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Up2theminute
02-15-2004, 07:23 PM
I'm starting this thread off for smile22 who didn't know how to start one.
Here is some information about Pockett from the missing person's cold case network.

Janice K. Pockett
MPCCN Case File: 33F70
Vital Statistics at Time of Disappearance


Missing Since: July 26, 1973 from Tolland, Connecticut
Classification: Non-Family Abduction
Date Of Birth: October 15, 1965
Age: 8 years old
Height and Weight: 4'0, 65 pounds
Distinguishing Characteristics: Blonde hair; blue eyes. Pockett has a gap between her front teeth.

Details of Disappearance here:
http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/mpccn/pockett.html

smile22
02-16-2004, 02:10 PM
if anyone wants to help me please let me know ive been collecting info on her case lots of info from what ive been reading and info from a friend of mine who can see things like a psyhic






shorty

WasBlind
03-02-2004, 07:12 PM
What sort of help do you need, shorty?

Here are some matches for Janice on yahoo, and Doe

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=%22Janice+K.+Pockett%22&ei=UTF-8&fr=fp-tab-web-t&cop=mss&tab=

http://doenetwork.org/85dfct.html

National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) have her case page and printable flyer

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewChildDetail&caseNum=923957&orgPrefix=NCMC&seqNum=1&caseLang=en_US&searchLang=en_US

http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=923957&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

Her case is featured on Protect Your Kids-Connecticut at this addy

http://pub12.ezboard.com/fmissing87975frm65

Contact me at MissingProfiles@yahoo.com if you need help with something, ok? It's what I do. Blessings, and thanks for caring for the missing.
In Christ's love, Lanie

smile22
03-03-2004, 02:21 PM
im trying to solve her case and find out what really happend to her so her family can somehow have some peace, it brakes my heart when i see a child missing at such a young age and has been missing for years and never been found

WasBlind
03-03-2004, 05:53 PM
OK, well that sounds like a plan. Contact me, and myself and the other search angels will help you as much as we can. The majority of the work will fall on your shoulders, but I can send you a great list of things to do to get started, ok?

God bless you for caring for this family. I pray your work will bring success, and you can help this family find an answer.
Blessings to you, Lanie
MissingProfiles@yahoo.com

WasBlind
03-29-2004, 02:19 PM
For Janice

Minnie
04-08-2004, 08:23 AM
Hi, I found this site by typing in Janice Pocketts name in Google. A colleague of mine freelances for Connecticuts Most Wanted, a paper that has cold cases, active cases, missing persons and criminals. She called me the other day to ask me to help her on the Janice Pockett case, she wants me to go with her to meet an officer that was on the case at the time it happened and maybe go to the site where her bike was found. I can sometimes "see" things and have helped police in several other cases. I have had time to check out a couple of sites that were posted by WasBlind and one thing I did see was in one of them (a blue van). I also have a sense of where she is buried, at least the kind of soil that is around her. I'm not sure when, or even IF we will be able to follow through on this, but I'm glad I found this site and I will keep you posted if anything becomes of this........I truly hope it does, for her families sake.....thank you for allowing me to share.

joellegirl
04-09-2004, 02:39 AM
[QUOTE=Up2theminute]I'm starting this thread off for smile22 who didn't know how to start one.
Hi all, I am new here. The Janice Pockett case is one of several that have always interested me. Does anyone know if her family is still in Connecticut? Did she have any siblings? I hope with the technology we have now the case will soon be solved. Good luck to the people who are looking into this cold case again.

gardenmom
04-09-2004, 04:30 AM
wasblind,
I hope noone minds me posting this here. I went to doe network with the above link. I started looking around, and I am just so shocked. I couldn't believe all the people there. I looked for nearly two hours, and the pages just go on and on and I'm sure I am not even close to the end. I know that there are many missing people, but to see their faces, their ages, their short blurbs to their lives. It's just sureal. My heart broke for all their families. It also made me realize that I am not being paranoid with my children. On the contrary, I may not be paranoid enough. I read many stories of children that were taken right from their own yards. My kids always play in our yard or across the street. Yes, I can see them from the window, but I am not always looking out the window.
I just wanted to come back and tell you all that I am so upset by this. I'm trying not to cry, but all those little babies and young children...

smile22
05-04-2004, 02:05 PM
ok ive been following this case since before i found ws i happend to find some info on janice from another posting on ws but was just speculation about someone being her was one link on her i couldnt get my ws account to work so i decided just to search the web for lots of info it brought me to a site called haveyouseenandy.com he went missing a few years after janice in lowel mass which is 20miles from tolland ct where janice went missing they thought both of them were taken by the same person but the guy who confessed charles peirce was in jail old and dying of numerus sicknesses from what i have been reading most of the articles say he said he burried a young girl and boy in the late 50s early 60s but janice and andy went missing in the 70s they prolly thought he was out of it went with him to a site he said he disposed of them but nuthing was found so he wasnt conviced he died in jail a few years later i think taking anything he knew or didnt know to his grave, what im trying to find out that none of the sites are listing is did her bike ever get found? or did it go missing with her becuse with new technology they could finger print the bike if it was preserved properly

smile22
05-04-2004, 02:11 PM
never mind on the bike it sliped my mind i was just re reading a website on her and her bike was found i read to many cases and sometimes get my info mixed up

talelights
05-07-2004, 09:33 PM
The Doe Network:
Case File 532DFCT

Connie Smith
Missing since July 16, 1952 from U.S. Route 44 in Salisbury, Litchfield County, Connecticut.

Ten year old Connie Smith walked away from camp, July 1952 and in spite of her family and law enforcement best efforts she has never been found. I am a writer researching her story and want to know what happened on that day and to return her to her family. I am looking for any information about any other attempts or abductions or strange events in the tri-state area of MA, NY and CT where Connie was lost anytime before 1952 or after.

We need more information on this very old case. Anyone with additional information please contact me. All information will be held confidential, if requested.

I have the names of other girls in Connecticut reported missing or are unsolved homicides. I am interested in any information on these cases.

Casshew
05-07-2004, 09:36 PM
We need more information on this very old case. Anyone with additional information please contact me. All information will be held confidential, if requested.

I have the names of other girls in Connecticut reported missing or are unsolved homicides. I am interested in any information on these cases.

Good luck talelights, this is a very old case.. over half a century! I hope the answere are out there somewhere.

smile22
05-08-2004, 12:29 AM
i dont have much info on these cases pocketts or the other girl's case another poster in a few post back talks about her friend whos a frelance writer in ct for cold cases and they might talk to one of the poeple on the case of pockett see if they can spark some missing holes or someting try pm'ing her to see if she has any more info the web is so limited and if i dont have any le friends not much i can drag up

WasBlind
07-05-2004, 02:56 PM
For Janice

With HOPE, Lanie
Help For The Missing
HelpForTheMissing@yahoo.com

smile22
07-26-2004, 12:00 PM
today is 31 years since janice pockett went missing in 1973


i pray that she is found


i will be lighting a candle for her tonite to remeber her

smile22
08-05-2004, 10:52 AM
i have some new info check out my thread on dug chapman read his story on his website, i found him on the guest book at doenetwork emailed him started talking to him about janice, now this person mike was kidnaped in 71... in 73 he said he was in connecticut.. says there was one girl in 73 but she died in a fire... the kidnapers told them to light a match in the basement and left the girl there, they had to listen to the kidnapers for fear of their life what do you think? he says hes not postive but almost certin it was janice he dosent remeber much and looking at her pic not really helping eather

smile22
08-06-2004, 04:18 PM
ok disregard my last posting,... ive been going through my notes again on janice and dont think the 2 people cases are linked.. i think bar jhones had something to do with her disaperance

Richard
10-31-2004, 12:17 AM
quote: The late Charles Pierce, a pedophile who was suspected in many child disappearance cases in New England throughout the 1950's - 1970's, confessed to Pockett's murder. He claimed to have buried her in the Lawrence, Massachusetts area near an unidenitified boy who was another victim. The boy was thought to be Angelo Puglisi, a Massachusetts child who vanished three years after Pockett in 1976. Neither of the supposed graves has been discovered. unquote.

