Could you know this girl?

[teonspaleprincess]

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/81ufar.html

[Camper]

I have sent this link to my email line, it is far reaching.

Someone is grieving for this young lady and wondering where she is.

It is a small world, can we all do anything less than to email it on?

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[annemc2]

There was a thread about this girl in the Cold Cases section awhile back. Of course, it too went cold, with so little info to go on. I think about this girl often, and wonder who she really was. It really boggles the mind to see how many unidentified people there are out there. No one exists in a vacuum.

[dottierainbow]

It's hard to believe no one has come forward on this one. How many woman do you know that are 5'11"? That alone would make her stand out.

[teonspaleprincess]

I have spent hours going over missing persons in Florida, since that is where she is expected to be from. I cannot find anyone that even resembles her. My guess is that she isn't on a missing persons list, maybe a foster child who fell through the cracks. She is probably listed as shorter if she is reported missing, seeing as she had been on her own for a few years and probably grew taller during her teen years.

[Camper]

I don't know the figures, but am guessing that most everyone has a computer and email these days.

What a great venue to alert people about the missing than to send an email to all of your personal email lists. Then everyone passes it on when all people get the email. Emails from friends are read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU all have those email addresses of friends who receive goodies from you, jokes, recipes or special information, etc., your friends have addresses of other folks that you may not be aware of, friendships spread throughout the GLOBE.

Somewhere a mother or father are using their email everyday, and sitting and suffering from worry about a missing family member.

WE the people have a vehicle for alerting others about missing people, I think people will care enough to look at the links with information on found and unidentified missing people. OR freshly missing individuals.

The world has become a much smaller place for us, it is up to us all to help in this process.

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[*02]

This reminds me of the Sharon Marshall case, you know someone out there knows who she really is. Where are they, when will they come forward?

[christine2448]

I will put her on my MySpace page and add her to the blog. Have several to add this weekend. You would be amazed out how many people get to see the information I have posted there and everyone that has me on their 'friends' list get's to see her picture once it's posted and everyone that views anyone's page I am associated with will see her picture. There are all kinds of people working on MySpace to find the missing and UID'd. From housewives to PI's, from LE agencies to bounty hunters.

http://www.myspace.com/do_u_recognize_me


Who knows, maybe someone will recognize her!

ETA: Maybe I will make her a page for herself...need to see how much info I can gather.

[teonspaleprincess]

Thank you so much. I really think that this is one person that can be identified. The pictures are clear and she is so pretty, maybe that will encourage people to take a closer look.

[teonspaleprincess]

I am doing a lot of bumping today, lol, but I want to keep some of these cases in the forefront, it is easy to forget about them the further they get in the back logs here.

[LisainWV]

I always keep this girl's image in my mind when I'm surfing through the missing files on Doe. From her story, she just sounded like a lost soul even while living and for her to be un id'ed seems so sad.

I agree that she's probably not listed as missing from anywhere.

[Sable]

When I first heard of this case, I thought maybe it could be Lisa Jane Borden missing from Big Spring TX. Unfortunately it's not likely they are a match because the eye color is different and the age is off. Lisa had brown eyes, the UID had blue eyes, and Lisa would have been 31 when the UID was found.

[teonspaleprincess]

I definately don't think it is Lisa, the look is much different from the pictures I have seen of Lisa. A while back, there was a thread about a lot of unidentified pictures that may have been victims of a killer, and I swear one looked like Lisa but I can't find the thread.

[LisainWV]

What about this girl?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcginness_kelli.html

Some of the aliases the Doe used are similar??

Height is off quite a bit....

[kittykat1]

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/81ufar.html



For someone who is unidentified, they sure do have a lot of pictures of her! What do you think??

[SeriouslySearching]

Thanks, Lisa! They do have a lot of photos...but they seem to know a lot about her, where she has been, where she worked, who she lived with...just not her real identity. It sounds like she was quite a little con artist if they believe she was wanted for Bank Robbery etc.

[Salem]

What about this girl?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcginness_kelli.html

Some of the aliases the Doe used are similar??

Height is off quite a bit....

Lisa - did you call this one in? I put the pictures side by side and if you take the younger picture from the Doe network and compare it to the last picture in the top row of the Charleyproject - it is pretty uncanny. The young lady has a very distinctive nose and hair line. I think this is a pretty good match and definitly worth calling in.

