View Full Version : Logan Lynn Tucker, 6, Missing since 2002, Mother Charged With First Degree Murder- OK
PonderingThings
02-24-2006, 05:24 PM
http://www.doenetwork.us/nampn/cases/tucker_logan.html
PHOTOS AT LINK
Logan Lynn Tucker
Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance
# Missing Since: June 23, 2002 from Woodward, Oklahoma
# Classification: Endangered Missing
# Date Of Birth: April 10, 1996
# Age: 6
# Height: 3'6"
# Weight: 42 lbs.
# Hair Color: Blond
# Eye Color: Blue
# Race: White
# Gender: Male
Details of Disappearance
During June 2002, Tucker was living with his mother, Katherine Rutan, his younger brother, and a roommate. The exact date of Tucker's disappearance is unknown, but on June 23rd, Rutan told her roommate and her friends that the Department of Human Services had removed him from the home. Human Services had taken the child before when his mother threatened him, so no one questioned Rutan's story.
Tucker's grandparents reported his disappearance on July 7, after trying to contact Tucker and getting evasive answers from his mother as to his whereabouts. When the police went to question Rutan, she said Tucker went to stay with an uncle in West Virginia. The uncle, however, does not live in West Virginia and claims he had not seen Tucker in over a year. Tucker's uncle has cooperated with police and is not considered a suspect in his nephew's disappearance. Rutan has hired a lawyer and refused a polygraph test. Tucker's case remains unsolved.
PonderingThings
02-24-2006, 05:26 PM
http://www.channeloklahoma.com/news/7404913/detail.html
PHOTO OF MOTHER, and VIDEO AT LINK
Woodward Mother Charged With First-Degree Murder
POSTED: 12:17 pm CST February 24, 2006
UPDATED: 1:52 pm CST February 24, 2006
WOODWARD, Okla. -- Woodward police have arrested the mother of a young boy missing since June 2002 and have charged her with first-degree murder.
Katherine Pollard was arrested 3 1/2 years after 6-year-old Logan Tucker disappeared.
A massive air and land search failed to turn up any sign of the boy and, until now, no arrests had been made in connection with his disappearance.
Authorities have pointed to inconsistencies in Pollard's statements during the course of their investigation. Pollard was also jailed recently in Missouri for writing bad checks.
In an interview with Eyewitness News 5 in July 2002, Pollard said she was cooperating in the investigation.
"I do feel like a suspect, but I've tried to help anyway I could," Pollard said.
But Woodward County Sheriff Les Morton on Friday confirmed to Eyewitness News 5 that Pollard has indeed been charged.
"I think we've got a good case based on the evidence and things that we have," Morton said.
Pollard has claimed that she gave her son to a relative for care, but that relative has denied ever seeing the child.
Volunteers joined deputies and officers to search the area of Fort Supply Lake for several days following Logan's disappearance. The search failed to turn up any signs of the boy. Several tips on the case also failed to pan out.
PrayersForMaura
02-27-2006, 04:37 PM
Grandmother Of A Missing Oklahoma Boy Speaks Out About Why She Thinks Her Daughter Is Responsible
The mother of a murder suspect says she's certain her daughter is guilty. The daughter is accused of a killing her own 6 year old boy.
News on 6 reporter Emory Bryan says this is a complicated case. The suspect's mother is the victim's grandmother. She's having to deal with the loss of a grandson and the trial that's coming for her daughter, Katherine Rutan.
Connie Henson lives in Tulsa. She's the grandmother. Her grandson - 6 year old Logan Tucker has been missing for four years.
Authorities believe Katherine Rutan killed him, and they arrested her last Friday. Henson has believed all along that her daughter killed Logan and that she didn't want her other child either. "She would call my husband and me all the time and tell me to come get the boys, she was about to kill them. Everytime she broke up with a man, she wanted us to take the boys."
More: http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1&id=99648
cathieq
02-27-2006, 05:01 PM
Everytime she broke up with a man, she wanted us to take the boys."
