Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 5

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[Thrs0806]

Just here to say a prayer for Madeleine! :)

[Jdee]

Worth repeating....

From: http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/

"Mrs. Gill Renwick, a family friend, told BBC the McCanns, who had been holidaying with three other British families..."

Who are these "families?" Where are these "families"? Why have we not seen nothing of them? Where's the interview of the one member of the 'group' that saw the man carrying a child away in a 'blanket'? How long did it take this 'friend' to come forward with this? If she saw this then why was it an hour before the LE were called?

Questions, questions, questions and NO answers!:furious:

[Spazkat9696]

Sadly I think he has a better chance of getting his wallet back over Maddie. Somethings can never be replaced you would think after having his child taken he would be better at keeping track of his things.

[Jdee]

Sadly I think he has a better chance of getting his wallet back over Maddie. Somethings can never be replaced you would think after having his child taken he would be better at keeping track of his things.

No kiddin.. so you have to wonder here.. was that wallet REALLY stolen? Or just a PR stunt?:waitasec:

[MoonGoddess]

No kiddin.. so you have to wonder here.. was that wallet REALLY stolen? Or just a PR stunt?:waitasec:

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/06/20/europe/EU-GEN-Britain-Missing-Girl.php

"It contained precious photographs which have now been lost forever," the newspaper quoted McCann's mother-in-law Susan Healey as saying.

London police said they had no record of the theft being reported to officers.

:waitasec::waitasec:

[MoonGoddess]

Worth repeating....

From: http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/

"Mrs. Gill Renwick, a family friend, told BBC the McCanns, who had been holidaying with three other British families..."

Who are these "families?" Where are these "families"? Why have we not seen nothing of them? Where's the interview of the one member of the 'group' that saw the man carrying a child away in a 'blanket'? How long did it take this 'friend' to come forward with this? If she saw this then why was it an hour before the LE were called?

Questions, questions, questions and NO answers!:furious:

The investigative journo at that site has:-

http://gazetadigitalmadeleineandthemedia.blogspot.com/2007/06/time-for-questions-answers-i.html

"Time for “Questions & Answers” (I) (http://gazetadigitalmadeleineandthemedia.blogspot.com/2007/06/time-for-questions-answers-i.html) "

I emailed him two days ago to ask:- "do you know that last time that anyone apart from the McCanns last saw Madeleine alive?...."

I live in hope that he may find time to answer, he must be busy investigating other lines of enquiry to the one I would like explored :banghead:

you guys may find this interesting:-

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/dtracey/june_2007/clarence_mitchell_the_mccann_press_officer_is_a_go .htm

Clarence Mitchell the Mccann press officer is a government official hence the media blackout. (http://my.telegraph.co.uk/dtracey/june_2007/clarence_mitchell_the_mccann_press_officer_is_a_go .htm)

Posted by dtracey at 19:25 on 19 Jun 2007

Clarence Mitchell, the so called Mccann press officer is the director of the Government's Media Monitoring Unit. is the reason behind the Media Gag, a government official on loan as a spin doctor to the Mccanns, gagging the social services. The British taxpayer is paying for a media consultant to a private company with no charitable status. He is currently on secondment to the Foreign Office for the purpose of looking after the McCanns. We are all being led a song and dance, told poor Mccanns, we cant hurt thier feelings. What about the twins, they have been left alone and are still in the hands of these uncaring parents. See this link for more: http://forums.mirror.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=657 and start bombarding our government, even if you dont wish to donate a penny to the Mccanns _ WE ALL BLOODY ARE ....ARRRGGGHHH

some interesting comments in response....gives us a clue to the lack of information.....but why the :silenced:....:banghead:

[colomom]

No kiddin.. so you have to wonder here.. was that wallet REALLY stolen? Or just a PR stunt?:waitasec:

From: http://findmadeleine.com/

Latest Update - Gerry's Blog/Diary
Day 48 - 20/06/2007
Another busy day of meetings this time in Leicester. No mishaps thankfully. The main meeting was that of Maddeleines fund where we discussed implementing a strategy to maintain our campaign to find Madeleine.

Maybe there are 2 Gerry McCanns?????
:waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec:

[CarpeDiem]

Maybe there are 2 Gerry McCanns?????
:waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec:

BAHAHAAA! Yeah, and their names are Dumb and Dumber.

[Spazkat9696]

BAHAHAAA! Yeah, and their names are Dumb and Dumber.
Good One:woohoo: :woohoo:

[Thrs0806]

From: http://findmadeleine.com/

Latest Update - Gerry's Blog/Diary
Day 48 - 20/06/2007
Another busy day of meetings this time in Leicester. No mishaps thankfully. The main meeting was that of Maddeleines fund where we discussed implementing a strategy to maintain our campaign to find Madeleine.

Maybe there are 2 Gerry McCanns?????
:waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec: :waitasec:

I guess his press agent doesn't proof his blog for him or he would have reminded him of the priceless pictures he lost yesterday!!!!! :slap:

[Jdee]

Sadly I think he has a better chance of getting his wallet back over Maddie. Somethings can never be replaced you would think after having his child taken he would be better at keeping track of his things.

BAHAHAAA! Yeah, and their names are Dumb and Dumber.

Yeah and on is 37 and one is 47 (according to that one article)! :D

[MoonGoddess]

I guess his press agent doesn't proof his blog for him or he would have reminded him of the priceless pictures he lost yesterday!!!!! :slap:


Latest Update - Gerry's Blog/Diary

Day 48 - 20/06/2007

Another busy day of meetings this time in Leicester. No mishaps thankfully.The main meeting was that of Maddeleines fund where we discussed implementing a strategy to ///////////

and spell his precious daughters name right!!:banghead:

[Jdee]

Latest Update - Gerry's Blog/Diary

Day 48 - 20/06/2007

Another busy day of meetings this time in Leicester. No mishaps thankfully.The main meeting was that of Maddeleines fund where we discussed implementing a strategy to ///////////

and spell his precious daughters name right!!:banghead:

hmmm me thinka he is not writing his own blog....:rolleyes:

[MoonGoddess]

hmmm me thinka he is not writing his own blog....:rolleyes:

This blog by a hard hitting Australian is worth a look and is asking the same questions as most would like answers to, also found it offensive that he couldn't even spell his daughters name correctly:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann
McCann, could you at least try to get your daughter's name right? Yet again on your damage control and revenue raising website, you have her name wrong. You never get the twins names wrong - only Madeleine's. Do you know how offensive it is to others to see the name of a tiny missing girl, continuously spelt incorrectly - especially when it's by the girl's own father?

First you lose your daughter, then you lose her photographs, then you repeatedly get her name wrong. What sort of a father are you for God's sake?



Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Six Questions for the McCanns (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/06/six-questions-for-mccanns.html)

[CaliKid]

Check this out! http://my.telegraph.co.uk/dtracey/june_2007/clarence_mitchell_the_mccann_press_officer_is_a_go .htm

Go down to the 5th comment. Okay, seeing as it's someone posting on the blog, maybe we should take this with a grain of salt. But why would Gerry McCann be comparing losing his daughter with overspending on his student loans?

[CaliKid]

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann
McCann, could you at least try to get your daughter's name right? Yet again on your damage control and revenue raising website, you have her name wrong. You never get the twins names wrong - only Madeleine's. Do you know how offensive it is to others to see the name of a tiny missing girl, continuously spelt incorrectly - especially when it's by the girl's own father?

First you lose your daughter, then you lose her photographs, then you repeatedly get her name wrong. What sort of a father are you for God's sake?



Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Geez, is this father for real?

It sounds as if the McCanns have achieve cult status in the UK. Apparently nobody is allowed to question their behavior. This is sick.

[Jdee]

Latest Update - Gerry's Blog/Diary

Day 48 - 20/06/2007

Another busy day of meetings this time in Leicester. No mishaps thankfully.The main meeting was that of Maddeleines fund where we discussed implementing a strategy to ///////////

and spell his precious daughters name right!!:banghead:

Check this out! http://my.telegraph.co.uk/dtracey/june_2007/clarence_mitchell_the_mccann_press_officer_is_a_go .htm

Go down to the 5th comment. Okay, seeing as it's someone posting on the blog, maybe we should take this with a grain of salt. But why would Gerry McCann be comparing losing his daughter with overspending on his student loans?

WOW! I read it all and the one post you mentioned brings up the 800+K they have sitting in the bank.

[MoonGoddess]

Geez, is this father for real?

It sounds as if the McCanns have achieve cult status in the UK. Apparently nobody is allowed to question their behavior. This is sick.

A lot of questions being asked in Forums in the UK as to just why does there appear to be a media blackout....they are trying to achieve cult status I think but I am sensing the tide is turning....or maybe wishful thinking, I think their every move is being analysed by some suspicious UK public, I dont believe they can go on avoiding the inevitable questions.

[RoughlyCollie]

And that's in pounds! According to the currency converter I used, that is over $1,500,000 US.

WOW! I read it all and the one post you mentioned brings up the 800+K they have sitting in the bank.