Salem

[teonspaleprincess]

I called it in, but I never heard back. Maybe one of us should call and ask for an update?

[*02]

there is quite a big discrepancy in age here:
Kelli:
Missing Since: June 28, 1983 from Seattle, Washington
Classification: Endangered Missing
Date Of Birth: April 17, 1965
Age: 18 years old

UID:
Located on July 10, 1991 in El Dorado, Union County, Arkansas
Estimated age: 18 - 21 years old

Kelli was 18 in 1983 and our UID was estimated to be 18 in 1991?

[teonspaleprincess]

The Summerfield Jane Doe was close to 30 and they estimated her to be between 18-21. I wouldn't discount her based on age. They look so much alike!!!

[dannyodie]

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=211573507

unless a friend or family member is logging in. it appears someone logged onto her myspace account 4 days after she went missing?

[Hiker]

It is becoming more common for LE to contact Myspace and to be allowed into an account to check for clues when people go missing. A single log-in doesn't necessarily mean anything. Multiple log-in probably do.

[mel36]

What about this girl?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcginness_kelli.html

Some of the aliases the Doe used are similar??

Height is off quite a bit....

Her pimp reported her missing?? First time I have ever heard of a caring pimp lol sorry but didn't the cops think that was odd sounds like the pimp was affraid of being fingered for her disapearance if someone else reported her missing.

[MeoW333]

"A detective found a copy of a letter sent from the police to the FBI stating that the suspect had said that her name was "Kelly Lee Carr" age 24, and that she was wanted in Virginia and along the East Coast for bank robbery."
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/81ufar.html

So was this doe wanted for bank robbery on the eastern seaboard? Could they fingerprint her and see if any sealed juvenile records come up? Maybe if she had a juvenile record it would be under her real name..

[Fairy1]

This girl has always been my 1st choice:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcginness_kelli.html

[Medusa]

This girl has always been my 1st choice:

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/m/mcginness_kelli.html

I agree - I have long thought this - does anyone know if this has been called in, or if yes, has there been any answer Kelli McGinness looks SOOO much like Jane Doe.

[Zanko]

Here is a side by side comparison. Kelly McGinness was reported missing in 1983. This Jane Doe was found in 1991. She would be 8 years older. I, too, think it's a likely match. I'm thrown off by the age and height, but in the past this things have been reported wrong. Kelly McGinness' height may have been a guess by a family member???

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z99/Zanko123/KellyCarrKellyMcGinness.jpg

[ineedtoreadthenews]

If that isn't her, it's her identical twin. I'd be surprised if it hadn't been checked, but you should call it in.

[believe09]

Someone call it in! At least they will tell you if Kelly McGinniss has already been ruled out....

[christine2448]

Has Kelly/UID been submitted as possible match to LE yet? By whom?

If not I'd be happy to take care of.

[kylie]

Jane Doe has a long history and I think the "18-21" age range is way understated. This looks like a good match. Jane Doe looks much older- 28-35 in my opinion- so I think this should be submitted.

[Mr. E]

I thought those were two photos of the same woman when I clicked on the comparison photo.

[bluestarzz]

that sure looks like a match to me !!!!!
bluestarzz

[chaddylex]

Wow!! Sure looks like a match!! Turn it in!!

chaddylex:)

[christine2448]

I will submit possible match in the morning if no one answers me about it being turned in by then. I will get as much info I can on the UID. The nose and the wieght of Kelli vs the many pics of UID is off for me. However, I stink at comparing by pics.

[Reality Orlando]

Not sure if this will work or help, but I transposed one image over the other...looks goofy but you can see that the eyes and nose match up perfectly.

http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c32/menonemo/KellyCarrKellyMcGinness-copy.gif

[passionategray]

Here is a side by side comparison. Kelly McGinness was reported missing in 1983. This Jane Doe was found in 1991. She would be 8 years older. I, too, think it's a likely match. I'm thrown off by the age and height, but in the past this things have been reported wrong. Kelly McGinness' height may have been a guess by a family member???

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z99/Zanko123/KellyCarrKellyMcGinness.jpg

Oh. my. gosh. They are identical!

Not just the nose, the chin, the jaw, the lips, the hair line...

If she is as old as they say, then it's very possible that she has lost weight in between the pictures.

I will be shocked if this is not the same girl.

[Vask]

That side by side did it for me.

