monster.com

[golfmom]

Got a tip that Raven's resume is currently listed at Monster.com. I have not seen a copy (yet)!

Ya'll will love this one ... Apparently, he lists Eurosport as Sports Endeavors and puts his reason for leaving because he became a widow.

Nothing like putting a spin on getting fired for felony embezzlement, and working the pitty factor of your wife's murder.

:liar: :liar: :liar:

[Jess]

Hmm Wouldn't he have become a widower ??

[Jenifred]

Hmm Wouldn't he have become a widower ??
The Abaroa's have proven that they weren't the best students in English, Grammar, and Spelling.

[booradley]

[QUOTE=golfmom]Got a tip that Raven's resume is currently listed at Monster.com. I have not seen a copy (yet)!

Ya'll will love this one ... Apparently, he lists Eurosport as Sports Endeavors and puts his reason for leaving because he became a widow.

Sorry, Eurosports official name is Sports Endeavors, Inc. dba Eurosports. I have a child in my class whose father works there and that is the name he lists for his employer on his child's paperwork!

[golfmom]

[QUOTE=golfmom]Got a tip that Raven's resume is currently listed at Monster.com. I have not seen a copy (yet)!

Ya'll will love this one ... Apparently, he lists Eurosport as Sports Endeavors and puts his reason for leaving because he became a widow.

Sorry, Eurosports official name is Sports Endeavors, Inc. dba Eurosports. I have a child in my class whose father works there and that is the name he lists for his employer on his child's paperwork!

Of course that's true, but I'll bet he did it to distance himself from his FELONY (not Misdemeanor ) convictions. Besides, he listed it as SEI not Sports Endeavors.

[golfmom]

CAREER EXPERIENCE

TechSkills, Raleigh, NC 2/2005-5/2005

Admissions Specialist
Sales rep overseeing B2C and B2B sales for IT and
Healthcare training solutions. I reached 30K of net
new sales in my first two weeks and was able to
immediately add value to TechSkills because of my
extensive background in the industry. Time cut short
due to being recently widowed.

SEI, Hillsborough, NC 7/2003-1/2005

Team Sales Manager
I lead a team of 20 individuals that sell to 800,000
coaches, clubs and schools in the US. I was
responsible for over $22m in revenue and was
instrumental in creating a sales team out of call
center staff. I also worked closely in the review
process and launch of the Team catalog as well as the
sales training and techniques that were implemented in
the contact center. I was a member of the management
group that oversaw operations of the call center and
$80m in revenue.

Hewlett Packard*, Salt Lake City, UT 4/2000–2/2004

Outside Sales Professional (Multiple Territories in
South-East US)
Member of sales team responsible for directing
business through the channel and executing strategic
objectives. My primary role was to act as a liaison
between my business partners and Hewlett Packard. I
grew HP business by managing the needs of my clients;
which include: training of sales and technical
engineers, market development, joint sales calls,
developing business plans, handling escalations,
creating special pricing terms. I was responsible for
over $30 million in Channel Business. Worked out of
Remote Office entire time. *contract employee

Knowlogy, Falls Church, VA 9/1999–4/2000

Career Counselor- Sales Associate
Assisted in development of a new training program,
which included marketing development. I was Recruited
by HP shortly after the launch of Knowlogy’s new
training program.


CORPORATE EDUCATION/TRAINING

Professional Courses:
Professional Sales Series: Franklin Covey
Sandler Selling Series- Internal Training at Knowlogy
MBA Channel Training: Executive Conversation
Associations/Groups:
DECA: Volunteer State Business Partner. I acted as a
guest speaker and judge in 2003 to high school
students studying marketing and retail management.
During my high school I was the state champion in the
Retail Marketing Research Event and competed with
honors in National Event in Anaheim, CA.
FBLA: Received scholarship to attend Operation
Enterprise in Hamilton, NY. One of 30 students
selected internationally to learn about business from
Fortune 500 executives and interact with peers for 2
weeks in college environment.
Junior Achievement: Vice President of high-school
chapter. Created mini-business to make money for
school year and raised most money in shortest time
with “People Walk, Hawks Fly” key chain.
YMCA: (Head Volunteer) Prior to leaving Charlotte, I
was nominated by my peers for a seat on the Board of
Advisors. I was also a member of the Y-Rec committee
as well as the Corporate Cup team. I coached a girls
and boys basketball team at the Johnston YMCA.
BSA: I was a Den Leader in the Weblos program for the
Boy Scouts of America
Religious Affiliation
Ward Mission Leader (2001): Received missionary and
leadership training. I was responsible for the growth
of our congregation and the well-being of our new
converts.
Young Adult Representative: Activated our young adults
in church through activities geared towards youth.
Acted as voice of young adults in three church
boundaries




CAREER ACHIEVEMENTS

Final Four Partnering for Success Award. I was awarded
1 of 6 spots out of 120 employees to take a client
with me to the 2003 NCAA Final Fours in New Orleans.

As a Partner Business Manager I have been responsible
for over $30 million in HP annual sales into the SMB
segment over the last 3 years. I have grown my account
sales by an average of 35% and have been on target to
reach company objectives each quarter.

Awarded 4 Sales Excellence awards over three years. My
very first quarter with HP I was recognized as the top
sales rep within our district. I was the first person
to receive the award after only being with the company
for 3 months and was also the youngest outside sales
rep to win the award (all 4 times).

While working with our channel partners, I spent
countless hours with one client and was rewarded by
turning their HP annual sales from $230K to $5 million
in less then 12 months.

As an outside sales rep for the Mid-Atlantic district,
I was recognized as one of the top 5 reps in the
nation and was selected for a special task force to
decide how to strengthen the training offered to our
sales staff. I have also trained every new rep that
has come into the East since I was hired (8 total).

Responsible for restructuring our Team Sales business
at Sports Endeavors and grew our sales by over 20% in
only one year.


Desired Salary/Wage: 60,000.00 USD Per Year


Current Career Level: Experienced (Non-Manager)


Years of relevant work experience: 5+ to 7 Years


Date of Availability: Within one month


Work Status: US - I am authorized to work in this
country for any employer.


