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Richard
06-04-2006, 08:18 AM
Mabel Crumback
Missing since May 28, 1950 from Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
Classification: Missing

Vital Statistics
Date Of Birth: 1931
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'1"
Distinguishing Characteristics: Dark hair and a fair complexion.
Clothing: A red and black plaid shirt, a navy blue pleated skirt, black suede pumps, but no hat or coat.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Crumback was last seen at her home in Toronto on May 28, 1950. The last person to see the girl was Jim Bryan, who told police he left the home at 12:30 a.m. Sunday. When he returned the next day for dinner, she was missing. Her younger brother, Garry said he woke up Sunday morning to find his sister missing. He told his neighbours who told the police. According to Gary, he woke at about 2 a.m. to hear what he thought was the dog barking and the sounds of Mabel's voice mixed in with the voices of men.

There were 2 doors to the house, Willard Avenue and a door facing towards St. John Road. The Willard Avenue door was found unlocked and the St. John Road door was also unlocked but open. Neighbours walking past the Crumback home at about 2 a.m. said they heard some loud noises coming from the residence. The lights in Mabel's room and the kitchen were on and the side door was open.

An investigation would reveal that Mabel's bed had been slept in that night. Crumback's parents had been to Detroit, USA over the weekend.

The girl's father told police the girl didn't have any money or a key to the house. Mabel's purse was found in her room with her money still in it.

Her pyjama bottoms were found neatly folded under her pillow but her pyjama top was never found.

Mabel was employed in the office of the Eastern Steel Co. She was religious and attended the St. John's Baptist Church. At church she sang in the choir and was active in the church's social functions.

Investigators
If you have any information concerning this case, please contact: Toronto Police Service 416-808-2222

Source:
The Doe Network: Case File 906DFON

Link:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/906dfon.html

Richard
04-28-2007, 03:29 PM
This cold case is still unsolved 57 years after Mabel's mysterious disappearance. Does anyone have any other information or old news reports?

Richard
12-03-2007, 11:43 AM
bumping case up...

Richard
03-27-2010, 10:15 PM
In two months this case will be 60 years old. Anybody from Ontario or Detroit know anything about it?

Updated Link:

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/906dfon.html (http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/906dfon.html)

CrimeSolver
03-28-2010, 12:16 PM
Sorry, don't know a thing about it, but maybe I'll research it in the newspaper archives one of these days.
This must be the house, on the southeast corner of St. Johns Rd. and Willard Ave.:
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h104/DB_photos/Noname-14.jpg

Jubble
04-05-2010, 01:20 PM
Here's an interesting article from The Montreal Gazette June 13, 1950:
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1946&dat=19500613&id=xS8rAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ZZkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=7179,6092866


A girl who may be Mabel Crumback, missing Toronto area bookeeper, was seen today in this district..

{snip}

Police in Western Ontario have been watching for Miss Crumback since Friday night, when the wife of a tourist-camp operator reported seeing a girl resembling her at Ancaster, near Hamilton. The woman, Mrs. Wesley Jenne said a girl stopped at her camp for an hour with a man with a harelip. The girl told her the man was holding her prisoner and had forced her to bleach her dark hair blonde.

Jubble
04-05-2010, 01:35 PM
And the article from the previous day:

The Montreal Gazette June 12 1950 http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=xC8rAAAAIBAJ&sjid=ZZkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3774,5921341&hl=en


A frightened girl calling herself Mabel Crumback turned up at a tourist camp near here and told a strange story of being held prisoner by a man who forced her to dye her dark hair blonde...

Jubble
04-05-2010, 01:37 PM
Ottawa Citizen - June 9, 1952
http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=VAMxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=q98FAAAAIBAJ&dq=mabel%20crumback&pg=7375%2C1498655

Jubble
04-05-2010, 02:48 PM
Ottawa Citizen - May 1, 1953 Talking Horse Provides New Hope (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=qEw0AAAAIBAJ&sjid=GisJAAAAIBAJ&pg=5110,135477&dq=mabel+crumback&hl=en)

Ottawa Citizen - February 14, 1956 Diggers Fail to Find Body (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=BvkxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=9OMFAAAAIBAJ&dq=mabel%20crumback&pg=1748%2C3012649)

This article from the Toronto Star (Aug 16, 2004) (http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/thestar/access/680034641.html?dids=680034641:680034641&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Aug+16%2C+2004&author=Gabe+Gonda&pub=Toronto+Star&desc=Could+remains+be+choirgirl+Mabel%3F%3B+19-year-old+went+missing+from+her+home+54+years+ago+Human+ skull+found+in+Swansea+under+town+hall&pqatl=google) says that there was a note left beside the kitchen sink that read "Jimmy come on in." I don't have access to the full article, but it's talking about a skull that was found that later turned out to be an aboriginal man, not related to Mabel's case.

