Woman found off 320 in Franklin County GA

[Pandora]

http://www.wneg32.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WNEG/MGArticle/NEG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173351197669&path=

Unidentified as yet. The body has been there for awhile--current estimate 3 years. I drove this road right past her for years! :(

[PrayersForMaura]

How sad. :(
I always think about Tara Grinstead when I hear about a woman found in Georgia.

Prayers for the family of this poor victim. :(

[CarpeDiem]

How sad. :(
I always think about Tara Grinstead when I hear about a woman found in Georgia.

Prayers for the family of this poor victim. :(

OMG, I was thinking Tara too, especially since the victim has been there awhile. They must know it is a woman based on clothes?

[englishleigh]

Yep, thinking Tara here, too.

I'm in Alabama but I can't place Franklin County in GA. How close is this to Ocilla?

[all4tara]

About 270 miles NNE of Ocilla. Very close to South Carolina border, I think.

Yep, thinking Tara here, too.

I'm in Alabama but I can't place Franklin County in GA. How close is this to Ocilla?

[englishleigh]

About 270 miles NNE of Ocilla. Very close to South Carolina border, I think.

Thanks. So, far enough away to make it less likely that it's Tara, but it definitely still could be.

[concernedperson]

Thanks. So, far enough away to make it less likely that it's Tara, but it definitely still could be.

With all the strange undercurrents in Tara's case it could be her. So many layers that GBI is having a heck of a time sifting through all the nuances and people.

[nanandjim]

The article says, "The GBI hopes to have a clothing description of what the victim was last wearing by Tuesday."

Today is Tuesday. I hope that they reveal the clothing. Would this help to determine if it were Tara? Has it been reported what she may have been wearing last?

[less0305]

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/may/14/womans-skeletal-remains-found-near-interstate-85/

[christine2448]

http://www.wneg32.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WNEG/MGArticle/NEG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1173351197669&path=

Unidentified as yet. The body has been there for awhile--current estimate 3 years. I drove this road right past her for years! :(

Pandora, is this the same story?? Or another body? This one is in Dekalb?

Dismembered Body Found In DeKalb

POSTED: 8:35 am EDT May 15, 2007
UPDATED: 12:12 pm EDT May 15, 2007

DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- NOON UPDATE: Investigators are checking a nearby landfill to see if any body parts were dumped there.


10:00 UPDATE: Police say children on their way to school discovered the body.


Police are investigating a dismembered body found in a DeKalb County neighborhood Tuesday morning.

Investigators told Channel 2's Tiffani Reynolds the body was found in the 2000 block of Charter Road.

A can of gasoline was found near the body, indicating someone may have planned to burn the body, according to police.

Check back with wsbtv.com for more on this developing story.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13321178/detail.html

I don't believe it is.....I will start a thread for this one......scary!!!!!

[MagicRose99]

Sounds like two different ones to me... first one (this thread - link in first post)
<snip>
....residents found the remains Sunday while working in the woods off of Akin Road and Highway 320. ....

and the second one found off Charter Road...

[JDB]

Pandora, is this the same story?? Or another body? This one is in Dekalb?

Dismembered Body Found In DeKalb

POSTED: 8:35 am EDT May 15, 2007
UPDATED: 12:12 pm EDT May 15, 2007

DEKALB COUNTY, Ga. -- NOON UPDATE: Investigators are checking a nearby landfill to see if any body parts were dumped there.


10:00 UPDATE: Police say children on their way to school discovered the body.


Police are investigating a dismembered body found in a DeKalb County neighborhood Tuesday morning.

Investigators told Channel 2's Tiffani Reynolds the body was found in the 2000 block of Charter Road.

A can of gasoline was found near the body, indicating someone may have planned to burn the body, according to police.

Check back with wsbtv.com for more on this developing story.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/13321178/detail.html

I don't believe it is.....I will start a thread for this one......scary!!!!!

Yes now we have two bodies showing up in Ga.

[concernedperson]

The article says, "The GBI hopes to have a clothing description of what the victim was last wearing by Tuesday."

Today is Tuesday. I hope that they reveal the clothing. Would this help to determine if it were Tara? Has it been reported what she may have been wearing last?

Yes, it would. The FBI VICAP site says it is assumed that Tara was wearing Grey New balance shoes and black sweat pants. That site is the only site reporting what she may have been wearing as much about this case is very tight lipped.