Active Security Clearance: No


Target Job: Target Job Title: Regional Account Manager


Alternate Target Job Title: Sales Manager

Desired Job Type: Employee

Desired Status: Full-Time

Willing to work weekends: No

Willing to work overtime: No


Target Company: Company Size: No Preference

Category: Computers, Software
Sales
Computers, Hardware
Customer Service and Call Center
Information Technology

Industry: Manufacturing- Other
Telecommunications/Wireless
Consulting Services
IT- Hardware Programming & Design
IT- Software Systems & Design



Target Locations: Selected Locations:
US-ME-Southern/Portland
US-UT
US-UT-Salt Lake City

Relocate: Yes

Willingness to travel: Up to 50% travel



Languages: Languages Proficiency Level
English Fluent - Full Knowledge

[golfmom]

Funny, I don't see his job as a bike shop boy listed! :doh:

[Moxie]

Yeah, weird how he left that and Cingular off his resume. I wonder why?

[Moxie]

And he specified he would relo to Maine - funny, he didn't mention Cuba or Mexico..

[golfmom]

Interesting how no college information is listed.

And what about a Mission trip?

[golfmom]

I like how all the high school crap is in there. Funny how he listed his play time with the Weblos too. He couldn't even get that gig now with his FELONY (not misdemeanor) convictions.

[terminatrixator]

SEI, Hillsborough, NC 7/2003-1/2005

Team Sales Manager
I lead a team of 20 individuals that sell to 800,000
coaches, clubs and schools in the US. I was
responsible for over $22m in revenue and was
instrumental in creating a sales team out of call
center staff. I also worked closely in the review
process and launch of the Team catalog as well as the
sales training and techniques that were implemented in
the contact center. I was a member of the management
group that oversaw operations of the call center and
$80m in revenue.


(Ummmm minus the money that he embezzled that he still has to pay back, that is....)

Ummm Widow or Widower, if you are going to play the Widow(er) TRUMP card....get it right!:boohoo:


Definitions:


Widower - a man whose wife is dead especially one who has not remarried
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn (http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&start=0&oi=define&q=http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn%3Fs%3Dwidower)

Widow - A widow is a woman whose spouse has died. A man whose spouse has died is a widower. The state of having lost one's spouse to death is termed widowhood or viduity.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widower (http://www.google.com/url?sa=X&start=1&oi=define&q=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Widower)

[golfmom]

:laugh:

Languages: Languages Proficiency Level
English Fluent - Full Knowledge

[golfmom]

Here's a link to an older version of Raven's resume. My how history changes ... :bang:

http://web.archive.org/web/20011216020844/www.ravenstree.com/resume.htm

[Moxie]

Wow - he forgot to put Embezzler of Company Funds on his resume. I'm sure with his creative use of facts he could put a positive spin on his felony conviction. Kind of make it like an honor, you know? Something like this:


"Selected out of all employees to be charged with felony embezzlement, and chosen by high profile judge to be convicted of felony embezzlement. Proven ability to plead guilty to reduced charges, and to earn a reduced sentence."

Whaddya think?

[golfmom]

"Selected out of all employees to be charged with felony embezzlement, and chosen by high profile judge to be convicted of felony embezzlement. Proven ability to plead guilty to reduced charges, and to earn a reduced sentence."

Whaddya think?

I think you might be on to something there Moxie! He could focus on some of his other sweet skills as well: cheating; lying; arsonist ... I'm sure that if we all ponder his experiences we could come up with a pretty interesting resume for Raven. Do you think the Top 10 or Seven Deadly sounds better?

[Moxie]

Let's start with a Top Ten and then we can morph that into the Seven Deadly. Raven has provided us with ample material!!

[terminatrixator]

Wow - he forgot to put Embezzler of Company Funds on his resume. I'm sure with his creative use of facts he could put a positive spin on his felony conviction. Kind of make it like an honor, you know? Something like this:


"Selected out of all employees to be charged with felony embezzlement, and chosen by high profile judge to be convicted of felony embezzlement. Proven ability to plead guilty to reduced charges, and to earn a reduced sentence."

Whaddya think?
Dang, <passing depends to "the Raven."> I bet he about peed himself after reading this!

[golfmom]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=689598&postcount=18

TechSkills, Raleigh, NC 2/2005-5/2005
SEI, Hillsborough, NC 7/2003-1/2005
Hewlett Packard*, Salt Lake City, UT 4/2000–2/2004

So what happened to Monette Information Systems?

And take a look at the dates above! Notice how all formal education information has been stripped. And his *current* resume doesn't even come close to matching his older versions ... that only happens when you make crap up and ignore anything that doesn't reflect positively. :rolleyes:

[terminatrixator]

booradley

Sorry, Eurosports official name is Sports Endeavors, Inc. dba Eurosports. I have a child in my class whose father works there and that is the name he lists for his employer on his child's paperwork! Actually he listed Eurosports, Sports Endeavors, Inc. as SEI, and though I googled it, it doesn't seem to come up on the first page.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SEI&btnG=Google+Search

However, the website for Sports Endeavors, Inc. also known as Eurosports is below.

http://www.soccer.com/sei/about.php

[Moxie]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=689598&postcount=18

TechSkills, Raleigh, NC 2/2005-5/2005
SEI, Hillsborough, NC 7/2003-1/2005
Hewlett Packard*, Salt Lake City, UT 4/2000–2/2004

So what happened to Monette Information Systems?

And take a look at the dates above! Notice how all formal education information has been stripped. And his *current* resume doesn't even come close to matching his older versions ... that only happens when you make crap up and ignore anything that doesn't reflect positively. :rolleyes:Good find Golfmom!

So, we can position it like this:

"Charming, verbally astute sales manager with ability to put winning spin on any situation. Talented at circumventing obstacles, such as inconvenient facts."

[terminatrixator]

Why is there nothing about Soccer on his resume? How about college? I am wondering if Talons helped him with his resume.

[golfmom]

Good find Golfmom!

So, we can position it like this:

"Charming, verbally astute sales manager with ability to put winning spin on any situation. Talented at circumventing obstacles, such as inconvenient facts."