It would be interesting to know how much of what Charles Pierce told investigators was later proven true or at least accurate. And where specifically did he say these graves were? He must have given investigators some pretty specific directions to them. I can just see an afternoon digging party of two or three cops who quickly decide that there is "nothing there" so that they can go home. And any subsequent questions on the subject are automatically cast aside, because "We looked and didn't find anything".
My bet is that those graves are within fifty yards of where Pierce said they were.

smile22
10-31-2004, 06:42 PM
they did look at the place where he said they were but found nothing to indicate that they were burried there. the dates he gave them on the children he burried were in the late 50's early 60's police went into numerous records. and found no one to missing at that time, janice went missing in 73 and andy a few years later peirce was in and out of it when he said that he was suffring from cancer, ephasema and numerus other illiness. i live in ct about 45 minnuts from where janice was taken, ive done lots of research and am friends with someone who is a cold case writer and has lots of info on the case. from reading what i have i am almost positive peirce did not take her. you have to look at how she was taken and see if anyone else was taken like she was and try and find a link im trying to do that now when i first started looking into her case i never thought of that. i would love to here what other people think of janices case. we also have to see if peirce was in the area in 1973. we know he was in mass a few years later

Richard
11-01-2004, 12:13 AM
Pierce may or may not have taken Janice. To reach a conclusion one way or the other would require in depth research and knowledge of a number of things. Realizing that probably every serial killer is also a very skilled liar is a prerequisite to any thoughts on the matter. Pierce might have been trying to set the record straight by correctly stating that he killed Janice and buried her in a certain location. He might also have been lying for any of a number of reasons. The entire context of his confession or statement would need to be put to the test. How accurate was he on other subjects? Did he actually have knowledge of the crime that was only known to the police? Was his confession coerced? Was it given in hopes of better treatment?
Regardless of who kidnapped Janice, it is very likely that she was killed, and probably buried somewhere close to where she was last seen. What methods were used to search for her grave? Was it simply a shovel test hole or was in ground radar, or magnetic anomaly detection equipment used?

smile22
11-03-2004, 10:04 AM
there were also a few other girls young girls in there teens who were also taken and murdered in a few towns over from janice im now looking into the possibity that the same person that took janice also murderd these other girls one of the girls i was reading about was in critical condition at the time in the hospital it was from a news paper file someone sent me i am wating to here back from them on if she made it.

Richard
11-03-2004, 10:53 AM
Check the thread on: MARIA FLORENCE ANJIRAS Missing 12 Feb 1976 Norwalk, CT

Link
http://www.missingkids.com/missingkids/servlet/PubCaseSearchServlet?act=viewPoster&caseNum=939153&orgPrefix=NCMC&searchLang=en_US

smile22
11-18-2004, 12:23 PM
(Copyright @ The Hartford Courant 1993)
"The missing persons unit of the Connecticut State Police, formed in 1985, lists in its registry only one missing-child case, the 1988 disappearance of 12-year-old Doreen Vincent.

Doreen is listed as an "endangered runaway," although that category does not rule out abduction. Shortly before her disappearance, she had moved with her father and stepmother to Wallingford from Bridgeport. Police were told she left home the evening of June 15, 1988, with money and clothing.

Wallingford police Sgt. Thomas Curran said the department made an extensive search for Vincent, both locally and in the Bridgeport-Norwalk area. "Her status now is still `missing,' " he said recently.

State police Sgt. Raymond Pyka, who heads the missing persons clearinghouse -- one of several state units set up in response to the 1984 Missing Children's Assistance Act -- said recent state budget cuts have reduced the unit, which once actively assisted in missing-child investigations, to mere record-keeping.

He recalled three other cases -- and said there may be others across the state -- in which neither the child nor a body ever was recovered:

Lisa White, 13, of Vernon, was last seen about the night of Nov. 1, 1974, along Route 83 in that town.

Janice Pockett, 7, vanished in Tolland on July 26, 1973.

Debbie Spickler, 13, of Mystic, was visiting a relative in Vernon when she disappeared from Henry Park on July 24, 1968.

"Nothing has ever been found," Pyka said. "They dropped off the face of the earth."
Tolland is next to Vernon.
Stephanie Olisky, 15 East Windsor, 7/21/75 Found on Route 5 Critical Condition. Later dies. In East Windsor. Just two towns away from Vernon.

Pattie Luce abducted and later found murdered from Vernon (1977?) Found deceased in Marlborough.

Susan Larosa abducted in 1975 from Vernon found deceased a few years later south of I 84 in Vernon.

These cases are probably the same individual."




what do u think about this

Richard
11-18-2004, 11:37 PM
[QUOTE=smile22:
He recalled three other cases -- and said there may be others across the state -- in which neither the child nor a body ever was recovered:
Lisa White, 13, of Vernon, was last seen about the night of Nov. 1, 1974, along Route 83 in that town.
Janice Pockett, 7, vanished in Tolland on July 26, 1973.
Debbie Spickler, 13, of Mystic, was visiting a relative in Vernon when she disappeared from Henry Park on July 24, 1968.

"Nothing has ever been found," Pyka said. "They dropped off the face of the earth."
Tolland is next to Vernon.
Stephanie Olisky, 15 East Windsor, 7/21/75 Found on Route 5 Critical Condition. Later dies. In East Windsor. Just two towns away from Vernon.

Pattie Luce abducted and later found murdered from Vernon (1977?) Found deceased in Marlborough.

Susan Larosa abducted in 1975 from Vernon found deceased a few years later south of I 84 in Vernon.

These cases are probably the same individual."
what do u think about this[/QUOTE]

It would be hard to state that it IS the same perpetrator, but a preponderance of coincidences and similarities would give cause to assume that it is the same guy - at least to try to find more evidence of links. Most of the cases mentioned are not readily accessable via internet links, due to their age. A careful study of all published stories on these cases in newspaper microfilm files might provide information linking them more strongly.
Questions that I would be asking would be specifics about the wounds and injuries, and weapons/techniques that were used on the known murder victims. Also, where were they buried or dumped? If any were in remote locations, perhaps the killer used the area before and a careful search with inground radar might reveal more bodies.

smile22
03-01-2005, 01:22 PM
on my local news station fox they had a special assignment on cold cases they talked about this one where this guy was driving on some highway and some bullet killed him or something. then they went into the janice pockett case and they talked a little about her missing how she broke away from her mother to find a butterfly and vanished. and how ct has one of the few high tech crime labs in the usa and how we have these special machines and stuff. after it was over i turned on my light near the sofa and moved to the computer desk. and a few secs later i heard the light click off it was the weirdest thing. maybe someone watching knows something,

smile22
05-10-2005, 11:42 AM
july 26 2005 will mark the 32 ann on the disaperance of janice pockett. its so sad that 32 years and no trace of her no clues no nothing. im going to burn a candle for her on that day. and pray for her.

shadowangel
05-10-2005, 04:29 PM
on my local news station fox they had a special assignment on cold cases they talked about this one where this guy was driving on some highway and some bullet killed him or something. then they went into the janice pockett case and they talked a little about her missing how she broke away from her mother to find a butterfly and vanished. and how ct has one of the few high tech crime labs in the usa and how we have these special machines and stuff. after it was over i turned on my light near the sofa and moved to the computer desk. and a few secs later i heard the light click off it was the weirdest thing. maybe someone watching knows something,Where did they get the bit about her breaking away from her mother, chasing a butterfly? I thought she disappeared while riding her bike...

joellegirl
05-10-2005, 07:54 PM
Where did they get the bit about her breaking away from her mother, chasing a butterfly? I thought she disappeared while riding her bike...

