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ShowerSinger
01-25-2006, 10:27 PM
This pretty young lady disappeared after saying she was going to mail a package. She did not show up for work on Tuesday, and her cell phone goes directly to voice mail.
www.local6.com/news/6443122/detail.html
Jennifer had told family and friends she was afraid of living alone in her apartment complex. The complex has a security gate, however, visitors are not monitored.

CrimeHater
01-25-2006, 10:33 PM
I wonder what the circumstances were of her and the boyfriend. I just ask since he was the last to see her. I hope we get some more info on this. She's a really pretty girl.

PrayersForMaura
01-25-2006, 11:07 PM
Police Find Few Clues In Search For Missing Woman

Orlando police are looking for a missing woman who never showed up for work on Tuesday.
Her family said that's not like her, WESH 2 News reported.
Jennifer Kesse, 24, and her 2004 black Chevrolet Malibu are missing. Police said she lives at the Mosaic Apartments on Conroy Road, near the Mall at Millenia.

"It's not usual for her not to have contacted anybody on her cell phone, and more importantly, for the cell phone to be turned off," said her mother, Joyce Kesse.

When Jennifer Kesse did not show up at work on Tuesday, her Ocoee investment office called her parents.

"'We don?t' want to alarm you, but Jennifer hasn't showed up for work. She hasn't called. She hasn't e-mailed, she hasn't shown up for work.' Jennifer is the type of person if she is running 15 minutes late, she's going to call you to say, 'I'm running 15 minutes late,'" her mother said.

Her parents called the staff at the Mosaic Apartments. The condo was checked and the door was locked and nothing was disturbed. No one has heard from Kesse since she had a cell phone conversation with her boyfriend at about 10 p.m. on Monday. Her family said it is very uncharacteristic for her to lose contact with her family, and it's even more unusual for her to not show up for work.

Whoops!
Link: http://news.yahoo.com/s/wesh/20060125/lo_wesh/3216225

CW
01-26-2006, 01:05 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/6431531/detail.html?treets=orlc&tid=2656819395813&tml=orlc_4pm&tmi=orlc_4pm_1_03000201252006&ts=H

fourboys
01-26-2006, 09:51 AM
Police: Missing Woman's Car Found

UPDATED: January 26, 2006

Police believe they've found a car belonging to a woman missing in Orlando for three days.

Investigators said the car belonging to Jennifer Kesse, 24, was found near her home, WESH 2 News reported.

The vehicle was found at Huntington on the Greens Apartments at Americana and Texas, officials said.

Kesse's boss said she never showed up at work on Tuesday. She was last heard from Monday night.

Her family and former University of Central Florida sorority sisters are talking to people around her Mosaic of Millenia condominium to help gather more information.

http://www.wesh.com/news/6461195/detail.html

Beyond Belief
01-26-2006, 10:04 AM
Thanks for posting the update. I have been thinking about her. I hope this turns out all right.

ShowerSinger
01-26-2006, 10:05 PM
Apparently she had bought the condo she lives in, and it DOES have security. The bloodhound traced a scent from her car, leading past the only gated entrance to a spot inside the fence leading straight to her front door. She had called her 29yo boyfriend in Fort Lauderdale at around 10pm on Monday night. I dunno. Something is really odd about this. I can't find a link. Just some friends who live there, who told me this. Also, something about a gym bag?
Anyone else hear anything?

fourboys
01-26-2006, 10:17 PM
<SNIP>

Orange County sheriff's bloodhound Bo took a sniff of the driver's seat and pulled handler Sgt. Jeff Brown at a loping pace for a mile.
The scent led straight to the front door of Kesse's home in Mosaic at Millenia, an upscale, gated and fenced condominium complex with 24-hour security on Americana Boulevard.

The trail bypassed the complex's only entrance and led to a stretch of fence separating the public sidewalk from its private grounds. Once the 6-year-old bloodhound entered the grounds, the dog picked up the scent inside the fence and went directly to a staircase leading to Kesse's second-floor condominium.

<SNIP>

Orlando police homicide detectives would not speculate on who abandoned Kesse's Chevrolet Malibu near the intersection of Americana and Texas Avenue and then walked or ran back to her home.

Today's investigation in Orlando included searches of storage closets in the 3-story building where she lives and a search of scrub pines and brush at the back of the property. Another search was conducted at Huntington on the Green condominiums, where the missing Chevy Malibu was found parked between a white Dodge pickup and a Jeep Cherokee.

Crime scene technicians picked through a nearby dumpster and photographed a gym-style bag along with several pieces of discarded furniture. Afterwards, Kesse's car was carried away by a flatbed tow truck for a forensic inspection of its interior and body.


http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/orl-bk-missingwoman012606,0,1787842.story?coll=orl-news-headlines

CW
01-26-2006, 10:24 PM
Missing Person Flyer For Jennifer Kesse
http://www.wftv.com/download/2006/0125/6436347.pdf

Beyond Belief
01-26-2006, 10:27 PM
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-missingwoman012606,0,3904869.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

The trail bypassed the complex's only entrance and led to a stretch of fence separating the public sidewalk from its private grounds. Once the 6-year-old bloodhound entered the grounds, the dog picked up the scent inside the fence and went directly to a staircase leading to Kesse's second-floor condominium.

Orlando police homicide detectives would not speculate on who abandoned Kesse's Chevrolet Malibu near the intersection of Americana and Texas Avenue and then walked or ran back to her home.

"Obviously, we get more concerned as time passes but we certainly are going to keep our hopes up," said Sgt. Barbara Jones, the department spokeswoman.

Missing persons cases are relatively common in Central Florida with more than 3,000 listed at least briefly each year in Orange County alone.

An impromptu search for the 24-year-old financial analyst began Tuesday when she failed to go to work at Central Florida Investments or answer her cell phone.

Extremely responsible since childhood, her uncharacteristic absence alarmed family members in Bradenton and more than a dozen former classmates at the University of Central Florida. By Tuesday night, they began distributing posters asking the public to help find the 5-feet, 8-inch tall, 135-pound blonde with green eyes.

"She's got the whole package. She's just one of those girls you go to for anything," said friend and college roommate Jenny Peppers. "She's got street smarts and book smarts. She's a very bright girl."

The last time anyone heard from Kesse was about 10 p.m. Monday when she called Rob Allen, her boyfriend who lives in Fort Lauderdale, her friends and police said.

Allen, 29, and Kesse met last year when she and several of her friends went to the Tiki Bar, a popular meeting place in downtown Orlando's nightclub district, said Cari McKibben, who roomed with Kesse for five years.

This afternoon, Allen, McKibben, Peppers and about 20 of Kesse's relatives and friends from as far away as Boston gathered at her condominium to wait for news from police. Many were UCF 2003 graduates, who described her with the same terms of determination, intelligence and ambition that had followed her since elementary school in Tampa when she received all A's on her report card.

At Gaither High School in Hillsborough County, where she belonged to the Fellowships of Christian Students, Spanish Honors Society and graduated in 1999, Principal Brenda Grasso told the St. Petersburg Times newspaper, "She left us with a very high GPA. ... What an awful shame.''

Today's investigation in Orlando included searches of storage closets in the 3-story building where she lives and a search of scrub pines and brush at the back of the property. Another search was conducted at Huntington on the Green condominiums, where the missing Chevy Malibu was found parked between a white Dodge pickup and a Jeep Cherokee.

Crime scene technicians picked through a nearby dumpster and photographed a gym-style bag along with several pieces of discarded furniture. Afterwards, Kesse's car was carried away by a flatbed tow truck for a forensic inspection of its interior and body.

Homicide detectives Emmett Browning and Glenn Gause returned to the complex late this afternoon to inspect a security camera system with a view of the spot where Kesse's car had been parked. They did not say if there is film of who abandoned the car.

concernedperson
01-26-2006, 10:30 PM
I don't feel good about this at all.

cheko1
01-26-2006, 10:37 PM
This is every parents worst nightmare.....I sure hope they find her alive & well soon.

She has a lot of contact with people working at West Gate Resorts. We have a time share there.

Bobbisangel
01-27-2006, 02:52 AM
The search dog has me puzzled. Did they just have the dog stick his nose inside the car and follow the scent of whoever had been in the car last? I wonder why they didn't get a piece of her clothing out of the dirty clothes and have the dog sniff it and see where that led? If the dog was following her scent that would mean that she parked her car there and then walked back to her condo right up to her door which doesn't make sense at all. If it means that someone else drove her car to that place and then walked back to her place right up to her steps....did that person go inside her condo? I wonder if anything was missing? Whoever it was avoided the main gate probably hoping that no one would see him/her. This is really strange. I would think that the person was just going back to retrieve their own car but they went right up to her steps or door.

I wonder how far away the boyfriend lives? I see that he is there helping search but that wouldn't be the first time. Hate to focus right on to the boyfriend but......

I hope that she is found soon and that she is alright. I'll be surprised if that happens though. Wonder if the gym bag belonged to her or if it was just something someone threw away. Her poor family having to go through this.

petra
01-27-2006, 08:47 AM
http://www.local6.com/news/6489496/detail.html

PrayersForMaura
01-27-2006, 09:12 AM
Friends, Family Search For Missing Woman

Friends and family will launch a major search Friday to find An Orlando woman who has been missing for nearly four days.
The search is set to begin at 7:30 a.m., and about 100 of Kesse's friends and family members will gather at the Huntington on the Green condominium complex, where her car was found.

...But Kesse's father had an emotional message for his daughter Thursday night, and he remains hopeful.

"Your family and your friends love you. We know you are there. We will find you. We will not stop, and God, we will find you, and just be smart, as we know you are, and be strong, as we know you are," Drew Kesse said.

More: http://news.yahoo.com/s/wesh/20060127/lo_wesh/3221236

WhiteWolf
01-27-2006, 09:38 AM
The search dog has me puzzled. Did they just have the dog stick his nose inside the car and follow the scent of whoever had been in the car last? I wonder why they didn't get a piece of her clothing out of the dirty clothes and have the dog sniff it and see where that led? If the dog was following her scent that would mean that she parked her car there and then walked back to her condo right up to her door which doesn't make sense at all. If it means that someone else drove her car to that place and then walked back to her place right up to her steps....did that person go inside her condo? I wonder if anything was missing? Whoever it was avoided the main gate probably hoping that no one would see him/her. This is really strange. I would think that the person was just going back to retrieve their own car but they went right up to her steps or door.

I wonder how far away the boyfriend lives? I see that he is there helping search but that wouldn't be the first time. Hate to focus right on to the boyfriend but......

I hope that she is found soon and that she is alright. I'll be surprised if that happens though. Wonder if the gym bag belonged to her or if it was just something someone threw away. Her poor family having to go through this.


I wondered why whoever drove her car would go to her condo, too. Maybe she was abducted somewhere other than from her condo and the abductor found her address with her purse and decided to go rob her place later?

If she was abducted or killed at her condo, maybe there was a clean up to do to get rid of evidence?

concernedperson
01-27-2006, 09:51 AM
I read that the boyfriend lived in Fort Lauderdale and had spoken to Jennifer around 10 pm Monday night on the phone (that is easy to verify). It is an approximate 3 hour drive to Orlando from Lauderdale.

Jennifer had expressed concern about some of the maintenence workers on the condo property.Even though it was a gated community it appears she was worried about inside the gates. These workers would have pass keys to units for emergencies. Normally there would be a privacy lock in a unit so the key wouldn't be used while you are inside but maybe in this case there was none.

I don't believe she is too far away and they will find the clues needed to bring her home.

cheko1
01-27-2006, 10:12 AM
The search dog has me puzzled. Did they just have the dog stick his nose inside the car and follow the scent of whoever had been in the car last? I wonder why they didn't get a piece of her clothing out of the dirty clothes and have the dog sniff it and see where that led? If the dog was following her scent that would mean that she parked her car there and then walked back to her condo right up to her door which doesn't make sense at all. If it means that someone else drove her car to that place and then walked back to her place right up to her steps....did that person go inside her condo? I wonder if anything was missing? Whoever it was avoided the main gate probably hoping that no one would see him/her. This is really strange. I would think that the person was just going back to retrieve their own car but they went right up to her steps or door.

I wonder how far away the boyfriend lives? I see that he is there helping search but that wouldn't be the first time. Hate to focus right on to the boyfriend but......

I hope that she is found soon and that she is alright. I'll be surprised if that happens though. Wonder if the gym bag belonged to her or if it was just something someone threw away. Her poor family having to go through this.
This also has me concerned it never made much sense. Thought it was just me over reacting to the search dogs......:twocents:

audrey77
01-27-2006, 12:12 PM
The boyfriend lives in Fort Lauderdale- really far away (hours south).

Beyond Belief
01-27-2006, 08:50 PM
Family Of Missing Woman Offers $15,000 Reward

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orlando Police Department held a news conference about a missing woman Friday afternoon. Jennifer Kesse, 24, was last heard from Monday night.

http://www.wftv.com/news/6465854/detail.html

hndinglove
01-27-2006, 10:47 PM
a crime (assuming there was one) committed by a worker at the complex would make sense, though. drive the car away, abandon it, and then walk back to the complex. hop a fence (perhaps someone was supposed to be on duty?), and they would have an alibi and excuse to be near her condo, since they would be working or supposed to be there. i think the press i read said the dog went to the base of a staircase to her condo, not directly to her condo (unless i'm mistaken).

Beyond Belief
01-27-2006, 11:17 PM
Is there a timeline for Monday? Yes the phone call at 10. What time was she suppose to be a work? Had she set her alarm monday night to get up Tues? Was the alarm buzzing like she wasn't there to shut it off? Were work clothes missing? Were the clothes she had on Monday in her room? Did she call the boyfriend on his cell phone or home phone?

Its somebody in her building.

I don't think she was abducted from her apt. She either went out to get something after the 10 oclock call, or she was abducted leaving for work in the morning. I would like to know if her work clothes were laid out for the next day. Had she unpacked from the trip? Is the washer/dryer in the apt. or is there a laundry room in the building. Also who was on the property at the time she leaves for work. The answer lies there.

She was fearful, I don't think she would open the door for anyone or do anything stupid like take a walk in the dark. Or even take the trash out in the dark, but perhaps before leaving for work. I wonder what time the apts dumpsters are emptied and on what day.

13th Juror
01-27-2006, 11:45 PM
Our local news - WFTV in Orlando - just announced that the reward for Jennifer Kesse" is now $100.000.00. An hour ago - an anonymous donor upped the fund from the $15,000 that was announced early this morning.

Her distraught parents were both on the news begging for any information to find their daughter.

Her car is still being processed.

I have a really bad feeling about this one. :(

Please keep Jennifer & her family in your prayers.

13th Juror

Shadow205
01-27-2006, 11:54 PM
Family Of Missing Woman Offers $15,000 Reward

ORLANDO, Fla. -- The Orlando Police Department held a news conference about a missing woman Friday afternoon. Jennifer Kesse, 24, was last heard from Monday night.

http://www.wftv.com/news/6465854/detail.html
From the link above:
Sources told Channel 9 that detectives were combing through surveillance video from that complex, looking at it second by second for any more clues in the investigation.


"I will confirm there is some video surveillance we will be looking at," said Sgt. Barbara Jones, Orlando Police Department.

Maybe they will be able to see who parked her car there on the video.

Beyond Belief
01-28-2006, 08:58 AM
Its not going to be someone who works on that property or lives there, they would know theres camera's there. I wish they would work a little quicker on this, how long does it take to look at some video?

ShowerSinger
01-28-2006, 07:54 PM
The latest, not much...
www.local6.com/news/6515674/detail.html

I hesitate to add this, but...
her car was found really close to OBT, (Orange Blossom Trail) the worst road in Central Florida. I wouldn't dare venture there at night, and avoid at all costs during the day.

I pray they found something helpful on the surveillance tape.

audrey77
01-28-2006, 10:44 PM
I hesitate to add this, but...
her car was found really close to OBT, (Orange Blossom Trail) the worst road in Central Florida. I wouldn't dare venture there at night, and avoid at all costs during the day.

At least it's near the better portion... go up north a few miles... ouch!

They're keeping this investigation close to the vest...

Bobbisangel
01-29-2006, 03:34 AM
Is there a timeline for Monday? Yes the phone call at 10. What time was she suppose to be a work? Had she set her alarm Monday night to get up Tues? Was the alarm buzzing like she wasn't there to shut it off? Were work clothes missing? Were the clothes she had on Monday in her room? Did she call the boyfriend on his cell phone or home phone?

Its somebody in her building.

I don't think she was abducted from her apt. She either went out to get something after the 10 oclock call, or she was abducted leaving for work in the morning. I would like to know if her work clothes were laid out for the next day. Had she unpacked from the trip? Is the washer/dryer in the apt. or is there a laundry room in the building. Also who was on the property at the time she leaves for work. The answer lies there.

She was fearful, I don't think she would open the door for anyone or do anything stupid like take a walk in the dark. Or even take the trash out in the dark, but perhaps before leaving for work. I wonder what time the apts dumpsters are emptied and on what day.



Her family didn't mention that she was fearful of anyone at the complex. What they did say was that she had just bought the condo and there was some work that needed to be done inside. The workers who were finishing the inside work were slow and she was getting irritated because she was missing to much work as she had to be there while they were working.

misterallgood
01-29-2006, 04:20 AM
My brain tries synthesize things, so I thought, right away, of similar cases -- there have been pretty, often blonde women in their 20's abducted from apartment complexes across the nation. Maybe there's nothing to it, but here's a short list with links:

Jodi Huisentruit (http://doenetwork.bravepages.com/1326dfia.html) -- fairly famous case, news anchor from Iowa, 11 years ago.
Jennifer Servo (http://www.justiceforjennifer.org/) -- murdered in her apartment in Abilene, TX. There is a possible person of interest in this case, and Jennifer was not abducted. But she was a blonde news anchor.
Jody Lynn Brant (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/brant_jody.html) -- Teen girl, disappeared traveling from Georgia to Michigan in 1994.

That's just a sample. No, I don't assume they are linked, but for some reason they come to mind now, after seeing pictures of Jennifer Kesse. Thoughts?

Steve

Beyond Belief
01-29-2006, 09:48 AM
Her family didn't mention that she was fearful of anyone at the complex. What they did say was that she had just bought the condo and there was some work that needed to be done inside. The workers who were finishing the inside work were slow and she was getting irritated because she was missing to much work as she had to be there while they were working.
Her brother said she just started living alone in November and was uneasy about the number of people around the complex daily.
"The workers were around all the time, and naturally a girl living alone for the first time ?" said her brother, Logan Kesse.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11026504/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11026504/)

ShowerSinger
01-29-2006, 02:40 PM
My brain tries synthesize things, so I thought, right away, of similar cases -- there have been pretty, often blonde women in their 20's abducted from apartment complexes across the nation. Maybe there's nothing to it, but here's a short list with links:

Jodi Huisentruit (http://doenetwork.bravepages.com/1326dfia.html) -- fairly famous case, news anchor from Iowa, 11 years ago.
Jennifer Servo (http://www.justiceforjennifer.org/) -- murdered in her apartment in Abilene, TX. There is a possible person of interest in this case, and Jennifer was not abducted. But she was a blonde news anchor.
Jody Lynn Brant (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/brant_jody.html) -- Teen girl, disappeared traveling from Georgia to Michigan in 1994.

That's just a sample. No, I don't assume they are linked, but for some reason they come to mind now, after seeing pictures of Jennifer Kesse. Thoughts?

Steve

I'm gonna move my thoughts over to a new thread on the missing discussion forum, since, well, you know. Some here get upset, if this isn't strictly for info and support.

fourboys
01-30-2006, 11:53 AM
UPDATED: January 30, 2006

Police officers in Orlando, Fla., continued a search of a heavily wooded area Monday near the location where 24-year-old Jennifer Kesse's abandoned car was discovered last week after a scent was picked up in the area, according to a Local 6 News report.

Kesse, who works for Westgate Resorts in the Orlando suburb of Ocoee, Fla., is considered a missing and endangered adult after she mysteriously vanished last week.

"One of the two strongest clues that the Orlando Police Department is sharing with the media is the scent that was picked up in the woods," Local 6 News reporter Samantha Knapp said.

Continued:

http://www.local6.com/news/6587477/detail.html

fourboys
01-30-2006, 03:30 PM
Drew Kesse Gives New Plea for Help

01/30/2006

The parents of a missing Orlando woman are urging people to speak up and help police find their daughter, 24 year old Jennifer Kesse.

"Nothing's too trivial out there. Please, we're asking for your help."

The woman's father, Drew Kesse, is showing pictures of his daughter's car as it was found in an apartment complex near where she lives.

"If you know anything about this situation - a person around it, a person in it, a car next to it, a building behind it that you might recognize. Yeah, I did see something. We are desperate, truly, at this point. Please give a call."

There is a 115 thousand dollar reward being offered by crimeline. and another 50-thousand fliers with her picture are being made up and distributed.

Photos of car at link:

http://580wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/0...elp_151716.html (http://580wdbo.com/includes/news/indepth/02107_Drew_Kesse_Gives_New_Plea_for_Help_151716.ht ml)

CW
01-31-2006, 09:37 PM
Police Using Surveillance Video In Search For Woman

POSTED: 3:32 pm EST January 31, 2006
UPDATED: 5:40 pm EST January 31, 2006

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Police are using surveillance video from stores to try to find missing 24-year-old Jennifer Kesse. Officers have already taken the tapes from several businesses located near Jennifer's condo, which is near the Mall of Millenia.

Police are now releasing a timeline as to when they think Jennifer's car came through the South John Young Parkway corridor and detectives are scouring the store surveillance tapes hoping one of the cameras captured something to narrow the timeline.