CastlesBurning
11-02-2011, 01:16 PM
Her pyjama bottoms were found neatly folded under her pillow but her pyjama top was never found.

I find this really odd. I can understand someone taking Mabel and forcing her to undress; but if her pj pants were neatly folded, that would imply she had removed them herself, in a leisurely unthreatened fashion. It would suggest that she was suddenly interrupted perhaps while changing clothes in the morning, but then, the rest of the article suggests that Mabel disappeared somewhere during the night. Hmm.


The girl's father told police the girl didn't have any money or a key to the house. Mabel's purse was found in her room with her money still in it.

This also stood out for me. If Dad said she didn't have any money, why would the next line say she had a purse with money in it? Perhaps he actually meant that Mabel didn't have any significant amount of money, i.e. enough to run away with or that someone would want to steal. But then, the article goes on to state that Mabel was employed. So presumably she was earning a salary which she was able save as needed. Again, hmm.

KarlK
11-16-2011, 02:18 AM
A talking horse?

Robin Hood
11-16-2011, 07:02 AM
:rolleyes:
A talking horse?

Veidt
12-01-2012, 08:13 PM
I find this really odd. I can understand someone taking Mabel and forcing her to undress; but if her pj pants were neatly folded, that would imply she had removed them herself, in a leisurely unthreatened fashion. It would suggest that she was suddenly interrupted perhaps while changing clothes in the morning, but then, the rest of the article suggests that Mabel disappeared somewhere during the night. Hmm.


This also stood out for me. If Dad said she didn't have any money, why would the next line say she had a purse with money in it? Perhaps he actually meant that Mabel didn't have any significant amount of money, i.e. enough to run away with or that someone would want to steal. But then, the article goes on to state that Mabel was employed. So presumably she was earning a salary which she was able save as needed. Again, hmm.

I assume he meant a significant amount of money. It sounds very strange to me that a young person who had a job would have no money, at least a few cents. He may have meant money that someone could feasibly use to get away or that another person may be after. There could have been a house rule where she had to hand over her money to her parents or they could know that she had no available money somehow (a passing remark about being broke for that month or not having gone to the bank). The money in her purse could have been just spare change.

I find her lack of a house key more puzzling.

This case really reminds me of the case of Elizabeth Smart. She disappeared from her own home, nothing else was taken, even the door things sounded vaguely similar. What struck a chord was that article about her asking a woman for help and claiming that she was abducted and forced to dye her hair. The article mentions that the woman confirmed it was Mabel after being shown a picture but her mother says that it wasn't like her to be smoking and looking drunk or drugged. However, it sounds plausible to me if her captor intentionally drugged her, in Elizabeth Smart's case her abductor forced her to drink and have her cigarettes.

amandab
12-07-2012, 05:05 PM
I find this really odd. I can understand someone taking Mabel and forcing her to undress; but if her pj pants were neatly folded, that would imply she had removed them herself, in a leisurely unthreatened fashion. It would suggest that she was suddenly interrupted perhaps while changing clothes in the morning, but then, the rest of the article suggests that Mabel disappeared somewhere during the night. Hmm.


I interpreted this differently......as Mabel being surprised while in the process of putting *on* her pajamas. Perhaps by someone laying in wait for her in a closet? I'd be curious to know if a partial change of clothes was also found in her room?

Though honestly, a partial change of clothes being found in a typical teenage girls room wouldn't be an indication of anything except that a teenage girl lived there. :/

amandab
12-07-2012, 05:14 PM
Paraphrased from: http://virtual.brantfordexpositor.ca/doc/Brantford-Expositor/vibrant-may2012/2012052301/27.html#26

Her parents never gave up hope that Mabel was alive. Though they died in 1983 and 1984, they'd named Mabel as an heir in their wills some 30 years after her disappearance.

amandab
12-07-2012, 05:18 PM
I wonder whatever became of her brother Gary? Not that I suspect he's involved, but am curious.....

Veidt
03-07-2013, 03:40 PM
I wonder whatever became of her brother Gary? Not that I suspect he's involved, but am curious.....

I found him in what seems to be a Canadian phonebook. At least I think it's him or maybe a younger relative; he's in the same area and is the only person with that name that I can find in Canada. I can PM you the link.