[CaliKid]

It's the people outside of the UK who seem to be able to put 2 and 2 together, and sooner or later the truth WILL come out. The more I know, the more I question. Nothing like getting rich off your missing child.

[colomom]

First, these server crashes are getting very annoying!

Second, did you see this?

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2007280877,00.html

Arab said: ‘Get up, little girl’
"The sighting is one of FIVE independent reports by witnesses convinced they have seen kidnapped Maddie, four, in Malta."

Please pray extra hard websleuths and hope to God that the police in Malta are doing a very good job of searching. Better than some people I knowhttp://smileydatabase.com/s/153.gif

I just wish that if people see a little girl, feel that something was just not right, had suspicions, that they would stop the people and ask to look into her eyes. A legitimate parent/caretaker would be understanding and allow it considering the current circumstances.

http://smileydatabase.com/s/130.gif Love you Maddie!!!

[colomom]

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/10779/I

One more reason to pray.....

[Salem]

My goodness - but it is hard to get on the site lately.

Anyway - I read the comments on the link originally posted by Calikid. Do you think Mr. McCann was some big wig's cardiologist? Is that why they are getting special treatement?

[Bobbisangel]

Sadly I think he has a better chance of getting his wallet back over Maddie. Somethings can never be replaced you would think after having his child taken he would be better at keeping track of his things.



Have you ever had a child missing or murdered? You are actually lucky if you can remember to change out of your night clothes before leaving the house if you have to go somewhere. Your mind is in a fog and you are lucky if you remember your own name. These parents minds are not working like they normally would be. Their daughter is missing and that is where their focus is.
Everything else is just a big blur.

[Bobbisangel]

This blog by a hard hitting Australian is worth a look and is asking the same questions as most would like answers to, also found it offensive that he couldn't even spell his daughters name correctly:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann
McCann, could you at least try to get your daughter's name right? Yet again on your damage control and revenue raising website, you have her name wrong. You never get the twins names wrong - only Madeleine's. Do you know how offensive it is to others to see the name of a tiny missing girl, continuously spelt incorrectly - especially when it's by the girl's own father?

First you lose your daughter, then you lose her photographs, then you repeatedly get her name wrong. What sort of a father are you for God's sake?



Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Six Questions for the McCanns (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/06/six-questions-for-mccanns.html)



Isn't it possible that the father is spelling his daughter's name right and the press has been spelling it wrong all of this time. After all, it is his daughter and I would think if anyone knows how to spell her name it would be her parents.

[Bobbisangel]

Latest Update - Gerry's Blog/Diary

Day 48 - 20/06/2007

Another busy day of meetings this time in Leicester. No mishaps thankfully.The main meeting was that of Maddeleines fund where we discussed implementing a strategy to ///////////

and spell his precious daughters name right!!:banghead:



There is the possibility that that spelling of her name is the correct one. Maybe the media has been spelling it wrong all of this time. I would think that the parents would know how to spell her name if anyone would.

[dingo]

Thankfully Bobbisangel I have never had a child go missing....but to a lot of posters here it seems that the parents minds werent working normally before Maddeleines dissappearence.

[CaliKid]

If we have gone 7 weeks misspelling Mad(d)eleine's name, what can I say? I know they have more important things to think about, but wouldn't someone in the family (extended- such as aunts and uncles) correct the media?

But more importantly, this is absolutely marvelous news about her. Did I read this right- 5 spottings in the past week? Please, oh please Malta police, move in and find this child.

[Shazza]

If we have gone 7 weeks misspelling Mad(d)eleine's name, what can I say? I know they have more important things to think about, but wouldn't someone in the family (extended- such as aunts and uncles) correct the media?

But more importantly, this is absolutely marvelous news about her. Did I read this right- 5 spottings in the past week? Please, oh please Malta police, move in and find this child.
I just got in from work and the news was on and there was something mentioned about Madelaine, but missed it, can someone please give me an update.

[MoonGoddess]

I just got in from work and the news was on and there was something mentioned about Madelaine, but missed it, can someone please give me an update.

Hi Shazza,

All I can see is re the 'sightings' in Malta and the release of the balloons to mark the 50th day...

The Australian Blogger is running with this......been updated today:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/...leine%20McCann (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/...leine%20McCann)

sorry this is rushed.....am dashing to work....

:)

[Shazza]

Hi Shazza,

All I can see is re the 'sightings' in Malta and the release of the balloons to mark the 50th day...

The Australian Blogger is running with this......been updated today:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/...leine%20McCann (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/...leine%20McCann)

sorry this is rushed.....am dashing to work....

:)
Thanks MoonGoddess, could not access link, I knew that 50 countries were releasing balloons for the 50th Day, but didnt know about the sightings in Malta, it sounds like there were quite a few sightings, fingers crossed that there is some truth to this and it will lead the LE to Madelaine alive.

[MoonGoddess]

Thanks MoonGoddess, could not access link, I knew that 50 countries were releasing balloons for the 50th Day, but didnt know about the sightings in Malta, it sounds like there were quite a few sightings, fingers crossed that there is some truth to this and it will lead the LE to Madelaine alive.

Try this Shazza:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann)

interesting reading.....and comments!!

P.S. just tried it and it worked....if not, I'll find another way in....this guy is saying what a lot are thinking....some consider it harsh but IMAO it needs saying.....

[petra]

Sky news articles

http://news.sky.com/skynews/madeleine

[petra]

Hopefully,the possible sightings of Madeleine in Malta will prove to be true!
Good thing is not many places to go from Malta--unless prviate boat or plane. Need to take public transport otherwise-to get to Gozo or Sicily or flew elsewhere. Hopefully all checkpoints have been alerted.

Forgot to mention there was a possible sighting of Madeleine here in BsAs last week. Taken very, very seriously. 100 police-special units responded. Turned out to be a six year old Danish girl on holiday with parents.

[petra]

About missing children in UK-"More chance of finding a Stray Dog"

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1271653,00.html

[petra]

Try this Shazza:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann

interesting reading.....and comments!!

P.S. just tried it and it worked....if not, I'll find another way in....this guy is saying what a lot are thinking....some consider it harsh but IMAO it needs saying.....


Thanks for the link MG.

A snippet from the blog...........
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"Her parents Kate and Gerry have been searching for their daughter ever since she went missing. The girl's parents have searched for her in Morocco as well as Portugal."

No they haven't. They haven't searched for her anywhere.

What they have done is travelled around Europe in a private jet, met the Pope, political dignitaries, city officials (none of whom are in a position to offer much in the way of practical assistance) and giving media conferences that they are happy to attend - as long as they are not asked awkward questions. Gerry McCann has attended what the family describe as "business meetings" and the mother has suddenly gone quiet.

They haven't searched - they have travelled from one comfy chair to another.

What they have not done, is what other parents of missing children have done - and in many cases continue to do.

They have not tramped the streets of cities or areas where their daughter may possibly be, armed with photographs of their daughter in the hope that a personal approach may jog someone's memory or even conscience.

Morocco is a major gateway for child trafficking. They did not tour the markets, side streets and sordid clubs asking, "Have you seen this little girl?" In fact, they left Morocco until last on their whirlwind tour of Europe. They also left Amsterdam until the end of their trip. Amsterdam is rife with child sex and also a major gateway for child trafficking. The McCanns should know that as they lived there with Madeleine.

Why did they not tour the streets, clubs and bars? I agree, that even if they...........................SNIP

[petra]

More from Sky News on other missing children in UK===slide show

http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/0,,70141-1271560,00.html

[CaliKid]

Thanks for the link MG.

A snippet from the blog...........
====================================

"Her parents Kate and Gerry have been searching for their daughter ever since she went missing. The girl's parents have searched for her in Morocco as well as Portugal."

No they haven't. They haven't searched for her anywhere.

This person is 100% right. The McCanns jet in and out of the cities on press junkets, but in reality they're getting little done to find Madeleine other than keep her name in the news. With all the money they're getting from the fund, it surprises me why they don't print up posters with her picture on it and spend a little extra time distributing them in airports and shops.

[Jdee]

This person is 100% right. The McCanns jet in and out of the cities on press junkets, but in reality they're getting little done to find Madeleine other than keep her name in the news. With all the money they're getting from the fund, it surprises me why they don't print up posters with her picture on it and spend a little extra time distributing them in airports and shops.

Or do mass mailings. Or buy TV air time. Or take out full page ads in papers around the world, or pay volunteers to go door to door if they don't want to. Maybe they are just getting their ducks in a row but sure is taking a long time and in the mean time poor Madeleine is out there lost.

[MoonGoddess]

Hi Everyone :blowkiss:,

Am loving that Aussie blogger-he doesn't mince his words does he....really hope he doesn't get :silenced:

and why aren't the parents in Malta? instead of letting off fricking balloons and doves :banghead:

[JanetElaine]

This blog by a hard hitting Australian is worth a look and is asking the same questions as most would like answers to, also found it offensive that he couldn't even spell his daughters name correctly:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann)
McCann, could you at least try to get your daughter's name right? Yet again on your damage control and revenue raising website, you have her name wrong. You never get the twins names wrong - only Madeleine's. Do you know how offensive it is to others to see the name of a tiny missing girl, continuously spelt incorrectly - especially when it's by the girl's own father?

