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Jimthecarpetguy
08-03-2006, 05:30 PM
According to Darlies website in her habeas corpus petition Ms. Routier set out a variety of facts suggesting that Darin Routier was responsible for the murders and the assault,by acting alone or hiring another person to commit the crime.
I never look at this site but wanted to see if they were doing victory laps over yesterdays ruling.Is this new?It's the first time I've ever heard her defense using Darin as the perp.I assume some of the dna testing is going to be done on his jeans and the outcome might FINALLY show his involvement.
Jeana (DP)
08-03-2006, 05:38 PM
According to Darlies website in her habeas corpus petition Ms. Routier set out a variety of facts suggesting that Darin Routier was responsible for the murders and the assault,by acting alone or hiring another person to commit the crime.
I never look at this site but wanted to see if they were doing victory laps over yesterdays ruling.Is this new?It's the first time I've ever heard her defense using Darin as the perp.I assume some of the dna testing is going to be done on his jeans and the outcome might FINALLY show his involvement.
That's not new. Its their basis for asking that the DNA that they claim is evidence of innocence of Darlie be tested again using today's updated technology. I would think that her camp is doing victory laps over yesterday's ruling. Its a big step for her as it effectively removes her from being eligible for execution at this time.
Jimthecarpetguy
08-03-2006, 05:55 PM
That's not new. Its their basis for asking that the DNA that they claim is evidence of innocence of Darlie be tested again using today's updated technology. I would think that her camp is doing victory laps over yesterday's ruling. Its a big step for her as it effectively removes her from being eligible for execution at this time.
Years ago I hired this really slick lawyer to get me out of a tight one,we won the motion but when our appeal didn't cut the mustard w/the judge the prosecutors totally hammered me in what I deemed retribution for wasting the courts time.I think Darlie is going to be looking at the same scenario unless this testing has some real value.JMO.
Jeana (DP)
08-03-2006, 05:59 PM
Years ago I hired this really slick lawyer to get me out of a tight one,we won the motion but when our appeal didn't cut the mustard w/the judge the prosecutors totally hammered me in what I deemed retribution for wasting the courts time.I think Darlie is going to be looking at the same scenario unless this testing has some real value.JMO.
What are they going to do to her, execute her? No, seriously, I shouldn't joke about stuff like that. As a defendant in this country, she's entitled to use the system. Since there is new DNA technology available, everything that CAN be done to ensure that the right person is being executed SHOULD be done. After all, if they execute too many innocent individuals, or even come close to it, they'll finally do away with the death penalty. And, while I don't do flips over the thought of executing people, I think the penalty is necessary and should remain. The only way is to be sure that we only execute those who are guilty.
Jimthecarpetguy
08-03-2006, 06:34 PM
What are they going to do to her, execute her? No, seriously, I shouldn't joke about stuff like that. As a defendant in this country, she's entitled to use the system. Since there is new DNA technology available, everything that CAN be done to ensure that the right person is being executed SHOULD be done. After all, if they execute too many innocent individuals, or even come close to it, they'll finally do away with the death penalty. And, while I don't do flips over the thought of executing people, I think the penalty is necessary and should remain. The only way is to be sure that we only execute those who are guilty.
LOL Good point!I always thought that if the law of the land is the DP then let's get it on!If this testing erases the reasonable doubt I hope Texas will set a date for her destiny and put this one in the books.I am hoping it shines some light on Darins involvement so he can get a cozy little 8x10 himself.I'm not talking wedding pics.
Jeana (DP)
08-03-2006, 07:43 PM
LOL Good point!I always thought that if the law of the land is the DP then let's get it on!If this testing erases the reasonable doubt I hope Texas will set a date for her destiny and put this one in the books.I am hoping it shines some light on Darins involvement so he can get a cozy little 8x10 himself.I'm not talking wedding pics.
Amen darlin. Unfortunately, for some, it won't ever be enough, but at least those in charge of signing that death warrant can be at ease that everything that was done has been done.
StellaTravers
08-03-2006, 07:46 PM
I am hoping it shines some light on Darins involvement so he can get a cozy little 8x10 himself.I'm not talking wedding pics.LOL. If he is involved I hope this does indeed reveal that involvement. Of course if there was an elusive intruder, I do hope that is shown, but I would bet that the only evidence that is found is going to show more of the same-Darlie is guilty. I'll never forget all the hoopla about the bloody fingerprint that was going to prove someone else was the guilty party.
Delores
08-03-2006, 11:28 PM
[QUOTE=Jimthecarpetguy]LOL Good point!I always thought that if the law of the land is the DP then let's get it on!If this testing erases the reasonable doubt I hope Texas will set a date for her destiny and put this one in the books.I am hoping it shines some light on Darins involvement so he can get a cozy little 8x10 himself.I'm not talking wedding pics.[/QUOTE
I could not stop myself from laughing at the 8x10 comment
silentrose
08-05-2006, 05:19 PM
I am new to this site. Wow! so much info here I am more confused than I was on her guilt or innocence. I have been following this case for years. I wonder inf anyone knows if the family has ever brought in a Psychic to help with the case? I know this is controversial but has has been used in crime cases in the past. Also does anyone know where the video of Darlie's documentary "waiting for a miracle" can be found? Thanks!
Silentrose~
Delores
08-05-2006, 08:59 PM
yes they brought in a phsyhic I read .
mollymalone
08-06-2006, 11:12 PM
They did? Do you know what the result of bringing in the psychic was?
mollymalone
08-06-2006, 11:16 PM
Maybe I'm missing something, and this may sound stupid, but.. if Darin was trying to rescusitate the children, and he's leaning down to do so, going from child to child to help the children, he's probably going to get their blood on his jeans given the situation.