[jules19osu]

I have this potential match as ruled out by Union County Coroner Dentals back in February of 2004 from a list of ruled outs I have. It looked so promising!! :-(

[passionategray]

I have this potential match as ruled out by Union County Coroner Dentals back in February of 2004 from a list of ruled outs I have. It looked so promising!! :-(

Aw, that's sad. :( It did... the same lifestyle, same use of aliases, same LOOK. I wish it would've been her.

[believe09]

Christine wanted me to post that the Coroner stated Kelli was ruled out. It might require a more detailed discussion with the detective because Kelli has no DNA on file, so it must have been something pretty strong that ruled her out...like prints or dentals.

[youshouldveknown]

Just a side note about the pimp reporting her missing.

It says she was a high class hooker, meaning she worked for the more wealthy people. A pimp making $500-1000 a john is more likely to miss a girl than a pimp making $10-20 a john. Think of Heidi Fleiss - she took care of her girls because they took care of her. A run-of-the-mill low end pimp isn't going to care that much because it's not worth it to him.

Just my thoughts on that. I've always had a wierd fascination with prostitutes and I never knew why. I never wanted to BE one, but I always thought they were interesting. A few years back my grandmother told me about her aunt - a high class hooker with fur coats and diamonds and a new car (in WWII era). I told her 'maybe that's why I love prostitutes' and my grandmother said 'I always have too.' Haha.

[future criminologist]

Just a side note about the pimp reporting her missing.

It says she was a high class hooker, meaning she worked for the more wealthy people. A pimp making $500-1000 a john is more likely to miss a girl than a pimp making $10-20 a john. Think of Heidi Fleiss - she took care of her girls because they took care of her. A run-of-the-mill low end pimp isn't going to care that much because it's not worth it to him.

Just my thoughts on that. I've always had a wierd fascination with prostitutes and I never knew why. I never wanted to BE one, but I always thought they were interesting. A few years back my grandmother told me about her aunt - a high class hooker with fur coats and diamonds and a new car (in WWII era). I told her 'maybe that's why I love prostitutes' and my grandmother said 'I always have too.' Haha.

ME TOO! I thought I was the only one with this fascination...

my thoughts on this are: our UID was probably never reported missing, if she was the con artist that she seems to be, if those that knew her real identity thought that she had left willingly. So I don't know that looking in missing persons files would necessarily help.

I really do think it will just have to be a "do you recognize this girl from 1990" posting everywhere and see if a relative or someone happens to recognize the picture. maybe if a publication of some sort wrote a story on the mystery.

[christine2448]

Christine wanted me to post that the Coroner stated Kelli was ruled out. It might require a more detailed discussion with the detective because Kelli has no DNA on file, so it must have been something pretty strong that ruled her out...like prints or dentals.

I am not sure if you are giving the DNA info based on our tele earlier....I meant to state that the UID does NOT have DNA in CODIS as far as the coroner remembered but LE has the file and I couldn't get the det. while on lunch today, coroner said they hold all info and I should speak with them to get more details.

I'm working on it.

[Blackwatch]

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/81ufar.html

How about this one for a match - the age is close, the height is not too far off, she did dabble in prostitution, lots of "sames".
http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/trollinger_nikki.html

Let me know what you think.

[Fairy1]

Here is a side by side comparison. Kelly McGinness was reported missing in 1983. This Jane Doe was found in 1991. She would be 8 years older. I, too, think it's a likely match. I'm thrown off by the age and height, but in the past this things have been reported wrong. Kelly McGinness' height may have been a guess by a family member???

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z99/Zanko123/KellyCarrKellyMcGinness.jpg

I cannot believe this isn't a match - look at them! I would have to assume they had fingerprints on both of these ladies, based on their lifestyles. But mistakes can be made and I do feel this is one possible that may need a bit of a push for a definite rule out. Thanks, Zanko, for the side-by-side!

[christine2448]

I cannot believe this isn't a match - look at them! I would have to assume they had fingerprints on both of these ladies, based on their lifestyles. But mistakes can be made and I do feel this is one possible that may need a bit of a push for a definite rule out. Thanks, Zanko, for the side-by-side!

We don't give up easy. I plan on talking to det tomorrow and getting SPECIFICS. ;)

[Fairy1]

We don't give up easy. I plan on talking to det tomorrow and getting SPECIFICS. ;)

Thank God for you!!! :blowkiss: