View Full Version : Lindsay Lohan busted for DUI *merged threads*
lymom3
05-26-2007, 07:11 PM
She really learned a lot from rehab, didn't she?
http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/26/lohan-busted-for-dui/
Lindsay Lohan was cited for investigation of driving under the influence Saturday and was slightly injured when her Mercedes struck a curb, police told the Associated Press.
Lohan, 20, and two other passengers were in her 2005 Mercedes SL-65 convertible when it crashed at about 5:30 AM into a curb on Sunset Blvd, Sgt. Mike Foxen told the AP.
philamena
05-26-2007, 07:14 PM
Lindsay Lohan is such a joke. She's pathetic, really.
Olivia77
05-26-2007, 07:16 PM
I'd like to say this may be her wakeup call, but she's headed for destruction.
No surprise that this happened, just that it didn't happen sooner.
Texana
05-26-2007, 07:18 PM
But she's not an alcoholic! She said so after she went into rehab and went to those A/A meetings!
Seriously, give her a paddle so she can go down the River Denial.
So much talent and so much screwed up head mess.
Maybe she wants to be a true friend to Paris and join her in her jail cell. :rolleyes:
There's supposed to be a press conference in about 10 minutes with the sheriff's dept that will be aired on Fox News, if anyone is interested. I believe it's at 4:30 PDT.
philamena
05-26-2007, 07:26 PM
But she's not an alcoholic! She said so after she went into rehab and went to those A/A meetings!
Seriously, give her a paddle so she can go down the River Denial.
So much talent and so much screwed up head mess.
Well said.:clap:
Lauren
05-26-2007, 08:23 PM
What a shocker. All addicts go clubbing. She needs some serious help!:sick:
narlacat
05-26-2007, 08:36 PM
But she's not an alcoholic! She said so after she went into rehab and went to those A/A meetings!
Seriously, give her a paddle so she can go down the River Denial.
So much talent and so much screwed up head mess.
Hehe- funny- paddled that river myself many times lol
lymom3
05-26-2007, 10:14 PM
It gets even better...no surprise.
http://www.tmz.com/2007/05/26/coke-found-in-lohan-dui-invesitagation/
In a press conference this afternoon about the arrest of Lindsay Lohan, cops say they found a "usable amount" of a drug they say was cocaine at the scene. Lt. Mitch McCann of the Beverly Hills Police Department would not say where the drug was found but it was "not on her person."
Marthatex
05-26-2007, 10:40 PM
That girl needs a serious intervention. She's going to end up like Anna Nicole.
Lauren
05-26-2007, 11:00 PM
This is why child stars need stable parents and supervision. Who lets their child go to clubs after rehab and play it all down for the mom's own career moves. Dad's just got out of prison for fraud. Great role models. She needs to learn her lessons in order to LIVE! Get away from bad influences and do your time with no complaints. Show remorse and seek help.
$5.00 she won't do it.
crash676
05-27-2007, 12:07 AM
She should just wave her trial and bunk with Paris. So sad this girl has real talent but sad excuses for parents who taught her nothing about life apparently.. What a waste..
Ntegrity
05-27-2007, 12:15 PM
I hope she'll get the help she so desperately needs. :( Money and fame can be such a curse for young, immature people like this.
close_enough
05-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Lindsay Lohan is such a joke. She's pathetic, really.
my thoughts exactly....
jilly
05-27-2007, 02:54 PM
Please excuse my ignorance - but what does it mean when you're arrested for "suspicion" of dui?
Are they waiting for test results or what?
ETA - never mind - I just got my answer:
http://www.tmz.com/
crash676
05-27-2007, 03:20 PM
I m guessing it meant she refued to take the breathalzyer. Just a guess.
I feel sorry for Lindsay Lohan. I think she has a mother who has exploited and misguided her, her whole life. Her father just got out of jail and has a history of irratic behavior. I hope this is the event that puts Lindsay on the road to finding her own health and happiness. In many ways I believe she is a victim.
mjak
cynpat2000
05-27-2007, 04:09 PM
Lindsay Lohan is such a joke. She's pathetic, really.I agree. And to think shes in 2 childrens movies, Herbie full loaded and Mean girls and young girls looking up to her. I have gotten to where I wont let my daughter watch anything shes in, my daughter is only 8 and sure doesnt need something like her as a role model.
Maybe the mods should make this a sticky so we don't have to repost it the next time it happens..................
lymom3
05-27-2007, 05:04 PM
I agree. And to think shes in 2 childrens movies, Herbie full loaded and Mean girls and young girls looking up to her. I have gotten to where I wont let my daughter watch anything shes in, my daughter is only 8 and sure doesnt need something like her as a role model.
I liked her in Parent Trap. I thought she was cute in that but she's gone down hill since then for sure. Her parents sure aren't any kind of role models for her. I feel sorry for her and her upbringing but at the same times she's old enough to know better. I guess part of it too is she probably doesn't have a clue about "real" life. I don't know any 20 year old girls that behave the way the spoiled girls in Hollywood do. I know they all think they are invincible at that age.
I really hope that Lindsay, Paris and Britney can come to their senses and keep from ruining their lives...I'm sure there are more that I'm missing but those are the 3 that come to mind. In my younger days I've been one of those wild girls on a course for destruction and being out of contol like that does not feel good.
narlacat
05-27-2007, 05:47 PM
Just wondering how Herbie is- was he okay- did he go bananas- lol
Anngelique
05-27-2007, 07:03 PM
I liked her in Parent Trap. I thought she was cute in that but she's gone down hill since then for sure. Her parents sure aren't any kind of role models for her. I feel sorry for her and her upbringing but at the same times she's old enough to know better. I guess part of it too is she probably doesn't have a clue about "real" life. I don't know any 20 year old girls that behave the way the spoiled girls in Hollywood do. I know they all think they are invincible at that age.
I really hope that Lindsay, Paris and Britney can come to their senses and keep from ruining their lives...I'm sure there are more that I'm missing but those are the 3 that come to mind. In my younger days I've been one of those wild girls on a course for destruction and being out of contol like that does not feel good.
I thought she was phenomanal in Parent Trap. In fact she was brilliant! But she really did go down hill. It's so sad. In fact in a LOT of ways she makes Britney look like an angel or a nun. I think Lindsay is way worse and her mother seems to totally be part of her ruining.
Tom'sGirl
05-27-2007, 07:23 PM
Maybe the mods should make this a sticky so we don't have to repost it the next time it happens..................
Now, that was funny poco :D
I'm guessing it will happen again, and the worst part is I think she eats up on the attention even if it's bad :(
Inchworm
05-27-2007, 07:36 PM
When Lindsay's publicity hound returns to work on Tuesday, everything will be explained....
Lindsay is innocent because:
1. She didn't know she was drinking alcohol. Somebody must have spiked Lindsay's drink.
2. She was out at 5:30 a.m. because she was on her way to church. She wanted to get a good seat before the crowd arrived.
3. Mark Furman planted the cocaine in Lindsay's car.
4. She wasn't driving. Lindsay would never drive so recklessly as to cause an accident.
5. It was really Britney in a wig.
In fact, Lindsay wasn't even in the state. A overzealous fan who looks just like Lindsay was in the accident.
Aside from the moral implications- drinking or not drinking, binging etc... what behooves me (God it's fun to use that word- sorry got sidetracked :rolleyes:)- but with all the money these celeb's have- why don't they hire a personal driver and be done with it? :waitasec: Doesn't make much sense but then again, I have to remember who we are talking about- pure stupidity imho!~:bang:
philamena
05-27-2007, 08:45 PM
Aside from the moral implications- drinking or not drinking, binging etc... what behooves me (God it's fun to use that word- sorry got sidetracked :rolleyes:)- but with all the money these celeb's have- why don't they hire a personal driver and be done with it? :waitasec: Doesn't make much sense but then again, I have to remember who we are talking about- pure stupidity imho!~:bang:
Excellent point Mimi. Lohan should have considered hailing a cab or hiring a driver before getting behind the wheel after having a drink. Of course explaining the cocaine may have still been a problem for her. :p
kazzbar
05-28-2007, 03:57 AM
Just wondering how Herbie is- was he okay- did he go bananas- lol
Yep, went bananas and now he's working the Strip at night waiting for his next movie role....
Malapoo
05-28-2007, 08:02 AM
Excellent point Mimi. Lohan should have considered hailing a cab or hiring a driver before getting behind the wheel after having a drink. Of course explaining the cocaine may have still been a problem for her. :p
Another helpful note: When you wreck and leave the scene, take the cocaine with you and dump it in the trash can outside the hospital. :loser:
But she's not an alcoholic! She said so after she went into rehab and went to those A/A meetings!
Seriously, give her a paddle so she can go down the River Denial.
So much talent and so much screwed up head mess.
She isn't an alcoholic. She's a cokehead! :D (At least, that's what they found in the car.)
j2mirish
05-28-2007, 12:02 PM
Aside from the moral implications- drinking or not drinking, binging etc... what behooves me (God it's fun to use that word- sorry got sidetracked :rolleyes:)- but with all the money these celeb's have- why don't they hire a personal driver and be done with it? :waitasec: Doesn't make much sense but then again, I have to remember who we are talking about- pure stupidity imho!~:bang:
I was just going to post the same thing--why dont they hire someone???how fricking simple is that??
luvbeaches
05-28-2007, 03:17 PM
When Lindsay's publicity hound returns to work on Tuesday, everything will be explained....
Lindsay is innocent because:
1. She didn't know she was drinking alcohol. Somebody must have spiked Lindsay's drink.
2. She was out at 5:30 a.m. because she was on her way to church. She wanted to get a good seat before the crowd arrived.
3. Mark Furman planted the cocaine in Lindsay's car.
4. She wasn't driving. Lindsay would never drive so recklessly as to cause an accident.
5. It was really Britney in a wig.
In fact, Lindsay wasn't even in the state. A overzealous fan who looks just like Lindsay was in the accident.
LOL...That's good. It's never her fault. I think I remember hearing her say she's misunderstood...or something like that. What is sad is that she's heading down the same path as Anna Nicole. I just hope these idiots don't kill some innocent bystander...one of these days.
Tom'sGirl
05-28-2007, 04:30 PM
Just watched this and don't understand why she even had to drive? It shows one of her buds driving her wrecked car away so probably the SUV that she had been riding in was following her, dunno.
Raw Video From Lindsay Lohan's Night of Partying & Car Wreck (http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=012_1180273355)
Another helpful note: When you wreck and leave the scene, take the cocaine with you and dump it in the trash can outside the hospital. :loser:
No chit. Is she really that stupid? I think she's jealous that Paris is going to the slammer and wants to be there with her!:eek:
Malapoo
05-28-2007, 05:32 PM
No chit. Is she really that stupid? I think she's jealous that Paris is going to the slammer and wants to be there with her!:eek:
Maybe she wants to be her prison beech? :eek:
Maybe she wants to be her prison beech? :eek:
OMG, you made me choke on my Coca-Cola! I'm not kidding, I think my husband thought I was dying. Or rather hoping I was!!!!
That was too funny!!!:angel:
ziggy
05-28-2007, 06:28 PM
Please excuse my ignorance - but what does it mean when you're arrested for "suspicion" of dui?
Are they waiting for test results or what?
ETA - never mind - I just got my answer:
http://www.tmz.com/
Good question. I recently took the CA driver's test and one thing I learned was that you HAVE to submit to a blood test if requested by an officer...end of story.
Why is she not in jail overnight? I thought if you crashed your car and were impaired, you automatically went to jail.
I think she's getting special treatment and it really IRKS me.
Also, important to note: SHE'S NOT 21. HOW IS SHE GOING OUT CLUBBING?????
Texana
05-28-2007, 06:45 PM
She isn't an alcoholic. She's a cokehead! :D (At least, that's what they found in the car.)
Haha!
Although I think she said she wasn't an "addict."
Of course not, addicts are poor people who have no money, prostitute themselves and sleep in crack houses, right?
Marthatex
05-28-2007, 06:50 PM
I'm addicted to the internet, myself.
It's everyone els's fault too. You lure me here with gossip and up to the minute news.
There is no way that I come here and do this of my own free will. Just now, I thought my computer was completely off, and all of a sudden the screen "jumped on" right at Websleuths.com!!!!
Excellent point Mimi. Lohan should have considered hailing a cab or hiring a driver before getting behind the wheel after having a drink. Of course explaining the cocaine may have still been a problem for her. :p
LOL Good point but hey she would be able to dismiss the DUI charge!:rolleyes:
Details
05-28-2007, 08:04 PM
Good question. I recently took the CA driver's test and one thing I learned was that you HAVE to submit to a blood test if requested by an officer...end of story.
Why is she not in jail overnight? I thought if you crashed your car and were impaired, you automatically went to jail.
I think she's getting special treatment and it really IRKS me.
Also, important to note: SHE'S NOT 21. HOW IS SHE GOING OUT CLUBBING?????IIRC, the "HAVE TO" is you have to, or else you will be assumed to be DUI. But they can't tie you down and take it by force.
ziggy
05-28-2007, 08:14 PM
So, HAVE TO, or else you go directly to jail? Doesn't say she went to jail so maybe there was a blood test taken at the hospital and it takes how long to get results?
You know I would never, ever get the same consideration if I crashed my Saab into a tree, fled the scene and had cocaine in my car. PUUULEEEZ.
So, HAVE TO, or else you go directly to jail? Doesn't say she went to jail so maybe there was a blood test taken at the hospital and it takes how long to get results?
You know I would never, ever get the same consideration if I crashed my Saab into a tree, fled the scene and had cocaine in my car. PUUULEEEZ.
None of us would! We'd still be waiting for out bond hearing! Just remember to take this as a lesson from Lindsey. If you are driving drunk and crash, remember to take your cocaine and dispose of it before the cops find it!!!!!
jilly
05-28-2007, 08:37 PM
Good question. I recently took the CA driver's test and one thing I learned was that you HAVE to submit to a blood test if requested by an officer...end of story.
Why is she not in jail overnight? I thought if you crashed your car and were impaired, you automatically went to jail.
I think she's getting special treatment and it really IRKS me.
Also, important to note: SHE'S NOT 21. HOW IS SHE GOING OUT CLUBBING?????
Hi Ziggy! In the link I posted (which answered my question) it said that LE had taken blood samples and they were awaiting results so as to determine what was in her system.
Marthatex
05-28-2007, 09:24 PM
I was reading the newspaper today, and there was an article saying that teenagers should NOT drink AT ALL; the younger you start drinking the more likely you are to become addicted.
I was reading the newspaper today, and there was an article saying that teenagers should NOT drink AT ALL; the younger you start drinking the more likely you are to become addicted.
I believe that is true. Both of my parents were alcoholics. My mom died five years ago due to alcohol-related illnesses. My father is supposed to be a "recovering" alcoholic, but he likes his wine. Of course, he doesn't consider that to be alcohol.
I don't drink at all. Just the smell of beer makes me sick. Plus, I wouldn't want to subject my children to what I grew up with!
Marthatex
05-28-2007, 10:02 PM
I believe that is true. Both of my parents were alcoholics. My mom died five years ago due to alcohol-related illnesses. My father is supposed to be a "recovering" alcoholic, but he likes his wine. Of course, he doesn't consider that to be alcohol.
I don't drink at all. Just the smell of beer makes me sick. Plus, I wouldn't want to subject my children to what I grew up with!
That's very sad about your mother. A friend of ours (female) recently died of alcohol liver disease. I think every family is touched by it; my uncle died early because of it. It seems to affect women faster than men; women are smaller and don't usually metabolize it as well.
If there is an alcholic in the family (immediate), it is so hard on everyone.
Unfortunately young kids think they're going to live forever, and deny that it's affecting their liver and brain. They think, "Oh, I'll stop drinking soon.."
I think Lindsay already looks alot older; she used to be so cute. Sad.
Olivia77
05-28-2007, 10:09 PM
These were taken this morning. Wow...
http://x17online.com/celebrities/lindsay_lohan/x17_xclusive_the_real_lindsay_pix.php#more
Jeana (DP)
05-28-2007, 10:11 PM
Also, important to note: SHE'S NOT 21. HOW IS SHE GOING OUT CLUBBING?????
DING, DING, DING!!! WE have a winner!!! Post of the year!:woohoo: :woohoo:
IF "someone" at the police department was doing their job, they could very easily figure out that these kids are getting served and fine the crap out of these clubs.
Peter Hamilton
05-28-2007, 10:51 PM
These were taken this morning. Wow...
http://x17online.com/celebrities/lindsay_lohan/x17_xclusive_the_real_lindsay_pix.php#more--Why,she looks perfectly fine in those pictures heehee--you know,clubbing is not always the best hobby to have--Somebody should turn her on to the merits of bowling
jilly
05-28-2007, 11:04 PM
It just occured to me - I guess the cops have to prove she was driving the vehicle. I'm just wondering how this all went down what with the cops saying she was driving yet they arrested her at the hospital. I doubt she would admit that hey? Do you think her 2 passengers said she was driving?
Don't mind me....I guess this is what happens to some of us after belonging to Websleuths for awhile!:D
philamena
05-28-2007, 11:35 PM
Another helpful note: When you wreck and leave the scene, take the cocaine with you and dump it in the trash can outside the hospital. :loser:
Excellent advice Malapoo. :clap::D
philamena
05-28-2007, 11:41 PM
These were taken this morning. Wow...
http://x17online.com/celebrities/lindsay_lohan/x17_xclusive_the_real_lindsay_pi (http://x17online.com/celebrities/lindsay_lohan/x17_xclusive_the_real_lindsay_pix.php#more)
x.php#more (http://x17online.com/celebrities/lindsay_lohan/x17_xclusive_the_real_lindsay_pix.php#more)
Good grief. She's more pathetic than I thought. Isn't Lindsay under 21? Where are her parental units? Do they let Lohan do what she wants because she has money and has been in a few movies? Lohan is the new Anna Nicole Smith.:doh:
Hey Lohan's, get off your butts and get your daughter help before she kills herself.
Taximom
05-29-2007, 10:29 AM
Anyone else think she might be self-injuring (cutting) herself as well? That was a nasty cut on her one hand.
lymom3
05-29-2007, 10:47 AM
Anyone else think she might be self-injuring (cutting) herself as well? That was a nasty cut on her one hand.
My thought was that she was just so stoned she fell or something. I don't know how much cutting she could get away with when you are in the movies like that. I would think that it would show up somewhere. Of course it could be recent behavior because she sure seems to be getting more and more out of control.
Doesn't appear that either parent is the best role model but it looks like her dad has maybe paid for some of his behavior and is trying to save her or help her now.
ljwf22
05-29-2007, 12:19 PM
http://www.abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=3221222&page=1
Malapoo
05-29-2007, 01:55 PM
And after the wreck she went out partying even MORE!!!!!!!!!!!! :doh:
ziggy
05-29-2007, 02:56 PM
Well it makes sense if cocaine is involved. When you go on a binge, you can stay up and drink for days, seriously, days and then...you crash big time. I've had friends who did this and once they are on a bender, forget it. They miss work, have no regard for anything but getting to the next party and they party non-stop. When they crash, you can't wake them up. They are so passed out it's impossible.
Ms. Lohan has some serious problems at such a young age. She is not 21.
I heard a prominent Vodka company was going to host her 21st birthday in Vegas. I certainly hope they and all alcohol companies withdraw that. I would think they would want to distance themselves from THAT kind of image.
Jules
05-29-2007, 03:01 PM
I heard a prominent Vodka company was going to host her 21st birthday in Vegas.
They pulled out....
OneLostGrl
05-29-2007, 03:16 PM
Anyone else think she might be self-injuring (cutting) herself as well? That was a nasty cut on her one hand.
Not impossible, obviously, but on the hand like that would be a strange place for a cutter to cut, IMO.
Paladin
05-30-2007, 08:28 AM
Stick her in jail with Paris.
lymom3
05-30-2007, 08:46 AM
They pulled out....
Jack Daniels is in though. They are stepping up and taking the place of the vodka company...
southcitymom
05-30-2007, 01:31 PM
........alcoholic.......cokehead!
Same thing!
kwatson696
07-24-2007, 08:48 AM
I just heard on Fox news that Linsey Lohan was arrested last night for DUI and other charges....
lymom3
07-24-2007, 08:52 AM
That 45 day rehab really did her some good. She should have just donated the money to charity and actually done something to help someone.
Peter Hamilton
07-24-2007, 08:59 AM
Breaking News: Lindsay Lohan has just been arrested AGAIN for DUI--no details on what the "influence" was
Peter Hamilton
07-24-2007, 09:01 AM
"Other charges also"--yikes
kwatson696
07-24-2007, 09:03 AM
I just heard these are new charges, they arrested her in Santa Monica about 4 hours ago....DUI and OTHER charges.:eek:
Just listening on T.V. now can't find anything on the Web yet.
These are the charges from back in May. I read the link. She hasn't been arrested on anything new.
kwatson696
07-24-2007, 09:05 AM
These are the charges from back in May. I read the link. She hasn't been arrested on anything new.
Nope, this is new about 4 hours ago, I just posted that link. But like I said it is just now Breaking news on Fox.:)
Nope, this is new about 4 hours ago, I just posted that link. But like I said it is just now Breaking news on Fox.:)
The link at the top went to the other charges back in May. Just sayin.'
kwatson696
07-24-2007, 09:10 AM
Sorry about that here ya go......
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=entertainment&id=5505426
According to the Santa Monica Police Department, Lindsay Lohan was arrested early Tuesday morning for DUI, driving on a suspended license and possession of narcotics.
The Santa Monica Police Department tells Eyewitness News, Lohan was taken into custody near the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium along Pico and Main early Tuesday morning.
kwatson696
07-24-2007, 09:17 AM
Breaking News: Lindsay Lohan has just been arrested AGAIN for DUI--no details on what the "influence" was
I will post the link here....
http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=entertainment&id=5505426
SANTA MONICA, July 24, 2007 (KABC-TV) - According to the Santa Monica Police Department, Lindsay Lohan was arrested early Tuesday morning for DUI, driving on a suspended license and possession of narcotics.
kk's mom
07-24-2007, 09:23 AM
Unbelievable.............I hate to say this, but what a piece of trash.......
I thought she had some type of monitoring device on her ankle? It's such a shame. I blame her mother for some of this. She gave her daughter too much freedom as a teen. Now she's out of control. Just my opinion. I used to love watching her movies.......a very talented actress and she has thrown it all away........I don't think I can watch another movie with her in it.....my daughter (who's the spitting image of her with red hair) used to idolize her....not anymore...if she keeps this up, she'll be dead within 5 years.........
I hope she goes to jail and longer than her buddy Paris.....does she not know that she can kill an innocent person (and herself) when she drives under the influence? What is her problem?
Juliana
07-24-2007, 09:37 AM
According to TMZ, LL was chasing someone driving an Escalade and was pulled over by police. She tested above the legal limits for alcohol plus cocaine was found in her pockets.
Unbelievable and sad - she has every advantage in the world but still isn't happy.
http://www.tmz.com/
Peter Hamilton
07-24-2007, 10:16 AM
Just saw her mug shot--She looks wasted
Brefie
07-24-2007, 10:17 AM
Hi all....it's been a while!
I have to say, I feel desperately sorry for Lindsay Lohan. She is likely about to have her THIRD stay in rehab having just turned 21. Where are the people who love her? I think she is a lost little girl. At her age, I would have been terrified of bringing such shame on my family, but clearly that's not the case here.
Having said that, she is old enough to know that driving on a suspended license is illegal and that's ALL her. The drugs and drinking is obviously all her too, but somehow, I see those things differently. Those are DEMONS, illegal driving is just STUPID and DANGEROUS and potentially deadly to innocent victims.
MidnightMyst
07-24-2007, 10:20 AM
Just saw her mug shot--She looks wasted
yeah she sure does!