So she continually threatened to kill the boys and still had custody of them? How so? What went wrong? Grandmom, from what I've read of her, surely reported her daughter so why did no one act on it? Did they even check the woman out? Our system of checks and balances is so terribly screwed up....
Mygirlsadie
02-27-2006, 05:39 PM
I am so sick of people..
SadieJane
03-30-2006, 04:06 AM
New search for this poor kid. A lead came in to police that he was left in a landfill. The person the tip came from apparently passed a polygraph. I hope Logan gets the proper burial that he deserves and they use this evidence to lock up his mother FOREVER! I remember seeing his sweet face when this happened-- how could someone hurt such an innocent little person?
More: http://www.enidnews.com/localnews/local_story_088005613.html?keyword=topstory
lisag
03-30-2006, 10:53 AM
This breaks my heart. How on earth can a parent do this to their own child... I will never be able to understad. I hope this POS spends the rest of her life rotting away.
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:21 AM
The trial is in progress.
Witnesses refute suspect's story on boy's whereabouts
ALVA — Testimony continued Tuesday in the first-degree murder trial of a woman accused of killing her son in 2002 and dumping his body somewhere near Woodward.
Prosecutors say Katherine Rutan killed 6-year-old Logan Lynn Tucker sometime in June of 2002 while she and her two sons were living in Woodward.
Despite a series of searches of the surrounding area and the local dump, Logan's body has never been found, yet prosecutors believe they have enough circumstantial evidence to convict Rutan of his murder.
much more at this link:
http://newsok.com/article/3112717/1188362525
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:30 AM
Testimony: Mother Emotionless About Son's Disappearance
http://kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=134787
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:35 AM
Interviews of little brother shown at murder trial
Big Snip
Jurors hear DHS workers' testimony
The jury also heard testimony from two state Department of Human Services workers who say in 2002 Justin directed them to several rural locations around Woodward where he said his mother took him and Logan about the time of Logan's disappearance.
"I asked why this place, and Justin answered that this was the place where they stopped to dig flowers,” Linda Semmel said.
"He said, ‘This is where my mom went through the fence to the grassy area.'”
Semmel testified that they also drove by Rutan's former boyfriend's house in Fort Supply, where Justin said his mom got a shovel and plastic, as well as another location where DHS worker Christie Castor testified that as they stopped the car, Justin became agitated.
FBI Special Agent Ron Parrish testified during one interview Parrish asked why Justin's mother needed plastic and a shovel, to which the boy replied, "to bury Logan.”
Parrish also testified that on the day Justin said his mother took Logan away, his skin was "white — whiter than all of us.”
http://newsok.com/article/3113433/1188411385
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SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:37 AM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070827_1__ALVAT62814
In testimony last week, jurors were told Rutan once said she wished she could find a way to kill her children and get away with it. And a document prepared by Rutan's father says two months before Logan disappeared he asked if he and his younger brother could live with the grandparents in Florida.
Prosecutors also presented photos they say show Rutan taking part in a topless contest just days after Logan disappeared.
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:45 AM
Brother debunks Pollard story
http://www.woodwardnews.net/local/local_story_240094328.html
Parrish said during the interview Pollard told him that she had, in fact, had asked Marquardt take her son, but did not know why her brother had not returned him as she said he was supposed to on July 13,14, or 15.
“She was saying that she expected him to be returned, she had no idea why he wasn’t returned,” he said.
Parrish testified that Pollard told him about two phone calls she claimed Marquardt made to her on June 21 and 22, saying he was coming to Oklahoma to visit their mother, Connie Henson. He said Pollard claimed Marquardt agreed to take Tucker and then picked him up on June 23.
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But Pollard maintained Marquardt had taken Tucker. She even told Parrish about a message she received on her answering machine which she claimed was from her brother.
Yet, when it became public that Tucker was missing in mid-July 2002, a man named Don Hackley came forward telling the police that Pollard approached him on July 8 and asked him to make a phone call and leave a message claiming to be Marquardt and saying that Tucker was okay.
A copy of that message was played in court Monday and jurors were able to hear Hackley stumble over the message and even hear a pause where it seems someone in the background might be telling him what to say. Hackley testified that it was Pollard in the background telling him what exactly to say.
