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Desilu
12-29-2005, 04:01 PM
So what are your opinions on why Darin went to look at the screens on Bond Street? I haven't a clue why in the world he would find the need to do this.

justice2
12-29-2005, 04:12 PM
I'm with you, no clue. Anybody else?

Desilu
12-29-2005, 04:26 PM
17 Q. And yet, when you went over there to
18 Corrine Wells on December the 3rd of 1996, you went there
19 for the purpose of seeing whether you had cut screens on
20 your old house there at Bond, didn't you?
21 A. Yes, sir, I did.
22 Q. So you were trying at that time,
23 weren't you, Mr. Routier, to come up with some feasible
24 story to tell this jury, as to how that window screen got
25 cut that evening, weren't you?

1 A. No, sir, I was just very interested.
2 Q. You were just curious?
3 A. I was very curious.
4 Q. Very curious about whether the screens
5 were cut over there on Bond Street?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 Q. The house that you haven't lived in in
8 three years?
9 A. Yes, sir.
http://www.justicefordarlie.net/transcripts/volumes/vol-42.php#4


Such a lame answer, I wish he would have pressed harder on that.

cami
12-29-2005, 08:30 PM
I'm with you, no clue. Anybody else?

Clueless here too.

Goody
12-29-2005, 09:52 PM
17 Q. And yet, when you went over there to
18 Corrine Wells on December the 3rd of 1996, you went there
19 for the purpose of seeing whether you had cut screens on
20 your old house there at Bond, didn't you?
21 A. Yes, sir, I did.
22 Q. So you were trying at that time,
23 weren't you, Mr. Routier, to come up with some feasible
24 story to tell this jury, as to how that window screen got
25 cut that evening, weren't you?

1 A. No, sir, I was just very interested.
2 Q. You were just curious?
3 A. I was very curious.
4 Q. Very curious about whether the screens
5 were cut over there on Bond Street?
6 A. Yes, sir.
7 Q. The house that you haven't lived in in
8 three years?
9 A. Yes, sir.
http://www.justicefordarlie.net/transcripts/volumes/vol-42.php#4


Such a lame answer, I wish he would have pressed harder on that.
I agree. It is one of the things that makes me think he might have cut the screen. That and some of the things he said to the woman who lived there. It almost seemed like he was trying to incriminate Darlie. My guess is that he was scared and wanted to make sure there was nothing there that could connect him to the cut on the screen at Eagle Drive...like maybe a T-cut in a screen that was maybe mended but never replaced. Or maybe he wanted to make sure a certain screen had been replaced for some similar or unknown reason.

The other alternative is that he really did not participate in the killings or the staging, and wanted to see if Darlie had left any incriminating evidence behind on Bond Street,either because he wanted to protect her (which is doubtful due to the nature of his comments while there) or he just wanted to see for himself if maybe she had done it and thought something there would prove it to him.

Desilu
12-30-2005, 12:34 PM
Sometimes I think Darin may have been trying to implicate Darlie and other times I just think he is a giant dumbass who just loved to talk. Especially telling the neighbor that Darlie could have run that sock down the alley in 27 seconds, and that the sock came from their house.

I was re-reading his testimony yesterday and he just comes off as a complete liar. Especially with the testimony about the CPS lady, that was just a complete mess.

beesy
12-30-2005, 12:46 PM
Sometimes I think Darin may have been trying to implicate Darlie and other times I just think he is a giant dumbass who just loved to talk. Especially telling the neighbor that Darlie could have run that sock down the alley in 27 seconds, and that the sock came from their house.

I was re-reading his testimony yesterday and he just comes off as a complete liar. Especially with the testimony about the CPS lady, that was just a complete mess. I think Darin is like Darlie in that he runs on at the mouth. They both talked too much without an attorney. She ran on too much in her letters from jail, they both like to hear themselves talk and be the center of attention. I don't think he's trying to implicate Darlie by saying that about the sock. It might have been a slip or he might have been quoting Babara Davis who ran the path and back to see how long it took.
Have you seen the Leeza show on Darlie's website? Leeza starts out by saying that Devon was stabbed so hard the knife went all the way through him and nicked the subflooring. He actually nodded and agreed with her. This is a Barbaraism that is simply not true. So he's either a liar or a doofus or both.

beesy
12-30-2005, 12:49 PM
I agree. It is one of the things that makes me think he might have cut the screen. That and some of the things he said to the woman who lived there. It almost seemed like he was trying to incriminate Darlie. My guess is that he was scared and wanted to make sure there was nothing there that could connect him to the cut on the screen at Eagle Drive...like maybe a T-cut in a screen that was maybe mended but never replaced. Or maybe he wanted to make sure a certain screen had been replaced for some similar or unknown reason.