Jennifer's car is still the best clue police have. A woman, who didn't want to be identified, but lives in the Huntington on the Green apartments where Jennifer's car was found last Thursday morning, remembers seeing the car a whole day earlier, Wednesday morning. She nearly hit it, in the lot.

"My kids were making noise in the car and I almost backed into it," she said. "I didn't notice that car before and, when I noticed it, I knew it wasn't somebody staying around here."

http://www.wftv.com/news/6630167/detail.html?treets=orlc&tid=2656819395813&tml=orlc_4pm&tmi=orlc_4pm_1_03000301312006&ts=H

mysteriew
02-01-2006, 01:09 AM
Investigators Release More Photos In Missing Woman Case
http://www.wftv.com/news/6597807/detail.html

Jennifer Kesse Search Continues
http://cfn13.com/StoryHeadline.aspx?id=12969

petra
02-01-2006, 03:11 PM
Police expand search......

http://www.wftv.com/news/6652449/detail.html

CrimeHater
02-01-2006, 05:06 PM
Jennifer is a beautiful girl. She has many different looks.

Bobbisangel
02-01-2006, 10:31 PM
Her brother said she just started living alone in November and was uneasy about the number of people around the complex daily.
"The workers were around all the time, and naturally a girl living alone for the first time ?" said her brother, Logan Kesse.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11026504/ (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11026504/)




I hadn't heard that. It was her parents that made the statement that I wrote.
Her dad said that she just bought her first condo. Probably was kind of scary living alone for the first time.

petra
02-02-2006, 01:24 AM
http://www.wftv.com/news/6657231/detail.html

LOTS OF INFO

HOW TO VOLUNTEER

dannyodie
02-02-2006, 07:56 AM
Its not going to be someone who works on that property or lives there, they would know theres camera's there. I wish they would work a little quicker on this, how long does it take to look at some video?
I would think that it could be a maintence person that worked there, yes he would know about the cameras and would also know how to avoid being captured on one of them to, the article I was reading said that whoever came back to her apartment from the car by passed the only entrance and went over a fence then to her unit, so that person did that to avoid being seen by cameras, I would alert orlando police and have them look into that possibility, it has happended in the past.

audrey77
02-02-2006, 09:57 AM
Just an FYI everyone... there are two PD's in this case... Orlando Police, and the Orange County Sheriffs.

SewingDeb
02-02-2006, 10:38 AM
I would think that it could be a maintence person that worked there, yes he would know about the cameras and would also know how to avoid being captured on one of them to, the article I was reading said that whoever came back to her apartment from the car by passed the only entrance and went over a fence then to her unit, so that person did that to avoid being seen by cameras, I would alert orlando police and have them look into that possibility, it has happended in the past.

From Petra's link about the new search:

In the meantime, though, police began Wednesday what they are calling a new grid search, based on tips that have been coming in. Sheriff's deputies with the mounted patrol jumped off their horses and over a fence Wednesday along Texas Avenue off of John Young Parkway after a citizen called in a tip.

CW
02-02-2006, 04:07 PM
Huge Weekend Search Planned For Missing Woman

POSTED: 4:13 pm EST February 1, 2006
UPDATED: 8:25 am EST February 2, 2006

VOLUNTEER: To sign up to help in the effort this weekend, visit the community center at the Mall at Millenia (entrance between Brio and the Cheesecake Factory) Thursday or Friday during normal mall hours.

ORLANDO, Fla. -- A group called Child Watch announced Wednesday it will help look for 24-year-old Jennifer Kesse, who's been missing for nine days. Family members asked the community to join in on another search this weekend.

Meanwhile, detectives looked through an expanded area Wednesday, bordered by Texas Avenue, Orange Blossom Trail, Holden Avenue and Oak Ridge Road.

The Kesse family is hoping to inject a new energy into the search for Jennifer. Hundreds of volunteers will take part in the biggest effort yet to find her this weekend.
http://www.wftv.com/news/6657231/detail.html?treets=orlc&tid=2656819395813&tml=orlc_12pm&tmi=orlc_12pm_1_11000202022006&ts=H

fourboys
02-03-2006, 08:45 AM
Web Site Launched In Search For Missing Orlando Woman

POSTED: February 3, 2006

http://jenniferkesse.com/

More than 150 volunteers have signed up for Saturday's scheduled search for an Orlando woman who mysteriously vanished last week.

Members of Child Watch of North America joined the search for 24-year-old Jennifer Kesse early this week and immediately planned an organized search Saturday.

Kesse was reported missing last Tuesday after she did not show up for work at Westgate Resorts in Ocoee, Fla.

Friday, the family launched a Web site to keep Kesse's name and story circulating.

The Web site contains photos, notes from the family and a guest book where visitors can leave messages.

Local 6 News reported that one of the Web site posts was from a concerned citizen in Anchorage, Alaska.

"I just think what if that was my daughter?" volunteer Tony Brower said. "I wouldn't like this to happen, and if it was my wife I'd sure like people to come out and help as much as they can."

Orlando police will resume their search of wooded areas near Kesse's apartment Friday.

Teams of police officers and sheriff's deputies searched areas inside the boundaries of Texas Avenue to the west, Orange Blossom Trail to the east, Oakridge Road to the south and Holden Avenue to the north.

Nearly 100 anonymous Crimeline tips have been made since last week, but the woman remains missing.

Volunteers for Saturday's search are asked to sign up at the Mall at Millenia from 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Members will be photographed, given a badge and put into a search party. Registration will be held at the community room near the Banana Republic store at the mall.

http://www.local6.com/news/6703977/detail.html

13th Juror
02-03-2006, 04:25 PM
"MISSING - Jennifer Kesse (24) of Orlando, Fla"



http://jenniferkesse.com/images/6.jpg



So often, I find myself in a city or state far removed from the vicinity of the search for a missing person. Finally - I am in a location to be able to lend whatever assistance I can. I went down to the community center at the Mall of Millenia and registered for this weekend's organized community grid search.

If anyone else lives in the Orlando vicinity and has a free week-end or even a free few hours - the Kesse family & Child Watch would be extremely grateful for your help.

It's been thundering & raining steadily here since 6-7 this morning. Overcast gloomy weather, for sure. Fortunately, better weather is forecast for tomorrow & Sunday!

I'm praying that Jennifer will be found this week-end - and found 'alive'! But, I've had a really strong feeling right from the beginning that Jennifer was murdered within hours of her abduction. With all my heart - I hope I'm wrong.

13th Juror

cheko1
02-03-2006, 04:39 PM
"MISSING - Jennifer Kesse (24) of Orlando, Fla"



http://jenniferkesse.com/images/6.jpg



So often, I find myself in a city or state far removed from the vicinity of the search for a missing person. Finally - I am in a location to be able to lend whatever assistance I can. I went down to the community center at the Mall of Millenia and registered for this weekend's organized community grid search.

If anyone else lives in the Orlando vicinity and has a free week-end or even a free few hours - the Kesse family & Child Watch would be extremely grateful for your help.

It's been thundering & raining steadily here since 6-7 this morning. Overcast gloomy weather, for sure. Fortunately, better weather is forecast for tomorrow & Sunday!

I'm praying that Jennifer will be found this week-end - and found 'alive'! But, I've had a really strong feeling right from the beginning that Jennifer was murdered within hours of her abduction. With all my heart - I hope I'm wrong.

13th Juror


Best of luck 13th juror in your search. Our thoughts & prayers will be with you.

sailorgirl
02-03-2006, 05:32 PM
Might have been scary living alone for the first time, but tax records show she paid 209,000 for her condo. Impressive for a 24 year old. I would have thought the security would have been better for this price.:mad:

ShowerSinger
02-04-2006, 03:38 PM
I, too, hope they find her this weekend during the massive search.

This other story caught my eye. I imagine police are questioning this man, as it occurred in Ocoee.
www.local6.com/news/6707818/detail.html

Makes you wonder, huh?

audrey77
02-04-2006, 07:03 PM
Her website shows surveilance photos of a person of intrest. You really can't see the face... but it's something.

Beyond Belief
02-04-2006, 07:14 PM
Thats something alright. He has one of those haircuts with the head shaved up to the ears and the top all one length to the ears. This is a kid.

I wanted to highlight the second picture. It looked like his hands were behind his back, but highlighted it looks like he is carrying a bookbag, suitcase type thing. Hard to see, but its there.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kesse4.jpg

Or he's putting on a jacket as he walks.

concernedperson
02-04-2006, 08:32 PM
I am really worried about this one. I don't think a good resolve is in order. She was low risk. She was also loved tremendously by her parents and I hear their pain and it is just terrible.

Beyond Belief
02-04-2006, 08:34 PM
I agree concerned. They moved fast on this, but not fast enough.

audrey77
02-04-2006, 10:17 PM
Thats something alright. He has one of those haircuts with the head shaved up to the ears and the top all one length to the ears. This is a kid.

I wanted to highlight the second picture. It looked like his hands were behind his back, but highlighted it looks like he is carrying a bookbag, suitcase type thing. Hard to see, but its there.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kesse4.jpg

Or he's putting on a jacket as he walks.

I saw a guy or gal in overalls with a white shirt... ???

LvsAMystry
02-05-2006, 01:06 AM
Interesting. I'm not sure if it's a haircut or a hat, it almost looks like it could be a beret or something like that. The clothing and shoe choice is interesting, looks like light colored dress pants, maybe khakis, and a light t-shirt or short-sleeved shirt. But then worn with dark dress shoes. I'm thinking uniform, which means the beret could make sense. I wonder what in the area would require this sort of uniform maybe, if thats what it is.

AlwaysShocked
02-05-2006, 03:44 AM
Those shoes could be black ankle high "dress" sneakers - they look like they come up high on the ankle, sort of like a walking boot sort of thing.

Looks like a beret to me.

I don't understand why this person is "of interest". Where are these photos taken?

Beyond Belief
02-05-2006, 09:53 AM
Golf shirts and docker type pants are very common "uniforms" for golf clubs. I'll ask around today to see what type of stores require that mode of dress for work. I know guys are not allowed to wear Khaki in our business.

Beyond Belief
02-06-2006, 08:13 AM
Okay you guys I blew up a clearer picture of this guy walking. He has an ENVELOPE in his hand looks like priority mail or one of the other carriers.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=fedx.jpg

lymom3
02-06-2006, 01:06 PM
Mailman , UPS????

Beyond Belief
02-06-2006, 02:52 PM
Delivery people, ups, fedx, etc wear uniforms. This guy was headed to mail something. I wonder who has a drop off box in that area?

I am thinking more like a mortgage broker, realtor something on the lines of her business.

After discussing the possible hair style, I have concluded more towards a hat.

Beyond Belief
02-06-2006, 07:25 PM
Listen up you guys. Please someone work on these photos besides me.

How about a skateboard in his hands and thats a helmet................?

Oh, my, I got a face.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kesse5.jpg

Beyond Belief
02-06-2006, 09:09 PM
boy i sure was getting this all wrong. we're not seeing the back of his head, he's looking over his shoulder. this guy is preparing to break in this gate.


Another one to ponder.

Look at the square box on left of gate. The lock. Look under the lock. A white object showed up round like a keyring. I just wonder if facing the camera likes this if the key ring would reflect that large. Remember this is lightened with brush strokes so you have to ignore the brush marks.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kesse7.jpg

lostfaith
02-06-2006, 09:35 PM
I do not see anything. A face? Can you draw a circle around it or something? I am not seeing anything besides a leg and shoe, and possible a box or package? I dont even see anything resembling shoulders or a head! I must be blind! :confused:

Beyond Belief
02-06-2006, 10:41 PM
I wish they would get a lead.

Beyond Belief
02-06-2006, 10:52 PM
tHOSE PICTURES WERE TAKEN NEAR WHERE HER CAR WAS FOUND AT 12 NOON. tHERE WON'T BE ANY MYSTERIES IN THOSE PIC. i WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS WAS 3 AM AS THE PHOTOS WERE LABELED.

Beyond Belief
02-06-2006, 11:18 PM
Face

left original, right darkened. your right.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=facedarker.jpg

Bobbisangel
02-06-2006, 11:40 PM
I do not see anything. A face? Can you draw a circle around it or something? I am not seeing anything besides a leg and shoe, and possible a box or package? I dont even see anything resembling shoulders or a head! I must be blind! :confused:


The only thing that I can clearly see is the leg and shoe. I see something that could be a face but it isn't clear enough and I wouldn't swear to what I'm seeing. I'll be amazed if anyone can identify a person through this picture unless the FBI or someone can really clean it up.

cheko1
02-06-2006, 11:47 PM
The only thing that I can clearly see is the leg and shoe. I see something that could be a face but it isn't clear enough and I wouldn't swear to what I'm seeing. I'll be amazed if anyone can identify a person through this picture unless the FBI or someone can really clean it up.
I can't make it out either. FBI might be able to fix it.

gingersnap
02-07-2006, 12:26 AM
To me it looks as though he is wearing a helmet as well. I agree though, it is very hard to tell anything from the pictures.

Beyond Belief
02-07-2006, 02:45 AM
I want to see more on that car.

Because of glare, I set it as a negative. It looks like one of those sunshades with a man's face with heavy highbrows and moustache. Its in the window up side down so I flipped it in the insert.

The camera seems to loose it images toward the front of the car.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=window.jpg


This is the second photo done in negative, car window highlighted not flipped.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=window3.jpg

Mygirlsadie
02-07-2006, 03:10 AM
Ok what in the world are you guys seeing that i'm not seeing here? I see a figure of a person walking by a gate that is all I can make out of it. Maybe I have blurred vision but I can't see much but bluriness. On another note it's pretty obvious what the outcome of this is going to be. Unless by chance its another one of those 'runaway bride' type of stories but I highly doubt it. I think someone had been watching her and with her previous comments about not feeling safe there that just tells me that she knew something wasnt right.



I want to see more on that car.

Because of glare, I set it as a negative. It looks like one of those sunshades with a man's face with heavy highbrows and moustache. Its in the window up side down so I flipped it in the insert.

The camera seems to loose it images toward the front of the car.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=window.jpg

Beyond Belief
02-07-2006, 03:17 AM
Just looking at the car.

Mygirlsadie
02-07-2006, 03:21 AM
Do you see someone in the car? It's official I need to find the nearest Eye Masters!!! :doh:



Just looking at the car.

Mygirlsadie
02-07-2006, 03:35 AM
If you go to the website you will see the picture of the guy walking by the gate a little more clearly. It appears he is just walking by. I read a little in the guestbook and there is a person who lives in the area who says that the attire is very common amongst resturant workers in that area and that there is 'shady' buisness going on with those types in the area. That could be just grasping at straws but I guess at this point anything is possible.

Beyond Belief
02-07-2006, 03:49 AM
It seems to be common for places like electonics places, etc.

Mygirlsadie
02-07-2006, 04:09 AM
Yes thats true. I went back and read and it didnt say resturant worker it said kitchen worker sorry... Does anyone think that hat could be one of those black beanie style knit hats rolled up? It kind of looks like that to me. It's too bad the camera didnt capture him right in the middle of that gate. But with that sign on the gate I doubt it would of mattered we might of got a better view of that hat/haircut thing though.



It seems to be common for places like electonics places, etc.

Beyond Belief
02-07-2006, 11:40 AM
I just keep thinking about that car. I wonder if they talked to the owner?

This is suppose to be twelve noon. I stood within six feet of my car and could see my reflection perfectly. I have been looking for this guys shadow but couldn't see it. I hope they look at the car for reflections.

lostfaith
02-07-2006, 10:14 PM
Yes thats true. I went back and read and it didnt say resturant worker it said kitchen worker sorry... Does anyone think that hat could be one of those black beanie style knit hats rolled up? It kind of looks like that to me. It's too bad the camera didnt capture him right in the middle of that gate. But with that sign on the gate I doubt it would of mattered we might of got a better view of that hat/haircut thing though.


To me it looks like a black beret. Is that how you spell it? You know, like the Green Berets. Or, what about those wedge haircuts, where it is shaved up the back and sides and ends in a wedge of hair. But I am leaning more towards a beret. I wonder why they are zeroing in on this image. It was in the afternoon, I would assume lots of people walked by. Why is this one important?

Bobbisangel
02-07-2006, 10:39 PM
Tonight on Nancy Jennifer's boyfriend was told that there was a rumor that Jennifer had been afraid of someone at the complex...was that true? He said that she was only 24 yr and it is the first time that she had lived by herself so she was just a little uneasy about being alone. It seems that it is just a rumor that she was afraid of someone there. Another member of her family said the same thing recently.

Jennifer's parents said that nothing was out of order at her condo. Her makeup was out....her night clothes were on the floor in the bathroom and there were a couple outfits laying out that she must have tried on that morning while getting ready for work. So they feel that she got ready for work and left her condo and something happened after she closed her door.

Her boyfriend said that he talked to Jennifer at 10:00 the night before and she was in bed. She was tired as she had just gotten back from a vacation.
He also said that they always talked in the morning before going to work. He didn't get a call that morning so he left her a voice mail. Later he left another voice mail. She never returned his calls. He said he didn't really worry about it though because he had an early meeting and he figured she was busy just getting back to work after the vacation.

I think it had to be someone who either lives at her complex....or a worker...or someone that was leaving one of the condos that morning. Maybe someone who had been visiting someone or a lover or boyfriend who was just leaving after spending the night.

I think that because when whoever took her car to the place where it was found the person headed right back to her condo complex. They knew enough about the complex to know where to go in without going through the main gate. The dog followed the person's scent right up to her condo or to the steps anyway. If it wasn't someone from there or with connections there why would the person go right back over there? That wouldn't make sense.
Hadn't her car been missing for 2-3 days? Anyone without connections to the complex wouldn't have any reason to go back over there. You would think that they would stay as far away as possible. Jennifer's parents said that nothing was missing from the condo.

concernedperson
02-07-2006, 10:52 PM
You are exactly correct in your thinking. I am on the same page.

Beyond Belief
02-07-2006, 10:56 PM
Is this possible?
POI parks car walks to Jennifers condo.
Drives Jennifers car back to his car.
Would dog catch the scent if its in the car and also on the path even though the order was not from car to condo, but from his car to condo, but back in her car.

LvsAMystry
02-08-2006, 12:12 AM
That's interesting about she and her boyfriend talking every morning before they left for work, but he didn't get the call that morning. Talking before they left implies it should have been before she even walked out of her condo. Is it possible that aside from maintenance, others had access to keys that fit all units? Possible especially if there were some units still under construction. It just makes me wonder that something like that occurred, or maybe even someone knocked on her door. It also bothers me that it isn't clear whether the clothes laid out were items she decided against wearing or items she'd planned on wearing but was interrupted.

Mygirlsadie
02-08-2006, 04:19 AM
I wonder why this one is important also. LE may know a little more then they are letting on to the public as to not alert the POI..but I don't know, and yea it does look like it could be a beret. Or you know for some reason I keep thinking of those haircuts that the men have that live in Isreal they are a certain Jewish religion I can't think of the exact name of it. Maybe just Jewish lol I dont know.



To me it looks like a black beret. Is that how you spell it? You know, like the Green Berets. Or, what about those wedge haircuts, where it is shaved up the back and sides and ends in a wedge of hair. But I am leaning more towards a beret. I wonder why they are zeroing in on this image. It was in the afternoon, I would assume lots of people walked by. Why is this one important?

Beyond Belief
02-08-2006, 02:35 PM
I think these more going on in this clip than we see. OR this film has been used so many times there are other images that can be pulled up when doing negatives or solarized. There are so many reflections on that car, either theres more action going on or theyre just reflections. I hope this man's face is in one of those reflections.

aussiegran
02-08-2006, 03:07 PM
Orlando police confirmed to Local 6 News Wednesday that investigators have utilized the department's polygrapher in the search for missing Orlando woman Jennifer Kesse.
Kesse, 24, was reported missing several weeks ago after she did not show up for work at Westgate Resorts in Ocoee, Fla.


Officials said they will not disclose who received a polygraph test or how many polygraphs have been administered.


A polygraph is an instrument that simultaneously records changes in physiological processes such as heartbeat, blood pressure and respiration, often used as a lie detector.
CSI Teams Continue Search



Meanwhile, crime scene technicians were back at an Orlando apartment complex this week where Kesse's car was found after she mysteriously vanished last month.
Local 6 News has learned that investigators have been focusing on a surveillance camera lodged in a roof of the clubhouse at the Huntington on the Green apartments.


The camera captured several images of a person of interest who may have information about Kesse's whereabouts. The person was photographed through a gate that surrounds a pool at the complex.
http://www.local6.com/news/6838344/detail.html
.......................
:( I hope they find her soon .I wonder why they wont say who they did a polygraph on.

Beyond Belief
02-08-2006, 03:33 PM
I think he went over the fence.

Bobbisangel
02-08-2006, 05:50 PM
Is this possible?
POI parks car walks to Jennifers condo.
Drives Jennifers car back to his car.
Would dog catch the scent if its in the car and also on the path even though the order was not from car to condo, but from his car to condo, but back in her car.



If the person lives in the same complex that Jennifer lives in he probably left his car there and got her when she came out to her car to leave for work. He could have asked for a ride somewhere saying his car won't start and he has to get to work or something like that. I think they took her car and sometime after they left he gained control of her. I think he did whatever he did with Jennifer...stashed her car somewhere...went back and got it a couple days later....parked it where it was found and walked the mile back to the condo complex and went over the fence where he knew he couldn't be seen.

He was the last person to sit in Jennifer's car. The dog picked up his scent from the car and followed it the mile back to the condo...over the fence and to the entrance of her condo.