A prime example being his ebay experience lostmyjobsales. Talk about turning a negative into a positive by selling off stolen merchandise to support, not his family, but his VX. :loser:

[golfmom]

Why is there nothing about Soccer on his resume? How about college? I am wondering if Talons helped him with his resume.

60K ? ! ? ! ? !

He's a convicted FELON (not misdemeanor). Pretty neat trick trying to secure 60K!

[Moxie]

60K ? ! ? ! ? !

He's a convicted FELON (not misdemeanor). Pretty neat trick trying to secure 60K!

Especially because his skills aren't that great, and he doesn't show a strong history of staying with any job for a substantial length of time, and tenure is a key indicator of success in sales. So, no, he will not find a job for $60K, and his current position as a part-time bike boy proves this point.

Ain't gonna happen bird baby!!

[Moxie]

Interesting how no college information is listed.

And what about a Mission trip?
Did he even complete a Mission trip???

[golfmom]

Especially because his skills aren't that great, and he doesn't show a strong history of staying with any job for a substantial length of time, and tenure is a key indicator of success in sales. So, no, he will not find a job for $60K, and his current position as a part-time bike boy proves this point.

Ain't gonna happen bird baby!!

Cracks me up ... he's tried to adjust that little date issue and ended up sending red flags up to any savvy hiring professional.

I love how he wants 60K as a convicted felon, with no degree and is not willing to work overtime.

bahahahahahahaaaa

[JerseyGirl]

Okay, I haven't even finished reading the resume yet but I had to make note of a few things before I go on.

1) Raven, you should find someone to review your resume before posting it. You speak of having "lead" a group ... Um, that would be LED. Employers won't necessarily care how you spell but how bad does it look to submit a resume with spelling errors?

2) Are you seriously listing your high school accomplishments 8+ years ago on your professional resume? It might be time to take a class or two so that you have something a bit more substantial to list.

3) We all know that you never did a mission. You were SUPPOSED TO but apparently "changed your mind". How soon before you were supposed to leave did that happen?

[golfmom]

Did he even complete a Mission trip???

:snooty: I'm sure he has some very reasonable explanation (cough cough excuse) as to why he didn't do a Mission.

[golfmom]

2) Are you seriously listing your high school accomplishments 8+ years ago on your professional resume? It might be time to take a class or two so that you have something a bit more substantial to list.
.

And getting a "D" at Vulture University was wise to leave off. :rolleyes:

[JerseyGirl]

Religious Affiliation
Ward Mission Leader (2001): Received missionary and
leadership training.Yeah, and what a waste that ended up being for your church.

Honestly, this resume makes me sick. The fact that he would even list missionary training without ever having gone on the mission is preposterous. Pick and choose, huh Raven? You're unbelievable.

[Moxie]

You guys, wait, Raven left some stuff off!


"Utilized excellent persuasion skills to commit adultery numerous times. Identified key prospects for adultery and then closed deal by using tactics such as consultative selling and the assumptive close."

[golfmom]

Moxie! I vote you do Raven a favor and rework his resume for him. You seem very suited for the job and have a good grasp of his skills/experience!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Moxie]

Moxie! I vote you do Raven a favor and rework his resume for him. You seem very suited for the job and have a good grasp of his skills/experience!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
Why, thank you Golfmom!

It's not hard to get a grasp of his skills and experience. It's all hot air.

I know the perfect job for Raven:

He could be a hot-air balloon salesman!!!

[golfmom]

Why, thank you Golfmom!

It's not hard to get a grasp of his skills and experience. It's all hot air.

I know the perfect job for Raven:

He could be a hot-air balloon salesman!!!

I was thinking something along the line of whoopie cushions and farts.

[JerseyGirl]

And getting a "D" at Vulture University was wise to leave off. :rolleyes:He did that well? Was someone taking the tests for him? :waitasec:

[Moxie]

I was thinking something along the line of whoopie cushions and farts.Although that is pretty funny, I don't think Raven has a very good sense of humor, especially the ability to laugh at himself. He wouldn't do very well selling gag gifts.

Maybe he could set himself up in business online and become a motivational speaker for convicted felons - "Look at me, I'm Raven, and I'm a felon, I'm doing fine - just do what I do and your life will be soooo easy... It will only cost you $250 for my informative brochure...."

Oh wait... he lives with his mom and is getting government assistance. Maybe we should scrap that idea, huh?

[Moxie]

He did that well? Was someone taking the tests for him? :waitasec:Maybe that is where some of the embezzled money went? To pay off his test taker? Hmm.. He might want to ask for his embezzled money back!

Oh wait - I mean Eurosport's embezzled money back!

Wait yet again - Sports Endeavor's money back?!?!?

[golfmom]

Maybe he could set himself up in business online and become a motivational speaker for convicted felons - "Look at me, I'm Raven, and I'm a felon, I'm doing fine - just do what I do and your life will be soooo easy... It will only cost you $250 for my informative brochure...."

For all the get rich quick schemes Raven and his mom have fallen for, I'd say this type of business is right up their alley. Plenty of experience .... :croc:

[Moxie]

For all the get rich quick schemes Raven and his mom have fallen for, I'd say this type of business is right up their alley. Plenty of experience .... :croc:
True, and I'm sure there are felons dumb enough to fall for it!

Raven Abaroa - the Willy Loman of the Sales World!!:woohoo:

[JerseyGirl]

Oh wait... he lives with his mom and is getting government assistance.It seems that life's been pretty easy for Raven since that horrible night six months ago (tomorrow). He lives with his mom, only works two days a week, has his paycheck bolstered by free government money (from Janet's social security benefits?), has free or low-cost yet reliable babysitting (paid for by the taxpayers?), still gets to play soccer, gets to take (although fail) college classes. Is this the way you imagined life six months ago, Raven?

[golfmom]

Pretty easy, but remember, he's jobless (I don't consider working as a part-time bike shop boy as employed), unemployable, homeless, and being supported by mommy.

ETA: Fat and Balding as well. :loser:

[Moxie]

Pretty easy, but remember, he's jobless (I don't consider working as a part-time bike shop boy as employed), unemployable, homeless, and being supported by mommy.
Yeah, that has to be a blow to the ol' ego.