[Pandora]

Carnesville--where the first body in this thread was located--has two exits off I-85. The body was found at the intersection of 320, so it was the fourth exit from the South Carolina line.
DeKalb county is about 60 miles south on I-85 from Carnesville.

The area in Carnesville is very rural. Franklin County has the distinction of being the poultry capital of the world! There are millions more chickens than people! :)

To my knowledge, there are no missing persons in FC. I'd guess this is a body dump from the interstate. Hopefully, it won't take to long to ID. :(

[concernedperson]

Carnesville--where the first body in this thread was located--has two exits off I-85. The body was found at the intersection of 320, so it was the fourth exit from the South Carolina line.
DeKalb county is about 60 miles south on I-85 from Carnesville.

The area in Carnesville is very rural. Franklin County has the distinction of being the poultry capital of the world! There are millions more chickens than people! :)

To my knowledge, there are no missing persons in FC. I'd guess this is a body dump from the interstate. Hopefully, it won't take to long to ID. :(

Please be sure and listen to your local news for any clothing description. TIA.

[Pandora]

Please be sure and listen to your local news for any clothing description. TIA.

I actually don't live there anymore, but I read the papers everyday.

Ironically, the local Franklin County Jail is only about a mile down the road from where the body was found.

[concernedperson]

I actually don't live there anymore, but I read the papers everyday.

Ironically, the local Franklin County Jail is only about a mile down the road from where the body was found.

I see. I have been checking and no update yet.

[christine2448]

Sounds like two different ones to me... first one (this thread - link in first post)
<snip>
....residents found the remains Sunday while working in the woods off of Akin Road and Highway 320. ....

and the second one found off Charter Road...

Hiya Magic...yeah, duh, I wasn't reading very well.

Here is the thread on the dismembered body...no info yet.

http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49474

[angelwngs]

http://www.examiner.com/a-728691~Skeletal_remains_found_near_Interstate_85.h tml

The special agent in charge of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation's Athens office -- John Heinen -- says it could be a few days before a forensic anthropologist with the agency is able to determine the person's identity, age and cause of death. Heinen says officials have determined that the remains are those of a woman.

Map of area and more info at link above.

[angelwngs]

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/may/15/agents-continue-investigate-skeletal-remains-found/

Agents continue to investigate skeletal remains found near I-85

So far, about 40 percent of the remains have been recovered. Mr. Heinen said it’s still too soon to determine if foul play is involved. The remains have been identified by forensic anthropologist Rick Snow as that of a woman. He estimated the bones have been there for at least three years. More of the remains must be found before work can begin on making a positive identification.
For now, investigators can do nothing but stand and wait until the rest of the creek is drained, a process they hope will be completed today.
“Then we’ve got the terrain to deal with after that ... It’s going to be another messy day for us,” Mr. Heinen said.
He said they have had a number of calls from law enforcement agencies and families who reported missing persons going back three years or more, but as long the rest of the bones remain buried in the mud, there’s little chance of finding out who the woman is.

[concernedperson]

http://www.examiner.com/a-728691~Skeletal_remains_found_near_Interstate_85.h tml

The special agent in charge of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation's Athens office -- John Heinen -- says it could be a few days before a forensic anthropologist with the agency is able to determine the person's identity, age and cause of death. Heinen says officials have determined that the remains are those of a woman.

Map of area and more info at link above.

That article was May 15th. Hopefully there will be some news today. Someone's family needs to have answers on what happened to their loved one.

[angelwngs]

Yes. May 15th. No updates so far in todays news. All Articles posted so far say Tuesday at the earliest for identification using remains and clothing found from what I have read so far. This one looked even less promising as far as any possible identification...with remains found at present...

[angelwngs]

UPDATE: 5/17/2007 -Skeletal remains discovered in Carnesville swamp:


http://www.franklincountycitizen.com/articles/2007/05/17/news/news01.txt

Although some bones have been located, the skull is not among the recovered remains.

Thomas also said that there were no records of missing females in Franklin County, as of press time.

Although officials are not sure of the age of the body, they said that the remains have been in the swampy area for approximately three years.

[gagal]

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/may/16/search-continues-parts-womans-skeleton/

They now say they think she died between 2005 and February of this year. They said 2 people are still missing from Georgia in that time (probably Tara Grinstead and Leslie Adams). I still say though if it could have been as late as February of this year that they should also consider Theresa Parker, the 911 operator, that went missing at the end of March b/c that would not even be 2 months later than their timeframe and they could be off. There are things that could be done to speed the decompensation process like burning parts of the body and skin before dumping the bones, which could have made the scatter of bones happen faster, or dismembering the body parts. Maybe they will at least look into this possibility if it turns out not to be Tara or Leslie............