In answer to another poster.....Jennifer's parents seemed to believe that Jennifer tried on a couple outfits and discarded them before she decided on the outfit that she wore that morning. They don't believe that anything took place in the condo.

lostfaith
02-08-2006, 06:19 PM
O.K. I know I am going to slap myself for saying this, but...... She had just returned from vacation, right? Had anyone actually, really seen her or talked to her since she had returned? Had her parents talked to her since she had returned? Friends? brother?

just askin"

13th Juror
02-08-2006, 07:54 PM
Drew, Joyce & Logan Kesse were apparently on the CBS Morning Show today - according to my local evening news.

Tonight - Wed., Feb. 8th - more national exposure. The Kesse family will be on "Larry King Live". 9 pm - midnight & 3 am EST.

"Breaking News" regarding the possibility of a nerve agent in the attic of a Senate office building in the Capitol dominated several hours of CNN tonight. (6:30-10:00 pm) The Kesse family has been re-scheduled for Monday night (2/13) on LKL.


From our local TV news - Orlando Police have polygraphed numerous people. They won't say who or how many. Kesse family was just made aware of that fact. Sounded like they were not a part of the group polygraphed.

It was also reported that the police STILL have 58 hours of videotape to review. (More from the camera mounted atop the Clubhouse, I believe.)

Wouldn't ya' think that would have been completed a week or 2 ago???

As for the clothes 'laid out' in Jen's apartment - rather than Jen 'trying on clothes' that morning - it quite possible that while unpacking - several outfits from her trip hadn't been put away yet. After all - her nightclothes were found dropped on the bathroom floor - so, she doesn't sound like a neat freak to me.

13th Juror

Beyond Belief
02-08-2006, 08:34 PM
Since she is a professional I would think the clothes laid out would be that type and not casual weekend wear.

She arrived at work on Monday straight from the vacation. Last spoken too Monday night. Early on I thought I read something about going to mail something, but I haven't gotten any information about that since.
Does anyone know anymore about what was to be mailed?

I believe this guy in the video is carrying what they think is the gym bag they found in the trash.

This is really small, but I found it just above the hedge.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kesseguy.jpg

I wanted to show you what kind of things I do to these pictures.
This is solarized and colored. Not naturally colors.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=Solarizedandcolorpicture.jpg

SewingDeb
02-08-2006, 11:39 PM
O.K. I know I am going to slap myself for saying this, but...... She had just returned from vacation, right? Had anyone actually, really seen her or talked to her since she had returned? Had her parents talked to her since she had returned? Friends? brother?

just askin"


That's the same thing I was wondering.

LaMer
02-09-2006, 12:39 AM
Since she is a professional I would think the clothes laid out would be that type and not casual weekend wear.

She arrived at work on Monday straight from the vacation. Last spoken too Monday night. Early on I thought I read something about going to mail something, but I haven't gotten any information about that since.
Does anyone know anymore about what was to be mailed?

I believe this guy in the video is carrying what they think is the gym bag they found in the trash.

This is really small, but I found it just above the hedge.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kesseguy.jpg

I wanted to show you what kind of things I do to these pictures.
This is solarized and colored. Not naturally colors.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=Solarizedandcolorpicture.jpg

Hi Beyond and all!

I figured the Websleuthers would have all the media reports posted here, as I have been hearing about Jennifer's disappearance night after night. I thought possibly I was getting her mixed up with someone else, so I read ALL the articles here. Thanks Again All! Have to add, I wasn't getting her mixed up.

Lets see, ah Sewing Deb, from just reading all the articles posted here, the only time the package was mentioned, was in the very first media posting here, nere another mention of it, and nothing about who Jennifer might have mentioned a 'mailing' to.

I did read where the dog, BO, sniffed the seat to get the scent, which led back to Jennifer's condo, one article stated BO went to the staircase, another article, stated, went to her door.

Like I said, I read everything here, but not sure if this was mentioned. To me it's not likely it was Jennifer BO was following. Say, Jennifer had gotten into her car that morning to go to work, and she was 'carjacked' (I think that is when someone opens the driver's door and forces their way into one's car.

Then as someone posted, perp found her address, as her purse is missing. But why go there or go back?

OR~If it was a maintenance person, who perhaps arrived that AM at Jennifer's condo to do some work, approached her as she was leaving, conned her into possibly needing a ride or forced him/herself into her car, then later he might have realized he lost something (incriminating) and went back for it, being it's not likely BO was following Jennifer's scent.

Comes to mind a 'work-order'- but there should be records of what and where and who.

Sorry my mind's going wild here.

Another thought, if a 'worker', and I read where the complex was in the process of going from apts to condos, and only a few were occupied in Jennifer's section. This would account for all the workers and Jennifer's concern about so many being around. They are more than likely still converting.

I suppose, from what I have heard, her boyfriend isn't involved. I must admit tho, I'm not sure. Seems, I might have heard he had an alibi, did he? What was it? I read here she called him Mon. night at 10 PM. If cell phone, he could've been anywhere, but I suppose that has been checked. It was also that eve when she talked to he dad --talking outloud here.

I am so sick of so many women going missing, I pray, Jennifer is only being held somewhere and she returns, alive. My heart goes out to her family.

I have a condo in FL, and can remember having several workers stop by for repairs etc.~~~I was always freaked out, when I was there alone and they would come by. I usually stood by the door, ready to run.

Beyond, thanks for the pics, but I'm having problems making anything out. lol it's me eyes me thinks.

I hope I made sense here.

OMG, I wrote a chapter LOL that's why I lurk more than post lol

Mygirlsadie
02-09-2006, 01:15 AM
I had hubby clean that picture up and the reflections are actually tree branches. Also he is holding something and its hanging down it's black possibly a crowbar/stick? You can see it through the fence openings.



I think these more going on in this clip than we see. OR this film has been used so many times there are other images that can be pulled up when doing negatives or solarized. There are so many reflections on that car, either theres more action going on or theyre just reflections. I hope this man's face is in one of those reflections.

Mygirlsadie
02-09-2006, 01:20 AM
That face looked creepy. So someone was hiding in the bush while the other guy was walking by?



Since she is a professional I would think the clothes laid out would be that type and not casual weekend wear.

She arrived at work on Monday straight from the vacation. Last spoken too Monday night. Early on I thought I read something about going to mail something, but I haven't gotten any information about that since.
Does anyone know anymore about what was to be mailed?

I believe this guy in the video is carrying what they think is the gym bag they found in the trash.

This is really small, but I found it just above the hedge.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kesseguy.jpg

I wanted to show you what kind of things I do to these pictures.
This is solarized and colored. Not naturally colors.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=Solarizedandcolorpicture.jpg

texasgirl
02-09-2006, 01:50 AM
Ugh, can't see anything either!!! (Eyemasters, here I come!)

Here I should be finalizing the last minute details of my wedding and instead I'm trying to find faces and crowbars in pictures.

I wish I could see SOMETHING!!!

fundiva
02-09-2006, 02:13 AM
That's the same thing I was wondering.
I heard her father on TV and he indicated that she had spoken to him after returning from vacation and was telling him about the trip. He said she also spoke to her mother in that conversation. I believe I also heard that they had confirmed from phone records that the boyfriend was 3 hrs. away in Ft. Lauderdale when they spoke at 10:00.

Mygirlsadie
02-09-2006, 03:41 AM
:laugh:



Ugh, can't see anything either!!! (Eyemasters, here I come!)

Here I should be finalizing the last minute details of my wedding and instead I'm trying to find faces and crowbars in pictures.

I wish I could see SOMETHING!!!

lostfaith
02-09-2006, 04:13 AM
I had hubby clean that picture up and the reflections are actually tree branches. Also he is holding something and its hanging down it's black possibly a crowbar/stick? You can see it through the fence openings.



Sadie, is it possible for you to post the picture your hubby cleaned up? Or did you get rid of it allready?

Mygirlsadie
02-09-2006, 04:19 AM
Sure I will have him do it again and I will post it. I didnt save it.



Sadie, is it possible for you to post the picture your hubby cleaned up? Or did you get rid of it allready?

lostfaith
02-09-2006, 04:36 AM
Sure I will have him do it again and I will post it. I didnt save it.


Great! Thanks! Take your time though, I'm off to bed, it is 3:30 in the morning here!

petra
02-09-2006, 06:55 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/07/ng.01.html

Beyond Belief
02-09-2006, 07:58 AM
So her ipod was missing also.

Employer says she wasn't shedule for off property on Tuesday. She didn't answer her cell phone prior to 9 am (boyfriends meeting).

I wonder what time she was scheduled to start work.
I wonder what time the alarm was set for.
That would be the window of opportunity.

petra
02-09-2006, 08:15 AM
So her ipod was missing also.

Employer says she wasn't shedule for off property on Tuesday. She didn't answer her cell phone prior to 9 am (boyfriends meeting).

I wonder what time she was scheduled to start work.
I wonder what time the alarm was set for.
That would be the window of opportunity.
so many questions not answered. you are good BB-
i posted the transcripts, but haven't read them yet. LOL

there is just so much info in the morning i can absorb!

Beyond Belief
02-09-2006, 08:22 AM
I'd also like to know what her habits with the ipod are.......like does she go walking in the a.m.........drive with it......

I still want to know about the original thing said about mailing something. I wonder if it was something she needed to mailfor work, and if there is someone at work who would know exactly where she would be at what time that morning.
Is this a real estate crime? Did she meet someone, off the record, on her way to work? Did she grab a commission from another employee, who got ticked off? Does she work with rentals?
Who called and left messages while she was on vacation. What phone calls were made on her cell phone?

If they think the poi is walking away from her car at noon on Tues, then he had her and her car for at least 4 hours someplace. She could be anywhere.

He may have only wanted the use of the car. I wonder what else happened that day. Bank robberies, store robberies, etc. that the car could have been used in.

13th Juror
02-09-2006, 12:49 PM
WKMG - local 6 noon news - Thurs. 2/9/06

The "picture of the POI" people have been seeing on the news & internet 'may be' a bit misleading. Definitely NOT a good pic to start with.

Crime scene technicians who have been working with the surveillance video & the images say that the images may NOT be an accurate representation of the color of the shirt & pants that the poi is wearing. Although it appears that the shirt is white - that is only because of the camera & the clothing could actually be 'any color'.

Meantime - Kesse's friends, family & a number of volunteers are back at the Mall at Millenia as they are preparing for another mass search effort this weekend. Last weekend - they had 1100 volunteers who helped with the search effort. This weekend, they are hoping for a repeat.

Calls are currently being made to all the volunteers who came out last weekend and asking those folks to come back & bring their friends, neighbors, co-workers. Police officers & firefighters (on their own time) have been coming out all week to help with the search.

Anyone wishing to help find Jennifer can come to the "Mall at Millenia Community Room" today or tomorrow between 8:30 am & 5 pm and register with Child Watch.

(personal opinion: It's a simple easy registration - and you receive a picture ID that you wear to identify yourself as a Child Watch volunteer.)

It was reported that Jennifer Kesse's friends & family are coming up with some creative new ways to get the word out about her disappearance. More on that will be revealed in the evening broadcast.

CRIMELINE - 1 800 423 - TIPS

13th Juror

Beyond Belief
02-09-2006, 01:47 PM
Well thats interesting about the color of the clothing. I also see alot of creases in the trousers which could mean that they are cargo pants of some kind. The shirt is probably a t shirt. I think I'll look at it will color again.

concernedperson
02-09-2006, 02:14 PM
This is some new info.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/wesh/20060209/lo_wesh/3256473

Beyond Belief
02-10-2006, 12:02 AM
I think everyone was thinking about a workman. He's probably wearing a toolbelt and carrying tools. I also thought it was strange that he would appear at 12 noon which would be the time construction workers break for lunch. I wonder if one of them did a disappearing act during the morning hours. That apt being unlocked and empty is a place that should be investigated.
This is something weird I saw the first photo, so I'll share. I was coloring on his shirt. Look at the lines coming from the neckline, joining at the bottom with something round-like at the bottom of the V.
Could be a necklace, a zipper, a stethoscope.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=Zipper.jpg

13th Juror
02-10-2006, 12:22 AM
"On The Record" - Greta

Before Greta left for Hopkinton, MA to cover the Entwistle case tonight - "live" outside of the family home - she & her crew made a trip earlier today to Orlando to cover the Kesse disappearance.

Accompanied by Drew & Joyce Kesse - Greta took a videotaped tour inside Jennifer's condo, the storage area, parking lot (Jen's space 2226), Huntington On The Green condos where her car was located, the gated pool area where the poi was captured on film, etc ...

Only the front of the Condos where Jennifer lived was gated & secured. The back part (woods area) was not gated or secured in any way. There were NO security cameras anywhere - something that the parents said they had been beating themselves up about. They said the gated entrance was deceiving as the condos appeared so secure that they didn't consider the lack of security cameras. From the interview - I got the distinct feeling that Jennifer's parents had purchased the $200,000.+ condo for her.

Also - the front door locks had NOT been changed yet as Jennifer still had repairs being done from her 'punch list' and maintenance would need access to the residence.

The clothes left on Jen's unmade bed were 2 skirts and a pair of slacks. The clothes she wore to work on Monday were still laying neatly on the back of a chair in the bedroom.

After returning from her St. Croix trip - Jen had spoken with her Mom on Monday morning as they were both driving to work. She spoke on the phone with her Dad at 6:30 pm as she returned home that Mon. evening. 10 p.m. - a conversation with her boyfriend in Ft. Lauderdale. Tuesday a.m. Jennifer Kesse was missing.

The Kesse segment comes on about 41 minutes into the program. Worth watching if you are interested in this case.

13th Juror

petra
02-10-2006, 12:28 AM
thanks, 13th Juror--so sad that we learn these things in hindsight and in this case a tragic one. i think we all take so much of this for granted and learn the worse when something bad happens.

I know I do...this is a very, very good reminder.

LaMer
02-10-2006, 01:05 AM
"On The Record" - Greta

Before Greta left for Hopkinton, MA to cover the Entwistle case tonight - "live" outside of the family home - she & her crew made a trip earlier today to Orlando to cover the Kesse disappearance.

Accompanied by Drew & Joyce Kesse - Greta took a videotaped tour inside Jennifer's condo, the storage area, parking lot (Jen's space 2226), Huntington On The Green condos where her car was located, the gated pool area where the poi was captured on film, etc ...

Only the front of the Condos where Jennifer lived was gated & secured. The back part (woods area) was not gated or secured in any way. There were NO security cameras anywhere - something that the parents said they had been beating themselves up about. They said the gated entrance was deceiving as the condos appeared so secure that they didn't consider the lack of security cameras. From the interview - I got the distinct feeling that Jennifer's parents had purchased the $200,000.+ condo for her.

Also - the front door locks had NOT been changed yet as Jennifer still had repairs being done from her 'punch list' and maintenance would need access to the residence.

The clothes left on Jen's unmade bed were 2 skirts and a pair of slacks. The clothes she wore to work on Monday were still laying neatly on the back of a chair in the bedroom.

After returning from her St. Croix trip - Jen had spoken with her Mom on Monday morning as they were both driving to work. She spoke on the phone with her Dad at 6:30 pm as she returned home that Mon. evening. 10 p.m. - a conversation with her boyfriend in Ft. Lauderdale. Tuesday a.m. Jennifer Kesse was missing.

The Kesse segment comes on about 41 minutes into the program. Worth watching if you are interested in this case.

13th Juror


Good review 13th Juror! I also saw the program, and the lady LE officer pointed out how the posts of the fence blocked a view of the passerby by the security camera. IMO that security camera is a guise of false security.

Lots of Condo residences have the gates, but they mean nothing. Not unless they also have the entire area fenced in and have a guard house, with a fulltime attentdant on duty.

Even when they are admittable by 'code' or having a resident unlock the gate from their condo, any driver can follow another driver right in.

Oh and also, one of the media reports stated, Jennifer's parent said, Jennifer was so proud because she had bought the condo on her own.

kato
02-10-2006, 08:26 AM
"On The Record" - Greta

Before Greta left for Hopkinton, MA to cover the Entwistle case tonight - "live" outside of the family home - she & her crew made a trip earlier today to Orlando to cover the Kesse disappearance.

Accompanied by Drew & Joyce Kesse - Greta took a videotaped tour inside Jennifer's condo, the storage area, parking lot (Jen's space 2226), Huntington On The Green condos where her car was located, the gated pool area where the poi was captured on film, etc ...

Only the front of the Condos where Jennifer lived was gated & secured. The back part (woods area) was not gated or secured in any way. There were NO security cameras anywhere - something that the parents said they had been beating themselves up about. They said the gated entrance was deceiving as the condos appeared so secure that they didn't consider the lack of security cameras. From the interview - I got the distinct feeling that Jennifer's parents had purchased the $200,000.+ condo for her.

Also - the front door locks had NOT been changed yet as Jennifer still had repairs being done from her 'punch list' and maintenance would need access to the residence.

The clothes left on Jen's unmade bed were 2 skirts and a pair of slacks. The clothes she wore to work on Monday were still laying neatly on the back of a chair in the bedroom.

After returning from her St. Croix trip - Jen had spoken with her Mom on Monday morning as they were both driving to work. She spoke on the phone with her Dad at 6:30 pm as she returned home that Mon. evening. 10 p.m. - a conversation with her boyfriend in Ft. Lauderdale. Tuesday a.m. Jennifer Kesse was missing.

The Kesse segment comes on about 41 minutes into the program. Worth watching if you are interested in this case.

13th Juror


Darn, I fell asleep.

Mellen
02-10-2006, 09:36 AM
Good review 13th Juror! I also saw the program, and the lady LE officer pointed out how the posts of the fence blocked a view of the passerby by the security camera. IMO that security camera is a guise of false security.

Lots of Condo residences have the gates, but they mean nothing. Not unless they also have the entire area fenced in and have a guard house, with a fulltime attentdant on duty.

Even when they are admittable by 'code' or having a resident unlock the gate from their condo, any driver can follow another driver right in.

Oh and also, one of the media reports stated, Jennifer's parent said, Jennifer was so proud because she had bought the condo on her own.Wow, what is the point of only gating the front! I never knew places did that. I assumed if they had security, they went all out. That is really disturbing. Do they really think criminals are that dumb? Also, I would think that the front gate would give most residents a false sense of security that might cause them to let their guard down more than if they were living somewhere without any security. I think it's horrifying that something like this happened to someone that *did* have concerns. Just the fact that she mentioned concerns means she did have her guard up, and someone still got to her.

kato
02-10-2006, 09:44 AM
I know that in alot of places when you sign a lease even when there are security gates and such they say that they really aren't "security gates" and they are not responsible for your personal protection.

13th Juror
02-10-2006, 12:36 PM
Good review 13th Juror! I also saw the program, and the lady LE officer pointed out how the posts of the fence blocked a view of the passerby by the security camera. IMO that security camera is a guise of false security.

Lots of Condo residences have the gates, but they mean nothing. Not unless they also have the entire area fenced in and have a guard house, with a fulltime attentdant on duty.

Even when they are admittable by 'code' or having a resident unlock the gate from their condo, any driver can follow another driver right in.

Oh and also, one of the media reports stated, Jennifer's parent said, Jennifer was so proud because she had bought the condo on her own.




Good morning LaMer n' all :)

I'm so glad someone besides me saw the segment. lol

Yes, I agree - Barbara Jones (I believe that's her name) with the Orlando Police Dept accompanied Greta at the site where the car was located. I noticed when she was showing Greta the gated pool/clubhouse area where the camera is located on top of the clubhouse building - that the sidewalk outside of the gates where the POI was walking was at least another 10 feet from the iron fencing. IMO - the quality of the photographs is extremely poor.


I have to admit - I was appalled to learn that the entire condo complex was not secured by an appropriate wall or secure fencing. Also that there were apparently NO security cameras at the gated entrance.

Personal note ...

We live in what's called a bedroom community in the suburbs of NW Seminole Co. - just north of Orlando & Orange Co. Thankfully, our entire community is walled - not just the gated security area at the guard house. There are security cameras as well as closed circuit TV. The security personnel know all the residents. If a person who is not a resident attempts to gain entry - the resident is called for permission.

Because I felt so safe - a careless mistake to be sure - I rarely ever locked my doors during the day or took the kind of precautions that all of us should - no matter where we live. I truly learned my lesson the hard way.

A teen-age neighbor & a couple of his buddies (who were all residents here) were "bored" last summer and broke into several homes in our community - letting themselves in through unlocked screened patio doors in the pool deck area. They proceeded to help themselves to cash, checks, credit cards, coin collections, jewelry, laptops, blackberrys, DVDs, electronic equipment, "a gun", and the list goes on & on. In all - 13 homes were burglarized that I am aware of. These were "spoiled over-indulged kids" from prominent families who already had it all - more "stuff" than any of them needed to amuse themselves.

One kid's father is a well known criminal defense attorney - another is a board certified cardiologist - another owns several highly successful restaurant franchises. Needless to say - these "kids" are well represented legally and will probably never receive 'the justice' they truly deserve.

Bottom line - I learned a really valuable lesson and am MUCH more careful about my personal security & that of my family & home. I am no longer naive or careless about security & safety.

And I totally agree with LaMer that the remote devices (like garage door openers) or punch in keypads for codes that open gates at many gated communities are almost worthless. People sneak in behind the vehicle in front of them all the time. False sense of security to be sure!


Back to the Greta broadcast...

One could really feel the desperation that the Kesse parents are experiencing over the disappearance of their daughter. I simply can not imagine what they are going through! It's inconceivable to me.

As Jennifer's Mom said - 'Aliens did not take her!' - 'we are not ignorant people (they know the probabilities) but we are keeping a positive energy in our thoughts & search for Jen.'

