Terry and Darleen Anderson Murder

[Dark Knight]

The Andersons were very brutally murdered in their Mongo, IN, home in October of 2005. There is now a website set up by Terry's daughter in hopes of finding who murdered them. This case has bugged me (and a lot of us) for awhile, so any ideas would be welcomed.

Here is the site, which includes a link to a story on the murder:

http://terryanddarleen.com/index.php

[docwho3]

I had to dig really hard to find any info at all about this murder case.
And even now all I know is the bare bones of the case.
They were beaten to death in separate locations on their property and found separately and guns and weapons (some of which were possibly more valuable than average guns and weapons would be) were stolen from the property.

He (terry) was an avid fisherman and outdoors type from what I could read and he was mentioned and his picture (a copy of the one shown on the family website) was shown on the website of at least one pro fisherman.

It was not mentioned in the news articles but I wonder if their bank cards were stolen and used after the crime? Someone obviously believed he had a worthwhile stash of something hidden on his property and was willing to beat both him and his wife to get the information. He was evidently a colorful character, according to his family website, and I wonder if there were any local legends about him having a stash of money or something else circulating among the local teens?

I have so little to go on here so pardon me if I step out and speculate (sort of thinking out loud.) No sign of forced entry could mean anything from he was surprised at the door to meaning he knew his attackers. Remembering a past case where someone was attacked in his own home by someone looking for a stash of money I remember that person knew his attacker because he had been a previous client of the victem. I wonder if there was some small relationship between the victems and the perps in this case. I wonder if they either knew them in some slight way (Maybe he had met them once while fishing or maybe the perps had done some work for him) or if the perps were relatives of someone that had known Terry and his wife. I don't think the relationship was a close one but just enough that he might have let them in his home if they showed up at the door (or maybe he didnt lock the door and they just walked in - who knows.)

The update I read said the police had several persons of interest in mind.

[docwho3]

I don't remember if it was listed or not but I wonder also if any of his fishing gear was missing or had been searched through?

[Dark Knight]

I had to dig really hard to find any info at all about this murder case.
And even now all I know is the bare bones of the case.
They were beaten to death in separate locations on their property and found separately and guns and weapons (some of which were possibly more valuable than average guns and weapons would be) were stolen from the property.

He (terry) was an avid fisherman and outdoors type from what I could read and he was mentioned and his picture (a copy of the one shown on the family website) was shown on the website of at least one pro fisherman.

It was not mentioned in the news articles but I wonder if their bank cards were stolen and used after the crime? Someone obviously believed he had a worthwhile stash of something hidden on his property and was willing to beat both him and his wife to get the information. He was evidently a colorful character, according to his family website, and I wonder if there were any local legends about him having a stash of money or something else circulating among the local teens?

I have so little to go on here so pardon me if I step out and speculate (sort of thinking out loud.) No sign of forced entry could mean anything from he was surprised at the door to meaning he knew his attackers. Remembering a past case where someone was attacked in his own home by someone looking for a stash of money I remember that person knew his attacker because he had been a previous client of the victem. I wonder if there was some small relationship between the victems and the perps in this case. I wonder if they either knew them in some slight way (Maybe he had met them once while fishing or maybe the perps had done some work for him) or if the perps were relatives of someone that had known Terry and his wife. I don't think the relationship was a close one but just enough that he might have let them in his home if they showed up at the door (or maybe he didnt lock the door and they just walked in - who knows.)

The update I read said the police had several persons of interest in mind.
Yeah, there isn't much online about it, but I am hoping the website will provide more in coming weeks.

I agree that the victims knew the murderer(s). They had to.

Thanks for your help!

[docwho3]

. . .I agree that the victims knew the murderer(s). They had to.

Thanks for your help!One thing that jumps out at me is that they were both beaten to death but were not found in the same place. It makes me think they were probably beaten to death in different places and that, in turn, makes me think this was a very deliberate interrogation as if someone was expecting and looking for a certain bit of info about where to find something and did not want the two victems to know what each other had said when giving answers.

But, of course, until more info is released that too is only speculation.

[Dark Knight]

I'm corresponding with the daughter of the victims. She feels strongly it is someone very close to her parents. She also said no family members seem supportive of her current efforts.

Anyone have any questions you'd like me to ask her?

[lymom3]

Unfortunately to me, and MOO, your second two sentences seem to speak volumes about the situation. I wish her luck but getting anyone to talk would seemingly be a real undertaking.

[Dark Knight]

Here is a direct quote from one of their daughter's e-mails to me:

In two weeks will be the one year anniversary of their horrific murder and each and every moment I breathe - I think of my dad and Darleen. I would be more than grateful to receive anything from ANYONE who would be willing to help me and my husband. I have not been getting any help from my dad's siblings or Darleen's brothers - not even a phone call (can't imagine why) saying that they are excited about all the efforts I have placed with the web-site, billboard and up-teen emails I have sent out these past 12months... Send me anything and everything you feel is worth it - and then some that you might not think - it still might work. I know in my heart that someone very very close to my dad and Darleen did this crime - I FEEL IT... I intend to NEVER stop trying to find out until they put me in the ground...

[docwho3]

I'm corresponding with the daughter of the victims. She feels strongly it is someone very close to her parents. She also said no family members seem supportive of her current efforts.

Anyone have any questions you'd like me to ask her?
I guess I posted my own questions earlier - lol.

Is there any evidence or info that L.E. is specifically looking for, that the many internet readers can be on the lookout to spot? (Such as certain guns or other gear showing up on Ebay or identification of any other evidence not currently explained?) She might want to confer with L.E. and make sure she does not release any info that they feel would jeopardize their investigation. Advise to keep excellent relations with L.E. even when it seems very hard to do so.

Other than that please let her know to have faith and know that others of us send our prayers and good wishes in support.

[mfmangel1]

Here is a direct quote from one of their daughter's e-mails to me:

In two weeks will be the one year anniversary of their horrific murder and each and every moment I breathe - I think of my dad and Darleen. I would be more than grateful to receive anything from ANYONE who would be willing to help me and my husband. I have not been getting any help from my dad's siblings or Darleen's brothers - not even a phone call (can't imagine why) saying that they are excited about all the efforts I have placed with the web-site, billboard and up-teen emails I have sent out these past 12months... Send me anything and everything you feel is worth it - and then some that you might not think - it still might work. I know in my heart that someone very very close to my dad and Darleen did this crime - I FEEL IT... I intend to NEVER stop trying to find out until they put me in the ground...
I feel very badly that the daughter's family is not supporting her in her efforts and she is having to face this alone.

Surely LE has verified all alibis for all family members and friends by now....Right?

[Dark Knight]

She has joined WS and will be taking part in this thread, she tells me.

Boy, she has told me some things that make it clear to me who is PROBABLY responsible, and it's a sad thought, for sure. But I will let her tell that and you can decide.

[Rosco]

I don't remember if it was listed or not but I wonder also if any of his fishing gear was missing or had been searched through?
No fishing gear was taken. Several guns- one my dad had always by him with a light on it..a cross bow - but the arrows were left behind, some collector coins that were hanging around in the barn on the table in a glass ashtray. Also some cash - like 6-10K. Wallet was open and still there.. empty of money. Dad was about to purchase/exchange his 3yr old boat for a new boat for his guide service. Had appointment that sat - told my husband the Tues before.. We were scheduled to go deer hunting open season - November 2005.. Dad said he would have his new boat by then and Eric and him would 'get it wet'. No money found. The safe was locked - no big money when they opened it. House was not overly trashed. Over kill is all I can tell everyone. Crushed them so I could only have closed caskets. I don't think Dad and Darleen felt a threat to the visitor's they had than night. I feel it was more than one person. Better more than one - now it's not a secret cuz two people know.

[Rosco]

I feel very badly that the daughter's family is not supporting her in her efforts and she is having to face this alone.

Surely LE has verified all alibis for all family members and friends by now....Right?
Thanks for those kinds thoughts. I am very sad that I am not getting any support. I do have my husband who hurts as I do. My Pastor brother is a great help spiritually. He's my preacher boy and gives me the words sometimes I need to get me thru another moment. My mother is also the best medicine. She loved dad - even after all the BS and years of pain in the past. She is a huge supporter! Bless my mom. I love her so much. LE is well aware of every move we have made and what personal issues we have been given. I think it builds a case and shows personallity. LE has ideas. It's a huge buzz in DA's office. I think that majority of other family feels either scared of the truth or would rather ignore. It's only speculation tho. I can't account for anyone's actions on why they do or not do things. But - It's not in my nature to ignore.

[Dark Knight]

FYI - Rosco is the daughter of the victims. Thanks for joining us, Rosco.

I just read your latest e-mail. There is little doubt in my mind they knew the victims very well. Maybe you can relay some of that same info on here and let others chime in. Or I can C and P with your permission.

[Dark Knight]

It should also be noted that it was another daughter, I'll call her "A", who found the bodies and called the police. She is continuing to live in that same house and had rented part of it out to someone within 3 weeks of the murders. She was quoted at the time of the murders in a local newspaper that she would make her parents dreams her dreams, such as a full wrap around porch, tear down the barn, new siding, new curtains, new furniture, electrical work, and now a security system, all in memory of them. (I still have the newspaper article.)

[gardenmom]

Roscoe, I just got done reading the stories you wrote about Terry and Darlene. I am very touched. You really made Terry's personality come alive for me. I really hope that their killers are found, and quickly.

Was the money that was stolen to be used for the purchase of a boat? Was he selling a boat? Did someone perhaps come under false pretenses to buy the boat? It woudn't be the first time that happened.

BTW, I am so impressed with your career choice of sign language interpreting. That is something I am also interested in. I've taken ASL 1, in CA, but then we moved to NC and all they have in my college is SEE. I refuse to take it. I may take a class online.

[blaize]

Thanks for those kinds thoughts. I am very sad that I am not getting any support. I do have my husband who hurts as I do. My Pastor brother is a great help spiritually. He's my preacher boy and gives me the words sometimes I need to get me thru another moment. My mother is also the best medicine. She loved dad - even after all the BS and years of pain in the past. She is a huge supporter! Bless my mom. I love her so much. LE is well aware of every move we have made and what personal issues we have been given. I think it builds a case and shows personallity. LE has ideas. It's a huge buzz in DA's office. I think that majority of other family feels either scared of the truth or would rather ignore. It's only speculation tho. I can't account for anyone's actions on why they do or not do things. But - It's not in my nature to ignore.Hello Rosco. I'm very sorry for your loss. I have a few questions for you if you don't mind please?

1. Was the area where Terry & Darlene lived rural or semi-rural?

2. How close was their nearest neighbour?

3. Did any of the neighbours notice any unusual comings & goings to or from the property?

4. Had there been any similar crimes in the surrounding area during the previous six months to a year, with or without violence?