:crazy:
I hate to sound harsh and unsympathetic but the best thing that could happen at this point is for Lindsey to spend some time in the clink like others with multiple drug/alcohol arrests.. SHe has an uphill battle to fight here.. family history of drug abuse,emotional issues, etc, she is in an industry where its practically handed out at every club as a perk for her star status, and she is pursued by the paparazzi where every misstep is splached on the front pages. But I do think she needs some serious help. She appears to have a very self destructive streak and a serious addiction that hasnt been addressed in her recent stint at rehab.. Regardless she is still breaking the law by obtaining and using illegal drugs and then driving under the influence. She ought to be charged with the most severe penatly since she is now committed multiple offenses.
heres a link to the mug shot...
http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/24/sheriffs-release-lindsays-mug-shot/
indallas2
07-24-2007, 10:42 AM
I hate to sound harsh and unsympathetic but the best thing that could happen at this point is for Lindsey to spend some time in the clink like others with multiple drug/alcohol arrests.. SHe has an uphill battle to fight here.. family history of drug abuse,emotional issues, etc, she is in an industry where its practically handed out at every club as a perk for her star status, and she is pursued by the paparazzi where every misstep is splached on the front pages. But I do think she needs some serious help. She appears to have a very self destructive streak and a serious addiction that hasnt been addressed in her recent stint at rehab.. Regardless she is still breaking the law by obtaining and using illegal drugs and then driving under the influence. She ought to be charged with the most severe penatly since she is now committed multiple offenses.
heres a link to the mug shot...
http://www.tmz.com/2007/07/24/sheriffs-release-lindsays-mug-shot/
I totally agree with you. This girl will be dead within a couple of years UNLESS she spends some time behind bars. :behindbar
We all know that rehab hasn't worked for her.
What a shame!!!
close_enough
07-24-2007, 10:59 AM
i thought she had some kind of monitoring device on??...how do they work??...maybe they don't:confused:
JBean
07-24-2007, 11:03 AM
According to TMZ, LL was chasing someone driving an Escalade and was pulled over by police. She tested above the legal limits for alcohol plus cocaine was found in her pockets.
Unbelievable and sad - she has every advantage in the world but still isn't happy.
http://www.tmz.com/
local news here is reporting .12 or.13 BAC
kk's mom
07-24-2007, 11:04 AM
According to TMZ, LL was chasing someone driving an Escalade and was pulled over by police. She tested above the legal limits for alcohol plus cocaine was found in her pockets.
Unbelievable and sad - she has every advantage in the world but still isn't happy.
http://www.tmz.com/
From what I've heard, the drive of the Escalade LL was chasing was being driven by the mother of LL's personal assistant. What that was all about, one can only imagine......
CuriousAnne
07-24-2007, 11:22 AM
Good grief! I'd say she needs to get help, but she's already gotten help. :waitasec:
Taximom
07-24-2007, 11:25 AM
I think this is just a call for help and hopefully she has reached the lowest point in her life so she can move on. If she doesn't take control now she'll probably be dead soon.
I feel sorry for her in a way because she doesn't have good, strong role models backing her up.
We had the Brat Pack in the 80's and now it's time for the Lost Girls, I guess. :(
Hopeful One
07-24-2007, 11:27 AM
This is really sad. That girl has serious problems. I hope she can get the help she needs. Otherwise, like Taximom said, she'll be dead soon.
Taximom
07-24-2007, 11:28 AM
http://www.tmz.com has the mugshot. I had heard on the radio that it was awful, but it doesn't look as bad as others I've seen. IMO
Taximom
07-24-2007, 11:29 AM
Does anyone know if this will turn into real jail time? I'm not up on all her past charges etc or whether she was on probation? She just turned herself in for another DUI, so maybe those charges haven't even been filed yet?
lynie
07-24-2007, 11:42 AM
:slap:
When I heard this on the news I thought they were talking about the time before...
Problem with her is she has no family that is normal. She has no safe haven as her dad is a crook and her mom a teeny-bopper wannabe herself.
She needs to be the star of a real-life made for tv movie about a starlette that is out of control and gets taken to a ranch in Montana for a year to work out life issues, falls in love with a cowboy and they ride off into the sunset and out of the public eye... :D
Lynie
Paladin
07-24-2007, 11:45 AM
Maybe she's jealous of Paris and wants to do jail time as well and cash in by doing interviews.
lilpony
07-24-2007, 11:48 AM
I just read this. These girls have so much $$$$$ they feel they can do anything they want. Money buys drugs, I guess!:mad: They are ruining there lifes at such a young age. I couldn't believe this when I read it, don't know why I didn't believe it. Nothing will work, if she really doesn't want help. If you keep putting yourself in these situations, it will never end! Its really too bad.:mad:
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 11:51 AM
Nope, this is new about 4 hours ago, I just posted that link. But like I said it is just now Breaking news on Fox.:)
Yes, it is new. This girl...:doh: I wish one of her parents would step in and have her committed or something. I think this is more than just an alcohol issue, I think she has some serious mental problems. She is going to kill herself or someone else if something harsh and fast isn't done.
BrendaStar
07-24-2007, 11:54 AM
Why if she was drinking and doing coke did she have to get behind the wheel of a car?? On second thought, they all seem to drive after wasting themselves. Remember Nichole and the alcohol and the viacone?
Paladin
07-24-2007, 11:55 AM
Yes, it is new. This girl...:doh: I wish one of her parents would step in and have her committed or something. I think this is more than just an alcohol issue, I think she has some serious mental problems. She is going to kill herself or someone else if something harsh and fast isn't done.
Her mom won't be of any help. She's a classic enabler and probably a user herself.
bakerprune64
07-24-2007, 11:55 AM
:slap:
When I heard this on the news I thought they were talking about the time before...
Problem with her is she has no family that is normal. She has no safe haven as her dad is a crook and her mom a teeny-bopper wannabe herself.
She needs to be the star of a real-life made for tv movie about a starlette that is out of control and gets taken to a ranch in Montana for a year to work out life issues, falls in love with a cowboy and they ride off into the sunset and out of the public eye... :D
Lynie
If her mother would grow up and start acting like her MOM and not her gal-pal, maybe Lindsay would have better morals and be able to make better choices.
Lynie...I like your idea about the horse ranch, but think she'd find a way to get high on horse manure:silenced:
CarpeDiem
07-24-2007, 11:56 AM
She reminds me of Robert Downey, Jr.
OneLostGrl
07-24-2007, 11:56 AM
I think this is just a call for help and hopefully she has reached the lowest point in her life so she can move on. If she doesn't take control now she'll probably be dead soon.
I feel sorry for her in a way because she doesn't have good, strong role models backing her up.
We had the Brat Pack in the 80's and now it's time for the Lost Girls, I guess. :(
:waitasec: LOL
lynie
07-24-2007, 12:00 PM
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Lynie...I like your idea about the horse ranch, but think she'd find a way to get high on horse manure:silenced:
Lynie
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 12:00 PM
Her mom won't be of any help. She's a classic enabler and probably a user herself.
True. And who knows how sincere her father is? Aren't there any other relatives of this girl who cold step in? Grandparents? Aunts and uncles?
I think her mom ought to have the other kids taken away from her.
OneLostGrl
07-24-2007, 12:02 PM
She reminds me of Robert Downey, Jr.
I adore him and have been "rooting" for him for as long as I can remember.
He is not only an addict, he has Bipolar disorder and for many years struggled with the fact that he needed medication to be "normal". He has come a long way as of late and I'm so very proud of him!! I worry about a slip up though because I know self destruction has been the only thing he knows since forever. We either get well or we die from it.... if Lindsey continues this way I see her ending up another addiction death statistic.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 12:12 PM
She reminds me of Robert Downey, Jr.
Good call. It takes what it takes with addicts, and I have a lot of compassion for her.
A good friend of mine was in sixteen (yes, 16) treatment centers before she finally began to find some relief from addiction. When she died (too young at the age of 27 in a plane crash), she had 5+ years clean and was doing well.
I hope Lindsay can survive long enough to find a genuine bottom.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 12:13 PM
If her mother would grow up and start acting like her MOM and not her gal-pal, maybe Lindsay would have better morals and be able to make better choices.
Lynie...I like your idea about the horse ranch, but think she'd find a way to get high on horse manure:silenced:
I'd bet my last dollar that Lindsay's Mom is also an addict so she's probably not going to be much real help!
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 12:14 PM
Good call. It takes what it takes with addicts, and I have a lot of compassion for her.
A good friend of mine was in sixteen (yes, 16) treatment centers before she finally began to find some relief from addiction. When she died (too young at the age of 27 in a plane crash), she had 5+ years clean and was doing well.
I hope Lindsay can survive long enough to find a genuine bottom.
SCM, I'm so sorry about your friend. That's just so unfair that she had her life straight finally, and then died in a plane crash. :(
Taximom
07-24-2007, 12:14 PM
:laugh: :waitasec: LOL
((OneLostGrl)) :blowkiss:
CarpeDiem
07-24-2007, 12:14 PM
OneLostGrl, I remember watching his movie "Less than Zero" when I was in college back in the 80's. It scared the chit out of me. Now that's an anti-drug movie. :(
Brefie
07-24-2007, 12:16 PM
True. And who knows how sincere her father is? Aren't there any other relatives of this girl who cold step in? Grandparents? Aunts and uncles?
I think her mom ought to have the other kids taken away from her.
Lindsay is 21 and hasn't lived with her for some time. You can't take her dependants away because her adult child is screwing up. Although, I do think that that she could have played a large part in preventing this.
Brefie
07-24-2007, 12:18 PM
I'd bet my last dollar that Lindsay's Mom is also an addict so she's probably not going to be much real help!
I think she at least 'parties', even if she is not an addict.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 12:19 PM
SCM, I'm so sorry about your friend. That's just so unfair that she had her life straight finally, and then died in a plane crash. :(
Thanks, englishleigh. It really was crazy. Her boyfriend (clean for 12 years at the time) also died in the crash. It was surreal.
I miss her every day, but I also have a lot of peace in my heart that she died clean - and not imprisoned by drugs. She worked really hard to save her life and she helped me to save mine. She was a cool woman and I figure God needed her somewhere else....
SeriouslySearching
07-24-2007, 12:20 PM
I am confused. Now which party girl was wearing the alcohol ankle bracelet again?! There are just so many of them at the moment.
I do not understand for the life of me why these wealthy, young women do NOT have drivers!! They NEED them desperately! Not ONE of these girls has an excuse to EVER drink and drive when they can well afford a limo or just a driver to haul their drunk @zzes around to party. Stupidity must run in their circle because the solution is so very simple. "Don't drive" is not a difficult concept especially when you can always afford not to!
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 12:21 PM
Thanks, englishleigh. It really was crazy. Her boyfriend (clean for 12 years at the time) also died in the crash. It was surreal.
I miss her every day, but I also have a lot of peace in my heart that she died clean - and not imprisoned by drugs. She worked really hard to save her life and she helped me to save mine. She was a cool woman and I figure God needed her somewhere else....
Exactly. :blowkiss: It's hard to let those we love go, no matter what.
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 12:24 PM
Lindsay is 21 and hasn't lived with her for some time. You can't take her dependants away because her adult child is screwing up. Although, I do think that that she could have played a large part in preventing this.
Right, but if she's not being a mom to those other kids and partying all the time, setting bad examples and pushing the younger kids to be movie stars, too, those kids could be headed down the same destructive path as Lindsay.
I say that, but it's so hard to get kids away from their mom legally. My ex-SIL was a total fruitcake and was practically prostituting herself and was on drugs and my BIL tried twice to get custody of his kids and could not get them away from her in court. She would clean up and lie on the stand and the stupid judges would believe her.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 12:27 PM
I am confused. Now which party girl was wearing the alcohol ankle bracelet again?! There are just so many of them at the moment.
I do not understand for the life of me why these wealthy, young women do NOT have drivers!! They NEED them desperately! Not ONE of these girls has an excuse to EVER drink and drive when they can well afford a limo or just a driver to haul their drunk @zzes around to party. Stupidity must run in their circle because the solution is so very simple. "Don't drive" is not a difficult concept especially when you can always afford not to!
Lindsey was wearing the ankle bracelet, SS. I am with you about the driving thing. If I had that kind of money, I would never drive again - especially if it was going to interfere with my buzz!!
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 12:28 PM
Exactly. :blowkiss: It's hard to let those we love go, no matter what.
Yes - it is. :blowkiss: Thank you for your kind words.