[JerseyGirl]

... unemployable, homeless, and being supported by mommy.Yeah, but he's got no responsibilities. The few that he has he's either able to push off on other people or collect from other people. As long as he's got mommy, he doesn't need a job or a home. He'll just keep sucking up everything she gives him without a second thought and she'll keep giving him as much as she has to in order to maintain control.

[Moxie]

Yeah, but he's got no responsibilities. The few that he has he's either able to push off on other people or collect from other people. As long as he's got mommy, he doesn't need a job or a home. He'll just keep sucking up everything she gives him without a second thought and she'll keep giving him as much as she has to in order to maintain control.
Gosh, that would be a depressing way to live. And hard to attract chickie-poos
when you're in your late 20's and should really be living on your own - you know, supporting yourself.

[JerseyGirl]

Gosh, that would be a depressing way to live. And hard to attract chickie-poos
when you're in your late 20's and should really be living on your own - you know, supporting yourself.I guess that's where the VX comes in. :rolleyes:

[golfmom]

Hewlett Packard*, Salt Lake City, UT 4/2000–2/2004

Outside Sales Professional (Multiple Territories in
South-East US)
Member of sales team responsible for directing
business through the channel and executing strategic
objectives. My primary role was to act as a liaison
between my business partners and Hewlett Packard. I
grew HP business by managing the needs of my clients;
which include: training of sales and technical
engineers, market development, joint sales calls,
developing business plans, handling escalations,
creating special pricing terms. I was responsible for
over $30 million in Channel Business. Worked out of
Remote Office entire time. *contract employee

- - - - - - - - -

I'm trying to verify the dates here. Seems like an awfully long time to be working as a *temp*.

[Moxie]

Hewlett Packard*, Salt Lake City, UT 4/2000–2/2004

Outside Sales Professional (Multiple Territories in
South-East US)
Member of sales team responsible for directing
business through the channel and executing strategic
objectives. My primary role was to act as a liaison
between my business partners and Hewlett Packard. I
grew HP business by managing the needs of my clients;
which include: training of sales and technical
engineers, market development, joint sales calls,
developing business plans, handling escalations,
creating special pricing terms. I was responsible for
over $30 million in Channel Business. Worked out of
Remote Office entire time. *contract employee

- - - - - - - - -

I'm trying to verify the dates here. Seems like an awfully long time to be working as a *temp*.
It sure does. I remember hearing something about MarketStar? Does that fit into HP?

[JerseyGirl]

While working with our channel partners, I spent
countless hours with one client and was rewarded by
turning their HP annual sales from $230K to $5 million
in less then 12 months.First of all, "countless" is one of those types of words that should not be used in a resume.

Second of all, from $230,000 to $5,000,000 in one year??? Is anyone else buying this?

[Moxie]

I guess that's where the VX comes in. :rolleyes:
Oh yeah. That's a hot car. NOT!!:loser:

[golfmom]

First of all, "countless" is one of those types of words that should not be used in a resume.

Second of all, from $230,000 to $5,000,000 in one year??? Is anyone else buying this?

Especially from a DUDE who doesn't want to work overtime or weekends.

AND ... if he was so HOTT ... why didn't they hire him full-time at HP instead of keeping him CONTRACT?

[JerseyGirl]

CAREER EXPERIENCE

TechSkills, Raleigh, NC 2/2005-5/2005

Admissions Specialist
Sales rep overseeing B2C and B2B sales for IT and
Healthcare training solutions. I reached 30K of net
new sales in my first two weeks and was able to
immediately add value to TechSkills because of my
extensive background in the industry. Time cut short
due to being recently widowed.
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Timeline of Employme (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=756926&postcount=4)

On August 5, 2002, SES posted:

I have heard a RUMOR, and I have no way of knowing if this is true, that Raven had in fact been working in some sort of sales job for maybe a month or so prior to the murder. BUT, I also heard that sometime not long before the murder (possibly as close as a week prior), Raven had been FIRED from this job.

[JerseyGirl]

CAREER EXPERIENCE

TechSkills, Raleigh, NC 2/2005-5/2005

Admissions Specialist
Sales rep overseeing B2C and B2B sales for IT and
Healthcare training solutions. I reached 30K of net
new sales in my first two weeks and was able to
immediately add value to TechSkills because of my
extensive background in the industry. Time cut short
due to being recently widowed.

SEI, Hillsborough, NC 7/2003-1/2005

Team Sales Manager
I lead a team of 20 individuals that sell to 800,000
coaches, clubs and schools in the US. I was
responsible for over $22m in revenue and was
instrumental in creating a sales team out of call
center staff. I also worked closely in the review
process and launch of the Team catalog as well as the
sales training and techniques that were implemented in
the contact center. I was a member of the management
group that oversaw operations of the call center and
$80m in revenue.

Hewlett Packard*, Salt Lake City, UT 4/2000–2/2004

Outside Sales Professional (Multiple Territories in
South-East US)
Member of sales team responsible for directing
business through the channel and executing strategic
objectives. My primary role was to act as a liaison
between my business partners and Hewlett Packard. I
grew HP business by managing the needs of my clients;
which include: training of sales and technical
engineers, market development, joint sales calls,
developing business plans, handling escalations,
creating special pricing terms. I was responsible for
over $30 million in Channel Business. Worked out of
Remote Office entire time. *contract employeeNotice the overlap between the Hewlett Packard and the SEI jobs. According to this resume, he was working for both jobs from July 2003 to February 2004.

