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kwatson696
07-25-2006, 12:15 PM
L.A. Sheriff Looks Into 50 Missing Women
July 25th, 2006 @ 10:01am



LOS ANGELES (AP) - Homicide investigators are trying to find at least 50 women they have linked to a man who is in prison for killing two women in the early 1980s, officials said.

A sheriff's department statement said they may have been rape or homicide victims between and 1975 and 1984

MORE AT LINK BELOW---
http://www.620ktar.com/?nid=45&sid=151503

Maybe this will solve some of our Cold Cases....

Gina_M
07-25-2006, 02:35 PM
This may be a longshot, but I'm wondering if there's a connection to this case:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40964

I've been puzzling over Dorothy's case for a while, and I know some of the
pieces don't seem to fit (she was in Anaheim, these victims were from L.A. and nearby suburbs; he picked women up at bars and Dorothy wasn't known to go to bars) but still I am wondering...

kwatson696
07-25-2006, 02:39 PM
Maybe some of the photos they found on him will help too........:woohoo:

I wonder if they will release the photos to the media????

GlitchWizard
07-25-2006, 02:50 PM
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Homicide investigators are trying to find at least 50 women they have linked to a man who is in prison for killing two women in the early 1980s, officials said.
I wish this guy would write a time management book. I barely have time to get even SOME of my daily stuff done, let alone run out and kill fifty some odd women.

kwatson696
07-25-2006, 02:56 PM
The missing women, according to detectives, are believed to have lived in West LA, Santa Monica, Culver City, Inglewood and local beach cities, and may have been raped or killed between 1975 and 1984.



Anyone who knows any of the women, who are unaccounted for, is asked to call detectives at 323-890-5500.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9572158/detail.html

Wow !!!! I think this could be huge in solving some cold old cases...........

Marie
07-25-2006, 04:02 PM
Wow !!!! I think this could be huge in solving some cold old cases...........My thoughts exactly! It's exciting to think that at least 50 cold cases could be solved - or even just 5 or 10 cases. Very huge!

Marie
07-25-2006, 04:37 PM
Kwatson696, you should also post this over in Cold Cases since so many of them are familiar with the missing & unidentified from the 70's & 80's - the more people looking at those photos the better chance of identifying them.

Trino
07-25-2006, 06:49 PM
I certainly hope these women are identified, but I doubt he will remember all the details back to 1975. That's 31 years! Maybe he could, at least, recall what he did with some of the bodies.

kwatson696
07-25-2006, 08:07 PM
L.A. sherriff looks into 50 missing women
L.A. Sheriff Looks Into 50 Missing Women
July 25th, 2006 @ 10:01am



LOS ANGELES (AP) - Homicide investigators are trying to find at least 50 women they have linked to a man who is in prison for killing two women in the early 1980s, officials said.

A sheriff's department statement said they may have been rape or homicide victims between and 1975 and 1984

MORE AT LINK BELOW---
http://www.620ktar.com/?nid=45&sid=151503

Maybe this will solve some of our Cold Cases....
__________________
Karen's http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/smilies/twocents.gif

http://www.techhelpers.net/e4u/animal/527.gif I originally posted this in the News section but it was suggested it might do some good here too.

mysteriew
07-25-2006, 08:38 PM
LOL, I just came in to post this. Misterallgood made up images for us to post, and he has a possible match he is sending in. The women in photos 4 and 5 look like the same women in photo 53.
The three women in photo 54, I feel pretty certain I have seen the one on the left in a picture here. She looks like just a kid.

kwatson696
07-25-2006, 08:39 PM
Hoo wah!!!!! Photos......



http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/25/bill.bradford.ap/popup.women.ap.jpg


Now we can search Cold Old Cases.....

mysteriew
07-25-2006, 08:51 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a255/mysteriew/misc/50missingwomen.jpg

mysteriew
07-25-2006, 08:53 PM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a255/mysteriew/misc/theresabaxterunknown.jpg

Misterallgood has made this match. Looks good to me, what do you all think?

SewingDeb
07-25-2006, 08:57 PM
Maybe some of the photos they found on him will help too........:woohoo:

I wonder if they will release the photos to the media????

You can see the photos here (http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;dm=ss;p=news;w=400).

SadieJane
07-25-2006, 09:10 PM
It looks like a very good match to me.

What do you guys think about this one?
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arakul_cheri.html
looks strikingly similar to number 29 to me.

let me know if you think it's a good match and i will send it in.

felder
07-25-2006, 09:24 PM
These photos were found when he was arrested in 1984, and the LE are just now looking into them?

More info: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/25/bill.bradford.ap/index.html

SewingDeb
07-25-2006, 09:28 PM
These photos were found when he was arrested in 1984, and the LE are just now looking into them?

More info: http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/25/bill.bradford.ap/index.html

From your link:

The photos and film were seized from Bradford's home when he was arrested in 1984, Peavy said. They went into a case file and remained largely untouched until now.

"I have a number of detectives that I have hired back to look at old cases for DNA evidence and stuff like that," he said. "One of those detectives came forward with these photographs and said, 'You know, this is something that I think we should take a look at.' And obviously we all agreed that it should have been looked at -- probably looked at before now."

....should have been looked at.....that's an understatement! I wonder how many families still have no idea what happened to their loved ones because no one looked any further into these pictures at the time. How many parents have died without answers?

I am really glad someone is finally doing the job.

mysteriew
07-25-2006, 09:35 PM
It looks like a very good match to me.

What do you guys think about this one?
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/a/arakul_cheri.html
looks strikingly similar to number 29 to me.

let me know if you think it's a good match and i will send it in.

Looks good to me. Hairstyle is slightly different, but is parted on the same side, eyebrows, chin, cheekbones, forehead look very similiar.

dottierainbow
07-25-2006, 09:40 PM
Do you think #8 could be Tammy Lynn Leppert missing in 1983 from Coco Beach, Florida?
Amy

anthrobones
07-25-2006, 10:01 PM
http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html

Photos. Closer up than the CNN link.

SadieJane
07-25-2006, 10:08 PM
All right, I've been looking at photos so long my eyes are starting to cross. But I found two missing women that look similar to the photos:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/byron_elizabeth.html
and number 34

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dominelli_linne.html
and number 10

Any of them any good? I think I am going to send in my previous match tomorrow. Cheri just looks too much like the woman for me to ignore.

ETA: I realized one of the woman disappeared before 1977, so I removed her.

anthrobones
07-25-2006, 10:09 PM
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/142ufca.html

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/59ufca.html

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/324ufca.html

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/110ufca.html

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/2ufca.html

http://doenetwork.us/hot/hotcase134.html


I didn't list ones that were like 60 years old or children/young teens.

mp80
07-25-2006, 10:10 PM
The woman on the right in #54 looks like #15.

In addition to some duplicates that we have noticed, the police have probably mixed in some random pictures of women who are not linked to the serial killer's cases. They often do that to help separate bad tips from good.

anthrobones
07-25-2006, 10:10 PM
I think 29 might be a light-skinned black girl. Looks it to me. Am I wrong?

anthrobones
07-25-2006, 10:12 PM
The hairstyles of 19, 20 and 21 and 51 I assume are from the 70's??

anthrobones
07-25-2006, 10:21 PM
I imagined this thread is going to be long.

Doe Network Disappeared females:
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1162dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/WVermaas.jpg
Vermaas, circa 1976.

Wilma Rae Vermaas
Missing since April 3, 1976 from West Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: May 24, 1952
Age at Time of Disappearance: 23 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: Scar on left knee, discoloration on abdomen.
Dentals: Available
AKA: Wilma Rae Swanson


Circumstances of Disappearance
Vermaas was last seen April 3, 1976 in West Los Angeles, California.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1418dfca.html
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/JEHarper.jpg
Harper, circa 1975


Joyce Elizabeth Harper
Missing since January 1, 1975 from San Diego, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: December 9, 1945
Age at Time of Disappearance: 29 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"; 120 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Harper was last seen January 1, 1975 in San Diego, CA. Foul play is suspected.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/827dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/LConnes.jpg
Connes, circa 1976

Lynn Ruth Connes
Missing since May 20, 1976 from Berkeley, Alameda County, California
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: June 21, 1955
Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; green eyes.
Marks, Scars: Scar on her lower lip. Freckles.
Clothing: A black shirt, black bellbottom pants, and a tan scarf.
Jewelry: A silver ring with an etched design.
Dentals: Available.


Circumstances of Disappearance
Connes was last seen at her home in Berkeley, California on May 20, 1976. She left her apartment to keep an appointment with a man named "Jeff" at Carleton Street and Telegraph Avenue.
According to police, Miss Connes advertised for work as a photographer's model and received a telephone call from someone named Jeff. He made an appointment to meet her at the Bateau Ivre Restaurant, 2629 Telegraph Avenue. The restaurant is four blocks from her residence at 2817 Regent Street. An unidentified waitress said that a woman matching Miss Connes' description came to the restaurant at 10:15 a.m. The restaurant was closed, but the waitress let her sit at a table while waiting for the appointment. The waitress did not see her leave and Miss Connes has not been seen since.
Police officers found her locked bicycle near the restaurant. Members of Miss Connes' family in Southern California say she has never run away or disappeared. Berkeley police officers say her habits indicate that she would not be expected to leave abruptly without telling friends. Miss Connes worked part time as a telephone solicitor in Marin County.

anthrobones
07-25-2006, 10:26 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/862dfca.html



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CHernandez.jpg
Hernandez, circa 1976

Cynthia May Hernandez
Missing since August 26, 1976 from Glendora, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: June 7, 1956
Age at Time of Disappearance: 22 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4; 125 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Hispanic female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Hernandez was last seen in Glendora, California on August 26, 1976.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/832dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/LBurleigh.jpg
Burleigh, circa 1977

Lou Ellen Burleigh
Missing since September 11, 1977 from Walnut Creek, Contra Costa County, California
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: October 26, 1955
Age at Time of Disappearance: 21 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8; 130 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Ellen Burleigh disappeared in 1977. She had graduated from Pleasant Hill High School and gone on to Heald Business College, where she had done so well that the school hired her. One day she answered a call from a man looking to open a new office for the Helena Rubinstein cosmetics company in Pleasant Hill.
Ellen set up an interview the following day, Saturday, Sept. 10. But when she arrived at the Regency Plaza Shopping Center on Contra Costa Boulevard, the man told her the shopping center was still under construction and he'd have to interview her in his van. Ellen was uneasy, but the man did nothing untoward. He called later and asked her to come back the following day, to talk again. Ellen went, but she never came back. Police have never publicly identified a suspect.
The "employer" is described as being 45 - 50 years old with a medium build. He was White and had graying hair, which he combed over to conceal a bald spot. His van was yellow / orange with multi-colored red and blue swirls painted on the vehicle's sides. The van had porthole-style windows. Foul play is suspected.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/915dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/SCarlson.jpg

Sylvia Helen Carlson
Missing since December 12, 1977 from Santa Monica, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: April 21, 1938
Age at Time of Disappearance: 39 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6" (168 cm.); 130 lbs. (59 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
Marks, Scars: Scar on back, broke left wrist with pin, and scar on right side by kidney.
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Carlson was last seen in Santa Monica, California on December 12, 1977.

BillyGoatGruff
07-25-2006, 10:28 PM
L.A. Sheriff Looks Into 50 Missing Women
July 25th, 2006 @ 10:01am



LOS ANGELES (AP) - Homicide investigators are trying to find at least 50 women they have linked to a man who is in prison for killing two women in the early 1980s, officials said.

A sheriff's department statement said they may have been rape or homicide victims between and 1975 and 1984

MORE AT LINK BELOW---
http://www.620ktar.com/?nid=45&sid=151503

Maybe this will solve some of our Cold Cases....
Another oddly phrased headline.
My response would be, first, "yuck" and then: if they're missing how can he look into them?

mysteriew
07-25-2006, 11:29 PM
Don't completely dismiss the missing children. I would swear that the girl in picture #54, on the left, is a teen.
And even with the others, some could be 16-18 year old's, sometimes they look older than what they are. Remember, they may have thought they were going to be photographed by a fashion photographer, so they may have gone a little heavier on the makeup.

Steve Huff says that #28 has already been identified as Donnalee Campbell Duhamel according to an AP article. Huff also makes the point that some of the hairstyles were not fashionable during the late 70's early '80's, but were more in fashion during the 60's. So it may be possible that LE time period may be off.
http://huffcrimeblog.com/

felder
07-26-2006, 12:24 AM
I'm not very good at this, but thought I'd give it a try:

Compare: woman in picture #32
http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=1;s=1;dm=ss;p=news;w=400

and http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/324ufca.html

Sorry I can't figure out how to abbreviate a link.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 12:34 AM
Okay, I'm really creeped out! :eek: This might have been the guy that approached me one day walking home from high school alone in 1978- L.A. suburb not a long distance from Lancaster! He told me he was a photographer and that I could be a model (Mind you I'm short!). First he said they'd be clothed on a beach, then it became semi-topless in an office building. He balked when I insisted my boyfriend come along. Fortunately that was the last time I ever heard from him.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 12:35 AM
Okay, I'm really creeped out! :eek: This might have been the guy that approached me one day walking home from high school alone in 1978- L.A. suburb not a long distance from Lancaster! He told me he was a photographer and that I could be a model (Mind you I'm short!). First he said they'd be clothed on a beach, then it became semi-topless in an office building. He balked when I insisted my boyfriend come along. Fortunately that was the last time I ever heard from him.

reportertype
07-26-2006, 01:26 AM
Florida links. First thing I thought of after glancing at the pictures was Tammy. Going now to look at #8.