I read in Newspaper Archives a small article from 1973 that mentioned Janice told her mother she was going to ride her bike around the neighborhood and look for a butterfly she hid by some rocks or logs. The "breaking away from her mother" I guess is just a figure of speech, meaning she left her mother at home to go look for the butterfly. I hadn't heard that part either before, but that is my take on it. I don't think it was a case of them walking hand in hand and Janice broke loose to look for the butterfly. All accounts I have read said she left home alone on her bike, and only in that one little article in Newspaper Archives mentioned the butterfly.

I think about Janice alot-it's been so long and no trace....

smile22
05-11-2005, 09:24 AM
i think the news station also said something about her and her sister geting into an argument, and janice just rode off on the bike. im not sure how true that is. i know there was one person that was looked as a possible suspect, ( i think he was) beacuse he was the first one on the scene. and he had a history with asulting women or something of that nature.

smile22
07-04-2005, 12:34 PM
just wanted to let everyone know that her 32 ann of her disaperance is comming up this july 26th im posting early since i will be on vacation that week and wont have acess to a computer. i know i will be praying for her wherever she may be. 32 years and still no answers to what happend to her or where she is. i also checked out doe and an age progression was done on her to what she would have looked like at 39

sister
07-04-2005, 11:44 PM
This is my forst tme posting here, but I have been reading Websleuths for a while. I am Janice's sister and I just want to thank everyone for their efforts. It is very difficult not knowing waht happened, and I very much appreciate everyone's kind words and thoughts.

mysteriew
07-05-2005, 04:38 AM
This is my forst tme posting here, but I have been reading Websleuths for a while. I am Janice's sister and I just want to thank everyone for their efforts. It is very difficult not knowing waht happened, and I very much appreciate everyone's kind words and thoughts.

Sister, welcome to WS. I know being here and dragging up old memories may be difficult for you. But anytime you feel up to giving us case info., correcting any misinformation, or giving new information- please feel free to do so. The more info you give, the better the ideas that may come up.
I hope that someday your sister can be found and properly returned to her family. But in the meantime, Welcome!

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a255/mysteriew/proud/welcomegroup.gif

smile22
07-05-2005, 10:08 AM
welcome sister to ws. i know it must be hard for you.. posting on here and stuff. if u want feel free to pm me im very intrested in your sisters case. im from ct and when i first started researching missing persons your sisters case was the first one i saw since i started in connecticut, her case really tuched my heart and i hope someday she can be brought home. if u havent already, read the back posts on this thread and let us know what u think on some of the stuff that was posted



alie

joellegirl
07-05-2005, 03:02 PM
Sister,
I would also like to welcome you to Websleuths, and thank you for posting. My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. The wondering must be so hard.

Like the other posters said, if you are up to it, please feel free to share more info, or if you see mistakes, please let us know.

I've often wondered if family members, of the missing people we discuss here, read this site. Your post, and a few others recently from different cold cases, show that does happen.

As you can see, alot of us think about Janice, and hopefully soon some answers can be found. Her story has stayed with me ever since I first read about it a few years back.

Thanks again for posting, and again, welcome to this forum.

sister
07-06-2005, 07:06 PM
Thank you for making me feel welcome. I thought about it for a long time before deciding to post here.
What kind of information would be helpful? I have been in contact with the detective in carge of my sister's case, but not too recently. I'm not sure if he is still assigned to her case.
I know Bar Jonah is still a possible suspect, and that police (and FBI) want to eventually talk with him, but that may be awhile, until his legal issues are settled in Montana. I believe he wasn't yet 16 at the time of Janice's disappearance, but was known to drive around in a relative's car.
I also know that Charles Pierce was ruled out as a suspect despite his confession. I guess he just didn't know enough about Janice, and he had a history of making false confessions. I still wonder about him though. I believe he was was an acquaintance of someone named Wayne W. Chapman, who is in prison now I think for molesting boys in Massachussetts. I think he was possibly connected to Andy Puglisi (?).
What other info would be helpful?

joellegirl
07-06-2005, 07:30 PM
Thanks again for posting, sister. Do you see any errors in our posts about Janice? We just go by what we've read but maybe you know some details, big or small?

If it isn't too hard for you, can you share what Janice was like? When I follow cases like this it helps to know more than just the vital statistics. Are you older or younger? Again, I totally understand if you aren't up to talking about stuff like this.

smile22
07-06-2005, 08:53 PM
Thank you for making me feel welcome. I thought about it for a long time before deciding to post here.
What kind of information would be helpful? I have been in contact with the detective in carge of my sister's case, but not too recently. I'm not sure if he is still assigned to her case.
I know Bar Jonah is still a possible suspect, and that police (and FBI) want to eventually talk with him, but that may be awhile, until his legal issues are settled in Montana. I believe he wasn't yet 16 at the time of Janice's disappearance, but was known to drive around in a relative's car.
I also know that Charles Pierce was ruled out as a suspect despite his confession. I guess he just didn't know enough about Janice, and he had a history of making false confessions. I still wonder about him though. I believe he was was an acquaintance of someone named Wayne W. Chapman, who is in prison now I think for molesting boys in Massachussetts. I think he was possibly connected to Andy Puglisi (?).
What other info would be helpful?



wyane amd charles were both linked to andy puglisi peirce lived in the area at one time and so did wayne i think they found a bloddy sock in waynes van but were unable to determine if it was andys and the sock got lost somewhere along the way

sister
07-07-2005, 06:56 PM
I was only 6 when Janice disappeared; she was 7. I don't remember a whole lot from that day. I do know that we went grocery shopping that day, and I remember my mother was putting away groceries and Janice and I were fighting over our new toothbrushes. Shortly after that Janice left to ride her bike up to the dirt road near our house to retrieve a butterfly she had hidden under a rock a couple of days earlier during a walk we had taken. I think it was the first time my mother ever let her go anywhere by herself. I remember going with my mother to look for Janice and seeing her bike standing up by the side of the road (the fact that it was standing up makes me think that she was probably coaxed off her bike rather than grabbed off it). I remember that I didn't realize how serious the situation was until the next day when I saw my grandfather crying.
I feel like I don't remember a lot about Janice. I wish I could remember her more. I remember we used to fight a lot. And we used to sneak into each others bedrooms at night, just to see if we could get away with it.
I think my parents thought they were protecting me by not talking about Janice a lot, or maybe they just couldn't.

joellegirl
07-09-2005, 12:54 PM
Sister, thank you for sharing your memories of Janice and what you remember from that day. It gives us a whole new insight on the story. Please feel free to continue to post. As you can see, alot of us think about Janice.

smile22
07-24-2005, 07:01 AM
two more days and it will be the 31st ann of janice pockett missing.. i hope someday we can find the answers to her vanishing

shadowangel
09-26-2005, 03:51 PM
I have no idea if these are in any way related, but when I read this story I immediately thought of Janice...

Mary Olenchuk, 13, went missing from her parents' vacation home in Ogunquit, ME on August 9th, 1970. The family actually lived in Joliet, IL. Her father, a retired general, was the former commander of Fort Derrick. On August 24th, 1970, the decomposed remains of Mary were found in an abandoned barn near Kennebunk, ME.

