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Pepper
09-30-2003, 03:56 PM
Hi all,

Due to forum crash and a long distance move, I was away for the past 2 months, and have now moved to the Fresno/Clovis area.

It's good to be back!!

I am amazed that this case hasn't received national coverage, since the method of murder was so weird and gruesome.

http://www.clovisindependent.com/news/story/7433557p-8351732c.html

Hard to believe that an educated biochemist would think that she could get away with this one!

magpie
10-01-2003, 11:13 AM
Good Grief! That is a horrible way to die! I can hardly believe the things people do to each other these days. Keep us up to date on this story Pepper. I hope this woman gets the death penalty!

magpie :mad: :eek:

piper1
10-01-2003, 10:53 PM
YUK! She sure does deserve the death penalty!

Pepper
12-20-2003, 03:24 PM
Don't know if I should post this here or on the new Bizarre News forum.

Amazing that a biochemist could be so dumb. More amazing is that she had the stomach to do this. The acid was poured on him when he was alive.

http://www.fresnobee.com/local/crime/story/7908507p-8785783c.html

A Clovis biochemist, accused of murdering her husband and sealing his body in a drum of acid, is asking a judge to prevent her children from talking to each other.

Larissa Schuster's attorney filed a motion saying that, if allowed to meet, 18-year-old Kristin would try to turn 13-year-old Tyler against their mother.

...........................

According to court files and Clovis police testimony, Fagone reportedly told police:

About 2 a.m. July 10, he and Larissa Schuster went to her husband's home and and disabled him with a stun gun and chloroform-soaked rags.

They then bound Timothy Schuster and drove him back to his wife's house, where they stuffed him into a drum and his wife poured acid over him.

Two days later, Larissa Schuster and Fagone drove with the barrel to her Fresno business. Schuster poured more acid into the barrel. She had trouble resealing the lid until she used a handsaw to cut off her husband's feet.

Elle Kaye
12-22-2003, 03:38 PM
This is horrible! This woman has no heart. How could anyone do this to another human being?

I was just watching a show where they said that acid may be one of the worst ways to die because it does not happen quickly. It is a slow painful death while the acid slowly eats away enough of the body for the peron to die.

Taximom
01-15-2006, 01:38 AM
Hi all,

Due to forum crash and a long distance move, I was away for the past 2 months, and have now moved to the Fresno/Clovis area.

It's good to be back!!

I am amazed that this case hasn't received national coverage, since the method of murder was so weird and gruesome.

http://www.clovisindependent.com/news/story/7433557p-8351732c.html

Hard to believe that an educated biochemist would think that she could get away with this one!
I was just perusing some of the many old cases here and found this update:

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=local&id=3787048

Notice the headline is "Possible" trial date....zzzzzzzzzz........zzzzzzzz



Here's another headline from 9/05:
http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=local&id=3409858

(excerpt)


Nuttall asked Gamoian, "Wasn't the body found inside the blue barrel we requested?"

Gamoian responded, "There was liquid, which remained in the bottom of the barrel ... acid and body matter." According to coroner's office, all that was left of a 200 pound Tim Schuster was 103 pounds of tissue samples, body fluids and bone fragments, which the defense has received.

:( :(

mysteriew
01-15-2006, 02:00 AM
He had helped her with a previous house burglary, and things got out of hand?
I wonder what that was all about?
So she does the planning, lures the ex to the house by telling him his son is ill, has the "employee" there to stun him and dump him in the barrel?
That "flopping around" was most likely Timothy responding to the pain of the acid eating into him.
The sad thing is, if she had used more acid....there would have been no trace of this guy left. Or if she had disposed of the barrel somewhere, what was left probably wasn't recognizable as human, and may never have been connected. Good thing she didn't know what she was doing.
I wonder what the motive was?
Where do you find things like hydrocloric acid and chloroform anyway? I mean you don't just go to the store and pick that up while you do your grocery shopping.

Jovin
01-15-2006, 02:02 AM
the cruelty that some humans can conflict upon their fellow man.

How disgusting! Did she not realize her son is losing his father? Darn! When marriages go bad, they sometimes go REALLY bad, but think of the kids! They don't deserve this. They don't ask to be born, and they don't get to choose the family they get born into either.

I feel so sorry for the children of these animals.

Taximom
01-15-2006, 02:40 AM
I ran across one post from his daughter (supposedly) (at abc30), but I won't link it here for privacy. She was told by that forum that she shouldn't be talking about the case (in 2003 I think) and nothing more posted w/her name. Anyway, she mentioned her father was abusive.

NOT that that is any excuse.

(shivers)

I just can't believe some of these trials take SO long to get started.