I think misterallgood's match looks very promising.

Marie
07-26-2006, 01:29 AM
I think some of the pics are from the 60's too. I have pictures of my mom and her friends from that decade and the hairstyle's are similar; I'd say mid to late 1960's.

Bradford was born in 1946, making him 18y in 1963/64 - I don't know how long he was in CA, but don't discount persons who disappeared from around 1960 onwards (to be on the safe side). One of his victims was only 15y - he probably didn't like pre-teens, but any missing persons 11/12y and older should probably be considered (we all know they can look much older with make-up and certain clothing).

I believe his arrest was on July 31 1984 - so does it make sense to search the years 1960 (Bradford age 14/15) through July 1984 and missing ages 12 - 40?

LinasK
07-26-2006, 01:33 AM
I think some of the pics are from the 60's too. I have pictures of my mom and her friends from that decade and the hairstyle's are similar; I'd say mid to late 1960's.
Some of the hairstyles are from the 60's, some from the 70's. Doesn't mean that was his timeframe, just that those may be the only pictures available of those particular women...

reportertype
07-26-2006, 01:51 AM
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/827dfca.html

The circumstances here sure fit. (Sorry if someone posted this already and I missed it.)

Marie
07-26-2006, 01:58 AM
Some of the hairstyles are from the 60's, some from the 70's. Doesn't mean that was his timeframe, just that those may be the only pictures available of those particular women...But I thought all the photographs were taken by Bradford?

"Sheriff’s investigators who reopened an old case file are trying to find about 50 women who were photographed decades ago by a man now on death row for murdering two aspiring models in the early 1980s, authorities said Tuesday."

Marie
07-26-2006, 02:06 AM
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/827dfca.html

The circumstances here sure fit. (Sorry if someone posted this already and I missed it.)She was posted above by anthrobones, and I agree the circumstances fit very well! Lynn Ruth Connes

reportertype
07-26-2006, 02:11 AM
Found this farther down in the linked article. Also made me think of Tammy.

In the 1970s and '80s, Bradford, now 60, posed as a freelance photographer in the West Los Angeles area, taking photos of women he met at bars and "car race events," according to information on the department Web site, which showed photos of women striking poses.

The story says the photos were all found in his possession so either he took them or some of the women gave him photos, maybe, if he was supposedly going to further their modeling careers.

scandi
07-26-2006, 02:30 AM
You were very smart and on the ball Linask. thank goodness!

I only looked at the first 4, but right away noticedethat they all looked like Glamour Shots. Glamour Shots weren't around yet I don't think, but the same idea.


Scandi

LinasK
07-26-2006, 02:42 AM
You were very smart and on the ball Linask. thank goodness!

I only looked at the first 4, but right away noticedethat they all looked like Glamour Shots. Glamour Shots weren't around yet I don't think, but the same idea.


Scandi
Not smart enough not to have given him my home phone #, but enough not to have gotten into his car or be photographed by myself with him. I talked to my neighbor about it and she suggested my boyfriend 6'2" go along. I did think it was wierd he thought I could be a model since I'm short, I am busty though, seems thats what Bradford liked!:eek:

LinasK
07-26-2006, 02:51 AM
OMG! I just looked at the photo of the link on this page and the guy who approached me I remember as being a brunette with a mustache, and his age is in the right range for the guy who approached me! This is really creepy!

He was parked in front of the Junior High. Trolling???

kwatson696
07-26-2006, 08:17 AM
Here is another article ...

:furious:

Missing women cases linked to prisoner

Jul. 26, 2006 at 7:42AM
A Los Angeles Police detective said a man on death row for the killings of two women in the 1980s may be connected to at least 50 other missing women.
The detective said the missing women, believed to be from Santa Monica, West Los Angeles, Culver City, Inglewood, and nearby California beach towns, were photographed by convicted killer Richard Bradford, KNX-AM Los Angeles reported Wednesday.
Bradford was convicted of first-degree murder in the slayings of Shari Miller and Tracey Campbell in 1987. Both women were strangled after Bradford took them to his home with promises of taking pictures to help their modeling careers, prosecutors said.
Bradford had asked jurors for the death sentence, saying, "think of how many you don't even know about," the radio station reported.
:mad: http://www.washtimes.com/upi/20060726-071215-2233r.htm

kwatson696
07-26-2006, 08:31 AM
http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html


Better photos here.....

Masterj
07-26-2006, 10:06 AM
Remember the poster who was looking for her sister Tammy who disappeared from FL? Didn't she do some modeling or acting? I'll have to look through past threads. I think the poster's name was Suzzane. I remember her sister was quite beautiful and blond and several of these pictures reminded me of her.

Masterj
07-26-2006, 10:09 AM
Tammy Lynn Leppert - here is the link:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34183

I'm not sure if the times would match but she certainly seems to have a look similar to the girls in the pics.

Masterj
07-26-2006, 10:23 AM
Florida links. First thing I thought of after glancing at the pictures was Tammy. Going now to look at #8.

I think misterallgood's match looks very promising.
Me too! This is crazy.

kwatson696
07-26-2006, 10:38 AM
Her name is Suzanne.....I will try to contact her.....

Elberethe
07-26-2006, 11:05 AM
Tammy Lynn Leppert - here is the link:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=34183

I'm not sure if the times would match but she certainly seems to have a look similar to the girls in the pics.

Resembles #7

dottierainbow
07-26-2006, 11:09 AM
I thought Tammy Lynn Leppert resembled #8.I am anxious to hear what Suzanne her sister thinks.
Amy

Elberethe
07-26-2006, 11:16 AM
Any ideas what years he was in Florida? There were a few cases attributed to Christopher Wilder who also used the photo shoot mo to lure in victims. Some bear resemblance, but don't want to waste my time if he wasn't even there then.

rayray
07-26-2006, 11:20 AM
This case automatically made me think of Tammy Leppert... It is thought that he was once in the MI and FL areas.. this could really bring alot of closure to many families of missing women..


On a side note.. don't #16 and # 17 look IDENTICAL? (it feels awful referring to them as numbers)

DOes anyone remember a case about a girl who went missing.. her mother launched a huge search for her for many many years.. it was believed she was kidnapped by a motorcycle gang, the pagans or something?, i believe? I think, from my memory, I could be wrong.. that she resembles # 24.

eta: new question

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 11:22 AM
I thought Tammy Lynn Leppert resembled #8.I am anxious to hear what Suzanne her sister thinks.
Amy
I do too... it's those eyes; very beautiful eye's like Tammy's!

Elberethe
07-26-2006, 11:22 AM
"In the 1970s and '80s, Bradford, now 60, posed as a freelance photographer in the West Los Angeles area, taking photos of women he met at bars and "car race events," according to information on the department Web site, which showed photos of women striking poses." http://www.620ktar.com/?nid=45&sid=151503

"Wilder was a race car driver who frequented the Miami Grand Prix racetrack ... sometimes attempted to lure young female victims by offering non-existent "modeling sessions" http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gonzales_rosario.html

Rosario -
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/g/gonzales_rosario.jpg

#5 & #53 ?

opme
07-26-2006, 11:36 AM
Resembles #7

I think so too...
i also noticed in reference to Wilders possible victims that Mary Optiz (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/opitz_mary.html) bears a strong resemblance to # 40 in the slideshow.. http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=;s=40;p=news;dm=ss;w=400

I wobnder if there is a possibility that these 2 "photographers knew each other? or hat they had some kind of link? Mary Opitz was kidnapped from a mall in Fort Myers along with a friend Mary hare. Mary Hare was eventually found murdered.. but Mary optiz was never located.

rayray
07-26-2006, 11:40 AM
I went through the girls that Anthrobones submitted to the thread.. and I think I found some resemblences!

Wilma Vemaas- #49
Lynn Connes- #23
Cynthia Hernandez- #13, 22
LouEllen Burleigh- #40, 52
Sylvia Carlson- #10

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I really think that we're all on the right track! My girls may not be matches, but they are possibilities.

opme
07-26-2006, 11:43 AM
"In the 1970s and '80s, Bradford, now 60, posed as a freelance photographer in the West Los Angeles area, taking photos of women he met at bars and "car race events," according to information on the department Web site, which showed photos of women striking poses." http://www.620ktar.com/?nid=45&sid=151503

"Wilder was a race car driver who frequented the Miami Grand Prix racetrack ... sometimes attempted to lure young female victims by offering non-existent "modeling sessions" http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/gonzales_rosario.html

Rosario -
http://www.charleyproject.org/images/g/gonzales_rosario.jpg

#5 & #53 ?
Wow strong resemblance between the photo of Rosario and the girl on the right in slide #53.. seems like its feasible that Bradford was followng the race car circuit just as was Wilder.. similar modus operandi and same tates in women.. seems like its feasible these 2 could have known each other or worked together in some capacity.. or maybe its just that they have attributed some of these crimes to the wrong guy all these years..

Elberethe
07-26-2006, 11:50 AM
I think so too...
i also noticed in reference to Wilders possible victims that Mary Optiz (http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/opitz_mary.html) bears a strong resemblance to # 40 in the slideshow.. http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=;s=40;p=news;dm=ss;w=400

I wobnder if there is a possibility that these 2 "photographers knew each other? or hat they had some kind of link? Mary Opitz was kidnapped from a mall in Fort Myers along with a friend Mary hare. Mary Hare was eventually found murdered.. but Mary optiz was never located.

Seriously, I think there was a connection between the 2. Just too many similarities. Wilder is dead after a cross-country killing spree. I'm thinking Bradford just took over his mo. I also saw the resemblance in 40 to Opiz, but then figured we should try to find out when he was in Florida. I have a feeling after looking at so many of these, they are going to all start looking alike =P I'm pretty sure about the Rosario one though. Very unique look.

Elberethe
07-26-2006, 11:51 AM
Wow strong resemblance between the photo of Rosario and the girl on the right in slide #53.. seems like its feasible that Bradford was followng the race car circuit just as was Wilder.. similar modus operandi and same tates in women.. seems like its feasible these 2 could have known each other or worked together in some capacity.. or maybe its just that they have attributed some of these crimes to the wrong guy all these years..

Very possible they have attributed them to wrong killer all these years. I'm shocked these pictures are just now being brought to light and considered. WTF??? They were just tossed in a file and forgot??

Elberethe
07-26-2006, 12:03 PM
I sent this info to LACountyMurders@lasd.org?subject=case#: 006-00038-3100-444, Multiple Victim-Sexual Assault re the possible connection between Wilder/Bradford and Rosario. I also asked for a time frame when they believe he would have been in Florida. Not that I'm ever going to hear back.

There is another thread going on this at http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41404&page=1&pp=25

I think we should combine the 2 threads and keep this all together. I sent links to both threads in my email (in case they are interested in the matches we are coming up with).

Elberethe
07-26-2006, 12:17 PM
Actually, the more I look at this the more I think Rosario is #4 and Colleen Orsborn http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/o/orsborn_colleen.html (who is younger) is #5 with both of them pictured together in #53

southerngirl
07-26-2006, 12:51 PM
DOes anyone remember a case about a girl who went missing.. her mother launched a huge search for her for many many years.. it was believed she was kidnapped by a motorcycle gang, the pagans or something?, i believe? I think, from my memory, I could be wrong.. that she resembles # 24.

eta: new question
That would be Amy Billig.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/billig_amy.html

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 12:52 PM
According to CNN website, one of the women has been identified:

<SNIP>
"One, No. 28 on the display, was identified as Donnalee Campbell Duhamel, 31, whose decapitated body was found in a Malibu canyon in 1978 a few days after meeting Bradford at a bar, said sheriff's Capt. Ray Peavy."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/26/bill.bradford.ap/index.html

rayray
07-26-2006, 12:53 PM
That would be Amy Billig.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/billig_amy.html
OMG! that was the case I was thinking of... And now that I have her pic to look at, the girl I suspected was her, really resembles her, I think! )(#24)

What do ya think?

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 12:58 PM
According to CNN Website, one of the women has been identified:

<SNIP>
"One, No. 28 on the display, was identified as Donnalee Campbell Duhamel, 31, whose decapitated body was found in a Malibu canyon in 1978 a few days after meeting Bradford at a bar, said sheriff's Capt. Ray Peavy."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/07/26/bill.bradford.ap/index.html

rayray
07-26-2006, 12:59 PM
I had posted this on the link in Cold Cases.. maybe we could get the three threads merged?

This case automatically made me think of Tammy Leppert... It is thought that he was once in the MI and FL areas.. this could really bring alot of closure to many families of missing women..


On a side note.. don't #16 and # 17 look IDENTICAL? (it feels awful referring to them as numbers)

DOes anyone remember a case about a girl who went missing.. her mother launched a huge search for her for many many years.. it was believed she was kidnapped by a motorcycle gang, the pagans or something?, i believe? I think, from my memory, I could be wrong.. that she resembles # 24.

eta: new question


I went through the girls that Anthrobones submitted to the thread.. and I think I found some resemblences!

Wilma Vemaas- #49
Lynn Connes- #23
Cynthia Hernandez- #13, 22
LouEllen Burleigh- #40, 52
Sylvia Carlson- #10

Maybe it's just wishful thinking, but I really think that we're all on the right track! My girls may not be matches, but they are possibilities.