A witness had reported to police she observed Mary park her bike and get into a maroon car operated by an unknown male. I Googled her name and found a site that lists her murder as still unsolved.

mere
10-17-2005, 02:01 PM
Was Janices bike ever found?

joellegirl
10-17-2005, 06:54 PM
Was Janices bike ever found?

Yes, her bike was found right away. Go a few posts up in this thread and Janice's sister describes how they found her bike on the side of the road, with it's kick stand down. Other accounts of this case also mention how Janice's bike was found, but no trace of her anywhere. I believe I read somewhere her bike is still in the evidence room at the police station, but I'm not sure.

mere
10-18-2005, 12:35 PM
Thanks I missed that.

smile22
10-18-2005, 01:59 PM
her bike is deff in the evidence room i have spoken to a few people who are involved in her case and they have the only thing that was left behind which was the bike

shadowangel
10-18-2005, 02:10 PM
Just an off-the-wall question...I wonder if the bike was ever checked for forensic evidence. The person who grabbed Janice may have handled the bike, possibly to move it out of the way or place it in a less obvious location. There could be prints or something that were missed originally but may be detected with more modern methods.

smile22
10-19-2005, 10:53 AM
Just an off-the-wall question...I wonder if the bike was ever checked for forensic evidence. The person who grabbed Janice may have handled the bike, possibly to move it out of the way or place it in a less obvious location. There could be prints or something that were missed originally but may be detected with more modern methods.


yes i feel the same way to i have spoken to a few people and one of them is not sure if they ever did and the other one is geting back to me if they havent i think they should dust or do whatever it is they do to find the stuff on the bike and enter it in a database

mere
10-19-2005, 10:55 AM
Would finger prints still be on the bike after all this time?

shadowangel
10-19-2005, 12:02 PM
More than likely, yes. As long as they have not been disturbed. The problem usually comes in the handling of the evidence, as sometimes the evidence is no longer handled with much care if it has supposedly been checked...However, consider the variety of surfaces on a bike where prints or other evidence could be-under the seat, perhaps, if the bike were picked up, palm prints if someone were to wrap a hand around one of the bars...

I think it is worth a look, in any event.

mere
10-19-2005, 12:12 PM
In 1973 would they check for prints as standard procedure?

shadowangel
10-19-2005, 12:39 PM
Fingerprinting for evidence has been procedure for forever, I just wonder...Would they have printed the bike? I'm not so sure that they would have. LE may not have thought there was anything to be gained by it.

mere
10-19-2005, 12:52 PM
They also did not have the fingerprint data bases that they have today.

shadowangel
10-19-2005, 02:06 PM
Precisely! And, for all anyone knows, the sick bastard who took Janice may have left DNA on the bike...Hopefully Smile22 can push someone into doing something with this!

smile22
10-19-2005, 02:27 PM
Precisely! And, for all anyone knows, the sick bastard who took Janice may have left DNA on the bike...Hopefully Smile22 can push someone into doing something with this!



i am going to email a the dectctive in charge of her case and see what they can find

mere
10-19-2005, 02:36 PM
keep us posted

sister
10-22-2005, 11:46 AM
I am 99 % sure that the police dusted Janice's bike for fingerprints. It is still in the possesion of the state police. The police also came into our home and dusted for fingerprints (Janice's toys for example), and I recall getting printed myself.
I know that the police are still interested in speaking with Nathaniel Bar Jonah, who is in prison in Montana I believe, but are waiting for all of his appeals to be completed.
Janice would have been 40 on October 15th. Hard to believe....

shadowangel
10-22-2005, 04:39 PM
There are a lot of new techniques and materials which have come in to use in the intervening years which may develop new prints or other forensic evidence that may have been missed in '73.

It is certainly worth the effort, in my belief, since the bike is still available for testing.

smile22
12-11-2005, 03:50 PM
while doing some research i came upon a man named Roland W Slater of Vernon. he was a volunteer firefighter at the time that janice vanished and he was the first one at the scene to respond to the search. futher searching he was charged on attemped kidnaping in 77 while picking up a women needing a ride when he refused to drop her off at her stop she pleaded with him he pulled out a knife she ended up jumping out of his car and spend 6 days in the hospital. he was also on parole from prison where he was serving a one year 3rd degree assault on an attack of a tolland girl. also in 76 he pointed a bb gun to a women he has had prio history of hurting women i wonder if le have ever linked him to janice

Richard
12-11-2005, 08:35 PM
while doing some research i came upon a man named Roland W Slater of Vernon. he was a volunteer firefighter at the time that janice vanished and he was the first one at the scene to respond to the search. futher searching he was charged on attemped kidnaping in 77 while picking up a women needing a ride when he refused to drop her off at her stop she pleaded with him he pulled out a knife she ended up jumping out of his car and spend 6 days in the hospital. he was also on parole from prison where he was serving a one year 3rd degree assault on an attack of a tolland girl. also in 76 he pointed a bb gun to a women he has had prio history of hurting women i wonder if le have ever linked him to janice
Where is he now?

shadowangel
12-11-2005, 09:15 PM
Where is he now?That is the question. I know Smile22 has been asking around, so far with no luck-she even checked with the fire station where he worked, there may be a lead to him there.
If anyone else can come up with a lead as to where this guy might be, your help wil be greatly appreciated.

smile22
12-16-2005, 10:54 AM
ok sent to me was articles some of them had unkown suspects with compsit drawings if anyone wants to see the pictures let me know and i will email them to you here is info i took from the files to post up here alot of them are very promssing.

anibal nick sanabria he was charged by state police with raping a stafford women hitch hiker he had picked up in vernon where he then took her to coventry, he also confessed to other rapes




in dec of 1975 a 17 year old girl was waking down rockvilles union street where a mustached man pulled up and offered her a rid. she refused and continued walking, again the man appeared on foot and said he would give her a ride she refused and he grabbed her. she noticed he had a pistol in his hand she managed to grab away and ran home. he was described as about 5'6 150, neck length brown hair parted on one side to cover his ears

in sept another girl same year was attacked after leaving volunteer work at the local hospital. she had seen a man walking the man came up to her grabbed her from behind and told her not to scream or ill crush you. she struggled free screamed and ran home unharmed. he was described as being 5'6 but stocky dark jacket dark rimed glasses and a dark knitted cap


another attack in november of 75 she was assaulted as she returned to her home one evening the man attaked as she opened the door. she tried to close the door but he got in after a struggle no rape he left. he also had the knitted cap but his description was white male 19-20 slight build with short dark hair and a fuill beard between 5'3 and 5'6 he was wearing a red nylon jacket as well as the cap


even leblanc of holland mass attempted abduction of a 17 yesr old vernon girl i belive the article was written circa 75

the battalion cheif of the rockville fire dept was arresteed on three sex related charges stemming from a 1977 and 1978 inncident involving family. lester waite sr 37 was charged with risk of injury to children and two counts of fourth degree sexual assault. they accurred during the spring of 77 and the summer of 78 they also found a sawed off shotgun in his home during the investigation

smile22
12-26-2005, 10:23 PM
it was brought to my attention from janices sister about another man david Vaicunas of windsor locks ct was looked at as a possible suspect but was never cleared the reason being le looked into him started questioning him to much. he got mad and got a laywer after the police dept it was some sorta of a order where they couldnt ask him any more questions he was also caught trying to grab a girl off her bike in vernon. which again is very close to tolland. he was a driver at the time i think a driving instructor. i did some research on his name i didnt have the correct spelling and me being a quater lithaunian i knew that he was beacuse of the last name. it would be intresting to know if that order has expired the statue of limitations of some kind

smile22
02-14-2006, 02:56 PM
just wanted to let everyone know that their are still no new leads or any suspects i have found as of yet im still working on looking into the last suspect i found out about but im hitting some dead ends and such. as always if anyone is intrested in her case just send over a pm

talelights
02-14-2006, 09:03 PM
just wanted to let everyone know that their are still no new leads or any suspects i have found as of yet im still working on looking into the last suspect i found out about but im hitting some dead ends and such. as always if anyone is intrested in her case just send over a pm
Have you seen the site www.haveyouseenandy.com (http://www.haveyouseenandy.com/) ? There are a couple of suspects mentioned there and the thoughts are they might be linked to this case.