A number of law enforcement officials testified that Pollard tried to pass the message off to them as proof that her brother did have Tucker.
~much more at link~
http://www.woodwardnews.net/local/local_story_240094328.html
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:48 AM
Lots of links here but they require registration to read
:
http://newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Katherine+Rutan&CATEGORY=PERSON
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:53 AM
While cross examining Ron Cathcart, Pollard’s adoptive father, Defense Attorney Larry T. Jordan asked about Pollard’s childhood.
Cathcart testified that she was a loving child and especially loved animals. He recounted one instance when the young “Kathy” found a nest of mice, which he would have normally killed, “but she protected them.”
Still, there were times that Cathcart and his wife appeared to be concerned that Pollard, 32, would hurt her sons, especially her oldest son Logan Tucker, who she is charged with killing.
Cathcart said he and his wife called the Department of Human Services in Woodward 18 times on July 1, 2002, and spoke with a worker there named Regenia Ives because they were concerned about Tucker’s location after hearing various stories from their daughter as to the six-year-old’s whereabouts.
“We were mainly concerned that he was not where she said he was,” he said.
And while Cathcart testified that he could not recall telling Ives about their fears that Pollard would hurt Tucker, Ives said she did.
“He just kept saying over and over that he felt Miss Rutan would hurt Logan,” she said.
Kathy Reilly Link, who came to know Pollard, then Rutan, in 2002 through a neighbor who was friends with Pollard’s boyfriend Michael Pettey, testified that Pollard admitted that her parents were afraid she would hurt Logan.
Link said Pollard admitted this on July 6, 2002 when she came to Link’s home trying to find someone to call the Cathcarts and tell them Tucker was okay.
In response to Pollard’s request, Link said she told Pollard “it would be hard to do. . . probably couldn’t find anybody.”
But that did not keep Pollard from trying. Two other witnesses testified that Pollard also approached them about phoning her parents to tell them Tucker was okay. Pollard told them each a slightly different story about where the boy really was.
much more at link:
http://www.woodwardnews.net/local/local_story_237220917.html
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 12:55 AM
Witnesses offer dramatic testimony in murder trial
ALVA – From pushing her son away when he asked for hugs to trying to have him arrested, many of the 16 witnesses who testified in the first degree murder trial against Katherine Rutan Pollard Thursday commented about how she rarely, if ever, showed him any motherly affection.
Barely choking back her emotion, Faye Randell, who lived next door to the defendant and her children in Nowata, Okla., in the fall of 2001, described Logan Tucker as “a very love-starved child.”
“He would come up to Katie and say, ‘Mom, I love you,’ and he just wanted her to say it back,” she said, “... [but] she would put her hand toward him and say ‘go play.’”
http://www.woodwardnews.net/local/local_story_236012640.html
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 01:00 AM
From the link I posted above:
In a frantic call to the Tulsa Police Department on April 27, 2002, Pollard herself admitted a desire to hurt her children, specifically Tucker.
Tulsa Officer Jamie Wofford said that she told him that Tucker “made her so mad that she wanted to hit him as hard as she could.”
He said Tucker and his younger brother Justin Daggett were then taken into protective custody, but were returned to Pollard within a few days.
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Christi Lennington Vaughn, the oldest daughter of Melody Lennington, testified that after Tucker’s disappearance on June 23, 2002, she spoke with Pollard, who although claiming Tucker had been taken away by DHS workers, also admitted she felt relieved he was gone.
“She said that it felt like the stress had just melted,” Vaughn said.
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 01:11 AM
From the opening statement given earlier this week:
Ross said part of the answer to Logan's fate rests in a bucket recovered by police at the Woodward home where Rutan was staying at the time of her son's disappearance.
"Inside the bucket was a wad of tape," Ross said. "And on the tape was blood and hair. DNA tests would later determine that blood and hair was Logan Tucker's."
Ross also promised to deliver testimony from FBI agent Ron Parrish, who interviewed Logan's younger brother, Justin Daggett, in the aftermath of his brother's disappearance. Daggett, now 9, told Parrish about the last day he saw his brother.