Quote:
Originally Posted by southerngirl
That would be Amy Billig.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/billig_amy.html

OMG! that was the case I was thinking of... And now that I have her pic to look at, the girl I suspected was her, really resembles her, I think! )(#24)

What do ya think?

anthrobones
07-26-2006, 01:02 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/853dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/EByron.jpg
Byron, circa 1978

Elizabeth Mary Byron
Missing since May 1, 1978 from Oxnard, Ventura County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: March 21, 1942
Age at Time of Disappearance: 36 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6" (168 cm.); 115 lbs (52 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
Marks, Scars: She has a large scar on her right leg
AKA: Elizabeth Winn; Elizabeth Underwood
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Byron was last seen on May 1, 1978 at her home in Oxnard, California.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1112dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CGMinchaca.jpg http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CGMinchaca1.jpg
Left: Minchaca, circa 1978; Right: Age-progression to age 43

Connie Gail Minchaca
Missing since June 9, 1978 from Napa, Napa County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: October 5, 1960
Age at Time of Disappearance: 17 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5" (165 cm); 120 lbs (54 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
Clothing: Black leather jacket, blue levis, pink blouse
Dentals: Available. She has several fillings
Other: DNA available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Minchaca was last seen at home on June 9, 1978.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/877dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/WByron.jpg
Byron, circa 1978

Wendy Susan Byron
Missing since August 26, 1978 from Glendora, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: May 7, 1954
Age at Time of Disappearance: 24 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5" (165 cm); 145 lbs. (66 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; green eyes.
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Byron was last seen August 26, 1978 in Glendora, CA. Her car was found at the Ontario, CA airport.
Byron was married and her husband was a suspect in her disappearance. Foul play is suspected.

southerngirl
07-26-2006, 01:03 PM
OMG! that was the case I was thinking of... And now that I have her pic to look at, the girl I suspected was her, really resembles her, I think! )(#24)

What do ya think?
My first impression was no. I think Amy was abducted by the motorcycle gang that rolled through Coconut Grove the day she disappeared. But I'm really not very skilled at comparing photos.

rayray
07-26-2006, 01:04 PM
My first impression was no. I think Amy was abducted by the motorcycle gang that rolled through Coconut Grove the day she disappeared. But I'm really not very skilled at comparing photos.

I'm not either, but all we can do is try.. I just think they resemble each other.. Howeve,r it could just be the willowy brown hair etc.. it was very popular back then.

anthrobones
07-26-2006, 01:05 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/870dfca.html



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/DKidwell.jpg
Kidwell, circa 1979.

Debra Lynn Kidwell
Missing since May 4, 1979 from Ventura, Ventura County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: May 27, 1952
Age at Time of Disappearance: 26 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3" (160 cm.); 120 lbs. (55 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; hazel eyes.
Marks, Scars: Scar abdomen
Medical Conditions: Nervous condition
Dentals: Available
AKA: Debra Lynn Cronan


Circumstances of Disappearance
Kidwell was last seen May 4, 1979 in Ventura, CA.

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/739dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/AGilliam.jpg

Adrianne Gilliam
Missing since June 22, 1979 from San Jose, Santa Clara County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics Date Of Birth: April 20, 1960
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8"; 110 lbs.</B>
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair.
Dentals: Available
<LI>AKA: Adrianne Johnson

Circumstances of Disappearance
Gilliam met Gary Neal Johnson while hitchhiking in San Jose, California in 1977. Gilliam was 17 years old at the time and in high school; Johnson was 12 years older than her and lived with his parents while selling automotive chemicals. According to Johnson, Gilliam had an unhappy and allegedly abusive home life at the time. Johnson stated that Gilliam had many siblings and acted as the caregiver to the children. Johnson claimed he witnessed Gilliam's mother abuse her daughter shortly after they began dating. Gilliam decided to leave her residence shortly afterwards and she and Johnson hitchhiked to Kansas together.

Johnson said that he and Gilliam were happy in Kansas, but had financial problems and returned to San Jose to live with his parents six months later. Gilliam was employed in a hospital and earned her GED (General Education Development) and her California Nurse's Aide license. She and Johnson moved into an apartment together when their finances allowed it. The couple embarked on a six-week camping trip through the United States during the late spring of 1979. They returned to San Jose and found new jobs in June of that year. Gilliam had been employed at a registry as a nurse's aide for three weeks on June 22, 1979. She was sent home from work on that day when she failed to arrive in her uniform. According to Johnson, Gilliam was last seen returning to their residence and disappeared. She has never been seen again.

Johnson said that he realized Gilliam was missing when he returned home from work that evening. He stated that he searched for her and called the authorities, but was told he had to wait 72 hours before filing a report. Johnson enlisted the help of the San Jose mayor's office on June 25, three days after Gilliam vanished, when he was still refused assistance from law enforcement. Johnson said that the mayor's office intervened and requested that the police and media investigate Gilliam's case.

Johnson married in 1985 and began using drugs around that time. He began selling drugs around 1986 and shot and killed an innocent bystander while involved in a drug transaction. Johnson was convicted of the murder in the late 1980s. He claimed that a prison informant lied to authorities and told them Johnson admitted to Gilliam's 1979 murder. Johnson was charged with the crime and brought to trial in California. Several of Gilliam's family members testified that they believed Johnson was responsible for her death. He was convicted of her murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.

Johnson maintains his innocence. He has accepted responsibility for the death of the innocent bystander. Gilliam's body has never been located.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1191dfca.html


Lucinda Lynn Schaefer
Missing since June 24, 1979 from Torrance, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: July 9, 1962
Age at Time of Disappearance: 16 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 115 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
AKA: Cindy
Clothing: Dark blue jeans, White blouse with black mexican embroidery.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Schaefer was last seen in California on June 24, 1979, as she was walking back to her grandmother’s house, after a Christian youth meeting at St. Andrew’s Presbyterian Church.
Serial killers Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris confessed to her abduction and homicide. She has never been located.

rayray
07-26-2006, 01:07 PM
Bones.. I just want you to know you're doing an AWESOME job researching girls missing during this time period!

anthrobones
07-26-2006, 01:09 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1213dfca.html



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/AJHall.jpg
Hall, circa 1979

Andrea Joy Hall
Missing since July 8, 1979 from Redondo Beach, California.
Classification: Involuntary



Vital Statistics

Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'7"; 140 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Hall was last seen at Redondo Beach, CA on July 8, 1979, while hitchhiking.
Convicted serial killers Lawrence Bittaker and Roy Norris confessed to her abduction and homicide. She has never been located


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/777dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CBealer.jpg
Bealer, circa 1979

Carolyn Maryann Bealer
Missing since August 23, 1979 from Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: April 9, 1954
Age at Time of Disappearance: 25 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Black hair, brown eyes. She wears glasses with round lenses and a brown plastic frame.
AKA: Carolyn Maryann Fox
Dentals: Available. Her two upper front teeth are false.
Other: Alternate DOB of 04/09/1955.


Circumstances of Disappearance
Bealer was last seen August 23, 1979 in Los Angeles, CA. Foul play is suspected.
Larry Donald Smith was charged with Bealer's abduction and presumed murder shortly after she vanished. Authorities believe that Smith disposed of Bealer's remains in the Pacific Ocean. He was convicted of the charges and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole in 1980, one year after Bealer disappeared.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/961dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/DCoultas.jpg
Coultas, circa 1979

Donella Jean Coultas
Missing since December 18, 1979 from Pasadena, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: September 3, 1950
Age at Time of Disappearance: 29 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'7; 157 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; blue eyes. Pidgeon toed.
Marks, Scars: She has a mole over her navel and a Caesarian scar. She wears contact lenses.
Clothing: Light blue sweater, gray/blue top under sweater, dark blue pants and white tennis shoes.
Dentals: Available. Buck teeth.
AKA: Donella Schuman, Jeannie Coultas


Circumstances of Disappearance
Coultas was last seen in Pasadena, California on December 18, 1979. Foul play is suspected.

anthrobones
07-26-2006, 01:12 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/981dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/PEGomez.jpg
Gomez, circa 1979

Patricia E. Gomez
Missing since December 26, 1979 from Belvedere, Marin County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: August 26, 1956
Age at Time of Disappearance: 23 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6; 100 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown eyes; multicolor hair.
Clothing: Last seen wearing a long-sleeved red velour blouse, green corduroy pants or jeans, red knee socks and sandals.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Gomez was last seen in Belvedere, California on December 26, 1979.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/892dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/DDorfman.jpg

Denise Dorfman
Missing since February 9, 1980 from San Francisco, San Francisco County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: December 28, 1951
Age at Time of Disappearance: 28 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2" (157 cm.); 100 lbs. (45 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes. Denise wears large-frame glasses.
Dentals: Not available.


Circumstances of Disappearance
Denise was last seen on February 9, 1980 in San Francisco, CA.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/990dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/LTCoronado.jpg
Coronado, circa 1980

Lana T. Coronado
Missing since March 1, 1980 from San Francisco, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: December 14, 1948
Age at Time of Disappearance: 31 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6; 140 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: Scar on right arm
AKA: Lana Lou Sartoris
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Coronado was last seen in San Francisco, California on March 1, 1980. The exact day she went missing is unknown.

anthrobones
07-26-2006, 01:15 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/747dfca.html



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/TRains.jpg
Rains, circa 1980

Theresa Louise Rains
Missing since May 23, 1980 from Oakland, Alameda County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: April 13, 1949
Age at Time of Disappearance: 31 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6"; 115 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; blue eyes.
Marks: She has freckles.
Clothing: Blue jeans, rust colored coat, lace up boots.
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Rains was last seen in Oakland, California on May 23, 1980.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/868dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/GDahl.jpg

Gail Marie Dahl
Missing since August 2, 1980 from Simi Valley, Ventura County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: August 10, 1957
Age at Time of Disappearance: 23 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 6'0" (183 cm.); 135 lbs. (61 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; green eyes.
Marks, Scars: Horizontal scar on her calf.
AKA: Gail Gardner
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Dahl was last seen August 2, 1980 in Simi Valley, CA.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/740dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/JPeters.jpg
Peters, circa 1981

Janel Irene Peters
Missing since January 29, 1981 from Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: December 11, 1960
Age at Time of Disappearance: 20 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 125 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
Marks, Scars, Tattoos: Tattoo of a small bird on her left breast. A mole on her right cheek. Pierced ears.
Dentals: Available
Clothing: White sweater, light blue slacks and platform shoes.


Circumstances of Disappearance
Peters was last seen on January 29, 1981 in Los Angeles, California.

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07-26-2006, 01:23 PM
I wanted to repost here what I posted in the other thread, this is going to get confusing!

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Better look at pics here
Hiya everyone.

If you go to this link, then on the right side of page click on the poster, this gives you a slide show of each picture...much easier to see.

I am going to save this pics to my computer for further investigating...don't know how long we can access these sites.

It may take me awhile to save them all...once I get them saved, I'll post, anyone that wants a file w/these pictures for reference, email me at christine2448@charter.net I will send you all, or requested. THere are a total of 54 pictures, however, a quick scan tells me there are more than 1 picture of some girls.
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Pictures saved/Called det. about who is still unidentified
OK...I have them all saved (didn't take nearly as long as I thought!)

I know from reading that pictures # 16 + 17 have been identified as the same person, who called in to say it was her.


The articles also mentioned another picture, but not which one was identified as someone named Donnalee Campbell Duhamel, who was found decapitated in 1978 in a Malibu canyon...but not which picture, haven't had time to research yet to see which is her....if someone figures it out or reads about it please post, thanks.


I just left a message for the Homicide Det. in charge of this case to ask if there is a place we can go online to see which have been identified already, and how to get updates as more are identified. I will update you all as I am.
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Originally Posted by maima


I've been trying to find a photo of Bradford online, but can't seem to find one.

Here is a picture of the scum Bradford:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/christine2448/bradford.jpg

rayray
07-26-2006, 01:25 PM
Thanks Christine! :D

christine2448
07-26-2006, 01:26 PM
Here is the link to the other thread:

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41398

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 01:26 PM
Christine, I posted above that Donnalee Campbell Duhamel was identified as number 28 on the chart

Auggie21
07-26-2006, 01:44 PM
The article mentions that some of the women may be from Oregon. Does anyone know what his connection to Oregon is? When was he here?

christine2448
07-26-2006, 01:47 PM
Christine, I posted above that Donnalee Campbell Duhamel was identified as number 28 on the chart
Hiya Magic! What chart? I missed it.

I did just look back and see you had said it, didn't see it, thanks!

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 01:49 PM
Linask, you got lucky that you suggested taking your boyfriend to the shoot with you. How old were you at the time if you don't mind my asking?
Why don't you give detectives a call, and let them know of your experience. Maybe it will help with background and where and how he trolled. They have talked about him picking up women in bars and at the track, but your info is new, or at least not publicized.

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 01:55 PM
Hiya Magic! What chart? I missed it.

I did just look back and see you had said it, didn't see it, thanks!
You're welcome! I think with all the talent here on WS, you all will find and identify quite a few of those women!

christine2448
07-26-2006, 01:57 PM
You're welcome! I think with all the talent here on WS, you all will find and identify quite a few of those women!
I meant I saw where you mentioned she was identified, but what chart do you speak of? Is there one that is tracking who has been identified? I haven't found it.