PonderingThings
02-14-2006, 09:16 PM
That website is so sad (the digging photographs especially!)! I wanted to find out more about the documentary and this blurb says it all (almost)



http://www.indiewire.com/movies/2006/02/by_jason_guerra_1.html





"Have You Seen Andy?"

In August 1976, 10-year-old Andy Puglisi vanished while playing at a Lawrence, Massachusetts, public pool. Despite a six-day search Andy was never found and to this day the case is unsolved. Now Andy's friend, Melanie Perkins, who was at the pool on the day of his disappearance, has made a documentary about her missing friend.

"I said to myself as a little girl, 'When I grow up I'm going to try to find him,'" Perkins says as she recalls the horrifying days following Andy's disappearance. After working on documentaries for 15 years, Perkins decided to make her own in 1998. "It had to be something that I felt really strong about," she says. "That's when Andy's case came to mind."

Perkins returned to Lawrence and started looking through Andy's case file. Her research uncovered new information, which motivated the police to re-open the case. As the film retraces the day of Andy's disappearance, Perkins also interviews Andy's parents, the suspects in the case, and follows the police as they investigate new leads. "I had no idea what I was getting myself into," she says as renewed interest in the case brought a Boston Globe and network news stories. But Perkins says her doc is different from their stories. "A lot of times they glorify the suspects, and the victim gets lost," she says. "That's what's different about my film, the victim becomes the important part of the story."

Filming wrapped up this past summer. It was shot on BETA and DV by Stephen McCarthy and is currently being edited by Rachel Clark. The doc was recently picked up by HBO for a 2007 broadcast. But Perkins believes it has theatrical potential and is submitting it to festivals in hopes of distribution.

PonderingThings
02-14-2006, 09:19 PM
About the fingerprint... they recently identified a woman who was murdered almost 30 years ago. Her prints were taken at the time but they didn't get a hit using the manual process that was done then. All the evidence was filed away.

When a cold case detective scanned it into the automated database they got a hit right away and an ID was made.

So... they may have taken fingerprints, but has anyone entered them into today's computer system(s)?

Richard
02-15-2006, 11:04 AM
About the fingerprint... they recently identified a woman who was murdered almost 30 years ago. Her prints were taken at the time but they didn't get a hit using the manual process that was done then. All the evidence was filed away.
When a cold case detective scanned it into the automated database they got a hit right away and an ID was made.
So... they may have taken fingerprints, but has anyone entered them into today's computer system(s)?
Very good point. The same might be said of advances in DNA technology and in photographic recognition computer software. A data base of either, using photos of missing persons, and DNA samples from relatives, might be a significant tool for future resolutions of these cases. This is actually being done on a limited level by the US Military JPAC organization in Hawaii as a means of identifying recoverd remains of American service men lost in action.

smile22
02-15-2006, 01:50 PM
yes i have seen the website and yeas there are alot of suspects one of them who claimed he killled andy and janice but his story didnt hiold true when no bodys were found and his dates were off and i belive everything he mentioned was listed in the news papers and he wqs dying. also im not sure if fingerprints were ever taken from the bike or if any were found or anything you would have to ask sister who is the sister of janice she would know more about the fingerprints and stuff

sister
02-17-2006, 07:08 PM
There were no fingerprints (other than Janice's) found on her bike when it was dusted back in 1973. No evidence at all was ever found at the scene. Of course, it initially was treated as a missing child case with no foul play suspected, and any possible evidence could have been destroyed by the massive search. Thankfully, procedures have changed for missing child situations.
There were/are many suspects in Janice's case, but no solid evidence.

gardenmom
02-17-2006, 09:08 PM
There were no fingerprints (other than Janice's) found on her bike when it was dusted back in 1973. No evidence at all was ever found at the scene. Of course, it initially was treated as a missing child case with no foul play suspected, and any possible evidence could have been destroyed by the massive search. Thankfully, procedures have changed for missing child situations.
There were/are many suspects in Janice's case, but no solid evidence.
Hi Sister, I am sorry you don't have any answers about your sister after all this time. I am curious if your parents are still living? Do they remember anyone trying to befriend Janice before she was taken?

sister
02-20-2006, 10:32 AM
My parents are still alive; however not in the best of health. I recall my mother mentioning one suspect she had, a distant relative; however he was cleared at the time.

smile22
05-27-2006, 08:22 AM
nothing new but i was at my local walmart and on the missing childrens area in the entrance janices poster was their. so its nice to see that they are posting up really old cold cases

smile22
07-08-2006, 03:14 PM
this month on the 26th will mark the 33rd year that she has been missing. not many clues few suspects one of which got mad when le went to question him and got legal people involved who then told le to back off. this suspect said that le was harrasing him and such. could he have known something? could he have been involved? this person is also known in the town he lives in he is involved with the high school and sports among things

smile22
07-26-2006, 03:41 PM
Today is the 33 year that Janice went missing lets all say a prayer for her wherever she is. 33 years and still no answers. she went on a bike ride and probably thought about all the things she was going to do that day or plans she may have had with other children. She went on that bike ride and never came back. its so sad. Im searching for answers for clues things to help find her. ive hit road blocks dead ends someone knows something but why wont they speak up

sister
07-30-2006, 05:21 PM
Another year has gone by and still no answers about my sister. I feel that someone must know something, but is not talking, or maybe doesn't even realize that they hold valuable information. State police were supposed to speak with Nathaniel Bar Jonah in Montana, but that seems to have been stalled.

smile22
08-01-2006, 11:28 PM
have you contacted the state police ask them about it?. tell them you want answers about your sister keep on talking to them pressuring them. If they know that you wont back off they will do something.

smile22
10-19-2006, 05:32 PM
Happy belated 41st birthday janice where ever you are :HappyBday

grievousangel
10-19-2006, 05:55 PM
I live close to Tolland....is there anything I can do?

smile22
01-27-2007, 07:58 AM
bumping for janice that this year we will be closer to or finding the answers we need in her case

grievousangel
01-27-2007, 01:19 PM
As I mentioned earlier, I live near the Tolland/Vernon towns in CT...I am farther east and very close to the university, however, we travel frequently to those towns for shopping, movies etc. Those towns back in the seventies must have been fairly rural or semi rural....small neighborhoods with occasional large acreages devoted to perhaps a dairy farm or corn? ....parts of that area still retain a small town atmosphere but largely it has become one long suburban chain into Hartford. Sister, do you still live in the Tolland area? If so, what was the neighborhood like where you lived back then....Did you live near a major highway where lots of cars would likely be passing by? Does LE believe that your sister was abducted by someone she knew? Were any of your neighbors ever suspected but due to lack of evidence or whatever, never charged? I am not a native of this state but have lived here for a decade....change is coming fast even out where I am but I would have to think that thirty odd yrs ago this entire area from outside Hartford to the univeristy would have been considered ''the boondocks''.

smile22
01-27-2007, 01:41 PM
grievousangel if you go back into the postings there is several suspects listed two of them which is alive who lives near the airport. i did some research on of of them but couldn't find any info on him he is not registered sex offender i believe anything prior to a certain date the crimes are not listed in the registry.