The other alternative is that he really did not participate in the killings or the staging, and wanted to see if Darlie had left any incriminating evidence behind on Bond Street,either because he wanted to protect her (which is doubtful due to the nature of his comments while there) or he just wanted to see for himself if maybe she had done it and thought something there would prove it to him. Wasn't there some talk of the boys climbing in through the window to get popsicles from the freezers? And was there a cut screen on Bond Street? Who found out about this?
A thought: suppose he went over to cut the screen so he could say that about the popsicles? It's a very dumb move, but we're talking about Darin here.

Desilu
12-30-2005, 01:04 PM
A thought: suppose he went over to cut the screen so he could say that about the popsicles? It's a very dumb move, but we're talking about Darin here.
I could almost go with you on that if it hadn't been three years since they lived there. I just really can't come up with a good reason why he would go to a home they haven't lived in in years to look at the screens. There has got to be something significant about it, but for the life I me I just don't what it could be.

beesy
12-30-2005, 01:30 PM
I could almost go with you on that if it hadn't been three years since they lived there. I just really can't come up with a good reason why he would go to a home they haven't lived in in years to look at the screens. There has got to be something significant about it, but for the life I me I just don't what it could be. maybe because he's a dumb butt?

justice2
12-30-2005, 01:34 PM
I could almost go with you on that if it hadn't been three years since they lived there. I just really can't come up with a good reason why he would go to a home they haven't lived in in years to look at the screens. There has got to be something significant about it, but for the life I me I just don't what it could be.
I'm with you on this one. Something is wrong here. Don't know what.

beesy
12-31-2005, 12:23 AM
I could almost go with you on that if it hadn't been three years since they lived there. I just really can't come up with a good reason why he would go to a home they haven't lived in in years to look at the screens. There has got to be something significant about it, but for the life I me I just don't what it could be. Well, going over there 3 years later for any reason makes no sense. We're talking about Darin here. Cutting the screen makes as much sense as anything else that Darin does.
Did the current owner report that Darin went over there?

deanws
12-31-2005, 01:22 AM
Well, going over there 3 years later for any reason makes no sense. We're talking about Darin here. Cutting the screen makes as much sense as anything else that Darin does.
Did the current owner report that Darin went over there?Oh, I want to know that also. Wonder what the numbnut said to her when he got there.

ravenmad
12-31-2005, 07:32 AM
OK, I have a theory - - sometimes when your life is turned upside down you try and go back to a place of "comfort", a place that held good thoughts and feelings; just to try and make sense of the horrid event that turned your life upside down. I wonder if life was better at the Bond St house and Darin simply went there to try and relive or bring back that feeling. jmho
raven

Goody
12-31-2005, 10:15 AM
OK, I have a theory - - sometimes when your life is turned upside down you try and go back to a place of "comfort", a place that held good thoughts and feelings; just to try and make sense of the horrid event that turned your life upside down. I wonder if life was better at the Bond St house and Darin simply went there to try and relive or bring back that feeling. jmho
raven
Yeah and while he was there, he decides to sit down and have a loooong chat with the current resident, who just happens to be a DHS worker, and implicates Darlie in every other word. Nobody is that dumb. I think even Forrest Gump could figure that out to be very ill advised.

Goody
12-31-2005, 10:18 AM
Well, going over there 3 years later for any reason makes no sense. We're talking about Darin here. Cutting the screen makes as much sense as anything else that Darin does.
Did the current owner report that Darin went over there?
Well, Beesy, today your brain is on vacation because the DA asked Darin all about this little trip to Bond St. He denied most of what was reported but I doubt if anyone believed him. I think he was scared of being implicated in the trial and the why he did what he did,said what he did had everything to do with that.

Goody
12-31-2005, 10:21 AM
Oh, I want to know that also. Wonder what the numbnut said to her when he got there.
According to the DA, he said all kinds of things....that Darlie could make the run for the sock drop in 27 seconds, that a 300 pound man had attacked her and something about her boobs, I believe. It is in Darin's trial testimony, the cross or recross by the state.

Goody
12-31-2005, 10:23 AM
maybe because he's a dumb butt?
Darin is not dumb. He just lacks self discipline and talks to much, probably because he likes to be the center of attention as much as Darlie did. Maybe even more if the truth be known. Darin has just learned to use the country boy bumpkin to his advantage, esp in this case.