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 12:32 PM
Yes - it is. :blowkiss: Thank you for your kind words.
You're so welcome.
Fox is reporting that Lindsay was CHASING the mom of her former personal assistant (no idea why, except that the daughter had just quit) and was arrested for DUI and cocaine possession. The lady being chased called police and reported it.
Taximom
07-24-2007, 12:35 PM
She was chasing the mom of a "former" personal assistant. I wonder if it was a set up? NOT that that is any excuse, but that sounds fishy to me!
Peter Hamilton
07-24-2007, 12:36 PM
CNN Headline news just reported that Lindsey most likely WILL go to jail for this second charge--probably best for her to do some time,as other posters have suggested
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 12:37 PM
She was chasing the mom of a "former" personal assistant. I wonder if it was a set up? NOT that that is any excuse, but that sounds fishy to me!
The daughter, Lindsay's PA, had just resigned. I wonder if it was an anger thing, she saw the woman driving down the street and started the chase, to catch her and start an argument about the daughter quitting? :boohoo:
I wouldn't want to work for the train wreck, either!!!
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 12:38 PM
CNN Headline news just reported that Lindsey most likely WILL go to jail for this second charge--probably best for her to do some time,as other posters have suggested
GOOD!! The Twin Towers is where she belongs, IMO.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 12:41 PM
The daughter, Lindsay's PA, had just resigned. I wonder if it was an anger thing, she saw the woman driving down the street and started the chase, to catch her and start an argument about the daughter quitting? :boohoo:
I wouldn't want to work for the train wreck, either!!!
I think you are right about the motive behind the chase. Have you seen her mug shot? - the look on her face seems to be "Omigod - I am such an idiot."
CarpeDiem
07-24-2007, 12:45 PM
She was chasing the mom of a "former" personal assistant. I wonder if it was a set up? NOT that that is any excuse, but that sounds fishy to me!
Apparently, those in the vehicle being chased didn't know it was Lohan until the police arrived. They ought to charge her with harassment and stalking while they're at it.:mad:
Taximom
07-24-2007, 12:48 PM
Apparently, those in the vehicle being chased didn't know it was Lohan until the police arrived. They ought to charge her with harrasment and stalking while they're at it.:mad:
Oh, wow. What a loser!
My daughter loved her in all those Disney movies. Now she can see for real what happens when you make bad decisions like drinking in excess, using illegal drugs and driving on top of it all.
CarpeDiem
07-24-2007, 12:49 PM
Oh, wow. What a loser!
My daughter loved her in all those Disney movies. Now she can see for real what happens when you make bad decisions like drinking in excess, using illegal drugs and driving on top of it all.
Mine too. :(
Brefie
07-24-2007, 12:49 PM
I am confused. Now which party girl was wearing the alcohol ankle bracelet again?! There are just so many of them at the moment.
I do not understand for the life of me why these wealthy, young women do NOT have drivers!! They NEED them desperately! Not ONE of these girls has an excuse to EVER drink and drive when they can well afford a limo or just a driver to haul their drunk @zzes around to party. Stupidity must run in their circle because the solution is so very simple. "Don't drive" is not a difficult concept especially when you can always afford not to!
EXACTLY! I am glad that they have to face up to their demons because they DID drive (and even more grateful they didn't hurt an innocent party), but geez, really?? Even I can afford to take a cab when I hit the town! If I ever get her kind of money, here are some of the other things I will never be charged with....CUI - Cleaning under the influence and IWI - Ironing while intoxicated.
SeriouslySearching
07-24-2007, 12:50 PM
Throw the book at her and toss away the darn key this time!! There is no excuse. She needs to be in jail for a stint. I hope it is much longer than Paris spent in the slammer, too...so they will shut up about that!
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 12:58 PM
i thought she had some kind of monitoring device on??...how do they work??...maybe they don't:confused:
She did have some sort of monitoring advice on, but I'll bet they're not too tough to fool. They are supposed to scan your body sweat and detect alcohol if it's there and then send a report to the porbation officer.
I would suspect that the bracelt was only looking for alcohol..if she was doing any other types of drugs then it was likely not detected.
PrayersForMaura
07-24-2007, 01:40 PM
I hate that TMZ site. People post such hateful comments making fun of her face and the marks on it. Maybe she drinks because she is lonely, depressed and possibly insecure about herself.
She is definitely flirting with danger and death.
I hope she gets on the straight and narrow.
She can become a better person.
Ya know, you never hear anything bad about some stars. Like Christina Aguilera.
But some of these other stars just keep making the same mistakes :(
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 01:48 PM
I think that from a young age, Lindsay's only sense of self-worth has come from the only love for her being communicated from her parents as being what she could *do* financially for them. I don't think she's ever been told she is loved for who she is, for being Lindsay, and for having worth as a human being, for simply being their daughter and not a meal ticket. Now she's on a continuous downward spiral b/c her failures are making her drink more, which are causing more failures, and her dad's words of love for her may be too late, although I hope not, and I pray he is sincere and that Lindsay would listen to him if he is. The mother is worthless and I think the further Lindsay is kept from her, the better. Dina Lohan may be even berating Lindsay behind the scenes for what she's done to her career, endangering Dina's meals and party tickets. When the PA quit, which I can't blame her for, it probably felt like just more abandonment to Lindsay.
I think if you pray, you should include this girl in your prayers. She needs them desperately.
kwatson696
07-24-2007, 01:52 PM
The girl in my signature is my neice, she was killed by a drunk driver in May. The driver of the other car was killed also...:mad: It was not the first time he was drinking and driving. He had a record 4 DUI's, 2 driving under suspended licence, Any way I have absolutely NO sympathy for any one that takes the chance to drink and drive.
Jules
07-24-2007, 01:53 PM
From what I've heard, the drive of the Escalade LL was chasing was being driven by the mother of LL's personal assistant. What that was all about, one can only imagine......
They just said on the radio that LL's assistant quit last night and had her mom come pick her up at LL's (I'm assuming - house).
What a freakin' mess. Sounds like she will definitely do some time with these new charges.
Smurf
07-24-2007, 03:07 PM
If her mother would grow up and start acting like her MOM and not her gal-pal, maybe Lindsay would have better morals and be able to make better choices.
Lynie...I like your idea about the horse ranch, but think she'd find a way to get high on horse manure:silenced:
This is the whole bottom line-Mom's can't be buddies to their kids when there are illegal things happening. A mom is not supposed to stand for any of that crap. Lindsey & her mom probably have the same drug supplier on speed dial and they like to PARTY together-Well that lifestyle is headed for the toilet real fast- or should I say jail cell or funeral home.
Marthatex
07-24-2007, 03:28 PM
The girl in my signature is my neice, she was killed by a drunk driver in May. The driver of the other car was killed also...:mad: It was not the first time he was drinking and driving. He had a record 4 DUI's, 2 driving under suspended licence, Any way I have absolutely NO sympathy for any one that takes the chance to drink and drive.
That's is so sad. I can't imagine why we are not stricter on drunk drivers. I have always contributed to MADD.
sandraladeda
07-24-2007, 03:45 PM
I wonder why she isn't still in rehab - I don't know much about rehab, and I don't mean to blame or be disrepectful of the professionals who work there to treat addicts. But can't they see that she is not yet well enough to get out of rehab, can't they tell she is likely to use again right away?
I have a SIL who went into treatment, and at first, it was expected to be a short term thing. Later, they advised her to stay another month or 2, that she was not ready to leave. They didn't say "okay, your 30 days are up. See you!" They recognized she needed further treatment, and that is what they recommended.This treatment saved her life.
Why the rush to get out of rehab? Why not stick with it until you are truly well?
imho
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 03:47 PM
The girl in my signature is my neice, she was killed by a drunk driver in May. The driver of the other car was killed also...:mad: It was not the first time he was drinking and driving. He had a record 4 DUI's, 2 driving under suspended licence, Any way I have absolutely NO sympathy for any one that takes the chance to drink and drive.
So sad. I'm so sorry. :(
MagicRose99
07-24-2007, 03:51 PM
I wonder why she isn't still in rehab - I don't know much about rehab, and I don't mean to blame or be disrepectful of the professionals who work there to treat addicts. But can't they see that she is not yet well enough to get out of rehab, can't they tell she is likely to use again right away?
I have a SIL who went into treatment, and at first, it was expected to be a short term thing. Later, they advised her to stay another month or 2, that she was not ready to leave. They didn't say "okay, your 30 days are up. See you!" They recognized she needed further treatment, and that is what they recommended.This treatment saved her life.
Why the rush to get out of rehab? Why not stick with it until you are truly well?
imho
Places like "Promises" isn't a real rehab center... it's a spa for the wealthy who want to pretend to by "drying out" and "getting clean". If these people really wanted to get help for their addictions they'd go to a reputable rehab facility and not some spa that caters to their every whim.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 03:55 PM
Places like "Promises" isn't a real rehab center... it's a spa for the wealthy who want to pretend to by "drying out" and "getting clean". If these people really wanted to get help for their addictions they'd go to a reputable rehab facility and not some spa that caters to their every whim.
Promises is actually considered pretty heavy duty by rehab standards.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 03:59 PM
I wonder why she isn't still in rehab - I don't know much about rehab, and I don't mean to blame or be disrepectful of the professionals who work there to treat addicts. But can't they see that she is not yet well enough to get out of rehab, can't they tell she is likely to use again right away?
I have a SIL who went into treatment, and at first, it was expected to be a short term thing. Later, they advised her to stay another month or 2, that she was not ready to leave. They didn't say "okay, your 30 days are up. See you!" They recognized she needed further treatment, and that is what they recommended.This treatment saved her life.
Why the rush to get out of rehab? Why not stick with it until you are truly well?
imho
Most people don't have the time, money or inclination to hang out in a treatment center for the years it can take to get a handle on addiction. All treatment tells people is - if you want to get better, here's what you have to do. Whether or not people choose to do it when they leave is another thing all together.
I am certain Lindsey, like every other graduating addict of rehab, was told what she needed to do once she was "out." Chances are, hanging out at parties and clubs (with or without the booze anklet) was NOT one of the suggestions made to her.
I'm of the opinion (and have been since she oput herself in treatment a second time) that Lindsey's not ready yet. And there's not a treatment counselour in the world who can make her ready.
sandraladeda
07-24-2007, 03:59 PM
Does anyone recall what finally worked for Robert Downey Jr.? He had a number of rehab failures before he seemingly got it right, and seems to be getting his career back on track. It would be nice if he reached out to LL and shared his own experiences, advised her on getting her addictions under control.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 04:02 PM
Does anyone recall what finally worked for Robert Downey Jr.? He had a number of rehab failures before he seemingly got it right, and seems to be getting his career back on track. It would be nice if he reached out to LL and shared his own experiences, advised her on getting her addictions under control.
The only thing that ever works for any addict - he got sick and tired of being sick and tired - he hit a bottom and got into enough pain to want to do something differently. Every person's path with "too much" is unique.
SeriouslySearching
07-24-2007, 04:03 PM
Yes...severe jail time and actual punishment worked on Robert Downy JR!
MagicRose99
07-24-2007, 04:08 PM
Promises is actually considered pretty heavy duty by rehab standards.
<SNORT>
A superior blend of luxury, holistic treatment options and challenging treatment for addiction. We use time-tested methods of support and innovative scientific techniques to offer immediate relief and lasting sobriety, augmented with uncommon luxuries such as individual massages and private or semi-private rooms.
http://www.promises.com/
Pepper
07-24-2007, 04:09 PM
Do you suppose LL was jealous of all the publicity Paris Hilton was getting? Sounds like one-upsmanship! Where are the vehicular charges? She was reported chasing another car and she didn't even get a speeding ticket? What's up with that?
SeriouslySearching
07-24-2007, 04:10 PM
Apparently, those in the vehicle being chased didn't know it was Lohan until the police arrived. They ought to charge her with harassment and stalking while they're at it.:mad:
I don't believe that one for a second! They knew EXACTLY who was in that fancy Denali chasing them! They drove within one block of the PD before pulling over to call the police instead of driving right to the station. I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't called the media before they called LE! This was Lohan's fault for being in the car...drinking and driving, but was she set up for it? Absolutely! Her Personal Assistant stands to make some money and a name for herself over this deal! It IS the way it works.
