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anthrobones
01-07-2006, 06:31 PM
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/opitz_mary.html


http://doenetwork.us/cases/72uftx.html

Age is off slightly. So is the height...JD is between 4'10" and 5'2", Mary is between 5'4" and 5'5". She went missing in 1981. JD was found Jan. 1, 1984 and was dead for at least 1 year.

I didn't search to see if this has been discussed here before, so sorry if there is another thread already on this.

dottierainbow
01-07-2006, 06:47 PM
It sounds like it could be. The pictures resemble one another. Also they say the heights are approximate not exact.
Amy


http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/opitz_mary.html


http://doenetwork.us/cases/72uftx.html

Age is off slightly. So is the height...JD is between 4'10" and 5'2", Mary is between 5'4" and 5'5". She went missing in 1981. JD was found Jan. 1, 1984 and was dead for at least 1 year.

I didn't search to see if this has been discussed here before, so sorry if there is another thread already on this.

PonderingThings
01-07-2006, 07:17 PM
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/o/opitz_mary.jpghttp://doenetwork.us/cases/images/72UFTX.jpghttp://www.charleyproject.org/images/o/opitz_mary2.jpg
Mary Opitz on right and left, Jane Doe in center.

1. Sketch is close match
2. Hair Color Matches
3. Age Matches
4. Time of disappearance January 1981 is a match because the estimated death of Jane Doe took place at least one year before she was found in January of 1984
5. Both Jane Doe and Mary wore braces.
6. Jane Doe was wearing a white terry cloth shirt, Mary disappeared wearing a white pullover shirt.
7. Mary was 5'4"-5'5", Jane Doe is estimated at 4'10" -5'2". This is a VERY big difference, but I agree with both of you, since both are estimates that may be the reason it doesn't match.
8. Texas is about a days drive from Fort Myers, Florida. Since we know she was abducted (the friend that was with her was later found dead), we don't know where she was taken, and how long she was held. This is a possibility.

I think its a very good match. I strongly urge you to submit it to LE.

gardenmom
01-07-2006, 08:39 PM
I'm not sure about his one. They do look a lot alike, but the heights are off. The braces are what bother me though. If she was kidnapped then why are the braces missing? It's not like the kidnapper would remove her braces. I doubt she would have been held 3 years either, when her friend was found murdered shortly after the kidnapping. You could try though, doesn't hurt.

PonderingThings
01-07-2006, 09:13 PM
Gardenmom about the amount of time that elapse. Mary went missing January 1981.

Jane Doe was found in 1984 (that's 3 years), but the estimated time of dead was AT LEAST one year (so that means January 1983, or before).

That's a maximum of a 2 year period between the the abduction and Jane Doe's death (and it could be less).

As for the braces... that is a niggly one. I find it interesting that it says
"Evidence suggests that she previously wore braces on her teeth" and nothing else about dentals. In case the family ends up reading this I do not wish to expand on this point any further.

gardenmom
01-08-2006, 01:16 AM
I'm sorry, anthrobones, I just checked Doe Network and discovered this match had been submitted and ruled out due to dentals on 11-01-02. I was beginning to think this was a match.

If you are not yet a member of doenetwork.com I suggest you sign up, and go on the members forum where you can do a name or doe case number search to see if a match has been submitted. It saves time. In some cases it is frustrating because they don't give explanations for ruling out matches, or I don't agree, but I am also learning.

Paradise
01-08-2006, 01:41 AM
This match was ruled out by Texas DPS in 2002 through dentals.

PonderingThings
01-08-2006, 07:48 AM
Darn! I thought that was a really good one!

Thank you Gardenmom and Paradise for providing that info.

anthrobones
01-08-2006, 01:46 PM
Good thing I checked this today then. I was going to submit it. Does anyone know where else Wilder went besides Florida? I think Charley Project also meant Australia.

anthrobones
01-08-2006, 01:47 PM
If you are not yet a member of doenetwork.com I suggest you sign up, and go on the members forum where you can do a name or doe case number search to see if a match has been submitted. It saves time. In some cases it is frustrating because they don't give explanations for ruling out matches, or I don't agree, but I am also learning.
Ok. I will go look for the member sign up thing.