5. Is it possible to find out who else knew that Terry was going to buy a new boat and had a large amount of cash on the premises within the timeframe of the few days before he was to purchase the boat?

6. Forgive the crudity & bluntness of this next question please. Did the coroner or law enforcement give any indication of who was killed first? And if so were they able to indicate if the second victim was fleeing or had been forced to watch the first victim's demise and then had to take the murderers to where ever the money or other valuables were stored?

7. Have any of the stolen 'items turned up', especially any of the guns?

8. Is it possible that other family members are afraid of someone with a history of violence or abuse and this is holding them back from helping?

Again sorry for your loss and I hope LE track down whoever murdered Terry & Darlene soon.

blaize

[Dark Knight]

Here are some links to the original newspaper reports at the time of the murder, in decending chronological order (more recent at top)

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/27/the_news-sun/news-99051.txt (http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/27/the_news-sun/news-99051.txt)

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/23/the_news-sun/news-98808.txt

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/12/28/the_news-sun/news-102563.txt

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/22/herald-republican/news-98731.txt

[blaize]

Here are some links to the original newspaper reports at the time of the murder, in decending chronological order (more recent at top)

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/27/the_news-sun/news-99051.txt (http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/27/the_news-sun/news-99051.txt)

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/23/the_news-sun/news-98808.txt

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/12/28/the_news-sun/news-102563.txt

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/22/herald-republican/news-98731.txtSorry DK, if you're not a paid subscriber to their print editions you have to pay for access to read their archives so maybe you could post a synopsis of the info in the articles please?

blaize

[Rosco]

Hello Rosco. I'm very sorry for your loss. I have a few questions for you if you don't mind please?

1. Was the area where Terry & Darlene lived rural or semi-rural?

2. How close was their nearest neighbour?

3. Did any of the neighbours notice any unusual comings & goings to or from the property?

4. Had there been any similar crimes in the surrounding area during the previous six months to a year, with or without violence?

5. Is it possible to find out who else knew that Terry was going to buy a new boat and had a large amount of cash on the premises within the timeframe of the few days before he was to purchase the boat?

6. Forgive the crudity & bluntness of this next question please. Did the coroner or law enforcement give any indication of who was killed first? And if so were they able to indicate if the second victim was fleeing or had been forced to watch the first victim's demise and then had to take the murderers to where ever the money or other valuables were stored?

7. Have any of the stolen 'items turned up', especially any of the guns?

8. Is it possible that other family members are afraid of someone with a history of violence or abuse and this is holding them back from helping?

Again sorry for your loss and I hope LE track down whoever murdered Terry & Darlene soon.

blaize

Thank you for your prayers.

- My father lived on 11 aches. Three large dwellings on the land and rest was woods.

-Nearest neighbor is well over 4 city blocks away - across a big feild of corn. They lived there over 35yrs.

- neighbors heard/saw nothing - I was also told that LE never interviewed neighbors. Asking questions -knocking on doors. Strange huh?

- FIRST homiside in LaGrange County is 4yrs... no similar.

- Dad would not have sold boat to stranger. Trusted only dealership. Had personal relation with sales person at dealership. Had spoken just that week to come into shop and look

- Coroner ruled Darleen died first. Just cuz she was found first. They can't tell time of death - I think it was within minutes of each other. Darleen was inside and warm - decomp would come sooner - Dad was on concrete and it was Oct - cold outside..

- nothing showing up as far as the guns or anything else - far as I know. LE does not share too much of that info. But that Larry Carpenter charector the other week has me thinking he knows something - he is connected someway with that person living in the house. Both came from Sturgis and FLA - both were previously in jail for drug charges.

- I think that other family members have longtime issues with feelings about my dad and darleen. Others have not been all that close to me in the 20yrs nor to dad. History of money and issues that stem back 40yrs ago - It's history to me and some people just can't set it aside I am guessing. I am shocked tho about darleen's brothers. One would like to think that they would step up to plate and help me out.

I feel that LE and help with the public the parties will be caught and conficted.... I truly will work until my body shuts down...and then my family will continue the fight for justice!!!

I will continue to read this and reply as I can...

My heart hangs low but my head is held high and I intend to keep it there!

[gardenmom]

Sorry DK, if you're not a paid subscriber to their print editions you have to pay for access to read their archives so maybe you could post a synopsis of the info in the articles please?

blaize
I even tried bugmenot password and still cannot get in.

[blaize]

Thank you for your prayers.

- My father lived on 11 aches. Three large dwellings on the land and rest was woods.

-Nearest neighbor is well over 4 city blocks away - across a big feild of corn. They lived there over 35yrs.

- neighbors heard/saw nothing - I was also told that LE never interviewed neighbors. Asking questions -knocking on doors. Strange huh?

- FIRST homiside in LaGrange County is 4yrs... no similar.

- Dad would not have sold boat to stranger. Trusted only dealership. Had personal relation with sales person at dealership. Had spoken just that week to come into shop and look

- Coroner ruled Darleen died first. Just cuz she was found first. They can't tell time of death - I think it was within minutes of each other. Darleen was inside and warm - decomp would come sooner - Dad was on concrete and it was Oct - cold outside..

- nothing showing up as far as the guns or anything else - far as I know. LE does not share too much of that info. But that Larry Carpenter charector the other week has me thinking he knows something - he is connected someway with that person living in the house. Both came from Sturgis and FLA - both were previously in jail for drug charges.

- I think that other family members have longtime issues with feelings about my dad and darleen. Others have not been all that close to me in the 20yrs nor to dad. History of money and issues that stem back 40yrs ago - It's history to me and some people just can't set it aside I am guessing. I am shocked tho about darleen's brothers. One would like to think that they would step up to plate and help me out.

I feel that LE and help with the public the parties will be caught and conficted.... I truly will work until my body shuts down...and then my family will continue the fight for justice!!!

I will continue to read this and reply as I can...

My heart hangs low but my head is held high and I intend to keep it there!Hello Rosco, thanks for replying so quickly.

It sounds very curious that LE did not interview neighbours perhaps they too already have a suspect closer to home in mind too?

My question about similar crimes in the area should have included burgalaries too but in Terry & Darlene's case it just sounds too convenient, that someone knew there was a large amount of cash on the premises at the time and that within a few days the money would no longer be there.

If I can piece together from what the coroner thinks it would seem that someone was let into or forced their way into the house? Were their signs of forced entry?

Who is Larry Carpenter? Did the person who is now living in the house have a previous relationship or connection with Terry & Darlene? Be very careful about asking Larry Carpenter questions, if you suspect he knows something alert the detective in charge of the investigation rather than tackle him yourself.

Money issues and estrangements aren't unusual between family members but yes you would hope that people would pull together at a time like this. Could it be that Darlene's brothers are handling it their own way and staying contact with LE?

I thnk you're right about LE finding out who did this but in the meantime you should know that the people here at websleuths are a god lot and will weigh in and offer support and suggestions where possible.

Keep your chin up Rosco.

blaize

[blaize]

I even tried bugmenot password and still cannot get in.Perhaps someone with access could synopsize the information at the links and post it here in this forum please.

blaize

[Dark Knight]

Sorry DK, if you're not a paid subscriber to their print editions you have to pay for access to read their archives so maybe you could post a synopsis of the info in the articles please?

blaize
Ah, crap. I'll see if I can get permission to reprint the entire articles. In the meantime I will try to C and P the more interesting stuff.

[Dark Knight]

Rosco also told me that their dog was put on a chain, and it is NEVER on a chain. It always had free reign of the property.

That sounds like some other murders we've talked about, eh?

[blaize]

Ah, crap. I'll see if I can get permission to reprint the entire articles. In the meantime I will try to C and P the more interesting stuff.Thanks DK that'd be helpful.

blaize

[blaize]

Rosco also told me that their dog was put on a chain, and it is NEVER on a chain. It always had free reign of the property.

That sounds like some other murders we've talked about, eh?That is interesting. Did Terry or Darlene chain the dog becase they knew the person visiting? Hmm I wonder would it be worthwhile to check the phone records for all incoming calls to the landline and mobiles in the few days before the murders to see if someone called ahead for whatever reason?

blaize

[Rosco]

Hello Rosco, thanks for replying so quickly.

It sounds very curious that LE did not interview neighbours perhaps they too alread have a suspect closer to home in mind too?

My question about similar crimes in the area should have included burgalaries too but in Terry & Darlene's case it just sounds too convenient, that someone knew there was a large amount of cash on the premises at the time and that within a few days the money would no longer be there.

If I can piece together from what the coroner thinks it would seem that someone was let into or forced their way into the house? Were their signs of forced entry?

Who is Larry Carpenter? Did the person who is now living in the house have a previous relationship or connection with Terry & Darlene? Be very careful about asking Larry Carpenter questions, if you suspect he knows something alert the detective in charge of the investigation rather than tackle him yourself.

Money issues and estrangements aren't unusual between family members but yes you would hope that people would pull together at a time like this. Could it be that Darlene's brothers are handling it their own way and staying contact with LE?

I thnk you're right about LE finding out who did this but in the meantime you should know that the people here at websleuths are a god lot and will weigh in and offer support and suggestions where possible.

Keep your chin up Rosco.

blaize
Larry carpenter is the charector that was just arrested for false/misslead information to the LE. See any local paper about a week ago. Already in custody - talks smack...seems to know nothing tho. LE said. I think there is a connection with Larry Mack (guy living in house) and Larry Carpenter (guy arrested last week) both from Sturgis and FLA.. arrested for drug possesion and other felony issues. What connection to A.. I don't know. Only Mack is friend of x-boyfriend - who is 21yrs old. Mack is well into his 50's. Connection there maybe drugs

No forced entery.. no indication of struggle. no defence wounds. suprised...

Alot of drug busts in the area. Meth seems to be the choice around those parts. Read alot about the side effects of the Meth drug. Can really scare you.

[Dark Knight]

Larry carpenter is the charector that was just arrested for false/misslead information to the LE. See any local paper about a week ago. Already in custody - talks smack...seems to know nothing tho. LE said. I think there is a connection with Larry Mack (guy living in house) and Larry Carpenter (guy arrested last week) both from Sturgis and FLA.. arrested for drug possesion and other felony issues. What connection to A.. I don't know. Only Mack is friend of x-boyfriend - who is 21yrs old. Mack is well into his 50's. Connection there maybe drugs

No forced entery.. no indication of struggle. no defence wounds. suprised...

Alot of drug busts in the area. Meth seems to be the choice around those parts. Read alot about the side effects of the Meth drug. Can really scare you.
Larry Mack, who moved into your murdered parents house within 3 weeks, is a friend of the victim's daughter's ("A") ex-boyfriend????? The same daughter who "found" the bodies?