Also, here is a link to an employment timeline post by EW for purposes of comparison:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Timeline of Employment (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=838354&postcount=22)

[JerseyGirl]

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Timeline of Employment (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=838354&postcount=22)

I'm noticing from the Timeline of Employment thread we had going, things are listed that aren't on his online resume. The post above shows jobs prior to the first one listed on his newer resume, two of them in fact:

1997-1998
1998
Advanced Technical Center*
3995 South 700 East Plaza
Salt Lake City, UT 84107

July 1999
Raven Abaroa
State Sales Rep.
Capital Associates Technology Group
Connecting Point
Salt Lake City, UT 84101
Phone: (801) 531-3887
Fax: (801) 359-5544

Also, between MarketStar and Eurosport, we have him working for Monette Information Systems, which he also doesn't list in this newer resume:

December 2001 to
Monette Information Systems
1 Monette Parkway
Smithfield, Virginia 23430
1-757-357-4875

Were these jobs listed on Raven's older resumes? If he's listing high school accomplishments from over 8 years ago, I can't imagine that he'd leave off even the smallest, most meaningless job experience he's had. So why would those jobs not be listed in this resume? Was the above information bogus or was there some reason why he might possibly have not wanted prospective employers to call those 3 past employers?

[Jenifred]

Notice the overlap between the Hewlett Packard and the SEI jobs. According to this resume, he was working for both jobs from July 2003 to February 2004.

Also, here is a link to an employment timeline post by EW for purposes of comparison:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Timeline of Employment (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=838354&postcount=22)
Wow, you would think that with two salaries that you wouldn't need to embezzle only a few months later!!

[Moxie]

Notice the overlap between the Hewlett Packard and the SEI jobs. According to this resume, he was working for both jobs from July 2003 to February 2004.

Also, here is a link to an employment timeline post by EW for purposes of comparison:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Timeline of Employment (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=838354&postcount=22)
What a bonehead. He can't even falsify his resume correctly!!

[Moxie]

I wonder if Raven would even know who Willy Loman was...

[golfmom]

I wonder if Raven would even know who Willy Loman was...

I actually found the comparison far too kind.

[Justgimmethetruth]

MOXIE - you are making me wet my pants!

People - you aren't reading the resume correctly. You all have misunderstood about Raven's MISSIONARY skills !!

;)

[golfmom]

MOXIE - you are making me wet my pants!

People - you aren't reading the resume correctly. You all have misunderstood about Raven's MISSIONARY skills !!

;)

Was that a reference to his metrosexual preference?

[golfmom]

Were these jobs listed on Raven's older resumes? If he's listing high school accomplishments from over 8 years ago, I can't imagine that he'd leave off even the smallest, most meaningless job experience he's had. So why would those jobs not be listed in this resume? Was the above information bogus or was there some reason why he might possibly have not wanted prospective employers to call those 3 past employers?

:eek: :eek: :eek:

Could it be any worse than the ES information?

[Moxie]

MOXIE - you are making me wet my pants!

People - you aren't reading the resume correctly. You all have misunderstood about Raven's MISSIONARY skills !!

;)Ok - that is a very good point!

I wonder if he could provide references???

Or if they would be too embarassed! :eek:

Can you even imagine???!?!

ICK ICK ICK

[Moxie]

I actually found the comparison far too kind.
That's true - Willy Loman had a job and actually worked for his money. I betcha Raven doesn't even know who Willy Loman is. And that he doesn't even understand the reference.

He'll probably google "Willy Loman" to find out.

Happy Hunting Bird Boy!!

[terminatrixator]

Yeah, weird how he left that and Cingular off his resume. I wonder why?
:laugh:Maybe cause it reminds him of the Cingular Slogan......

Raising the bars?:behindbar

<bad termie bad>

[terminatrixator]

It seems that life's been pretty easy for Raven since that horrible night six months ago (tomorrow). He lives with his mom, only works two days a week, has his paycheck bolstered by free government money (from Janet's social security benefits?), has free or low-cost yet reliable babysitting (paid for by the taxpayers?), still gets to play soccer, gets to take (although fail) college classes. Is this the way you imagined life six months ago, Raven?
Let's not forget his WidowER DATING status for singles.

[ewwwinteresting]

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You guys are hilirious! I've been laughing throughout this whole thread. His stupidity is unbelievable.

My guess is the countless hours he spent with "one client" to drum up sales, he was using his best "missionary" position.....oh wait, maybe he wasn't the one on top. Did somebody say bendover?

[munch]

I lead a team of 20 individuals that sell to 800,000
coaches, clubs and schools in the US. I was
responsible for over $22m in revenue and was
instrumental in creating a sales team out of call
center staff.



The above statement is pretty ridiculous. Raven led an inbound sales staff of around 10 full time employees and 10 part time employees that did not work at all with soccer clubs, college or high schools. They placed individual team orders for soccer teams. I have no idea where he got the 800,000 # from, that baffles me. His group probably did around 3 million in sales over a year. There is another group in the company that does around 22, but he was not a part of that group in any way.

[golfmom]

I lead a team of 20 individuals that sell to 800,000
coaches, clubs and schools in the US. I was
responsible for over $22m in revenue and was
instrumental in creating a sales team out of call
center staff.

The above statement is pretty ridiculous. Raven led an inbound sales staff of around 10 full time employees and 10 part time employees that did not work at all with soccer clubs, college or high schools. They placed individual team orders for soccer teams. I have no idea where he got the 800,000 # from, that baffles me. His group probably did around 3 million in sales over a year. There is another group in the company that does around 22, but he was not a part of that group in any way.

Now why exactly aren't I surprised by this information? Oh I know, Raven is a :liar:

[newkid]

I'm trying to verify the dates here. Seems like an awfully long time to be working as a *temp*.
I'll check with my husband, but I thought he was gone well before 2004. Also, MarketStar is the employer here and they contract out a whole bunch of people to HP. They've had some of these contract employees for around 8 years. HP does it this way because it's less expensive for them. They just pay a set amount per person to MarketStar and don't have to provide any benefits. MarketStar then provides any benefits. MarketStar does this same thing with a lot of different companies.

[JerseyGirl]

I lead a team of 20 individuals that sell to 800,000
coaches, clubs and schools in the US. I was
responsible for over $22m in revenue and was
instrumental in creating a sales team out of call
center staff.