"Essentially, this is what Justin said: On that morning, Logan was sick," Ross summarized. "His mother had taped his mouth and eyes. He couldn't walk so his mother carried him from the house to the car. She placed him in the backseat. Logan didn't talk. ...
"They then went into the country. He saw his mother carry Logan over a fence with a shovel in hand. She took him into a field, and buried Logan. When she came back, Logan wasn't with her."
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100020825&docId=l:659899809&start=14
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 01:16 AM
Witnesses say woman had varying accounts of boy's whereabouts
http://www.kjrh.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=a5c8a060-05af-43d1-929f-7be3a04f26de
SeriouslySearching
08-30-2007, 01:31 AM
I was just searching the UIDs for Logan then this thread popped up. I search for Logan a lot on different sites...just in case.
It is such a tragic and horrible case. From everything I have read, this mother is responsible...but with the trial ongoing, we will soon find out what more there is to know about her actions surrounding Logan's disappearance.
I don't recall where the article is...but in one it stated that Logan's brother was asked what his mom needed the shovel for (or something to that effect) and he said to bury Logan. If he did say this...it will come out in the trial or on the tape, too.
SewingDeb
08-30-2007, 01:48 AM
I think it has already come out at trial. It was in one of the links I posted.
I think she's toast just from the testimony that has come up already.
SeriouslySearching
08-30-2007, 02:02 AM
I agree. It is so sad no one can find Logan tho and she isn't telling. It is the reason I keep looking.
jantel74
08-30-2007, 10:18 AM
This is so very sad. I do wonder why the grandparents didn't take the boys since "mom" kept asking them too. Of course, it's not their fault that this happened but still. They called DHS a number of times so they were concerned about the children. Poor Logan and his brother. I can't even imagine what either of them went through. I hope that Logan can be found and given a proper burial.
missacorah
08-30-2007, 11:12 AM
For Justin to have the memory of Mummy going to bury Logan, thats just heart wrenching.
SeriouslySearching
08-30-2007, 11:31 AM
OKlahoma's DHS system is like every other system in this nation designed to protect children...they are broken and beyond repair.
First and foremost, Department of Human Services should be placed under the umbrella of LE, IMO. Instead of having to go through LE...they should be a part of it to cut out the time wasted.
Second, they need to ACT on complaints immediately. A child should be taken out of the home as soon as a complaint can be verified. Again, LE can get this done in a timely manner. Judges need to be aware of the dangers facing children in abusive situations and strive not to return a child into that environment.
Third, this child would still be alive today if someone of authority had listened to the Grandparents or others. It is disgusting how many of these children fall through the bureaucratic cracks to their deaths. There have been several in Oklahoma. (ie. Logan, Kelsey, etc.) It is sickening.
Our DHS isn't able to handle the load and complain constantly of not having enough staff. They need to stop whining while kids are dying and revamp the darn system!!
iNTERESTEDWOMAN
08-30-2007, 12:00 PM
For Justin to have the memory of Mummy going to bury Logan, thats just heart wrenching.
I just saw this thread for the first time this morning, and when I read that part about his poor brother, I broke down and cried...the waterworks came when it was reported that when Logan would tell his mother he loved her, she would send him out to play...I mean, what a cold hearted snake. Does she know how lucky she was to have had a child who COULD say I love you? I hate her.
SeriouslySearching
08-30-2007, 12:01 PM
I can't believe they waited so long to charge the snake myself!
mum33004
08-30-2007, 10:47 PM
I just saw this thread for the first time this morning, and when I read that part about his poor brother, I broke down and cried...the waterworks came when it was reported that when Logan would tell his mother he loved her, she would send him out to play...I mean, what a cold hearted snake. Does she know how lucky she was to have had a child who COULD say I love you? I hate her.
I don't why I read these horrific stories. I have a 20 year old daughter & a 3 year old son and I LOVE THEM SO MUCH there are no words to describe it. Sure, they are both ornry at times, but they are kids and they are suppose to be ornry.