I agree with your statement....the people here are INCREDIBLE!

kwatson696
07-26-2006, 02:09 PM
http://www.newspress.com/Top/Article/article.jsp?Section=LOCAL&ID=564776538856751388


:confused: In this article it said some of these women were his wives. Huh??????
REALLY?

hoping4truth
07-26-2006, 02:42 PM
"The case could lead outside California. Through the years, Bradford has spent time in Illinois, Texas, Florida, Michigan, Oregon and elsewhere."

snip from article:
http://www.newspress.com/Top/Articl...776538856751388

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 03:03 PM
I meant I saw where you mentioned she was identified, but what chart do you speak of? Is there one that is tracking who has been identified? I haven't found it.

I agree with your statement....the people here are INCREDIBLE!
The "chart" is the series of pics released by the LE... sorry I wasn't more clear! She's number 28 on the "pic chart"

christine2448
07-26-2006, 03:10 PM
The "chart" is the series of pics released by the LE... sorry I wasn't more clear! She's number 28 on the "pic chart"
Oh.... :slap: I should have understood, sorry! LOL!

opme
07-26-2006, 03:26 PM
I went thru some of the doe network cases from 1978 thru 1984 and found afew more I think are possible matches...

Robyn Marie Adler- #36 or #37

Emma Lorene Vaughn- #14


I could be off target and maybe its wishful thinking but I sure hope the LE can identify these women and finally give these families some closure... its been a long time coming for some many..

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 03:43 PM
According to this article the women are thought to be from the West Los Angeles, Santa Monica, Culver City, Inglewood, and other beach cities. But it also says the case has gerated leads from Michigan and Fla.
http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=5195548

Jeana (DP)
07-26-2006, 03:47 PM
My sister disappeared in 1984. I would have fallen off my chair if her photo had been on there, but she was in another state. This has got to be very hard on the families of those women in the pictures. My heart is breaking for them.

hoping4truth
07-26-2006, 03:53 PM
This guy was in a lot of states besides, CA. He also resided in FL for a while. He could have victims all over the country for all we know.

Here's a link to the cold case thread about this. Might have some new info for the posters here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41404

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 04:06 PM
This article says they have gotten leads from Michigan and Fla.
http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=5195548

opme
07-26-2006, 04:20 PM
I maybe wrong but these 2 pictures look very similar to me.....
Shaliegh Sharrie Phillips
Missing since February 12, 1988 from El Cajon, San Diego County, California.
Case File 151DFCA
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/151dfca.html


and Photo #5 http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=;s=5;p=news;dm=ss;w=400

In this case Shaliegh was filed as being a runaway...

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 04:23 PM
I'm getting sooooooooo confused! :waitasec: There are 3... count them 3! threads on this topic... 1 in Crimes In The News, 1 in Missing Persons Info and Support and 1 Cold Cases... :waitasec:

Sooooooooooo confused... hard to keep up with everything when it's all scattered about... :(

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 04:27 PM
I'm getting sooooooooo confused! :waitasec: There are 3... count them 3! threads on this topic... 1 in Crimes In The News, 1 in Missing Persons Info and Support and 1 Cold Cases... :waitasec:

Sooooooooooo confused... hard to keep up with everything when it's all scattered about... :(

Jeana (DP)
07-26-2006, 04:29 PM
I'm getting sooooooooo confused! :waitasec: There are 3... count them 3! threads on this topic... 1 in Crimes In The News, 1 in Missing Persons Info and Support and 1 Cold Cases... :waitasec:

Sooooooooooo confused... hard to keep up with everything when it's all scattered about... :(


We're MERGED! Continue here.

christine2448
07-26-2006, 04:31 PM
I didn't know of the 3rd...but I emailed the mods already asking them to fix this....I asked them to decide which was the best place for this and if the threads can be merged...I will PM them again letting them know there is now a 3rd thread.

EDIT TO ADD...magic, to confuse you more, LMAO, the one in Cold cases was originally in crimes in the news and has already been moved, so there is only 2 threads relating. :)

Jeana (DP)
07-26-2006, 04:33 PM
I didn't know of the 3rd...but I emailed the mods already asking them to fix this....I asked them to decide which was the best place for this and if the threads can be merged...I will PM them again letting them know there is now a 3rd thread.

EDIT TO ADD...magic, to confuse you more, LMAO, the one in Cold cases was originally in crimes in the news and has already been moved, so there is only 2 threads relating. :)


That thread is now closed with instructions to come here for discussion.

christine2448
07-26-2006, 04:35 PM
That thread is now closed with instructions to come here for discussion.
Thanks Jeana! I just PM'd asking you to do that, and came back and you had already done it! Your da best :blowkiss:

PrayersForMaura
07-26-2006, 04:36 PM
I think amy billig looks like #34:


http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/billig_amy6.jpg

LinasK
07-26-2006, 04:38 PM
Linask, you got lucky that you suggested taking your boyfriend to the shoot with you. How old were you at the time if you don't mind my asking?
Why don't you give detectives a call, and let them know of your experience. Maybe it will help with background and where and how he trolled. They have talked about him picking up women in bars and at the track, but your info is new, or at least not publicized.17 or 18. I thought about it last night, I may call today, but I have my little girl around, and I don't want her overhearing...

LinasK
07-26-2006, 04:52 PM
Okay Mysteriew, I did it! I contacted the L.A. sherriff's office at your prompting. They were very interested. The detective told me they had at least one other report of him being in the San Fernando Valley back then...:eek: :eek: :eek: I'm still creeped out, I'm shaking badly as I type this.

rayray
07-26-2006, 04:58 PM
RE AMY BILLIG: I mentioned that resemblence between her and @24 earlier in the thread! I see a huge similarity!

Masterj
07-26-2006, 05:13 PM
What about Kathleen Helen Randall for #26?

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237dffl.html

Masterj
07-26-2006, 05:16 PM
Or what about Beverli Elaine Darnell for #45?

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1803dffl.html

Masterj
07-26-2006, 05:18 PM
I feel this one is a REALLY strong match. Check out the pic of her in the cowboy hat?!?

Darlene Ann Webb #30

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/316dffl.html

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 05:38 PM
Okay Mysteriew, I did it! I contacted the L.A. sherriff's office at your prompting. They were very interested. The detective told me they had at least one other report of him being in the San Fernando Valley back then...:eek: :eek: :eek: I'm still creeped out, I'm shaking badly as I type this.

LOL, you didn't know how lucky you were did you? I thought your info might be helpful for background. Think of it like this- when your little one is 17-18 and arguing with you about going somewhere- what a scary story you have to tell her.

Mainly people seem to be looking in the missing persons for matches. Don't forget that it is possible that these women could be in the UID's also.

Masterj
07-26-2006, 05:40 PM
Somebody please look at my post #106. I feel very strongly about this. Anyone???

hoping4truth
07-26-2006, 05:43 PM
I just think this is amazing...

These photos have been in some filing cabinet for years, finally released to the public after all that time, and here you all are, looking through DOE Network and Charlie Project for matches! I am so thankful every day to be part of a community like this!
Kudos to you all! :blowkiss:

I am hoping all of these pictures aren't just of his victims - I hope some of these ladies are alive and well.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 05:44 PM
Somebody please look at my post #106. I feel very strongly about this. Anyone???
The nose on the middle shot, yes, but she could also look like #22 IMO.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 05:45 PM
I just think this is amazing...

These photos have been in some filing cabinet for years, finally released to the public after all that time, and here you all are, looking through DOE Network and Charlie Project for matches! I am so thankful every day to be part of a community like this!
Kudos to you all! :blowkiss:

I am hoping all of these pictures aren't just of his victims - I hope some of these ladies are alive and well.
Hopefully some of them had enough sense to get away after the photo shoot, as I had enough sense not to model.

tybee204
07-26-2006, 05:48 PM
Are you all interested in putting this in a spotlight forum and following it?

LinasK
07-26-2006, 05:49 PM
Are you all interested in putting this in a spotlight forum and following it?
Yes Please do. I'm majorly creeped out because I may have been a potential victim of a serial killer. I think this is the guy that approached me.

hoping4truth
07-26-2006, 05:54 PM
Somebody please look at my post #106. I feel very strongly about this. Anyone???

It looks like a really good match, MasterJ.
You should call in a tip, imo.

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 06:02 PM
I keep looking at the girl in photo 54, the one on the left. I am pretty certain that her picture has been on WS before as a part of a search for a missing person. Seems like she may have gone missing with someone else at the same time. Like her sister in law or something.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 06:07 PM
Does anybody on this thread remember what timeframe photographer Charles Rathbun was murdering models or have a photo or link of him? I thought it was after Bradford. The reason I want to know is I want to be sure it was Bradford who approached me, not Rathbun.

I asked this on another thread and haven't gotten an answer yet.

MagicRose99
07-26-2006, 06:08 PM
We're MERGED! Continue here.
Thank you! Now I won't be so confused... :blushing:

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 06:18 PM
I think 14 and 38 might be the same person like maybe years apart. And those photos look more candid while the others look more posed. (she also doesn't look real happy).
I think this might be significant, most of the pics are definately posed, and are taken against a plain wall or a background. But there are some mixed in that have a room in the background, and those look more casual. There are 3 or 4 that look as though they were taken outdoors.

tybee204
07-26-2006, 06:19 PM
Can someone give me a brief rundown so I know what it is all about please. Im going out in a few and will check back when I get back home and start a foum.

hoping4truth
07-26-2006, 06:23 PM
Does anybody on this thread remember what timeframe photographer Charles Rathbun was murdering models or have a photo or link of him? I thought it was after Bradford. The reason I want to know is I want to be sure it was Bradford who approached me, not Rathbun.

I asked this on another thread and haven't gotten an answer yet.

LinasK -

Rathbun was in 1996
http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/905:596/1/Model_Murders_Infamous_Murders.htm

I believe that the Hillside Stranglers also tried to lure girls to work for them - They put 2 into prostitution by inviting them to become 'models'. That was 1977 - 1978...check Ken Bianchi's pic ( http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/stranglers/kenny_4.html )
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/stranglers/rampage_1.htm

LinasK
07-26-2006, 06:44 PM
LinasK -

Rathbun was in 1996
http://www.thebiographychannel.co.uk/biography_story/905:596/1/Model_Murders_Infamous_Murders.htm

I believe that the Hillside Stranglers also tried to lure girls to work for them - They put 2 into prostitution by inviting them to become 'models'. That was 1977 - 1978...check Ken Bianchi's pic ( http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/stranglers/kenny_4.html )
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_killers/predators/stranglers/rampage_1.htmThanks Hoping. I don't think it was the Hillside Stranglers because they worked as a team, although the time frame was right. I was approached by a single guy who told me he was a photographer and wanted to take pictures of me.

Okay found a link with a picture of Rathbun. I'm fairly sure now that it was more likely Bradford who approached me. The guy I recall had dark hair, a mustache, and was wearing a cap. http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews3/sobeck.htm

kwatson696
07-26-2006, 06:54 PM
Another oddly phrased headline.
My response would be, first, "yuck" and then: if they're missing how can he look into them?
What do you mean???? "Another oddly phrased headline" In reference to ?????????:confused:

hoping4truth
07-26-2006, 07:04 PM
Thanks Hoping. I don't think it was the Hillside Stranglers because they worked as a team, although the time frame was right. I was approached by a single guy who told me he was a photographer and wanted to take pictures of me.

Okay found a link with a picture of Rathbun. I'm fairly sure now that it was more likely Bradford who approached me. The guy I recall had dark hair, a mustache, and was wearing a cap. http://www.francesfarmersrevenge.com/stuff/archive/oldnews3/sobeck.htm

LinasK-
I think they only did 'team killings'. Bianchi was in charge of getting the girls because he was more attractive than his cousin.

Ken Bianchi (http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/criminal_mind/psychology/s_k_groupies/7-2-Ken-Bianchi.jpg) matches the description you provided.

dottierainbow
07-26-2006, 07:14 PM
Looks like it could be. Great work.

Amy


What about Kathleen Helen Randall for #26?

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/237dffl.html

Masterj
07-26-2006, 07:14 PM
It looks like a really good match, MasterJ.
You should call in a tip, imo.
I sent an email to the LA Sheriff's Department.

real eyes
07-26-2006, 07:16 PM
Do we know which one(s) he was married to? What was their fate, missing, deceased or still living? This is just too strange. From my guess I would say that #27 is/was a wife...But I have no idea.

Is that him in #30?

LinasK
07-26-2006, 07:16 PM
LinasK-
I think they only did 'team killings'. Bianchi was in charge of getting the girls because he was more attractive than his cousin.

Ken Bianchi (http://www.crimelibrary.com/graphics/photos/criminal_mind/psychology/s_k_groupies/7-2-Ken-Bianchi.jpg) matches the description you provided.
The desription matches but it wasn't Bianchi. I just recalled that their M.O. was to pose as police officers,not photographers, then I found a link that confirms that:http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/caseclosed/hillside.shtml

During his confession Bianchi explained how he and Buono pretended to be police officers and had fake badges made up to support their charade. They found it easy to persuade prostitutes to get in their car, having convinced them they were being taken "downtown" to be booked for soliciting.

However, other women were harder to manipulate. Sometimes the pair pretended to ask for directions, or feigned working on their car, before bundling their victims into the vehicle and driving off. The victims also suffered a gruesome fate. Some were raped, strangled and dumped, whilst others, such as Kristina Weckler, were tortured before death.

My guy was clearly working the photographer angle.

real eyes
07-26-2006, 07:29 PM
I think #2 and (left) #53 are the same. Both also have a gold chain...

