Who is Kwan?

[i.b.nora]

In this week's New York Magazine, in an article by one of the Falls bartenders, he talks about another Falls bouncer, named Kwan.

Last Call (http://www.nymetro.com/news/intelligencer/16478/)

"I met Darryl Littlejohn three months ago, when he was hired as a doorman. But I didn’t know him by that name; I knew him only as “B.” I was outside grabbing a quick smoke, sparking up some conversation with Kwan, our regular bouncer, who introduced us. I asked the obvious question: What does B stand for?

“Brother,” Kwan replied, smiling. “He’s my brother.” Kwan was six-four and built; B was five-seven but broad-shouldered, with a back that engulfed his body like a turtle’s shell. He wore clear-lensed wraparound glasses and military garb, which added to his intimidating presence. Obviously not related by blood, they claimed to be partners: federal marshals who hunted fugitives by day and moonlighted together at night. The two of them would stroll into work sporting what we all thought were their clothes from the day job: fatigues tucked into combat boots, bulletproof vests, handcuffs dangling from their belts, and U.S. marshal caps and T-shirts. They even had shiny gold badges."

"It wasn’t until Wednesday that St. Guillen’s credit card was traced to the Falls. The following Saturday, I was working with B again. Kwan wasn’t at his shift; he had been on vacation since before St. Guillen was murdered."

"It was like a Joe Frazier right hook. When the pain faded, I just felt like a patsy. Someone had slipped a magical moron pill into my soup. I was conned, we all were, by Kwan—who never came back from his vacation—and his “brother,” Darryl Littlejohn."

So, who is this guy Kwan and where is he?

[dark_shadows]

"I met Darryl Littlejohn three months ago, when he was hired as a doorman. But I didn’t know him by that name; I knew him only as “B.” I was outside grabbing a quick smoke, sparking up some conversation with Kwan, our regular bouncer, who introduced us. I asked the obvious question: What does B stand for?

“Brother,” Kwan replied, smiling. “He’s my brother.” Hello i.b.nora,
All day long when I am at work we hear inmates call each other "B",bro,bratha,bra,ect.
They are not related,it is used as slang for associates,partners in crime,gangbanging "brothers" and others who feel closer to their street and prison buddies than they do their own family.
Thank-you for the article.

[Jean]

Did Kwan ever return from vacation, and I wonder if the police have talked to him? Kwan and Littlejohn sound like they have quite a partnership going on--maybe Kwan was involved in Imette's murder too. Just speculating.

Thanks for posting the article I.B. I haven't read anything about Kwan in any of the newspaper stories.

[i.b.nora]

They are not related,it is used as slang for associates,partners in crime,gangbanging "brothers" and others who feel closer to their street and prison buddies than they do their own family.

Yes, I am aware of the use of the term "bro" etc. and it is quite clear in the article that the writer did not think they were blood relatives.

The reason I found the article especially interesting is because various news reports have said that the authorities think another person might be involved. This is the first evidence I have seen that a second person might very well be involved.

I would like to see 'Kwan' located, questioned, and put in a lineup for those other rapes.

[dark_shadows]

Maybe no connection,but I found this old article about a con named Kwan.Just because he lived in another state years ago does not mean that he did not pick up and move to NYC.Wonder if he ever did time with Littlejohn.

Just a thought..
Kwan article (http://www.citypages.com/databank/25/1226/article12161.asp)

It is long but read past the boxing crap and read about the prison stays and the crimes.Robbery,car theft,drugs,assaults and more.




In the story;He also worked as a shelter employee, a bouncer.
I am sure that he would stay in the same line of work as he did in Mi.He is a street surviver so he would have no problem living in a different state.

[dark_shadows]

Yes, I am aware of the use of the term "bro" etc. and it is quite clear in the article that the writer did not think they were blood relatives.

The reason I found the article especially interesting is because various news reports have said that the authorities think another person might be involved. This is the first evidence I have seen that a second person might very well be involved.

I would like to see 'Kwan' located, questioned, and put in a lineup for those other rapes.Hi i.b.nora,
Once again thank-you for the article:).I just wanted to point out that we hear those words day in and day out.

[Insomniac]

Maybe no connection,but I found this old article about a con named Kwan.Just because he lived in another state years ago does not mean that he did not pick up and move to NYC.Wonder if he ever did time with Littlejohn.

Just a thought..
Kwan article (http://www.citypages.com/databank/25/1226/article12161.asp)

It is long but read past the boxing crap and read about the prison stays and the crimes.Robbery,car theft,drugs,assaults and more.




In the story;He also worked as a shelter employee, a bouncer.
I am sure that he would stay in the same line of work as he did in Mi.He is a street surviver so he would have no problem living in a different state. The boxer doesn't appear in NYS DOCs

[dark_shadows]

The boxer doesn't appear in NYS DOCsHi Insomniac,
The article is from 2002.
Who knows if Littlejohn was incarcerated in Mi. under a different name.Or in another facility in another state because people do get shipped to other states while incarcerated.We have inmates in various facilitiesall over the U.S. due to overcrowding.
If he did move to NYC and I am saying if,he probably was never arrested for anything there.
He may not be boxing anymore either.
Thank-you very much for the post.