Goody
12-31-2005, 10:25 AM
Wasn't there some talk of the boys climbing in through the window to get popsicles from the freezers? And was there a cut screen on Bond Street? Who found out about this?
A thought: suppose he went over to cut the screen so he could say that about the popsicles? It's a very dumb move, but we're talking about Darin here.
When they lived on Bond Street the boys were too little to climb in and out of windows. Whatever he wanted had to do with him and/or Darlie.

texassnuboots
12-31-2005, 10:26 AM
So what are your opinions on why Darin went to look at the screens on Bond Street? I haven't a clue why in the world he would find the need to do this.
This is just a guess but maybe he cut one of the screens when they lived there using the same knife or a knife that could be tied to the Routier home, in one of his misguided "insurance" scams. Maybe he was nervous and afraid that if LE could find evidence on the screen cut at the house on Eagle Drive maybe they could also find evidence that he had cut a screen on Bond St. This makes no sense. Even as I am typing it I am pounding my forehead saying...what?????:banghead:

Goody
12-31-2005, 10:27 AM
I don't think he's trying to implicate Darlie by saying that about the sock. It might have been a slip or he might have been quoting Babara Davis who ran the path and back to see how long it took.

Barbara Davis' book did not come out until after the trial. How would Darin know how fast she'd made that run? I don't think she even interviewed him for her book. He said what he did before the trial even started.

beesy
12-31-2005, 12:38 PM
Well, Beesy, today your brain is on vacation because the DA asked Darin all about this little trip to Bond St. He denied most of what was reported but I doubt if anyone believed him. I think he was scared of being implicated in the trial and the why he did what he did,said what he did had everything to do with that. Goody, you little sow!!! I've never professed to know much about this visit. I remember all of this now, but there was no need to be so snippy! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_30.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZZ) Tone down the sarcasm dear or you will raise the wrath of beesy!

Jeana (DP)
12-31-2005, 12:41 PM
Goody, you little sow!!! I've never professed to know much about this visit. That is extremely rude. I asked a Q! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_30.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZZ) Tone down the sarcasm dear or you will raise the wrath of beesy!


Beesy, I KNOW that you and Goody are friends and she won't alert me to this post, but I'd rather not give the posters who don't belong to the other forum the impression that this is the way Websleuthers talk to one another. Get my meaning?????? :cool:

feenix
12-31-2005, 12:41 PM
[QUOTE=Goody]Well, Beesy, today your brain is on vacation because the DA asked Darin all about this little trip to Bond St. That was a bit below the belt wasn't it?

Jeana (DP)
12-31-2005, 12:46 PM
[QUOTE]That was a bit below the belt wasn't it?


Tracey, let me handle the low blows, ok? That's why I'm here. ;)

beesy
12-31-2005, 12:49 PM
Beesy, I KNOW that you and Goody are friends and she won't alert me to this post, but I'd rather not give the posters who don't belong to the other forum the impression that this is the way Websleuthers talk to one another. Get my meaning?????? :cool: Yes, I'll behave, as I always do when you fuss at me. Thanks for not hitting me.

feenix
12-31-2005, 12:54 PM
Tracey, let me handle the low blows, ok? That's why I'm here. ;)Yes you're right, sorry, I was a bit hasty there. My apologies.:cool:

beesy
12-31-2005, 12:54 PM
Barbara Davis' book did not come out until after the trial. How would Darin know how fast she'd made that run? I don't think she even interviewed him for her book. He said what he did before the trial even started. thanks for the info. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/4/4_15_3.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZZ)

Jeana (DP)
12-31-2005, 12:55 PM
Yes you're right, sorry, I was a bit hasty there. My apologies.:cool:


No prob!!!! :blowkiss: I'm glad you're here!!!

beesy
12-31-2005, 01:15 PM
When they lived on Bond Street the boys were too little to climb in and out of windows. Whatever he wanted had to do with him and/or Darlie. Ha ha! yes, 2 and 3 year olds can't climb through windows to get popsicles, can they? :doh:

deanws
12-31-2005, 04:56 PM
I smell bacon! :p

Goody
01-01-2006, 02:16 PM
Goody, you little sow!!! I've never professed to know much about this visit. I remember all of this now, but there was no need to be so snippy! http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_30.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZZ) Tone down the sarcasm dear or you will raise the wrath of beesy!
Meet me at high noon....you know where...and we'll see who can sting the hardest....your scrawny little bee stinger or my verbal six gun. hahahahahahahahahahahshahahhaahah!