This POS will burn in HELL with the rest of the child murders and molesters.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 12:09 AM
http://www.woodwardnews.net/homepage/local_story_241071656.html
Witnesses continue to show Pollard constantly changed story
SeriouslySearching
08-31-2007, 12:28 AM
She told so many lies to so many people. There is no telling what the actual truth is anymore.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 12:33 AM
The only one who knows the truth is her.
Did you see her picture at the link? She looks happy enough.
teedie2
08-31-2007, 02:24 AM
The only one who knows the truth is her.
Did you see her picture at the link? She looks happy enough.
That looks more like a smirk than a smile. I'd like to slap it right off her face.
SeriouslySearching
08-31-2007, 02:41 AM
She is a cold-hearted Witch! She smirks and smiles because she thinks without Logan's body...she can beat this rap. WRONG!
Oklahoma juries are NOT forgiving when it comes to children. I believe there is sufficient evidence for her to receive the worst penalty they can give her. (This is where it gets iffy with our jurors and judges tho...but they will find her guilty)
sherri79
08-31-2007, 10:15 AM
ALVA — Jurors in the murder trial of a Woodward woman accused of killing her son heard testimony Thursday from an investigator in the case as well as audiotaped interviews of the missing boy's brother.
The state rested its case against Katherine Rutan (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Katherine+Rutan&CATEGORY=PERSON), who faces one count of first-degree murder in the death of her son Logan Tucker (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Logan+Tucker&CATEGORY=PERSON).
The 6-year-old was last seen June 23, 2002, and prosecutors say Rutan (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Katherine+Rutan&CATEGORY=PERSON) killed the boy and dumped his body in the Woodward area.
At 6:15 p.m., Judge Ray Dean Linder (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Ray+Dean+Linder&CATEGORY=PERSON) recessed the trial for the day.
Jury instructions and closing arguments in the trial will begin at 9:30 a.m. today.
Despite a number of searches, Logan's body has never been found.
Prosecutors believe, however, they have enough circumstantial evidence to convict Rutan (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Katherine+Rutan&CATEGORY=PERSON).
Defense witnesses
The defense presented four witnesses, including three who thought they had seen Logan after his photograph was broadcast statewide during news broadcasts.
Patricia Meyer (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Patricia+Meyer&CATEGORY=PERSON), Laverne, a Woodward convenience store employee; Amber York (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Amber+York&CATEGORY=PERSON), Bixby, a mother whose children met a young boy at a lake on July 14, 2002; and Jennifer Conn Jones (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Jennifer+Conn+Jones&CATEGORY=PERSON) who lived in Claremore in 2002 and reported seeing Logan at an adult concert hall on July 13, 2002, testified for the defense.
The final witness for the defense was Bart Trentham (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Bart+Trentham&CATEGORY=PERSON), a psychologist in private practice in Tulsa. The defense called him as an expert witness on interview techniques of children.
Trentham (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Bart+Trentham&CATEGORY=PERSON) said he had not listened to any tapes of interviews of this trial, so he could not make a judgment on the evidence in this case.
When asked under cross-examination if the vast majority of children's testimony is not tainted, he said yes. One witness, Detective Teresa Sterling (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Teresa+Sterling&CATEGORY=PERSON) of the Oklahoma City police, was called by the state as a rebuttal witness. Sterling (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Teresa+Sterling&CATEGORY=PERSON) testified it is common to get reports of sightings in missing-person cases that turn out to be homicides. http://www.newsok.com/article/keyword/3114254/
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more @ link.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 11:21 AM
Here's an article we haven't seen:
http://www.newsok.com/article/keyword/3112018/
Rutan's biological mother, Connie Henson, testified that she had received a call from Rutan when her youngest son was less than a year old, asking her to pick up Logan and his younger brother, Justin, because she was afraid she was going to harm them.
Henson said she and her husband drove from Tulsa to the Kansas City, Mo., area to pick up the boys. The Hensons kept Logan and Justin for two or three months before Rutan picked them up.
On another occasion later that year, Rutan and her children came and stayed with the family for about six months.
