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PrayersForMaura
06-09-2006, 04:31 PM
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) Oklahoma on Friday became the fifth state to allow the death penalty for certain sex crimes, although legal scholars questioned the constitutionality of the new state law.
Under the measure signed by Gov. Brad Henry, anyone convicted twice for rape, sodomy or lewd molestation involving children under 14 can face the death penalty.

South Carolina's governor signed a similar law on Thursday allowing the death penalty for offenders convicted twice of raping children younger than 11. Louisiana, Florida and Montana also have laws allowing the death penalty for certain sex crimes.

Defense attorneys and death penalty experts said the laws defy recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions that have scaled back the death penalty's application.

More: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-09-okla-molester-executions_x.htm?csp=34

Angels_Not_Forgotten
06-09-2006, 04:52 PM
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/clap.gif So happy to read this!

cryslyn75
07-10-2006, 02:58 PM
I think this is great, I live in Oklahoma & never heard about this, how awesome :)

curious1
07-10-2006, 03:30 PM
This is great, but now here come all the lawyers and bleeding hearts who are more damn concerned with the rights of the perp than they are the victims. To them I say.....:razz:

Dena
03-02-2007, 04:39 PM
YES!!! Although I wish it came after ONE offense, not TWO.

Amraann
03-03-2007, 08:01 AM
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) Oklahoma on Friday became the fifth state to allow the death penalty for certain sex crimes, although legal scholars questioned the constitutionality of the new state law.
Under the measure signed by Gov. Brad Henry, anyone convicted twice for rape, sodomy or lewd molestation involving children under 14 can face the death penalty.

South Carolina's governor signed a similar law on Thursday allowing the death penalty for offenders convicted twice of raping children younger than 11. Louisiana, Florida and Montana also have laws allowing the death penalty for certain sex crimes.

Defense attorneys and death penalty experts said the laws defy recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions that have scaled back the death penalty's application.

More: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-09-okla-molester-executions_x.htm?csp=34


:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: the only flaw I see is that it applies to offenders who are TWICE convicted.
IMO pervs should not b let out of prison to re-offend..
they should not ever ever ever get a second chance.

sabego
03-09-2007, 01:33 PM
I have to agree they should not be let out the first time. I think with solid proof of their crimes, we should take away their eyesight. If they cannot see the child they cannot do it harm. I know that is way out there. But it is best I can think of short of shooting them dead!

Just this Okie's opinion!

Sabego

pedinurse
03-28-2007, 10:41 PM
note to self: move back to Oklahoma ASAP!

Aprilvic
03-29-2007, 04:47 PM
Yeah Brad!!
This is something that Frank would have never let passed!!
April
okie from muskogee

bakerprune64
03-29-2007, 04:59 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: the only flaw I see is that it applies to offenders who are TWICE convicted.
IMO pervs should not b let out of prison to re-offend..
they should not ever ever ever get a second chance.

Amra, I agree 100%.

rainbow
04-05-2007, 01:41 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

SeriouslySearching
05-26-2007, 01:17 AM
I think twice implies that the first time could be a miscarriage of justice. I am delighted Oklahoma and our GREAT Gov Brad Henry is doing SOMETHING! FINALLY! (Altho...legal hurdles now begin with the defense lawyers and the Supreme Court...he DID SOMETHING!) Living in Oklahoma is always an experience. This time it is in the right direction!

AutumnBorn
08-21-2007, 10:30 PM
I hope that's rape of a child under 14, sodomy with a child under 14, and rape of a child under 14. Some of my favorite people enjoy a little sodomy with people their own age.

Snick1946
06-15-2009, 11:56 AM
Before we carry the celebration too far step back a bit and think of the ramifications:
Isn't this going to lead to a situation in which a sex criminal will be more likely to kill his victim if he knows he will face the death penalty?
At one time some states had the death penalty for kidnapping and that's what happened, there were cases in which people were murdered as a result.
Good intentions- end result is fraught with danger in my opinion.

elle1919
06-22-2009, 01:00 PM
Before we carry the celebration too far step back a bit and think of the ramifications:
Isn't this going to lead to a situation in which a sex criminal will be more likely to kill his victim if he knows he will face the death penalty?
At one time some states had the death penalty for kidnapping and that's what happened, there were cases in which people were murdered as a result.
Good intentions- end result is fraught with danger in my opinion.


I think a sex criminal is more than likely to kill his/or her victim nowadays anyway. I mean are we assuming that a predator is going to rape and assault the child then drop them back off accordingly in front of their home? In a park maybe? No thanks, I think the death penalty is ....in the words of goldie locks....juuuust right. At first I thought maybe death penalty after 1st offense....but SS, you make a good point, I suppose someone m-i-g-h-t be falsely accused, that is possible but wouldn't the trial take care of determining guilt or innocence?

Novice Seeker
09-24-2009, 06:33 AM
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) Oklahoma on Friday became the fifth state to allow the death penalty for certain sex crimes, although legal scholars questioned the constitutionality of the new state law.
Under the measure signed by Gov. Brad Henry, anyone convicted twice for rape, sodomy or lewd molestation involving children under 14 can face the death penalty.

South Carolina's governor signed a similar law on Thursday allowing the death penalty for offenders convicted twice of raping children younger than 11. Louisiana, Florida and Montana also have laws allowing the death penalty for certain sex crimes.