[Insomniac]

Hi Insomniac,
The article is from 2002.
If he did move to NYC and I am saying if,he probably was never arrested for anything there.
He may not be boxing anymore either.Hi DS,
Sorry if I left out half of my thoughts here. I am of the mind that Kwan and LJ knew each other from prison (even with the little information given), and that it doesn't seem the boxer did any time in NY. Now, that doesn't entirely rule out the boxer, and it was a good find, but, something about the use of "B" for brother makes me think they did time together. I just wonder how much Kwan or DJ would've told each other about their background (if Kwan was also in prison)if they didn't know each other prior to the falls. I mean both were allegedly parading around in US marshall/fugative outfits and telling stories of their conquests and adventures. It's possible both were doing the bounty work and met there, but, it seems unlikely that "B" would be a term adopted from that line of work.

It's also a bit mysterious that Kwan went on some type of never-ending "vacation". Would a responsible person, allegedly working in fugative recovery by day just blow off his employer? Doesn't seem consistent.

I have a feeling (if Chris Faherty isn't embellishing too much in this story), that the two knew each other from prison, had there prison lingo going, both have a folie a deux in terms of being in law enforcement, and they're partners in crime. It seems that LE has been speculating about an accomplice from day 1.

[willowhorse]

Where is Kwan? This information sounds like it may be very important to this case. Also, it may explain why somethings do not make sense in this case. Kwan and DJ seem like they are peas in a pod so it is critical that the NYPD interview Kwan!

[shadowraiths]

http://boards.courttv.com/showthread.php?threadid=259002

[txsvicki]

This bartender Faherty tells a different story than Dorian. Faherty places Imette as not totally being the last customer at 3:45, sitting up and not falling over drunk, not arguing or even talking to anyone. Faherty places himself in the basement when Imette would have been asked to leave at closing time at 4am and escorted out. This sounds as if it is the normal way things are done. I'm not sure about the comment of his thinking it strange to see '' a dainty little girl sitting there all alone" though. I also wonder what else he isn't saying, what he saw when he left. Who was still there and where.

[panthera]

Maybe no connection,but I found this old article about a con named Kwan.Just because he lived in another state years ago does not mean that he did not pick up and move to NYC.Wonder if he ever did time with Littlejohn.

Just a thought..
Kwan article (http://www.citypages.com/databank/25/1226/article12161.asp)

It is long but read past the boxing crap and read about the prison stays and the crimes.Robbery,car theft,drugs,assaults and more.




In the story;He also worked as a shelter employee, a bouncer.
I am sure that he would stay in the same line of work as he did in Mi.He is a street surviver so he would have no problem living in a different state.
The Kwan in the article is much shorter than the 6'4" description of Kwan from the Falls.

[Pharlap]

Oh, this is great, 2 ex cons working at the same bar.....:banghead:

I would think the owner of the bar is also in BIG trouble.....:waitasec:

[panthera]

Oh, this is great, 2 ex cons working at the same bar.....:banghead:

I would think the owner of the bar is also in BIG trouble.....:waitasec:
Well, maybe three ex-cons: Littlejohn, (plea bargain/probation) Catella and whoever "Kwan" is besides being Littlejohn's "bro". Danny Dorrian should have his doors closed and hope Imette's family files a lawsuit seeking millions.

[i.b.nora]

I wonder if the police have had Chris Faherty, the writer of the New York magazine article, listen to the 911 call?

[Insomniac]

I wonder if the police have had Chris Faherty, the writer of the New York magazine article, listen to the 911 call?Probably. It seems Kwan, as described by CF, would be the one to call 911. Funny how DL's lawyer-ODonnell said with some assurance that it wasn't DL, kind of an interesting statement since he claims he hasn't heard or seen any of the evidence in this case. That statement seemed more like a slip then it did a lawyer trying to defend his client. It's almost like Mr ODonnell was made aware that the caller isn't his client. It might stand to reason that the police have been asking DL about an accomplice, and maybe played the tape for him. Also noted, is the strange visit from immigration. I can't imagine why they would be involved with him, he's an American citizen, nor why they'd ask him about Imette's murder. Could be this Kwan is an immigrant or illegal.

Someone who has gone on an "extended vacation" would seem like the perfect person to make a call, and perhaps play cat and mouse with the police. He's at the best vantage point for this.

[ThoughtFox]

May I ask a stupid question - and I admit I'm out of the loop here, but is "Kwan" a real name? :waitasec: I immediately thought of Jerry McGuire:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0116695/quotes

Quotes from Jerry McGuire:

Rod Tidwell: Quit using that word. "Quan", that's my word!

Rod Tidwell: You're my ambassador of quan, man.

[i.b.nora]

Tonight on Rita Cosby's show, Kevin O'Donnell attorney for Littlejohn said that Kwan went to Chicago and that Littlejohn was supposed to go with him but there wasn't enough room in the car.
O'Donnell would not reveal Kwan's real name.