CarpeDiem
07-24-2007, 04:25 PM
I don't believe that one for a second! They knew EXACTLY who was in that fancy Denali chasing them! They drove within one block of the PD before pulling over to call the police instead of driving right to the station. I wouldn't be surprised if they hadn't called the media before they called LE! This was Lohan's fault for being in the car...drinking and driving, but was she set up for it? Absolutely! Her Personal Assistant stands to make some money and a name for herself over this deal! It IS the way it works.
She wasn't even driving HER car. If they had called the media, or the pap's, we would have video and pics of the whole scene. I believe them.
southcitymom
07-24-2007, 04:25 PM
<SNORT>
A superior blend of luxury, holistic treatment options and challenging treatment for addiction. We use time-tested methods of support and innovative scientific techniques to offer immediate relief and lasting sobriety, augmented with uncommon luxuries such as individual massages and private or semi-private rooms.
http://www.promises.com/
I'm not saying it doesn't have a "snootiness" associated with it. I'm just saying - according to friends of mine "in the biz" - it's not just a spa hideout that celebs go to until the press dies down - it's got an excellent rehabilitation program and is respected in the industry.
Peter Hamilton
07-24-2007, 04:30 PM
Does anyone recall what finally worked for Robert Downey Jr.? He had a number of rehab failures before he seemingly got it right, and seems to be getting his career back on track. It would be nice if he reached out to LL and shared his own experiences, advised her on getting her addictions under control.--Downey entering a strange house and then going to sleep,cops find a loaded gun in his car,he's sent to jail--While in jail, he is attacked by another inmate and requires some minor plastic surgery to his forehead--Then he finally straightened up
englishleigh
07-24-2007, 04:36 PM
Do you suppose LL was jealous of all the publicity Paris Hilton was getting? Sounds like one-upsmanship! Where are the vehicular charges? She was reported chasing another car and she didn't even get a speeding ticket? What's up with that?
My husband said the same thing. If Lindsay did this b/c she was jealous of Paris then she is more screwed-up than I first thought, and I think she is centimeters from rock bottom.
arielilane
07-24-2007, 05:41 PM
The only thing that ever works for any addict - he got sick and tired of being sick and tired - he hit a bottom and got into enough pain to want to do something differently. Every person's path with "too much" is unique.
I agree you just get sick and tired of the whole thing and ready to make that change. I hope LL can get the help she needs. I'd like to see her do well and I think she is capable of it. She could be a really big star and one that stays around for awhile...
CaliKid
07-24-2007, 05:58 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19930743/
I heard that she failed yesterday's drug test, but I can't find where I saw it. I agree that a lot of this is her parents' fault. Dad has the same problems as LL, and her mother just wants to blame everyone else. It's sad- this girl had everything and is throwing it away with both hands. But until she admits she has a problem and wants to get better, she won't.
DEPUTYDAWG
07-24-2007, 07:35 PM
The girl in my signature is my neice, she was killed by a drunk driver in May. The driver of the other car was killed also...:mad: It was not the first time he was drinking and driving. He had a record 4 DUI's, 2 driving under suspended licence, Any way I have absolutely NO sympathy for any one that takes the chance to drink and drive.
I had wondered who the girl was, but didn't want to ask. That is so sad. Soooo so sad.
Only4Justice
07-24-2007, 08:40 PM
I think you are right about the motive behind the chase. Have you seen her mug shot? - the look on her face seems to be "Omigod - I am such an idiot."
I think the look on her face says....I'm purely stoned on coke.....:confused:
I wonder why she isn't still in rehab - I don't know much about rehab, and I don't mean to blame or be disrepectful of the professionals who work there to treat addicts. But can't they see that she is not yet well enough to get out of rehab, can't they tell she is likely to use again right away?
I have a SIL who went into treatment, and at first, it was expected to be a short term thing. Later, they advised her to stay another month or 2, that she was not ready to leave. They didn't say "okay, your 30 days are up. See you!" They recognized she needed further treatment, and that is what they recommended.This treatment saved her life.
Why the rush to get out of rehab? Why not stick with it until you are truly well?
imho
I am the sister of an alcoholic who will probably kill herself someday for all of us who love her dearly to watch.
Let me tell you, until an 'addict' (alcohol included :furious: ) wants help, there is not alot anyone can do, not even the counselors at the centers.
All IMO really.
Malapoo
07-24-2007, 09:01 PM
Honestly I don't particularly believe the "set up" story, but if it WERE true, I wouldn't blame them at all. If they knew she was drinking and doing drugs, then she DESERVED and NEEDED to get caught PERIOD.
This girl has some SERIOUS addiction issues and needs long term serious rehab. A few days or weeks isn't going to do it. Of course first and foremost SHE needs to realize she has a problem that will take a LIFETIME of daily HARD WORK and dedication to fight.
jilly
07-24-2007, 11:33 PM
Honestly I don't particularly believe the "set up" story, but if it WERE true, I wouldn't blame them at all. If they knew she was drinking and doing drugs, then she DERSERVED and NEEDED to get caught PERIOD.
This girl has some SERIOUS addiction issues and needs long term serious rehab. A few days or weeks isn't going to do it. Of course first and foremost SHE needs to realize she has a problem that will take a LIFETIME of daily HARD WORK and dedication to fight.
I agree - I don't care if she was set up. I'm glad the police were called. It was just a matter of time before she killed herself or someone else.
I'm watching the rerun of LKL and Geragos is commenting on Lohan. He looks like he has had some work done, perhaps and eye lift or something. A little botox. Did anyone else notice?
KansasCutie
07-25-2007, 12:38 AM
I feel so bad for Lindsey :( She needs help!
SadieMae
07-25-2007, 12:52 AM
The girl in my signature is my neice, she was killed by a drunk driver in May. The driver of the other car was killed also...:mad: It was not the first time he was drinking and driving. He had a record 4 DUI's, 2 driving under suspended licence, Any way I have absolutely NO sympathy for any one that takes the chance to drink and drive.
I'm so sorry about your niece. So young, so pretty. :(
I just can't imagine the pain your family went through. Especially finding out the other driver should have NEVER been back on the road.
rayray
07-25-2007, 12:55 AM
While I do feel bad for Lindsay, I can't help but be constantly irritated by all these people (Britney, Lindsay, etc) with nothing but opportunities in front of them just throwing life away. Remember River Phoenix. Perhaps the most brilliant young actor of his time, except he died of a drug overdose. Anissa Jones, died at 18 from a drug overdose, and plenty others who have thrown their lives away. I am sick and tired of hearing about the poor kids who have bright futures, but refuse to see the light because of drinking and drugs. "They can't handle fame", some people say.. Well, what did they think came along with being a movie star, singer, etc.. anonymity?
Anyways.. I guess she'll prance back to rehab, spend a few days there.. sport another fashion statement, I mean SCRAM Bracelet, then take another chance, perhaps ending her own life,or some innocent bystanders by making yet another disastrous decision.
I do think alot has to do with crappy parenting. But, shes 21 now.
OneLostGrl
07-25-2007, 02:22 AM
--Downey entering a strange house and then going to sleep,cops find a loaded gun in his car,he's sent to jail--While in jail, he is attacked by another inmate and requires some minor plastic surgery to his forehead--Then he finally straightened up
Yep! Sometimes the worst thing that has ever happened to us turns out to be the best thing that could have happened to us!
susiebond
07-25-2007, 08:07 AM
I'm watching the rerun of LKL and Geragos is commenting on Lohan. He looks like he has had some work done, perhaps and eye lift or something. A little botox. Did anyone else notice?
He looks ..."rested" ?.....no wrinkles...hair looks trimmed, maybe added some on top ?....I find him irritating but I have to admit, the "work" does improve his appearance !!
Poor Linsey....she needs help....
susiebond
My opinion only
MrsG728
07-25-2007, 08:36 AM
I feel sorry for Lindsay Lohan. I think she has a mother who has exploited and misguided her, her whole life. Her father just got out of jail and has a history of erratic behavior. I hope this is the event that puts Lindsay on the road to finding her own health and happiness. In many ways I believe she is a victim.
mjak
:clap: I agree with you. I believe that her mother is also caught up in the entire LALA land of L.A. Do you feel that Britney's mom is too? Why do they have such problems with (lack of) control over their children's actions/morals/values? Are these starlets allowed to make their own decisions and do whatever they want at such a young age?
I feel that the only solution for her to remain sober in such a stressful atmosphere is to remove herself from there. Obviously, you don't jet off to Vegas days after leaving rehab and expect to drink water and suck down pixie sticks. I guess Malibu/BH/L.A. isn't the place to be sober, either.
MG
kk's mom
07-25-2007, 08:51 AM
Of course now she's blaming everyone else for what happend. Drugs aren't hers, assistant's mom "almost" hit her........yeah right. Does she really believe people (us real folks that is) are going to believe her? Although I do hope she gets the help she needs, I do not feel sorry for her one bit. I think the movie production companies that are waiting with baited breath and are standing by her, need to drop her like a hot potato and give her a quick taste of reality.
http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2007/07/25/723059.html
sandraladeda
07-25-2007, 10:45 AM
Wouldn't it be nice if, once a celebrity is close to rock bottom, there was a code of honor among the press to simply stop covering these train wrecks?
Think Anna Nicole Smith, Brittney Spears, Paris Hilton, and now Lindsay Lohan. There comes a time when it would just make sense to look away, avert eyes from the disaster.
Oh, and wouldn't it be nice if clubs and bartenders (and in ANS's case, doctors) simply stopped enabling the addictive destructive behavior?
"Gee, Miss Lohan, do you really think you should be here in this club, what with your rehab and all?" How hard would that be?
If I was in their shoes, and I really wanted to kick my addiction, and with all the money these people have, I would give firm instructions to my staff to drop me in a secluded place (say an island or on top of a mountain) with a huge supply and regular deliveries of groceries and books and movies, and I would seclude myself for 6 months or a year or more and get clean. Stay out of the limelight. Change all my habits. Forget what the inside of a club looks like. Deal with a bad feeling by feeling it, not medicating it.
I actually might enjoy the seclusion so much, I'd never return to civilization!
imho
Squishified
07-25-2007, 12:00 PM
The girl in my signature is my neice, she was killed by a drunk driver in May. The driver of the other car was killed also...:mad: It was not the first time he was drinking and driving. He had a record 4 DUI's, 2 driving under suspended licence, Any way I have absolutely NO sympathy for any one that takes the chance to drink and drive.
I am so sorry about your neice. :blowkiss:
I also have NO sympathy for drunk drivers. A friend of mine recently got her 4th DUI and totaled her 4th car (yes, she totaled every time). She has yet to serve any time. She went to court recently and it was rescheduled till October. I say there should be ZERO tolerance for drunk driving. Jail time for your first DUI - maybe it'll straighten some people out. If you get caught again, MAJOR jail time (I'm talking at least 5 years).
Sorry for the rant, y'all.
southcitymom
07-25-2007, 12:07 PM
:clap: I agree with you. I believe that her mother is also caught up in the entire LALA land of L.A. Do you feel that Britney's mom is too? Why do they have such problems with (lack of) control over their children's actions/morals/values? Are these starlets allowed to make their own decisions and do whatever they want at such a young age?
I feel that the only solution for her to remain sober in such a stressful atmosphere is to remove herself from there. Obviously, you don't jet off to Vegas days after leaving rehab and expect to drink water and suck down pixie sticks. I guess Malibu/BH/L.A. isn't the place to be sober, either.
MG
That really would be one of the best things she could do for herself. It is extremely hard (though not impossible) to get clean in your old environment. I just don't think she has the desire yet to change everything. I know I wouldn't have had it at her age.
kwatson696
07-25-2007, 12:21 PM
:clap: :clap: :clap: Me too, If the guy in my neice's case had to serve any time, she might still be with us....."ZERO TOLERANCE" M.A.D.D. maybe her mother and her should read some articles here.
http://www.madd.org/I am so sorry about your neice. :blowkiss:
I also have NO sympathy for drunk drivers. A friend of mine recently got her 4th DUI and totaled her 4th car (yes, she totaled every time). She has yet to serve any time. She went to court recently and it was rescheduled till October. I say there should be ZERO tolerance for drunk driving. Jail time for your first DUI - maybe it'll straighten some people out. If you get caught again, MAJOR jail time (I'm talking at least 5 years).