So what will the DNA testing prove if it's done on his pants that he was wearing?
silentrose
08-07-2006, 12:11 AM
I heard that when the police arrived a man was at the door and they asked him who he was. He said he was Darlie's husband and was getting help and when the officers came into the crime scene, Darin was there trying to recucitate the children. I am too interested in knowing about the physcic that was used. Any one have any info on that?
I heard that when the police arrived a man was at the door and they asked him who he was. He said he was Darlie's husband and was getting help and when the officers came into the crime scene, Darin was there trying to recucitate the children. I am too interested in knowing about the physcic that was used. Any one have any info on that?
You'd probably be better off to read the trial transcript on this. Darin met the first police officer on the front lawn..not inside...witnessed by the neighbour across the street who had just returned from work. There was no man at the door.
silentrose
08-07-2006, 07:35 PM
sorry....I read that in Media tried, justice denied
dolphin737
08-08-2006, 12:01 AM
I may have missed this in all the reading but, let me get this straight...He heard his wife screaming and he woke up out of a deep sleep and took the time to put on his jeans before he went down stairs....PLEASE...
I have always believed he was involved.
Becba
08-08-2006, 12:22 AM
I may have missed this in all the reading but, let me get this straight...He heard his wife screaming and he woke up out of a deep sleep and took the time to put on his jeans before he went down stairs....PLEASE...
I have always believed he was involved.
That is why he stood by her all these years. Now he seems to be drifting away and she seems to be pointing the finger at him. They were in on it together. Those children never had a chance.
sorry....I read that in Media tried, justice denied
NOt a very good or accurate source of information... read Gorsuch's and Officer Waddell's testimony in Volume 28 of the trial transcript.
silentrose
08-09-2006, 12:13 AM
Cami, I am new to this site and may be offering opinions and info as I perceived . I am not trying to offend or challenge anyone here, just tring to get in on the discussion.
Cami, I am new to this site and may be offering opinions and info as I perceived . I am not trying to offend or challenge anyone here, just tring to get in on the discussion.
Sorry...didn't mean to sound overbearing. I know you weren't challenging anyone.
St3phanie
08-09-2006, 07:02 PM
Do you know what the result of bringing in the psychic was?
Maybe I'm missing something, and this may sound stupid, but.. if Darin was trying to rescusitate the children, and he's leaning down to do so, going from child to child to help the children, he's probably going to get their blood on his jeans given the situation.
So what will the DNA testing prove if it's done on his pants that he was wearing?
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I would love to know these answers as well.... and I still don't understand why Darlie would have remained silent or protected Darin, if Darin was involved, all the way up until now. Why wait? Any ideas?
mollymalone
08-10-2006, 09:53 PM
Do you know what the result of bringing in the psychic was?
Maybe I'm missing something, and this may sound stupid, but.. if Darin was trying to rescusitate the children, and he's leaning down to do so, going from child to child to help the children, he's probably going to get their blood on his jeans given the situation.
So what will the DNA testing prove if it's done on his pants that he was wearing?
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I would love to know these answers as well.... and I still don't understand why Darlie would have remained silent or protected Darin, if Darin was involved, all the way up until now. Why wait? Any ideas?
The only reason I believe Darlie has ever hinted or outright claimed Darin was involved was because she found she couldn't dig herself out of the consequences of her own actions and has been seeking to throw him under the DR bus instead of herself.
silentrose
08-12-2006, 09:46 PM
Yeh, she has exhasuted all other avenues, funny how now her husband as of today is now someone she is pointing the finger at. Very STRANGE case. Nothing makes sense with it.
silentrose
08-12-2006, 09:49 PM
Delores, did you ever hear what the results were from bring in a phsyhic were? This is the 1st I have ever heard of that.
Delores, did you ever hear what the results were from bring in a phsyhic were? This is the 1st I have ever heard of that.
The Routiers hired the phsyhic. She was mentioned in one book but I don't remember trial testimony about her. Apparently she told them the murders were committed by someone who drove a white van..where have we heard that before? They must have lain low until 2002 and then grabbed Laci Peterson.
Kitty5001
08-14-2006, 02:20 PM
Where does it talk about Darlie pointing the finger at Darin right now? Or is this just because she wants to blood tested on his jeans?
muffinrose
08-15-2006, 04:41 PM
In some interview with Darlie some time back I hear her respond when asked about Darin's involvement.
(darlie) "I don't know any more about Darin. I just don't know what to think."
Like SilentRose I am new here too having followed this case for years.
Where does it talk about Darlie pointing the finger at Darin right now? Or is this just because she wants to blood tested on his jeans?
It was back in 2004, her Writ of Habeas Corpus
Link to the Writ (http://www.justicefordarlie.net/transcripts/writ.php)
The appeal was denied by Judge Francis
Kitty5001
08-16-2006, 04:53 PM
Wasn't that just something her attys threw together to name another reason why the evidence should be retested? It really wasn't literally meaning that she was accusing him right? I just viewed it as another way they could as a technicality they could get new testing done.
Wasn't that just something her attys threw together to name another reason why the evidence should be retested? It really wasn't literally meaning that she was accusing him right? I just viewed it as another way they could as a technicality they could get new testing done.
It was her State appeal. Designed to win her an appeal and hence a new trial.
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