I've been thinking about this case. Does anyone know if the lead about the girl in the tourist camp was ever followed? Because of her mother's dismissal that her daughter wouldn't look drugged, they may have discarded it but it doesn't sound too far off to me. Like I said, it reminds me of the case of Elizabeth Smart -- I don't think they're connected but I'm trying to say is that it would not be impossible for an abductor to drug the person he had kidnapped. :twocents: Also, what is a tourist camp? Is it like a camp site? If so, I wonder if they were staying there and if there was any record of an alias or something.

I have been thinking about the clothes on her bed. I think a possible scenario could be: Mabel is waiting for friends or hear noises, either way, she decides to go talk to the "visitors". She swaps her pyjama bottoms with jeans, but doesn't bother with the pyjama top because of time or because it doesn't look so weird, maybe even throws on a coat on top of it.

youshouldveknown
03-09-2013, 12:55 AM
This also stood out for me. If Dad said she didn't have any money, why would the next line say she had a purse with money in it? Perhaps he actually meant that Mabel didn't have any significant amount of money, i.e. enough to run away with or that someone would want to steal. But then, the article goes on to state that Mabel was employed. So presumably she was earning a salary which she was able save as needed. Again, hmm.



I also found the wording odd, but took it to mean, perhaps, that Mabel didn't have any money BECAUSE she left her purse with her money in it at home.

dotr
02-05-2014, 01:42 PM
A talking horse?

Yes!, one with a long Maine!

Richard
02-06-2014, 01:07 PM
The following is taken from an official Ontario Missing Person website. There is a photo of Mabel included.
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Name : CRUMBACK, Mabel
Case : ON-MF-1950-05-01093

Date Of Disappearance : 28 May 1950
Location Of Disappearance : Toronto, Ontario
Age At Disappearance : 19 years
Height (estimate) : 155 cm (5'1")
Weight (estimate) : Unknown
Hair Colour : Other
- dark hair
Eye Colour : Unknown
Gender : Female
Race : Caucasian


Dental Information : Unknown

Medical Information : Unknown

Notable Identifiers : Complexion - fair


Clothing/Jewelry : Shirt - red and black plaid shirt
Skirt - navy blue pleated skirt
Shoes - black suede pumps

Other Personal Items : Unknown


Additional Information : The last known sighting of Mabel was at her home at 12:30 a.m. on May 28, 1950. Gary, Mabel's brother, had woken up at about 2:00 a.m. to the sound of his barking dog and the voices of Mabel and some men. When Gary checked for his sister on Sunday morning, he found that she was missing.

During their investigation, police spoke with neighbours who were walking past the Crumback home around 2:00 a.m. These witnesses reported hearing loud noises coming from the house. The lights were on both in Mabel's room and in the kitchen. The side door was open.

According to police, the Crumback home had two entrances - one facing Willard Avenue and the second facing St. John Road. While both doors were unlocked, the door facing St. John Road was left open.

Police discovered Mabel's purse in her room containing money. There was also evidence that Mabel's bed had been slept in. Her pajama bottoms were folded neatly under her pillow. Her pajama top has never been located.

At the time of her disappearance, Mabel was employed by the Eastern Steel Co. She was religious and attended the St. John's Baptist Church. She sang in the church choir and was active in the social functions at the church.


Contact : Toronto Police Service
416-808-2222
OR
Crime Stoppers 1-800-222-TIPS (8477)


Source Links : Doe Network Case File 906DFON

Source:
Ontario's Missing Adult Registry

LINK:

http://www.missingadults.ca/viewMAcase.php?case=ON-MF-1950-05-01093&DateOfDiscoveryStart=&DateOfDiscoveryEnd=rldnhvqwgyhwqo&&StartAt=0&EndAt=264&CurCase=1

Richard
02-06-2014, 01:31 PM
Canadian Press Article
Printed in the Evening Citizen, Ottowa, Canada
10 June 1952

Mother Sure Long Lost Daughter Can Be Found

Montreal - A grey-haired Ontario mother appealed to Montreal police yesterday to help her find a daughter she is convinced was kidnapped two years ago.

Mrs. Sheldon Crumback of Guelph, Ont., and formerly of Toronto, said she came to Montreal because she believes the police department's Missing Persons Bureau can help her.

The missing girl is Mabel Crumback, who now would be 21. At the time of her disappearance, she was employed as a bookkeeper by a Toronto company.

"I am certain Mabel is alive and is being held against her will," said Mrs. Crumback. "There are only two other alternatives, one that she is dead and the other that she is suffering from amnesia. I cannot believe she ran away."