i live closer to Hartford Tolland is about an hr away from me

sister
01-27-2007, 01:44 PM
I currently live about 20 minutes from Tolland. Tolland was definitely the "boondocks" back in the 70's. The road we lived on is very close to interstate 84, which I think was called 86 back then. It would have been very easy for someone to get off the highway and back on again quickly. My sister was taken very close to our house at the beginning of a dirt road. Her bike was found standing up there, pointing in the direction of our house, which makes me think that someone must have lured her off her bike to his car. I know the neighbors were looked at but I don't think there was anything suspicious there. There was a relative (a cousin of my grandfather's I believe) that my mother was suspicious of, but he had an alibi (he was at work). I know there were many suspects that were never officially cleared, and a person of interest (Nathaniel Bar Jonah) has emerged more recently, but due to appeals the police haven't been able to speak with him yet.

grievousangel
01-28-2007, 05:32 PM
The I84 corridor certainly is a busy one....even back then I would imagine. It makes it so much more complicated....so many travellers from Hartford to Providence or Boston on those roads not to mention just the local commerce...has anything more developed on Roland Slater as a suspect? Was he even interviewed? Are all of the items dusted for fingerprints still in possession of LE....none have been ''lost'' have they? I certainly hope that the path is soon open to fully investigating Nathanial Bar Jonah!

ihadcabinfever
01-29-2007, 12:11 AM
Sister, I am very sorry to see your sister Janice has not been found nor someone held responsible for her dissapearance.
I just read everyone's posts and was thinking there may have not been any fingerprints on her bike at all ,if she peddled up to the rock to see the butterfly she may have swung the bike wide t turn around before she parked it. Then she would have gotten off herself and put out her kickstand with her foot and gone over to the rock.
Did your mother think it was a relative ? Maybe someone living nearby that was at the store the same time you were all there . Someone would know Mom would be preoccupied with the groceries when she got home.
I think the truth is closer to town than a ramdom person getting that lucky.

Other than a random stranger my guess would be a grocery store connection , a delivery truck person that was at the store would use the highway and be able to observe the area without looking out of place.
Like the people you look at and know you know them but cant pin point where from.
It's a very long time to wait Sister , I am very sorry you and your parents cant have closure.

smile22
02-03-2007, 10:42 AM
david Vaicunas is another suspect that needs more looking into i did some research into him and found very little and what i did find is posted on the other pages of this thread. is there any veteran sleuthers who have access to more info who might want to look more into him

Sable
02-11-2007, 08:30 PM
I've read some articles about Janice's disappearance. I was wondering... was there a school nearby to where she disappeared, or a school being built in the area?

sister
02-17-2007, 10:22 AM
A school was built a few years ago right at the location where Janice's bike was found.

smile22
02-17-2007, 04:52 PM
if they built the school they would have had to dig up earth to build it and if any bones were present they would have shown up when they dug up the school which leads me to believe the person who took Janice went somewhere else with her body and possibly buried it close by to where her bike was but not in the same location

Richard
02-18-2007, 10:26 AM
if they built the school they would have had to dig up earth to build it and if any bones were present they would have shown up when they dug up the school which leads me to believe the person who took Janice went somewhere else with her body and possibly buried it close by to where her bike was but not in the same location
You are probably correct in thinking that the building of a school would - or should - have uncovered any shallow grave. But I doubt that she would have been killed or buried so close to where she was abducted.

It is difficult to apply normal logic to the actions of someone who would abduct and possibly kill a little girl. But as crazy as they may be, they are usually thinking of self preservation. That is, they don't want to get caught.

The perpetrator would have known that he had only a limited time from the point of abduction, until someone would come looking for Janice. He would most likely have taken her away from the abduction site immediately. The fact that he left her bike for searchers to find, would indicate that he was not concerned about being caught in that area digging a grave.

sister
02-18-2007, 11:13 AM
The police believe Janice was taken somewhere. There was such a massive search when she disappeared that if there were any clues nearby they would have been found.

smile22
02-18-2007, 03:30 PM
so maybe she was taken somewhere away from tolland and then brought back to be buried? but didnt come back untill the search stoped or something just some thoughts

sister
04-15-2007, 02:35 PM
bumping

joellegirl
05-05-2007, 10:17 PM
Bumping for Janice and her sister.

Sister, did you live in a subdivison at the time? Were there ever any neighbors in question? I know the focus is on some known child predators but I wonder if it was some random neighbor or person who knew her through school etc..who lured her. Sorry if this has been covered already. I'm just trying to think of something to keep Janice's story going.

Edited to add :Ok, I see the neighbor thing was pretty much covered but maybe it wouldn't hurt to go over that again. It is just so frustrating. I'm sure all bases have been covered again and again. Thinking of you and your family, sister.

sister
05-07-2007, 01:43 PM
Thank you so much. I know the detective who had Janice's case in the 1980's looked thoroughly at people in the neighborhood. I believe he said there were a couple of suspicious people but they were cleared. I know he also wondered if maybe someone maybe had followed us home from the grocery store that day.

nrob372969
07-10-2007, 07:14 PM
Hi there. I am new to the site. I have been curious about this for years as I grew up in Tolland and probably went to school with her at Meadowbrook. I am six months older than she. I moved to Dallas in the summer of 1973, but saw an article in one of the Hartford papers on the 30th anniversary of her going missing. Ever since I just can't let it go. I have some ideas/feelings and I'm not sure if I'm making it up, or if I really may know something.

sister
07-10-2007, 08:11 PM
Hi - welcome to Websleuths. I am Janice Pockett's sister. I am very interested in hearing your ideas.

nrob372969
07-10-2007, 08:25 PM
I believe I was molested by a neighbor when I lived in Tolland. Everybody said he was my best friend, a grown man. We used to ride bikes together. I am guessing that Janice disappeared very soon after we moved to Dallas. She and I do have similar facial structure, both had shorter brown hair and were the same age. I remember him driving a heating oil truck, so he would be very familiar with the area and wouldn't cause suspicion. She may have recognized him if he had made oil deliveries to your house. I often wonder if he may have happened upon her and was reminded of me. What do you think? Am I making sense?

sister
07-26-2007, 08:12 PM
Bumping for Janice - she disappeared 34 years ago today.

joellegirl
07-26-2007, 09:44 PM
Thinking of Janice on this sad anniversary. Are there any new developments from what the new poster on this thread had to say? I realize you may not be able to talk about it. I'm hoping we will get answers soon, for you and your family's sake.

Richard
07-27-2007, 04:59 PM
I believe I was molested by a neighbor when I lived in Tolland. Everybody said he was my best friend, a grown man. We used to ride bikes together. I am guessing that Janice disappeared very soon after we moved to Dallas. She and I do have similar facial structure, both had shorter brown hair and were the same age. I remember him driving a heating oil truck, so he would be very familiar with the area and wouldn't cause suspicion. She may have recognized him if he had made oil deliveries to your house. I often wonder if he may have happened upon her and was reminded of me. What do you think? Am I making sense?