[Gracelin]

Tonight on Rita Cosby's show, Kevin O'Donnell attorney for Littlejohn said that Kwan went to Chicago and that Littlejohn was supposed to go with him but there wasn't enough room in the car.
O'Donnell would not reveal Kwan's real name.
:doh: He stayed and got arrested cause he couldn't fit in the car???

[docwho3]

:doh: He stayed and got arrested cause he couldn't fit in the car???Maybe the car was full of torture equipment or something?

[shadowraiths]

Maybe the car was full of torture equipment or something?Splorf!

[strach304]

I'm sure whoever this Kwan dude is is another of DL's partners in crime but nothing to do with Imette's murder, that would be unusual. MY guess going from NYC to Chicago is the drug running angle or other nefarious activities. If he hadn't been left in NYC then he wouldn't have been there to kill Imette, true but I doubt he had help.

[Insomniac]

I'm sure whoever this Kwan dude is is another of DL's partners in crime but nothing to do with Imette's murder, that would be unusual. MY guess going from NYC to Chicago is the drug running angle or other nefarious activities. If he hadn't been left in NYC then he wouldn't have been there to kill Imette, true but I doubt he had help.Just because he told someone he was in Chicago doesn't mean that he was. It's also not unheard for more than one person to be involved in a crime like this.

[strach304]

Just because he told someone he was in Chicago doesn't mean that he was. It's also not unheard for more than one person to be involved in a crime like this.

DL's lawyer said he was in Chicago I don't know if he is or not but I'm sure NYCPD is gonna find out. The lawyer won't say what his real name is but I'm sure NYCPD know that too so far this is just what's being reported in the media. I didn't mean it was unusual for more than one to commit this type of crime, I meant I thought it would be unusual for DL but even then not impossible imo. From the reports that were given today it sounds like they still have a lot of evidence to process so I don't think LE is going to be ruling out an accomplice anytime soon and I hope they will be able to determine the murder scene in time.

[panthera]

This guy, Kwan, got Littlejohn the job at The Falls. According to Chris Faherty, the two of them would come to work dressed in their Fed. Marshal "outfits" with bulletproof vests, guns and badges. They called each other "brother" (from prison?). They both told everyone at the bar about their capture of criminals as Marshals. So, who is closer to Littlejohn than Kwan, yet he "disappears" at the same time Imette is murdered. Just because the story from O'Donnell is that he left for Chicago the day before the murder, etc. doesn't mean it's true. He could have left 24 hours later...after Imette was killed, by him. (jmo)

[Insomniac]

This guy, Kwan, got Littlejohn the job at The Falls. According to Chris Faherty, the two of them would come to work dressed in their Fed. Marshal "outfits" with bulletproof vests, guns and badges. They called each other "brother" (from prison?). They both told everyone at the bar about their capture of criminals as Marshals. So, who is closer to Littlejohn than Kwan, yet he "disappears" at the same time Imette is murdered. Just because the story from O'Donnell is that he left for Chicago the day before the murder, etc. doesn't mean it's true. He could have left 24 hours later...after Imette was killed, by him. (jmo)He could've never gone to Chicago, and just because he tells Kevin O that he's in Chicago doesn't make it a fact either. I happen to agree, leaving the day before a murder is awfully suspect.

[panthera]

He could've never gone to Chicago, and just because he tells Kevin O that he's in Chicago doesn't make it a fact either. I happen to agree, leaving the day before a murder is awfully suspect.Another thing about this conversation O'Donnell allegedly had with Mr. Kwan - he's supposed to be in Chicago, and no one at The Falls has explained if he just left or had given a notice he was leaving, etc...and O'Donnell says Kwan has nothing to do with the murder, he's an innocent party to all this, and won't divulge his complete name. Confirms my thoughts that he's an accomplice with Darryl Littlejohn.

[Insomniac]

Another thing about this conversation O'Donnell allegedly had with Mr. Kwan - he's supposed to be in Chicago, and no one at The Falls has explained if he just left or had given a notice he was leaving, etc...and O'Donnell says Kwan has nothing to do with the murder, he's an innocent party to all this, and won't divulge his complete name. Confirms my thoughts that he's an accomplice with Darryl Littlejohn.I also heard him say, that Kwan wasn't involved, because LJ wasn't involved. I also find it curious he's not releasing his real name, which indicates it's either an alias or a nickname, and only a few know his real name. That then leads me to believe that he's been involved in some type of criminal activity in the past. Wonder why LE has said almost nothing about this Kwan?

[panthera]

I also heard him say, that Kwan wasn't involved, because LJ wasn't involved. I also find it curious he's not releasing his real name, which indicates it's either an alias or a nickname, and only a few know his real name. That then leads me to believe that he's been involved in some type of criminal activity in the past. Wonder why LE has said almost nothing about this Kwan?
That's what I can't figure out either. The crime itself looks like more than one person is involved; even the fur that was found on the tape was from two different coats. So far, the evidence that has led to DL has been "moveable" (tape, ties) but nothing yet revealed as evidence placing her in his house. Crime could have been committed at Kwan's house or some other place associated with Kwan. Just think it's strange no one is implicating this guy except us!