Sorry for the rant, y'all.
That really would be one of the best things she could do for herself. It is extremely hard (though not impossible) to get clean in your old environment. I just don't think she has the desire yet to change everything. I know I wouldn't have had it at her age.
Hi South!:blowkiss:
You're so right, and any environment can be the wrong one if she wants to use - even jail or rehab, especially when she can leave to go shopping! My brother finally quit drinking after years of problems, at 44. You've never met such a charming charismatic guy, so talented and full of life. 3 DUI's, many career spirals, many girlfriends (no wives) later, he finally checked himself into detox with no pressure from anyone. He is living one day at a time a month later. I pray for him often. When he drank he was a terror. Once he picked up my 4 year old and dunked his head into a giant bowl of pasta salad. At my parent's 50th anniversary he threw a butter knife at our nephew. These are things he would NEVER do sober. I've bailed him out and talked til I was blue. Until he really felt the pain of his life and truly wanted to do it, he wasn't about to give up his booze.
Eve
southcitymom
07-25-2007, 02:19 PM
Hi South!:blowkiss:
You're so right, and any environment can be the wrong one if she wants to use - even jail or rehab, especially when she can leave to go shopping! My brother finally quit drinking after years of problems, at 44. You've never met such a charming charismatic guy, so talented and full of life. 3 DUI's, many career spirals, many girlfriends (no wives) later, he finally checked himself into detox with no pressure from anyone. He is living one day at a time a month later. I pray for him often. When he drank he was a terror. Once he picked up my 4 year old and dunked his head into a giant bowl of pasta salad. At my parent's 50th anniversary he threw a butter knife at our nephew. These are things he would NEVER do sober. I've bailed him out and talked til I was blue. Until he really felt the pain of his life and truly wanted to do it, he wasn't about to give up his booze.
Eve
Hi Eve :blowkiss:
I will keep your brother in my prayers. It sounds very encouraging that he checked himself in somewhere of his own accord. That's extremely promising. I hope he's going to a lot of meetings!
I know what it's like to be a different person (and not the one I want to be, by any stretch of the imagination) under the influence of substances. If you have a problem, the path can be slow or the path can be fast, but it is always DOWNHILL.
I'm going to send you some pics from my beach trip when I get them downloaded! I hope you and your sweet family are well!
Taximom
07-25-2007, 03:28 PM
LL's Inner Circle fear for her life:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,290653,00.html
reportertype
07-25-2007, 04:01 PM
I feel sorry for her. She's got an addiction, which is not a pleasant place to be. Her parents are horrible.
She gets arrested and mom is nowhere around; dad spends the day on TV talking about her and probably getting paid for it....yuck.
Who in the world does she go to if she needs help? No wonder she's a mess.
Of course now she's blaming everyone else for what happend. Drugs aren't hers, assistant's mom "almost" hit her........yeah right. Does she really believe people (us real folks that is) are going to believe her? Although I do hope she gets the help she needs, I do not feel sorry for her one bit. I think the movie production companies that are waiting with baited breath and are standing by her, need to drop her like a hot potato and give her a quick taste of reality.
http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2007/07/25/723059.html
Sounds like typical addict speak .. they dont take accountability etc.. I would agree that she hasnt really hit bottom yet and isnt ready to get clean and stay clean. SHe hasnt yet realized that she is going to seriously change her life and her habits as well as commit to some serious hard work if she wants to stick with it. I dont envy anyone going thru this. I have seen addiction and its impact in my own family. It can be devastaing but you cant help someone who isnt ready..s he is just not there yet..sad as that may be. I would suspect its harder in LALA land when surrounded by yes men, by those who live off you, who dont want you to succeed since it will servely curtail their own lives, its easy to find sources .. likely its given to you many times, and you can afford the habit unlike most of us normal folks who would start feeling the financial pinch much sooner.
KR2tonenow
07-25-2007, 05:43 PM
She has all the opportunity and support to "turn her behavior around", but the key is staying away from the bad influences around her.
She is not the victim here! She is an adult making very poor decisions. Substance abuse and alcoholism isnt selective, and it doesnt matter how much you have, you need to get help.
Anyone who brings a substance into PD, is a "cry of help!.
Quote "She states, I am innocent, I do not do drugs, that wasn't mine...", is so far into denial. That clearly she is so far gone down the road of addiction.
Britney is right behind her, and these girls would be better off moving to a quiet lifestyle and focusing on their health and getting the therapy they need to rebuild themselves, their careers are low priority now!
KR2tonenow
07-25-2007, 05:46 PM
Of course now she's blaming everyone else for what happend. Drugs aren't hers, assistant's mom "almost" hit her........yeah right. Does she really believe people (us real folks that is) are going to believe her? Although I do hope she gets the help she needs, I do not feel sorry for her one bit. I think the movie production companies that are waiting with baited breath and are standing by her, need to drop her like a hot potato and give her a quick taste of reality.
http://www.comcast.net/entertainment/index.jsp?cat=ENTERTAINMENT&fn=/2007/07/25/723059.html
That would be a great wake up call!:cool:
bakerprune64
07-25-2007, 06:06 PM
That would be a great wake up call!:cool:
She has a movie coming out or just came out. Bet their boxoffice numbers will be low now.
KR2tonenow
07-25-2007, 06:32 PM
She has a movie coming out or just came out. Bet their boxoffice numbers will be low now.
I think most of the public may see the movies just because publicity is publicity. However, anything else going forward, would be better for LL to take a long, long vacation.;)
Hi Eve :blowkiss:
I will keep your brother in my prayers. It sounds very encouraging that he checked himself in somewhere of his own accord. That's extremely promising. I hope he's going to a lot of meetings!
I know what it's like to be a different person (and not the one I want to be, by any stretch of the imagination) under the influence of substances. If you have a problem, the path can be slow or the path can be fast, but it is always DOWNHILL.
I'm going to send you some pics from my beach trip when I get them downloaded! I hope you and your sweet family are well!
Thanks South! :blowkiss: I will look forward to your pics and have some of our Colorado trip for you, too. We had a blast and my son was "the man" on the soccer field! They played at the Air Force Academy, it was neat!
Thanks for the prayers. I was quite stunned when he finally hit bottom and checked himself in, I know none of us thought it would ever happen. He had a pretty high bottom, too, able to function quite well, but I saw the deterioration, as did everyone who loves him.
So many people afflicted with addictions are talented and wonderful - we see this with the famous, just like in real life. Britney, Lindsay, and countless, countless others now, and in the past - think Judy Garland, Jason Robards, F. Scott Fitzgerald...the list is endless. It didn't used to be so painfully public, however. They have the additional pressure of publicity but we can hope the additional resources help to make up for it a little.
But for the grace of God go many of us...
xoxoxo
Eve
Show Me
07-25-2007, 08:20 PM
She has all the opportunity and support to "turn her behavior around", but the key is staying away from the bad influences around her.
She is not the victim here! She is an adult making very poor decisions. Substance abuse and alcoholism isnt selective, and it doesnt matter how much you have, you need to get help.
Anyone who brings a substance into PD, is a "cry of help!.
Quote "She states, I am innocent, I do not do drugs, that wasn't mine...", is so far into denial. That clearly she is so far gone down the road of addiction.
Britney is right behind her, and these girls would be better off moving to a quiet lifestyle and focusing on their health and getting the therapy they need to rebuild themselves, their careers are low priority now!
If the drugs in Lindsay's own pocket weren't hers...then who's were they? And why was Lindsay, fresh out of rehab, volunteering to 'hold' someone's drugs for her?
I fear that spin won't go far.
DEPUTYDAWG
07-25-2007, 08:32 PM
If the drugs in Lindsay's own pocket weren't hers...then who's were they? And why was Lindsay, fresh out of rehab, volunteering to 'hold' someone's drugs for her?
I fear that spin won't go far.
:banghead: :banghead:
Ahhhh, but there's the issue! They weren't in Lindsay's "own pocket!" per Lindsay. Oh my. Now she's claiming those weren't her jeans. They had a jean swap! Okay, so I'm embarassed to admit the "sources" for this were: 1) ET and 2) Nancy Grace :eek:
But as someone else mentioned, for not being her jeans (yeah right), they sure fit like a glove, LOL.
southcitymom
07-25-2007, 08:41 PM
If the drugs in Lindsay's own pocket weren't hers...then who's were they? And why was Lindsay, fresh out of rehab, volunteering to 'hold' someone's drugs for her?
I fear that spin won't go far.
Exactly. Let's say we are all totally stupid and believe that, in fact, these weren't her jeans or she was holding the coke for someone else....what in the world is a recovering addict fresh out of rehab even doing in a place that would have coke?
It's all a bunch of malarky but I guess it's the best story they could come up with. Wonder if they tested her for coke and how long coke stays in your system?....
Texana
07-25-2007, 08:41 PM
DUI consequences are controlled by the individual states--some are tougher than others. I've heard that Florida has really cracked down on them recently with automatic jail time for first time DUIs convictions.
If every state went to that--or even automatic jail time for second DUIs...then I think we would all be a lot safer.
Show Me
07-25-2007, 10:08 PM
:banghead: :banghead:
Ahhhh, but there's the issue! They weren't in Lindsay's "own pocket!" per Lindsay. Oh my. Now she's claiming those weren't her jeans. They had a jean swap! Okay, so I'm embarassed to admit the "sources" for this were: 1) ET and 2) Nancy Grace :eek:
But as someone else mentioned, for not being her jeans (yeah right), they sure fit like a glove, LOL.
Hi DeputyD!
Yeah someone must have switched pockets with Lindsay!
Probably a velcro pocket craze amongst the young adults. You know rip one pocket off your jeans and replace them with another....anyone can switch pockets on you while you are going about your business.
KR2tonenow
07-26-2007, 12:24 AM
Actually its spoken like a true addict as she is!
CaliKid
07-26-2007, 12:57 AM
Lindsay, Paris, Britney! They all have enabling mothers who make excuses for them and their behavior until the brats start acting up against them. By then it's too late, the wild child girls are adults and uncontrollable.
And the owners of the bars are equally to blame. They don't care if a celebrity is underage, they just want the allure that the celebrity brings to their establishment. I agree with sandraladeda, they should start acting like adults and turn these girls away.
Speaking of Britney:
http://entertainment.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=270081&affid=100055
kk's mom
07-26-2007, 07:41 AM
Lindsay, Paris, Britney! They all have enabling mothers who make excuses for them and their behavior until the brats start acting up against them. By then it's too late, the wild child girls are adults and uncontrollable.
And the owners of the bars are equally to blame. They don't care if a celebrity is underage, they just want the allure that the celebrity brings to their establishment. I agree with sandraladeda, they should start acting like adults and turn these girls away.
Speaking of Britney:
http://entertainment.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=270081&affid=100055
Absolutely. These girls have been getting into clubs since they were what, 16, 17? That's ridiculous! They should be held responsible in some way.
I have no sympathy for these 3 bimbos. They've done it to themselves with the help of their controlling parents, and their enabling pals they hang around with.
The minute someone places themselves behind the steering wheel while intoxicated or on drugs, they lose any ounce of respect from me and any sympathy......
Squishified
07-26-2007, 12:27 PM
Absolutely. These girls have been getting into clubs since they were what, 16, 17? That's ridiculous! They should be held responsible in some way.
I have no sympathy for these 3 bimbos. They've done it to themselves with the help of their controlling parents, and their enabling pals they hang around with.
The minute someone places themselves behind the steering wheel while intoxicated or on drugs, they lose any ounce of respect from me and any sympathy......
I never understood how these girls were getting into clubs at 16, 17.
I am in my 30's and still sometimes get carded. :waitasec:
DEPUTYDAWG
07-26-2007, 01:14 PM
Hi DeputyD!
Yeah someone must have switched pockets with Lindsay!
Probably a velcro pocket craze amongst the young adults. You know rip one pocket off your jeans and replace them with another....anyone can switch pockets on you while you are going about your business.