I suggest that you contact the Law Enforcement Authorities in charge of this case with your information. It could be a viable lead for them.

smile22
12-10-2007, 04:44 PM
bumping for Janice still no new leads or any new news

sister
12-23-2007, 04:41 PM
A remote viewing was recently completed on BriansPrediction.com (missing persons section, case #560). If someone could post a link I'd appreciate it (I don't know how to do it!).
I'm not sure what I think about it, but it's interesting.

smile22
12-23-2007, 07:51 PM
A remote viewing was recently completed on BriansPrediction.com (missing persons section, case #560). If someone could post a link I'd appreciate it (I don't know how to do it!).
I'm not sure what I think about it, but it's interesting.

here is the link i was the one who sent him the info to do the RV i had heard he had predicted some stuff about other missing persons and thought he might be able to help if you think this might be worth looking into contact tolland pd to see if they have heard of him he might have some info worth looking into
http://www.briansdreams.com/MISSING/publicr/560.htm

that should pull up her rv

sister
12-23-2007, 09:29 PM
Thanks for the link, Smile.
Has this person (Brian) actually helped solve missing persons cases or homicides before?
I don't know if any of this info is important or not. I know that Janice did not have any 13-year old male friends; however there were teenage boys in our neighborhood. There were some that used to get into some trouble too, but I don't know how serious.
I don't think a teenager could manage to dispose of a body without some help.
Does anyone else have any thoughts?

smile22
12-24-2007, 06:15 AM
i am not sure if he has but i know some of the things in his dreams were real shawn hornbreck i think thats how u spell it was taken from his home a few years ago he was recently found alive a few months ago the guy that kidnapped him just a few months ago took another child they both were found safe Brian had did an rv on them and some of the stuff was true

sister
01-11-2008, 07:16 PM
Bumping for Janice. Wondering if nrob has anything to report........

smile22
01-12-2008, 09:11 AM
i wanted to contact le with brians findings but i am afraid they might just pay no attention to the email. i was in Tolland back in September we had to go to this used car repair junk lot place i cannot think of the name of it. we had to clean out my dads jeep that had been totaled when my brother was riding it home from boston. what i noticed from what little i saw was that it is very woody areas. i wish we would have had more time as i would have liked to explore more of tolland and the area she went missing

KarlK
01-17-2008, 10:59 PM
i wanted to contact le with brians findings but i am afraid they might just pay no attention to the email.

Probably rightly so. It appears that Brian genuinely believes in his visions but the state of mind he describes is not that uncommon. It's called hypnagogia or hypnagogic state and occurs during the transitional stage between sleep and wake when the body is already "asleep" (muscle tonus no longer maintained by the brain) but the brain is still aware of its surroundings. In most people this stage lasts but a few seconds and is not recorded by the memory but in a relatively high number of individuals it can last many minutes especially once they learn to exercise some form of control over it.

It relates to lucid dreaming, a dream in which the dreamer is aware that he or she is dreaming and is able to 'direct' their dream to a certain degree. In this state the subject is very vulnerable to auto-suggestion because the brain areas that control judgment and logic, which usually filter sensory input, are dormant. But the 'visions' one experiences in that state are built from material already in the brain, they don't just come from the outside using 'psychic channels'. What I think happened in the present case is that Brian 'saw' a scenario that could have reflected what he believed could have happened, but wasn't aware that he had this theory floating around in his head.

The woods, cardboard box, teenage boy abducting little girl, etc. sounded vaguely familiar to me, as if I had seen something similar in a movie or book but just couldn't remember the details. I think this is what may have happened with Brian. That said the scenario shouldn't be discarded because Brian's 'vision' came from something unrelated he's seen or heard of, which at least indicates that it's statistically possible things may have gone down in a manner similar to what he describes. True, teenagers rarely get away with a serious crime because they lack foresight and knowledge of investigative work (they don't know how police investigate crimes, while experienced adult criminals often do to varying degrees), but even teens sometime evade detection by sheer luck or because of a misdirected investigation where LE locks on one type of suspect exclusively, in this case suspected adult child molesters.

Idaho4Groenes
01-21-2008, 12:06 AM
Kind of pulling things from different areas together here. "Brian" had a vision that she was taken to the woods by a 13 year old boy. The Charley Project lists Nathaniel Bar-Jonah as a possible suspect in her case. He would have been 14 at the time but was in the area and had a violent past. I'm not saying that this means anything, just kind of trying to pull things together a little bit.

angelbythec
01-30-2008, 01:35 AM
Sister I am a psychic medium who received information from Janice quite some time ago, please email me at

angelbythec@aol.com
I would like to share this with you but I do not make it to the boards often.

sister
03-04-2008, 11:11 AM
Just trying to keep things on the front page.......

UMfanforever
04-28-2008, 10:19 AM
I just read on The Charley Project:

"Bar-Jonah was never charged in connection with any of the other disappearances. He died of a blood clot in a Montana prison in April 2008, at age 51."

UMfanforever
04-28-2008, 10:25 AM
Accused Cannibal Dies in Mont. Prison

Apr 13, 2008
DEER LODGE, Mont. (AP) — A convicted sex offender who was once accused of killing and cannibalizing a boy was found dead in his cell Sunday at the Montana State Prison.
Nathaniel Bar-Jonah was found unresponsive early Sunday, said prison spokeswoman Linda Moodry. His cause of death is unknown, though he had been in poor health. An autopsy is planned, and an investigation is underway.
He was serving a 130-year sentence for kidnapping, sexually assaulting and choking a teenage neighbor. Authorities had also charged him with murder in the 1996 disappearance of 10-year-old Zach Ramsay.
Authorities said they had evidence suggesting Bar-Jonah butchered the boy and disposed of his body in meals served to neighbors.
Prosecutors were forced to dismiss the murder charge in 2002, when Bar-Jonah was 45, after Ramsay's mother said she would testify she believed her son was still alive.
Bar-Jonah moved to Montana after facing legal trouble in Massachusetts, where he pleaded guilty in 1977 to posing as a police officer and kidnapping two boys.
A later plea deal in another case allowed Bar-Jonah to move to Montana with his family.

sister
04-29-2008, 09:20 PM
This is the first I've heard of this. Thanks for the post.

sister
05-06-2008, 02:21 PM
State police were planning on questioning Bar Jonah once given clearance by the FBI. Since this is no longer possible, they plan on gaining access to any notes, etc. he may have left behind.
Can't say I'm sorry he's dead, but I wish they could have spoken with him.

believe09
05-13-2008, 06:40 PM
Sister, I am so very,very sorry for this tragedy-I have been catching up on the chance that there was something to be gained from a disappearance in my own family-a 13 year old girl who was on a bike and taken in the 70's.

if anyone can answer this I would appreciate it; why would there be a belief that this perp (Bar Jonah) had crossed over to girls...was he ever linked with females in the past?? Or started with girls and moved to boys...

sister
05-13-2008, 09:48 PM
In 1974 a 9-year old girl in CT was grabbed by a man as she was walking home. He told her her mother wanted her home and that he would take her there. He knocked her over the head, but she screamed so much that he panicked and pushed her out of his car. This happened approximately 20 miles from where Janice disappeared, almost 2 years later. Apparently when all the news about Bar Jonah hit the papers in CT in the early 2000's, this girl/woman saw his picture in the paper and swears it is the man who tried to abduct her. Bar Jonah would have been around 17 at the time, but he was heavy set and probably looked older. I think CT detectives feel that at such a young age he may not have finalized his preference yet? Also, at age 6 Bar Jonah choked a female classmate, so he was capable of anything I guess.

believe09
05-14-2008, 08:48 AM
In 1974 a 9-year old girl in CT was grabbed by a man as she was walking home. He told her her mother wanted her home and that he would take her there. He knocked her over the head, but she screamed so much that he panicked and pushed her out of his car. This happened approximately 20 miles from where Janice disappeared, almost 2 years later. Apparently when all the news about Bar Jonah hit the papers in CT in the early 2000's, this girl/woman saw his picture in the paper and swears it is the man who tried to abduct her. Bar Jonah would have been around 17 at the time, but he was heavy set and probably looked older. I think CT detectives feel that at such a young age he may not have finalized his preference yet? Also, at age 6 Bar Jonah choked a female classmate, so he was capable of anything I guess.