To whoever has her -- they are tenacious & not giving up.

I am so pleased that Greta made the trip down here yesterday to give these parents the national exposure they needed. If I'm not mistaken - (unless it gets bumped again) I think Larry King still has the Kesse family scheduled for this coming Monday night (2/13).

13th Juror

LaMer
02-10-2006, 01:19 PM
Good Morning 13th Juror and ALL!

In today's news: Saying the person in the security picture, man not have been wearing white

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-mcfbriefs10_406feb10,0,7018331.story?coll=orl-news-headlines-orange


I would love to know if they have a suspect, being LE gave one person a polygraph test. Could it have been a worker, or possibly the boyfriend?

I can't remember reading if he had an alibi. Only that he lived about 3 hours away. Does anyone know?

ketel0ne
02-10-2006, 07:59 PM
New Details Released In Disappearance Of Jennifer Kesse (http://www.wftv.com/news/6912982/detail.html)



POSTED: 4:37 pm EST February 10, 2006
UPDATED: 5:31 pm EST February 10, 2006


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Late Friday afternoon, Channel 9 confirmed new information about the disappearance of Jennifer Kesse. The 24-year-old woman has been missing for more than two and a half weeks.

Police are confirming that Jennifer may have left her home at Mosaic at Millenia on Monday night or Tuesday morning looking for a roadside mailbox to mail a package. They will not say where or whether she made it there, but the package is also missing.

Jennifer's family now confirms her younger brother Logan had stayed at her condo with several of his friends while she was on vacation the weekend before she vanished. Police have had that information from the beginning.

"Absolutely they've looked at them. They've had multiple discussions with them. They will go through the same thing everyone else will go through," said Jennifer's father, Drew.

Channel 9 has also learned one of those friends left a cell phone at Jennifer’s condo and asked her to overnight it. The Monday night or Tuesday morning she disappeared, she may have left her condo looking for a roadside drop box to mail that cell phone. The package is missing and never made it to its destination.

More at link..........

PrayersForMaura
02-10-2006, 09:18 PM
New Details Released In Disappearance Of Jennifer Kesse (http://www.wftv.com/news/6912982/detail.html)



POSTED: 4:37 pm EST February 10, 2006
UPDATED: 5:31 pm EST February 10, 2006


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Late Friday afternoon, Channel 9 confirmed new information about the disappearance of Jennifer Kesse. The 24-year-old woman has been missing for more than two and a half weeks.

Police are confirming that Jennifer may have left her home at Mosaic at Millenia on Monday night or Tuesday morning looking for a roadside mailbox to mail a package. They will not say where or whether she made it there, but the package is also missing.

Jennifer's family now confirms her younger brother Logan had stayed at her condo with several of his friends while she was on vacation the weekend before she vanished. Police have had that information from the beginning.

"Absolutely they've looked at them. They've had multiple discussions with them. They will go through the same thing everyone else will go through," said Jennifer's father, Drew.

Channel 9 has also learned one of those friends left a cell phone at Jennifer’s condo and asked her to overnight it. The Monday night or Tuesday morning she disappeared, she may have left her condo looking for a roadside drop box to mail that cell phone. The package is missing and never made it to its destination.

More at link..........
Well this seems bizarre

Jovin
02-10-2006, 10:08 PM
How come we didn't hear about the brother and his friends staying there before this? That immediately puts a different light on this subject, I'd say.

Rachael
02-10-2006, 10:21 PM
I don't think the brother had anything to do with that (if that's what people are speculating). I doubt the friends did either but I could be wrong. I am sure the brother and the friend feel terrible if she went missing while going to a mailbox to send the phone back.

Jovin
02-10-2006, 10:26 PM
give the impression that the brother had anything to do with it, but it said his "friends" were there also. It wouldn't be the first time that this type of thing happened, where a 'friend' of a family member is involved in a murder of a loved one.

Anyway, it's just that I thought it was strange that the parents hadn't mentioned the fact that anyone had stayed there, as they were touring the apartment with Greta and showing how her clothes were left and such. To me it just seems like it should have been mentioned before this.

LaMer
02-10-2006, 11:28 PM
Tonight on Gretta, Barbara Jones of the Orlando PD, was asked some more questions about the bloodhounds which were used for tracking from Jennifer's car. They used 2 dogs. Gretta was asking her some more specific questions in that regard, BJ said, the dog handlers told her the dogs picked up the 'freshest scent' and went to the parking lot of Jennifer's condo, where Jennifer would park her car.

Nothing about the dog/s going up the walkway or to the door of Jen's condo.

Also discussed was the colors of the person's clothing viewed in the surveilance camera. She said it may appear lighter than it actually is. In addition, BJ noted the person's hair style, maybe the way the hair is cut in the back, and they are visiting some hair shops in the area, to see if they can get any input, and perhaps someone could shed some light on the style ect. or where they might get their hair done.

BJ admitted, she didn't know much about how or what the tracking of the dogs meant in this case. I wish we would hear from the handlers to explain the what/why/where of their venture that day. It has me baffled as why it 'ends' there. Especially if it was someone other than Jennifer's track it was following. Someone goes poof? I don't get it. Or was this a common path Jennifer always traveled? Anyone? thoughts?

Beyond Belief
02-11-2006, 01:59 AM
I know all kinds of crazy pictures show up in these images, but this one is the thing in the person hand. I'm not sure what it is, but could be fire extinguisher, a sprinkler head, or even a thermos. I lightened the area around it, but you might have to blow it up.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=carry1.jpg

docwho3
02-11-2006, 04:40 AM
I need to get some better pics off some news sites to work from but one thing I think might be a possibility: It appears that part of the still pic they released shows a blurred area due to arm movement and it looks like a watch band on one arm, possibly the right arm but it is hard to say for sure. Also it appears that just maybe there is the tip of a tool that is being carried on the left side towards the road.

crypto6
02-11-2006, 09:19 AM
I know all kinds of crazy pictures show up in these images, but this one is the thing in the person hand. I'm not sure what it is, but could be fire extinguisher, a sprinkler head, or even a thermos. I lightened the area around it, but you might have to blow it up.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=carry1.jpg

Nice work with these photos.
What software do you use??

About the poi as workman: If these stills are from the apartment complex, and not Jennifer's condos, how much work is being done at the apartments, if any? This guy may be anyone: a delivery person, salesman, street artist. I'm assuming LE has some other video which places this guy at or near her car which they are not revealing yet. And if we postulate that this poi walked back to the condos, wouldn't someone with a tool belt, crowbar or fire extinguisher look out of place walking on the sidewalk away from any construction??

As far as having keys to Jen's place in the hands of her condo's workmen, now we have her brother and friends to factor in if we postulate she was taken in her condo.

Beyond Belief
02-11-2006, 09:20 AM
Has any information surface about what brand the shoes are? One shot did looked like turned up pointed toes, then another looked turned up but straight across the front. I defintely have variation showing more than one color. Maybe light color on back of heel.
A layered looked going up the ankle. Socks, then maybe pants with cuff or rolled up.


Using paint shop pro. Trying to touch as little as possible, but lightening the image then brush lightly to see what shows.

Somethings telling me this guy also has a cell phone to his ear, maybe on the other side of his face. If you wanted to establish an alibi, of course you would make a phone call. Probably a call he makes everyday at noon time.

Beyond Belief
02-11-2006, 12:37 PM
I hope this guy was stupid enough to make some calls on the missing cell phone.

13th Juror
02-11-2006, 04:03 PM
The interview with Jennifer's brother, Logan, on WESH TV (channel 2 news) that aired yesterday evening had me thinking of alternate scenarios.

Apparently Logan had been using & in possession of "a friend's cell phone" that he said he left on Jen's nightstand. When he realized he had left it there - he called her & requested that she 'overnight the phone' to his friend (because it was his fault!) and he gave her the mailing address.

This call to Jen had to have occurred on Monday - probably in the evening. She spoke on the phone with her boyfriend at 10 pm. As brother Logan wanted the phone "overnighted" - I'm wondering if Jennifer didn't attempt to make the relatively short trek out to the airport area where there is a huge Fed Ex, UPS & an extended hours main post office. The plus for that decision is that there is much less traffic & congestion late at night - not to mention no long wait lines for counter help & one's package can be on a plane the same night. I've made that late-nite trek to FedEx a number of times and honestly do not recommend it for any woman all by herself.

If Jen already had the packing materials and proper postage or an acct. with UPS or FedEx - she could have simply gone out and looked for a more localized drop box. Perhaps, that's what she did.

I'm remembering that she did not answer her phone at 9 am - did not have her usual 'before work' conversation with her boyfriend that morning. Somehow - I do not think Jen was abducted from her apt. I think "something happened to her" after she left to mail that cell phone for her brother.

Robbery for drug money? Sexual assault? Murdered - because she fought back? I don't know - I hope not. (Her parents are convinced she's alive!) I do know that there are a lot of unsavory areas out that way that I would never want to traverse alone - but, especially at night.

I'm also wondering why Logan & his friends were staying in Jen's new condo while she was on vacation with her boyfriend?

Where does Logan normally live?

Why was Logan utilizing 'a friend's cell phone'? He doesn't have his own phone??

If he's 'local' - why didn't he go back over to the condo and retrieve the forgotton cell phone on his own & make the effort to mail it back to "his friend"? He clearly said it was 'his fault' that "he" left it there - not that his friend left it there. JMO - but, he sounded rather irresponsible to me.

The family - parents & Logan, are still asking in news conferences here locally that the perpetrator just let Jen go. The latest community search began again this morning at 8:30 - a beautiful morning, great weather. Turned windy & rainy this afternoon and temps are dropping.

The Kesse family interview taped by Larry King Live several days ago (when it was preempted by breaking news of a possible poisonous agent in the attic of a Senate office building) was aired last night in the 9 pm & midnight time slots. It was the first 8 minutes of the program. The 3 am show preempted the Kesse segment altogether as CNN was continuously following the breaking news story of Israeli PM Sharon's most recent setback & surgery.

I'm not aware what the funds are being used for but, the family is requesting donations to the Jennifer Kesse trust fund - at any Bank of America location.

WFTV - (9 Investigates) uncovered information that Orlando based "Child Watch of North America" utilizes 91% of all their donations to cover their own salaries. They (Child Watch) were soliciting donations when I was there last weekend - prior to the "9 Investigates" report being aired. Don't know about now. Will post link later if I can find one.


Edited to add:

I just reviewed the interview Logan gave on a different channel - WFTV. In this 'later' interview - Logan says that his friend left behind the now missing cell phone and he just contacted Jen on Monday evening for her to mail it to his friend. Said Jen would do it the following day. The cell phone was never received by the "friend". So -- who knows which story is factually correct or even if it matters. Either way - Jennifer is still missing. :(

Logan also said Jen had driven back from Ft. Lauderdale on Monday morning & went straight to work - not returning to her condo until that evening. Said that Jen & her boyfriend had been together for about a year and were very much in love. One of the family members (Mom?) said on LKL that Jen & her boyfriend traveled back & forth between Lauderdale & Orlando each weekend - and that "he" was as devastated as they were.


13th Juror

13th Juror
02-11-2006, 05:16 PM
Organization Involved In Missing Woman Search Has Faced Criticism (http://www.wftv.com/news/6791362/detail.html)


UPDATED: 5:21 pm EST
February 6, 2006

ORLANDO, Fla. -- 9 Investigates has discovered the group that organized the February 4-5 weekend search for Jennifer Kesse has drawn critical attention from a non-profit watchdog group.

Child Watch of North America is based in Orlando. Records uncovered by Channel 9 show most of the money the group raises pays for salaries, not searches.

Child Watch of North America signed up volunteers to help search for Jennifer Kesse, and founder Don Wood was front and center at some of news conferences.

Thursday, they were even collecting checks for the Jennifer Kesse Search Fund made out to Child Watch of North America. That has since been changed.

A report uncovered by 9 Investigates may make donors to Child Watch think twice.

The Wise Giving Alliance (http://www.give.org/), part of the Better Business Bureau, found Child Watch doesn't meet nine different standards for charitable giving.

The group found there is no board of directors providing oversight, no audited financial statement to inspect and no annual report.

Don Wood said it was not a big deal.

"I don't think it was complaints. It was more suggestions on how we should set up," he said.

The most recent tax return for Child Watch of North America also raises eyebrows at the Wise Giving Alliance. It shows that for every dollar they collected in 2004, 91 cents went to salaries.

Wise Giving said a well-run charity would be about three times that.

Wood said Child Watch lost much of its funding in recent years and it severely affected their finances.

On their Web site, Child Watch lists Staples as a corporate sponsor. A spokeswoman said the relationship ended two years ago.

Wood said his group hasn't been promised money for organizing the Kesse search. He's leaving any contribution to Child Watch up to the Kesse family.

It's important to point out that the Jennifer Kesse Search Fund is being set up and it will be controlled by the family, not by Child Watch of North America.

Also, a family friend sought out the group to help in the search. Child Watch of North America did not approach the Kesses.

13th Juror

concernedperson
02-11-2006, 05:29 PM
This is something I have been worrying about. Since TexasEquuSearch has been in the news so much that smaller organization would start cropping up. Unfortunately, we know that people will use many ways to make money that are not always for the public good. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

petra
02-11-2006, 05:49 PM
thank you 13th juror--very informative about child watch.

i just hate greed in the time of need.

here is link to LKL show: transcripts


http://talkshows.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?zi=1/XJ&sdn=talkshows&zu=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2FTRANSCRIPTS%2Flkl.ht ml

Beyond Belief
02-11-2006, 08:41 PM
I am thinking that she either left something in the condo, left the car unlocked while she went back up to retrieve it, or got out to mail the phone, left the car unlocked and someone go in there. Basically this all happened within a mile of her home.

I wish there was more information available about local drop boxes. I think it would serve the investigation well to be searching in those areas.

Beyond Belief
02-12-2006, 09:02 AM
Negative. worked on shirt of second photo

I'm not really thinking anything, but this one looks like a 6 on the sleeve and a P on the front of the shirt.
Doc, if your looking at these see if you see anything there. Try using the negative.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=shirt.jpg

Lili
02-12-2006, 10:19 AM
Negative. worked on shirt of second photo

I'm not really thinking anything, but this one looks like a 6 on the sleeve and a P on the front of the shirt.
Doc, if your looking at these see if you see anything there. Try using the negative.

http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=shirt.jpg
I think what you are seeing as a "6" is a mechinism on the gate. If you click to picture 7, you can see it, and to me it looks like it is part of the gate.

Beyond Belief
02-12-2006, 10:33 AM
Ok.

Does the second camera use the same monitor as the first camera, where you would be seeing close ups intermingled with the distance camera? Lots of unidentified images on this film.

The reflection in the car window looks like the top of a six. That would give a direction of how the reflections are directed. I read this was 1 oclock not 12.

I hope the films reveal his identity soon. I have faith they will.
Going to work.:mad:

13th Juror
02-12-2006, 11:56 AM
As per the local news channels here - the search this weekend took on a different direction.

Volunteer searchers are not scouring the wooded areas, canals, lakes & such. Instead they have been directed to search the roadways and buffer zones along the roads. It's reported that they are looking for anything that may have been thrown out of the car. Discarded items like a purse, wallet, credit cards, cell phone, clothing, whatever ...

Many other volunteers are going house-to-house passing out more flyers.

Police & the Kesse parents said "they were very close to finding her" - whatever that means. They were emphasizing to the perpetrator(s) to release Jennifer now or make contact with them. Sounded very positive that Jen was alive & being held.

News reports said that less than half of the 1100 volunteers returned to the search yesterday. They were hoping for a better turnout today as the weather is cool but really sunny & gorgeous. Temps dropping down to "freezing & below" over most of Florida tonight.

That's all I can specifically remember from last night's TV newscasts.

13th Juror - still praying for Jen & her family

LaMer
02-12-2006, 03:23 PM
http://www.wesh.com/news/6953952/detail.html

Police Send Message To Public In Kesse Case

Kesse Has Been Missing For 18 Days

POSTED: 10:35 pm EST February 11, 2006
UPDATED: 10:52 pm EST February 11, 2006


ORLANDO -- In the continuing search to find Jennifer Kesse, Orlando police delivered a message to the public on Saturday.

"Now is the time to distance yourself from the person that is responsible," said a police spokesperson.

Orlando police hope this cryptic message will motivate the person who knows what happened to Jennifer Kesse.

"If there are people out there that participated in this, you need to come forward or the deals are going to run out as time goes on," said the spokesperson. estigators hope the ultimatum will persuade anyone with information on the 24-year-old's disappearance to speak up.

-continues

CrimeHater
02-12-2006, 06:04 PM
Any ideas on who they questioned, or who they think may be responsible? I'm anxious to find out.

13th Juror
02-12-2006, 07:21 PM
No, CrimeHater - no names of those people questioned or polygraphed have been released to the public.

Police will not say if they are looking for more than one suspect - however, their comments appear to be directed at "someone" who may have been there when Jennifer was abducted and encouraging that person "to do the right thing." Sounds like the LE folks "know something" the rest of us are not privvy to. I sure hope so!

It was reported that LE feels there is a "Volusia County" connection. "An unnamed someone" was just questioned in Volusia Co. yesterday - that took place prior to LE saying at a WESH news conference that "they are very close to finding Jennifer" and (paraphrasing here) that someone's chances would run out if they did not come forward. Sounded ominous and directed to a known person.


Dominos Pizza franchises in this area are now including a "Jennifer Kesse missing flyer" with every pizza delivered or picked up.

An interesting tidbit on this evening's 5:30 WESH newscast ...

Beth Holloway Twitty called Joyce Kesse last night to offer her support. Joyce said that Beth's message was "Never give up hope" and that their new jobs in life were now to find their daughters.


13th Juror

Beyond Belief
02-12-2006, 09:44 PM
Well, I finally see something, that I know I can't read, but better equipment will be able too. That package/letter has an address on it. I can read the word FROM. and the word TO
I printed it out. Looked like capital ? small letters t or ll Last J or Y or G cursive,a e, i, o, or u, then y or g. Just example. "Russell Gray or Jay" "Worrell Jay" , You probably won't be able to see this, put the general place to look.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=address.jpg

I think its going to Tipton or something that Tipt... Maybe Georgia.

13th Juror
02-13-2006, 12:24 AM
11 PM EST - WFTV Newscast - Update

A phone call & a potential new lead in the search for Jennifer led police & swat team members to an Orange County home. But - the would-be rescue turned into a big letdown.

WFTV (Channel 9) cameras were there as swat team members raided the 2 houses on 40th street near Rio Grande Ave. (BAD AREA!)

A tip came in to the police communications unit this afternoon saying that Jennifer Kesse was alive and being held captive in a room in a boarding house. The detectives said the call was credible and had specific information but this turned out not to be true.

The Orange Co. Swat Team raided room after room at the boarding house looking for Jen or any sign she had been there.

An old man was interviewed - he said he hadn't seen her. The LE also checked an abandoned house right next door.

Detective, when interviewed, said there was nothing to indicate that she was there. They are still checking things out & following up.

The detective (Richard Ring?) took the call from the tipster at home this afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller and the group decided the information was good. The raid was organized in just 4 hours.

The detective said they were hoping for a "Cinderella ending" but it didn't happen. He said patrol officers have heard rumors on the street that Jennifer is still alive which does give him hope. Said "leads" are still coming in & that they were going to work this case to it's conclusion. Said they were hoping to find Jen alive but that they are prepared for whatever they run in to.

The detective also stressed that there may be people involved in this that simply ended up in it without being "the main person" responsible. Detectives are urging those people to come forward now before it is too late.

The Kesses asked the public to keep calling tips in even though many of them may turn out to be wrong. They stressed that they were not going away. Not going to stop looking for Jen.

Drew said: New strategy starting today. Instead of relying on volunteers - the Kesse family wants businesses & groups to hand out flyers with pictures of Jennifer to clients & members. They are asking any company, group, church, etc to help distribute the information. Said they would deliver the flyers to those who called & offered help.

The Kesses also spoke of the phone call from Beth Twitty and the comfort she gave them.

Don't know if this story is on their website yet. I was typing as fast as I could while the segment was on so please excuse errors.

Freezing temps here tonight - going to cover tender plants and gp back to the Olympics.

13th Juror

lostfaith
02-13-2006, 02:02 AM
11 PM EST - WFTV Newscast - Update

A phone call & a potential new lead in the search for Jennifer led police & swat team members to an Orange County home. But - the would-be rescue turned into a big letdown.

WFTV (Channel 9) cameras were there as swat team members raided the 2 houses on 40th street near Rio Grande Ave. (BAD AREA!)

A tip came in to the police communications unit this afternoon saying that Jennifer Kesse was alive and being held captive in a room in a boarding house. The detectives said the call was credible and had specific information but this turned out not to be true.

The Orange Co. Swat Team raided room after room at the boarding house looking for Jen or any sign she had been there.

An old man was interviewed - he said he hadn't seen her. The LE also checked an abandoned house right next door.

Detective, when interviewed, said there was nothing to indicate that she was there. They are still checking things out & following up.

The detective (Richard Ring?) took the call from the tipster at home this afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller and the group decided the information was good. The raid was organized in just 4 hours.

The detective said they were hoping for a "Cinderella ending" but it didn't happen. He said patrol officers have heard rumors on the street that Jennifer is still alive which does give him hope. Said "leads" are still coming in & that they were going to work this case to it's conclusion. Said they were hoping to find Jen alive but that they are prepared for whatever they run in to.

The detective also stressed that there may be people involved in this that simply ended up in it without being "the main person" responsible. Detectives are urging those people to come forward now before it is too late.