First you lose your daughter, then you lose her photographs, then you repeatedly get her name wrong. What sort of a father are you for God's sake?



Tuesday, June 19, 2007

Six Questions for the McCanns (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/06/six-questions-for-mccanns.html)

I think this blogger is just being a jerk as far as this name thing goes. The name 'Madeleine' is on the website, and in that particular part at least 10 or 15 times, then on one occasion Gerry spells it Maddeleine... maybe he was typing Maddie but then decides to get back to the full Madeleine as used everywhere on their site, and left the extra 'd' accidentally. This is the same piece of text where Gerry spells 'committemnt'. I think a little bit of paranoia is setting in for some people who really have nothing to do with this case at all.

[Jdee]

.. maybe he was typing Maddie but then decides to get back to the full Madeleine as used everywhere on their site, and left the extra 'd' accidentally. This is the same piece of text where Gerry spells 'committemnt'. I think a little bit of paranoia is setting in for some people who really have nothing to do with this case at all.

Early in the case one news media person in an intereview referred to Madeleine as 'Maddie'.. and the McCann's were very quick to correct them saying it is NOT Maddie... it is 'Madeleine'.

[MoonGoddess]

Early in the case one news media person in an intereview referred to Madeleine as 'Maddie'.. and the McCann's were very quick to correct them saying it is NOT Maddie... it is 'Madeleine'.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2093570,00.html

It was made known to reporters that the family wanted their daughter to be referred to as Madeleine rather than the tabloid-coined Maddy.

[CaliKid]

From the way the blogger writes, it sounds as if GM has gotten the spelling of Madeleine's name wrong more than once.

Hi Everyone :blowkiss:,

Am loving that Aussie blogger-he doesn't mince his words does he....really hope he doesn't get :silenced:

and why aren't the parents in Malta? instead of letting off fricking balloons and doves :banghead:

Excellent question, MG. That is where I'd be today if I learned my daughter was sighted there five times in the past week.

or pay volunteers to go door to door if they don't want to.

Hire a bunch of teenagers, give each of them 100 flyers and send them door-to-door in Malta with Madeleine's picture and notice of the reward. If that little girl is there, someone knows it and maybe promise of money would loosen some tongues.

[SieSie]

The McCanns also asked newspapers and TV stations to stop using pictures of their other two children, two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, to protect their privacy.

They said their campaign to find Madeleine would now become "event-driven" with the aim of putting her image at the front of people's minds.

Source: Sky News (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1271728,00.html)

They've been out there practically doing photoshoots with their young twins when they should've been more concerned with keeping Maddie's picture out there from the get-go. It makes sense to worry about the twins pictures being in the media, but they're the ones who seemed to be into the photo-ops!

[CaliKid]

And if sightings of Madeleine in Malta isn't an event, I don't know what is. These two parents need to get off their duffs and start actually doing something to find their little girl.

[Jdee]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,,2093570,00.html

It was made known to reporters that the family wanted their daughter to be referred to as Madeleine rather than the tabloid-coined Maddy.

THank you Moon for that link! I was too tired to wade around lookin for it!;)

[Jdee]

and if a child has been seen in Malta that someone felt was Madeleine in a dark wig.. WHY have we not seen ANY pics from the McCann team of Madeleine with a wig on? The ONLY ones I've seen are the ones sleuths here have done!

[MoonGoddess]

The McCanns also asked newspapers and TV stations to stop using pictures of their other two children, two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, to protect their privacy.

They said their campaign to find Madeleine would now become "event-driven" with the aim of putting her image at the front of people's minds.

Source: Sky News (http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1271728,00.html)

They've been out there practically doing photoshoots with their young twins when they should've been more concerned with keeping Maddie's picture out there from the get-go. It makes sense to worry about the twins pictures being in the media, but they're the ones who seemed to be into the photo-ops!

HELLO!!!! ...........what was this all about then:doh:

http://i11.tinypic.com/630kns1.jpg

http://i11.tinypic.com/4qdzmuu.jpg

http://news.sky.com/skynews/picture_gallery/picture_gallery/0,,91210-1267634-2,00.html

to display but a few!!!:banghead: .........OMGG.......what is it with these two.......what are they not getting paid enough for them???

[englishleigh]

What is this about her being seen in Malta?

[Jdee]

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/

"Malta's Police confirms: Girl seen was not Madeleine (http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/06/maltas-police-confirms-girl-seen-was.html)"

Wonder how they cleared that up so fast?

[petra]

Sky news article within the last hour--

McCaans thank media and wellwishers......

Article starts to look back at events...
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1271890,00.html



Sounds like the *new campaign* and pr group are in place :rolleyes:

[s_finch]

Thanks for the link MG.

A snippet from the blog...........
====================================


No they haven't. They haven't searched for her anywhere.

What they have done is travelled around Europe in a private jet, met the Pope, political dignitaries, city officials (none of whom are in a position to offer much in the .

Why did they not tour the streets, clubs and bars? I agree, that even if they...........................SNIP


Petra, if I ever lose a child, (Good Lord above, please forbid) I want you and others on here to be our workers and brain for the rescue. I have respect for your opinion Petra and know you know what you're talking about.

I don't mean to defend Madeleine's parents, I do admit their actions have been "different", just wondering if they are perfect examples of "all book sense and no common sense". You would think they'd hire someone to show them how to actually hunt for Madeleine, but maybe in their upper crust world, this is how it is perceived to be done----just keep making headlines rather than doing actual footwork. I dunno, just wondering out loud. For some reason I can't bring myself to believe yet that the McCann's had a hand in her disappearance, but their actions aren't helping their cause very much it seems.

[colomom]

http://www.maltamedia.com/artman2/publish/law_order/article_2386.shtml

Maybe it is mass hysteria???

[colomom]

Petra, if I ever lose a child, (Good Lord above, please forbid) I want you and others on here to be our workers and brain for the rescue.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[CaliKid]

Sky news article within the last hour--

McCaans thank media and wellwishers......

Article starts to look back at events...
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1271890,00.html



Sounds like the *new campaign* and pr group are in place :rolleyes:

How many cases have we seen in which inexperienced LE muck up investigations from the get-go! And what is it about these departments that make it impossible for them to ask for help from more-experienced officers? If the Portugal police are so inept, maybe they should've gotten Interpol involved right away.

[CaliKid]

http://www.maltamedia.com/artman2/publish/law_order/article_2386.shtml

Maybe it is mass hysteria???

Just because that one particular photo wasn't of Madeleine doesn't mean she isn't in Malta and hasn't been sighted by other people. The McCanns need to hire search teams to go to the island and hand out photos of their daughter to anyone they can find, nationals and visitors. And if someone on Malta has a child who resembles Madeleine, it would be wise for them to produce her so the police can stop looking for her.

[SieSie]

From: MaltaMedia.com (http://www.maltamedia.com/artman2/publish/law_order/article_2386.shtml)

Police have received a total of 12 reports from persons who have alleged to have sighted missing Madeleine McCann in Malta.

The first report of a sighting of the missing girl reached the Maltese Police on the 27th May. A Maltese national claimed the girl had been seen in Valletta in the company of a man one week earlier.

A second report was filed on the 17th June, when two British women claimed to have seen a girl remarkably similar to Madeleine McCann near the Floriana bus terminus. The girl was seen in company of a middle-aged woman. The two boarded a bus headed for Qawra and alit it once they reached St Paul’s Bay.

Following media reports pertaining to the case which were published in the media on Thursday, Police received seven further reports of alleged sightings. Police said that the reports were given by six women, one man and an anonymous person. The person or persons allegedly accompanying the child differed in the reports. The girl was allegedly seen in Valletta, Sliema, Mdina and Marsascala in the days and weeks leading up to Thursday, 21st June.

The latest report was made on Friday when an anonymous caller told Police that the 4-year-old girl might have been seen in Baħar iċ-Ċagħaq on Thursday. A further report, also filed on Friday, claimed that a similar looking girl was also seen in Marsascala about a fortnight ago.
More at link above.



and another article from MaltaMedia.com (http://www.maltamedia.com/artman2/publish/law_order/article_2380.shtml)
Police have confirmed to MaltaMedia that there have been a number of reports of alleged sightings of missing Madeleine McCann around Malta. Police told MaltaMedia on Friday that investigations are underway and a magisterial inquiry has been launched. They could not give MaltaMedia any further details.

According to The Daily Mail, five different possible sightings have been reported on the island since the weekend.

Stricter controls in all of Malta’s departure points have been ordered. Plainclothes Police have been carrying out intensive searches in various Maltese towns and cities, mainly those hosting large numbers of tourists.
(I'm glad to hear this!! SieSie)

Photographs of the young girl have also been distributed to Police and Officials working at the Maltese airport and ports.
More at link above.