"Kathie would take off for days at a time,” Henson said. "She finally showed back up with Brady — the guy she finally married — and took them.”
Don Henson testified that Rutan, "asked her mom to come get the boys because she was about to kill them.”
SeriouslySearching
08-31-2007, 12:13 PM
As Marquardt (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Brian+Marquardt&CATEGORY=PERSON) left the witness stand, he asked the judge, "You mean I can stay and watch? I just want to see her get hanged.”
http://www.newsok.com/article/keyword/3112018/
I remind you...this is coming from her own brother! Wow! Now that is some powerful statement. Was the jury present? Even tho they were probably instructed to disregard the comment...you know they caught it just the same.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 12:15 PM
As Marquardt (http://www.newsok.com/keysearch/?er=1&CANONICAL=Brian+Marquardt&CATEGORY=PERSON) left the witness stand, he asked the judge, "You mean I can stay and watch? I just want to see her get hanged.”
http://www.newsok.com/article/keyword/3112018/
I remind you...this is coming from her own brother! Wow! Now that is some powerful statement. Was the jury present? Even tho they were probably instructed to disregard the comment...you know they caught it just the same.
I think they were and there was a sidebar about it. I don't remember what was decided during the sidebar but I'm sure the jury will not forget those words.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 12:16 PM
What's really sad is that 4 days before he disappeared, she was willing to sign away her parental rights. Family services said they needed a few days to make arrangements for them. It's too bad they did not immediately come to get the boys.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 12:25 PM
Boy: Brother was taken away
His 6-year-old brother "went to a dark hole for a while," he testifies.
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070830_1_A14_hHisy76744
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 12:27 PM
From link in the above post:
In another videotaped interview, made in Oklahoma City with a forensic interrogator, Justin wanted to change the subject or leave the room.
When asked why he didn't want to talk about Logan, he said, "I don't want to tell you. You keep hurting my heart."
SeriouslySearching
08-31-2007, 12:29 PM
What's really sad is that 4 days before he disappeared, she was willing to sign away her parental rights. Family services said they needed a few days to make arrangements for them. It's too bad they did not immediately come to get the boys.
There were so many chances to save Logan and his brother. Everyone from the Judges on down thru DHS blew it!
As a grandparent, I would have risked it all to keep the kids away from her. I would have taken them and run as far away as I could possibly get until the court decided she was NOT fit as a parent. Cases like this make me rethink parental abduction cases here, especially with the grandparents involved. Sometimes there truly IS just cause.
Smurf
08-31-2007, 06:16 PM
I haven't read all the links but does it say whether this Loser POS sorry excuse for a human had addiction problems that could have caused her to not want to deal with her kids; or could she just not handle the stress of raising little boys? Obviously she didn't have love in her heart for them.
I can't believe she admitted that she wanted to hurt or kill them and they just kept giving them back to her.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 08:59 PM
I don't understand it either, Smurf. You can't get any clearer than she did but it was still alright for her to raise them.
SSearching, in this case it would have been understandable if someone took the boys and went into hiding. It would have been lifesaving.
Texana
08-31-2007, 10:16 PM
From link in the above post:
In another videotaped interview, made in Oklahoma City with a forensic interrogator, Justin wanted to change the subject or leave the room.
When asked why he didn't want to talk about Logan, he said, "I don't want to tell you. You keep hurting my heart."
This is one of those stories that just keeps breaking my heart even after I think it can't be broken anymore for these children.
This woman needs to get the same judgement she meted out to her son.
Poor baby. He's in a better place now than he ever was with this mother in biological terms only.
SewingDeb
08-31-2007, 10:22 PM
You are so right. He is in a better place where there is real love and acceptance.
SeriouslySearching
09-02-2007, 05:06 PM
GUILTY! Now, hopefully, she will get the DP! Oklahomans have no problem with doling out the DP, but I am not certain her case meets the criteria for it.
http://newsok.com/article/3116322/1188706591
SewingDeb
09-04-2007, 10:53 AM
It sounds like Katherine was indirectly responsible for Monty Clem's death as well.