The Kesses asked the public to keep calling tips in even though many of them may turn out to be wrong. They stressed that they were not going away. Not going to stop looking for Jen.

Drew said: New strategy starting today. Instead of relying on volunteers - the Kesse family wants businesses & groups to hand out flyers with pictures of Jennifer to clients & members. They are asking any company, group, church, etc to help distribute the information. Said they would deliver the flyers to those who called & offered help.

The Kesses also spoke of the phone call from Beth Twitty and the comfort she gave them.

Don't know if this story is on their website yet. I was typing as fast as I could while the segment was on so please excuse errors.

Freezing temps here tonight - going to cover tender plants and gp back to the Olympics.

13th Juror



Wow! I wonder if her parents were aware this was all going down? How stressful for them, and then to not find her. The police actually met with the tipster, so they know who he is. I am sure they will question him again. Could it be that whoever had her was tipped off and they moved her? Sounds like they are getting info. that she is alive, I hope so! Maybe if they go over that building with a fine tooth comb, they might find some evidence that she was there.

13th Juror
02-13-2006, 12:37 PM
Wow! I wonder if her parents were aware this was all going down? How stressful for them, and then to not find her.

The police actually met with the tipster, so they know who he is. I am sure they will question him again.

Could it be that whoever had her was tipped off and they moved her?

Sounds like they are getting info. that she is alive, I hope so! Maybe if they go over that building with a fine tooth comb, they might find some evidence that she was there.




Good afternoon, LostFaith & all :)

Yes, the Kesse parents were aware of the tip 'in advance' and were waiting "very hopefully" at Jennifer's condo as the raid went down.

And yes, I agree - that must have been extremely stressful for the Kesse family. My heart truly goes out to them! They are real troopers and seem to be staying strong & focused on the goal instead of falling apart. Exactly what Jennifer & the investigation needs right now - so, huge kudos to them!! :)

One of the WFTV field reporters interviewed them after the tip turned up 'empty'. That's when they said they were still hopeful - they were NOT going away and asked the public to please continue to call in tips. Also gave the newest strategy info about businesses, corporations, churches & groups distributing their 'missing flyers'.

I don't have answers to any other questions but I do agree with you that LE will certainly be following up closely with the tipster they met with on Sunday.

13th Juror

lostfaith
02-13-2006, 04:41 PM
News story about the raid.

http://www.wftv.com/news/7000940/detail.html


Sgt. Ring spoke to the tipster himself Sunday afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller in person. Four hours later, they raided the building. The tipster was so credible, they believed it was the information they'd been waiting for.

Police said Kesse may still be alive. Detectives said patrol officers who work the street have heard talk that Kesse is still alive, which was why Sunday night's tip was treated with such urgency.

lostfaith
02-13-2006, 04:43 PM
ORLANDO, Fla. -- Jennifer Kesse's family isn't giving up hope, but there will no longer be large volunteer searches. The Kesse family will instead rely more on businesses and groups to get the word out about Jennifer.



http://www.wftv.com/news/7001133/detail.html

Alice253
02-13-2006, 06:29 PM
I hope and pray that Jennifer is still alive. If she is, I can't help but wonder how much longer she will remain that way if the perps are starting to feel the heat.

strach304
02-13-2006, 09:41 PM
If she was abducted and being held somewhere what is the motive? Ransom, sex slave to some pervert? What I found odd in a recent report was LE claims word on the street is that she is alive. What does that mean? I'm well aware there are informants and what not but it goes right back to motive for me. Why would street people know anything about an abduction of someone like Jennifer? Surely they could know about the abductor but if they know the who have they told police and this is what the raid was about? I think so because of LE making a plea for anyone with knowledge but not involved in the crime to come forward. They seem like cryptic messages to me, they know the who and why but not where?

13th Juror
02-14-2006, 10:21 AM
Good morning sleuthers :)

As everyone knows, that has been following the case of Jennifer's disappearance - she & her boyfriend had just returned from a caribbean vacation in St. Croix, V.I.. That was on a Monday morning (3 weeks ago) before being reported "missing" on the following Tuesday morning.

WKMG - local6.com (http://www.local6.com/) - ran a film piece on the early evening news last night. It was an interview with 'Jen's Ft. Lauderdale boyfriend'. He has a name. "Rob Allen". (looks tall - 6 ft (?) and has a very short haircut, like a crewcut - blondish, I'd say.)

Rob said he met Jen about a year ago in downtown Orlando and corresponded with her for awhile as the relationship grew. He said his interest started with her physical looks but that Jen was also very smart, very caring & compassionate. Rob said that Jen was his 'best friend' as well as his girlfriend.

He said that they had a great vacation together and that Jen met a couple of his good friends. Said it's a totally relaxing time anytime he's in the islands. (I noticed that he's well-spoken & has a bit of a british (?) accent - not real prominent, but it's definitely there.)

Rob said he was apparently the last known person to have talked with Jen. He called her Monday evening (10 pm) and that Jen was exhausted from the long day. They said they missed each other n' wished they were still in St. Croix spending time together. He said it was very frustrating that he can't call her - can't talk to her as well as can't hold her, kiss her.

Rob still sends text messages every day to Jennifer's phone. Said maybe "force of nature" - it's therapeutic for him. Said - "I'm not stupid either - I know that there could be a negative outcome."

Rob said he's not focusing on the 'unknown' and trying to stay positive. Said - every night when he goes to sleep, he thinks of Jen - "I think of times we've spent together and times we're going to spend together."

Since Jen's disappearance, Rob has spent every weekend up here in Orlando with her family helping with the search. He said he will continue to do so until Jen is found or a conclusion is reached. Said - with Jen's disappearance - his nightmare is just beginning.

Vanessa Medina conducted the interview that was clearly heavily edited. Many sound-bites taken from the whole.

Also - news reported that many more 'tips' are coming in since the "raid" and police are busy following up on everything.

13th Juror

lostfaith
02-14-2006, 10:41 AM
13th Juror...Thanks for taking the time to write about the interview!

fran
02-14-2006, 11:39 AM
This case is very puzzeling. Obviously those close to the case know something very specific. Old boyfriend perhaps? Or maybe someone from the neighborhood had seen her around, has a crush on her and told others, and LE is linking her disappearance to that?

Her parents sounded almost positive she was ok and whoever just needs to release her.

I hope she'll be alright.

Thanks to all who've been keeping us updated.

JMHO
fran

13th Juror
02-14-2006, 12:09 PM
13th Juror...Thanks for taking the time to write about the interview!



You're most welcome, LostFaith. It's my pleasure. :)

Actually, since I'm here in the local news area - I thought perhaps I could contribute whatever I viewed of the interviews & snippets that appear on TV on a daily basis. A news channel is always on somewhere in the house. <lol>

Thank you for your thoughtful acknowledgement. :D

13th Juror :)

christine2448
02-14-2006, 12:36 PM
News story about the raid.

http://www.wftv.com/news/7000940/detail.html


Sgt. Ring spoke to the tipster himself Sunday afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller in person. Four hours later, they raided the building. The tipster was so credible, they believed it was the information they'd been waiting for.

Police said Kesse may still be alive. Detectives said patrol officers who work the street have heard talk that Kesse is still alive, which was why Sunday night's tip was treated with such urgency.
Good article, thanks lostfaith...

SNIP
Sgt. Ring spoke to the tipster himself Sunday afternoon. Two other detectives met with the caller in person. Four hours later, they raided the building. The tipster was so credible, they believed it was the information they'd been waiting for.

THIS TIPSTER KNOWS SOMETHING....maybe?

christine2448
02-14-2006, 12:39 PM
I haven't had time to read up, have you all discussed this fact lately, what do ya think?:

Police are confirming that Jennifer may have left her home at Mosaic at Millenia on Monday night or Tuesday morning looking for a roadside mailbox to mail a package. They will not say where or whether she made it there, but the package is also missing.

http://www.wftv.com/news/6912982/detail.html

Hope I'm not repeating, just smack me :slap: if I am!

LaMer
02-14-2006, 02:11 PM
Another 'thank you' for your report. :)

I pray all of our prayers bring Jennifer home soon.

PrayersForMaura
02-14-2006, 06:11 PM
Psychics Used In Search For Missing Orlando Woman (http://rds.yahoo.com/S=53720272/K=missing/v=2/SID=e/l=NSR/R=2/SIG=129dnsgt6/EXP=1140044959/*-http%3A//news.yahoo.com/s/wkmg/20060214/lo_wkmg/3268083)

Orlando police have enlisted the help of psychics in the search for a missing 24-year-old woman who mysteriously vanished three weeks ago, according to Local 6 News.
Since Jennifer Kesse disappeared, investigative leads have offered few clues to her whereabouts, Local 6 News reported.

But Orlando police confirmed Tuesday that they have interviewed a number of psychics in connection with the case.

"The psychic calls we have been getting about the Kesse case, we are not discounting them," Orlando police Sgt. Richard Ring said. "There is the possibility that there is valid information that we can use."

lostfaith
02-14-2006, 07:21 PM
http://www.local6.com/news/7038421/detail.html


Tuesday, the "America's Most Wanted" Web site profiled Kesse's case. The national exposure could generate even more leads in the case.

Kesse's parents said they are encouraged by the attention her case is getting in recent days, Local 6 News reported.



America's most wanted article.

http://www.amw.com/missing_persons/case.cfm?id=37544

Beyond Belief
02-14-2006, 08:40 PM
Yesterday I read about an attempted carjacking, that made me think on those lines for Jennifer. Bystanders actually helped the cars driver to subdue and capture the would be theif.
I hope they look at him closely to see if he could have possible been involved in her disappearance.

Beyond Belief
02-14-2006, 11:00 PM
Does anyone have any thoughts about the way Mondays clothing was neatly placed over the chair, but the rejected outfits for Tuesday were left on an unmade bed, night wear left on the bathroom floor?
Did she always shower in the morning? You would think after a two hour drive, a fulls day work, she would jump inthe shower before going to bed. Whoa, its at least a 3 1/2 hour drive from Ft Lauderdale. Correct me please I am assuming they left on a cruise from Ft Lauderdale.
Why would she wait until Monday morning to go home? Where did she sleep Sunday night?
Where are her friends? She only talks to family and her boyfriend after a vacation? Somethings missing here.
Just what did she eat for dinner when she got home? There probably wasn't even milk in the condo. Did she call for something to be delivered?
Did she fill her gas tank before she left for the vacation? Did she fill it after she returned home? How much gas was left in the tank?
What kind of jewelry is missing? Her favorite necklace, her watch, her rings?
Did she stop at a bank to get some cash? How much cash did she have when she got back from the cruise?
What was missing from the condo that she would have to go get? Food, drinks, toilet paper.
Have any of her creditors received a payment she might have mailed? Phone, utility, cable, mortgage, car insurance, car payment, etc.
Was the trash emptied?
Were there coffee cups, breakfast dishes or any evidence she ate breakfast on Tues? Was her toothbrush put back where it belongs?
I see no reason whatsoever for her to go out on Monday night or early Tuesday to mail anything. Her office probably has mail pickup and the drop boxes get picked up at 5 oclock, not 8 in the morning.
Did she have laundry detergent to wash the vacation clothing? Where was the wet towel she used for her morning shower?
Did she have the ipod on vacation with her? Did she usually take it to work? Is the purse she took on vacation the one missing?
Who knew when she was returning from her vacation?
Are any condos in her building owned by companies who allow the business people to use it while their in town? Did one of the condo owners rent their place out? Sometimes its against the rules so it won't be reported to the management.
Were there any strange messages on her home phone?
The pool sign says big as life, "cameras".
On what day does the lawn service people arrive? Do they have the account for both condos?
What vendors do the condos have in common?

LaMer
02-14-2006, 11:02 PM
FBI helping LE with the surveillance tape to clarify poi:


http://www.wftv.com/news/7052207/detail.html

FBI Helps With Missing Orlando Woman Investigation

POSTED: 4:04 pm EST February 14, 2006
UPDATED: 6:31 pm EST February 14, 2006

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Channel 9 has learned the FBI is now helping in the investigation of Jennifer Kesse. Agents were on hand Tuesday at the condo complex where the missing 24-year-old's car was found.

It was three weeks ago that Jennifer never showed up to work.

Experts from the FBI were at Huntington on the Green all afternoon testing the surveillance camera up on the roof of the clubhouse. They were trying to find out everything they could about the person of interest caught on tape walking by.

"They're gonna do some proportion work and try to give us a sensible range of the person's height," said Sgt. Rich Ring, Orlando Police Department.

Orlando police detectives said that could help the public identify the person of interest, who has yet to come forward. FBI technicians used the angle of the camera and the height in the pictures to calculate details, like how tall the person is and maybe even the length of the shoes.

"The source that we used for the enhancement is renowned and they've given us what they can give us as far as the clarity on that particular video," Sgt. Ring said.

That means questions about the person's age and race and whether it's a man or a woman will probably go unanswered.

Police still have someone working full time watching other surveillance tapes looking for a clearer image of the person of interest.
more at link-

Bobbisangel
02-14-2006, 11:37 PM
Why do LE believe that the person in the video is a person of interest? Couldn't it be just about anyone walking by at that particular time of day? If it is a regular person just walking by he could have seen the video on TV and not even recognized himself because the picture is so blurred. He might not even put two and two together if he walks by there daily...maybe something to do with a job or lives there.

Why is LE focussed on this person and not someone else on the video?

LaMer
02-15-2006, 12:05 AM
Beyond Belief, you have lots of good questions they give many things to ponder about. Jen's mom said, the clothes and nightwear laying about were normal for Jennifer.

One thing that bothers me, is Jennifer not calling her boyfiend that AM. Did she usually do this from home or her car on the way to work? If she would usually call him from her condo, I was thinking, possibly she had been coersed from her condo, but then again, on remembering that the cellphone she was to have mailed that morning wasn't there, she more than likely had left for work and taken it with her. So she was more than likely was OK until she had left her condo. And calling from her car in the morning on her way might have been her norm, as my daughters usually always call me when they are driving. Have car and cellphone will travel!

I found out something today, I didn't know. LE had obtained videos from survaillance cameras other than the one where her car had been found. They possibly have a timeline when either Jennifer or someone else was driving her car. I am supposing, using this timeline is what possibly might make the person, who is the poi, important as seen on the surveillance camera where Jen's car had been found near the time when her car possibly was the one mentioned by the article.-make sense?- I had missed reading this article until today. It explains what I am trying to explain.


http://www.wftv.com/news/6630167/detail.html
Police Using Surveillance Video In Search For Woman

POSTED: 3:32 pm EST January 31, 2006
UPDATED: 5:40 pm EST January 31, 2006

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Police are using surveillance video from stores to try to find missing 24-year-old Jennifer Kesse. Officers have already taken the tapes from several businesses located near Jennifer's condo, which is near the Mall of Millenia.

Police are now releasing a timeline as to when they think Jennifer's car came through the South John Young Parkway corridor and detectives are scouring the store surveillance tapes hoping one of the cameras captured something to narrow the timeline.

Jennifer's car is still the best clue police have. A woman, who didn't want to be identified, but lives in the Huntington on the Green apartments where Jennifer's car was found last Thursday morning, remembers seeing the car a whole day earlier, Wednesday morning. She nearly hit it, in the lot.

"My kids were making noise in the car and I almost backed into it," she said. "I didn't notice that car before and, when I noticed it, I knew it wasn't somebody staying around here."

Police want to hear from anyone who may have seen the Chevy Malibu anytime after 10pm Monday night, when Jennifer last spoke to her boyfriend, and Thursday morning at 8am, when the car was found.

Detectives think Jennifer herself, or someone else, was traveling on South John Young Parkway, between Texas and Americana and Conroy Road by the Mall of Millenia, during that time frame.

A manager at the 7-Eleven along John Young and Americana confirmed that police collected their outdoor surveillance tapes looking for clues.

-more at link-

I know this is an old article, new to me tho, and it helped clear up some questions I had.

LaMer
02-15-2006, 12:13 AM
Why do LE believe that the person in the video is a person of interest? Couldn't it be just about anyone walking by at that particular time of day? If it is a regular person just walking by he could have seen the video on TV and not even recognized himself because the picture is so blurred. He might not even put two and two together if he walks by there daily...maybe something to do with a job or lives there.

Why is LE focussed on this person and not someone else on the video?

Bobbi, I have been wondering the same thing. I think my last post might help explain it to you, I believe it possibly explains it. The timing of seeing Jen's car in the area and the timing of the poi on the tape make the person the poi.

What do you think about that?

Beyond Belief
02-15-2006, 07:51 AM
Greta's photo tour shows where the car had been found. At the time Greta's crew took the photo's there is a mail truck parked next to where Jenn's car was found. I am wondering if that mail truck is stopped there everyday.

Lili
02-15-2006, 03:53 PM
I just had an interesting, thought provoking email from an aunt in Orlando. This is "beauty shop talk" but like I said, thought provoking...Did Jennifer work at a travel agency? She also said there is to be something on the 5 pm news tonight about a new connection they have made. She will email me about it.

She said "this girl looks like the one in aruba~~&~~~aruba girl booked trip with travel agency~~fla gal worked at a travel agency~~_____ thinks they were kidnapped by a sex slavery gang."

Mellen
02-15-2006, 04:09 PM
I just had an interesting, thought provoking email from an aunt in Orlando. This is "beauty shop talk" but like I said, thought provoking...Did Jennifer work at a travel agency? She also said there is to be something on the 5 pm news tonight about a new connection they have made. She will email me about it.

She said "this girl looks like the one in aruba~~&~~~aruba girl booked trip with travel agency~~fla gal worked at a travel agency~~_____ thinks they were kidnapped by a sex slavery gang."She doesn't work at a travel agency (her company is called Central Florida Investments, so sounds like she's a financial analyst or broker of some kind), but she did just get back from a cruise so that would most likely have been booked through a travel agency ...

LaMer
02-15-2006, 05:19 PM
Crime Library

http://www.crimelibrary.com/news/original/0206/1501_kesse_missing.html

Jennifer Kesses Family looking for "One Tip

By Chuck Hustmyre

ORLANDO, Fla. (Crime Library) — Family and friends of an Orlando woman, Jennifer Kesse, who has been missing for more than three weeks say they are confident she is still alive and that all investigators need is a break in the case.

Information from the searches and from a special tip line (1-800-423-8477) has generated hundreds of leads, according to investigators.

"The police are very hot on something," Jennifer's father, Drew Kesse, told Crime Library. "We truly feel she's right here somewhere and she's with us. It's just that we need that one tip."

~another snippet

Investigators do not appear to consider Kesse's boyfriend, who lives about three hours away in Ft. Lauderdale, to be a serious suspect. Two days before she disappeared, Kesse and her boyfriend returned from a vacation on the island of St. Croix.

A family friend, who knows both Jennifer Kesse and her boyfriend, told Crime Library: "I know they're not focusing on him. He was in Ft. Lauderdale at the time and they've accounted for his whereabouts."

~this is an interesting article, a 2 pages

13th Juror
02-15-2006, 06:46 PM
5 pm News - WKMG Local 6 News - Wed

Jen's car is said to be "central" to the police investigation.

Keeping 'Jennifer's Disappearance Story' front & center - there was a film piece aired on the early evening news.

Drew & Logan Kesse were examining Jen's abandoned car for the first time since LE finished with processing it. It is being stored somewhere. Drew commented that 'items were missing' from the car but Drew also said he didn't know if LE had them or if the items were removed by the alleged perpetrator(s). Both father & son said it was difficult seeing & going through Jen's car.

Joyce Kesse was not present with her husband - but, she was quoted as stating that she had no desire to ever see that car again. The Kesses said they plan to sell that car very soon - that when Jennifer is found, they will buy her a new car. (IMO - that must mean one of the parent's names must be on the title or they would not have the authority to sell Jen's car while she is still listed as "missing".)


In the past 2-3 days - there have been several more blips by LE encouraging people with possible tips to please call. One officer alluded to "the psychics" calling in saying LE would speak to anyone and hoped that "the someone" with alleged psychic powers would call in with the tip they've been seeking - said that person who "knows" is still out there.


Not much more news about the FBI joining the investigation. Just that they are working on the "poi" in the still pics at the gate - and info already posted in above articles.

There may be more in the late news .. I'll keep watching.

Some local TV stations to keep an eye on ...


WESH TV - Channel 2 (http://www.wesh.com)

WKMG - Local 6 (http://www.local6.com)

WFTV - Channel 9 (http://www.wftv.com)


13th Juror

Bobbisangel
02-16-2006, 06:10 AM
Bobbi, I have been wondering the same thing. I think my last post might help explain it to you, I believe it possibly explains it. The timing of seeing Jen's car in the area and the timing of the poi on the tape make the person the poi.

What do you think about that?



That makes sense to me. Thanks for posting the info. Do LE think the person might have just dropped her car off and was walking away? I still don't see how anyone will be able to identify the poi because of the condition of the photo. Maybe another video somewhere will have a better picture of him.

I worry about Jennifer's parents and what it will do to them if she is not found alive. They seem to have convinced themselves that she is still alive.
I know that they have to have hope because that is what will keep them going but she has been gone awhile now and the chances of someone taking her just to hide her somewhere is pretty low. No one has asked for money or anything. I hope that she is found alive. I think it will be like a double blow to this loving family if she isn't. Sad situation darn it.

LaMer
02-16-2006, 01:23 PM
That makes sense to me. Thanks for posting the info. Do LE think the person might have just dropped her car off and was walking away? I still don't see how anyone will be able to identify the poi because of the condition of the photo. Maybe another video somewhere will have a better picture of him.