So here are the places where there were reported sightings in Malta:
-- Valletta
-- Floriana – bus headed for Qawra
-- Sliema
-- Mdina
-- Marsascala
-- Baħar iċ-Ċagħaq

[Shazza]

Try this Shazza:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann

interesting reading.....and comments!!

P.S. just tried it and it worked....if not, I'll find another way in....this guy is saying what a lot are thinking....some consider it harsh but IMAO it needs saying.....
Great Link, thanks MoonGoddess.

I totally agree with everything he said which has been said here all along.

[colomom]

Here is another pic ala "supermodel"...is that a smirk???? http://smileydatabase.com/s/896.gif

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/colomom/12870.gif

[luvbeaches]

This blog by a hard hitting Australian is worth a look and is asking the same questions as most would like answers to, also found it offensive that he couldn't even spell his daughters name correctly

Thanks for the link.

I agree with everything the posters said. The parents are idiots.

[Shazza]

Here is another pic ala "supermodel"...is that a smirk???? http://smileydatabase.com/s/896.gif

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/colomom/12870.gif

Does that look like a mother who has a missing child, I would love to wipe that smirk of her face.

[meowy]

When they do find Maddy, I worry about when she goes back home. Worried about the younger kids, hopefully they don't grow up always in her shadow and regarded as not as important as Maddy is.

[MoonGoddess]

Does that look like a mother who has a missing child, I would love to wipe that smirk of her face.

Can I go first?

[colomom]

Can I go first?

NO!! Me, me, me, me, me! I have sooooo much I'd like to tell Kate McCann about being a mom.

I LOVE you MoonGoodness!

[MoonGoddess]

NO!! Me, me, me, me, me! I have sooooo much I'd like to tell Kate McCann about being a mom.

I LOVE you MoonGoodness!

I LOVE you too colomom :blowkiss: .......it 2am and I'm off to bed now...

trying to get that 'smug' look out of my conciousness:mad:

Love all you guys:)

[colomom]

When they do find Maddy, I worry about when she goes back home. Worried about the younger kids, hopefully they don't grow up always in her shadow and regarded as not as important as Maddy is.
You know, she may never be able to go "home". There has been a huge outcry regarding the "neglect" aspect of this case. There is a real possibility that they might be arrested if they try to go "home". Can you imagine being away from "home" for 50 days??? Wouldn't you miss your "stuff" (as George Carlin described)?? Wouldn't you want to get your 2 year olds settled back with their "stuff". Imagine being in Anaheim (after a trip to Disneyland), would you want to stay there? I swear, there is something really wrong with this whole thing, it stinks!

I hate having somebody "play" with my heart the way they have.....:furious:

[CaliKid]

MG, you are da bomb!

Okay, I know I'm being facetious, but I think I know the McCanns' future if Madeleine is returned to them. I can easily see them permanently settling outside of the UK and soaking up the rich life with their three kids and a nanny for each one so KM and GM don't have to take care of them. She can be an embassador for missing children, and he can do whatever he wants.

Wake up world- these people are not in the running for sainthood or parents of the year.

[Texana]

Great link, thanks for posting it. Some hard questions but certainly fair ones.

[colomom]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2007281061,00.html

Now we are up to 14 sightings in Malta. If it is not mass hysteria it must be her!! http://smileydatabase.com/s/902.gif

If she is there it is just a matter of time.....

[CaliKid]

Maps of Malta and the Mediterranean.

http://www.soton.ac.uk/~jamescj/medsip2004/Images/map_of_malta2.gif

http://www.simnia.com/film/potc2/mediterranean_map.gif

[Shazza]

Prayers that they do find Madelaine in Malta.

[petra]

Quote:
Originally Posted by s_finch http://www.websleuths.com/forums/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1544769#post1544769)
Petra, if I ever lose a child, (Good Lord above, please forbid) I want you and others on here to be our workers and brain for the rescue.

Thank you. I will be there in a NY minute-along with all the great sleuthers on here.

.....praying we are never needed.

TY colomom

[petra]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1271908,00.html

McCanns not thinking of Malta

[petra]

In a statement Maltese police said officers were checkling all the reported sightings, although all have "so far yielded a negative outcome.
"However, investigations are still actively in progress in order to shed more light upon the reported sightings."
As an additional measure, officers have been stationed at ports to check people leaving the country.
http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1550727.jpg Balloons are released

A spokeswoman for Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate McCann, said they would not consider he alleged sightings in Malta until any are officially confirmed.
She added: "There are lots of reports. If they got that emotionally involved with each one, they wouldn't be able to concentrate on the campaign

Why did the spokeswoman need to add that comment?? :rolleyes:

[petra]

Maps of Malta and the Mediterranean.

http://www.soton.ac.uk/~jamescj/medsip2004/Images/map_of_malta2.gif

http://www.simnia.com/film/potc2/mediterranean_map.gif


Thanks for the maps.

Here is another link with some more info on Malta.

http://www.malta.com/about-malta/cities-towns-and-villages.html

[petra]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2007281061,00.html

Now we are up to 14 sightings in Malta. If it is not mass hysteria it must be her!! http://smileydatabase.com/s/902.gif

If she is there it is just a matter of time.....


I think you are spot on with the mass hysteria, although I do hope they find Madeleine there-alive and well. That would be wonderful.

Malta is a beautiful, small island nation with tourisim as their main economy. Just about everyone speaks British English (once part of the Empire). Maltese is a dying language.

With some many tourists going there this time of year--lots of Brits, I bet we may hear of lots of sightings. Very Catholic, family oriented , warm and wonderful people. If Madeleine is there, they will find her!!!!

I just can't imagine *an abductor* bringing this sweet little one to Malta.
It is a closed- in area, locals know each other, and LE will be looking out with a sharp eye. They have lots of extra *eyes* in terms of LE due to the recent problems with refugees entering illegally because of EU status.

Still hoping for the best for Madeleine.

imoo

[Shazza]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1271908,00.html

McCanns not thinking of Malta
No Petra they certainly are not, they are more interested in making sure that balloons are let go in 50 countries, more money and media wasted on rubbish that is not helping with the search of Madelaine.

Why cant they concentrate more on their missing daughter, these parents dont deserve children.

I spent the day with my youngest daughter today, she is 21 and lives away from home, I had a moment where I was staring at her and she asked me why, I told her I loved her and glad she was my daughter, if anything happened to her I would die. I dont understand why Madelaines parents are cold fish.

Cherish your children, they are a godsend.

[MoonGoddess]

No Petra they certainly are not, they are more interested in making sure that balloons are let go in 50 countries, more money and media wasted on rubbish that is not helping with the search of Madelaine.

Why cant they concentrate more on their missing daughter, these parents dont deserve children.

I spent the day with my youngest daughter today, she is 21 and lives away from home, I had a moment where I was staring at her and she asked me why, I told her I loved her and glad she was my daughter, if anything happened to her I would die. I dont understand why Madelaines parents are cold fish.

Cherish your children, they are a godsend.

Thats funny my youngest-daughter 19-spent the last couple of days with me, and we had some real 'girlie time' and extra cuddles-(she still sleeps with me when she stays over....) I love her to bits and I'm so glad she knows it. My son OTOH is a little less demonstative but allowed me to be a proud mom when he ran the London Marathon recently, I am trying to learn how to post a jpg link like you guys do........... Is that you Shazza? in the 'bunnykin' outfit?...........best not let Hugh Hefner catch sight of that :D

[Shazza]

Thats funny my youngest-daughter 19-spent the last couple of days with me, and we had some real 'girlie time' and extra cuddles-(she still sleeps with me when she stays over....) I love her to bits and I'm so glad she knows it. My son OTOH is a little less demonstative but allowed me to be a proud mom when he ran the London Marathon recently, I am trying to learn how to post a jpg link like you guys do........... Is that you Shazza? in the 'bunnykin' outfit?...........best not let Hugh Hefner catch sight of that :D
I wish MoonGoddess, the bunny girl is my youngest dd, the lady in red is my eldest dd, and then there is my hubby. The are my beautiful family whom I am very proud of.
I dont have sons only my two dd's, they are what keep me going, they are my being....I love them dearly. Thats what makes it so hard for me having the negative attitude towards the McCanns, it really grates on me how cold and selfish they seem.

[MoonGoddess]

Mike has updated his blog today:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann

Is this the new British media spirit? When the going gets tough - say nothing? The British media Bulldog has become the Three Wise Monkeys - hearing nothing, seeing, nothing and saying nothing.

:laugh: Why are you not questioning what happened? We only have the word of the McCanns as to what happened, and their stories change more often than Paris Hilton's bed mates.

This guy has some guts :woohoo:

[Shazza]

Mike has updated his blog today:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann

Is this the new British media spirit? When the going gets tough - say nothing? The British media Bulldog has become the Three Wise Monkeys - hearing nothing, seeing, nothing and saying nothing.

:laugh: Why are you not questioning what happened? We only have the word of the McCanns as to what happened, and their stories change more often than Paris Hilton's bed mates.