I think that #4 and (right) #53 are the same too, even the top is the same with these two.

hoping4truth
07-26-2006, 07:40 PM
The desription matches but it wasn't Bianchi. I just recalled that their M.O. was to pose as police officers,not photographers, then I found a link that confirms that:http://www.bbc.co.uk/crime/caseclosed/hillside.shtml

During his confession Bianchi explained how he and Buono pretended to be police officers and had fake badges made up to support their charade. They found it easy to persuade prostitutes to get in their car, having convinced them they were being taken "downtown" to be booked for soliciting.

However, other women were harder to manipulate. Sometimes the pair pretended to ask for directions, or feigned working on their car, before bundling their victims into the vehicle and driving off. The victims also suffered a gruesome fate. Some were raped, strangled and dumped, whilst others, such as Kristina Weckler, were tortured before death.

My guy was clearly working the photographer angle.

I'm sorry. I guess I was mistaken.
I watched a documentary on the Hillside Stranglers, and I thought I remembered that Ken Bianchi was trying to pick up girls to become 'escorts' to make money for him and his cousin. It was his cousins idea, but Bianchi was much more good looking than Angelo Buono. He used the photographer/talent agent line to get girls to unwillingly become escorts, not murder victims.

I'm probably wrong about that. You looked at the pic and you know it's not him. I was just hoping that you didn't have to feel like you made a connection with this particular guy (with a potential 50 victims) - I guess I was wishing for the lesser of two evils. :(

But it doesn't matter - You escaped what could have been a bad situation. I'm hoping the person you encountered was not either of those two men.

real eyes
07-26-2006, 07:49 PM
#27 and #39 both have this white thing around their head, I am not sure if this is a head band of some sort. Was this a common thing that people wore "back then".

Hollow
07-26-2006, 07:51 PM
Picture #18 looks like Joyce Irene Walcott

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/370dfca.html

real eyes
07-26-2006, 07:58 PM
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9580671/detail.html

Detectives Receive 14 Names Of 54 Missing Women
LOS ANGELES -- Sheriff's detectives received tips on the names of 14 of the 54 women whose photos were seized from the home of a convicted double-murderer and are working Wednesday to check up on them, an official said.

"Names associated with 14 of the women have been provided to detectives, and they are working to confirm their identities and whereabouts," Webb said.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 08:02 PM
http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9580671/detail.html

Detectives Receive 14 Names Of 54 Missing Women
LOS ANGELES -- Sheriff's detectives received tips on the names of 14 of the 54 women whose photos were seized from the home of a convicted double-murderer and are working Wednesday to check up on them, an official said.

"Names associated with 14 of the women have been provided to detectives, and they are working to confirm their identities and whereabouts," Webb said.
One photo, No. 28 on the display, was identified as Donnalee Campbell Duhamel, 31, whose decapitated body was found in a Malibu canyon in 1978 a few days after meeting Bradford at a bar, said sheriff's Capt. Ray Peavy.http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2006/07/26/state/n102813D87.DTL

Hollow
07-26-2006, 08:02 PM
...And #33 looks like one of those unidentified's they found in Texas, out of the two that looked so similar. I don't have time to look it up now though.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 08:05 PM
#27 and #39 both have this white thing around their head, I am not sure if this is a head band of some sort. Was this a common thing that people wore "back then".
Yeah, I still have some of those stretchy head bands. Except it was more worn in the 60's.

real eyes
07-26-2006, 08:08 PM
Picture #18 looks like Joyce Irene Walcott

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/370dfca.html
It says in the description that she was wearing a necklace with a unicorn on it...it does appear that she is wearing a necklace, but I cannot tell if it is a unicorn or not, I am playing with the picture to see if I can get better detail, but is is hard to tell...

Becba
07-26-2006, 08:18 PM
16 and 17 look like the same person to me.

christine2448
07-26-2006, 08:28 PM
16 and 17 look like the same person to me.
They are the same becba, she has already been identified, she called to say it was her.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 09:05 PM
Authorities said they are now fairly certain that 14 of the 50 unidentified women are alive, based on the tips they received after the photos were released. Detectives have set up a command center at the department's homicide squad in City of Commerce to cull through the tips and create a database.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-072606photog,0,7025984.story?page=1&coll=la-home-headlines

JDB
07-26-2006, 09:19 PM
Have they updated the web page about you has Been ID yet?

LinasK
07-26-2006, 09:20 PM
Have they updated the web page about you has Been ID yet?
JDB, I didn't actually model for him, he got scared off when I insisted my 6'2'' boyfriend come along.

Masterj
07-26-2006, 09:22 PM
JDB, I didn't actually model for him, he got scared off when I insisted my 6'2'' boyfriend come along.

I think JDB was wondering if the police said which pics had been identified.

JDB
07-26-2006, 09:22 PM
JDB, I didn't actually model for him, he got scared off when I insisted my 6'2'' boyfriend come along.
I know I was wondering if they updated the web site saying what pics have been ID> :D

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 09:34 PM
Can you imagine being one of the women he photographed so many years ago, then years later have that photo show up and find out he is a serial killer?

In his previous murders, he took the women to the desert on the pretext of the photo shoot and then murdered them. That means the photos that are taken out of doors could be especially important.

concernedperson
07-26-2006, 09:45 PM
Can you imagine being one of the women he photographed so many years ago, then years later have that photo show up and find out he is a serial killer?

In his previous murders, he took the women to the desert on the pretext of the photo shoot and then murdered them. That means the photos that are taken out of doors could be especially important.

I don't think that a stretch at all. Opportunity is all they need.

LinasK
07-26-2006, 09:50 PM
I don't think that a stretch at all. Opportunity is all they need.
I'm creeped out enough that I might have been a near victim. He originally wanted to photograph me on a beach, then it became an office building. I was more scared of the supposedly empty office building than I was of the outdoor setting. I guess outdoors you figure people will be around. But he could have grabbed me into his car. It was probably early on in his career.

concernedperson
07-26-2006, 09:57 PM
I'm creeped out enough that I might have been a near victim. He originally wanted to photograph me on a beach, then it became an office building. I was more scared of the supposedly empty office building than I was of the outdoor setting. I guess outdoors you figure people will be around. But he could have grabbed me into his car. It was probably early on in his career.

I remember you posting about this before. Long before he was ever suspected of this string. I am glad you are still wth us and it shows your resolve when speaking of real life experiences. Now, with that said you better be especially careful.

I met Aileen Wournos at a Burger King in Florida and I met Patsy Ramsey where I worked...so I am done with these kind of people.I choose to procede
without ever knowing one more.

Becba
07-26-2006, 10:05 PM
I feel this one is a REALLY strong match. Check out the pic of her in the cowboy hat?!?

Darlene Ann Webb #30

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/316dffl.html
In the artist drawing from your link it looks like they put a small mole in the exact spot as #30. Check it out and see what you think.

Becba
07-26-2006, 10:10 PM
They are the same becba, she has already been identified, she called to say it was her.I am so glad. It has been very upsetting looking at these beautiful women thinking they might all be murdered. And #27 looks so sad and defeated.

kwatson696
07-26-2006, 10:11 PM
http://articles.news.aol.com/news/_a/police-seek-identities-of-women-in/20060725120209990005?ncid=NWS00010000000001


http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h13/kwatson696/20060726110909990014.jpg


what an ugly little man.....

laini
07-26-2006, 10:26 PM
Are you all interested in putting this in a spotlight forum and following it?

I think that is an excellent idea! There are (unfortunately) too many pictures to keep it straight. It would be easier to follow that way.

laini
07-26-2006, 10:34 PM
#44 and Kristi Krebs. www.doenetwork.us/cases/808dfca.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/808dfca.html)

Becba
07-26-2006, 10:40 PM
What about 14dftx, Lisa Borden The eyebrows look fuller in #23 but she may not have plucked them for sometime. She is missing from Texas but it says she called her relatives from California.



http://doenetwork.us/cases/14dftx.html

and #23

http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=;s=23;p=news;dm=ss;w=400

laini
07-26-2006, 10:48 PM
#44 and Kristi Krebs. www.doenetwork.us/cases/808dfca.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/808dfca.html)

Oh wait, he was arrested in '84? Then it couldn't be Kristi. But it looks exactly like her.

southerngirl
07-26-2006, 11:29 PM
What about 14dftx, Lisa Borden The eyebrows look fuller in #23 but she may not have plucked them for sometime. She is missing from Texas but it says she called her relatives from California.



http://doenetwork.us/cases/14dftx.html

and #23

http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=;s=23;p=news;dm=ss;w=400
#23 is his ex-wife Cindy Sue.

http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5202162&nav=0RceHV68

This link also shows an earlier pic of Bradford.

HeartofTexas
07-26-2006, 11:36 PM
#23 is his ex-wife Cindy Sue.

Wow, that surprises me. Like another poster, I would have put money on #27 being his wife.

mysteriew
07-26-2006, 11:45 PM
#23 is his ex-wife Cindy Sue.

http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5202162&nav=0RceHV68

This link also shows an earlier pic of Bradford.

From the link:
During 1977 and 1978, Bradford lived in Allegan and Kent counties. (Michigan)

As for Bradford, before he left West Michigan he was charged with third-degree criminal sexual conduct in Allegan County.

His family says he skipped bail and never returned, only to be convicted of murder years later.

The sexual assault charges were later dropped, but we don't know why, as the file has since been destroyed.

HeartofTexas
07-27-2006, 12:09 AM
Apparently he's been married any number of times:


Court records show that William Bradford moved to West Michigan after a 1972 divorce. He got remarried and moved to a trailer park in Dorr.

But that marriage wouldn't last. After less than a year, his wife filed for divorce, claiming Bradford kicked her and threatened to hurt their two children.

Later, that same month, Allegan County court records show that Bradford was charged with attempted criminal sexual conduct. Those charges were later dropped.

And Michigan is checking into any possible cases related to Bradford.


The 60-year-old former West Michigan resident was convicted in two killings, but has said he murdered more people than authorities will ever know.

(snip)

"The next step is to dig into our old records, which were prior to computer management systems," says Lt. Ron Johnston of the Allegan County Sheriff's Department. "So there's going to be manual searching that's going to be done to see if we have anything that wasn't recalled by the people we've talked to already."

Allegan County detectives say there's no sign that Bradford is connected to any unsolved murders here. The focus will now be on missing persons and runaway cases.


http://www.wwmt.com/engine.pl?station=wwmt&id=28697&template=breakout_local.html

dottierainbow
07-27-2006, 04:58 AM
That looks like it may be a match.Never mind. I see that you had found out he was incarcerated at the time.
Amy



#44 and Kristi Krebs. www.doenetwork.us/cases/808dfca.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/808dfca.html)

Becba
07-27-2006, 06:03 AM
here is all I could come up with.

on doenetwork 319dfca and #40
http://doenetwork.us/cases/319dfca.html
http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=;s=40;p=news;dm=ss;w=400
on doenetwork 887dfva, Jane Puckett and #5

kwatson696
07-27-2006, 07:40 AM
Tammy Lepperts sister Suzanne has a website for her sister I don't think she would mind if I posted it here....I havent seen her on in awhile....Hope she is OK



http://p208.ezboard.com/ficaremissingpersonscoldcasesfrm7.showMessage?topi cID=1.topic

http://www.geocities.com/findtammy/tammysphotos.html

HeartofTexas
07-27-2006, 09:38 AM
Am I the only person that had a hard time locating this forum/topic this morning? I looked everywhere. Obviously, it was right under my nose, but that didn't seem to help.

Jeana (DP)
07-27-2006, 09:47 AM
Am I the only person that had a hard time locating this forum/topic this morning? I looked everywhere. Obviously, it was right under my nose, but that didn't seem to help.


No, I had trouble too. Tybee IS good!!!

rayray
07-27-2006, 11:31 AM
Masterj,
That resemblence is quite strong! The pic with the cowboy hat almost brought chills to me!


Somebody please look at my post #106. I feel very strongly about this. Anyone???

dontpanic38
07-27-2006, 12:05 PM
I am convinced that this is just the tip of the iceburg. This guy is one of the most sadistic, evil people I have ever read about. Steve Huff posted a link to a court document that is one of the most disturbing things I have read.

This guy really enjoyed torturing people, and when you read the details of the rapes, you have to think that as far as he went and as brutal as he was, the people who are alive are extrememly lucky. You can tell just by reading the facts that the people who are dead did not go quickly or peacefully.
Just reading it convinced me that when you take into consideration the brutality that he was capable of to the people who lived, there has to be a lot of people who did not live.

Also I saw that someone said that they were not searching for boys, or preteens, if you look at the court records, he is capable of anything.

Anyway, here is the link:
(I should add that it is an extremely long read and some of it is brutally graphic.)

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ZUDbU1aKjpQJ:caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/s005707.pdf+%22Bill+Bradford%22%2B%22Shari+Miller% 22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=firefox-a

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:15 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/856dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/JBrighton.jpg
Brighton, circa 1981.

Johanna Catherine Brighton
Missing since February 25, 1981 from Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: January 30, 1943
Age at Time of Disappearance: 38 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'8 (174 cm); 125 lbs. (57 kg)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; green eyes.
Marks, Scars: Healed fracture to right wrist.
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Johanna was last seen February 25, 1981 in Los Angeles, CA. Foul play is suspected.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1130dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/NNga.jpg

Ngol La Nga
Missing since March 3, 1981 from San Francisco, San Francisco County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: November 1, 1962
Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2"; 88 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: Asian female. Chinese. Black hair; brown eyes.
AKA: Nga Ngol La
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Nga was last seen on March 3, 1981 in San Francisco, California.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/819dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CLubahn.jpg
Lubahn, circa 1981

Carol Jeanne Lubahn
Missing since March 31, 1981 from Redondo Beach, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: October 28, 1954
Age at Time of Disappearance: 26 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6; 117 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
Marks, Scars: She has a mole on the left side of her chin.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Lubahn was last seen at The Red Onion in Redondo Beach, California on March 31, 1981.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:17 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/182dfca.html



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/THammon.jpg
Hammon, circa 1981.