In the newspaper report, "A" said when she called 911 she told them Darleen had a gunshot wound to the head. But wouldn't such a savage beating look far different from a gunshot? You used the word "crushed" to describe their heads.

Where did "A" receive the money for all the renovations she told the newspaper she was going to do to the house, and did she ever do them?

[Dark Knight]

Larry carpenter is the charector that was just arrested for false/misslead information to the LE. See any local paper about a week ago. Already in custody - talks smack...seems to know nothing tho. LE said. I think there is a connection with Larry Mack (guy living in house) and Larry Carpenter (guy arrested last week) both from Sturgis and FLA.. arrested for drug possesion and other felony issues. What connection to A.. I don't know. Only Mack is friend of x-boyfriend - who is 21yrs old. Mack is well into his 50's. Connection there maybe drugs

No forced entery.. no indication of struggle. no defence wounds. suprised...

Alot of drug busts in the area. Meth seems to be the choice around those parts. Read alot about the side effects of the Meth drug. Can really scare you.
Also, Terry was struck from behind, but you told me Darleen was struck from the front and would have seen her attacker. It seems odd that she would not have any defensive wounds. Like she knew her attacker and wasn't threatened by them.

[Tom'sGirl]

[QUOTE=Dark Knight]FYI - Rosco is the daughter of the victims. Thanks for joining us, Rosco.
Is Rosco Sherry of Chicago who posted here?

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/mongo-in/T4JF661MSE95QGA40 (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/mongo-in/T4JF661MSE95QGA40)

[Tom'sGirl]

[QUOTE=blaize] Who is Larry Carpenter?
Felon accused of lying to detectives in Mongo slayings
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/15628238.htm (http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/15628238.htm)

Former Sturgis man charged with misleading Mongo murder investigation
http://wthd.net/content/view/2356/2/ (http://wthd.net/content/view/2356/2/)

[Dark Knight]

[QUOTE]
Felon accused of lying to detectives in Mongo slayings
http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/15628238.htm (http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/15628238.htm)

Former Sturgis man charged with misleading Mongo murder investigation
http://wthd.net/content/view/2356/2/ (http://wthd.net/content/view/2356/2/)
That's the dude.

[Dark Knight]

[QUOTE]
Is Rosco Sherry of Chicago who posted here?

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/mongo-in/T4JF661MSE95QGA40 (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/mongo-in/T4JF661MSE95QGA40)
If it is, maybe she doesn't want her name or location posted on here. :crazy: :slap:

[Tom'sGirl]

If it is, maybe she doesn't want her name or location posted on here. :crazy: :slap:
I just found it strange that at topix the name was posted as Darlene, and here she is typing Darleen :waitasec:

[Dark Knight]

I just found it strange that at topix the name was posted as Darlene, and here she is typing Darleen :waitasec:
It's Darleen. Darleen isn't her biological mother, Terry was her biological dad, however.

[Tom'sGirl]

It's Darleen. Darleen isn't her biological mother, Terry was her biological dad, however.
I know that it isn't her biological mother, but last summer she spelled it wrong, so maybe she didn't know her dad's wife all that well :confused:

[Dark Knight]

I know that it isn't her biological mother, but last summer she spelled it wrong, so maybe she didn't know her dad's wife all that well :confused:
It's an easy mental mistake to make I figure. Is it relevant to the case?

[Tom'sGirl]

It's an easy mental mistake to make I figure. Is it relevant to the case?
I don't know if it is or not, I just thought it strange that's all.

[blaize]

I don't know if it is or not, I just thought it strange that's all.The important thing is that on topix and here the posters are looking for help and information in solving these murders.

This Larry Carpenter character seems like a nasty piece of work though doesn't he?

And the other one Larry Mack, the man renting part of the house from "A" is also involved in drugs and connected in some way to "A" ex-boyfriend? I assume LE are aware of all these connections to the dark underbelly of society?

If it's not too indelicate a question to ask but where was "A" living when the murders occurred?

If "A" did not live with Terry & Darleen, did her ex-boyfriend have any reason to visit their house at any stage?

Sorry for all the questions but I'm trying to get a clear picture of what could have happened.

blaize

[Rosco]

[QUOTE]
Is Rosco Sherry of Chicago who posted here?

http://www.topix.net/forum/city/mongo-in/T4JF661MSE95QGA40 (http://www.topix.net/forum/city/mongo-in/T4JF661MSE95QGA40)
It is me.

[Rosco]

I know that it isn't her biological mother, but last summer she spelled it wrong, so maybe she didn't know her dad's wife all that well :confused:
I knew my family very well. Fact - Darleen always spelled MY name wrong too. Spell-check always changes the name too - not the traditional way of spelling.

[Rosco]

It's an easy mental mistake to make I figure. Is it relevant to the case?
No.. not relevant to a double homiside of my family members. I was as close as any distance relationship can be. - if not closer as I spoke to them every week... I could walk around their house nude if I wanted - we were as close as that...Thank you Dark Knight. Darleen ALWAYS spelled my name wrong on b-day cards and christmas. Not the traditional way. Never thought about the spelling when I was typing the forum... I was only trying to get the information out.. The cross on my fathers property that his long life friend of 40yrs also spelled darleen's name wrong.. Just happens sometimes.

[Rosco]

If it is, maybe she doesn't want her name or location posted on here. :crazy: :slap:
I have no problem of my name being in public. I am not ashamed nor afraid.

[Rosco]

The important thing is that on topix and here the posters are looking for help and information in solving these murders.

This Larry Carpenter character seems like a nasty piece of work though doesn't he?

And the other one Larry Mack, the man renting part of the house from "A" is also involved in drugs and connected in some way to "A" ex-boyfriend? I assume LE are aware of all these connections to the dark underbelly of society?

If it's not too indelicate a question to ask but where was "A" living when the murders occurred?

If "A" did not live with Terry & Darleen, did her ex-boyfriend have any reason to visit their house at any stage?

Sorry for all the questions but I'm trying to get a clear picture of what could have happened.

blaize
Amen Blaize. Thanks.

TOTALLY nasty piece of work Blaize - that larry carpenter... Just got me boiling when I heard about where he came from and that he's even making stories up about my family and the murders...

Larry Mack - his connection is a friend of x-boyfriend... LE fully aware of all relationships by this time in the ball-game already. I make sure that LE and DA is aware of every piece of information - to show charector and actions from parties AFTER the fact...

A- was living with x-boyfriend on a lake in a small little trailer.. JUST moved out together a few months prior. My family visited dad and darleen July 2005 and seen her/x-boyfriends place.. She still had room at dad's place - still her home as far as darleen as concerned.. thought she would come to her sences maybe one day... Ate.. watched TV - hung out still at dad's place..BOTH did... x-boyfriend was treated like family member so anytime him to visit would never come to question. X-boyfriend also worked with Dad.. same company.. worked together - close...Dad helps x-boyfriend out of a few 'jams' with the law.. not drug stuff tho - just traffic stuff and DL issues.

[Dark Knight]

Amen Blaize. Thanks.

TOTALLY nasty piece of work Blaize - that larry carpenter... Just got me boiling when I heard about where he came from and that he's even making stories up about my family and the murders...

Larry Mack - his connection is a friend of x-boyfriend... LE fully aware of all relationships by this time in the ball-game already. I make sure that LE and DA is aware of every piece of information - to show charector and actions from parties AFTER the fact...

A- was living with x-boyfriend on a lake in a small little trailer.. JUST moved out together a few months prior. My family visited dad and darleen July 2005 and seen her/x-boyfriends place.. She still had room at dad's place - still her home as far as darleen as concerned.. thought she would come to her sences maybe one day... Ate.. watched TV - hung out still at dad's place..BOTH did... x-boyfriend was treated like family member so anytime him to visit would never come to question. X-boyfriend also worked with Dad.. same company.. worked together - close...Dad helps x-boyfriend out of a few 'jams' with the law.. not drug stuff tho - just traffic stuff and DL issues.
So the dog, which was put on a chain, would trust their daughter's ex-boyfriend enought to let him him, or A, put him there? And neither of your parents would think twice about him being there, either? And he would have full access to the house. etc. Would they both know your parents Thursday night routines as well as you did?

Sounds like after the murder, A's living conditions improved greatly. She got the house. Did she get the renovations done that she told the newspaper she was getting done "making their dreams her dreams?"

[Rosco]

So the dog, which was put on a chain, would trust their daughter's ex-boyfriend enought to let him him, or A, put him there? And neither of your parents would think twice about him being there, either? And he would have full access to the house. etc. Would they both know your parents Thursday night routines as well as you did?

Sounds like after the murder, A's living conditions improved greatly. She got the house. Did she get the renovations done that she told the newspaper she was getting done "making their dreams her dreams?"

Neither would think twice about X's being there - even without A... They would both know routine. Dog would trust both. I just can't imagine...

[blaize]

Neither would think twice about X's being there - even without A... They would both know routine. Dog would trust both. I just can't imagine...So even though at one stage LE said that they couldn't rule the murders out as a random crime the actual facts point to someone very close to home.

That's sad really. I have no doubt from reading between the lines of your posts Rosco that LE have narrowed the scope of their investigations and that the individuals concerned are aware that they're persons of interest.

blaize

[Dark Knight]

Neither would think twice about X's being there - even without A... They would both know routine. Dog would trust both. I just can't imagine...
If you want justice, you will have to imagine things you normally wouldn't, or would prefer not to.

[Dark Knight]

Rosco, didn't you tell me that after the murders "A" told you to "butt out" when you pursued justice and basically banned you from the property? Despite being so close for so long?

[Rosco]

So even though at one stage LE said that they couldn't rule the murders out as a random crime the actual facts point to someone very close to home.

That's sad really. I have no doubt from reading between the lines of your posts Rosco that LE have narrowed the scope of their investigations and that the individuals concerned are aware that they're persons of interest.

blaize
I too can read between line on LE info. Also, can't hide the facts of how parties acted during and after buried family. I think it paints a picture already.

[Rosco]

Rosco, didn't you tell me that after the murders "A" told you to "butt out" when you pursued justice and basically banned you from the property? Despite being so close for so long?
she did tell me to butt out. Actually it was her x- that told me thru him to her to me. She would not accept my phone calls.. Told other family members that we we stold from her.. before we left after the service. LIE.. I had a 120lb dog in my blazer along with a toddler w/baggage. Sorry - I was under the impression I would be visiting that house many more times... so sorry to say I did not take anything.. BOY wish I would have.. cuz now I can't even get anything that actually belonged to me or my husband - like all his hunting gear... LE said it's civil.. have to take her to court.. what a line of crappp... Glad I did obtain some personal belonings that last time - just small stuff - but worth GOLD to me now.

[Rosco]

That is interesting. Did Terry or Darlene chain the dog becase they knew the person visiting? Hmm I wonder would it be worthwhile to check the phone records for all incoming calls to the landline and mobiles in the few days before the murders to see if someone called ahead for whatever reason?

blaize
I am certain LE looked at all phone records and cell phones from X and A and everyone... I was told.