This guy has some guts :woohoo:
Mike says it as he sees it, I am totally disgusted to read in his update that there will be wristbands and a CD with the McCanns favourite music for sale. How can someone profit from a little girls nightmare....oops thats right its the McCanns, non feeling, selfish, arrogant, attention seeking individuals that call themselves parents. What a joke.

[mjak]

No Petra they certainly are not, they are more interested in making sure that balloons are let go in 50 countries, more money and media wasted on rubbish that is not helping with the search of Madelaine.

Why cant they concentrate more on their missing daughter, these parents dont deserve children.

I spent the day with my youngest daughter today, she is 21 and lives away from home, I had a moment where I was staring at her and she asked me why, I told her I loved her and glad she was my daughter, if anything happened to her I would die. I dont understand why Madelaines parents are cold fish.

Cherish your children, they are a godsend.


I try very hard to make sure I do not stand in judgment in others based on my orientations. However, this time I just can not accept the behaviors of these parents as a healthy representation of a different orientation then my own. I am very very hands on , scientific and emotionally driven kind of person. I know if it was my child missing (G-d for bid) I would be searching 24/7. Everything for me would be about the search. Day and night I would be searching that resort and spreading out. When not searching I would be taking a daily visit or two to LE for briefings. PR stuff would be absolulty not on the rador for me. Relasing balloons, photo ops, hiring PR campaign managers all of it incomprehensible to me. Traveling away from the resort totally inconcievable to me. Posting a daily schedule on a blog that showed anything more then searched for my child all day would never happen. I have no right to stand in judgement of these people but irregardless I take a stand and that is that the behaviors of these parents are atrocious to me.

mjak

[lizziedripping]

Mike says it as he sees it, I am totally disgusted to read in his update that there will be wristbands and a CD with the McCanns favourite music for sale. How can someone profit from a little girls nightmare....oops thats right its the McCanns, non feeling, selfish, arrogant, attention seeking individuals that call themselves parents. What a joke.

Whoah Shazza, this is the precious McCanns we’re talking about, don’t go raining on their charade……….. err, I mean parade!!! :laugh:

I said in an earlier post that I thought the McCanns would write a book, who would have thought wristbands and CD’s would come first. What will it be next, pretty Madeleine lookalike Dolls, Madeleine stationery, McCann family portrait charity Christmas cards…………. :sick: :sick:

[CarpeDiem]

I try very hard to make sure I do not stand in judgment in others based on my orientations. However, this time I just can not accept the behaviors of these parents as a healthy representation of a different orientation then my own. I am very very hands on , scientific and emotionally driven kind of person. I know if it was my child missing (G-d for bid) I would be searching 24/7. Everything for me would be about the search. Day and night I would be searching that resort and spreading out. When not searching I would be taking a daily visit or two to LE for briefings. PR stuff would be absolulty not on the rador for me. Relasing balloons, photo ops, hiring PR campaign managers all of it incomprehensible to me. Traveling away from the resort totally inconcievable to me. Posting a daily schedule on a blog that showed anything more then searched for my child all day would never happen. I have no right to stand in judgement of these people but irregardless I take a stand and that is that the behaviors of these parents are atrocious to me.

mjak

I'll take that stand with you.

God help Madeleine and her siblings.

[englishleigh]

God forgive me for saying this if I am wrong, but...

I now think they are not giving the Malta sightings any credence b/c they know it is not Madeleine. I think they know Madeleine is dead. And I think they know b/c they know exactly what happened to her.

I think all they care about now is playing "cover their arses" and seeing how much money they can raise for their "fund". And as someone said earlier, why not go home to the UK? Is it b/c most people in the UK feel about them now like many of us do? Is it b/c they know they might be prosecuted in the UK for child endangerment or neglect?

As I said...God forgive me....

[meowy]

I was thinking the same thing englishleigh, feel bad for thinking it =(

[mjak]

a qustion for our English posters. I do not want to falsly draw conclusions based on cultural differences. I know how the Mcann parents are behaving is absolulty bonkers to me and not at all how parents in the states who have been in this same horrible situation have reacted. Is it different in Great Britan? Is there a great need to get funds inorder to get any kind of search for your child done? Intellectually I do not believe this to be so but I want it to be clarified for myself that this is not just a cultrual difference, thanks.

mjak

[CarpeDiem]

God forgive me for saying this if I am wrong, but...

I now think they are not giving the Malta sightings any credence b/c they know it is not Madeleine. I think they know Madeleine is dead. And I think they know b/c they know exactly what happened to her.

I think all they care about now is playing "cover their arses" and seeing how much money they can raise for their "fund". And as someone said earlier, why not go home to the UK? Is it b/c most people in the UK feel about them now like many of us do? Is it b/c they know they might be prosecuted in the UK for child endangerment or neglect?

As I said...God forgive me....

Me too. :(

I've heard it suggested, and I can't forget it, that the sizeable donations and attention, at the very start, from big name celebrities, was a surprise for the McCann's, and the point of no return in ever finding out the whole truth from them.

[mjak]

I feel like a disgusting human being for even entertaining the idea the parents are responsible for what happened to Maddie; but, I can't seem to draw any other conclusion right now. I feel like they went to see the Pope for forgivness and are now raising a bail fund. Please let me be wrong and forgive myself for thinking this.

mjak

[Spazkat9696]

I feel like a disgusting human being for even entertaining the idea the parents are responsible for what happened to Maddie; but, I can't seem to draw any other conclusion right now. I feel like they went to see the Pope for forgivness and are now raising a bail fund. Please let me be wrong and forgive myself for thinking this.

mjak

I feel the same way. I thought they were responsable from the start. Even if they didn't directly kill her they still left her alone when they went out.

[englishleigh]

I feel the same way. I thought they were responsable from the start. Even if they didn't directly kill her they still left her alone when they went out.

I'm not saying that I think it was planned...I don't think they thought, oh, let's kill Maddie...I think perhaps it was an accident...but they panicked. IF they are responsible other than leaving her alone, then that's what happened, IMO.

I can't believe they now have an ONLINE STORE on the Find Madeleine website!!
:sick:

[CarpeDiem]

I'm not saying that I think it was planned...I don't think they thought, oh, let's kill Maddie...I think perhaps it was an accident...but they panicked. IF they are responsible other than leaving her alone, then that's what happened, IMO.

I can't believe they now have an ONLINE STORE on the Find Madeleine website!!
:sick:

I don't know, how much of an accident is freaking out and not being able to control yourself, when as a parent you had just had enough? When you weren't going to halt YOUR plans and YOUR enjoyment for the tantrum and well being of a precious child? I'm fed up with the BS of the McCann's.

[Salem]

God forgive me for saying this if I am wrong, but...

I now think they are not giving the Malta sightings any credence b/c they know it is not Madeleine. I think they know Madeleine is dead. And I think they know b/c they know exactly what happened to her.

As I said...God forgive me....

And here, you hit the nail right on the head!:furious: I have thought this from very early on - when I heard they left their children alone.....
Their responses to the sightings and other "leads" is so abnormal!

14 sightings in Malta and they can not be bothered to do a personal consultation with the LE forces there, but they can visit the pope?

They now have a campaign manager....... why the h*ll don't they have time to do some actual searching and become a little more emotionally vested in this situation?:banghead:

I watched the video of that first interview and felt quite certain that Ms. McCann knows exactly what happened to her daughter. Now I think it is time for her to tell the rest of the world.

And the money making that is going on...... I have never seen anything like it! So many parents searching and worrying and trying to just make ends meet so that they can spend every spare cent on recovering their child and Team McCann comes out with a CD, wristband and maybe even a bookmarker!!!!!!!

Who gets that money when Madeleine is found? How is that trust set up? Will the extra money go to non-profits to help find other missing children or will it be used to support the McCann's for the rest of their lives? Maybe I should ask if it will be used to support the twins when the McCanns find their suntanned self's behind bars:behindbar

Salem

[CarpeDiem]

You know the twins are as good as signed up already for Boarding School. Not a doubt in my mind on that. Maybe they would be better off.

[MoonGoddess]

a qustion for our English posters. I do not want to falsly draw conclusions based on cultural differences. I know how the Mcann parents are behaving is absolulty bonkers to me and not at all how parents in the states who have been in this same horrible situation have reacted. Is it different in Great Britan? Is there a great need to get funds inorder to get any kind of search for your child done? Intellectually I do not believe this to be so but I want it to be clarified for myself that this is not just a cultrual difference, thanks.

mjak

Hi mjak,

To the best of my knowledge this is unprecendented, although I have seen some arguments put forward on other forums re parents setting up funds, but absolutely nothing in comparison to the the Grand Scale of 'McCann inc.' truly nothing ever like it over here. Hollys (Holly&Jessica) dad wrote a book, but IMHO feel it was a 'need' on his part to get it all out so to speak, am not sure where the proceeds went, Jamies (Jamie Bulger) mum got a lot of 'offering' but to the best of my knowledge did not set up any 'fund', as I say this really is unprecedented especially by people who aren't short of a bob or two....am having palpitations as I write...these two really are making us Brits look like merciless, money grabbing parasites.....they are downright fricking shameful. Also I think they are unprecedented in the lack of emotion they have showed throughout this also.