Teresa Faye Hammon
Missing since May 8, 1981 from North Highlands, Sacramento County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics Date Of Birth: April 12, 1962
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4, 115 pounds
<LI>Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.

Circumstances of Disappearance
Hammon was living in a spare room of her boyfriend's mother's California home in May of 1981. She and her boyfriend had an argument over Mother's Day weekend 1981 and Hammon left the property. She did not take her car and most of her personal belongings were left at the house.
Hammon was scheduled to work at the Burger King in North Highlands, California at 6 AM the next morning. She never arrived for her shift and has not been seen nor heard from again. Hammon's purse, identification, makeup and several items of clothing were discovered shortly after her initial disappearance in a trash dumpster located behind the K-Mart store, which was across the street from the Burger King Hammon was employed.




http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/891dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/DMchan.jpg

Dena Viola Mchan
Missing since June 7, 1981 from Stockton, San Joaquin County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: October 23, 1962
Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6"; 130 lbs. (59 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; green eyes.
Clothing: She was wearing a thick white sweater, Jordache jeans that were three sizes too big for her, brown wool pants, nylons and open-toed heels.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Mchan was last seen on June 7, 1981 at a restaurant in Stockton, CA.
Foul play is suspected.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/962dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CLHall.jpg
Hall, circa 1981

Cheryl Lynn Hall
Missing since September 6, 1981 from Los Angeles, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: March 12, 1953
Age at Time of Disappearance: 28 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4; 105 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; brown eyes.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Hall was last seen in Los Angeles, California on September 6, 1981.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:21 PM
Doe NetWork Disappeared Females:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/793dfca.html



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/MBaca.jpg
Baca, circa 1982.

Maureen Russell Baca
Missing since August 21, 1982 from Adelanto, San Bernardino County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: June 3, 1950
Age at Time of Disappearance: 32 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4; 110 lbs
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; brown eyes.
Dentals: Available
Marks, Scars: 10-inch scar on her chest and an 8-inch scar on her inner right arm.
AKA: Maureen Russell Murfee


Circumstances of Disappearance
Baca was last seen August 21, 1982 in Adelanto, CA.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1640dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/JKKovacich.jpg
Kovacich, circa 1982

Janet Kay Kovacich
Missing since September 8, 1982 from Auburn, Placer County, California
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Age at Time of Disappearance: 27 years old
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Dark hair.
Marks, Scars: About a week before she disappeared, Janet had cosmetic surgery to remove scars and to have breast implants put in.
DNA: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Kovacich was last seen at her home in Auburn, California on September 8, 1982. She is a mother of two and the wife of a Placer County sheriff's sergeant who vanished from her home without a trace.
On the morning of September 8th, the children were sent to their Catholic school. At 8 a.m., Janet Kovacich phoned another private school in Lake of the Pines, north of Auburn, and made an appointment to see officials later that day to discuss transferring the children. She never showed up. Her husband told police he left the home at about 10:30 a.m. following a quarrel that morning with his wife. He said he ran errands and returned home at noon to find his wife missing.
Janet Kovacich's purse was also gone, but none of her credit cards were ever used. Police and other law enforcement agencies searched the canyon and caves around the proposed Auburn Dam site, used dogs to try to pick up a trail and flew helicopters with heat-detecting equipment in an effort to find her.
Police have never ruled out her husband as a suspect. The couple had been having marital problems, and police focused their attention on the sheriff's sergeant, questioning him repeatedly and conducting forensics examinations of his vehicle. He was not arrested.
Janet wanted out of the marriage. There were a lot of arguments between them leading up to the time when she disappeared.
She had already set up where she was going to take the kids. She wanted to go back to college and get a career. The surgery she had a week before she disappeared forced her to rely on others for transportation and would have made it difficult to run away.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1009dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/JGFlynn.jpg
Flynn, circa 1982

Justine Gabrielle Flynn
Missing since September 9, 1982 from San Francisco, San Francisco County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: June 24, 1961
Age at Time of Disappearance: 21 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4; 107 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Short brown hair; brown eyes.
Clothing: She was wearing a purple sweater, loose black pants and flat shoes with strap.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Flynn was last seen at the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco, California on September 9, 1982.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:23 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/913dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CArakul.jpg
Arakul, circa 1982

Cheri Arakul
Missing since October 1, 1982 from Los Angeles, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: March 10, 1950
Age at Time of Disappearance: 32 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3 (160 cm); 110 lbs (50 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: Asian female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
AKA: Cheri Oen; Ngarmpist Oen; Ngarmpist
Dentals: Not available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Arakul was last seen in Los Angeles, California on October 1, 1982. Foul play is suspected.


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1199dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/ASHiggins.jpg
Higgins, circa 1982

Ashley Standish Higgins
Missing since November 6, 1982 from Costa Mesa, Orange County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: December 2, 1962
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2"; 125 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Higgins was last seen in Costa Mesa, CA on November 6, 1982.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1080dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/SLynch.jpg
Lynch, circa 1983

Stacey Lee Lynch
Missing since February 5, 1983 from Marin Headlands, Marin County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: February 20, 1961
Age at Time of Disappearance: 21 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 6'0"; 145 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: Scar on right foot.
Jewelry: Wearing a Gridley Highschool ring class of 1979.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Lynch was last seen on February 5, 1983 in Marin, California. She and her boyfriend, James Boyle (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/541dmca.html) are believed to have fallen off the Marin Headland cliffs into the Pacific Ocean.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:26 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1729dfca.html



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/BJSzabo.jpg http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/BJSzabo1.jpg

Brenda Joan Allen-Szabo
Missing since March 1, 1983 from San Diego, San Diego County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: November 19, 1949
Age at Time of Disappearance: 33 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 120 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Light brown hair; blue eyes.
Marks, Scars, Tattoos: Tattoo of a "Harley" motorcycle missing both wheels on left wrist, various other tattoos, previously fractured arm, leg, finger, and back.
Other: Brenda has a medical condition.
AKA: Karen Blaha, Brenda Miller




Circumstances of Disappearance
Brenda was last seen in San Diego County, CA. She indicated to a family member she would be traveling to Texas to visit them but never arrived.
Originally from Dalla, Texas, she ran away from home in 1966, then crisscrossed the country from New York to California.
Szabo gave birth to four children, her first in 1966, her last in 1977. But her life was troubled, and she gave them up for adoption.
In California, Szabo's drug use continued, as did a series of arrests that landed her in and out of jail and prison, starting in 1969.
Szabo waitressed, danced in nightclubs, and sold drugs and sex, county records show. She changed Social Security numbers frequently and used a number of aliases, according to court documents and family members.
In the early 1980s, Szabo started pulling her life together. She moved to the Antelope Valley, enrolled in a community college and took courses in wildlife and forestry, transcripts show. She was off drugs and working as a dog groomer. Szabo told relatives she was heading back to Dallas. She said she would call in two weeks, but never did. She has not been seen since.





http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/876dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/MCavallo.jpg
Cavallo, circa 1983.

Miriam A. Cavallo
Missing since November 23, 1983 from Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: August 7, 1964
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'6" (168 cm.); 110 lbs. (50 kg.)
Distinguishing Characteristics: Hispanic female. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
Clothing: She was wearing pink tights, a white sweater vest and white tennis shoes.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Cavallo was last seen November 23, 1983 in Los Angeles, CA.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/761dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/AMAnderson.jpg
Anderson, circa 1983

Anna Marie Anderson
Missing since December 5, 1983 from Cypress, Orange County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: March 6, 1964
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5"; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; green eyes.
Marks, Scars, Tattoos: Tattoo on left hand of a cross on the web of the left or right thumb, tattoo on the left ankle that read H.D.V.O., surgical scar on abdomen 6-7 inches long. Missing gall bladder.
Clothing: She was last seen wearing blue jeans, a white shirt, black suede shoes and a white coat. She also wore an 18 inch Gold chain, diamond stud earrings and a yellow metal watch.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Anderson was last seen at her home in Cypress, CA on December 5, 1983.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:28 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/220dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/LPorter.jpg
Porter, circa 1984.

Leslie Anne Porter
Missing since January 19, 1984 from West Covina, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: November 1, 1959
Age at Time of Disappearance: 24 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 122 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
Marks, Scars: Porter has a mole on the right side of her face just above her mouth.
Clothing: She was last seen wearing a red, hooded sweatshirt with heart-shaped, rainbow buttons.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Porter was last seen on January 19, 1984 in West Covina, California by her husband. He left their residence for work and when he returned, Porter was not there. The door to the apartment was unlocked, Porter's purse and other personal items were still in the apartment. She never went to work that day, and her car was still parked in its space. Foul play is suspected.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/871dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/EMcDowell.jpg

Evelyn Joyce McDowell
Missing since January 19, 1984 from Woodland, Yolo County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: September 28, 1962
Age at Time of Disappearance: 21 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5" (165 cm); 115 lbs. (52 kg)
Dentals: Available.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Tattoos: Tattoo on left shoulder of a small blue heart.
Clothing: Blue denim jeans, dark oxford shoes, light colored shirt, and possibly a blue jacket.
Dentals: Available
AKA: Joyce McDowell


Circumstances of Disappearance
McDowell was last seen in front of the Yolo County Social Services office on West Main St. in Woodland, CA on January 19, 1984.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1146dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/LMDominelli.jpg
Dominelli, circa 1984

Linne Marie Dominelli
Missing since January 22, 1984 from Long Beach, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: September 4, 1950
Age at Time of Disappearance: 33 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2"; 110 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; hazel eyes.
Dentals: Available
AKA: Lynne Dominelli


Circumstances of Disappearance
Dominelli was last seen in Long Beach, CA on January 22, 1984. She went missing under suspicious circumstances.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:30 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont.:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/745dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/SSchneider1.jpg

Sally Anne Schneider
Missing since February 18, 1984 from San Anselmo, Marin County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: May 6, 1957
Age at Time of Disappearance: 26 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'4"; 130 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; hazel eyes.
Clothing: Grey tweed jacket, purple blouse, plaid purple pants, blue canvas shoes.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Schneider was last seen on February 18, 1984 in San Anselmo, California.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/629dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/CSmith.jpg
Smith, circa 1984

Christina R. Smith
Missing since April 24, 1984 from Venice, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: August 9, 1964
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'3"; 113 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Marks, Scars: Discoloration on right shoulder.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Smith was last seen April 24, 1984 in Venice, California.




http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/861dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/MDuncan.jpg
Duncan, circa 1984

Michelle Duncan
Missing since November 4, 1984 from Los Angeles, Los Angeles County, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: September 9, 1966
Age at Time of Disappearance: 18 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'7; 120 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; blue eyes.
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Duncan was last seen in Los Angeles, California on November 4, 1984. Foul play is suspected.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:32 PM
Doe Network Disappeared Females Cont:

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/988dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/GLCookson.jpg
Cookson, circa 1984

Gail Lenoar Cookson
Missing since November 25, 1984 from Sacramento, California.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: October 31, 1948
Age at Time of Disappearance: 36 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'2; 104 lbs.
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes. Cookson wears eyeglasses.
Clothing: Black and grey jacket, and a pair of jeans.
Dentals: Dental X-rays Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Cookson was last seen at her home in Sacramento, California on November 25, 1984. Foul play is suspected.



http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/796dfca.html


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/images/KBilly.jpg
Billy, circa 1984.

Kimberly Ann Billy
Missing since December 11, 1984 from Stockton, San Joaquin County, California.
Classification: Missing



Vital Statistics

Date Of Birth: September 24, 1965
Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 5'5; 130 lbs
Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Brown hair; brown eyes.
Tattoos: She has a tattoo on her abdomen and one on her left ankle.
AKA: Kimberly Ann Harr
Dentals: Available


Circumstances of Disappearance
Kimberly was last seen December 11, 1984 in Stockton, CA.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 01:35 PM
Ok. That does it for the years 1975 to 1984, except for young teens/children.

Masterj
07-27-2006, 01:57 PM
Ok. That does it for the years 1975 to 1984, except for young teens/children.
I looked through most of Florida's and came up with the matches I listed on the earlier pages. What other states are left - Oregon and Michigan, right?

We should also be looking at unidentified bodies.

Auggie21
07-27-2006, 02:22 PM
The missing adult (and teen) women from Oregon for that time period are

Benita Gay Chamberlin 1761DFOR
Irin Marie Meyer 1359DFOR
Linda Rachel Pleva 1414DFOR
Sherry Melissa Eyerly 1482DFOR
Kerry Lynelle Johnson 150DFOR
Laronda Marie Bronson 1619DFOR
Joan L Hall 1413DFOR

I don't know how to post the links to their pictures, maybe someone else can do that.

We have one unidentified female found in 1985, 100UFOR, but she is suspected to be a victim of the Green River Killer because she was found next to one of his victims.

Masterj
07-27-2006, 02:24 PM
Now I read he was also in Illinois and Texas. Anyone know how to find out when he was in each area?

mysteriew
07-27-2006, 03:28 PM
Now I read he was also in Illinois and Texas. Anyone know how to find out when he was in each area?