Defense attorneys and death penalty experts said the laws defy recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions that have scaled back the death penalty's application.

More: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-09-okla-molester-executions_x.htm?csp=34



Well then, we as the people of this free great nation who have cried the tears, gave our love to the child who we have never met and live with the pain in our hearts when any of our precious children die a horrific, terrifying death should stand strong in front of our judges and congressmen and women and especially before our President. And be the voice for each of these children who have forever lost his or hers.

Novice Seeker

Novice Seeker
09-24-2009, 06:40 AM
Before we carry the celebration too far step back a bit and think of the ramifications:
Isn't this going to lead to a situation in which a sex criminal will be more likely to kill his victim if he knows he will face the death penalty?
At one time some states had the death penalty for kidnapping and that's what happened, there were cases in which people were murdered as a result.
Good intentions- end result is fraught with danger in my opinion.

Perhaps, but if the perp values his/her own life more than the law could also be a deterient from going thru with this act. If someone is going to kill, they will, not b/c of some law but b/c they choose to. IMO find this justification for not making the DP part of the consequence.

Novice Seeker
09-24-2009, 06:43 AM
Before we carry the celebration too far step back a bit and think of the ramifications:
Isn't this going to lead to a situation in which a sex criminal will be more likely to kill his victim if he knows he will face the death penalty?
At one time some states had the death penalty for kidnapping and that's what happened, there were cases in which people were murdered as a result.
Good intentions- end result is fraught with danger in my opinion.

Perhaps, but if the perp values his/her own life more than that of the child could also be a deterient from going thru with this act and face the death penalty. If someone is going to kill, they will, not b/c of some law but b/c they choose to. IMO find this justification for not making the DP part of the consequence for the death of a child without merit.

If they truly want to stop from killing or molesting our children there are organizations they can reach out to for help. If they choose not to then they must live with the consequence.

Novice Seeker

CHICANA
03-10-2010, 02:01 AM
Even significant jail time would be a motive to kill the victim. I'm tired of seeing child molestors walk after serving a few years. When they get out, they're even more dangerous. I like the idea, but life in prison without the possibility of parole would be my second choice.
How about only killing them when there is DNA evidence present ?

RevMSwain
07-01-2011, 01:59 AM
Next step, get the same law passed nationwide! I know we could sure use it in Ohio! Although, I agree that they shouldn't get a second chance, which allows them to destroy 2 lives!

Tugela
04-09-2012, 04:48 AM
I assume that the law would only be actually applied in the most extreme cases, such as a violent rape by a stranger. I doubt that anyone would be sentenced to death in non violent cases, no matter how many victims there were or how many times the perp reoffended. Reoffence is more likely to be a lengthy jail sentence.

The law would encourage perps to kill their victims under these circumstances since it would reduce the risk of getting caught, and since the penalty would be the same.

I guess the question for parents is this, which would you prefer if your child was raped, get them back alive or get them back dead? Because that is the scenario that is being set up.

PHB
04-09-2012, 05:40 AM
Laws like this are challeged so much by the bleeding heart anti-dp crowd, its seems futile to try to pass them. Didn't Georgia have one thrown out recently?
What they ought to do, IMO, is have mandatory sentencing laws for these crimes. Child rape, first offence,= LWOP.
We have mandaory sentencing for drug and gun crimes, why not for child predators? Who would you rather have as a neighbor, a former crack dealer, or a former child rapist?
The former crack dealer MIGHT have learned the error of his ways in prison.
JMO

Tugela
04-09-2012, 10:20 PM
People who violently rape a child generally get sent to prison for a vey long time, so that isn't an argument.

Kimberlyd125
04-09-2012, 10:26 PM
We have that law on our books in Louisiana but the supreme court won't let us carry out the executions.

Tugela
04-09-2012, 10:26 PM
Laws like this are challeged so much by the bleeding heart anti-dp crowd, its seems futile to try to pass them. Didn't Georgia have one thrown out recently?
What they ought to do, IMO, is have mandatory sentencing laws for these crimes. Child rape, first offence,= LWOP.
We have mandaory sentencing for drug and gun crimes, why not for child predators? Who would you rather have as a neighbor, a former crack dealer, or a former child rapist?
The former crack dealer MIGHT have learned the error of his ways in prison.
JMO

I would like to see LWOP for all acts of violence, not just rape. Hit your spouse, game over. Get into a bar brawl, game over. Road rage, game over. Threaten someone, game over. Not interested in excuses.

Criminals should only be allowed out of prison or some sort of controlled environment if their offences are statutory in nature.

We need to have a zero tolerance policy towards any of that.

passionflower
04-09-2012, 10:32 PM
IMO, these creeps do not deserve LWOP because we the people have to feed, house, clothe and give medical care forever with this economy...........bring back hanging.
Seriously a rope is cheaper. JMOO

PHB
04-10-2012, 12:49 AM
We have that law on our books in Louisiana but the supreme court won't let us carry out the executions.

BBM.
That was what I was thinking of.

PHB
04-10-2012, 01:00 AM
Also, say a predator commits his crime at 20 years of age, and recieves a 30 year sentence. Why wouldn't he be dangerous at 50 years old? John Couey was in his late 40's when her killed Jessica Lundsford, and I think Alfonso Rodriguez, who killed Dru Sjodin, was 50.
So getting "sent to prison for a very long time", clearly is not good enough.