Sorry for the rant:banghead:

[Salem]

I don't know, how much of an accident is freaking out and not being able to control yourself, when as a parent you had just had enough? When you weren't going to halt YOUR plans and YOUR enjoyment for the tantrum and well being of a precious child? I'm fed up with the BS of the McCann's.

I'm fed up too! It hurts my heart that the McCanns continue to play this game.

I'm quite certain we are going to find that Maddie was sedated so that she would not wake up and call for daddy, only unfortunately she was overdosed. Not knowing what to do and at risk for losing their licenses to practice medicine, having their whole world fall apart, they paniced, hid Madeleine somewhere, reported her missing and the circus began. Now they are in a position they feel they cannot extract themselves from. This of course is just my opinion, but it is an opinion based on everything we have heard and seen in the media since this baby "went missing."

They need to stop the charade now, own up to what happened, donate all the money to the nonprofits and that new telephone system Britian is trying to implement and let the world move on.

Salem (this is my opinion only)

[englishleigh]

I don't know, how much of an accident is freaking out and not being able to control yourself, when as a parent you had just had enough? When you weren't going to halt YOUR plans and YOUR enjoyment for the tantrum and well being of a precious child? I'm fed up with the BS of the McCann's.

True, CD...very true.

[MoonGoddess]

Hi again Everyone:blowkiss:

I have had a cuppa and feel a little bit calmer.

I will state for the record that I firmly believe that the McC's know the demise of Madeleine and everything that has followed has been a charade and this is why I get so :banghead: angry re all this. I dont believe they intended to harm their daughter I believe that it was an "accident" caused by their inability to cope coupled with anger. The charade I feel is to keep suspicion away from them and it appears to be working, who in their right mind could believe that this 'business venture' is a cover up? I have a problem with it myself... but whether I'm in a right state of mind or not, I believe it.

[Pinkhammer]

Wristbands and a cd? I could just barf.

The McCanns and their relatives are horrible people.

[colomom]

I'm fed up too! It hurts my heart that the McCanns continue to play this game.
I'm quite certain we are going to find that Maddie was sedated so that she would not wake up and call for daddy, only unfortunately she was overdosed. Salem (this is my opinion only)

Boy, this is sooo sad you guys. I was always taught to "trust my gut" and I know that you all are expressing your gut feelings about this case. It is very difficult for me to wrap my brain around the possibility that I have been duped. I have been very heavily emotionally invested in this case. I haven't prayed so hard in my life. Not even when I was diagnosed with breast cancer and thought I might die and leave my children when they were so young. And I prayed hard then, believe me.

My prayers will change a bit. I will ask God to help me figure out why this all happened. I will ask what God is trying to tell me. I will pray for clarity. Please join me if you like.

Salem, your version of possible events immediately brought to mind an entry I saw on the website Briansprediction.com. While I always examine psychic insight (usually with a sceptical approach) there were things on this site that struck a chord with me. The entry I am referring to made reference to two numbers 272 and 125 (I think). It also mentioned that she was "under her parents feet". Someone posted that the McCanns' rented room 272 and room 125 was the room directly underneath theirs. I wondered if they had ever searched under the apartment? Some kind of basement or crawl space? Maybe (god forbid) a grave? Given what I have seen about PJ and their so called "searches", I really wonder.... Funny thing is, when I went to go find the entry so I could post the link, it was gone, erased, deleted. I wonder why? Does anybody else recall see this entry I am referring to? Can you find it? Maybe I am overlooking it somehow. The website is a bit complicated and not connected very well. If Salem's thoughts are accurate and the McCanns' needed to hide her quickly....just my thoughts.

Petra: you made some very good points about the situation in Malta and how those sightings may be mostly wishful thinking by tourists. And that statement regarding how the McCanns' can't pay attention to these reported sightings because if they got that emotionally involved with each one, they wouldn't be able to concentrate on the campaign really made me mad. There are many of us that know, as parents, we would be on the first plane to Malta with a stack of posters and loads of reward money. Someone else made the point that this might loosen some tongues. This is exactly what I would do!! You too, Englishleigh, regarding the lack of interest in the Malta sightings by McCann Inc., they know something and that something is not in Malta.

I feel bad about what feels like judgements on my part but, I can't help it. I can't ignore it when I am being smacked upside the head :slap: I am also getting a headache...

You guys are great! Don't feel bad about speaking your minds. If more people would stand up and grow a pair than maybe we would not have these conversations regarding missing and abused children. At least, not as often.

~Take good care

[colomom]

I try very hard to make sure I do not stand in judgment in others based on my orientations. However, this time I just can not accept the behaviors of these parents as a healthy representation of a different orientation then my own. I am very very hands on , scientific and emotionally driven kind of person. I know if it was my child missing (G-d for bid) I would be searching 24/7. Everything for me would be about the search. Day and night I would be searching that resort and spreading out. When not searching I would be taking a daily visit or two to LE for briefings. PR stuff would be absolulty not on the rador for me. Relasing balloons, photo ops, hiring PR campaign managers all of it incomprehensible to me. Traveling away from the resort totally inconcievable to me. Posting a daily schedule on a blog that showed anything more then searched for my child all day would never happen. I have no right to stand in judgement of these people but irregardless I take a stand and that is that the behaviors of these parents are atrocious to me.

mjak

Good post mjak, you probably speak for alot of us. :clap:

I would feel much differently about Team McCann if it was headed (administered) by a family member or private investigator. I would also feel better about the McCanns if they took the twins home, even if they left them with Grandma so they could check out the sightings. The lack of real action or effort on their parts is very suspect....IMHO.

[CaliKid]

If they got that emotionally involved with each one, they wouldn't be able to concentrate on the campaign
Oh, you mean the campaign that is more about making money and looking good, not about finding their daughter?

God forgive me for saying this if I am wrong, but...

I now think they are not giving the Malta sightings any credence b/c they know it is not Madeleine. I think they know Madeleine is dead. And I think they know b/c they know exactly what happened to her.

I think all they care about now is playing "cover their arses" and seeing how much money they can raise for their "fund". And as someone said earlier, why not go home to the UK? Is it b/c most people in the UK feel about them now like many of us do? Is it b/c they know they might be prosecuted in the UK for child endangerment or neglect?

As I said...God forgive me....
I wish I didn't feel this way, but I too am beginning to think that something happened in that apartment that has nothing to do with leaving a door unlocked and someone sneaking in. I wonder if the tapas bar employees could shed some light on Gerry and Kate's behavior while they were dining. Or maybe the three other esteemed colleague families who ate with them- is that why they aren't saying anything?

[CaliKid]

MoonGoddess, it sounds as if everyone in the UK is caught up in some kind of hysterical outpouring of emotional support and providing money for Gerry and Kate McCann, almost to the point of making them the victims in her disappearance - is this true?

What is the general feeling of most people towards them?

Is the tide turning and are people there starting to ask the same questions we are about Madeleine's disappearance?

We've read about a "media black-out"- what does that really mean?

Is there some way a person could spark an outcry, say by putting up signs in the windows of their home, much like what happened when Princess Diana died and you were protesting the Queen's behavior?

[petra]

http://www.findmadeleine.com/local/

Madeleines official website--New song playing, *Everything I do I do for You*, which the McCanns were given permission to use by songwriter/singer. Such a beautiful song, beautiful little girl...I got very teary eyed and touched.

:banghead: Then , I clink on community events and of course-the on line store--seeing the fund ticking upwards over 805.000GBP or 1.600.000 USD and I have a sick feeling sweep over me with a tight knot in my stomach. This is just SO WRONG!!!

And this does not inlude the 2.5 million pound sterling or 5 million USD reward fund set up by others--some heavy hitters.

Wow guys--you have said it all on the past few pages of posts.

Something is so distorted in this entire search for Madeleine. :confused:

Bless her and all she may have or is going through.It is heartwrenching to think about. Makes me so sad and so troubled.

[petra]

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/

:clap:

[petra]

Answers to questions about how to donate and what funds to the incorporated fund will be used for-- it does not appear to be a charity ( 501c3)...imo

http://www.findmadeleine.com/fund/

[MoonGoddess]

MoonGoddess, it sounds as if everyone in the UK is caught up in some kind of hysterical outpouring of emotional support and providing money for Gerry and Kate McCann, almost to the point of making them the victims in her disappearance - is this true?

What is the general feeling of most people towards them?

Is the tide turning and are people there starting to ask the same questions we are about Madeleine's disappearance?

We've read about a "media black-out"- what does that really mean?

Is there some way a person could spark an outcry, say by putting up signs in the windows of their home, much like what happened when Princess Diana died and you were protesting the Queen's behavior?

