I just believe that he did leave on his own accord, desire, and choosing, and it was all planned and clandestine.

Why would it point to him immediately? It's a common blood type.

Pink Panther
04-29-2014, 11:39 PM
Since, like you, I believe in the CIA theory , it could be that it's INTENDED no one should EVER find out what became of Tammen. For some reason, in cases similar to this, like the Army intelligence guy who disappeared and Richard Colvin Cox, they won't let the families know anything, even through Freedom of Info Act; not even more than half a century later.

I can't buy into the CIA thing…For Ronald or for Richard. I think they met with foul play but that they might have kept secret the part of their lives that would allow one to sort out what happened to them.

moo

MysteryMaven
05-01-2014, 03:38 PM
This is really a strange and fascinating case.
I'm stuck on the fish prank. Who put it there and why? How much were the fraternity members scrutinized? In one of the articles it is mentioned that all residents of the dorm from the time Ron went missing were interviewed, but it didn't mention anyone from the fraternity.
I could see Ron going to check on a noise and he is grabbed by a frat brother as a prank. But dorms are generally busy places and you would think someone would have seen or heard this.
Also, what was the sign in and out policy at the time? I wonder if any sort of sign in sheet was looked at to show who was visiting the dorm at the time.
What I find especially interesting is that the dorm was later torn down and a new building was built there. No bones or remains were found-not that they were looking for something like that, but he definitely had not been trapped somewhere in the building.
The CIA theory is plausible given the times, but I feel like they would have concocted a story for Ron to tell everyone and then he would have packed up and left. It seems very off that the CIA would tell him to walk out of his dorm in the middle of studying. Wonder if there were any strange cars or people seen around campus that night.
Also, it's very weird that Ron would go to a county coroner to get his blood type checked. Why not just visit a general practitioner? Why the coroner?
By all accounts Ron was a solid guy, but perhaps he was becoming mentally unsound and stressed due to schoolwork and possibly being drafted. Maybe he just cracked and left?

dogperson
05-02-2014, 01:09 PM
I don't know much about military medical requirements, but during the draft, could you be classified as 4F if you had a rare blood type? It would be difficult to give you a blood transfusion if you were wounded. I am at work and don't have time to look back thru the thread, but do we know if he was keeping his grades up? Maybe he feared flunking out and being eligible for the draft and hoped to have a rare blood type that would exclude him.

Faithandhope
07-09-2014, 10:23 AM
New here, but I can't find actual confirmation of the fish thing or the noises outside his room. I'm assuming the fish part of the story came from the cleaning lady/laundress? Did he actually talk to her or was she even there? So much detail is lost on this case.

Since the missing pillowcase is fact, I'm going with a fraternity prank (pillowcase over head for fake kidnapping) or an intentional departure in which he put his belongings in the pillow case. Taking his suitcase could have IDed him, and if he did leave intentionally he didn't want to be found.

I'd put more money on the fraternity bit. If I had to take some wild guesses and connect dots, I'd say that either someone put the fish in his bed so that he had to go get another set of sheets (for the pillowcase), or someone else just told the laundress that the sheets were for Ronald or looked enough like him that she just assumed. Either way, they used the pillow case over his head. I was never in Greek life, but I have many friends who are/were, or were in similar organizations. Not only are people "abducted" and released miles from their dorm/house, but they are often made to drink a bunch first. Alcohol would obviously have added to his confusion on how to get back, as well as lowered his internal body temperature, making him even more susceptible to hypothermia. His "kidnappers" could have been drinking too. They would all have felt warmer at first and probably didn't think it was actually that cold outside.

Faithandhope
07-09-2014, 10:28 AM
Also, how thoroughly was the room mate questioned? No reason to really suspect him, other than the fact that he was confirmed to be in the room at some point that night and was the only one there.

The blood test thing is interesting, but is possibly unrelated. It would seem that he didn't want others to know he was getting it tested, which to me says he was doing something involving paternity (his own father's, possibility at becoming a father himself, or getting a friend out of fatherly duties).

MaryLiz
09-07-2014, 11:55 AM
Here is an interesting new article about Ron Tammen's disappearance. I've followed the author's "Trail to the Truth" blog, which is very good. I know the theory that his disappearance had something to do with the FBI/government mentioned in this article has been discussed before, and it seems more plausible to me after reading this article.

http://miamistudent.net/?p=15003505

dogperson
09-10-2014, 09:53 AM
I am still trying to find out whether having a rare blood type would have made a man 4F for military service but have Googled it every way I can think of and cannot find out for sure. Does anyone know?

colette
10-11-2014, 02:01 PM
Wow! I should be in bed but I can't stop googling about this case. Fascinating reading, too bad the links to the photos are no longer valid.

You may have already looked, but the Facebook page has many photos...

https://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Mystery-of-Ron-Tammen/184888364877501?ref=br_tf

necco
10-11-2014, 06:43 PM
If it was the CIA, wouldn't THEY have blood typed him? I see no issue with the fish being a signal if it was the CIA, as they likely had other people on campus.

That theory aside, it is interesting to note that an alumnus of Delta Tau Delta (class of '26) was the parliamentarian of the US House of Representatives from 1927-1974. So, there's a connection to Washington politics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Deschler
http://www.miamiudelts.com/alumni

Oh, and it should be noted (in case it hasn't been already, but I didn't see it) that the first director of the CIA was in fact, an alumnus from Miami of Ohio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sidney_Souers

SchoolgirlShamus
10-17-2014, 03:40 AM
Also, how thoroughly was the room mate questioned? No reason to really suspect him, other than the fact that he was confirmed to be in the room at some point that night and was the only one there.

The blood test thing is interesting, but is possibly unrelated. It would seem that he didn't want others to know he was getting it tested, which to me says he was doing something involving paternity (his own father's, possibility at becoming a father himself, or getting a friend out of fatherly duties).
If I recall correctly, earlier in this board, some folks eliminated the blood test as possibly having to do with paternity, because that was not yet the technology in the 1950s.

Edited to add: Serogical testing, which became available in the 1930s, had only a 40% exclusion rate. Greater strides with more accuracy were made in the 60s but that's too late for this case.

necco
10-19-2014, 03:35 PM
I wonder if the blood test could have been some sort of fraternity related stunt like some of us suspect the fish was.

Perhaps he had been given the task of going to the creepiest place he could think of and coming back with proof.

*shrug* Just a thought.

Noirdame79
12-14-2014, 06:36 PM
People don't just vanish into thin air, but this seems to be one of those exceptions where it at least seems like it.

The blood typing thing struck me as strange too.

I really wish that his family could have some answers. I'd say it's very unlikely that he is alive and if he was a victim of foul play that his killer or killers are probably deceased or not far from it.

I was hoping the unidentified body would be his also. Looks like another young man met with a tragic and untimely end as well and I hope his identity will become known too.

I'm bumping this thread for Ronald and his family.