Yep, Show Me-
And what luck :crazy: that the velcro "not my jeans/pocket" just happened to have a little illegal white powdery substance in them! Because most people who buy drugs really lose track of where their stashes are... :banghead:
DEPUTYDAWG
07-26-2007, 01:16 PM
I never understood how these girls were getting into clubs at 16, 17.
I am in my 30's and still sometimes get carded. :waitasec:
I've never understood that, either. :furious: :furious:
CarpeDiem
07-26-2007, 03:41 PM
I never understood how these girls were getting into clubs at 16, 17.
I am in my 30's and still sometimes get carded. :waitasec:
These places sell food too, that's one way they get away with it. And, once they get in, for the other reasons mentioned, they may not be going up to the bar to buy a drink, or ordering it themselves from a waiter or waitress. One person at their table in the VIP area orders a whole bottle and has so many glasses brought. The underage people just drink from the table. Then they lose their inhibitions and already didn't have the reasoning to make it through the ADULT situations and people they are going to be exposed to. They shouldn't get through the door PERIOD. Or how about a CURFEW for underage patrons. Or, raid these places and bust the adults. How hard can it be with video every where.
Smurf
07-26-2007, 04:18 PM
I remember seeing some e tv thing on LL and she was in a spat with Paris Hilton that nite outside whatever club they were at; they were BFF's the day before; she was spouting off about 'Paris hit me in the arm, and it REALLY hurt and it's not ok for her to do that' In the backgroud you can hear Paris yelling 'Firecrotch'. These are supposed to be adult women; puleeze; can you act anymore like 10 year olds. These Hollywood gals may have all the money in the world but they act like skanks;TRASH.
Firecrotch is kindof funny though. They probably both suffer from STDs since they are always drunk and high and promiscuous.
Amraann
07-26-2007, 04:24 PM
Lindsay, Paris, Britney! They all have enabling mothers who make excuses for them and their behavior until the brats start acting up against them. By then it's too late, the wild child girls are adults and uncontrollable.
And the owners of the bars are equally to blame. They don't care if a celebrity is underage, they just want the allure that the celebrity brings to their establishment. I agree with sandraladeda, they should start acting like adults and turn these girls away.
Speaking of Britney:
http://entertainment.msn.com/music/article.aspx?news=270081&affid=100055
Not only are their mother enablers their mothers are SKANKS Who sold their daughters out to show biz.
Paladin
07-26-2007, 04:58 PM
Not only are their mother enablers their mothers are SKANKS Who sold their daughters out to show biz.
Just playing devil's advocate here, but if your son or daughter was a talented actor/actress or musician and they could make millions of dollars AND they really wanted to do it...you wouldn't let them? And if you did let them, I wouldn't consider it selling them out.
Should I call up my parents and tell them they sold me out to "computer science?" :D
The problem is these mothers (I'm going to excuse Paris Hilton's mother from this discussion, because they were already rich before Paris) are living the hollywood lifestyle off of their children's coin. It's a no-brainer these girls are going to be in trouble if their mother's and father's run amok.
And let's face it, money tends to ruin people (but not all). Even if Britney or Lindsey's mothers tried to parent them, Britney or Lindsey could very well pull out the "I'm rich" card and tell them to step off.
KR2tonenow
07-26-2007, 05:00 PM
Not only are their mother enablers their mothers are SKANKS Who sold their daughters out to show biz.
Thank you for the information on the dolphin camp that looks like a wonderful place!
I think it all boils down to wealth and entitlement for these young women. There are so many other young women in music and movies that are doing very well.
These girls look for negative attention, its so sad. LL states she needs her privacy, yet she is wearing a bikini and spike heels to be published for all to see!
Taximom
07-26-2007, 07:34 PM
http://www.accesshollywood.com/news/ah6215.shtml
911 Call
Taximom
07-26-2007, 07:35 PM
How do they not know that is her GMC?
Show Me
07-26-2007, 07:44 PM
Yep, Show Me-
And what luck :crazy: that the velcro "not my jeans/pocket" just happened to have a little illegal white powdery substance in them! Because most people who buy drugs really lose track of where their stashes are... :banghead:
Latest news, Lindsay was wearing someone else's jeans....as in she put on someone else's pants, instead of her own, to chase down the assistant.
So Lindsay got into a fight in her underwear and hastly donned any old pair of jeans, not hers, that happened to be on the floor.
You know, if the ankle monitor hadn't detected the booze I might have believed her.
Taximom
07-26-2007, 07:48 PM
Latest news, Lindsay was wearing someone else's jeans....as in she put on someone else's pants, instead of her own, to chase down the assistant.
:laugh: :laugh: So Lindsay got into a fight in her underwear and hastly donned any old pair of jeans, not hers, that happened to be on the floor.
You know, if the ankle monitor hadn't detected the booze I might have believed her.
Gosh, my 11 yr old can come up with better stories than that! :rolleyes:
KR2tonenow
07-26-2007, 07:52 PM
The woman in the 911 call sounded "terrified", would that be added to LL's list - LL Stalker?
not good!
DEPUTYDAWG
07-26-2007, 08:48 PM
Latest news, Lindsay was wearing someone else's jeans....as in she put on someone else's pants, instead of her own, to chase down the assistant.
So Lindsay got into a fight in her underwear and hastly donned any old pair of jeans, not hers, that happened to be on the floor.
You know, if the ankle monitor hadn't detected the booze I might have believed her.
Don't ya just HATE that when that happens!? :rolleyes:
LMAO
lymom3
07-26-2007, 09:23 PM
Don't ya just HATE that when that happens!? :rolleyes:
LMAO
What was everyone doing with their pants off?
DEPUTYDAWG
07-26-2007, 09:26 PM
What was everyone doing with their pants off?
LOL, ewwwww, never really thought about it! ???
With these wild gals these days, I'm thinking I just don't want to know! ;)
Smurf
07-27-2007, 11:32 AM
Latest news, Lindsay was wearing someone else's jeans....as in she put on someone else's pants, instead of her own, to chase down the assistant.
So Lindsay got into a fight in her underwear and hastly donned any old pair of jeans, not hers, that happened to be on the floor.
You know, if the ankle monitor hadn't detected the booze I might have believed her.
I doubt she even wears underwear; that would be normal and clean instead of skanky and gross.
Squishified
07-27-2007, 11:35 AM
What was everyone doing with their pants off?
Maybe she was showing off her "firecrotch"?
Masterj
07-27-2007, 03:01 PM
Maybe they were her girlfriend Samantha Ronson's jeans. :rolleyes:
CarpeDiem
07-27-2007, 04:36 PM
Just cause it's Friday:
http://perezhilton.com/?p=2285
CarpeDiem
07-27-2007, 04:40 PM
Now, I think they got a pic of her earlier that night and I am suspecting, if it's really that, that those pants are the same one's she's arrested in.
Anngelique
07-27-2007, 05:06 PM
Go to TMZ.com and you can see the interview from the 3 guys that were involved. It seems Lindsay stole the guys car, ran over one of the guys foot, was going around 100 mph at times, ran stop lights and stop signs and then when the police were involved tried to say the black guy was driving. She threatened the guys in the car not to say anything. The guy's foot she ran over was scared so he jumped out and she ran over his foot and didn't even stop. The other two said they were scared out of their minds. There's 4 videos with the full interview on them. I tend to believe these guys!
Anngelique
07-27-2007, 05:16 PM
By the way, these pants had to be hers because this altercation happened at a party. The assistant and her boyfriend were in a fight. Lindsay came out and was screaming like a mad woman at the assistant to be quiet, etc. The assistant said she was so over Lindsay and that she quit. This infuriated Lindsay even more. As the assistant's boyfriend was leaving the assistant pulled him out of the car and the assistant jumped in her car and left. Lindsay jumped in another guy's car and chased her assistant. They were running lights and stop signs and going at speeds up to 100. The guys were screaming at her to stop and she said she wouldn't get in trouble because she was a celebrity. And then threatened them to keep their mouths shut. The assistant eventually lost Lindsay and so Lindsay thought she may have gone to her mother's house. This is where her mother was backing out of her house and Lindsay started chasing HER and she was so scared she went to the police station. You can hear the 911 tape of the mother and how afraid she was.
So Lindsay not only was drinking and driving, but she STOLE a car, held a couple guys captive, ran over another guy's foot, chased her assistant and then her mother, drove at a high rate of speed, ran stop signs and stop lights and almost got in a couple accidents from running these stop signs/lights.
I hope they throw the book at her this time!
Smurf
07-27-2007, 05:33 PM
It would have been so easy for someone to have be really hurt or killed while she was indulging in her self-important rants and doing whatever the heck she feels like doing.
I remember once my boyfrends cousin who was a little wild at heart had us all in an OJ style Ford Bronco and decided to go jump what we called "the terraces" Picture the type of little hills that BMX bike riders go flying over. My head was crashing into the ceiling and ice from the cooler going everywhere and I was begging for him to stop. He wasn't hearing any of that. It wasn't his vehicle and he was having fun afterall.
I can imagine Lindsey completely blocking out those boys requests for her to stop. It's all about her. What a nutcase.
Anngelique
07-27-2007, 05:44 PM
It would have been so easy for someone to have be really hurt or killed while she was indulging in her self-important rants and doing whatever the heck she feels like doing.
I remember once my boyfrends cousin who was a little wild at heart had us all in an OJ style Ford Bronco and decided to go jump what we called "the terraces" Picture the type of little hills that BMX bike riders go flying over. My head was crashing into the ceiling and ice from the cooler going everywhere and I was begging for him to stop. He wasn't hearing any of that. It wasn't his vehicle and he was having fun afterall.
I can imagine Lindsey completely blocking out those boys requests for her to stop. It's all about her. What a nutcase.
Did you get hurt Smurf?
Yes, these celebrity girls are out of control and it's all about them. I wish us members of their audience would stop giving them that much power. It's all about the power of money and they make WAY too MUCH for what they do.
Taximom
07-27-2007, 07:23 PM
Do celebrities really say "I'm a celebrity I won't get in trouble"? Really? I'm having a hard time believing those boys when they say that! Maybe all the other stuff is true, but what if they are just trying to make her look bad by making up that part of the story? Afterall, they are the friends of her assistant, right?
Not that it makes a big difference I guess.
Anngelique
07-27-2007, 07:29 PM
Do celebrities really say "I'm a celebrity I won't get in trouble"? Really? I'm having a hard time believing those boys when they say that! Maybe all the other stuff is true, but what if they are just trying to make her look bad by making up that part of the story? Afterall, they are the friends of her assistant, right?
Not that it makes a big difference I guess.She was drunk and probably under the influence of drugs. I totally could hear her saying that while under the influence. Kind of like Mel Gibson doing his rant while drunk. Sometimes they say things they would never say sober but things they've thought.
Only4Justice
07-27-2007, 07:47 PM
and I don't believe them! I'm not even sure I believe the "she ran over my foot" part. Very easy for someone to make up as a way to get money from LL.
It will be interesting to see exactly whose vehicle it was she was driving.
I do believe them when they say she was 'inebriated' :p
KR2tonenow
07-27-2007, 10:13 PM
It would have been so easy for someone to have be really hurt or killed while she was indulging in her self-important rants and doing whatever the heck she feels like doing.
I remember once my boyfrends cousin who was a little wild at heart had us all in an OJ style Ford Bronco and decided to go jump what we called "the terraces" Picture the type of little hills that BMX bike riders go flying over. My head was crashing into the ceiling and ice from the cooler going everywhere and I was begging for him to stop. He wasn't hearing any of that. It wasn't his vehicle and he was having fun afterall.
I can imagine Lindsey completely blocking out those boys requests for her to stop. It's all about her. What a nutcase.
Just call her her Lindsay Fully :laugh: Loaded!
philamena
07-27-2007, 11:35 PM
Go to TMZ.com and you can see the interview from the 3 guys that were involved. It seems Lindsay stole the guys car, ran over one of the guys foot, was going around 100 mph at times, ran stop lights and stop signs and then when the police were involved tried to say the black guy was driving. She threatened the guys in the car not to say anything. The guy's foot she ran over was scared so he jumped out and she ran over his foot and didn't even stop. The other two said they were scared out of their minds. There's 4 videos with the full interview on them. I tend to believe these guys!