The above statement is pretty ridiculous. Raven led an inbound sales staff of around 10 full time employees and 10 part time employees that did not work at all with soccer clubs, college or high schools. They placed individual team orders for soccer teams. I have no idea where he got the 800,000 # from, that baffles me. His group probably did around 3 million in sales over a year. There is another group in the company that does around 22, but he was not a part of that group in any way.Are you kidding me? What a maniac. I guess what he lacks in spelling and actual success, he makes up for in manipulating facts. :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[JerseyGirl]

A past copy of his resume. I haven't read the whole thing yet but since you never know when stuff of his is going to disppear, I figured it best to post this as soon as possible.

Two things that I've noticed from a quick skim:

1) Monette is not on this resume either.
2) He lists his web site, Raven's Tree, as "experience".

Resume (http://web.archive.org/web/20011216020844/www.ravenstree.com/resume.htm)

[JerseyGirl]

Interesting comment from way back (originally posted by DebC) ...

"Another DING DING moment for me with this guy is his obvioulsy false statements about his present position. Does he even have a High school graduation? He certainly is NOT an IT consultant. Whoever heard of a firm in the US hiring an IT consultant without degrees coming out of their ears? MS Certified whatever are seen as aggresive wannabes, with an aggresive attitude, and not a lot of grey matter. Not wanted or needed in IT. In IT we know obvious frauds, in an instant. I don't think I missed a step here: Embezzlement = fraud."

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The Murder of Janet2 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=629981&postcount=46)

[golfmom]

Interesting comment from way back (originally posted by DebC) ...

"Another DING DING moment for me with this guy is his obvioulsy false statements about his present position. Does he even have a High school graduation?......................
Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The Murder of Janet2 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=629981&postcount=46)

Funny, I too noticed that no where among all his fantastic high school accomplishments is it ever listed that he actually graduated.

[Moxie]

Funny, I too noticed that no where among all his fantastic high school accomplishments is it ever listed that he actually graduated.
That is interesting. Can we verify what high school he attended for his senior year and verify whether or not he graduated?

[JerseyGirl]

That is interesting. Can we verify what high school he attended for his senior year and verify whether or not he graduated?Would he have been able to attend SVU is he hadn't? I know that in some schools, you can take classes without matriculating but don't know what the exact rules are and how they vary. A simple call to SVU would find out whether or not he'd be able to take classes there without having graduated high school.

[JerseyGirl]

Old post from Golfmom in May 2005:

Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - The Murder of Janet3 (http://websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=631225&postcount=61)


"I took a 2nd look at his resume and again things just don't add up. Notice his employers, responsibilities ... where are the dates of employment? Also, I found archived stuff that includes at least one *employer/job* that is absent from the resume."

So it doesn't seem like this is the first bogus, padded, or incomplete resume that Raven has circulated. Maybe this is one of the reasons he can't keep a job. Once they start checking, there's probably no substance to anything he's claimed in his resumes. It's not surprising to me that Raven hasn't had any real job offers. Felony or not, his resume is bizarre and unprofessional. I think that anyone with any serious jobs to offer would see right through these phony attempts to talk himself up.

[JerseyGirl]

Raven claimed in an older resume (link posted above) that he went to SVU on a soccer scholarship. So he must have graduated high school. Unless that scholarship claim was just another bunch of malarkey.

[SouthEastSleuth]

The reality is -

over these six months, we've gotten to know a lot about Raven Abaroa. And one thing always stands out - Raven's, um, "ability" to embellish, stretch the truth, pad things, and just basically lie - about any and every thing it seems.

That said, with this new resume, my guess is that MOST everything in it is questionable, at least to some degree. Sure, he may have worked at some of these places. But the responsibilities, the positions, the salaries, the duties? Maybe it's just me, but I'm suspicious of most of it.

Same holds true for education, etc. We know he didn't finish college, hell, it was what, one semester or so that he attended? I guess we can assume he finished high school, but again, with his history, who really knows?

As I recall, a pathological liar is one who at some point no longer even KNOWS what's the truth and what's not. Seems to me the web of lies that has defined Raven's entire life can be summed up in this silly resume he's posted - glorifying himself, and using whatever words work best.

Monster.com. Yeah, sure Raven use that site. And look inside yourself, and see the monster within dude!

[Moxie]

Even though Raven's resume is a bunch of lies and fabrications, it seems we have to give some credit to the majority of employers who subscribe to monster.com. They've passed right over it, and with just cause - any recruiter worth their salt would be able to tell this was not an accomplished candidate.

The fact that Raven is working part-time in the same bicycle shop where he worked as a teenager speaks volumes about the success of his falsified resume.

[SouthEastSleuth]

Even though Raven's resume is a bunch of lies and fabrications, it seems we have to give some credit to the majority of employers who subscribe to monster.com. They've passed right over it, and with just cause - any recruiter worth their salt would be able to tell this was not an accomplished candidate.

The fact that Raven is working part-time in the same bicycle shop where he worked as a teenager speaks volumes about the success of his falsified resume.
If someone actually did respond to Raven's resume, it would be very curious to know, in the process, WHO Raven would provide as references from past jobs; and, how he handles that pesky "Have you ever been convicted of a crime" question.

And, you raise a good point Moxie. Anyone can post anything on monster.com, or on any site for that matter - but usually one of two things will happen I think - an experienced person, perhaps a recruiter in this case, will see right through the BS, or, it all comes out down the road, i.e., when checking references, doing background checks, etc.

[Moxie]

If someone actually did respond to Raven's resume, it would be very curious to know, in the process, WHO Raven would provide as references from past jobs; and, how he handles that pesky "Have you ever been convicted of a crime" question.

And, you raise a good point Moxie. Anyone can post anything on monster.com, or on any site for that matter - but usually one of two things will happen I think - an experienced person, perhaps a recruiter in this case, will see right through the BS, or, it all comes out down the road, i.e., when checking references, doing background checks, etc.
You are exactly right, which may explain why he has been fired so many times.

[newkid]

It would have been Alta High School, but I don't know how to verify whether or not he graduated.

[terminatrixator]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23779

Case Information Thread:

25 years old NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO 26 YEARS OLD
Graduate of Alta High School
Attended Salt Lake City Community College from 1997-1998, majored in marketing
Attended Southern Virginia University in Buena Vista, Va from 1998-2000

--------
hmmmm 1998-2000 - seems like longer than one semester to me....what's the truth here?