Mysteriew, she must have used her "biochemist" experience to access that gory stuff.

So this acid will eat through a human body, but does nothing to the container? That's so weird to me.

ehmadpotter
01-15-2006, 03:12 AM
Where do you find things like hydrocloric acid and chloroform anyway? I mean you don't just go to the store and pick that up while you do your grocery shopping.
mysteriew, I don't know anything about chloroform, but hydrocloric acid can be picked up and any hardward store. I think it's mostly sold for stuff like cleaning dried cement off brick, but I have used it before for putting a green patina on bronze. It doesn't react with the plastic jug material or rubber gloves. Scary stuff though in the hands of a maniac like this Larissa wacko!

mssheila
01-15-2006, 11:50 AM
:sick: um, this story is so morbid, but I had one question. Does chloroform knock you out? Like.. unconscious? I sure hope so, but it still sounds like the man woke up inside the barrel. ugh.. icky. She needs the DP for sure.

nanandjim
01-15-2006, 12:10 PM
...Due to forum crash and a long distance move, I was away for the past 2 months, and have now moved to the Fresno/Clovis area...
Pepper - I am not going to read the link as it sounds really morbid by the subsequent posts. :eek:

Did your entire family move back to Fresno? Didn't your husband get a new job in Phoenix or somewhere in Arizona??

chicoliving
12-12-2007, 03:42 PM
A southern California jury has convicted Larissa Schuster of first-degree murder with special circumstances.
Larissa Schuster killed her husband Tim in 2003 and stuffed his body in a barrel of acid.

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=5830162

Dark Knight
12-12-2007, 04:00 PM
A southern California jury has convicted Larissa Schuster of first-degree murder with special circumstances.
Larissa Schuster killed her husband Tim in 2003 and stuffed his body in a barrel of acid.

http://abclocal.go.com/kfsn/story?section=news/local&id=5830162

If there was a special circumstance, why isn't she up for the death penalty?

southcitymom
12-12-2007, 04:59 PM
If there was a special circumstance, why isn't she up for the death penalty?

I was wondering the same thing, DK.

Jolynna
12-12-2007, 06:03 PM
Larissa Schuster using a "BLUE barrel" helped me get my brand new blog off to a good start. All the people that googled "blue barrel" because of Drew Peterson also found my post about Larissa.

I can't believe there wasn't more publicity, too. The way she killed her husband was horrific. Not only was he still alive when acid was poured over him, his limbs were also severed so he would fit in the barrel better.

I find it hard to believe a woman so educated and with so MUCH to lose, (she had millions of $$$$, plus a child) would risk everything.

But, I do agree with the jury's conclusion.

imo

Jolynna
12-12-2007, 06:05 PM
He had helped her with a previous house burglary, and things got out of hand?
I wonder what that was all about?
So she does the planning, lures the ex to the house by telling him his son is ill, has the "employee" there to stun him and dump him in the barrel?
That "flopping around" was most likely Timothy responding to the pain of the acid eating into him.
The sad thing is, if she had used more acid....there would have been no trace of this guy left. Or if she had disposed of the barrel somewhere, what was left probably wasn't recognizable as human, and may never have been connected. Good thing she didn't know what she was doing.
I wonder what the motive was?
Where do you find things like hydrocloric acid and chloroform anyway? I mean you don't just go to the store and pick that up while you do your grocery shopping.

She was a biochemist and owned a laboratory.

According to what was said in court Larissa ordered the acid to use to clean her equipment...test tubes, ect.

I think she intended to dispose of Timothy, but her helper got cold feet and said he refused to help her move the body again. Under questioning from investigators looking for Timothy (who had been reported missing) the helper confessed and told LE where Timothy was before Larissa could figure out how to get him moved to a less incriminating location.

Littledeer
12-12-2007, 07:04 PM
Jolynna:

Your right, I came here because of the "blue barrel".............

I'm glad that Larissa was found guilty of Tim's murder. What a horrific way to die!!!

Was there a reason why she didn't get the death penalty? There is not much information on this case???

nappy2
12-12-2007, 08:02 PM
They need to throw these two in the same drum and see how they like it !!!

What a couple sick people

Bobbisangel
12-12-2007, 10:04 PM
I can't begin to imagine doing that to someone no matter how much I disliked them. This has to be one cold blooded woman. Glad she will be in prison for the rest of her life. I can't believe that she didn't get the death penalty with the special circumstances. Did they give her LWOP?

Jolynna
12-13-2007, 12:46 AM
I can't begin to imagine doing that to someone no matter how much I disliked them. This has to be one cold blooded woman. Glad she will be in prison for the rest of her life. I can't believe that she didn't get the death penalty with the special circumstances. Did they give her LWOP?