:doh: omg this gal must have lost her mind. If the allegations by the 3 men are true, I think Lohan's carrier is over.
evelyn24
07-27-2007, 11:58 PM
PRETTY INTERESTING ARTICLE!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2136606,00.html
Those who collude in the public degradation of gifted young women are beneath contempt
Bidisha
Saturday July 28, 2007
The Guardian
Who doesn't love to speculate about good girls gone bad? Well, people who like and respect women don't. Nor do people who recognise that the rules prescribing what constitutes a "good" female are bigoted and hypocritical. A good girl is charming and comely, and never does anything to upset the status quo. A good girl does not dare to challenge the position society has put her in. A good girl is the ideal helpmate for a man, with neither a hair nor a thought out of place.
So it's a nasty shock for reactionaries to see Lindsay Lohan's latest police mugshot, in which she sends a fabulous look of "Yeah, I've been arrested. So what?" straight through the camera into the miasma of prurient dreck that is pop culture. So Lohan likes a drink. What's the problem? Women get drunk, fall over and hit the double standard face first. Further proof that womankind is pushing things a step too far is the news that Britney Spears acted brattishly at a recent photoshoot, wiping her hands on one dress and letting her pooch defecate on another.
CaliKid
07-28-2007, 12:22 AM
While I think there is something to this idea of a double standard, I honestly don't believe it makes a difference whether LL is male or female. We've all read about male celebrities who get drunk/use drugs and are out of control. No matter who is misbehaving, they still need to be punished.
Marthatex
07-28-2007, 12:21 PM
PRETTY INTERESTING ARTICLE!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2136606,00.html
Those who collude in the public degradation of gifted young women are beneath contempt
Bidisha
Saturday July 28, 2007
The Guardian
Who doesn't love to speculate about good girls gone bad? Well, people who like and respect women don't. Nor do people who recognise that the rules prescribing what constitutes a "good" female are bigoted and hypocritical. A good girl is charming and comely, and never does anything to upset the status quo. A good girl does not dare to challenge the position society has put her in. A good girl is the ideal helpmate for a man, with neither a hair nor a thought out of place.
So it's a nasty shock for reactionaries to see Lindsay Lohan's latest police mugshot, in which she sends a fabulous look of "Yeah, I've been arrested. So what?" straight through the camera into the miasma of prurient dreck that is pop culture. So Lohan likes a drink. What's the problem? Women get drunk, fall over and hit the double standard face first. Further proof that womankind is pushing things a step too far is the news that Britney Spears acted brattishly at a recent photoshoot, wiping her hands on one dress and letting her pooch defecate on another.
That article is a little much. Though I think it may be more difficult for women to navigate the pop star world than men; I don't think women are treated worse by the media - when Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson, for instance, act like idiots or get into trouble, they are lambasted too.
I think the problems of Britney, Lohan, Paris, are brought on by themselves and their families - being raised as child stars deprives them of a decent education and normal lives; the parents project everything onto the child, who is brought up with a limited value system, or awareness of what is "normal".
JBean
07-28-2007, 12:58 PM
Just call her her Lindsay Fully :laugh: Loaded!
Our local radio station has a contest every year called the Ghoul Pool. The first week in January, listeners submit 3 people that they think will die during the upcoming year. You get more points if you pick someone young and healthy as opposed to someone in their 90's that has been ill for a time. It sounds sick but it is truly fascinating at the end of the year to see who got the most picks right.
Anyway, they are now starting a mini ghoul pool as to who listeners think will die this year between LL, BS, PH and NR. :eek:
Ghoul Pool 2007! (http://www.johnandkenshow.com/archives/2007/01/08/ghoul-poul-2007/)
Posted by The John and Ken Show @ 8:00 am
THANKS TO ALL WHO ENTERED THE 2007 GHOUL POOL CELEBRITY CONTEST!
The contest ended at 11:59 p.m. Sunday, January 7th. Sorry, but all entries received past that time will be discarded.
KR2tonenow
07-28-2007, 01:09 PM
Our local radio station has a contest every year called the Ghoul Pool. The first week in January, listeners submit 3 people that they think will die during the upcoming year. You get more points if you pick someone young and healthy as opposed to someone in their 90's that has been ill for a time. It sounds sick but it is truly fascinating at the end of the year to see who got the most picks right.
Anyway, they are now starting a mini ghoul pool as to who listeners think will die this year between LL, BS, PH and NR. :eek:
I wont tell you who I think....scary!
southcitymom
07-28-2007, 01:21 PM
Our local radio station has a contest every year called the Ghoul Pool. The first week in January, listeners submit 3 people that they think will die during the upcoming year. You get more points if you pick someone young and healthy as opposed to someone in their 90's that has been ill for a time. It sounds sick but it is truly fascinating at the end of the year to see who got the most picks right.
Anyway, they are now starting a mini ghoul pool as to who listeners think will die this year between LL, BS, PH and NR. :eek:
LL or BS, IMHO, with LL nudging her out by a hair just because she has a much more disastrous family support system, IMHO.
Show Me
07-28-2007, 04:47 PM
Our local radio station has a contest every year called the Ghoul Pool. The first week in January, listeners submit 3 people that they think will die during the upcoming year. You get more points if you pick someone young and healthy as opposed to someone in their 90's that has been ill for a time. It sounds sick but it is truly fascinating at the end of the year to see who got the most picks right.
Anyway, they are now starting a mini ghoul pool as to who listeners think will die this year between LL, BS, PH and NR. :eek:
Lindsay Lohan's going to jail, Paris is too shrewd and has the most common sense of the bunch...as if that is a compliment. Nicole is pregnant and will be forced to take care of herself, for the baby's sake, by her family and friends.
Britney is a walking time bomb...I truly think she's very, very mentally ill. I think Brit Brit's boys will be okay, thanks to her staff and Kfed. I believe he will end up with the kids and Britney will self destruct! Unless she is given the help she needs. How? I don't know. If Britney's mom and (soon to be ex) can't make her get the help she needs, only a complete disaster or meltdown will...if Britney survives.
luvbeaches
07-28-2007, 06:25 PM
I never thought I'd say this...but Paris doesn't look so bad these days when you compare her to Lindsay, Brittney, and the other one...what's her name...the one that did the show with Paris.
But they are all a mess. One of them is going to end up dead, and I just hope they don't take an innocent person with them.
luvbeaches
07-28-2007, 06:27 PM
This isn't really part of the discussion...but does anyone have any idea who that attorney gal is that's been on Nancy Grace lately? She drives me nuts. I think it's Susan or something like that. My God, when she talks, she's practically spitting all over the place. The way she opens her mouth...with her teeth and all...it's odd. I don't mean to be mean...but she looks like a rabid animal that's about to attack.
luvbeaches
07-28-2007, 06:33 PM
I even have been tuning into Greta these days...and I have to say, I LOVE those three guys she usually has on...Ted Williams, Bernie Grimm, and Jim Hammer. They really click when together.
I about rolled off the couch laughing at them last night. They were in rare form. lol Bernie mentioned how Lindsey blamed the "black" guy and then Bernie said he does the same thing with Ted. OMG...then they all laughed and got in on it.
I used to love watching Ted when he was still the "former DC cop" but when he became an attorney, he started rubbing me the wrong way (with his comments). I don't know if it's me, but he seems to have lightened up a bit and is back to the old Ted that I loved watching.
I know there's nothing funny about what these stupid girls are up to (and everyone on Greta said this), but my God, the things they are doing. Will it ever end? I suppose it's good for the talk shows...these idiots sure give them a lot to choose from as far as things to talk about...but I wonder how long it's going to be before one of them is killed...or they kill someone else (in one of their drunk/drug moments).
KR2tonenow
07-28-2007, 09:44 PM
Last night on ET, a reporter talked to Dina Lohan when she was at the Child Support hearing and they asked how Lindsay was doing? Dina replied, "She's safe."
How interesting? Did she comment on the many people that were "unsafe" that night, when LL was driving like a maniac on Malibu and into Santa Monica.
The selfishness of these people astound me. I hope they throw the book at her and sue her for wreckless endangerment!
reportertype
07-28-2007, 10:28 PM
I think LL's mom is completely worthless. It'll be interesting to see how the other daughter comes out.
I think LL is the worst off of the bunch, putting her slightly ahead of Britney only because LL keeps getting arrested and Brit hasn't yet done that. It sounds like she's getting close though, after this incident in Vegas.
Taximom
07-29-2007, 12:40 AM
:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Last night on ET, a reporter talked to Dina Lohan when she was at the Child Support hearing and they asked how Lindsay was doing? Dina replied, "She's safe." :sick:
How interesting? Did she comment on the many people that were "unsafe" that night, when LL was driving like a maniac on Malibu and into Santa Monica.
The selfishness of these people astound me. I hope they throw the book at her and sue her for wreckless endangerment!
Peter Hamilton
07-29-2007, 01:15 AM
Lindsay Lohan's going to jail, Paris is too shrewd and has the most common sense of the bunch...as if that is a compliment. Nicole is pregnant and will be forced to take care of herself, for the baby's sake, by her family and friends..--really getting sick of these three, but I will say one thing--Lindsey Lohan definitely has the best figure--
Peter Hamilton
07-29-2007, 01:19 AM
:doh: omg this gal must have lost her mind. If the allegations by the 3 men are true, I think Lohan's carrier is over.--Well, her career is nearly over already--Her latest film, I Know Who Killed Me,is opening to withering reviews--I think its her 4th or 5th bomb in a row
CaliKid
07-29-2007, 03:22 AM
Our local radio station has a contest every year called the Ghoul Pool. The first week in January, listeners submit 3 people that they think will die during the upcoming year. You get more points if you pick someone young and healthy as opposed to someone in their 90's that has been ill for a time. It sounds sick but it is truly fascinating at the end of the year to see who got the most picks right.
Anyway, they are now starting a mini ghoul pool as to who listeners think will die this year between LL, BS, PH and NR. :eek:
Ghoul Pool 2007! (http://www.johnandkenshow.com/archives/2007/01/08/ghoul-poul-2007/)
Posted by The John and Ken Show @ 8:00 am
THANKS TO ALL WHO ENTERED THE 2007 GHOUL POOL CELEBRITY CONTEST!
The contest ended at 11:59 p.m. Sunday, January 7th. Sorry, but all entries received past that time will be discarded.
Well, we already had our death of the year- Anna Nicole.
JBean
07-29-2007, 03:25 AM
Well, we already had our death of the year- Anna Nicole.
It will be interesting to see if anyone picked her in the ghoul pool.
Tom'sGirl
08-23-2007, 06:35 PM
One day in jail, 10 days Communtiy Service :doh:
ETA: Should have also mentioned:
She was also placed on 36 months probation, is required to complete an 18-month alcohol education program, pay hundreds of dollars in fines and must complete a three-day county coroner program in which she'll visit a morgue and talk to victims of drunken drivers.
http://tinyurl.com/25zv9l
philamena
08-23-2007, 06:37 PM
what??? THAT should be against the law.
JBean
08-23-2007, 09:15 PM
Nicole Ritchie just spent 82 minutes in jail.
Tom'sGirl
08-23-2007, 10:05 PM
Nicole Ritchie just spent 82 minutes in jail.
That's right, we must love our bad girls out here :silenced:
Lauren
08-24-2007, 12:39 PM
Go check out
omovies.com to see the spoof on Lindsay
I laughed so hard
I know you are not suppose to make fun of people
but sometimes......................:slap:
KR2tonenow
08-24-2007, 01:01 PM
At least she finally admitted she has a drug problem, at least now she has 3 years to get together and hire a driver and stay of the road!!
Lauren
08-24-2007, 01:06 PM
Stupid girl couldn't hire a driver if she was going to booze it up? And cocaine is cocaine. When did it get legal in any amount? Her PR sounds pretty spinned out of a 12 step book and a lawyer plus pr. She didn't write any of it............. IMO
Show Me
08-24-2007, 02:25 PM
Nicole Ritchie just spent 82 minutes in jail.
Getting processed in then immediately processed out...
Lauren
08-24-2007, 02:37 PM
Her weave was falling out............... Come on now!:behindbar
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