[BirdHunter]

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23779

Case Information Thread:

25 years old NEEDS TO BE CHANGED TO 26 YEARS OLD
Graduate of Alta High School
Attended Salt Lake City Community College from 1997-1998, majored in marketing
Attended Southern Virginia University in Buena Vista, Va from 1998-2000

--------
hmmmm 1998-2000 - seems like longer than one semester to me....what's the truth here?Ah, now that's just wrong! And so easy to verify. Raven, Raven, Raven, one semester does not make two years. Why don't you tell how you left after that first semester with your grades in the toilet, and did not ever return as a student. Also, that mission you talk about, how long did you serve? Two years like most? I don't think so. How about just a few short months. Couldn't stick that out either could you?:doh:

[terminatrixator]

Well there are 149 registered for Alta High School at Classmates.com

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!

[terminatrixator]

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[terminatrixator]

http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/profile/index.jsp?regId=228267391

http://www.classmates.com/graphics/announcements/arrow_expand.gif (http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/checkout/select_item.jsp?fp=viewAnnouncement) Posted Mar 8, 2005
New Baby - Its a Boy (http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/checkout/select_item.jsp?fp=viewAnnouncement)
You can find more info on my website, ravenstree. ... more (http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/checkout/select_item.jsp?fp=viewAnnouncement)

Q:
What do you do with your free time:
A:
Arts (museums, theater, etc.), Listen to music, Spend time with family, Sports or strenuous activity

Q:
Current relationship status:
A:
Married

Q:
About children:
A:
I have 1 child
That's all I can get without becoming a Member. There's a then picture and a now picture and a a picture of Kaiden.

[ewwwinteresting]

As I recall, a pathological liar is one who at some point no longer even KNOWS what's the truth and what's not. Seems to me the web of lies that has defined Raven's entire life can be summed up in this silly resume he's posted - glorifying himself, and using whatever words work best.

Monster.com. Yeah, sure Raven use that site. And look inside yourself, and see the monster within dude!
This has got to be it. raven cannot be this stupid?? I would think that he has convinced himself he is this wonderful, adaptable, responsible, original, untouchable, best salesperson, voted most popular at work, guy and cannot see the reality of what he really is.... :loser:!

[JerseyGirl]

http://www.classmates.com/cmo/user/profile/index.jsp?regId=228267391

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Q:
What do you do with your free time:
A:
Arts (museums, theater, etc.), Listen to music, Spend time with family, Sports or strenuous activity

Q:
Current relationship status:
A:
Married

Q:
About children:
A:
I have 1 child
That's all I can get without becoming a Member. There's a then picture and a now picture and a a picture of Kaiden.Originally posted by PrayersForMaura:

Janet and Rave are registered at classmates.com. He has info posted about him, she does not. Something tells me he liked computers more than she did...

Posted Mar 8, 2005

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You can find more info on my website, ravenstree. click on my life!

Can't believe I'm growing up....

Some of Raven's entires
Q:
Describe your political views:
A:
Middle of the road

Q:
Kind of pet(s) you have:
A:
Cat(s), Dog(s)

Q:
Country you live in today:
A:
UNITED STATES

Q:
State you live in today:
A:
North Carolina

Q:
Current relationship status:
A:
Married

Q:
About children:
A:
I have 1 child

Q:
Kind of car you drive:
A:
SUV

Q:
How do you feel about your life right now:
A:
My important "to-do" list is still unfinished

Q:
What do you do with your free time:
A:
Arts (museums, theater, etc.), Listen to music, Spend time with family, Sports or strenuous activity

Q:
Your dream vacation:
A:
RV across America

Q:
Why you're here at Classmates:
A:
Hoping to reconnect with a friend

Q:
Your main source of current events:
A:
Internet

Q:
If you won $100 million tomorrow, you would:
A:
Change very little about my life, just enjoy the money

Q:
Your friends would describe you as:
A:
Aggressive and focused

Q:
Your favorite type of movie:
A:
Action/Adventure

Q:
Indoor hobbies you enjoy:
A:
Books, Cars & Vehicles, Investing/Stock Market

Q:
Outdoor activities you enjoy:
A:
Bicycling, Camping/Hiking, Playing Team/Club Sports, Running

Q:
How you meet most of your friends:
A:
Associations/volunteering

Q:
Describe your current living arrangement:
A:
Own a House

Q:
Your biggest pet peeve:
A:
Bad waiter/waitress


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[lauriej]

...
Q:
Your friends would describe you as:
A:
Aggressive and focused..........really ? can you give an example?( ie: murdering one's wife for personal reasons DOES count..)


Q:
Indoor hobbies you enjoy:
A:
Books, Cars & Vehicles, Investing/Stock Market...investing what??? embezzled dollars ???


Q:
Describe your current living arrangement:
A:
Own a House...did you let the landlord know you'd "bought" the house ?

[terminatrixator]

Q:
Outdoor activities you enjoy:
A:
Bicycling, Camping/Hiking, Playing Team/Club Sports, Running



Where is SOCCER??????

[terminatrixator]

Q:
Your biggest pet peeve:
A:
Bad waiter/waitress


Should be changed to Websleuths.:D

[Moxie]

Q:
Your biggest pet peeve:
A:
Bad waiter/waitress


Should be changed to Websleuths.:DYeah, but I'm bettin' ya this was before he murdered his sweet wife. I believe he never factored the strength of the internet, including websleuths, into his grand plan when he plotted to kill his precious wife and unborn child.

Which is strange because Raven will tell you himself how computer savvy he is.

Hmmmm...

If he answered the questionnaire now, I'm sure pet peeves would be pesky WebSleuthers. Those annoying WebSleuthers! Even though LE isn't moving towards an arrest, those pain the butt internet WebSleuthers are speading lies about poor, poor Raven.

Suck it up Bird Boy.

[Moxie]

Some other Pet Peeves for Raven's current life:

LE, just in the capacity of busting his sorry ass for embezzlement.
Being a convicted felon
living at home with Mom
Losing Hair
Gaining Weight
Losing Friends
Not being able to hold a job
Plotting murder and not getting insurance money

:loser:

[golfmom]

Oh but, I'm sure he's explained to everyone that LE won't return his calls and are really mean to him. He's completely accepted Janet's murder and just has to deal with it ... that's why it really doesn't matter what LE is doing or not doing to him.