[Rosco]

If you want justice, you will have to imagine things you normally wouldn't, or would prefer not to.
Yes sir.. I have to imagine.. and I even write about it. It's unbelievable hard!!! It's totally impossible to think onother direction... there just seems to be no other reasoning for some actions by others during and after...

[HollywoodBound]

If you don't mind me asking was the same weapon used for both victims and was it taken or left at the scene?

Were the ex and "A" able to supply any sort of alibi?

[Dark Knight]

If you don't mind me asking was the same weapon used for both victims and was it taken or left at the scene?

Were the ex and "A" able to supply any sort of alibi?
No murder weapon was ever found. I don't know if they ever identified it beyond a blunt object. Although I thought I heard it was a hammer. Rosco may know.

[Dark Knight]

Rosco, I'm sorry to be so blunt, but there had to be copious amounts of blood, due to the viciousness of the attack (an attack of rage, we had discussed.) Where there ANY footprints or handprints or anything left behind? I would think even the persons hand, arm, or weapon would drip blood leaving a trail. How could it not?

[Rosco]

If you don't mind me asking was the same weapon used for both victims and was it taken or left at the scene?

Were the ex and "A" able to supply any sort of alibi?
no weapon found. nothing for assuption on type of weapon as far as LE told me. They might know more from coroner report which is off limits. I am sure LE knows plenty but will not share to family.

Alibi's for both are themselves and some other charectors they were with that evening. Appears they have alibi... Soldid??? LE is not going down that road with family.

[Rosco]

Rosco, I'm sorry to be so blunt, but there had to be copious amounts of blood, due to the viciousness of the attack (an attack of rage, we had discussed.) Where there ANY footprints or handprints or anything left behind? I would think even the persons hand, arm, or weapon would drip blood leaving a trail. How could it not?
Thank for the concern for my feelings... I appreciate it. I know that talking about the brutality is very difficult as I am aware of how messy it was.. My husband was on the property that night - after bodies were taken.. to see what he might find missing.. He seen everything..

I was told by LE about shoe prints. No finger prints - as far as LE told. I was also told by LE - 'murder tried to clean up the mess' Not sure how LE refers... like did murder/s clean themselves (which I would imagine the party to be covered head-toe.. in hair... in eyes.. just all over) or clean the house.. floor... sink? LE was not specific.

[Rosco]

No murder weapon was ever found. I don't know if they ever identified it beyond a blunt object. Although I thought I heard it was a hammer. Rosco may know.assuption are AX

[blaize]

Thank for the concern for my feelings... I appreciate it. I know that talking about the brutality is very difficult as I am aware of how messy it was.. My husband was on the property that night - after bodies were taken.. to see what he might find missing.. He seen everything..

I was told by LE about shoe prints. No finger prints - as far as LE told. I was also told by LE - 'murder tried to clean up the mess' Not sure how LE refers... like did murder/s clean themselves (which I would imagine the party to be covered head-toe.. in hair... in eyes.. just all over) or clean the house.. floor... sink? LE was not specific.This begins to sound even worse than I originally thought.

1. The murders were commited using an axe.
2. The murderers then stayed at the scene long enough to attempt a cleanup of themselves and or a partial cleanup of the scene.
3. This means that they spent quite a lot of time at the scene finding what they wanted and then cleaning up.
4. This doesn't sound like it was a spontaenous act. It sounds like it was coldly premeditated & executed by people who knew exactly what they were looking for and where to find it.

blaize

[Dark Knight]

assuption are AX
OH MY GOSH, an AX murder??????? That's just too brutal.

I am not please dto hear LE is not going down any roads, even with the family.

[HollywoodBound]

Did the people who we are not outright calling suspects know of the cash in the home?
The descriptions of the crime make it seem like it was commited out of anger, maybe even jealously and envy, and to gain fortune. Seems like whoever commited the crime knew about the amount of $ in the house.
I'm guessing there was a will and this 'a' was willed the house and everything.
This story is very said.
Thanks for answering my questions.

[Dark Knight]

Why did "A" so specifically tell police that she found her mom with a gunshot wound to the head? If her head was crushed by an ax, it would look NOTHING like a bullet wound. Was "A" trying to distance herself of any knowledge of it by saying what she thought it was, when it would never be mistaken for it? I wonder how panicked she sounded when she called.

I wonder if the tree service can verify that she was asked to assist her dad that morning at work?

"A's" comments to the newspaper about renovating the house, cuz it was her parents "dream" struck everyone as odd that read it. I cannot believe that would ever be on my mind right after such a horrific event, especially with the detail she gave to what she would have done. She had been living in a dumpy trailer prior to the murder.

[gardenmom]

I'm really sorry for your loss. Can you tell us if there was an insurance policy and who was the beneficiary? Is "A" staying in the house legally? If the house was left to multiple children of the deceased, then why is only "A" staying there? It sounds to me like murder with the intention of profit, so if "A" was sore beneficiary, or if she was executor I would suspect her. For instance, my parents have very specific wishes for certain things they own when they die. However, anything not specifically mentioned goes to me, as I am their only child together. We have a verbal understanding that I am to decide who gets what. Basically I take what I want and they get the rest. Their reasoning is that since I lived at home the longest, and was their bio child together that certain things would have more meaning to me. Now, if I was wanting to be a B**CH, I could just take it all and sell it for profit. Is this was has happened with "A"?

[blaize]

Why did "A" so specifically tell police that she found her mom with a gunshot wound to the head? If her head was crushed by an ax, it would look NOTHING like a bullet wound. Was "A" trying to distance herself of any knowledge of it by saying what she thought it was, when it would never be mistaken for it? I wonder how panicked she sounded when she called.

I wonder if the tree service can verify that she was asked to assist her dad that morning at work?

"A's" comments to the newspaper about renovating the house, cuz it was her parents "dream" struck everyone as odd that read it. I cannot believe that would ever be on my mind right after such a horrific event, especially with the detail she gave to what she would have done. She had been living in a dumpy trailer prior to the murder.
I don't know Dark Knight with all the blood and gore anyone except a professional could misidentify the cause of the wounds. It would be helpful to listen to that 911 call for sure.

Where does it say that "A" made that comment about being asked to assist her dad?

Hmm A's comment about renovating the house does seem odd, I would be more likey to accept someone saying that after six months or a year but to have said it so soon after the murders seems oddly detached.

blaize

[Rosco]

This begins to sound even worse than I originally thought.

1. The murders were commited using an axe.
2. The murderers then stayed at the scene long enough to attempt a cleanup of themselves and or a partial cleanup of the scene.
3. This means that they spent quite a lot of time at the scene finding what they wanted and then cleaning up.
4. This doesn't sound like it was a spontaenous act. It sounds like it was coldly premeditated & executed by people who knew exactly what they were looking for and where to find it.

blaize
I agree with everything in this quote. can't confirm the weapon.. but assumed axe or something such with heavy and weight to do the damage that was done to their face/heads per LE.. I truly believe it was premeditated (i think LE thinks so too) ..and the person/s knew EXACTLY what they were looking for.. and staged the set up with the missing guns and other misc.. weapons taken. Darleen's wedding ring that dad just purchased for her a few months prior to murders.. celebration of 25yrs.. Darleen never had a ring w/stone from dad when married... Ring was in the end table drawer - along with her other rings she wore.. Darleen never wore jewlery to work.. only on weekends.. right next to her body.. Murderes were not looking for jewlery...still in the end table.

[Rosco]

Did the people who we are not outright calling suspects know of the cash in the home?
The descriptions of the crime make it seem like it was commited out of anger, maybe even jealously and envy, and to gain fortune. Seems like whoever commited the crime knew about the amount of $ in the house.
I'm guessing there was a will and this 'a' was willed the house and everything.
This story is very said.
Thanks for answering my questions.
People knew about the cash who were close to dad. I feel it was a crime of rage.. anger ! Over kill is what I can only state. I think and I assume LE thinks the same about the murder/s knowing about the $$ in the house.. cuz it was missing and the money was talked about just days prior with my husband and father. My dad went down to FLA and LA for the hurricane help last summer - spent better part of 3 months... Made some good money.. Told me all the time on the phone that his new boat was 'calling his name' since he was getting all this cash for the help in the South... My dad was not a bragger about money and things he had - only to family... Proud man but not stupid to lash his voice to all to hear.. He was private. No will... 'A' found a handwritten note stating she will receive all - home. 401k, life insurance, cars, trucks, boat... It is in Darleen's writing and dad signed it. Stated she wanted her to share with bro. and sister (me and my brother)... and grandkids. Have not heard nor seen any such idea...

Thank for your kind thoughts and prayers.. I trust in God to show truth...

[Rosco]

I don't know Dark Knight with all the blood and gore anyone except a professional could misidentify the cause of the wounds. It would be helpful to listen to that 911 call for sure.

Where does it say that "A" made that comment about being asked to assist her dad?

Hmm A's comment about renovating the house does seem odd, I would be more likey to accept someone saying that after six months or a year but to have said it so soon after the murders seems oddly detached.

blaize
Wow - never thought about that comment until I just read that.. Totally out of normal for someone to say things like that less than 48hrs after finding BOTH her parents murdered...

Also about having someone move into the house 3 weeks after the murders... Carpet was still pulled and cut from my husband cleaning the gore and blood off the walls and draps and couch was burned... blood was everywhere..!!!! I think that LE is not certain the weapon.. Have not told me anything about that... Coroner neither.

If it was me who found my parents - I would not be talking about fixing the house up...

[Rosco]

I'm really sorry for your loss. Can you tell us if there was an insurance policy and who was the beneficiary? Is "A" staying in the house legally? If the house was left to multiple children of the deceased, then why is only "A" staying there? It sounds to me like murder with the intention of profit, so if "A" was sore beneficiary, or if she was executor I would suspect her. For instance, my parents have very specific wishes for certain things they own when they die. However, anything not specifically mentioned goes to me, as I am their only child together. We have a verbal understanding that I am to decide who gets what. Basically I take what I want and they get the rest. Their reasoning is that since I lived at home the longest, and was their bio child together that certain things would have more meaning to me. Now, if I was wanting to be a B**CH, I could just take it all and sell it for profit. Is this was has happened with "A"?
All the above.. Insurance on both.. 401K, house, cars, property in Montana too.. everything goes to A.. She is the bio from both and we (me and brother) never would expect anything less.. She is our sister and we always repected that. No will - only written on sheet of paper from Darleen that all goes to A.. but to share with Sis and brother. I never did want anything.. I am grown and married with children.. job -I have home.. She is 20yrs old not married and no children.. no job.. nothign going.. i would never take anything that is A's and I respected that always... A has totally turned everything into a horrible battle since the day (31Oct 2005) I walked off the property.. Never looked back and litterally shut the door behind us (brother and sister) She can take anything she wants and sells anything.. I just would like to at least have my husbands hunting gear back..and other things that were left there becz better to leave it there than keep bringing it back every season.. Maybe a fishing pole and tackle box for my 3 1/2 yr old son...dad's grandson... I received NOTHING from A... not even a snap-shot after I left... I worried about her being so young and having nothing.. Before I left we spoke and I told 'A' i was concerned and that 'A' can sell the house and we get her OWN 'A" house.. and not the memories of the murders..and US family would still visit and hunt and do everything we used to do.. but just at "A" house.. We talked and I assumed when I left that her plans were what we said.. She had other plans..and we were not in the 'new plans'.. I never TOLD her what she should do.. we talked like friends and family would.. with ideas and thoughts... and how I worried and cried every time we spoke the 2 weeks we buried them...