[Pandora]

The Anderson Independent Mail posted an update at 6:00 this evening:
http://www.andersonindependent-mail.com/news/2007/may/17/police-turn-missing-persons-list-i
dentify-body-fou/

Basically, there wasn't much to update!

[angelwngs]

Pandora, The link isn't working for me. Please see if it still works for you... Thank you.

[concernedperson]

I found this article. The search has been discontinued and GBI can only make a general description which isn't released.

http://www.independentmail.com/news/2007/may/17/police-turn-missing-persons-list-identify-body-fou/

[s_finch]

Yes now we have two bodies showing up in Ga.

Actually, that makes 3 female bodies when you count the one found last month in Augusta. That one had been there for approximately 3 months but they haven't revealed any other info.

[Pandora]

Pandora, The link isn't working for me. Please see if it still works for you... Thank you.

Sorry, AW. CP got it in the follow up post. Thanks CP!

[concernedperson]

I got a google alert and it said that GBI needed help identifying the remains. It was on onlineAthens.com but it won't let me register. Can someone else try ? Thanks.

[ipswitch]

I got a google alert and it said that GBI needed help identifying the remains. It was on onlineAthens.com but it won't let me register. Can someone else try ? Thanks.

http://onlineathens.com/stories/052207/news_20070522056.shtml

I am registered at onlineAthens and here is the clothing description...

The clothing includes a pair of black Reebok Classic high-top tennis shoes, woman's size 81/2; a medium size, dark colored, long-sleeved Chesley brand sweater; a pair of size 10, dark-colored Courtenay brand Capri pants; and a pair of white athletic socks with gray toes delineated by a green stripe. A breast implant also was found with the woman's remains.

There are pictures at the site of the clothing.

You could always try bugmenot for access cp!

[angelwngs]

With the sweater and capris, we can assume in this area the victim went missing in the Fall.

Capris wouldn't be usual attire for Winter and a sweater wouldn't be Spring or Summer.

The sweater looked to be open down the front, as if maybe a tee shirt of sorts could have been worn underneath. This could mean it was still warm enough during the day for a tee shirt and capris and in the evening a sweater was needed.

The high top tennis shoes and the capris have me in a quandry...

I just can't see Tara wearing capris and high top black tennis shoes...



In fact, from all photographs I have ever seen, I can't see her in the button down the front sweater with tee shirt underneath, with capris on either....

Would this fit Leslie Adams or Theresa Parker's style of dress more than Tara's?

The breast implants should have a serial number on it. Mine does. I have a card with the maker and serial number in my purse... and saw a Forensic Files show where they used this information to identify a body one time! I even joked with my husband that he could always fine me because of the Serial number on my implants!

[PrayersForMaura]

did Tara have breast implants?

[jodierenee]

I'm betting tara is smaller than a size 10. Not that that's big, but tara is tiny.

[all4tara]

This could be Leslie Adams, according to GBI statement:

http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/index.php?s=&url_channel_id=1&url_article_id=28251&url_subchannel_id=&change_well_id=2

I note that Lilburn, GA is only 60-70 miles from where the body was found, and Interstate 85 would be the connecting road.

Prayers for a quick resolve.

[gagal]

http://www.ajc.com/gwinnett/content/metro/gwinnett/stories/2007/05/23/0524gwxadams.html

Here's another article that says they think it could be Leslie Adams. They said she did have breast augmentation. I truly hope this is her and they can bring charges against the boyfriend - he is in jail for related charges of provoking his parole after they found out he broke the restraining order by calling Leslie. He is due to be released in just a few months though.....If this is her she was found just in time.

[christine2448]

Investigators may be able to use the serial number on the breast implants to determine if they once belonged to Leslie Adams.

Adams, 40, was reported missing in October, 2005. Officers found a shell casing and blood in her apartment.

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=97457

Also, However, in Adams’ request (talking about the RO against Cook), she filled in a checklist of what she says Cook did to her, which included choking, hitting, stalking her, in addition to being jealous and controlling of her or threatening to kill her.

[angelwngs]

Investigators may be able to use the serial number on the breast implants to determine if they once belonged to Leslie Adams.