I worry about Jennifer's parents and what it will do to them if she is not found alive. They seem to have convinced themselves that she is still alive.
I know that they have to have hope because that is what will keep them going but she has been gone awhile now and the chances of someone taking her just to hide her somewhere is pretty low. No one has asked for money or anything. I hope that she is found alive. I think it will be like a double blow to this loving family if she isn't. Sad situation darn it.

Bobbi, about Jennifer's car, when our youngest bought her first car, we also had our name on the title/loan, I think it was because of financing, as she had to start somewhere with establishing a line of credit, not sure she would have qualified all be herself.

About the person who is the poi, didn't Beyond Belief see some letters on possibly what was a package? I'd have to read back to be sure, but if so, one would think the FBI would have some great equipment, which might help.

I just can't even imagine what her family is going through. Devastation for sure, but just imagine what depths that must be. Our hearts are breaking for them, just imagine, their hearts are being torn out!

LaMer
02-16-2006, 01:27 PM
I'll keep watching.

Some local TV stations to keep an eye on ...


WESH TV - Channel 2 (http://www.wesh.com)

WKMG - Local 6 (http://www.local6.com)

WFTV - Channel 9 (http://www.wftv.com)


13th Juror


Thank you 13th Juror, for your reporting!

LaMer
02-16-2006, 01:37 PM
Well, I finally see something, that I know I can't read, but better equipment will be able too. That package/letter has an address on it. I can read the word FROM. and the word TO
I printed it out. Looked like capital ? small letters t or ll Last J or Y or G cursive,a e, i, o, or u, then y or g. Just example. "Russell Gray or Jay" "Worrell Jay" , You probably won't be able to see this, put the general place to look.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=address.jpg

I think its going to Tipton or something that Tipt... Maybe Georgia.

This is BB's post I was referring to. So possibly the FBI with better equipment will be able to decipher something, as BB stated above.

I have to say here tho, when I am visiting our condo, we also have a wall with fencing above it, and I see lots of people walking by, but I don't think I could ever describe them if I had to.

Beyond Belief
02-16-2006, 02:35 PM
When messing around with those photos, you can see images all over the place, but I am truly thinking that tapes that have been used mulitible time have old film images showing through.

Beyond Belief
02-16-2006, 03:01 PM
Armchair sleuths abuzz with Kesse tips


Concerned citizens, raised on real and fictional crime shows, are turning into armchair sleuths, offering police a parade of suspects and theories in the baffling disappearance of Jennifer Kesse.

They send messages to a Web forum, swapping opinions on whether grainy images of a "person of interest" show a woman or a man, whether the person has on a hat or just an odd hairdo. Some post satellite images of the condominium complex where Orlando police found Kesse's abandoned car and suggest places for searchers to check.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-kessequestions106feb16,0,4353315.story?coll=orl-home-headlines

christine2448
02-16-2006, 03:08 PM
Armchair sleuths abuzz with Kesse tips


Concerned citizens, raised on real and fictional crime shows, are turning into armchair sleuths, offering police a parade of suspects and theories in the baffling disappearance of Jennifer Kesse.

They send messages to a Web forum, swapping opinions on whether grainy images of a "person of interest" show a woman or a man, whether the person has on a hat or just an odd hairdo. Some post satellite images of the condominium complex where Orlando police found Kesse's abandoned car and suggest places for searchers to check.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-kessequestions106feb16,0,4353315.story?coll=orl-home-headlines
Great article

docwho3
02-16-2006, 03:22 PM
Armchair sleuths abuzz with Kesse tips. . .It was an interesting article. Thanks for posting it.

One thing I noticed that was left out of the article is that on forums we are usually tossing around ideas for others to mull over and give a response to help weed out the bad thoughts and theories so that we don't send in bad ideas or tips.

I, for one, would have to be pretty sure I had something of value to offer before I would tip it to L.E. on a case like this one, exactly because of the very high number of tips they must already be getting. Still, it was a good article on the whole and I thank you for posting it.

13th Juror
02-16-2006, 05:04 PM
Nothing really new regarding the investigation has been on the tube today.

Some of the same film footage from yesterday of Drew Kesse inspecting Jen's car and saying how much he hopes that whatever the forensics people were able to lift from the car - will help in finding Jen. He said that LE has not told him what items they took for forensics to inspect. Drew commented that Jean always had stuff like clothing, mail, magazines n' other things left in her car.


The 4 pm newscast on WKMG - Local6 ran an interview with Travis Bourguignon (Hope I spelled that name correctly as I just got a few seconds glance at it!).

He was the family friend staying in Jen's condo with her brother, Logan, while Jen was on vacation with her boyfriend, Rob Allen.

Travis was the one who left his cell phone behind. He said he spoke to Jen on the phone on Monday evening. She told him he had missed several calls on his cell.

As we all now know - Jen said that she would "overnight" the phone back to him. Travis commented that Jen said he'd have it in a day or 2. He never received it. The cell phone co. is checking his cell phone call records.

If I told someone I would "overnight" an item to them that I knew they needed & were anxious to receive - I would go find an outlet asap - even if it meant doing it that same night when I was dead tired from a long day. But, hey - that's just me.

The police - as reported on this newscast - seem to think that may have been what happened as well -- that Jen went out on Monday night to locate a place where she could "overnight" Travis's phone.


There may be more on this case later this evening.

Hey - Big breaking news on the Van der Sloots (all 3 of them) being served with a civil suit in N.Y. by Dave & Beth through their atty (John Q.) over Natalee Holloway. Joran was served on the plane just after it landed in N.Y. Big surprise, Joran! Check this thread. (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36414)


Greta will have the complete story tonight - FOX - "On the Record". Such big news, I imagine everyone else will too. <lol>

13th Juror

13th Juror
02-16-2006, 05:16 PM
Thank you 13th Juror, for your reporting!



Always my pleasure, LaMer :)

I'm also very appreciative of all the articles and input everyone is posting and sharing with all of us. We do have a terrific group here at Websleuths! The very BEST! :D

:blowkiss: to LaMer ...

13th Juror :)

strach304
02-16-2006, 05:20 PM
I'm with you Doc, I follow a lot of these cases and post here but would never call in a hunch or tip based on theory simply because I trust LE to know their job and they do but often times the public under estimates them. I think in cases where the reward is higher more people are prone to call in what they think may be good info in hope of getting a reward.

Then you have pranks and the possibility of the perp calling and giving misleading info too. All in all this article sounds very negative to me because valuable resources are being wasted. I did find the statement about people calling in as psychics very interesting and think that the perp might do this too.

13th Juror
02-16-2006, 06:33 PM
Thanks BeyondBelief for posting the Orlando Sentinel article. (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-kessequestions106feb16,0,7404884,print.story?coll= orl-home-headlines) Most interesting! (I've been so busy today that my newspaper is still in the driveway! <groan>)


I have to agree with Doc & Strach on the calls coming in. Drew Kesse keeps emphasizing for anyone to call in a tip even if they think it's not important. I know how desperate he feels and his heart is in the right place. However, with a $115,000. reward constantly mentioned - every Tom, Dick, Harry and psychic is calling in their "suggestions" for locating Jen.

It's overloading the capabilities of Crimeline & the respective LE depts. They DO want "tips" - real tips - but, not a plethora of suggestions on how to do their job.

There is information that LE has that is not being released to the public & the media. Most of what is released are fairly insignificant 'daily human interest tidbits' to keep the story alive & in the public eye. If LE released all they know - it would be detrimental and counter-productive to finding Jennifer.

Personally, as much as I hate to say it - I do not believe Jen will be found alive. I completely understand her parents need to believe otherwise. I'm sure I would too if I were in their place. People - as in friends, neighbors, volunteer searchers, off-duty LE personnel & firefighters, church groups, etc are far more likely to stay engaged in the search and handing out flyers if the concept is that "Jennifer is alive".

As a side note - it was reported this evening that the tipster, who thought Jen was being held in that boarding house last weekend when the police conducted the raid, mistook Jen for a local prostitute that looks like her.

Also - in an additional film clip played a few minutes ago ... Travis Bourguignon, who is here helping with the search, said that he felt Jen's disappearance was partly his fault for leaving behind his cell phone and asking her to overnight it. He must feel absolutely horrible. :(

13th Juror

LaMer
02-16-2006, 07:11 PM
I've missed quite a bit here today.

Thanks for the article, and the update from the local news too. :) You Guys and Gals are great!

But, I hated reading where Jennifer was going to over-night the package. Her missing makes some sense tho as compared to being out during the day and disappearing. Cause I kept thinking, why wouldn't she scream, carry on, yell, run etc and if she did, someone would've witnessed something, if on the way to work in the morning.

Oh boy, this is devastating news, if this is what she decided to do. And that poor guy.

Hmm can't believe the Joran news, thanks for the heads up there too.

LvsAMystry
02-16-2006, 11:42 PM
I actually disagree that she went out that night, or at least not that night to send out the phone. I see that she used the term "overnight," but then told Travis he'd have it in a day or two. To me that means she planned to send it out the following day for him to have in a day or two following that. I think the term "overnight" is used widely in general when someone is using express delivery, but I don't think it necessarily means she meant to do it that night overnight. I also don't really think her nightclothes would have been on the bathroom floor or her outfits laid out on the bed prior to her going out somewhere. Although I guess it's possible she could have been in her nightclothes picking out what to wear the following day and on a whim decided to redress and go send the phone. Has anyone heard whether her clothes she'd worn to work Monday had been found in the condo?

LaMer
02-17-2006, 12:28 AM
I actually disagree that she went out that night, or at least not that night to send out the phone. I see that she used the term "overnight," but then told Travis he'd have it in a day or two. To me that means she planned to send it out the following day for him to have in a day or two following that. I think the term "overnight" is used widely in general when someone is using express delivery, but I don't think it necessarily means she meant to do it that night overnight. I also don't really think her nightclothes would have been on the bathroom floor or her outfits laid out on the bed prior to her going out somewhere. Although I guess it's possible she could have been in her nightclothes picking out what to wear the following day and on a whim decided to redress and go send the phone. Has anyone heard whether her clothes she'd worn to work Monday had been found in the condo?

I think it was on Gretta, where her bedroom was shown, and her mom stated, the clothes which were over the chair, were the clothes she had worn to work on Monday. They looked folded and draped, very neat.

You could see other clothes, outfits on her bed. It appeared to be 3 or so outfits. They were line up across the bed. I don't remember noting if the bed had been made. However, the way they covered the bed, seemed as tho they were untouched, there didn't seem to be room for an outfit to be missing.

Maybe someone else saw the picture and can give their description.

Beyond Belief
02-17-2006, 09:10 AM
Have we established what time she has to arrive at work? Its still dark in Orlando at 6:30 in the morning. If there is an a.m. pick up at a box close too her its possible she did go to a box before say 8 a.m. Are the condos where the car was located on her route to work?
Was there any evidence in the apartment that she had been packing something? The peel off back from the label, scotch tape, etc. Was the paper she jotted down the boys address on left in the apt? Did she make a habit of stopping off for coffee enroute to work? Did she need an item from a convenience store, cigaretts, tampons? Does her own condo have a mail drop off box?
School children are on every street corner at those early hours of the morning, its difficult for something to happen, out of the ordinary, without them seeing it. I think this was a carjacking/mugging. I think the abductor was on foot and lives within the 1 mile area of her condo.

13th Juror
02-17-2006, 10:52 AM
Have we established what time she has to arrive at work? Its still dark in Orlando at 6:30 in the morning.

If there is an a.m. pick up at a box close too her its possible she did go to a box before say 8 a.m. Are the condos where the car was located on her route to work?

Was there any evidence in the apartment that she had been packing something? The peel off back from the label, scotch tape, etc.

Was the paper she jotted down the boys address on left in the apt?

Did she make a habit of stopping off for coffee enroute to work?

Did she need an item from a convenience store, cigaretts, tampons?

Does her own condo have a mail drop off box?

School children are on every street corner at those early hours of the morning, its difficult for something to happen, out of the ordinary, without them seeing it.

I think this was a carjacking/mugging. I think the abductor was on foot and lives within the 1 mile area of her condo.




All excellent questions, Beyond Belief!

I'm glad we're not playing "Jeopardy" - as I'd lose hands down. <lol> I'm sorry I don't know the answers to any of them.

However - I'd be willing to bet LE has the answers to most of them. They're just keeping it 'close to the vest' and aren't releasing any more to the media than necessary.

You may be correct that the perpetrator(s) were "on foot" when Jennifer was abducted. Her car may very well have been conveniently "dumped" at the apt. complex 'a mile away' a day or so later. That particular area area of Orlando is a fairly high crime area - well known by LE for much 'drug dealing'.

Can't explain why, but right from the beginning - I felt that Jen left her condo to 'overnight' the phone and was abducted, robbed for drug money & probably sexually assaulted while carrying out that errand. If there was evidence of 'rape' in her car - LE isn't commenting. Hopefully, the forensics team has DNA.


From the local FOX 35 morning newscast ...

New search by the community for this weekend has been requested by the Kesse family. Instead of the Mall at Millenia area - the new area is around the "Florida Mall".

Details can be found by accessing a link at "FOX 35 - WOFL TV" (http://www.WOFL.com) or "the Jennifer Kesse website" (http://www.JenniferKesse.com)


13th Juror

kato
02-17-2006, 11:25 AM
If someone left their phone at my house and it was already late and dark outside It would be tough chit; they'd have to wait til the morning. I don't care what part of town I lived in. These days, at least here, no part of town is safe. I mean are ya gonna die cuz you don't have your friggin' cellie? How did we survive in the olden days? GMAB!

Beyond Belief
02-17-2006, 11:33 AM
If she had run to a convenience store to pick up something, there would be film available for that. Also if she had to stop at a bank. It can only be a mail drop or gas station.

Mellen
02-17-2006, 12:50 PM
I actually disagree that she went out that night, or at least not that night to send out the phone. I see that she used the term "overnight," but then told Travis he'd have it in a day or two. To me that means she planned to send it out the following day for him to have in a day or two following that. I think the term "overnight" is used widely in general when someone is using express delivery, but I don't think it necessarily means she meant to do it that night overnight. I also don't really think her nightclothes would have been on the bathroom floor or her outfits laid out on the bed prior to her going out somewhere. Although I guess it's possible she could have been in her nightclothes picking out what to wear the following day and on a whim decided to redress and go send the phone. Has anyone heard whether her clothes she'd worn to work Monday had been found in the condo?I agree with you. In an earlier post in this thread it says that her work clothes from Monday were draped over a chair, there were 3 outfits on the bed that she probably had thought about wearing on Tues., and her nightclothes were on the bathroom floor. Also, I believe the boyfriend said that when he talked to her at 10 pm on Mon. night, she was in bed. It really seems like she disappeared Tues. morning on her way to work. Maybe she left early to try to drop the package? (Although I really think she probably could have sent it from the office. I could do something like that really easily at my office.)

Beyond Belief
02-17-2006, 08:50 PM
My brain keeps picturing her coming home, the refrigerator empty, nothing to drink or eat. I can see her heading directly to a grocery store or a fast food place. Mailing the cell phone could be done from work with ease.
Maybe she made it to work but didn't make it from the car to the office.

I can't believe i didn't think of this sooner. She probably has an answering system for her work phone. I wonder if she checked the messages and went to meet someone early Tues. morning.

LaMer
02-17-2006, 09:42 PM
I agree with you. In an earlier post in this thread it says that her work clothes from Monday were draped over a chair, there were 3 outfits on the bed that she probably had thought about wearing on Tues., and her nightclothes were on the bathroom floor. Also, I believe the boyfriend said that when he talked to her at 10 pm on Mon. night, she was in bed. It really seems like she disappeared Tues. morning on her way to work. Maybe she left early to try to drop the package? (Although I really think she probably could have sent it from the office. I could do something like that really easily at my office.)

Mellon, I was thinking, even if Jennifer was in bed and Travis called her after she was in bed, she could've decided to go out and the nightclothes could be on the floor when she decided to get dressed to go out. Either way the nightwear could be on the floor.

I think there is a lot we don't know. Hopefully LE has a clear picture.


Beyond Belief, you mentioned the possibility of DNA in the car.

What comes to mind, Jennifer's mom saying, she never wants to see that car again. There again, there is likley info we haven't heard which her mom might be aware of. just guessing here

lostfaith
02-17-2006, 11:21 PM
The family of missing 24-year-old Jennifer Kesse has decided to get rid of her car

The car was found just a short distance from where the Orlando woman was last seen back on January 23. Police have since processed it and turned it back over to the family.





Today the family got rid of it at a dealership in Orlando.

http://cfn13.com/StoryHeadline.aspx?id=13364


Does anyone else find this just a little odd? I am not implying that her parents had ANYTHING to do with her being missing, I just cant understand the rush to get rid of the car. Unless, they know something about that car that we do not. I find it odd also that police would let them get rid of the car also. I would just think they would hold it until they know what has happened to her. What if something comes up later and they need to recheck the car? You just never know. I just think it is odd to get rid of the car so soon. It is like they are mad at the car. They (her parents) think she is alive, and I hope she is, but what if Jennifer is found and she goes "why did you get rid of my car? This is just striking me as odd for some reason.

Lili
02-17-2006, 11:37 PM
LaMer wrote: "Mellon, I was thinking, even if Jennifer was in bed and Travis called her after she was in bed, she could've decided to go out and the nightclothes could be on the floor when she decided to get dressed to go out. Either way the nightwear could be on the floor."

But there were clothes laid out on the bed. She wouldn't have laid out clothes if she got up to send the phone.

About the parents selling the car...maybe it's a "setup" to see if someone comes to buy it right away...maybe some thinking they hid something in the car and it might still be there. The article doesn't say what dealership, but someone might drive around until they found it. I would bet that whoever buys it will be watched.

My friend works for a car rental company and they find a lot of instances where renters have sliced carpet, or made hiding places in their rentals (apparently to hide drugs.)

Beyond Belief
02-18-2006, 12:12 AM
I have been looking closely at the shoe. I thought bunched up socks and rolled up pant leg.

Now I think they may be motorcycle boots. Just thinking, of course.

dark_shadows
02-18-2006, 01:40 AM
The parents have a blog on the web about Jennifer.

dark_shadows
02-18-2006, 01:44 AM
The family of missing 24-year-old Jennifer Kesse has decided to get rid of her car

The car was found just a short distance from where the Orlando woman was last seen back on January 23. Police have since processed it and turned it back over to the family.





Today the family got rid of it at a dealership in Orlando.

http://cfn13.com/StoryHeadline.aspx?id=13364


Does anyone else find this just a little odd? I am not implying that her parents had ANYTHING to do with her being missing, I just cant understand the rush to get rid of the car. Unless, they know something about that car that we do not. I find it odd also that police would let them get rid of the car also. I would just think they would hold it until they know what has happened to her. What if something comes up later and they need to recheck the car? You just never know. I just think it is odd to get rid of the car so soon. It is like they are mad at the car. They (her parents) think she is alive, and I hope she is, but what if Jennifer is found and she goes "why did you get rid of my car? This is just striking me as odd for some reason.
The whole thing is odd.What would Jennifer think if she saw her car go by with someone driving it????

lostfaith
02-18-2006, 03:36 AM
A good article about the car. Her parents obviously think something happened to her in the car. So, I guess I see why they have bad feelings about the car. I just think it is too soon to get rid of it, and you never know if LE might need it again.

http://www.wftv.com/news/7162648/detail.html

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Channel 9 has learned some of the clues investigators might have uncovered from Jennifer Kesse's car. The 24-year-old disappeared almost a month ago.

"Something happened there and that's my daughter, a living being, and she was taken from that car," Jennifer's father, Drew Kesse, said.

He said, even with the splashes of processing fluid used to check for evidence, his daughter Jennifer's car is cleaner than she ever kept it. Detectives likely have most of the items of clutter that used to be there, hoping for clues.

"I'm sure they took everything they possibly could out of it and I hope they pulled something off of something in that car to give them a direction," Drew Kesse said.

Fingerprint dust lines the steering wheel, gear shift, door handles and anything else a suspect might have touched. The seats and floors were likely vacuumed to collect hairs and fibers. Soil tests could show where the mud caked on the bottom of the car came from.

more at link..

Mygirlsadie
02-18-2006, 04:16 AM
Dang that is weird to me also I don't understand why they would want to get rid of the car. I remember when SP got rid of Laci's car her parents were so upset.



The whole thing is odd.What would Jennifer think if she saw her car go by with someone driving it????

petra
02-18-2006, 07:53 AM
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0602/17/ng.01.html

LvsAMystry
02-18-2006, 09:35 AM
I was thinking on this. They used bloodhounds to track the scent from the car and it let them back to the condo, but did they use hounds to track her most recent scent from the condo to wherever? I don't remember seeing or reading about that, but wouldn't that possibly provide a clue as to whether she even made it into her car that morning?

Beyond Belief
02-18-2006, 09:47 AM
Some comments made in the NG show I thought interesting:



Also, it was off the track of going to work.(location of the car)

believe was at 21:56 on Monday night.(last phone call)

There -- we are -- we are still entertaining the possibility that she may have been taken sometime in the evening hours on Monday.(LE comment)

pix of what may be boot
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=boot.jpg

littlemisslegal
02-18-2006, 11:26 AM
jenniferkesse.com

Beyond Belief
02-18-2006, 12:01 PM
I think is the same area as the car was found. This happened on Jan 30.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-mcfbriefs17_406feb17,0,4064624.story

ORANGE COUNTMan charged in beating death -- Video of a fatal beating last month led to the arrest late Wednesday of an Orange County man on first-degree murder charges.

Authorities say Carlos Javier Cancel-Perez used a baseball bat to crush the skull of Benjamin Finley on Jan. 30 near Americana Boulevard and Texas Avenue, Cpl. Allen Lee of the sheriff's homicide unit said Thursday.

LaMer
02-18-2006, 12:25 PM
LaMer wrote: "Mellon, I was thinking, even if Jennifer was in bed and Travis called her after she was in bed, she could've decided to go out and the nightclothes could be on the floor when she decided to get dressed to go out. Either way the nightwear could be on the floor."

But there were clothes laid out on the bed. She wouldn't have laid out clothes if she got up to send the phone.

About the parents selling the car...maybe it's a "setup" to see if someone comes to buy it right away...maybe some thinking they hid something in the car and it might still be there. The article doesn't say what dealership, but someone might drive around until they found it. I would bet that whoever buys it will be watched.

My friend works for a car rental company and they find a lot of instances where renters have sliced carpet, or made hiding places in their rentals (apparently to hide drugs.)






About Jennifer's bed: How many bedrooms did Jennifer's condo have? The reason I ask, is our daughter stayed in our condo when she first moved to FL, and she had one bedroom, but often slept in another, cause of the morning sun.

Then again, her brother and his friend had stayed there, so were the bed linens clean, maybe not, and Jen wasn't planning on sleeping in her own bed. She may not have washed the sheets and I doubt the guys would've done it. They could have tho.

Another thing, quite quirky about me I know, but when I am staying in our condo and I am by myself, I often sleep on the couch, cause I feel more in tuned to hearing any noises, even tho I have a security system. I am a bit nervous there when I am alone. I don't want to be upstairs, as I like to be by the door(wierd I know). So either way, Jen might not have been planning on sleeping in her own bed. just trying to think

Jennifer's car:

Not only were Laci's parents upset with her car being sold, but the prosecutor objected to SP selling his vehicle, right? Didn't Geragos buy it? I'm fuzzy about that one.

Bobbisangel
02-18-2006, 01:33 PM
If someone left their phone at my house and it was already late and dark outside It would be tough chit; they'd have to wait til the morning. I don't care what part of town I lived in. These days, at least here, no part of town is safe. I mean are ya gonna die cuz you don't have your friggin' cellie? How did we survive in the olden days? GMAB!



I don't think that Jennifer mailed the phone that night because when her boyfriend talked to her on the phone at 10-10:30 pm she was already in bed. I doubt that she would get up and get dressed to go and mail a phone. I know I wouldn't unless it was an emergency that got me up and out.

Her parents said last night that Jennifer had taken a shower that morning because the shower was still wet and a towel was wet too. Her dad is positive that she wasn't taken from the condo the night before. Her parents said that all of her morning work routine was normal...makeup on counter, wet shower, discarded work clothes on bed...that she had tried on. Mom said that the bed wasn't made. Parents said that Jennifer's condo looked just like it always did with nothing out of the norm.

LvsAMystry
02-18-2006, 02:14 PM
Okay, I'm trying to find more info on the condos, this is an interesting piece that speaks for itself. This is from a site that rates apartments/condos and this is from a resident that was robbed in May 2005, presumably by someone with a master key. Sorry if this has been found already.

Apartment Ratings (http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/FL-Orlando-Tradition-326011.html#continued)


We Were Robbed There
From: honestaptreview
Date posted: 5/7/2005
Years at this apartment: 2004-2004
1 response


Let me start off by saying...save yourself the time and look elsewhere! We lived at 3735 Conroy Apt 2217 and were robbed a month after we moved in. I came home from work to a locked apartment and soon realized that our safe, xbox, jewelry, electronics and so on were stolen. I called the police only to learn that they were already there...Upstairs at another apartment that had been robbed with keys!! Management had the nerve to try and blame us saying that we should have had our alarm on but they quickly changed their tune when we reminded them that we had put in a maintanance request to have the alarm fixed because the phone man had to unhook it because it was wired incorrectly and continually went off! The apartments did an investigation and told us that the construction company was supposed to change all of the locks as soon as the apartment was built and ready to be rented but there were several units that were not done and someone had a master key! Even though our apartment was locked and the robbers had keys, the apartments said they were not responsible and refused to pay any damages. The gates was ALWAYS BROKEN and it took them weeks to fix it allowing anybody to get in and when we brought to their attention the fact that the gates were broken at the time of the robbery they told us that they were for traffic control not security...NICE! The garbage was horrific and piled into the street on a daily basis...they have one dumpster for 1000 apartments you do the math! This is by far the worst apartment complex I have ever lived in and trust me all of the horrible things you will read if you go down the list of reviews are true!

LvsAMystry
02-18-2006, 02:23 PM
Another from November 2004, and there are several others also. Trend seems to be people having keys too....

Apartment Reviews #2 (http://www.apartmentratings.com/rate/FL-Orlando-Tradition-279062.html)


The worst place I have ever lived
From: -Anonymous-
Date posted: 11/8/2004
Years at this apartment: 2003-2004


Pretty much everyone has said what the deal is with The Tradition, but I wanted to add my 2 cents...
1- The "home buying" situation is absolutely misleading. They give you no paper work on it so you dont really know what it is, but its free so what the hell right? Wrong, it essentially is worthless because you have to work with a realtor who is making full commission and the $ are only deducted from the realtor's commission.
2- Maintainence issues- There were *several* times when we waited over 2-3 days for someone to come out and when I asked about the credit, managements response was that it was a busy time, so it wasnt applicable.
3- BUGS!!- I have lived in FL for two years and have NEVER seen SO MANY spiders. We literally killed 2-3 spiders per day in our apartment, not daddy long legs kind of spiders, these are big brown scary wolf spiders. Not cool
4- Crime, we moved in about a month before the whole shooting incident. THEN, TWO of the apartments in our building were robbed by the guys that had keys (mentioned in another comment). One apartment was DIRECTLY across from ours. My girlfriend and I spoke to management about leaving because she ended up on Xanax because of the anxiety of sleeping and being worried about getting robbed.. or worse, and they were willing to do... you guessed it NOTHING for us.
5- Management billed us incorrectly for rent for 7 months, they were charging us like 5$ less than we were supposed to be paying. Well on the 8th month, they returned our rent check and then tried to charge a late fee because our rent wasnt paid in full, which we had NO IDEA about until that check was returned. We ended up getting the extra erased off our bill, but they expected us to pay for THEIR ERROR.

Luckily we moved out the 1st of October. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE if you are looking for an apartment DO NOT MOVE HERE. They are overpriced and worse... dangerous

13th Juror
02-18-2006, 02:26 PM
"Investigators Collected Clues From Missing Woman's Car"


WFTV - POSTED: 4:42 pm EST February 17, 2006


ORLANDO, Fla. -- Channel 9 has learned some of the clues investigators might have uncovered from Jennifer Kesse's car. The 24-year-old disappeared almost a month ago.

"Something happened there and that's my daughter, a living being, and she was taken from that car," Jennifer's father, Drew Kesse, said.

He said, even with the splashes of processing fluid used to check for evidence, his daughter Jennifer's car is cleaner than she ever kept it. Detectives likely have most of the items of clutter that used to be there, hoping for clues.

"I'm sure they took everything they possibly could out of it and I hope they pulled something off of something in that car to give them a direction," Drew Kesse said.

Fingerprint dust lines the steering wheel, gear shift, door handles and anything else a suspect might have touched. The seats and floors were likely vacuumed to collect hairs and fibers. Soil tests could show where the mud caked on the bottom of the car came from.

"It's just logical thinking of the technology they have nowadays that they have to have something within the car," Drew Kesse said.

Investigators do know, from Jennifer's credit card bill, that she filled her gas tank in Ft. Lauderdale before driving back to Orlando. She went to work, then home and should have had about half a tank left. That's about what's there now, so her attacker may not have taken the car very far.

"It seems to be right to us, but again we're not the professionals, we're letting them do their job and we're doing what we need to do on our end," Drew Kesse said.

Detectives said any evidence from the car has already been sent to a lab for testing. The Florida Department of Law Enforcement handles fingerprints and DNA. The FBI does trace evidence.

Channel 9 has learned there have been requests to expedite any results in this case.

The Kesse's did have a bit of a let down Friday. They were hoping specific information about the person of interest seen walking near where the car was found would be released Friday. The FBI is still calculating the person's height and show size. Those results won't be ready until Tuesday at the earliest.


My thoughts & comments:

This article & news story on WFTV was posted Friday afternoon between 4-5 pm.

By the evening newscasts there were film clips of OPD Lead Investigator (Ring) stating that the "POI" forensics had been completed by the FBI however, they (FBI forensics team) were going to re-check the results again before releasing it to local LE & the media.

It could have been published yesterday - but won't be until Tuesday (at the earliest). With so much hope and attention focused on the identification of this "POI" outside the gate of 'Huntington On The Green's poolhouse area' - I really hope the additional time delay wasn't a mistake.

This excerpt gave me pause for thought.

Drew Kesse's comment - He said, even with the splashes of processing fluid used to check for evidence, his daughter Jennifer's car is cleaner than she ever kept it. Detectives likely have most of the items of clutter that used to be there, hoping for clues.

I watched several film clips of Drew & Logan inspecting Jen's car after LE was finished processing it. In my estimation - the inside of the car was a mess with all that processing fluid residue left in place. I would have thought LE would have (should have) cleaned it up before releasing the car back to Jen's parents. But, apparently not.

I can certainly understand why the Kesses would want that car 'out of their sight' at this point - but, the timing of permanently getting rid of it - leaves me a tad uncomfortable. Jennifer is still considered a "missing person" - not declared deceased with an estate for her parents to dispose of in her absence.


If Jen was a bit of a "clutter-bug" where her car was concerned then it would not surprise me that she was not exactly a neat-freak in her bedroom domain. It seems perfectly logical to me that Jen might decide to go out to mail the package & pick up some "take-out" at a fast food place on Mon. night after speaking with Rob on the phone.

Does it matter that she may have been dressed in her night-clothes & was already in or on the bed when she made that decision?

How long does it take to slip out of a nightgown, let it drop to the bathroom floor and slip on some sweats to run an errand?

I do that sort of thing all the time. I've even been known to leave the house late at night wearing my bathrobe to complete a quickie errand where I do not need to leave my car.

Jen's mother said that the bed was "unmade" when they arrived at her condo on Tuesday and that there were 2 skirts & 1 pair of pants/slacks on the bed. NOT complete outfits that were necessarily laid out for the following day. There was nothing else 'laid out' to go with the skirts or slacks. Perhaps she was still in the process of unpacking from her trip?

Perhaps that "unmade bed" was left unmade by her brother Logan and/or 'friend Travis' - as they were staying in her condo during her absence. It is assumed they slept there. Did they 'do laundry' and change the bedding before she arrived home on Monday night?

I would hope so - but, most young men Logan's age are not exactly known for their tidyness or deserving of gold stars for their good housekeeping skills. (I know 2 of my 3 '20 something' sons were not such tidy housekeepers. lol)

So - I guess the point I'm attempting to make - is .. just because the bed was "unmade' doesn't mean Jennifer slept there on Mon. night. The bed may have been left "unmade". I would imagine that the forensics team would have checked the bedding for Jen's DNA anyway.

I am curious to know if she was the type of gal that always made her bed before leaving for the day - or if she often just left it 'unmade' when she got up in the morning. Might be a helpful clue as to when she disappeared - Mon. night or Tues. a.m. I still have a strong hunch that it was Mon. night.

Okay - even if Jen didn't intend to leave her Condo complex Monday night to "overnight" the phone to Travis - she could have gone out to her car to retrieve additional items brought back from her trip - or even some of the clutter type stuff her Dad said she always had there. (mail, clothing, "stuff")

Let's not forget - there are NO security cameras in her complex. After 10 p.m. - possibly no other resident was outside in the parking area. The perpetrator(s) could have taken Jennifer by surprise right there in her complex as she was removing items from her car or preparing to leave. No video - no witnesses.

Who knows - it's conceivable that the perp could even have been a resident or guest.


Volunteers were at the "Florida Mall" this morning picking up boxes of the newest "missing flyers" that the family had printed. They are now printed in 3 languages - English, Spanish & Creole. Individuals can also print them out directly from the Jennifer Kesse website (http://JenniferKesse.com) - and are requested to do so.

Prayers for the Kesses - and wishing all websleuthers a terrific weekend! :)

JMHO - 13th Juror

littlemisslegal
02-18-2006, 02:49 PM
She doesn't work at a travel agency (her company is called Central Florida Investments, so sounds like she's a financial analyst or broker of some kind), but she did just get back from a cruise so that would most likely have been booked through a travel agency ...the company is westgate resorts , they are a major timeshare corporation. she worked within financial project director news said. recent offer of promotion. a billboards with her pic in occoee fl outside orlando has her pic on it says: a westgate employee is missing with the now familiar flyer pic of her. the area she lives in is very near universal studios-the florida mall , mall of millenia and i-4 -conroy -kirkman . universal is off kirkman rd. the street of texas and americana , orange blossom trail are all streets that cut thru to john young prkway and orange blossom trail or obt as called . the conroy -kirkman area has a lot of apts and not many condos actually. the area near is called metrowest . country clubs, affluent area -nice . some people have made the area of jennnifers apt sound like the outskirts are the ghetto. not true at all. texas-americana is tacky -low level of poor people -known for drugs areas ect -yet not that everyone who lives there is a low life or on drugs that would insult many who are not !. the apts are low priced and attract the poorer classand the class of rough living. respectable familys live in this areas too trying to provide a home and such for their familys. it is not correct to say this is an area you will be found dead in if you are out in it -just a chance of this anywhere -any place -could happen . the street called john young parkway runs miles . the jail called 33rd street is on it -minutes away from thisi whole area ,along with bail bond agency and a pancake house . if someone made bail or was released it is in area of all described here. the buisness on conroy include olive garden , fridays ect -all the nice place we all love to eat at. the mall has upscale and a lot of outlet malls near international drive , disney is very near on i-4 . seaworld-holy land. it is not a area that is portrayed as the wild side of orlando. the very area that is so nice can not be blocks away . bless jennifer for a safe return to her family and her life she has /we all can have this happen anywhee any place . always be aware of your surrounding =carry pepper spray . yes i am a fl resident and know all areas fairly well -even disney has their own problems -some let their guard down when on vacation --do not think its all fantasy land -its real out there too. i seen to many tourist think they can leave their brains at home because we are on vacation -not true. locals and tourist neeed to use their heads - i seen tourist count money in a parking lot ! then they wonder why someone may want to rob them ====hello ???? jennifer ran into someone -but who ?shes is smart and aware i bet -yet -now missing . how sad . bless her .

LvsAMystry
02-18-2006, 03:35 PM
Here is a site I found that has pics of various condo conversion projects in the area of Orlando near the Mall. It has several of Mosaic complex also. Lets you get a good feel for what these complexes are like anyway. I wish it showed the parking situation better at her complex, though.

Condo Conversion pics in area (http://www.propertytransactions.com/metrowest_condos.htm)

Better yet, here's one just for her complex

Mosaic at Millenia (http://www.ownmosaic.com/flash/index_nop.html)

littlemisslegal
02-18-2006, 03:47 PM
yes -excellent link to metrowest area. as you can see it is not the ghetto! texas and americana street, where car found , have simple apt complexes . even if you pay thousand of dollars in rent or live in a low income project ---once you leave your door and drive or walk you are no longer the value of your rent of how much you pay to live in style -you enter real world . you can not put oneself in a bubble and think if i only go drive to ann klein outlet i am safe but if i drive to bargain store i am not . its ridiculous when people think -oh she lived near bad area so thats why !not true jmo-anyhone who travels to work ect goes to areas they would not be able to afford to live in or would not want to rich or poor . this was very accurate of orlando link -then you have areas that are for millionares and homeless . like everywhere else in the world .

ShowerSinger
02-18-2006, 03:59 PM
33rd Street is an exit off of I-4, and it does have that jail there. Also, a 7-11, but mostly it is an industrial area. I know, as I had the sales territory there. It was scary in the daylight. AND, yes, there are some--few, but some nicer areas surrounding the industrial sides. OBT, well, now that's another road known to all as mostly seedy. Orlando is soooo spread out! Still, I have to wonder if this perp had some casual acquaintance to her. Perhaps someone from work? Timeshare workers have a high turnover rate, as sales are commissioned. Those previous posts about the complex make you wonder about the maintenance side, as well. I'm more inclined to think she was stalked/targeted than just an opportunity crime. And someone said on an earlier post about how she might have gone to her car to retrieve some items she left in it, after her trip, and all. I too, have run out to my car to retrieve my blow dryer, toothbrush, whatever after a long trip. Even as the sun was coming up... We just don't know, and I truly pray that she is one of those rare cases, where she will be freed from her captor(s). About the family wanting to sell the car...well, just maybe that was a rash emotionally charged response.
I am supportive of LE's efforts in this crime. Orlando is such a haven for transients looking for work, I really worry sometimes that the employers don't do sufficient employee screening.
I tend to think that LE will resolve this, and are careful in what they release to the public.
That "mud" under the car is strange, though. Most places are simply SAND! And more SAND.
I do wonder if a co-worker/employee lived anywhere near her. But, I guess police have searched those records.

13th Juror
02-18-2006, 04:08 PM
Here is a site I found that has pics of various condo conversion projects in the area of Orlando near the Mall. It has several of Mosaic complex also. Lets you get a good feel for what these complexes are like anyway. I wish it showed the parking situation better at her complex, though.

Condo Conversion pics in area (http://www.propertytransactions.com/metrowest_condos.htm)

Better yet, here's one just for her complex

Mosaic at Millenia (http://www.ownmosaic.com/flash/index_nop.html)



As for the parking situation at 'Mosaic at Millenia' - Jennifer's parking spot is directly in front of her condo. Open parking - not covered like some others that have a carport or garage.

During Greta's interview at Mosaic with the Kesse parents, I noted that Jen's space is 2226 which probably corresponds with her apartment number. It seems that's how most assigned spaces are handled at the condo complexes down here.


13th Juror

strach304
02-18-2006, 05:00 PM
As for the parking situation at 'Mosaic at Millenia' - Jennifer's parking spot is directly in front of her condo. Open parking - not covered like some others that have a carport or garage.

During Greta's interview at Mosaic with the Kesse parents, I noted that Jen's space is 2226 which probably corresponds with her apartment number. It seems that's how most assigned spaces are handled at the condo complexes down here.


13th Juror


I don't think that's a good idea at all. If someone is stalking you then they know by your car and where you park which unit you live in. That's if there is a main entrance the front door to each unit is inside. That's the kind I had at one time with a security door, in other words you can't tell from the street which unit the person is going in. If they really want to find you they will but at the same time it makes it harder for them and someone may notice them as well.

concernedperson
02-18-2006, 05:05 PM
Jennifer's condo has an open air breezeway to each of units. I saw pics of it on Greta's blog a few days ago. It also had some "dark" spots in the corridor/stairwell area.

Mygirlsadie
02-18-2006, 06:47 PM
Those condos are beautiful. I didnt realize that where she lived was so nice. I noticed in the picture right before the last one that there are garages also under amenities it says 'monitored alarm systems' ..I wonder what that means?



Here is a site I found that has pics of various condo conversion projects in the area of Orlando near the Mall. It has several of Mosaic complex also. Lets you get a good feel for what these complexes are like anyway. I wish it showed the parking situation better at her complex, though.

Condo Conversion pics in area (http://www.propertytransactions.com/metrowest_condos.htm)

Better yet, here's one just for her complex

Mosaic at Millenia (http://www.ownmosaic.com/flash/index_nop.html)

Beyond Belief
02-18-2006, 08:45 PM
All the folks that called Jennifer Monday night called her on her cell phone I think. Who says she was even at the apartment during those calls. She could have been anywhere. At least I think the boyfriend said she was on the cell when he talked to her at 10.

LvsAMystry
02-18-2006, 09:17 PM
All the folks that called Jennifer Monday night called her on her cell phone I think. Who says she was even at the apartment during those calls. She could have been anywhere. At least I think the boyfriend said she was on the cell when he talked to her at 10.

I don't know whether he said she was on her cell or not, but he did say she was in her bed while he was talking to her.

Beyond Belief
02-18-2006, 09:23 PM
I know I don't always tell the truth as to where I am on the cell phone, especially if its someone who would be angry with me if I was out and about when I shouldn't be.

LvsAMystry
02-18-2006, 09:30 PM
I wouldn't want to question her character to assume she wasn't being truthful. I suppose it's always possible in anything, but I haven't heard anything about her character that would lead me to think she led a lifestyle that would require lying to people she cared about.

Aside from that, her bed was unmade and had been slept in, nightclothes on floor of bathroom with wet shower and towel so it appears there was a morning shower.

I suppose there could be 1000 scenarios created in our minds about it being the night before, but I really think that logic points to something happening that morning, whether it was before she left her condo, on the condo grounds, or on her way to work.

littlemisslegal
02-18-2006, 09:41 PM
Those condos are beautiful. I didnt realize that where she lived was so nice. I noticed in the picture right before the last one that there are garages also under amenities it says 'monitored alarm systems' ..I wonder what that means?MONITORED ALARM MEANS THE BURGLAR ALAM SYSTEM IS TIED INTO THE OFFICE THAT MONITORS ALL ALARM ALERTS -CALLS BACK HOMEOWNER IF ALARM GOES OFF OR CALLS POLICE TO CHECK OUT ALARM GONE OFF. IT CALLS BACK AND SEND POLICE OUT IF NO ANSWER ECT.

citrus
02-18-2006, 09:55 PM
I think "the friend's cell phone" is key in this whole mystery

If the last conversation before going to bed was with her boyfriend why didn't she mention the conversation she had with her brother about "the friend's cell phone"?