[blaize]

Wow - never thought about that comment until I just read that.. Totally out of normal for someone to say things like that less than 48hrs after finding BOTH her parents murdered...

Also about having someone move into the house 3 weeks after the murders... Carpet was still pulled and cut from my husband cleaning the gore and blood off the walls and draps and couch was burned... blood was everywhere..!!!! I think that LE is not certain the weapon.. Have not told me anything about that... Coroner neither.

If it was me who found my parents - I would not be talking about fixing the house up...Yes, we can only guess at what our own reactions would be but I get a cold sick feeling in the pit of my stomach even thinking about that happening to my parents. I don't think I'd be able to stay in the house where it happened either.

How did A stay in the house with such an obvious and bloody reminder of the crime? Even after three weeks the sights and smells might remain so I wonder at the kind of person who'd want to rent a room in that house.

blaize

[Rosco]

Yes, we can only guess at what our own reactions would be but I get a cold sick feeling in the pit of my stomach even thinking about that happening to my parents. I don't think I'd be able to stay in the house where it happened either.

How did A stay in the house with such an obvious and bloody reminder of the crime? Even after three weeks the sights and smells might remain so I wonder at the kind of person who'd want to rent a room in that house.

blaize
Just being in the house for service the whole 2 weeks was unbeliebable.. smell still there from death! VERY VERY sick.. I don;t know how A can do that.. I told A to selll the house - personally I could NEVER stay after dark in the house ever again!!! NEVER.. you could pay me a million and I would never stay there again..

[Dark Knight]

Wow - never thought about that comment until I just read that.. Totally out of normal for someone to say things like that less than 48hrs after finding BOTH her parents murdered...

Also about having someone move into the house 3 weeks after the murders... Carpet was still pulled and cut from my husband cleaning the gore and blood off the walls and draps and couch was burned... blood was everywhere..!!!! I think that LE is not certain the weapon.. Have not told me anything about that... Coroner neither.

If it was me who found my parents - I would not be talking about fixing the house up...
"We're going to make their dreams our dreams," said the couple's daughter, ("A") affirming that the family would be keeping the home where her parents died. "Dad wanted a full wrap-around porch, to tear down the barn, new siding. There's electrical work to do. Mom wanted new curtains, new furniture.

"We just need a security system."

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/27/the_news-sun/news-99051.txt

[gardenmom]

"We're going to make their dreams our dreams," said the couple's daughter, ("A") affirming that the family would be keeping the home where her parents died. "Dad wanted a full wrap-around porch, to tear down the barn, new siding. There's electrical work to do. Mom wanted new curtains, new furniture.

"We just need a security system."

http://www.fwdailynews.com/articles/2005/10/27/the_news-sun/news-99051.txt
DK, I still cannot access the archives. I think the quotes above speak for themselves though. I would like to know who she is referring to when she says "we"?

Rosco, you said the will was on a handwritten paper. Was this ever verified in case it was forged? I wouldn't be surprised if it was signed under duress. You said the life insurance policy was mentioned in this note. Don't you have to put down a beneficairy beforehand, like when you fill it out? I guess they would have listed each other first, then her since she was their bio daughter.

Here is what I am thinking. I know you do not want anything, as you have stated. But, what if you were to stir up the pot a little? It seems you may be entitled to something, and could contest the "will". Although, it may not be a good idea if she is the one responsible. If she killed once, she may do it again. I agree with other posters that at 20 years old there is no way I could live in my murdered parents home. If I didn't do it I would be afraid of someone coming after me. If I did do it I would be afraid of their spirits or my guilt getting me.

I think LE may know a lot more than they are telling you. To me it seems obvious who have motive. Another question. Was A's ex boyfriend her ex at the time of the murders? Would it be strange for them to be together as each others alibies?

[southcitymom]

I just found this thread and haven't read everything yet, so I apologize if I am bringing up something that has been discussed.

According to the family website, Terry was obviously an active and long-standing member of AA/NA. Could he have met his murderer(s) at meetings? I attend NA and due to the nature of the beast of addiction, going to meetings can put you in contact with people "unsavory" pasts - certainly people with criminal pasts often involving drugs and violence.

Could Terry have reached out to a suffering alcoholic or addict and had it turn bad? I just wonder if this is an angle has been explored. I will continue to read the thread, but wanted to throw out this thought.

[William R Thomas]

I wasn't familiar with this case, and had never heard of it before tonight. I read all the info on the web I could find, as well as all of the post in this thread.

As someone who studied profiling for a bit, there are a few things that stand out as odd, but heres the prominent one, that I don't recall anyone mentioning.

If you were 20 years old, and your parents had just been brutally murdered, you would, in all likelyhood, not want to inhabit the house. BUT, that aside, because that is a mental fear to be overcome, wouldn't you have an immediate fear of whomever did this coming back? That is a practical fear.

The only way you could live there comfortbly, would be if you were secure in the knowledge that you KNEW they would not be coming back. Which of course leads to the logic that A def knows who did this, how, and why. She has no fear of them coming back.

PLUS, the gunshot wound comment was totally out line. Under sever, unexpected duress, most people would reply "I don't know". The only reason she would bevery specific would be if she was trying to throw LE immediately off the trail.

[Dark Knight]

I wasn't familiar with this case, and had never heard of it before tonight. I read all the info on the web I could find, as well as all of the post in this thread.

As someone who studied profiling for a bit, there are a few things that stand out as odd, but heres the prominent one, that I don't recall anyone mentioning.

If you were 20 years old, and your parents had just been brutally murdered, you would, in all likelyhood, not want to inhabit the house. BUT, that aside, because that is a mental fear to be overcome, wouldn't you have an immediate fear of whomever did this coming back? That is a practical fear.

The only way you could live there comfortbly, would be if you were secure in the knowledge that you KNEW they would not be coming back. Which of course leads to the logic that A def knows who did this, how, and why. She has no fear of them coming back.

PLUS, the gunshot wound comment was totally out line. Under sever, unexpected duress, most people would reply "I don't know". The only reason she would bevery specific would be if she was trying to throw LE immediately off the trail.To be fair, she did add "a security system" to her list of renovations. *shrugs* It ain't much I realize, lol.

[mfmangel1]

I wonder if the so-called "will" is dated and notarized.

It could have been written under duress, perhaps the night of the murder?

And who is the beneficiary on the insurance policies?

I wouldn't believe anything until I saw it myself and was able to verify that everything was legitimate.

[Dark Knight]

Rosco, if you haven't received anything, and the "will" says she is to share with you, why hasn't the "will" been challenged or enforced in court by you or others?

[Dark Knight]

Article reprinted via courtesy of the Herald Republican Newspaper in Angola, IN. This was the original story of the murders. It reminded me that when it first broke, there was quite a bit of time between finding Darleen and then finding Terry, as it was originally reported that she was murdered and he was missing, and a lot of us thought he killed her. So it was a lot of time between finding the bodies:


Mongo couple found dead; Bodies discovered in home, outbuilding

BY WANDA YODER



MONGO What began Friday as an investigation into the death of a rural Mongo woman is now being probed as a double homicide after police found the body of the woman's husband.

Police have identified the victims as Terry A. Anderson, 59, and his wife, Darlene Anderson, 57, of the 6200 block of East C.R. 250N, near Mongo.

Police said Darlene Anderson's body was found in the living room of their home. Terry Anderson's body was found later in an outbuilding on the property.

LaGrange County Sheriff's Department Chief Deputy Tom Clarkson said the exact cause of death would not be announced until autopsies were completed. Police have not confirmed whether the deaths were caused by gunshot wounds.

Police remained at the scene until late Friday evening investigating the homicides.

When contacted Friday evening, LaGrange County Coroner Bruce Coney said he wouldn't release any information about the autopsy results until later this morning. He said he planned to meet with the county sheriff and prosecutor at 7:30 this morning before releasing further information about the case. He expects to issue a news release by 10 a.m. today.



"We want to put everything together so we don't take a chance on damaging the case," Coney said.

According to police, the Andersons' daughter arrived at the home Friday to meet her father for work. She called police dispatch at about 7:21 a.m. to report finding her mother lying on a couch with a gunshot wound to the head. Police arrived at the residence and found the victim. Police said Terry Anderson's truck was parked at the residence, but he could not be found at the time.

A preliminary search of the residence by officers was executed as a safety precaution. Following the issuance of a search warrant, investigating officers used K-9s to locate Terry Anderson's body in the outbuilding.

According to Clarkson, the time of death for the Andersons was estimated to have occurred sometime between 8 p.m. Thursday and 7:21 a.m. Friday. Clarkson said no weapon was found at the scene.

LaGrange County Sheriff Greg Dhaene said investigators are interviewing the daughter to try to understand what may have happened. The husband and wife lived together at the residence.

The investigation is continuing. Anyone with information regarding this incident should contact the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department at 463-7491, Indiana State Police Fort Wayne Post at 463-4343 or Crime Stoppers at (800) 342-STOP.

Investigating agencies include the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department, Indiana State Police, Indiana Conservation Officers, LaGrange County Coroner's Office, LaGrange County Prosecutor's Office and the Indiana State Excise Police.MONGO What began Friday as an investigation into the death of a rural Mongo woman is now being probed as a double homicide after police found the body of the woman's husband.

Police have identified the victims as Terry A. Anderson, 59, and his wife, Darlene Anderson, 57, of the 6200 block of East C.R. 250N, near Mongo.

Police said Darlene Anderson's body was found in the living room of their home. Terry Anderson's body was found later in an outbuilding on the property.

LaGrange County Sheriff's Department Chief Deputy Tom Clarkson said the exact cause of death would not be announced until autopsies were completed. Police have not confirmed whether the deaths were caused by gunshot wounds.

Police remained at the scene until late Friday evening investigating the homicides.