Sorry this will have to be a bit brief:-

1st point is true but it has died down a lot, I saw on one News item - 2 women totally unbeknown and unrelated to the McCanns filmed at an airport booking tickets to Portugal because "we feel we just have to do something, we're going out to help in the search"...everywhere you went you had a collection bucket' on hand to 'donate' to the 'fund', my workplace had 'a dress down day' with all proceeds to the 'fund' that sort of thing........fricking ridiculous, but you were made to feel umcomfertable if you weren't flowing in the wave of public sympathy...

2nd point - most people I know are sick of it......a kind of 'media overexposure' in the early days but now the media have backed off a bit and limited reporting....

3rd point - a lot of debate on UK forums re the 'media blackout' which is bascially no one in the uk media having the balls to raise the question of why they left the kids reguarly, why they aren't being investigated by social services, why wont it be 'confirmed' exactly what time Madeleine was last seen alive by anyone other than the McC's...media will only portray them as the victims

4th point - I personally think people are not that bothered to go to those lenghts but the people that do care are writing on Forums and blogs - Aussie Mike has a lot of comments from the UK which offers a good indication of how most of us feel but are afraid to say

I do feel the tide is turning slightly though, I cant work out if the Portugese police are not investigating the parents or they are being 'encouraged' not to? it all seems to have gotten a bit political which is the bit that I cant get my head around - thank the Lord for the likes of Aussie Mike - I just hope he doesnt get :silenced:

Hope this makes sense.

Luv all you guys-will see you tomoz.

[CaliKid]

Sorry this will have to be a bit brief:-

1st point is true but it has died down a lot, I saw on one News item - 2 women totally unbeknown and unrelated to the McCanns filmed at an airport booking tickets to Portugal because "we feel we just have to do something, we're going out to help in the search"...everywhere you went you had a collection bucket' on hand to 'donate' to the 'fund', my workplace had 'a dress down day' with all proceeds to the 'fund' that sort of thing........fricking ridiculous, but you were made to feel umcomfertable if you weren't flowing in the wave of public sympathy...

2nd point - most people I know are sick of it......a kind of 'media overexposure' in the early days but now the media have backed off a bit and limited reporting....

3rd point - a lot of debate on UK forums re the 'media blackout' which is bascially no one in the uk media having the balls to raise the question of why they left the kids reguarly, why they aren't being investigated by social services, why wont it be 'confirmed' exactly what time Madeleine was last seen alive by anyone other than the McC's...media will only portray them as the victims

4th point - I personally think people are not that bothered to go to those lenghts but the people that do care are writing on Forums and blogs - Aussie Mike has a lot of comments from the UK which offers a good indication of how most of us feel but are afraid to say

I do feel the tide is turning slightly though, I cant work out if the Portugese police are not investigating the parents or they are being 'encouraged' not to? it all seems to have gotten a bit political which is the bit that I cant get my head around - thank the Lord for the likes of Aussie Mike - I just hope he doesnt get :silenced:

Hope this makes sense.

Luv all you guys-will see you tomoz.

Thank you very much, MG. Yes, it seems to me that a cover-up is occuring in high places and wonder how the McCanns are so well-connected that they skate right over questions that would be put to the average parent if their daughter disappeared.

Answers to questions about how to donate and what funds to the incorporated fund will be used for-- it does not appear to be a charity ( 501c3)...imo

http://www.findmadeleine.com/fund/
I'd send an e-mail to the site and try to raise a ruckus, but I doubt it would do any good. This seems like a huge scam to capitalize on people's generosity and emotions over the disappearance of this darling little girl. Sadly, I don't think this is about Madeleine anymore. Even more sadly, I doubt she's ever going home.

[mjak]

What exactly do the McCanns need all this money for? Are they trying to get funds to get texas equserach to come to search, are the funds inorder to pay for a excevation of a site they belive their daughter is buried at? what is it they need so much money for??? I am all for sending money to help with expensise to locate a missing person but this seems all backwards. The focus seems on money raising with a secondary agenda of a child being missing. Are others as confounded as I am??

mjak

[colomom]

Answers to questions about how to donate and what funds to the incorporated fund will be used for-- it does not appear to be a charity ( 501c3)...imo

http://www.findmadeleine.com/fund/

3.1.3 To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.
3.2 If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

Oh, the wording on this is just precious. Who will determine when "the above objects are fulfilled"? If Kate McCann decides to take on the crusade of raising awareness about missing/abducted children she can always say that she will need access to the monies indefinately. After all she will be giving up her career as a doctor to take on this unpaid charade....I mean crusade http://smileydatabase.com/s/518.gif(thank you lizziedripping). It is waaaaay to open-ended.

Of course it is....:snooty:

[Shazza]

Calikid you hit the nail right on the head, this isnt about Madelaine anymore, wouldnt it be good if we could copy this whole thread and send it to their PR people, it would really shock them back to reality.
Still praying for Madelaines safe return.

[englishleigh]

3.1.3 To provide support, including financial assistance, to Madeleine’s family.
3.2 If the above objects are fulfilled then the objects of the Foundation shall be to pursue such purposes in similar cases arising in the United Kingdom, Portugal or elsewhere.

Oh, the wording on this is just precious. Who will determine when "the above objects are fulfilled"? If Kate McCann decides to take on the crusade of raising awareness about missing/abducted children she can always say that she will need access to the monies indefinately. After all she will be giving up her career as a doctor to take on this unpaid charade....I mean crusade http://smileydatabase.com/s/518.gif(thank you lizziedripping). It is waaaaay to open-ended.

Of course it is....:snooty:

That's what i was thinking. If Madeleine is never found, then can't the McCanns say the conditions weren't met and continue LIVING off the fund under the guise that they are actually still searching for their daughter?? I mean this could go on for YEARS and likely will.....:banghead: :doh:

[Shazza]

I think the money raised so far should be donated to others that are still searching for loved ones, I dont understand why they need all that money, as they are only using it for their own purposes, I would love to know what the money has been spent on so far, nothing that will bring Madelaine home safe I bet.

[Salem]

Okay - I know I am being witchy with a capital B, but in the blog it says.....

"Met with the Portuguese police today for an update. Their committemnt to find Madeleine matches ours and we all hope for that vital breakthrough every day."

I added the underline......

The money thing is out of hand. "To support the McCann family....":confused: :loser:

Which poster at webslueth sometimes screams inside her head? I'm not sure I remember exactly, so I won't name names, but I have to say, today, I am screaming inside my head for Madeleine. And I am directing my silent screams to her parents to PLEASE, PLEASE do the right thing so Madeleine can come home.:(

I used to feel bad about my suspicions, but after visiting the website and seeing the greedy, money hungry way it is presented, I now only feel bad for all the other parents, who have no money and must still go to work everyday. If they had this money I am certain some of them would hire private detectives and travel to places where there may be a chance of actually finding their child.

It seems so unfair to me....... these parents who neglected their children appear to have become some kind of role model, similar to Paris Hilton. It makes me want to barf:sick:

Salem

[colomom]

What exactly do the McCanns need all this money for? Are they trying to get funds to get texas equserach to come to search, are the funds inorder to pay for a excevation of a site they belive their daughter is buried at? what is it they need so much money for??? I am all for sending money to help with expensise to locate a missing person but this seems all backwards. The focus seems on money raising with a secondary agenda of a child being missing. Are others as confounded as I am??

mjak

Count me as one of the confoundedhttp://smileydatabase.com/s/323.png mjak, I do not understand any of it and it gets worse as each day passes.

I can honestly say that I have not seen any evidence of monies actually spent to search for Madeleine in any way, shape or form.

:twocents:

[mjak]

Count me as one of the confoundedhttp://smileydatabase.com/s/323.png mjak, I do not understand any of it and it gets worse as each day passes.

I can honestly say that I have not seen any evidence of monies actually spent to search for Madeleine in any way, shape or form.

:twocents:


I mean I would glandly send money if I thought it would help but I don't see what it is being used for? where are the searches for maddie? This couple does not seem to be financialy strapped, they were on an exclusive vacation and being physicians are on the top of the line for earning capacity. So what is this great financial need for. If texas equsearch was asking for funds to go to portugual to serach I would glandly send but somehow I don't think these funds are going for anything like that. What is being done to find Maddie?

mjak

[CaliKid]

I wish there was some way we could wake up the British media and those in the UK who continue to hold these parents as blameless victims. I wholeheartedly agree with the poster who said it's mass hysteria, but I'm not talking about the Madeleine sightings in Malta. I'm talking about the sheep who aren't looking at the facts and putting 2 and 2 together: Either

1) The McCanns through their ignorance and selfishness left their defenseless children alone in an apartment so they could enjoy a leisurely dinner out with friends, and (a) someone walked in and took the opportunity to steal Madeleine or (b) she wandered outside and got lost/hurt/died,

or 2) The McCanns did something to her and accidentally caused her death and have spent the past 7 weeks covering it up and deflecting suspicion.