SeriouslySearching
09-04-2007, 11:00 AM
I have to say you are right, Deb. He worked so diligently and as a result...died from it. Very sad, but he must have been quite a guy to work so many hours and devote all his spare time to Logan. There should be more officers like him. RIP Monty Clem. She is where she deserves to be now.
SewingDeb
09-04-2007, 11:11 AM
He really cared...we do need more officers like him.
Luzer
09-18-2007, 09:27 PM
When will the penalty phase of the trial happen?
Thanks for any input.
concernedperson
09-18-2007, 09:34 PM
This is a heartbreaking story that doesn't have to happen. Do you all realize how many people want to adopt children? So many of them are well educated and financed but the criteria is to keep the children with their parents. Even though these parents have no coping skills, abuse their children and then murder them. It is criminal that our system allows this to happen over and over again .
SewingDeb
09-18-2007, 09:50 PM
I think the criteria needs changing too, Concerned. Family unification is not so wonderful for the children in some families.
Sentencing is October 9th:
http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=070901_1_A17_cpWom02475
Rutan, also known as Katherine Pollard, was returned to the Woodward County Jail to await sentencing on Oct. 9.
SeriouslySearching
11-12-2007, 07:33 PM
WOODWARD, Okla. (AP) -- His mother has been tried and convicted of his death. But for Woodward County Sheriff Les Morton and his department, the case of a little boy missing for more than five years is still open.
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=139582
SeriouslySearching
11-12-2007, 07:34 PM
WOODWARD, Okla. (AP) -- His mother has been tried and convicted of his death. But for Woodward County Sheriff Les Morton and his department, the case of a little boy missing for more than five years is still open.
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=139582
pedinurse
11-12-2007, 09:28 PM
I am so sick of people..
Me too. I just hate people in general. They are DUMB!! And mean to their offspring!
CaliKid
11-13-2007, 01:30 AM
Me three. The escalation of crimes against women and children boggles my mind and makes me so fearful for my own kids.
SeriouslySearching
02-01-2008, 08:26 PM
Psychic volunteering to help find missing boy
When Woodward County Sheriff Les Morton said he was open to any suggestions for finding the boy's remains, a group of local citizens came together to bring psychic Jeff Baker to the panhandle town.
Baker recently was involved in the search for missing IRS agent Veronica Ruiz in California. He's set to visit the Woodward area next week.
Morton says no county funds are being used to pay for the psychic's visit.
http://www.fox23.com/news/state/story.aspx?content_id=e2ff495c-727b-4e32-84d8-d5735ff7cff8
AmandaBrown23
02-01-2008, 08:42 PM
I had not heard this story until today and its very heartbreaking. I hope they find his body so he can have a proper burial which he deserves. Poor little boy.
Bobbisangel
02-02-2008, 07:32 AM
In one of the news storys the mother is grinning as she walks into court! Did she realize that she wasn't taking part in a movie...but a trial for the murder of her little boy! If she was to be sentenced on Oct 9th then she has already been sentenced hasn't she? I doubt that they would wait months and months before sentencing her.
Good old DHS...at the trial to testify but couldn't take those boys out of the home to save little Logan's life. Always a day late and a dollar short...that is CPS. Keep the family together at all costs even if the cost is a child's life. They really disgust me.
That little brother remembers exactly what happened. He has to live with that for the rest of his life. I wonder if he was ever afraid that mom would do the same to him? Poor little guy. Someday he will hate her guts and realize how lucky he is to be alive. I wonder what happened on that last day when she borrowed the shovel and plastic. Did Logan look at her the wrong way?
I hope they gave her LWOP...at least.
deanws
02-02-2008, 10:42 AM
I hope they gave her LWOP...at least.
I'd prefer death myself.
:behindbar
SewingDeb
02-02-2008, 10:54 AM
Bobbi,
Mother Of Missing Boy Sentenced To Life In Prison
AP - 10/9/2007 2:02 PM - Updated 10/9/2007 11:05 PM
ALVA, Okla. (AP) -- A woman convicted of killing her 6-year-old son who has not been seen in five years was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison without parole.