I appreciate your answer-thank you. There has to be some stuff on the books for this man then; some interviews with some history that might be helpful.

believe09
05-15-2008, 10:26 AM
David brown, AKA Nathaniel Levi Bar -Jonah was born 2/15/1957. Everything I have read has to do with boys, although I do not discount the girls account. But, when I was that age I had a pixie, was skinny as a rail and used to wear my brother's hand me downs...I wonder if there was a chance she looked like a boy???

bugaboo
05-15-2008, 03:24 PM
Just wanted to chime in. This case has always bothered me, since I am a CT native. My mother remembers my Grandmother being scared that we lived in Tolland when I was young. This was around 1980-83, I think. We lived at an apartment complex just off the main road. There was still not a lot of development going on then. Seemed very remote even then.

Masterj
05-15-2008, 07:11 PM
Just wanted to chime in. This case has always bothered me, since I am a CT native. My mother remembers my Grandmother being scared that we lived in Tolland when I was young. This was around 1980-83, I think. We lived at an apartment complex just off the main road. There was still not a lot of development going on then. Seemed very remote even then.

It always bothered me too. I am from CT and played sports against Tolland as we were in the same conference. I always that of Janice whenever we traveled there.

gettingclear
05-21-2008, 10:46 AM
I grew up in Tolland and know someone who lived in this neighborhood around the time of Janice's disappearance. I've read through the posts, and am wondering if anyone knows which neighbors have at any time been considered suspects, and also if anyone knows how one might reach/email one of the phsycics that have posted here and have info...specifically about the blue van? Thanks.

believe09
05-21-2008, 06:09 PM
I grew up in Tolland and know someone who lived in this neighborhood around the time of Janice's disappearance. I've read through the posts, and am wondering if anyone knows which neighbors have at any time been considered suspects, and also if anyone knows how one might reach/email one of the phsycics that have posted here and have info...specifically about the blue van? Thanks.

Welcome, getting clear. If you have a specific question or hunch you would like to discuss, this is a good place to hash some of that out. You can also click on anyone of our names and PM (private message) that individual, so if there is a specific poster that seems to be able to direct you, feel free to do that. :)

talelights
06-03-2008, 11:20 PM
I once spoke to a women, who as a young girl lived near Bethany, Ct said she and her sister were stalked by a man when they wrote their bikes. Once, he tried to get her off her bike, she was scared and dropped the bike and ran home through the woods. Her father reported it, but she and her sister often wonder because they lived on a dirt road that went, I think down towards New Haven, it's still rural.

I don't know if this area has ever been checked, today it would take a cadave dog to bring any information to light, as it was so long ago. But you never know.

sister
07-04-2008, 10:48 AM
35th anniversary of Janice's disappearance is coming up this month.

smile22
07-12-2008, 12:16 PM
bumping for janice hoping that this year we may have some answers and if not that they may come soon

sister
07-26-2008, 11:18 AM
Just want to bring Janice's case to the front page. She disappeared 35 years ago today.

joellegirl
07-26-2008, 12:15 PM
Thinking of Janice.....she is one of the top cases I think about often. Sister, please keep on posting, and know that we care. I just wish I could think of something that could help.

smile22
07-27-2008, 10:52 AM
i tried getting on yesterday but the ws was down and was thinking of her. i wish we had more leads or something that would spike up the new person assigned to her case.

nrob372969
08-14-2008, 01:10 PM
Hi Smile22,

Could you please tell me where you were at this auto junk yard? What street was it on? I lived in Tolland and there is a junk yard near where I lived.



i wanted to contact le with brians findings but i
am afraid they might just pay no attention to the email. i was in Tolland back in September we had to go to this used car repair junk lot place i cannot think of the name of it. we had to clean out my dads jeep that had been totaled when my brother was riding it home from boston. what i noticed from what little i saw was that it is very woody areas. i wish we would have had more time as i would have liked to explore more of tolland and the area she went missing

smile22
08-14-2008, 09:03 PM
i am not sure i think it was called bills junk yard or something family owned for years i belive they get cars that have been in car accidents and i belive they may even fix cars 2

nrob372969
08-15-2008, 01:45 PM
Could you try to find out the address? I think it may be important.

shadowangel
08-15-2008, 04:26 PM
I found this....

http://bills-autoparts.com/ The address is in Tolland.

iNTERESTEDWOMAN
08-15-2008, 06:42 PM
I've read about Janice Pocket's disappearance several times over the years, but this is my first post on her thread.

The big thing that has always bothered me, and seems to have never been discussed is the location of her bike. According to the doenetwork:
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/85dfct.html

Pockett left her family's home to take a bicycle ride at 3 p.m. on July 26, 1973. The girl told her mother she was going to get a butterfly she had left under a rock in a wooded area on Rhodes road. Her bike was found six days later on Rhoades Road, near her home, close to a wooded area.



Bolding mine.

Why did it take SIX days to find her bike? It was parked on the road she said she was going to be on, near her home, by the woods. When she didn't come home, didn't anyone go look for her? Seems to me it should have been found immediately, that day, within a few hours. Did the bike all of a sudden appear there. Did the abductor bring it back after 6 days?

Just so weird. If my daughter told me she was going to go get something in a general location, and didn't come home, after awhile I would go look in the general location she said she was headed to.

joellegirl
08-16-2008, 12:27 AM
I think the "six days later" on the Doe Network may be a mistake. The Charley Project mentions the bike was found later the day she went missing. Janice's sister posts often on this thread and mentioned her memories of that day(go back to page two or so of this thread). It was the first time Janice's mother let her go off by herself, and the sister remembers walking with her mother looking for Janice and finding the bike. Hopefully her sister will pop in here again soon and can give better details, but again, maybe the Doe Network has the timeline wrong.

smile22
08-16-2008, 10:03 PM
I found this....

http://bills-autoparts.com/ The address is in Tolland.



yes that was the place they have this et looking/ robot statue in the front of the building i wish i had taken a picture it was an interesting thing. this was the only part of tolland i was in and it was woody from what i saw i wish i had the chance to have ventured more into tolland and got to see more of the town

sister
08-17-2008, 12:08 PM
That is a mistake. Janice's bike was found by my mother (and I) when she went looking for Janice when she didn't come home. It was found on Rhodes Road, right near where it intersects with Anthony Road. Back in 1973 Rhodes Road was a dirt road. Now there is a school right there at that intersection.
nrob - why do you think the junkyard might be important? I am really interested in what you have to say......

sister
08-17-2008, 12:18 PM
smile22 - the junkyard you were at is about 2 or 2 1/2 miles from where Janice disappeared. It's very near to where we used to live.

nrob372969
08-21-2008, 12:46 PM
Yes, it's near where I used to live too. I have to do some more research and will come back.

sister
08-31-2008, 12:25 PM
I am interested in hearing any thoughts on this junkyard, especially because of it's proximity to where Janice disappeared.........

sister
09-19-2008, 09:00 PM
bumping to the front page......

sister
09-26-2008, 03:45 PM
nothing new to report - I just want to keep Janice on the "front page"...............

believe09
09-27-2008, 11:11 AM
Bless you sister-this perseverance has to pay off someday.

UMfanforever
10-05-2008, 05:56 AM
yep, wishing you some closure some day, "sister".did you ever contact that psychic medium person (who posted earlier in the thread)

sister
10-12-2008, 04:35 PM
Thanks to everyone.
I have been in contact with the psychic. Also, there is some new information that is being looked into; we'll wee if it leads anywhere........

sister
11-08-2008, 12:57 PM
Just bumping Janice to the front page.....................
Hoping to have some new information soon.

smile22
11-08-2008, 10:40 PM
i was in tolland the other day on my way to a uccon game. i didnt realise how dark it gets out there with very little street lights and such we were on this busy road and i saw the sign that said rhodes road i was like omg. i noticed that a lot of the houses are farther back and are sorrounded by woods and lots of them. i think we even passed a marsh or some kind of watery area like swampy