When contacted Friday evening, LaGrange County Coroner Bruce Coney said he wouldn't release any information about the autopsy results until later this morning. He said he planned to meet with the county sheriff and prosecutor at 7:30 this morning before releasing further information about the case. He expects to issue a news release by 10 a.m. today.

"We want to put everything together so we don't take a chance on damaging the case," Coney said.

According to police, the Andersons' daughter arrived at the home Friday to meet her father for work. She called police dispatch at about 7:21 a.m. to report finding her mother lying on a couch with a gunshot wound to the head. Police arrived at the residence and found the victim. Police said Terry Anderson's truck was parked at the residence, but he could not be found at the time.

A preliminary search of the residence by officers was executed as a safety precaution. Following the issuance of a search warrant, investigating officers used K-9s to locate Terry Anderson's body in the outbuilding.

According to Clarkson, the time of death for the Andersons was estimated to have occurred sometime between 8 p.m. Thursday and 7:21 a.m. Friday. Clarkson said no weapon was found at the scene.

LaGrange County Sheriff Greg Dhaene said investigators are interviewing the daughter to try to understand what may have happened. The husband and wife lived together at the residence.

The investigation is continuing. Anyone with information regarding this incident should contact the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department at 463-7491, Indiana State Police Fort Wayne Post at 463-4343 or Crime Stoppers at (800) 342-STOP.

Investigating agencies include the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department, Indiana State Police, Indiana Conservation Officers, LaGrange County Coroner's Office, LaGrange County Prosecutor's Office and the Indiana State Excise Police.


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From the Kendallville News-Sun:

Police hope for break in murders: Officials pursuing leads, waiting for potential DNA evidence

By MATT GETTS

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That's the question that continues to gnaw at investigators more than two months after the couple were found murdered at their home in the 6200 block of East C.R. 250N near Mongo on Oct. 21.

No arrests have been made in the double homicide despite dozens of interviews and hundreds of man hours logged by multiple agencies, including the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department, the Indiana State Police and LaGrange County Coroner's Office.

LaGrange County Sheriff Greg Dhaene said Tuesday afternoon there were at least five "people of interest" who have not been excluded as potential suspects. But police were still looking for the "smoking gun" evidence or tip that will lead them to the killer.

Police are hopeful that potential DNA evidence gathered at the scene will eventually lead them to the murderer.

Dhaene confirmed Tuesday that "several pieces of evidence" were recovered, primarily in the outbuilding where Terry Anderson's body was discovered. Processing those materials for potential DNA evidence will take another four to six months at the backlogged Indiana State Police Crime Lab, he said.

Dhaene declined to comment on the exact nature of the evidence.

"We are hopeful DNA evidence may be available," Dhaene said.

The body of Darlene Anderson, 57, was discovered by the couple's daughter, Amanda Anderson, when she arrived to pick up her father for work at about 7:21 a.m. on Oct. 21. The body of Terry Anderson, 59, was discovered later in an outbuilding after a search warrant had been obtained for the property.

Police have released few details in the case. LaGrange County Coroner Bruce Coney ruled Oct. 22 both victims died of "blunt force trauma." Police have not disclosed the weapon that was used to kill the Andersons, or whether the weapon has been recovered.

Dhaene expressed frustration that there had been no new significant leads in the case.

"You hate to see an investigation like this stall," Dhaene said Tuesday afternoon.

Meanwhile, county and state law enforcement officers continue to work the case on a daily basis.

Sheriff's department Lt. Tad Oakley, the lead investigator in the case, said he has interviewed more than 50 people concerning the homicides.

"We're going back 15 to 20 years of Terry Anderson's life looking for potential suspects," Oakley said.

Oakley said law enforcement's frustration is shared by the family.

"The family understands what kind of investigation this is," Oakley said. "They know how frustrating it is when we're not getting new information in and we haven't found the (suspect)."

Dhaene said he is convinced the perpetrator or perpetrators will be apprehended.

"This is a solvable case," Dhaene said. "It's just going to take a lot of work and patience."

Several items were stolen from the Andersons' home, according to police. Stolen items include a Winchester .22 magnum lever action rifle with scope and sling; Horton CB 325 Legend Cross-bow; CVA .50 caliber muzzleloader with Simmons scope; Mossberg 20-gauge shotgun with rifled slug barrel and sling; and assorted collector coins.

Anyone with information regarding this case or the whereabouts of any of these items is asked to contact the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department at 463-7491, the Indiana State Police at 432-8661 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-342-7867.

LAGRANGE Who killed Terry and Darlene Anderson?

That's the question that continues to gnaw at investigators more than two months after the couple were found murdered at their home in the 6200 block of East C.R. 250N near Mongo on Oct. 21.

No arrests have been made in the double homicide despite dozens of interviews and hundreds of man hours logged by multiple agencies, including the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department, the Indiana State Police and LaGrange County Coroner's Office.

LaGrange County Sheriff Greg Dhaene said Tuesday afternoon there were at least five "people of interest" who have not been excluded as potential suspects. But police were still looking for the "smoking gun" evidence or tip that will lead them to the killer.

Police are hopeful that potential DNA evidence gathered at the scene will eventually lead them to the murderer.

Dhaene confirmed Tuesday that "several pieces of evidence" were recovered, primarily in the outbuilding where Terry Anderson's body was discovered. Processing those materials for potential DNA evidence will take another four to six months at the backlogged Indiana State Police Crime Lab, he said.

Dhaene declined to comment on the exact nature of the evidence.

"We are hopeful DNA evidence may be available," Dhaene said.

The body of Darlene Anderson, 57, was discovered by the couple's daughter, Amanda Anderson, when she arrived to pick up her father for work at about 7:21 a.m. on Oct. 21. The body of Terry Anderson, 59, was discovered later in an outbuilding after a search warrant had been obtained for the property.

Police have released few details in the case. LaGrange County Coroner Bruce Coney ruled Oct. 22 both victims died of "blunt force trauma." Police have not disclosed the weapon that was used to kill the Andersons, or whether the weapon has been recovered.

Dhaene expressed frustration that there had been no new significant leads in the case.

"You hate to see an investigation like this stall," Dhaene said Tuesday afternoon.

Meanwhile, county and state law enforcement officers continue to work the case on a daily basis.

Sheriff's department Lt. Tad Oakley, the lead investigator in the case, said he has interviewed more than 50 people concerning the homicides.

"We're going back 15 to 20 years of Terry Anderson's life looking for potential suspects," Oakley said.

Oakley said law enforcement's frustration is shared by the family.

"The family understands what kind of investigation this is," Oakley said. "They know how frustrating it is when we're not getting new information in and we haven't found the (suspect)."

Dhaene said he is convinced the perpetrator or perpetrators will be apprehended.

"This is a solvable case," Dhaene said. "It's just going to take a lot of work and patience."

Several items were stolen from the Andersons' home, according to police. Stolen items include a Winchester .22 magnum lever action rifle with scope and sling; Horton CB 325 Legend Cross-bow; CVA .50 caliber muzzleloader with Simmons scope; Mossberg 20-gauge shotgun with rifled slug barrel and sling; and assorted collector coins.

Anyone with information regarding this case or the whereabouts of any of these items is asked to contact the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department at 463-7491, the Indiana State Police at 432-8661 or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-342-7867.

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Here are some links to the original newspaper reports at the time of the murder, in decending chronological order (more recent at top)

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From the Kendallville News-Sun:
Deaths result of beatings; ‘Items of value’ missing

By Bill Gisel

MONGO Blunt force trauma has been listed as the cause of death of Terry and Darlene Anderson, whose bodies were found Friday at their home in the 6200 block of East C.R. 250N near Mongo.

A joint news release issued Saturday by the LaGrange County Sheriff, Indiana State Police and Coroner Bruce Coney said their deaths are being investigated as homicides.

Police confirmed they have identified several "persons of interest" for questioning, and "items of value" are missing from the property, according to Sheriff Greg Dhaene.

Funeral arrangements for Terry, 59, and Darlene, 57, are pending at the Carney-Frost Funeral Home in LaGrange.

Mrs. Anderson's body was discovered by the couple's daughter, Amanda Anderson, when she arrived to pick up her father for work at about 7:21 a.m. Friday. Both reportedly worked for Asplundh Tree Expert Co.

Terry Anderson's body was discovered later in an outbuilding, after police obtained a search warrant for the property.

According to the news release, the time of death of the Andersons is between 8 p.m. Thursday and 7:21 a.m. Friday, when the first body was discovered.

Autopsies were conducted Friday afternoon to determine the cause of their deaths.

Anyone with information about the murders is asked to call the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department at 463-7491, the Indiana State Police at 432-8661, or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-342-7867.

‘A real nice lady'

A former co-worker of Darlene Anderson at Kraft Foods in Kendallville described her as "a real nice lady."

Deanna Magnuson of Albion said she worked with "Dar" for many years. Magnuson has since retired.

"We worked together for quite a few years, and she trained me on one machine," Magnuson recalled. "We played cards together." She guessed Mrs. Anderson had worked at Kraft Foods about 30 years.

She said Mrs. Anderson was "pretty laid back" but a hard worker who did her job. She said that at the time she worked with Mrs. Anderson, Anderson took care of her mother in addition to working.

"She was pretty surprised when she learned she was going to have a baby," Magnuson said. She said her friend had always been told she couldn't have a child, and when she did, it "came pretty late in her life.

"But she never missed work, all the time she was pregnant," Magnuson said.

‘He looked like Santa'

Terry Anderson had white hair and a full white beard, and looked like Santa Claus, said John Burrell of Angola, a good friend who had also worked with Anderson at Asplundh Tree Expert.

"He was very hard working and honest, and he didn't drink or do drugs," Burrell said. Anderson had a passion for muskie fishing, and often served as a guide, taking people out in his boat on area lakes.

Burrell said that during the years he worked with Anderson, "Everywhere we went, he knew somebody." He said it didn't matter if it was in Angola, LaGrange, Rome City or Michigan.

According to Burrell, Amanda Anderson had been asked by her father to fill in for his usual partner on Friday. She often filled in when someone was needed, Burrell said.

"I have been to his home many times, and he had a lot of guns and a lot of fishing equipment," Burrell said. Anderson had a habit of loaning money to people, he added, and speculated that the killer probably knew Anderson.

"I think it was someone who knew him, but that's just my personal opinion," he said.MONGO Blunt force trauma has been listed as the cause of death of Terry and Darlene Anderson, whose bodies were found Friday at their home in the 6200 block of East C.R. 250N near Mongo.

A joint news release issued Saturday by the LaGrange County Sheriff, Indiana State Police and Coroner Bruce Coney said their deaths are being investigated as homicides.

Police confirmed they have identified several "persons of interest" for questioning, and "items of value" are missing from the property, according to Sheriff Greg Dhaene.

Funeral arrangements for Terry, 59, and Darlene, 57, are pending at the Carney-Frost Funeral Home in LaGrange.