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=137596
deanws
02-02-2008, 12:08 PM
Bobbi,
Mother Of Missing Boy Sentenced To Life In Prison
AP - 10/9/2007 2:02 PM - Updated 10/9/2007 11:05 PM
ALVA, Okla. (AP) -- A woman convicted of killing her 6-year-old son who has not been seen in five years was sentenced Tuesday to life in prison without parole.
http://www.kotv.com/news/local/story/?id=137596Not good enough! She deserves to die!!!
:behindbar
SeriouslySearching
02-12-2008, 09:35 PM
WOODWARD, Okla. -- The assistance of a self-proclaimed psychic from Denver has not helped Woodward County investigators find the body of a boy who has been missing since 2002.
http://www.koco.com/news/15283435/detail.html
SewingDeb
02-13-2008, 04:23 PM
SS, it sounds like the police did not check the 6 sites the psychic led them to because they had already been searched.
I've heard of several cases where a body was found in an area that had already been searched in the past.
Indiana at Heart
02-14-2008, 08:16 AM
I would recheck those 6 sites!!!!
gaia227
02-14-2008, 11:18 AM
These crimes are sickening because as always, there are SO MANY warning signs. The woman actually said she wanted to kill her children if she could get away with it. She called the police on herself expressing her fear of wanting to hurt Tucker and they only get taken away for a few day? If I truly felt like my grandchildren were in a life or death situation I would do more than worry about it I would fight for them. Logan's death was 100% preventable as most of the deaths in these kinds of situations are. You have children showing up to school black and blue, digging through trashcans for food, telling teachers 'mommy beat me' and still nothing gets done. The parents might get a vist from child services but most of the time they just don't answer the door and so the case is closed. I don't know how many times I have heard that one.
It makes me so angry. How is it that football players are making millions of dollars but yet we cannot allot a proper amount of money so these public services can actually perform their duties and successfully protect children? It is all about money. Children are returned again and again to abusive, dangerous situations because there is not enough money for the state to take care of them so they just return them back into the hands of their abusers. It takes a girl like Nixmary Brown here in NYC who was routinely tortured, weighted 30lbs at eight years old and finally was beaten to death by her parents for any attention to be drawn to this situation but within a few months that attention has waned and everything is back to normal - normal being children falling through the cracks and being returned back to the situation they were taken away from, case workers closing cases because the parents won't answer the door when they come by. This is unacceptable! I cannot believe it is not more of an issue in this country.
Sorry for ranting but this just makes me so angry. THIS DIDN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN.
It kills me also, the sad thing is that it happens every day!!! I dont understand the system at all!!!
Mickie Mouse
08-22-2008, 09:58 PM
http://www.solvesmart.com/Logan/LoganTucker.jpg
Mickie Mouse
08-22-2008, 10:00 PM
Sheriff Les Morton indicted:
http://www.woodwardnews.net/homepage/local_story_087235816.html
Ilenser
10-12-2008, 05:13 PM
Thamk you SewingDeb for the case info and links about Katherine Rutan. Wow that is soooo strange how that case and Caylee's are much alike. I hope it doesn't take five years to finsh Caylee's.
prd2bokie
11-06-2008, 11:46 AM
I don't think it will take that long for Caylee's case. I grew up in the town where this happened and I think they probably didn't have the resources to be able to go forward as soon as they wanted to. Who knows though, I could be completely wrong. I just know that it's not a high murder area. We have had a few but they are always years apart. We did have a fairly high profile case back in the 1970's. That was the Thrasher murders. That was their last name.
SeriouslySearching
11-06-2008, 12:07 PM
I agree. Caylee's case has the latest in forensics, the FBI, and so many other things which have come together to be able to solve it that Logan's case did not have.
Every time I see that photo, I want to hug him. He looks like he had a runny nose when it was taken and it looks like the school photographer was trying hard to draw out a smile there. He had a bashful quality. Such a sweet innocent about him. :(
I am so glad his mother is going to rot in jail. I cannot fathom how she continued to thrive so long without people knowing the real POS she is.
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