No parole.

As for why no death penalty, I think, like with O.J., prosecutors are so afraid that jurors will be influenced by people of certain stature (and that can afford GOOD & smart lawyers) they get intimidated and don't go for the maximum penalty.

In some articles the prosecutor was concerned that people wouldn't think an educated "mother" would be capable of something so horrific.

moo

GlitchWizard
12-13-2007, 08:34 AM
No parole.

As for why no death penalty, I think, like with O.J., prosecutors are so afraid that jurors will be influenced by people of certain stature (and that can afford GOOD & smart lawyers) they get intimidated and don't go for the maximum penalty.

In some articles the prosecutor was concerned that people wouldn't think an educated "mother" would be capable of something so horrific.

moo

I'm not fond of the death penalty in general - but I think if I were, I'd probably try to make a deal for life without parole - because there are fewer appeals and less of a chance of things going wrong with a jury. Juries are unpredictable. Life without parole as a "deal" is certain.

GlitchWizard
12-13-2007, 08:54 AM
Let me get this right - he was dismembered before being put in the barrel but they say he was still alive? Something doesn't match up, unless they dismembered him while he was alive - and generally, you don't live much past dismemberment.

I have to say, though, if I had to die and people had to know about it - dying by acid is much cooler than dying by choking on your own drug induced vomit on a toilet or something. I'd much rather my daughter say "Yes, I lost my dear mother to a vat of acid" than some other things.

What a demented way to kill someone.

Also, another I-didn't-have-my-coffee-yet-disjointed thought: The woman was told of someone who killed their spouse that way. Okay, if you are TOLD someone did that before, that means that person was CAUGHT or you'd not be able to hear the story. If that person was caught doing it, it might not be the best method for killing someone.

Not that you should ever kill anyone, mind you. But if you absolutely positively have to kill someone... don't do it by method where people get caught. Simple as that.

Filly
12-13-2007, 12:41 PM
Man, I didn't even read this. That's my worst nightmare. Anything having to do with acid.

chicoliving
05-16-2008, 04:08 PM
A Clovis biochemist convicted of killing her estranged husband by stuffing his body in a vat of acid has been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

http://www.kcra.com/news/16299095/detail.html

philamena
05-16-2008, 04:37 PM
Glad to hear the news.
I was afraid she would serve only a few years and even possibly be eligible for parole.

Dalles
10-28-2008, 12:56 PM
This case is so strange. Though I haven't followed it closely. It's obvious she didn't act alone. There's no way she could have moved a 50 gallon drum, even if it just had a body in it. Add the liquid and it's impossible.

James Fagone had contacted me out of the blue and the reason is still unclear. But yeah, nothing about this case makes any sense.

davehead21
01-16-2009, 11:24 AM
This case is going to be featured on the Oxygen channel's "Snapped" tomorrow afternoon at 12 CST if anyone is interested.

LinasK
01-16-2009, 04:43 PM
This case is going to be featured on the Oxygen channel's "Snapped" tomorrow afternoon at 12 CST if anyone is interested.
Saw it! If anyone deserves to fry she does!!!:furious: Noone is sure if he was even dead when she poured the acid in.

txsvicki
01-16-2009, 09:24 PM
I saw this on Snapped last night. That is one big, ugly, evil looking woman. She will be a terror in prison just like she was on the outside according to her co workers and family.

prd2bokie
01-17-2009, 08:51 AM
Did any one happen to notice who commented in Oct. and what he said? Are we really buying that Fagone called him?

Boyz_Mum
01-17-2009, 09:03 AM
A Clovis biochemist convicted of killing her estranged husband by stuffing his body in a vat of acid has been sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

http://www.kcra.com/news/16299095/detail.html

Thanks for the update chicoliving.

LinasK
01-17-2009, 03:20 PM
Did any one happen to notice who commented in Oct. and what he said? Are we really buying that Fagone called him?

He's already been exposed here as a hoaxer.:bang:

oceanblueeyes
01-17-2009, 05:32 PM
This case is going to be featured on the Oxygen channel's "Snapped" tomorrow afternoon at 12 CST if anyone is interested.

Thanks.

I am always amused how these type of cases get on "Snapped", when most of them are premeditated homicides just like this one. They dont snap and do this. They plan them and then carry them out.

imoo

prd2bokie
01-17-2009, 10:12 PM
He's already been exposed here as a hoaxer.:bang:


I knew that. It's just that there are probably places all over the forum where he said stupid things like that. I just found it funny that he said that.:)