Goody
01-01-2006, 02:19 PM
This is just a guess but maybe he cut one of the screens when they lived there using the same knife or a knife that could be tied to the Routier home, in one of his misguided "insurance" scams. Maybe he was nervous and afraid that if LE could find evidence on the screen cut at the house on Eagle Drive maybe they could also find evidence that he had cut a screen on Bond St. This makes no sense. Even as I am typing it I am pounding my forehead saying...what?????:banghead:
He knew something about the screens at Bond Street that no one else knew and was probably very relieved to find whatever it was was gone. It didn't have to be screens persay, but that is the only thing about the two houses I can think of that might be linked in some way. Whatever it was, he was afraid it would link him to the murders or the staging. Given his comments about Darlie, it probably was not a trip made to save her hide.

Goody
01-01-2006, 02:24 PM
Ha ha! yes, 2 and 3 year olds can't climb through windows to get popsicles, can they? :doh:
Can yours?

Jeana (DP)
01-01-2006, 02:24 PM
Meet me at high noon....you know where...and we'll see who can sting the hardest....your scrawny little bee stinger or my verbal six gun. hahahahahahahahahahahshahahhaahah!


Nothing personal Beesy, but $50 on Goody to win.
:) :) :) :) :) :)

Goody
01-01-2006, 02:25 PM
I smell bacon! :p
Why? Bees aren't made of pork!!! hahahahahahahhaha

Goody
01-01-2006, 02:30 PM
Ha ha! yes, 2 and 3 year olds can't climb through windows to get popsicles, can they? :doh:
Here's a kiss for you. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_7.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZSzeb005YYUS)

Goody
01-01-2006, 02:33 PM
OK, I have a theory - - sometimes when your life is turned upside down you try and go back to a place of "comfort", a place that held good thoughts and feelings; just to try and make sense of the horrid event that turned your life upside down. I wonder if life was better at the Bond St house and Darin simply went there to try and relive or bring back that feeling. jmho
raven
Might be a possible theory if it didn't happen just two weeks before the trial. He went over there to check on something. No one knows what it was or why but him. Maybe it had to do with the screens, maybe not.

beesy
01-01-2006, 05:54 PM
Nothing personal Beesy, but $50 on Goody to win.
:) :) :) :) :) :) Hey! I thought I was the meanie head on here! Don't ruin my reputation here! I can take Goody with one wing tied behind my back!

beesy
01-01-2006, 05:57 PM
Why? Bees aren't made of pork!!! hahahahahahahhaha She meant you because I called you a sow

beesy
01-01-2006, 05:59 PM
Can yours? I don't have any 2 or 3 yr olds, but when mine were that little they were so advanced they could :crazy:

deanws
01-01-2006, 06:24 PM
Why? Bees aren't made of pork!!! hahahahahahahhahaI think someone mentioned sow!?!?!!? ;) LOL!

Goody
01-01-2006, 10:13 PM
I think someone mentioned sow!?!?!!? ;) LOL!
hahahahahahahah. That one went right over my head.

Goody
01-01-2006, 10:15 PM
Hey! I thought I was the meanie head on here! Don't ruin my reputation here! I can take Goody with one wing tied behind my back!
hahahahahahahahahah! Go, Beesy, go!

Goody
01-01-2006, 10:16 PM
I don't have any 2 or 3 yr olds, but when mine were that little they were so advanced they could :crazy:
Ladder and all? You are going to make me go look up all those old dates, aren't you?

beesy
01-02-2006, 02:55 PM
Ladder and all? You are going to make me go look up all those old dates, aren't you? No, not if they lived on Bond St. 3 years before. I agreed with you as soon as you reminded me how little the boys were then. I think you misunderstood my post. Maybe Darin was going to cut the screen and say that's how they let the cat in the house! Ha:doh:

deanws
01-02-2006, 09:28 PM
No, not if they lived on Bond St. 3 years before. I agreed with you as soon as you reminded me how little the boys were then. I think you misunderstood my post. Maybe Darin was going to cut the screen and say that's how they let the cat in the house! Ha:doh: LOL...good one!! :crazy:

Goody
01-02-2006, 11:56 PM
No, not if they lived on Bond St. 3 years before. I agreed with you as soon as you reminded me how little the boys were then. I think you misunderstood my post. Maybe Darin was going to cut the screen and say that's how they let the cat in the house! Ha:doh:
:laugh: You know you are a redneck when......

deanws
01-03-2006, 12:03 AM
:laugh: You know you are a redneck when...... http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_12_6.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm824YYUS)