Adams, 40, was reported missing in October, 2005. Officers found a shell casing and blood in her apartment.

http://www.11alive.com/news/article_news.aspx?storyid=97457

Also, However, in Adams’ request (talking about the RO against Cook), she filled in a checklist of what she says Cook did to her, which included choking, hitting, stalking her, in addition to being jealous and controlling of her or threatening to kill her.

Today, I posted a link on the Leslie Adams thread, to an article which states that the Gwinnett Police say there was no serial number found...on the implant found with the remains and that investigators are looking into the doctor's records who performed the procedure on Leslie Adams in order to contact the manufacturer so that investigators can make comparisons in the type of implant the doctor used on Leslie and the one found near the remains to identify any similarities between the implants...

[christine2448]

Today, I posted a link on the Leslie Adams thread, to an article which states that the Gwinnett Police say there was no serial number found...on the implant found with the remains and that investigators are looking into the doctor's records who performed the procedure on Leslie Adams in order to contact the manufacturer so that investigators can make comparisons in the type of implant the doctor used on Leslie and the one found near the remains to identify any similarities between the implants...

Thanks for the update.

[Pandora]

A wee bit more information from the local paper:
http://www.franklincountycitizen.com/articles/2007/05/24/news/news01.txt

[Pandora]

http://www.andersonindependent-mail.com/news/2007/may/29/officials-look-dna-womans-identity/

Two months 'til the DNA results will be available. :(

[christine2448]

http://www.andersonindependent-mail.com/news/2007/may/29/officials-look-dna-womans-identity/

Two months 'til the DNA results will be available. :(

So, we wait.

[gagal]

Bumping.....just wondering if there is any news on the ID of these remains yet?

[Pandora]

The following article indicates that it may be up to 8 months until DNA test results are known. :(
http://www.missingabducted.com/2007/05/leslie_adams_bo.html

[christine2448]

I guess nothing yet?

[KR2tonenow]

Actually, that makes 3 female bodies when you count the one found last month in Augusta. That one had been there for approximately 3 months but they haven't revealed any other info.

What the big secrecy? There should be DNA matches from the bones. This is becoming a pattern. :doh:

I also keep thinking about the mother and daughter recently who went missing from Georgia.

If any of these are Tara Grinstead, I would certainly hope that her parents are pushing for expediency for identification purposes.

[KR2tonenow]

The following article indicates that it may be up to 8 months until DNA test results are known. :(
http://www.missingabducted.com/2007/05/leslie_adams_bo.html


Thanks for the article, why does it take so long for the DNA?

[Pandora]

GBI has a serious backlog of material for DNA tests. :(

[concernedperson]

GBI has a serious backlog of material for DNA tests. :(

Yes, and it is extremely discouraging.

[KR2tonenow]

another case that will go cold, darn!

[angelwngs]

Bumping Thread in light of similarities to the body of missing hiker found in Ga.

Apparently this female is still unidentified and still no head/skull has been located...

Sounds awfully simialar to the Emerson case to me!

[Pharlap]

Bumping Thread in light of similarities to the body of missing hiker found in Ga.

Apparently this female is still unidentified and still no head/skull has been located...

Sounds awfully similar to the Emerson case to me!


Good idea. Throw this one into the mix...

[concernedperson]

It sure is close to Hilton's areas of travel.

[SeriouslySearching]

I hope this isn't just the tip of the iceberg with Hilton...but could very well be.

Glad you brought this one back up. Now THIS is the kind of tip that LE needs to be getting!

[angelwngs]

I hope this isn't just the tip of the iceberg with Hilton...but could very well be.

Glad you brought this one back up. Now THIS is the kind of tip that LE needs to be getting!

Exactly...

[ThoughtFox]

I'm glad you drew attention to this thread, since there was a decapitation! That is shockingly close to where this guy in the Emerson murder was roaming around.

[close_enough]

I'm glad you drew attention to this thread, since there was a decapitation! That is shockingly close to where this guy in the Emerson murder was roaming around.

exactly what i thought, as soon as i read the head/skull was not with the other remains....

[concernedperson]

exactly what i thought, as soon as i read the head/skull was not with the other remains....

Animals scatter could have been responsible for movement of the bones but they can tell if it is decapitation vs. disarticulation. After all these months one would have hope they had an ID. I wonder if the perp picked up a hitchhiker and we may never know who the remains belong too. Some family somewhere is waiting for news.