She said Mabel weighed 100 Pounds, has black wavy hair, dark brown eyes and a mole under the right eye.

Vanished in Toronto

Mrs. Crumback told police that when Mabel disappeared they were living at 661 Willard Avenue, York Township, Toronto. Their present address is 48 Tiffany Street West, Guelph.

Mabel was in the six-room cottage with her 8-year-old brother Gary. The parents were attending a wedding in Detroit that day, May 28, 1950.

A neighbor said he heard loud talking but thought Mabel was being reprimanded by her parents. Little Gary said he heard thumping on the floor and then on the cellar stairs.

A search of Mabel's room showed she took little extra clothing. There were no signs of violence.

Mrs. Crumback said mabel was to have been married in 1951 and had few male friends. Her interests included music and sports.

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Another article of 10 June 1952
Note spelling is as it appeared in the paper

Police Doubtful

Toronto - York Township police said last night that it is unlikely that Montreal police have any clues to offer in finding Mabel Crumbach, who disappeared from here two years ago.

Police officials said it is customary for police departments to notify one another when new leads occur in any case. "We have received no word from Montreal about this case."

Mrs. Sheldon Crumbach now a resident of Guelph, Ont.,said she thinks the Montreal police's missing persons department can help find her daughter Mabel, who disappeared Mayh 28, 1950, at the age of 19 while her parents were attending a wedding in Detroit.

York Township police said at the time there was no evidence she had been taken from her home by violence. Yesterday they admitted the possibility that she could still be alive.

~n/t~
02-06-2014, 01:56 PM
I wonder why her mom thought Mabel would be in Montreal.

This is the only unidentified remains I could find for Montreal. Mabel would be in her 80's now if still alive.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/206ufqc.html

~n/t~
02-06-2014, 02:09 PM
http://www.missingadults.ca/caseimages/01093_Image_L.jpg

http://www.missing-u.ca/Images/P20050011_03.jpghttp://www.missing-u.ca/UIDetail.aspx?PersonID=26

dotr
02-06-2014, 04:26 PM
Any chance this uid could be a possibility?

http://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Files/Law-Enforcement/Investigator/Unidentified-Remains

" Case number: 193
Incident location: 20 miles east of Columbus at the intersection of SR 37 and Interstate 70
Ohio - Licking County
Incident date: 4/19/1990
Homicide date: Unknown
Gender: Female
Race/Ethnicity: White
Height: Approximately 5'3"
Weight: Approximately 115 lbs
Hair color: Brown
Eye color: Brown
Law enforcement agency: Licking County Sheriff's Office


Details

The body of a white female was found behind the parking lot of a truck stop, 20 miles east of Columbus at the intersection of SR 37 and Interstate 70. The victim is estimated to be 20-30 years old, 5'3" and 115 lbs. The victim has reddish brown collar length wavy hair, brown eyes, ears pierced once in each lobe, a white mole to the right of the nose bridge and has birthed at least one child. DNA, fingerprints and dentals are available for comparison"

Stella
02-17-2014, 12:37 AM
Paraphrased from: http://virtual.brantfordexpositor.ca/doc/Brantford-Expositor/vibrant-may2012/2012052301/27.html#26

Her parents never gave up hope that Mabel was alive. Though they died in 1983 and 1984, they'd named Mabel as an heir in their wills some 30 years after her disappearance.


I just read the Expositor article for the first time. What I surmise from the story is that after Mabel's boyfriend dropped her off, at least one man she knew dropped by the house, accompanied by others she may or may not have known. A little impromptu party took place there as Mabel's brother said the sound of his sister laughing loudly and the voices of men woke him up. Neighbors also heard a "ruckus" coming from the house after midnight. It may have started out as a friendly gathering but turned into a situation that got out of hand. I'm thinking Mabel was attacked and injured or perhaps taken by these men to another location where she was eventually murdered and disposed of.

kline
02-19-2014, 05:28 AM
Ive been reading too much James Ellroy.:facepalm:
In that Newspaper account I was immediatly drawn to the accompanying article about the Unexplained Rabbit Mutilations and wondering if there was a connection.

Rainstorm
09-13-2014, 07:33 PM
I'm curious to know what the brother knows and thinks. He was 8 then. He grew up with this. He would have been in the loop. As well as the old stories that would be spread.
There are times when you are dressing or let's say she got ready for bed and someone was At her window. At that time probably not appropriate to answer your door or window In pj's so you put on jeans and grab a hoodie. Or coat.
Perhaps she was sneaking out To talk to who ever. Perhaps a boy she was seeing.