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anthrobones
07-10-2006, 01:38 PM
http://doenetwork.org/cases/405uffl.html

Unidentified Black Female


The victim was discovered on October 8, 1978 in Lake Harris in Tavares, Lake County, Florida
Estimated Date of Death: 3-5 days prior to the discovery of the body
State of Remains: Partialy decomposed
Cause of Death: Drowning


Vital Statistics


Estimated age: 17 - 18years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'2 - 5'4; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Black hair; brown eyes. Pierced ears.
Dentals: Not Available
Fingerprints: Available


Case History
The nude body of a young black female was located in Lake Harris in Tavares, Lake County, Florida on October 8, 1978.
Her hair was close-cropped and her fingernails and toenails were clipped very short with red nail polish.
According to the autopsy report, the victim had not had any dental work done.
Also, the victim had never given birth to a child.
When the victim was found, she was bound on her wrists and ankles with white wire coat hangers. She had been gagged with two bandanas, one blue and whilte, the other yellow and blue.

Airys_01
07-11-2006, 03:44 AM
there have been a number of African American females who have disappeared from Florida mostly in the 70s and 80s. I wonder if this case could be connected

anthrobones
07-11-2006, 09:53 PM
Here are the African American females missing from the 70's and 80's:



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1106dffl.html
Margaret Dash, 1974

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1753dffl.html
Lillie Miller, 1981

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/512dffl.html
Retha Hiers, 1982

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1737dffl.html
Donyelle Johnson, 1989

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1376dffl.html
Michelle Harley, 1989

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1938dffl.html
Shiela Williams, 1988

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1949dffl.html
Margie Phillips, 1986

belfastgirl73
01-25-2011, 12:02 AM
:bump:

Donjeta
01-25-2011, 03:36 AM
The original link was outdated.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/405uffl.html

http://doenetwork.org/cases/images/405UFFL.jpg

webrocket
01-25-2011, 07:56 PM
is it just me or does the reconstruction in the doe network link Donjeta provided look male to anyone else?

webrocket
07-16-2011, 05:02 PM
here is the Namus profile for this UID. no rule-outs listed:

https://identifyus.org/cases/6029

JayFletcher6493
11-28-2014, 02:40 AM
The only person who kind of looks like this jane doe is Denise El-Mansura. Here is her Doe Network page.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3345dfla.html

Kymistry35
12-16-2014, 03:13 PM
I wish we could get a much better recon!

Migmuu
12-16-2014, 04:59 PM
I wonder if this UID was ever looked at as being possibly related to the Lake Mann murders. I just realized this case looks pretty similar to them and I think there could be a connection, based on the limited info we have.
The two Lake Mann murders were confirmed to be related. One of the girls in that case was identified a few months ago as Nancy Grace Daniel, but the other girl remains unidentified.

http://doenetwork.org/cases/727uffl.html
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/728uffl.html - Nancy Grace Daniel
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?247905-FL-Lake-Mann-BlkFem-727UFFL-17-20-1-of-2-Bodies-2nd-Recently-ID-d-Jan-77

The similarities I see:
- All were teenagers
- All were African-American
- All had the same general description (5'2 - 5'6, slender, black hair, etc)
- All found in lakes
- The timeline is pretty close. The first body was found in Lake Mann in January 1977, the second just two months after that, and then this girl in Leesburg about 1 1/2 years after
- The murders are estimated to have taken place around the same time of year. The first girl found died around August, the second girl between September and November, and the Leesburg girl in very early October
- Leesburg is about 45 miles from Lake Mann

There are a few inconsistencies, though:
- The Leesburg girl was bound and gagged, the Lake Mann girls weren't (as far as we know)
- She was also nude, while the Lake Mann girls were clothed

The CoD for the two Lake Mann girls is undetermined, so I can't really draw any connections based on that.