I'm sure this has been a very spiritual experience for him and brought him closer to God.

:sick:

[Moxie]

Oh but, I'm sure he's explained to everyone that LE won't return his calls and are really mean to him. He's completely accepted Janet's murder and just has to deal with it ... that's why it really doesn't matter what LE is doing or not doing to him.

I'm sure this has been a very spiritual experience for him and brought him closer to God.

:sick:
Well, good fo him. He needs to get right with God - God is the ultimate judge and Raven won't be able to bullsh*t him. Sorry to have to let you in on that Raven, but God's got your number.

[terminatrixator]

Well, good fo him. He needs to get right with God - God is the ultimate judge and Raven won't be able to bullsh*t him. Sorry to have to let you in on that Raven, but God's got your number.
God has Raven's Number and the Devil owns his soul!

[bluegirl]

Really I wouldn't put anything into what Raven says. We all know he lies all the time. The last thing I heard was that he was going back to school and he wanted to go to SVU because it reminded him of Janet. They met there and he could be close to her.Again it's all talk he has no idea what he's going to do.
Any employer who actually calls him will do a background check and see his record and he won't be able to be hired. When you have a felony charge it's not very easy to get a job.

[ewwwinteresting]

Really I wouldn't put anything into what Raven says. We all know he lies all the time. The last thing I heard was that he was going back to school and he wanted to go to SVU because it reminded him of Janet. They met there and he could be close to her.Again it's all talk he has no idea what he's going to do.
Any employer who actually calls him will do a background check and see his record and he won't be able to be hired. When you have a felony charge it's not very easy to get a job.
I'm guessing school is his only choice unless he works for a family member that doesn't care whether he steals or not. No decent company is going to hire him....so it's live with mommy and go to school to get the education he pretends to have (I hope he takes English)!

[ewwwinteresting]

Oh but, I'm sure he's explained to everyone that LE won't return his calls and are really mean to him. He's completely accepted Janet's murder and just has to deal with it ... that's why it really doesn't matter what LE is doing or not doing to him.

I'm sure this has been a very spiritual experience for him and brought him closer to God.

:sick:
Usually criminals wait until they are locked up before they "find God".....maybe raven is trying to get a jump on this!

[Angels_Not_Forgotten]

do you think his "finding God" may just be a ploy to get the public to feel less harsh about him?

[golfmom]

do you think his "finding God" may just be a ploy to get the public to feel less harsh about him?

I think it's a ploy to get major attention and sympathy from those around him ... sitting their teary-eyed with scriptures.

[Moxie]

I think it's a ploy to get major attention and sympathy from those around him ... sitting their teary-eyed with scriptures.I agree, GM.

Although I believe his tears may be real. I do not believe he is crying for Janet.

I believe he is crying because he has made a shambles of his life, and he doesn't know how to fix it.

I also believe that he knows he will never again find such a wonderful girl as Janet.

He is treating the kind, Godly people in his ward, including his bishop, with incredible disrespect. He is a fraud and they will see through him soon enough.

[guera]

Although I believe his tears may be real. I do not believe he is crying for Janet.

I believe he is crying because he has made a shambles of his life, and he doesn't know how to fix it.


"Torment of the damned" comes to mind...

[golfmom]

"Torment of the damned" comes to mind...

Well that sums it up quite nicely.

[terminatrixator]

Oh man, to see that bald chubby puke cry would make my day, how lucky can those around him get!

[Moxie]

Oh man, to see that bald chubby puke cry would make my day, how lucky can those around him get!
Believe me, it ain't that great.

[golfmom]

FYI, I've gotten MONSTER reports that most of Raven's resume is a MONSTER LIE.

[terminatrixator]

Monster is as Monster does.

[terminatrixator]

Well any prospective employers, should definitely check this out, since he lives in Utah now.





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I'm an employer. Is there any way I can get criminal backgrounds of my present and future employees? - There are several options available to employers, depending upon their qualifications.

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Isn't working in a bike shop considered working with children and vulnerable ADULTS?????

[HPUtah]

Hello, I am new to this site. I used to work with Raven at MarketStar. I can understand why he did not post this on his resume but he was fired from that job under suspension of embezzlement. Market Star never prosecuted him because they were concerned Hewlett Packard would find out. Please keep this story alive until justice is served.

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HPUtah, I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for posting this and Welcome you sincerely.

Thank you so much!

Justice will be served for Janet.

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One more thing, hopefully you don't have to run into him again.

It is my full belief he murdered once, and should be considered extremely dangerous and twisted and sick.

[golfmom]

HPUtah, welcome to Websleuths! Thank you so much for providing that tidbit of info.

[Jenifred]

Thanks HPUtah for the piece of info. And welcome to the site! (See I do welcome people in who share something useful!) Oh, and HPUtah, do you have any idea about how much money he could have embezzled?

Isn't there a saying or something about dogs returning somewhere? He did it before with Market Star and he did it again at Eurosport. Just got caught that time. He'll foul up again.

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Seems like Raven believes in getting rich quick schemes, why work for it when you can just take it. Isn't his Momma into Get Rich Quick Schemes too?

[ewwwinteresting]

Hello, I am new to this site. I used to work with Raven at MarketStar. I can understand why he did not post this on his resume but he was fired from that job under suspension of embezzlement. Market Star never prosecuted him because they were concerned Hewlett Packard would find out. Please keep this story alive until justice is served.


Good to have new names in here HP..thanks for posting. What would have happened if HP found out that raven was embezzling from Market Star? I wonder if Janet knew raven was stealing from MS...probably not since he didn't get arrested.

So let's see....he got fired from Market Star, got fired from Eurosport, got fired from some unknown job days before Janet was murdered, got fired from Cingular.....wonder what else we will find out about raven's successful career??:loser:

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I think the bike store owner needs to keep an eye on all merchandise tightly and monitor The Raven's every move myself.