If she was abducted from her apartment by a complete stranger why he took "the friend's cell"?

In my opinion she left her apartment with somebody she knew I don't think she left in a hurry.

LaMer
02-18-2006, 11:50 PM
I think "the friend's cell phone" is key in this whole mystery

If the last conversation before going to bed was with her boyfriend why didn't she mention the conversation she had with her brother about "the friend's cell phone"?

If she was abducted from her apartment by a complete stranger why he took "the friend's cell"?

In my opinion she left her apartment with somebody she knew I don't think she left in a hurry.

Hi Citrus, Welcome to Websleuths!

Good question about the call from Rob. From what 13th Juror posted a thread or so back, it was reported, it was the guy who left his cell-phone at Jen's who called about the phone. I dunno tho, we have had conflicting reports, as I think it was originally reported it was her brother who had called her about the phone, but maybe they both called her. Also, it seems to me, we were left in the dark for quite awhile as to what was the package Jennifer had to mail. That's how I remember it.

I don't know if the guy, Travis (I think that's his name) called before or after Rob called. Anyone?

I think there are lots of things we don't know and of course it is good to hold back info, as we all know and can respect.

Good question tho, to as why would an abductor take the cell-phone from her condo.

Personally, I believe Jennifer may have gone out that night to mail the phone. We all seem to be divided on that theory.

She might not have wanted to take the time in the morning. Possibly not wanting to be late for work. I wonder if she was late for work on Monday, when she returned from her trip, if so, she wouldn't want to be late again. Then there is always the chance she could've mailed it from work too. Maybe. Maybe not.

The damp towels are puzzeling tho, but who knows how long it would've taken them to dry and the water left there (LE wasn't convinced of the drying time), and she could've showered that evening and left her make-up and all on the counter when un-packing. Boy I dunno. It's all so sad.

I just pray she is found and can come home ALIVE!

strach304
02-19-2006, 02:44 AM
In relation to the phone has anyone considered the brother asked her to mail it but the friend called her also (phone records) and asked her to meet him with the phone that night or on her way to work in the morning? Could be why we're hearing she talked to both about the phone. I haven't been keeping up with all the details in this case but I did catch that the brother was at her condo with friends while she was away. Hope they have checked them all out.

Mygirlsadie
02-19-2006, 03:12 AM
Since the phone hasnt been recieved yet then we know that someone has the phone, whether they threw it away or not It will interesting to see what calls were made on that phone AFTER (if any) Jennifer went missing.

Beyond Belief
02-19-2006, 07:39 AM
Dampness in towels and in the bathroom in nothing unusual in Florida. The towels could remain that way for more than 24 hours. I don't know about a wet bathtub.

This young woman is in danger, everything has to be questioned. Questioning her "character" isn't an issue, making decisions to what to investigate as possibilites will help solve this mystery. This young woman got her self in a vulnerable situation somewhere along the line. Orlando is a town that is awake 24 hours a day so it wouldn't be unusual for someone to go out at any hour to run an errand.

13th Juror
02-19-2006, 12:25 PM
From what 13th Juror posted a thread or so back, it was reported, it was the guy who left his cell-phone at Jen's who called about the phone.

I dunno tho, we have had conflicting reports, as I think it was originally reported it was her brother who had called her about the phone, but maybe they both called her. Also, it seems to me, we were left in the dark for quite awhile as to what was the package Jennifer had to mail. That's how I remember it.



Yes, you are correct, LaMer. They both spoke with Jen.

From the news film clips aired here in the Orlando area - I posted exactly what both Travis & Logan said to the reporters. 'Their words' to the media.

Each said that they had spoken on the phone with Jennifer on Monday. First Logan called his sister - to inform her about the "left behind" cell requesting her assistance in 'overnighting it' back to Travis. Later, she spoke with Travis and assured him she would 'overnight the phone'. She advised him that he had missed some calls & suggested he call his 'voice mail' to retrieve his messages.

In one clip, Travis said the phone had never arrived at his home. He said he had kept in touch with his parents 'back home' as they were checking his mailbox daily It was not determined in the news clip whether Jen called Travis or vice-versa.

Drew Kesse said he spoke to his daughter early on Mon. evening as she returned home from work. In another report - Joyce Kesse said the last time she had spoken to Jennifer was on Monday morning as she was returning to Orlando from Lauderdale.

News reports from the Kesse family also had statements that Jennifer spoke (on the phone) to several friends on Monday evening - Rob Allen being the last known person to speak with her.

All of the above info I've posted -- are direct statements on the local TV news directly from the horse's mouth - so-to-speak. Some of it also appeared in published reports, I believe.




I don't know if the guy, Travis (I think that's his name) called before or after Rob called. Anyone?


Yes, that's his name. Travis Bourguignon.

Travis did not give a specific time frame as to when he spoke with Jen on Monday night - at least not in the clips aired by the media.

I do not think Travis & Logan live here in the Orlando area. Not the Kesse parents either. I think they reside elsewhere in Florida. West coast - Tampa area?? Sorry - can't remember exactly what I heard several weeks ago.

It appears according to the family & news reports that Rob was the 'last known person' to speak with Jen. However, the phone records have been (or are being) checked. No results have been published or reported as yet - and frankly I wouldn't expect LE to release that info when they secure it.



I think there are lots of things we don't know and of course it is good to hold back info, as we all know and can respect.

Good question tho, to as why would an abductor take the cell-phone from her condo.

Personally, I believe Jennifer may have gone out that night to mail the phone. We all seem to be divided on that theory.

She might not have wanted to take the time in the morning. Possibly not wanting to be late for work. I wonder if she was late for work on Monday, when she returned from her trip, if so, she wouldn't want to be late again. Then there is always the chance she could've mailed it from work too. Maybe. Maybe not.

The damp towels are puzzeling tho, but who knows how long it would've taken them to dry and the water left there (LE wasn't convinced of the drying time), and she could've showered that evening and left her make-up and all on the counter when un-packing. Boy I dunno. It's all so sad.

I just pray she is found and can come home ALIVE!




The damp towel(s) could be a bit of a puzzle for me, as well - but, I tend to agree with you, LaMer. I live down here in this mostly humid climate and I can tell you from experience that it often takes quite a while for wet towels to dry or a shower floor or tub not to show signs of use many hours later.

After a long day - both driving the 2 and a half to 3 hrs from Lauderdale, a full day at work, then unpacking & getting re-situated at home - I'd certainly be taking a bath or shower before retiring for the night. IMO - the amount of dampness in the towels might also depend on whether she shampooed her hair and could have used one as a sort of turban afterwards. (just a thought)

As for the make-up and toiletries back in her bathroom - isn't that what we all do when we unpack from a trip and need to be organized for our morning routine?

I know I always do. Just because her make-up stuff was "laid out in the bathroom" doesn't necessarily denote to me that she was present in her condo on Tuesday morning getting ready for work. But - on the other hand - maybe she was. :confused:

I also hope there is a miracle in this puzzling case - but the realist in me isn't holding out much hope for that outcome. Not after almost a month and not a single sign that she is alive. :(


13th Juror

13th Juror
02-19-2006, 12:56 PM
Since the phone hasnt been recieved yet then we know that someone has the phone, whether they threw it away or not It will interesting to see what calls were made on that phone AFTER (if any) Jennifer went missing.




Hi MyGirlSadie :)

Yes, that cell phone is an item of high interest to LE. It was one of the specific items volunteers were told to look for along the roadways and buffer zones last weekend when the search changed from the woods & canals area to neighborhood roads.

I can't imagine that the perp(s) would be stupid enough to use the phone or even turn it on (tracking signal) but ya' just never know how utterly stupid some criminals can be! Let's hope they did!!!

I truly hope that "someone who knows something" comes forward and contacts LE.

My current thinking is that - with $115,000.00 reward on the line - either there really is only one perp and no one else knows anything - or both perps are so deeply involved that neither can afford to confess their participation. Especially, if Jen is no longer alive. :(

Special prayers on this Sunday for Jennifer, the Kesse family and the investigators working so diligently on this case. :angel:

13th Juror

audrey77
02-19-2006, 01:34 PM
Orlando is a town that is awake 24 hours a day so it wouldn't be unusual for someone to go out at any hour to run an errand.

No kidding... I loved going to Winn Dixie at midnight- no one was ever there! I got my shopping done fast!

LaMer
02-19-2006, 03:05 PM
Mr. and Mrs. Kesse were on FOX News 2:55PM EST

They reported the # of fliers which were distributed yesterday. Another 270,00 to go tomorrow, I think this was by mail.

Mr. Kesse said, Jennifer called him on her way home from work while he was cooking dinner, she then talked to her brother, a few hours to a girlfriend, and then to Rob. No mention of her talking to Travis about the cell-phone. I thought I had read where they did talk to each other about the cell-phone. I have to check that one out.

They also mentioned, Jennifer was mentioned on Ameriaca's Most Wanted last night. Sad to say, I read on another forum, she was only a 10 sec clip.

They were pleading for that one tip!

Beyond Belief
02-19-2006, 07:01 PM
13th juror nice in info about the make up. I wonder if there was kleenex is the trash she used to blot her lipstick.

The things in the bathroom could have been, she slipped into a nightie after she arrived home, lounged around, then showered, washed her hair, put on a clean nightie and went to bed. I wonder if she has a habit of washing her hair in the a.m.?
If she had several pieces of luggage, did she remove them from the car when she first arrived home? Or did she go back out to the car after dark?
I wonder if the packed clothes had gotten thrown in the washing machine as you would think?

Beyond Belief
02-19-2006, 08:15 PM
Can we do a profile on this person/persons?

Something like
Unemployed, high school dropout, 30's, male, drug user, outstanding warrants, past due child support, renter/flop house resident, prison record (burglary, assault, drugs,auto theft)

Here's two profile images I found tonight. No coloring just negative with color.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=kessefaces.jpg

Could be image from used video, but showed up on the car. Looks like guy carrying box and maybe purse drapped over his arm.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=carimages.jpg

I went back and highlighted where I "think" the face is at. I couldn't even find again on that other one.
http://photobucket.com/albums/d179/Kafthy/?action=view&current=carimages2.jpg

sailorgirl
02-20-2006, 11:11 AM
There are no early collections and the only 24 hour post office is located at the airport, which is about 25 minutes from her condo.

ketel0ne
02-20-2006, 11:15 AM
Kesse Family Hopes FBI Will Release More Information (http://www.wesh.com/news/7253293/detail.html)

The family of Jennifer Kesse hopes the FBI will release new information Monday regarding a person of interest in her case, WESH 2 News reported.

kato
02-20-2006, 11:20 AM
Kesse Family Hopes FBI Will Release More Information (http://www.wesh.com/news/7253293/detail.html)

The family of Jennifer Kesse hopes the FBI will release new information Monday regarding a person of interest in her case, WESH 2 News reported.

Please keep us updated. Thanks.

audrey77
02-20-2006, 11:41 AM
There are no early collections and the only 24 hour post office is located at the airport, which is about 25 minutes from her condo.

Remember- there's Kinkos (Fed Ex) and the UPS store... The Kinkos near me was open 24-7.

littlemisslegal
02-20-2006, 12:32 PM
there is one post office on kirkman rd too but not open 24 hrs . plenty of mail box drop off place like mail box ect types .maybe westgate resorts were she worked at or their offices has mail room -most corps do .maybe she took phone to be mailed and planned to mail from her own office . someone asked if her alarm was set and still ringing in morning -did we ever find out ?

littlemisslegal
02-20-2006, 12:36 PM
No kidding... I loved going to Winn Dixie at midnight- no one was ever there! I got my shopping done fast! and those all nite walmarts get some weird people in them at nite too --they seen to just hang out in all the aisles .

Beyond Belief
02-20-2006, 12:42 PM
I am always disappointed when the small details aren't released immediately. If the the window of opportunity was smaller, local people to the area could really search their brains for something out of the ordinary they saw in that time period. Trying to recall details over say a 24 hour time frame is difficult and most people won't even put forth the effort. Narrowing it down to say 7. a.m. to 8:30 a.m. someone might just recall something.

WholeLottaRosie
02-20-2006, 03:31 PM
If you go out to overnite something and put in a box how do you pay? Do you have an account number with the shipper or use a credit card? Just curious - I haven't ever done that except with a Fed Ex shipper number - others I go to a Mail Boxes during business hours.

kittykat1
02-20-2006, 03:41 PM
You can prepay with a credit card OR, if you have an account with whoever, they send you a bill.

I would say most would prepay with a credit card.

WholeLottaRosie
02-20-2006, 03:53 PM
I didn't realize you could do that as I never have. The few times I overnite in the box I use the shipper number and never paid attention. Duh.

Beyond Belief
02-20-2006, 03:57 PM
Many moons ago Fedx would let you put a personal check in the flap for the amount, which use to be 7.00.

13th Juror
02-20-2006, 03:58 PM
Remember- there's Kinkos (Fed Ex) and the UPS store... The Kinkos near me was open 24-7.



LOL, Audrey77 .. I was just about to post the exact same thing when I saw your post. :D

I agree - there are several Kinkos that are open 24/7 (in non-scary areas) within 4-10 miles of my home. I've utilized their convenient facilities late at night when they're less busy more times than I can count. Love our local Kinkos! :)


Also - SailorGirl, a hearty welcome to Websleuths! :D Are you in the Orlando area?

You're correct that there is only one late night post office and it's located just east of OIA off Tradeport Blvd.

I would have disagreed with you though that it would take 25 minutes from Jen's condo at Mosaic at Millenia. I was guessing, at the most - 15-18 minutes. 'Mosaic' is 20 miles closer to that postal facility than my location and it only takes me 35-40 minutes (after 10 in the evening) to arrive at that postal facility.

Anyway, I did a quick MSN search and found that you were probably closer to the correct travel time. It's 15.4 miles to that P.O. with an 11.8 mile return trip. Estimated drive times were 22 min & 21 min. respectively.

Map from Jen's condo to the only late-night airport off Tradeport Blvd - 15.4 mi - 22 min there & 11.8 miles - 21 min. return (http://mappoint.msn.com/(pfewvb55s0t1ddzxfkdkmd45)/PrintRoute.aspx?&startname=3573+Conroy+Rd%2c+Orlando%2c+FL+32839&endname=Post+Office+Blvd%2c+Orlando%2c+FL+32827&startlocation=28.48820%2c-81.42884&endlocation=28.41148%2c-81.32910&datasetlangid=USA&routetype=Quickest&routeunit=Miles&MPMtd=DIR&L=USA&C=28.4525834651169%2c-81.3870763728358&A=50&S=405%2c320&PN=1097182442&P=|28.4881622996181%2c-81.4287297707051|flag_start|Start|L1||28.411438800 3945%2c-81.3290704507381|flag_end|End|L1|&IMS=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,)


Still -'Kinkos' would be a much smarter choice for Jennifer and there is one on Universal Blvd - not far from Jen's condo. I wonder if LE has checked the routes to those locations - and surrounding areas?


Map from Jen's condo (3573 Conroy Rd, Orl) to closest Kinkos (9400 Universal Blvd, Orl) - 5.7 miles - 9 min. (http://mappoint.msn.com/(pfewvb55s0t1ddzxfkdkmd45)/PrintRoute.aspx?&StartName=3573+Conroy+Rd%2c+Orlando%2c+FL+32839&StartLocation=28.48820%2c-81.42884&EndName=9400+Universal+Blvd%2c+Orlando%2c+FL+32819&EndLocation=28.43354%2c-81.46860&DataSetLangID=USA&RouteType=Quickest&RouteUnit=Miles&MPMtd=DIR&L=USA&C=28.4635454400576%2c-81.448524590491&A=25&S=405%2c320&PN=1097182442&P=|28.4881622996181%2c-81.4287297707051|flag_start|Start|L1||28.433519080 2813%2c-81.4685976225883|flag_end|End|L1|&IMS=0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,)


Lots of 'missing flyers' passed out at the Daytona 500 yesterday. My hubby & son said there were quite a number of volunteers there - and "tons" of flyers!

13th Juror

13th Juror
02-20-2006, 04:24 PM
If you go out to overnite something and put in a box how do you pay? Do you have an account number with the shipper or use a credit card?

Just curious - I haven't ever done that except with a Fed Ex shipper number - others I go to a Mail Boxes during business hours.



Hi Medusa :)

To respond to your question ...

We have accounts (secured by a credit card) with FedEx, FedEx Ground, & UPS. Pre-printed shipping labels with account holder's name, address & acct. # are sent directly from these shippers along with any packaging materials you may need. Very convenient! :)

Usually we just leave the package at the front door for a regular pick-up but, if it's a rush kinda thing -sometimes we take it to Kinkos or to the airport FedEx to get it out on a flight immediately.

13th Juror

13th Juror
02-20-2006, 04:45 PM
Our earliest local afternoon/evening news is at 4 pm on WKMG - local6.

No news release yet today by either local LE or the FBI on forensics - or anything else.

Just a quickie quip from the anchor that it's been 4 weeks today since any known person has had contact with Jennifer. Still waiting for a break ...

13th Juror

Beyond Belief
02-20-2006, 10:48 PM
I just read some suggestions in another blog.
They suggested the hat was a Kangol type. http://www.villagehatshop.com/kangol.html

Pants looked stranged like they were tucked in. Maybe a cook.
Shoes had white logo on side.

strach304
02-20-2006, 11:07 PM
Kangol is the brand they have every style hat imaginable just about. What pic did the info on hat and shoes come from? Has the fbi been able to get better results? ROTC type uniform?

LaMer
02-20-2006, 11:44 PM
I also hope there is a miracle in this puzzling case - but the realist in me isn't holding out much hope for that outcome. Not after almost a month and not a single sign that she is alive. :(


13th Juror


Thank you 13th Juror for your reply. :)

I agree, reality is knocking on my door also.

I think it IS going to take a miracle at this point also to find her alive, as it has been a month or so since Jennifer went missing.

It appears to me, one lead after another has fizzled out. LE must be at their wits end. I'm beginning to think, they want the public and Jennifer's family to believe they are hot on the trail all the time, but I am dubious.

I don't know how many articles I have read where they say case almost solved or 'this week'! Here is another: Read this article and see if you take it the way I did, where it is stated from the tips from AMW, the investigators will have something to do on Monday! Were they running out of things to do? Were they running out of tips and were the previous leads running into dead-ends? Hopefully the FBI and when they get the lab reports back, Jennifer will be found.

I never read anything about 'ongoing' searches for Jennifer. I don't think there has been a 'search center' established, infact didn't the searches cease already?

So much appears to be hanging on the poi person. Before that it was the sighting/prostitute debacle.

There has been great emphasis, that Jenniferis still alive, but I have to wonder since the prostitute look-alike, if that has changed.

This case is beginning to have Patsy Ramsey's voice ringing in my head :eek: we need that one more tip!

In Today' News:

http://www.cfnews13.com/StoryHeadline.aspx?id=13454

Kesse Search: New Information
Case May Soon Be Solved

New Information tonight in the search for Jennifer Kesse. Authorities believe this could be the week that makes or breaks the case.

For a month now, Jennifer Kesse's parents have begged the public for help in finding their daughter. And it looks like your response to the case is now bringing detectives closer and closer to clues. News 13 has learned an orlando detective in the Jennifer Kesse case was in Washington, DC this weekend at the hotline center at America's Most Wanted. He has returned to orlando fueled, with more leads in this case.

The show that helped capture 878 fugitives, could be bringing detectives closer to answers about Jennifer Kesse. A Sargeant in charge of the case tells news 13 he worked 76 hours this past week, including, collecting information from viewers who watch America's Most Wanted. We've learned the show that featured Jennifer Kesse for just 47 seconds this weekend, brought enough information to the case that kept detectives busy Monday. We're told detectives are positive some of this information this week could very well break the case. In fact this is a big week. Detectives are anxiously awaiting FBI results from special surveyors who studied the picture of the person of interest. That information should be release to viewers soon. Detectives hope someone can help find that person of interest, seen walking near the complex where Jennifer Kesse car was found. News 13 has also learned, police are waiting for any and all evidence found inside the Jennifer Kesse car. We've learned evidence was sent for further analysis to crime labs operated by the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Detectives tell News 13, the smallest piece of evidence could be just they are looking for, that's why they've received special permission to expedite those results.
-cont at link

LaMer
02-20-2006, 11:53 PM
Kangol is the brand they have every style hat imaginable just about. What pic did the info on hat and shoes come from? Has the fbi been able to get better results? ROTC type uniform?

Strach, at the condo where Jennifer's car had been found, there was a surveilance camera which had two shots of a person walking by there about the time LE thought Jennifer's car might have been left there.


There is a link for the pics and some work done on the pics by Beyond Belief, on the page 2 and 3, I believe.

The FBI was at 'the' condo this week working with the camera to see what they thought as far as distance/clarity etc, and are now analyzing the pictures. The report as far as we know, is slow in coming. I think it was due days ago.

Go check out the pics and tell us what u think, please. So far, we all see something different. BB has put a lot of work into the pics.

harleysnana
02-21-2006, 01:49 AM
You're correct that there is only one late night post office and it's located just east of OIA off Tradeport Blvd.
13th Juror


I just wanted to add that you can print postage online at the USPS website
using a credit card.
It is possible she did this.
Also... to drop off a package that has postage the post office wouldn't
need to be open late. They have drop boxes.

docwho3
02-21-2006, 02:34 AM
I wonder if there was a gardener/landscaper with a pump spray or an exterminator with a pump spray seen in the area when that pic of the POI turned up?

Beyond Belief
02-21-2006, 07:51 AM
I thought about that one, doc. Maybe mistaking wrinkles around the knees and actually it is a hose of some kind.