Here is what they are saying now about the places he has been. Southern California but others might be from Michigan, Florida, Texas, Oregon, Illinois, Kansas or Louisiana. The only dates I am seeing is that he left Michigan about 1978 or so and that he was in Fla. two years later.

Masterj
07-27-2006, 05:01 PM
I am convinced that this is just the tip of the iceburg. This guy is one of the most sadistic, evil people I have ever read about. Steve Huff posted a link to a court document that is one of the most disturbing things I have read.

This guy really enjoyed torturing people, and when you read the details of the rapes, you have to think that as far as he went and as brutal as he was, the people who are alive are extrememly lucky. You can tell just by reading the facts that the people who are dead did not go quickly or peacefully.
Just reading it convinced me that when you take into consideration the brutality that he was capable of to the people who lived, there has to be a lot of people who did not live.

Also I saw that someone said that they were not searching for boys, or preteens, if you look at the court records, he is capable of anything.

Anyway, here is the link:
(I should add that it is an extremely long read and some of it is brutally graphic.)

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ZUDbU1aKjpQJ:caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/s005707.pdf+%22Bill+Bradford%22%2B%22Shari+Miller% 22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=firefox-a
I shouldn't have read this article. What a disgusting excuse for a human being. Those poor victims. As for the ones who survived, they must have nightmares about this monster every night.

PrayersForMaura
07-27-2006, 05:35 PM
here is all I could come up with.

on doenetwork 319dfca and #40
http://doenetwork.us/cases/319dfca.html
http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=;s=40;p=news;dm=ss;w=400
on doenetwork 887dfva, Jane Puckett and #5
I thought of #40 right away when I clicked on the first link. I think that could be a match.

deespoohbear
07-27-2006, 05:36 PM
All right, I've been looking at photos so long my eyes are starting to cross. But I found two missing women that look similar to the photos:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/b/byron_elizabeth.html
and number 34

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/d/dominelli_linne.html
and number 10

Any of them any good? I think I am going to send in my previous match tomorrow. Cheri just looks too much like the woman for me to ignore.

ETA: I realized one of the woman disappeared before 1977, so I removed her.

I think those all look quite similar. I got chills when I looked at the first one. I would definitely submit it to law enforcement.

PrayersForMaura
07-27-2006, 05:37 PM
Becba, on the other link you posted, I actually think
http://doenetwork.us/cases/887dfva.html
could be #12.

PrayersForMaura
07-27-2006, 05:40 PM
I think those all look quite similar. I got chills when I looked at the first one. I would definitely submit it to law enforcement.I disagree with the first one looking like #34. I think she looks more like #37.

I actually think Amy Billig looks like #34.


http://www.charleyproject.org/images/b/billig_amy6.jpg

JDB
07-27-2006, 06:05 PM
Just read on CTV they now have ID 28 of the pics. Looks like another couple being Murdered.

Marie
07-27-2006, 06:22 PM
Just read on CTV they now have ID 28 of the pics. Looks like another couple being Murdered.

Do you have a link? I'm impressed that 28 have been ID'd already. And is there a comprhensive list somewhere which tells which ones have been ID'd?

JDB
07-27-2006, 06:27 PM
Do you have a link? I'm impressed that 28 have been ID'd already. And is there a comprhensive list somewhere which tells which ones have been ID'd?
Here is the link to the news. I still can not find a list anywhere.
http://www.courttv.com/news/2006/0727/women_alive_ap.html

PrayersForMaura
07-27-2006, 06:41 PM
She looks like #40, too: http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/861dfca.html

Marie
07-27-2006, 06:48 PM
Here is the link to the news. I still can not find a list anywhere.
http://www.courttv.com/news/2006/0727/women_alive_ap.html


Thank you!

Also, everyone should know that he has a record of indecent exposure and attempted rape dating back to 1971 - please check missing and unidentified from early 70's.

Hollow
07-27-2006, 09:11 PM
Masterj,
That resemblence is quite strong! The pic with the cowboy hat almost brought chills to me!I agree, this looks like Webb, it's not just the hat.

KrisNine
07-27-2006, 09:13 PM
I was just watching the local LA news (KNBC) and they have identified #8 as Tina Teets. She is alive and well in Riverside County, CA. They interviewed her and she said that picture was taken at a "Photo Day" at the Mission Inn. It was a day for girls who were aspiring to be models to meet with photographers. The picture was taken when she was 17 and had just had her braces removed. They also interviewed his ex-wife, Cindy Horton, identified in picture # 23.

Becba
07-27-2006, 09:21 PM
I thought of #40 right away when I clicked on the first link. I think that could be a match.
It is really hard to find matches. And I am suprised at how distinctive some of these womens features are but no match. I am taking that as a good indication they are alive and well.
I do think we should be looking in the late "60's - early '70's time frame for some of the older pictures. Those hairstyles are way out of date.

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 09:33 PM
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1675dfca.html Lynn Marjorie Bandringa, 21 yrs, 1967


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/428dfca.html Madeline Anna Babcock, 35 yrs, 1968


http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1734dfca.html Dixie Lee Arensen, 20 yrs, 1968

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/869dfca.html Cindy Lee Mellin, 19 yrs, 1970

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/836dfca.html Donna Ann Lass, 25 yrs, 1970

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/980dfca.html Robin Ann Graham, 18yrs, 1970

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/275dfca.html Christine Marie Eastin, 19 yrs, 1971

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/792dfca.html Ingrid Angela Anderson, 27 yrs, 1971

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1665dfca.html Antoinette Diane Marino, 29 yrs, 1972

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/960dfca.html Jo Anne Burmer,25 yrs, 1973

anthrobones
07-27-2006, 09:39 PM
I was just watching the local LA news (KNBC) and they have identified #8 as Tina Teets. She is alive and well in Riverside County, CA. They interviewed her and she said that picture was taken at a "Photo Day" at the Mission Inn. It was a day for girls who were aspiring to be models to meet with photographers. The picture was taken when she was 17 and had just had her braces removed. They also interviewed his ex-wife, Cindy Horton, identified in picture # 23.
I think you should add these to the Identified Per Police thread.

southerngirl
07-27-2006, 09:50 PM
31 have been identified now, of which 3 are murder victims.

http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/news/15139099.htm

KrisNine
07-27-2006, 10:02 PM
Thank you, anthrobones. I will do that now.

laini
07-27-2006, 11:57 PM
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1497dffl.html
Pamela Nater

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1498dffl.html
Nancy Leichner

I wonder if they could be #20 and #21.

laini
07-28-2006, 12:00 AM
Cynthia Gooding
www.doenetwork.us/cases/218dffl.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/218dffl.html)


resembles #49.


(Just like somebody else stated, I hate referring to these women as numbers)

Becba
07-28-2006, 02:06 AM
Nancy and #21 look like a good match.

Becba
07-28-2006, 02:10 AM
Cynthia Gooding
www.doenetwork.us/cases/218dffl.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/218dffl.html)


resembles #49.


(Just like somebody else stated, I hate referring to these women as numbers)Kind a looks like 38 to me.

Becba
07-28-2006, 02:19 AM
do you see a resemblence in 15 and 12? could they be the same person?and #4 looks to be the same girl in the picture of 53. She is on the right?
Tell me your thoughts.

laini
07-28-2006, 01:17 PM
I don't really think #12 and #15 look like the same person. But I could be wrong.

Jamie Grisim
www.doenetwork.us/cases/1375dfwa.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1375dfwa.html)

I think #39 is Jamie.

Auggie21
07-28-2006, 01:39 PM
Jamie Grisim
www.doenetwork.us/cases/1375dfwa.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1375dfwa.html)

I think #39 is Jamie.
I have a hard time figuring how Bradford could be involved in the Jamie Grisim case, since she was in Vancouver, but I have to admit, they look at LOT alike.

Here's a link to a story on Jamie

http://rebelcherokee.labdiva.com/jamiestory.html

southerngirl
07-28-2006, 02:34 PM
Here is an article about Cindy Horton and her 3 year marriage to Bradford. He threatened to kill her children in front of her, as well as her parents. She had a son with him.

What an evil man....

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9588383/detail.html

laini
07-28-2006, 02:44 PM
I have a hard time figuring how Bradford could be involved in the Jamie Grisim case, since she was in Vancouver, but I have to admit, they look at LOT alike.

Here's a link to a story on Jamie

http://rebelcherokee.labdiva.com/jamiestory.html
Thanks for the link to her story. :)

anthrobones
07-28-2006, 03:37 PM
http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html

That link tells which are identified. They must have not updated it though if 28 have been id'ed. Link says 7, 23, 24, 28 and 32 have been id'ed.

Scout
07-28-2006, 05:22 PM
From this Daily Breeze (http://www.dailybreeze.com/news/articles/3444161.html) article:


Two calls sent shudders through the homicide bureau.

Children of a woman found killed in 1980 said one of the women looked like their mother, Peavy said.

The family sent a photograph to detectives and it appears to match a face among the 50, Peavy said.

Another family in the Midwest called detectives and said one face looks like their 14-year-old daughter, who vanished after she ran away from home in 1975.

They also sent a photograph to detectives, who compared it with Bradford’s pictures and agreed it “looks pretty close,” Peavy said.



Many of the photographs found in his home showed women in sexually explicit poses. Peavy said investigators have more photos than those they have released publicly.

Besides Duhamel, detectives also suspect Bradford in the slaying of 34-year-old Patricia Dulong in Santa Monica in 1975, and the killing of Mischa Stewart, a 23-year-old gay man found strangled with a bra in 1982.

mysteriew
07-28-2006, 05:46 PM
I wonder which one is the 15 year old missing girl. None of the id'd ones look to be 15.

anthrobones
07-28-2006, 05:49 PM
I am assuming by now that this guy only had an interest in white women, even though 29 looks black to me??

mysteriew
07-28-2006, 05:55 PM
I am convinced that this is just the tip of the iceburg. This guy is one of the most sadistic, evil people I have ever read about. Steve Huff posted a link to a court document that is one of the most disturbing things I have read.

This guy really enjoyed torturing people, and when you read the details of the rapes, you have to think that as far as he went and as brutal as he was, the people who are alive are extrememly lucky. You can tell just by reading the facts that the people who are dead did not go quickly or peacefully.
Just reading it convinced me that when you take into consideration the brutality that he was capable of to the people who lived, there has to be a lot of people who did not live.

Also I saw that someone said that they were not searching for boys, or preteens, if you look at the court records, he is capable of anything.

Anyway, here is the link:
(I should add that it is an extremely long read and some of it is brutally graphic.)

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ZUDbU1aKjpQJ:caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/s005707.pdf+%22Bill+Bradford%22%2B%22Shari+Miller% 22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=firefox-a

I agree it is really disturbing. And I agree that they should be looking at young men also. Esp. those who might have a leaning to bisexuality or homosexuality.
One thing that stood out for me was the fact that he may have saved women's clothing, and later used the clothing in pictures he took of other women wearing the clothing. So it would pay to notice clothing descriptions of the missing people, and see if you can find the items in any of the pictures.

laini
07-29-2006, 12:21 AM
I think the young woman in #3 looks young/maybe teenager.

laini
07-29-2006, 12:24 AM
If #49 is Colleen Vanita Simpson, then she was 14 when she went missing. I believe I saw an article this week that her father thinks #49 is a picture of his daughter. (sorry- I don't have a link for that).

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/362dfia.html

laini
07-29-2006, 01:54 AM
The woman in #27 looks like

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/871dfca.html

and

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/593dftx.html

MagicRose99
07-29-2006, 10:37 AM
The woman in #27 looks like

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/871dfca.html

and

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/593dftx.html
I believe it was established that #27 was one of his ex wives...

mysteriew
07-29-2006, 12:16 PM
I feel this one is a REALLY strong match. Check out the pic of her in the cowboy hat?!?

Darlene Ann Webb #30

http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/316dffl.html

Darlene Webb tenatively identified as # 33
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/frtHEAD03072906.htm

laini
07-29-2006, 01:10 PM
I believe it was established that #27 was one of his ex wives...
I think #23 and #48 were ex-wives. I haven't seen that #27 was. I remember someone here posted that they would think #27 could be an ex-wife becuase she looks so unhappy. Is that what you are thinking of?

aussieblue
07-29-2006, 09:17 PM
I am convinced that this is just the tip of the iceburg. This guy is one of the most sadistic, evil people I have ever read about. Steve Huff posted a link to a court document that is one of the most disturbing things I have read.

This guy really enjoyed torturing people, and when you read the details of the rapes, you have to think that as far as he went and as brutal as he was, the people who are alive are extrememly lucky. You can tell just by reading the facts that the people who are dead did not go quickly or peacefully.
Just reading it convinced me that when you take into consideration the brutality that he was capable of to the people who lived, there has to be a lot of people who did not live.

Also I saw that someone said that they were not searching for boys, or preteens, if you look at the court records, he is capable of anything.

Anyway, here is the link:
(I should add that it is an extremely long read and some of it is brutally graphic.)

http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:ZUDbU1aKjpQJ:caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/californiastatecases/s005707.pdf+%22Bill+Bradford%22%2B%22Shari+Miller% 22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=5&client=firefox-a


OMG i just read all that (that was so sickening he is a monster) and i so agree with you dontpanic38, DO NOT RULE OUT MALES.

That is a MUST READ. its a long one though, he is one sick #@%^&$%#$@!#$%. Those others are so lucky to be alive!!!!