Mrs. Anderson's body was discovered by the couple's daughter, Amanda Anderson, when she arrived to pick up her father for work at about 7:21 a.m. Friday. Both reportedly worked for Asplundh Tree Expert Co.

Terry Anderson's body was discovered later in an outbuilding, after police obtained a search warrant for the property.

According to the news release, the time of death of the Andersons is between 8 p.m. Thursday and 7:21 a.m. Friday, when the first body was discovered.

Autopsies were conducted Friday afternoon to determine the cause of their deaths.

Anyone with information about the murders is asked to call the LaGrange County Sheriff's Department at 463-7491, the Indiana State Police at 432-8661, or Crime Stoppers at 1-800-342-7867.

‘A real nice lady'

A former co-worker of Darlene Anderson at Kraft Foods in Kendallville described her as "a real nice lady."

Deanna Magnuson of Albion said she worked with "Dar" for many years. Magnuson has since retired.

"We worked together for quite a few years, and she trained me on one machine," Magnuson recalled. "We played cards together." She guessed Mrs. Anderson had worked at Kraft Foods about 30 years.

She said Mrs. Anderson was "pretty laid back" but a hard worker who did her job. She said that at the time she worked with Mrs. Anderson, Anderson took care of her mother in addition to working.

"She was pretty surprised when she learned she was going to have a baby," Magnuson said. She said her friend had always been told she couldn't have a child, and when she did, it "came pretty late in her life.

"But she never missed work, all the time she was pregnant," Magnuson said.

‘He looked like Santa'

Terry Anderson had white hair and a full white beard, and looked like Santa Claus, said John Burrell of Angola, a good friend who had also worked with Anderson at Asplundh Tree Expert.

"He was very hard working and honest, and he didn't drink or do drugs," Burrell said. Anderson had a passion for muskie fishing, and often served as a guide, taking people out in his boat on area lakes.

Burrell said that during the years he worked with Anderson, "Everywhere we went, he knew somebody." He said it didn't matter if it was in Angola, LaGrange, Rome City or Michigan.

According to Burrell, Amanda Anderson had been asked by her father to fill in for his usual partner on Friday. She often filled in when someone was needed, Burrell said.

"I have been to his home many times, and he had a lot of guns and a lot of fishing equipment," Burrell said. Anderson had a habit of loaning money to people, he added, and speculated that the killer probably knew Anderson.

"I think it was someone who knew him, but that's just my personal opinion," he said.

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Article by the Kendallville News-Sun:

Treasured memories

By Megan Hockley

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LAGRANGE Two closed caskets were covered in flowers at LaGrange's Carney-Frost Funeral Home Wednesday as the family and friends of homicide victims Terry and Darleen Anderson gathered to bid them goodbye.

Funeral services are today for the Mongo couple who were found dead on their property Friday. Police still have no suspects in the case.

Terry and Darleen Anderson are gone, but their spirits were very much present at Wednesday's calling, where treasured memories were shared aloud, hugs were plentiful, tears were wiped away, laughter occasionally bubbled up and, most importantly, love lived on.

"We're going to make their dreams our dreams," said the couple's daughter, Amanda, affirming that the family would be keeping the home where her parents died. "Dad wanted a full wrap-around porch, to tear down the barn, new siding. There's electrical work to do. Mom wanted new curtains, new furniture.

"We just need a security system."

Twenty-year-old Amanda Anderson sat on a sofa near her parents' caskets Wednesday, surrounded by close friends and family members. The dark shadows under her eyes testifying to how little sleep she's had in the past few days, Amanda Anderson was still in shock but she spoke bravely about her parents.





Topwater Terry

Terry Anderson had a tattoo of a muskie on his arm and a love for hunting in his heart. Many of the memories people shared about him Wednesday involved animals, both pets and prey. He was nicknamed Topwater Terry in connection with his passion for muskie fishing.

"Dad loved the outdoors, hunting and fishing," Amanda Anderson said. "He was a muskie guy, and he would ice fish constantly in the winter.

"He was proud of his boat, and

his truck was his pride and joy. He loved his children and his grandchildren. He was a hard worker."

When asked if she used to go fishing with her dad, Amanda was quick to smile. "Not very much because he would scream and yell, but if anybody ever needed anything, he would make sure you had it. If you needed money for lunch or if you needed advice ... he would give it."

Terry and his friends called themselves The Brothers of the Woods, and Terry also went by the nickname The Norwegian Monkey Man from Mongo, said his best friend, Bill Gage.

"Terry's most famous in Mongo for his iron skillet. It's never been washed! He made the best deer meat in the whole state, maybe the whole country in that," Gage said. "We lived on hazelnuts or filberts and deer meat all winter."

Gage also shared a memory of Terry that involved his old pet pig, Oink Johnson, which he said grew into the biggest pig he'd ever seen.

"He'd try to ride Oink Johnson," Gage said, laughing. "When the pig got hungry, it would get noisy, and Terry would say, ‘Shut up, Oink Johnson! I'll feed you when I'm ready.' That pig was as big as a cow. Its pork chops looked like T-bone steaks."

Terry was also a famous turkey hunter, Gage said. "He would get his turkey in 10 minutes. Everybody in town was jealous of that. I would hunt all day without getting one."

Terry's barn was bigger than his house and included a large storage area, a tool shed and workroom and his hunting cabin. "Every time he got an extra $500, $600, he'd call the Amish men. ‘I want to build on. Frame it up,'" Gage said.

Rick and Misty Jo Kwiek of California, Terry's oldest son and his wife, said Terry taught his grandsons how to fish and used to secretly slip them gold dollars when their parents weren't looking. Terry often took Rick out fishing when he visited Indiana.

"I remember going to Cree Lake," Kwiek said. "He got in the boat, and he wanted me to back up the boat. Well, I'm from Chicago. I'm lucky if I can drive my own car. He was yelling, ‘No, not that way! More right, more left!' Normally, he was mellow, but ..."

Terry was a tree trimmer for Asplundh. His co-worker, and Amanda Anderson's boyfriend, Quae Proctor, has many fond memories of him, including watching Terry ride around his yard on a lawnmower, poking at pesky moles with a pitchfork.

Another time, the two men worked together to cut off the top 8 feet of a tree that was full of honey bees.

"The boss wanted the bees dropped in the driveway to get it down quick, but Terry wouldn't do it. He screened up the holes so the bees couldn't get out, and he insisted on having those honey bees relocated to some other area," Proctor said. "There was 50-60 pounds of honey in the log. There was so much, it was seeping out the pores of the wood."

"He drove those bees from Syracuse all the way to Mongo," Amanda Anderson said, adding that Terry gave the log to a beekeeper friend of his.

Shop ‘til you drop Darleen

Darleen Anderson's proclivity for shopping was one of her defining characteristics, according to friends and family."Mom loved garage sale-ing," Amanda Anderson said fondly. "She used to bring home a lot of junk."

"She could outshop us all, and Terry could outfish all us guys," Proctor said.

"Every time we came from California, she would take us to Shipshewana, and we were at the flea markets and garage sales," Misty Jo Kwiek said. "We wouldn't get home until after dark because she wouldn't quit. It was always, ‘Just one more garage sale!'

"She'd know we were coming, and she'd start hitting the garage sales for toys for the grandkids ... The boys loved their grandma."

Darleen also passed down her skill at playing the piano to her daughter, and she collected rocks of all kinds. She bought from dealers and often reminded Proctor and her husband to keep their eyes open for interesting rocks in the cornfields. "We always brought something back for her," Proctor said.

With her collections and her shopping habit, Darleen's house is packed to the rafters with stuff, according to her daughter-in-law.

"She was a pack rat. The house was hers to fill up, and the shop was his, and oh my gosh is it full!" Misty Jo Kwiek said. "It will have to be sorted out, and I started looking at it, but I just couldn't do anything yet. I felt like I was invading their privacy."

Terry was a bit of a shopper too, and Darleen used to scold him for his extravagant purchases unless he brought her something too, Amanda Anderson said.

"He'd always buy things and hide them from her. Then she'd find them," Amanda said. "The day we got a new four-wheeler and a new dirt bike and pulled in the driveway with them, she was so mad."

"I remember when he bought something really expensive (for himself), and he went out and bought her all new furniture so it would be OK," Gage said.LAGRANGE Two closed caskets were covered in flowers at LaGrange's Carney-Frost Funeral Home Wednesday as the family and friends of homicide victims Terry and Darleen Anderson gathered to bid them goodbye.

Funeral services are today for the Mongo couple who were found dead on their property Friday. Police still have no suspects in the case.

Terry and Darleen Anderson are gone, but their spirits were very much present at Wednesday's calling, where treasured memories were shared aloud, hugs were plentiful, tears were wiped away, laughter occasionally bubbled up and, most importantly, love lived on.

"We're going to make their dreams our dreams," said the couple's daughter, Amanda, affirming that the family would be keeping the home where her parents died. "Dad wanted a full wrap-around porch, to tear down the barn, new siding. There's electrical work to do. Mom wanted new curtains, new furniture.

"We just need a security system."

Twenty-year-old Amanda Anderson sat on a sofa near her parents' caskets Wednesday, surrounded by close friends and family members. The dark shadows under her eyes testifying to how little sleep she's had in the past few days, Amanda Anderson was still in shock but she spoke bravely about her parents.

Topwater Terry

Terry Anderson had a tattoo of a muskie on his arm and a love for hunting in his heart. Many of the memories people shared about him Wednesday involved animals, both pets and prey. He was nicknamed Topwater Terry in connection with his passion for muskie fishing.

"Dad loved the outdoors, hunting and fishing," Amanda Anderson said. "He was a muskie guy, and he would ice fish constantly in the winter.

"He was proud of his boat, and

his truck was his pride and joy. He loved his children and his grandchildren. He was a hard worker."

When asked if she used to go fishing with her dad, Amanda was quick to smile. "Not very much because he would scream and yell, but if anybody ever needed anything, he would make sure you had it. If you needed money for lunch or if you needed advice ... he would give it."

Terry and his friends called themselves The Brothers of the Woods, and Terry also went by the nickname The Norwegian Monkey Man from Mongo, said his best friend, Bill Gage.

"Terry's most famous in Mongo for his iron skillet. It's never been washed! He made the best deer meat in the whole state, maybe the whole country in that," Gage said. "We lived on hazelnuts or filberts and deer meat all winter."

Gage also shared a memory of Terry that involved his old pet pig, Oink Johnson, which he said grew into the biggest pig he'd ever seen.

"He'd try to ride Oink Johnson," Gage said, laughing. "When the pig got hungry, it would get noisy, and Terry would say, ‘Shut up, Oink Johnson! I'll feed you when I'm ready.' That pig was as big as a cow. Its pork chops looked like T-bone steaks."