~aussieblue

mysteriew
07-30-2006, 01:40 AM
Bradford kept body parts as souvenirs.
http://www.amw.com/fugitives/case.cfm?id=39883

anthrobones
07-30-2006, 01:54 AM
I think the young woman in #3 looks young/maybe teenager.
I think she is also in #54 (on the left)

mysteriew
07-30-2006, 02:54 PM
I think she is also in #54 (on the left)

I think they are the same also. That is the one that I feel so sure that I have seen before on WS, as a cold case missing person. But I can't remember who she was.

anthrobones
07-30-2006, 03:48 PM
I think they are the same also. That is the one that I feel so sure that I have seen before on WS, as a cold case missing person. But I can't remember who she was.
This?
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1367dfmi.html

Masterj
07-30-2006, 05:56 PM
Darlene Webb tenatively identified as # 33
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/News/Headlines/frtHEAD03072906.htm
I truly hope Darlene is still alive, but it doesn't seem likely does it? Especially given the way she disappeared. My heart breaks for all of these women and their families.

jilly
07-30-2006, 07:06 PM
I truly hope Darlene is still alive, but it doesn't seem likely does it? Especially given the way she disappeared. My heart breaks for all of these women and their families.

Masterj - please check your pms

Masterj
07-30-2006, 11:10 PM
Masterj - please check your pms
Did you send me something? Nothing new in my inbox.

mysteriew
08-01-2006, 06:03 PM
This?
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/1367dfmi.html

The eyes and hair look different in that one.

kwatson696
08-01-2006, 10:05 PM
I don't know if this has already been posted but here it is anyway......:)



LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Investigators who released decades-old pictures of about 50 women photographed by a murderer said Thursday that they believe more than half the women are alive, but that three appear to be homicide victims.

Several of those photographed by death row inmate William Richard Bradford have yet to be identified, but Los Angeles County sheriff's investigators said they have tentatively identified 31 women ....more at this link.....

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MISSING_WOMEN?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US

LinasK
08-02-2006, 03:32 AM
I don't know if this has already been posted but here it is anyway......:)



LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Investigators who released decades-old pictures of about 50 women photographed by a murderer said Thursday that they believe more than half the women are alive, but that three appear to be homicide victims.

Several of those photographed by death row inmate William Richard Bradford have yet to be identified, but Los Angeles County sheriff's investigators said they have tentatively identified 31 women ....more at this link.....

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/MISSING_WOMEN?SITE=FLTAM&SECTION=US
I'm pleased that they've identified up to 31, they're making progress!

Scout
08-02-2006, 03:49 PM
Gloria Allred is representing the daughters of Donnalee Campbell Duhamel.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9612311/detail.html



Woman In Photo No. 4 Comes Forward

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9602212/detail.html

Auggie21
08-03-2006, 01:23 PM
The Sherrif has posted an updated photo with more identified pictures.

http://lacountymurders.com/info_wanted.cfm

Auggie21
08-03-2006, 01:41 PM
One of the members posted that picture 39 could be Jamie Grisim, who has been missing since 1971. I initially didn't think it was a good match, since Jamie went missing from Vancouver Washington and none of the information posted on her would suggest that she might have been an aspiring model or intent on traveling to California. I was waiting for more pictures to be identified by police. Number 39 has not yet been identified, and I am less hesitant to connect Jamie to Bradford because (a) he has been connected to the runaway from Iowa and (b) the news reports state that he was in Oregon for a time. (Vancouver is ten minutes away from Portland over the interstate bridge).

Jamie's sister lives in the area and can be contacted about the possible match. I am hesitant to do this unless there is some real possibility of connecting Jamie to girl #39. Can someone with more professional experience take a look at it? Attached are two web site's with good information and pictures about the case.

http://missing.puellula.com/Missing/Grisim.html

http://rebelcherokee.labdiva.com/jamiestory.html

anthrobones
08-03-2006, 03:54 PM
Left to identify:
1, 6, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 18, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 42, 43, 45, 50, 51, and 1 in 54.

http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html

Montanagirl
08-03-2006, 07:12 PM
One of the members posted that picture 39 could be Jamie Grisim, who has been missing since 1971. I initially didn't think it was a good match, since Jamie went missing from Vancouver Washington and none of the information posted on her would suggest that she might have been an aspiring model or intent on traveling to California. I was waiting for more pictures to be identified by police. Number 39 has not yet been identified, and I am less hesitant to connect Jamie to Bradford because (a) he has been connected to the runaway from Iowa and (b) the news reports state that he was in Oregon for a time. (Vancouver is ten minutes away from Portland over the interstate bridge).

Jamie's sister lives in the area and can be contacted about the possible match. I am hesitant to do this unless there is some real possibility of connecting Jamie to girl #39. Can someone with more professional experience take a look at it? Attached are two web site's with good information and pictures about the case.

http://missing.puellula.com/Missing/Grisim.html

http://rebelcherokee.labdiva.com/jamiestory.html
I think Jamie looks very similar to #6. Even down to the head tilt. JMO.

Angels_Not_Forgotten
08-03-2006, 10:44 PM
let me just start by saying how bad I am about trying to match pictures. I always tell myself people look a like when they dont but do you think that Maureen Russell Baca (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/793dfca.html) looks like number 30?

mfmangel1
08-03-2006, 10:57 PM
[QUOTE=Scout]Gloria Allred is representing the daughters of Donnalee Campbell Duhamel.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9612311/detail.html (http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9612311/detail.html)



I am confused about info in the above referenced news item:

"Donnalee Campbell Duhamel's decapitated body was found in Malibu in 1978. Her photo was among 54 that were found in William Richard Bradford's Mar Vista apartment 20 years ago but were never investigated. Los Angeles County sheriff's officials released the photos last week in hopes of learning more about the women."

But then states:

""Basically my mom just disappeared and was gone," said Duhamel's other daughter, Lisa Mora. "Never even had a funeral. There was no body. I want to know what happened to her."

Was the mother's body found or not? Was her picture in the group of photos or not? If the body was found, was it not returned to the family? :(

ETA: Okay, I see where the mother was identified in the photos, but why didn't the family receive the body?!?!

Scout
08-04-2006, 09:24 AM
[QUOTE=Scout]Gloria Allred is representing the daughters of Donnalee Campbell Duhamel.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9612311/detail.html (http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9612311/detail.html)



I am confused about info in the above referenced news item:

"Donnalee Campbell Duhamel's decapitated body was found in Malibu in 1978. Her photo was among 54 that were found in William Richard Bradford's Mar Vista apartment 20 years ago but were never investigated. Los Angeles County sheriff's officials released the photos last week in hopes of learning more about the women."

But then states:

""Basically my mom just disappeared and was gone," said Duhamel's other daughter, Lisa Mora. "Never even had a funeral. There was no body. I want to know what happened to her."

Was the mother's body found or not? Was her picture in the group of photos or not? If the body was found, was it not returned to the family? :(

ETA: Okay, I see where the mother was identified in the photos, but why didn't the family receive the body?!?!

I was confused by that, too. This might explain it.

Cached AP article (http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:PF746_Dlay4J:sosd.versifi.com:8180/adapt/servlet/nrp%3Fcid%3DRIM%26cmd%3Dsty%26pgn%3D1%26ino%3D5740 60%26cat%3DTop%2520Stories%26lno%3D1+Lisa+Mora&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3)

“My mom just disappeared, and now she's getting the attention I feel she deserves,” said Lisa Mora, 36, who was only 7 when her mother vanished. The family got confirmation of the death eight years later, she said.

It was 8 years from the time of her disappearance until the family learned what has happened to her. I guess the body must have been a Jane Doe all those years -- unable to be identified because the head was missing. Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNA#History_of_DNA_research) says that DNA profiling was developed in 1984. Apparently, Donnalee's body was identified in 1986.

mfmangel1
08-04-2006, 09:30 PM
Thanks for clearing that up for me, Scout.

How horrible for the daughters and the rest of the family....So very sad. :(

concernedperson
08-04-2006, 09:56 PM
T
[QUOTE=Scout]Gloria Allred is representing the daughters of Donnalee Campbell Duhamel.

http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9612311/detail.html (http://www.nbc4.tv/news/9612311/detail.html)



I am confused about info in the above referenced news item:

"Donnalee Campbell Duhamel's decapitated body was found in Malibu in 1978. Her photo was among 54 that were found in William Richard Bradford's Mar Vista apartment 20 years ago but were never investigated. Los Angeles County sheriff's officials released the photos last week in hopes of learning more about the women."

But then states:

""Basically my mom just disappeared and was gone," said Duhamel's other daughter, Lisa Mora. "Never even had a funeral. There was no body. I want to know what happened to her."

Was the mother's body found or not? Was her picture in the group of photos or not? If the body was found, was it not returned to the family? :(

ETA: Okay, I see where the mother was identified in the photos, but why didn't the family receive the body?!?!This is incredably sad to me.I just want to scream for all these years and misdirection.LE needs to take these cases further.

anthrobones
08-07-2006, 09:20 PM
1, 6, 11, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 42, 43, 45, 50, 51

http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html

Montanagirl
08-09-2006, 12:00 PM
1, 6, 11, 12, 13, 14, 18, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 42, 43, 45, 50, 51

http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html
Does anyone have any indication if the majority identified are alive or not?

anthrobones
08-09-2006, 09:45 PM
11 and 18 are identified.

As of 8/9/2006 these are left:
1, 6, 12, 13, 14, 19, 20, 21, 26, 27, 29, 30, 31, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 40, 42, 43, 45, 50, 51
http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html

PrayersForMaura
08-11-2006, 08:20 PM
32 and 44 are the same woman, right? They look alike.

anthrobones
08-11-2006, 08:27 PM
Does anyone have any indication if the majority identified are alive or not?
I think most are alive.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14026634/

anthrobones
08-11-2006, 08:28 PM
32 and 44 are the same woman, right? They look alike.
I think so to.

*02
08-14-2006, 02:24 PM
just a side note, the LA dept updates the photos on their link when someone is identified. http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/LADIES1.html
http://lacountymurders.com/wanted/pics/ladies1.jpg

*02
08-14-2006, 02:25 PM
sorry, I blew the margins.

Janet
08-29-2006, 12:46 PM
Hi,
I'm new to posting, but I've been reading alot. It's so hard to compare some of the women because when you look at the missing persons flyer they may have 3 photos and they look like different people themselves. My sister and I have been sending possibilities back and forth, but she doesn't see what I see and I don't see what she sees. I'm posting some of the women that I think look like some of them to see if anyone else agrees.


# 6 = http://doenetwork.us/cases/373ufca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/373ufca.html)
Cindy L. Haumann
http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860405400165 (http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860405400165)
or
Kristy Lynne Booth
http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860405000152 (http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860405000152)

#12= http://doenetwork.us/cases/509ufca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/509ufca.html)
Dean Marie Pyle Peters
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/8dfmi.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/8dfmi.html)

#14= http://doenetwork.us/cases/511ufca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/511ufca.html)
Christine Marie Eastin - Wearing red,white and blue tunic top
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/275dfca.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/275dfca.html)

#27= http://doenetwork.us/cases/518ufca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/518ufca.html)
Christina R. Smith
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/629dfca.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/629dfca.html)

#33=http://doenetwork.us/cases/522ufca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/522ufca.html)
If this is not Darlene Webb it may be Lisa Jane Borden
http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860219100362 (http://dojapp.doj.ca.gov/missing/detail.asp?FCN=1860219100362)
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/14dftx.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/14dftx.html)


#38 = http://doenetwork.us/cases/527ufca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/527ufca.html)
Diane Genice Dye
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/129dfca.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/129dfca.html)
or
Sherry Jean Pickle
http://doenetwork.us/cases/1099dfca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/1099dfca.html)


#42 = http://doenetwork.us/cases/531ufca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/531ufca.html)
Johanna Catherine Brighton
http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/856dfca.html (http://www.doenetwork.us/cases/856dfca.html)

#1 looks a little like Janel Irene Peters
http://doenetwork.us/cases/740dfca.html (http://doenetwork.us/cases/740dfca.html)

Ladies #21 and #38 look alike - just a wig on #21

laini
08-29-2006, 10:23 PM
Janet,


I think your matches look good. Some of these missing women I don't recall even seeing before.

I did read somewhere online where somebody thought #12 was a certain missing girl and after looking I thought they were right. I will try to find that to see what you think.

I don't think 21 and 38 are the same person (with wig in 21). The nose looks different to me. But I could be wrong. Does your sister post on websleuths? Welcome and hope you stick around! Your good at this!

:)

Janet
08-29-2006, 10:49 PM
no she reads them as I have for a while. I just became a member so I could post on the 2 yr. old boy missing from Leesburg, Fl and on Dalles McKinsey victims.

Janet
08-29-2006, 11:04 PM
I read #15 and #21 are unsolved homicide victims. Along with #28 was a homicide victim that was last seen with Bill Bradford then found decapitated.
#23 and #48 are ex-wives. And #49's mother called in to report that was her daughter that ranaway a long time ago and she never heard from her again.

anthrobones
09-03-2006, 02:01 AM
Left to identify:

1, 12, 13, 14, 20, 21, 26, 27, 29, 31, 33, 35, 36, 38, 40, 42, 43, 45, 51

Janet
09-03-2006, 02:16 AM
I thought #21 was a homicide victim. http://www.nbc4.tv/slideshow/news/9573778/detail.html?qs=1;s=21;dm=ss;p=news;w=400

Is there any information out there that names the newly identified are?

Left to identify:

1, 12, 13, 14, 20, 21, 26, 27, 29, 31, 33, 35, 36, 38, 40, 42, 43, 45, 51