Terry was also a famous turkey hunter, Gage said. "He would get his turkey in 10 minutes. Everybody in town was jealous of that. I would hunt all day without getting one."

Terry's barn was bigger than his house and included a large storage area, a tool shed and workroom and his hunting cabin. "Every time he got an extra $500, $600, he'd call the Amish men. ‘I want to build on. Frame it up,'" Gage said.

Rick and Misty Jo Kwiek of California, Terry's oldest son and his wife, said Terry taught his grandsons how to fish and used to secretly slip them gold dollars when their parents weren't looking. Terry often took Rick out fishing when he visited Indiana.

"I remember going to Cree Lake," Kwiek said. "He got in the boat, and he wanted me to back up the boat. Well, I'm from Chicago. I'm lucky if I can drive my own car. He was yelling, ‘No, not that way! More right, more left!' Normally, he was mellow, but ..."

Terry was a tree trimmer for Asplundh. His co-worker, and Amanda Anderson's boyfriend, Quae Proctor, has many fond memories of him, including watching Terry ride around his yard on a lawnmower, poking at pesky moles with a pitchfork.

Another time, the two men worked together to cut off the top 8 feet of a tree that was full of honey bees.

"The boss wanted the bees dropped in the driveway to get it down quick, but Terry wouldn't do it. He screened up the holes so the bees couldn't get out, and he insisted on having those honey bees relocated to some other area," Proctor said. "There was 50-60 pounds of honey in the log. There was so much, it was seeping out the pores of the wood."

"He drove those bees from Syracuse all the way to Mongo," Amanda Anderson said, adding that Terry gave the log to a beekeeper friend of his.

Shop ‘til you drop Darleen

Darleen Anderson's proclivity for shopping was one of her defining characteristics, according to friends and family."Mom loved garage sale-ing," Amanda Anderson said fondly. "She used to bring home a lot of junk."

"She could outshop us all, and Terry could outfish all us guys," Proctor said.

"Every time we came from California, she would take us to Shipshewana, and we were at the flea markets and garage sales," Misty Jo Kwiek said. "We wouldn't get home until after dark because she wouldn't quit. It was always, ‘Just one more garage sale!'

"She'd know we were coming, and she'd start hitting the garage sales for toys for the grandkids ... The boys loved their grandma."

Darleen also passed down her skill at playing the piano to her daughter, and she collected rocks of all kinds. She bought from dealers and often reminded Proctor and her husband to keep their eyes open for interesting rocks in the cornfields. "We always brought something back for her," Proctor said.

With her collections and her shopping habit, Darleen's house is packed to the rafters with stuff, according to her daughter-in-law.

"She was a pack rat. The house was hers to fill up, and the shop was his, and oh my gosh is it full!" Misty Jo Kwiek said. "It will have to be sorted out, and I started looking at it, but I just couldn't do anything yet. I felt like I was invading their privacy."

Terry was a bit of a shopper too, and Darleen used to scold him for his extravagant purchases unless he brought her something too, Amanda Anderson said.

"He'd always buy things and hide them from her. Then she'd find them," Amanda said. "The day we got a new four-wheeler and a new dirt bike and pulled in the driveway with them, she was so mad."

"I remember when he bought something really expensive (for himself), and he went out and bought her all new furniture so it would be OK," Gage said.


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The archived articles are posted above. Thanks to the Herald Republican and KPC Publishing for permission to reprint them!

[Rosco]

Yes, we can only guess at what our own reactions would be but I get a cold sick feeling in the pit of my stomach even thinking about that happening to my parents. I don't think I'd be able to stay in the house where it happened either.

How did A stay in the house with such an obvious and bloody reminder of the crime? Even after three weeks the sights and smells might remain so I wonder at the kind of person who'd want to rent a room in that house.

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I get/GOT the same feeling when I was at my dad's place after the murders took place. The LE allowed the property to be exposed to all less then 48hrs after the murders took place. We/family used the home as a meeting place - for all family to come and say peace.. Just FYI... When people were coming to the home that weekend after the murders, they were coming to the house for ONE REASON... and quess who was never there to greet their visits? A... I always had to track her down somewhere - OR she was not there at all. Her boyfriend(X) at the time was never to be seen...or if he was he was burning up the back yard/woods with the quads and making all kinds of racket...and they were ENGAGED to be married. One would think that a pre-son-in-law of the murdered victims would want to show respect and see the friends and family that came and gave food and money and tears... I did MOST of the planning and greeting... Me and my husband..

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From The Farmer's Exchange Sale Calendar on 5th October 2006 (http://tinyurl.com/he5vs)

Oct. 3, 4:30 p.m.

Estates of Terry & Darlene Anderson, 8 miles east of LaGrange, Ind. on US 20 to SR 3, then north 2½ miles to CR 250N, then west 1¾ miles to 6270 East CR 250N. Strawser Auctions AC68700183 by Michael G. Strawser AU01036470, Auct.
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I asume the family knew about this & hopefully were able to take some personal mementos from the property.

blaize
I did find out about this auction... I was 'advised' not to attend due to security...also I don't know how I would have reacted if I stepped foot on my dad's property and seen A... I think I might have gone to jail.. ANYWAY.. I sent a few 'friends' to the auction and they were able to obtain a few articles... BUT.. also told that the auction was more like a 'garage sale' nothing of value really was there to sell.. Non of great-grandma's antiques were out... nothing from the house as far as doll-collections or any of my dad's nice poles - I wanted one of his cane-poles he had.. not there. Can't sell anything like house, cars, boat.. Bank owns that right now.. The property is in Probate. The 'will' was not legal.. not notarized.... worthless...

[Rosco]

I wasn't familiar with this case, and had never heard of it before tonight. I read all the info on the web I could find, as well as all of the post in this thread.

As someone who studied profiling for a bit, there are a few things that stand out as odd, but heres the prominent one, that I don't recall anyone mentioning.

If you were 20 years old, and your parents had just been brutally murdered, you would, in all likelyhood, not want to inhabit the house. BUT, that aside, because that is a mental fear to be overcome, wouldn't you have an immediate fear of whomever did this coming back? That is a practical fear.

The only way you could live there comfortbly, would be if you were secure in the knowledge that you KNEW they would not be coming back. Which of course leads to the logic that A def knows who did this, how, and why. She has no fear of them coming back.

PLUS, the gunshot wound comment was totally out line. Under sever, unexpected duress, most people would reply "I don't know". The only reason she would bevery specific would be if she was trying to throw LE immediately off the trail.
That is an interesting point about the gunshot comment. I would think the LE knows/thinks the same as you... One would hope. LE said there have been 2 profilers who reviewed this case - from different areas and not knowing one-another.. LE will not express that report to me.. I know when I was on the property I would not wait to get away once that sun went down....

[Rosco]

DK, I still cannot access the archives. I think the quotes above speak for themselves though. I would like to know who she is referring to when she says "we"?

Rosco, you said the will was on a handwritten paper. Was this ever verified in case it was forged? I wouldn't be surprised if it was signed under duress. You said the life insurance policy was mentioned in this note. Don't you have to put down a beneficairy beforehand, like when you fill it out? I guess they would have listed each other first, then her since she was their bio daughter.

Here is what I am thinking. I know you do not want anything, as you have stated. But, what if you were to stir up the pot a little? It seems you may be entitled to something, and could contest the "will". Although, it may not be a good idea if she is the one responsible. If she killed once, she may do it again. I agree with other posters that at 20 years old there is no way I could live in my murdered parents home. If I didn't do it I would be afraid of someone coming after me. If I did do it I would be afraid of their spirits or my guilt getting me.

I think LE may know a lot more than they are telling you. To me it seems obvious who have motive. Another question. Was A's ex boyfriend her ex at the time of the murders? Would it be strange for them to be together as each others alibies?
X- was not X at the time of murders. They were suposed to be getting married and that was what both were going around telling everyone.. Well X- told me that 'not to worry - I will take care of her.. I plan on marrying her'... He can not deny he said that right on the front steps of the sheriff's office... It was me and him..

As far as beneficairy - they placed each other first.. SO it got down to who survived who... and the coroner ruled Darleen first - just becz she was found first. dad was found hours later due to the fact that once a body is found to be murdered - you have to close the scene and get a warrent to search further =- that is what I was told. took a few hours to do that and that was when they searched for my dad and found him in the pole-barn.

A and X broke-up just a few months ago.. maybe june.. and A has new boyfriend.. another charector that worked at the same tree service they ALL worked at.. (dad, A, X..and now new) Funny how they were going to marry and 6 months after they break up and now BRAND NEW boyfriend - in line...

[Dark Knight]

That is an interesting point about the gunshot comment. I would think the LE knows/thinks the same as you... One would hope. LE said there have been 2 profilers who reviewed this case - from different areas and not knowing one-another.. LE will not express that report to me.. I know when I was on the property I would not wait to get away once that sun went down....
LE won't tell you many of the details because they don't know what you might pass along to your sister, etc. I'd never trust a family member with that info, anyways, no matter what they said.

[William R Thomas]

To be fair, she did add "a security system" to her list of renovations. *shrugs* It ain't much I realize, lol.

I saw that. But wouldn't it be the first thing you said, and not an afterthought?

[blaize]

From The Farmer's Exchange Sale Calendar on 5th October 2006 (http://tinyurl.com/he5vs)

Oct. 3, 4:30 p.m.

Estates of Terry & Darlene Anderson, 8 miles east of LaGrange, Ind. on US 20 to SR 3, then north 2½ miles to CR 250N, then west 1¾ miles to 6270 East CR 250N. Strawser Auctions AC68700183 by Michael G. Strawser AU01036470, Auct.
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I asume the family knew about this & hopefully were able to take some personal mementos from the property.

blaize

[blaize]

Story 1 Link (http://tinyurl.com/q896e)

Posted on Tue, Nov. 01, 2005
Angela Mapes/The Journal Gazette

A memorial stands in front of Terry and Darleen Anderson’s home near Mongo. Police say the couple were killed late Oct. 20 or early Oct. 21.

A search for answers, justice in Mongo deaths

By Angela Mapes

The Journal Gazette

MONGO – Eric Musilek usually visited his father-in-law, Terry Anderson, to go hunting and fishing.

On Oct. 21, he went to Anderson’s Mongo home charged with a much more chilling task – cleaning up the scene of a double homicide.

Terry Anderson, 59, and his wife, Darleen, 57, were found dead by their daughter, Amanda, on the morning of Oct. 21. The crime remains under investigation, and no suspects have been charged.

On Monday, police in LaGrange County sent out a list of some of the items taken from the Andersons, asking the public to contact them if they’ve seen any, most of which were weapons used in hunting.

Police told Musilek, who is married to Terry Anderson’s daughter, Sherry, that he could hire a cleaning service to clean the Anderson house. Musilek said he wanted the scene treated with respect.

“They were stripped of their dig