[englishleigh]

I mean I would glandly send money if I thought it would help but I don't see what it is being used for? where are the searches for maddie? This couple does not seem to be financialy strapped, they were on an exclusive vacation and being physicians are on the top of the line for earning capacity. So what is this great financial need for. If texas equsearch was asking for funds to go to portugual to serach I would glandly send but somehow I don't think these funds are going for anything like that. What is being done to find Maddie?

mjak

As far as I can see, they are being used for their travel to meet to Pope and to Spain and wherever else they went, and to extend their vacation in Portugal
indefinitely while they "search".

[Hermione]

I feel horrible for the parents and most of all, Maddy, but I just can't get past the fact that 2 doctors go on vacation and leave their 2 year old twins and 3 year old daughter alone in a room while they go eat- for whatever length of time, no matter who else in their group was doing it too, for whatever reason, period.

I don't leave my 3 year old alone in our own home while I go mow the lawn for 20 minutes. Anything could happen.

I pray for Maddy's safe return but can't get over the fact that they left these kids alone in a hotel room no matter how close by they were eating.

[Jdee]

Which poster at webslueth sometimes screams inside her head? I'm not sure I remember exactly, so I won't name names, but I have to say, today, I am screaming inside my head for Madeleine. And I am directing my silent screams to her parents to PLEASE, PLEASE do the right thing so Madeleine can come home.

Salem[/quote]

Me... and I do scream for this poor lost child...but not for these parents. When this first happened I was upset when I came on here and read all the negative stuff about the parents but as time has gone on I climbed the fence from one side and now am going down the other. I do not like how these parents are acting. I have yet seen Mrs. McCann shed a tear. THAT says EVERYTHING to me. AND makes me scream in my head...

[colomom]

Evening All,

This is a copy of the e-mail I sent tonight to:
mail@bringmadeleinehome.com
and
mccannfamily@markwarner.co.uk

I will let you know if I receive a response. Don't hold your breath...

__________________________________________________ ______

From the blog:

"Our campaign to find Madeleine will be associated with other child welfare issues in the future. We are very keen to see more debate on issues that we and other families in similar situations have to face. Child abuse is a taboo subject still in many countries and we must encourage responsible debate around how child abuse can be prevented. "

Child Abuse???? What the hell are you talking about, child abuse?? Are you saying that Madeleine is a victim of child abuse??? Are you positive that she was abducted and then abused??

Wake up McCanns...the tide is turning and the anger grows.

Visit: http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann and answer the questions.....please.

Sincerely,

A Mom who loves Madeleine

[Salem]

[/quote]

Me... and I do scream for this poor lost child...but not for these parents. When this first happened I was upset when I came on here and read all the negative stuff about the parents but as time has gone on I climbed the fence from one side and now am going down the other. I do not like how these parents are acting. I have yet seen Mrs. McCann shed a tear. THAT says EVERYTHING to me. AND makes me scream in my head...[/quote]

Thanks Jdee - I didn't what to get the name wrong, but your signature line sticks with me and I honestly am screaming in my mind right now for Maddie.

The day should just about be starting over there now....... I wonder what it will bring. Something positive, I hope!

Prayers for Maddie - may she come home soon.

Salem

[Salem]

The only way the McCanns could be so positive that Madeleine did not wake up and wander out, is if there was a reason she wouldn't. And trust me, while many 3-4 year olds are very good children, they are also inquisitive and curious. So, if they think she did not wander off just because she had been taught/told not too, it would not be sound reasoning. If she was scared and the door was unlocked or if she was just feeling the freedom of no supervision and the door was unlocked, she very well could have wandered off.

McCanns insistence that she was abducted is one of the reasons their story is unbelieveable. McCanns have never entertained the idea that she may have wandered off - it has always been "she was taken."

I know about the woman late to dinner who saw someone with a child, but I don't much believe this story. Just too convenient and the McCanns were not told about the man with the child until AFTER Kate discovered Maddie missing. Kate had already made up her mind that Madeleine had been abducted before she even knew about the man!

Sounds a little "preplanned" to me.

Salem

[CaliKid]

I have a theory. On at least one occasion, Madeleine awoke to find herself alone in the apartment, and her crying roused other occupants around them who complained. Now what if the McCanns were giving something to the children to help them sleep at night. OR, because Madeleine woke up they decided to give something to her so she'd stay asleep. I think it's possible that they gave her too large a dose of some sleep aid and she died. So now the McCanns have a huge problem on their hands because they'll be charged with doping her. So they manufactured the "kidnapping".

[Shazza]

Evening All,

This is a copy of the e-mail I sent tonight to:
mail@bringmadeleinehome.com
and
mccannfamily@markwarner.co.uk

I will let you know if I receive a response. Don't hold your breath...

__________________________________________________ ______

From the blog:

"Our campaign to find Madeleine will be associated with other child welfare issues in the future. We are very keen to see more debate on issues that we and other families in similar situations have to face. Child abuse is a taboo subject still in many countries and we must encourage responsible debate around how child abuse can be prevented. "

Child Abuse???? What the hell are you talking about, child abuse?? Are you saying that Madeleine is a victim of child abuse??? Are you positive that she was abducted and then abused??

Wake up McCanns...the tide is turning and the anger grows.

Visit: http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann and answer the questions.....please.

Sincerely,

A Mom who loves Madeleine
Couldnt access your email, your email box comes up but not the content.

[MoonGoddess]

Hi you guys,

I didnt think the 'stench' coming from them could get an worse:-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1977684.ece

Lobbyist for Madeleine case

The family of Madeleine McCann will this week appoint a political lobbyist as campaigns manager. Justine McGuinness will be paid a “notional” salary. Detectives in Malta said they were investigating two fresh claimed sightings of the four-year-old.

Aussie Mike has updated his page today:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann)

Excuse me - but you know something don't you? (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/06/excuse-me-but-you-know-something-dont.html) ......




Is that you?
Is it?.........


What do you guys make of this? Has someone contacted him with information?

I absolutely despair of this whole sad sorry mess.....I really do:behindbar

[englishleigh]

A campaigns manager????????????? :rolleyes: I suppose they are going to pay her out of the funds? I don't see that listed as one of the "objectives".....what is the DEAL with these people?

Next thing we hear it will be that they have formed an official corporation, "Find Madeleine, Inc." and appointed themselves as CEO's and are paying themselves a salary....but wait....isn't that basically what's already happening??? :mad:

[colomom]

Couldnt access your email, your email box comes up but not the content.

Morning Shazza:

The email content is this (in red):

From the blog:

"Our campaign to find Madeleine will be associated with other child welfare issues in the future. We are very keen to see more debate on issues that we and other families in similar situations have to face. Child abuse is a taboo subject still in many countries and we must encourage responsible debate around how child abuse can be prevented. "

Child Abuse???? What the hell are you talking about, child abuse?? Are you saying that Madeleine is a victim of child abuse??? Are you positive that she was abducted and then abused??

Wake up McCanns...the tide is turning and the anger grows.

Visit: http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/...leine%20McCann and answer the questions.....please.

Sincerely,

A Mom who loves Madeleine

And these are the addresses I sent it to (in blue):

mail@bringmadeleinehome.com
and
mccannfamily@ markwarner.co.uk


Sorry if I confused you...:blowkiss:

[MoonGoddess]

Morning Shazza:

The email content is this (in red):

From the blog:

"Our campaign to find Madeleine will be associated with other child welfare issues in the future. We are very keen to see more debate on issues that we and other families in similar situations have to face. Child abuse is a taboo subject still in many countries and we must encourage responsible debate around how child abuse can be prevented. "

Child Abuse???? What the hell are you talking about, child abuse?? Are you saying that Madeleine is a victim of child abuse??? Are you positive that she was abducted and then abused??

Wake up McCanns...the tide is turning and the anger grows.

Visit: http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/...leine%20McCann and answer the questions.....please.

Sincerely,

A Mom who loves Madeleine

And these are the addresses I sent it to (in blue):

mail@bringmadeleinehome.com
and
mccannfamily@ markwarner.co.uk


Sorry if I confused you...:blowkiss:

You Rock colomom.........ooh sending you the biggest hug :blowkiss:

more later.

[englishleigh]

Great email, Heather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

[colomom]

Hi you guys,

I didnt think the 'stench' coming from them could get an worse:-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1977684.ece

Lobbyist for Madeleine case

The family of Madeleine McCann will this week appoint a political lobbyist as campaigns manager. Justine McGuinness will be paid a “notional” salary. Detectives in Malta said they were investigating two fresh claimed sightings of the four-year-old.

Aussie Mike has updated his page today:-

http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/search/label/Madeleine%20McCann

Excuse me - but you know something don't you? (http://ionglobaltrends.blogspot.com/2007/06/excuse-me-but-you-know-something-dont.html) ......
Is that you?
Is it?.........

What do you guys make of this? Has someone contacted him with information?

I absolutely despair of this whole sad sorry mess.....I really do:behindbar

Don't despair honey, it will all come out in the wash and we will grieve or we will celebrate. I just hope it doesn't go on too long.

I think Aussie Mike is hoping that somebody (either confidant of the McCanns or perhaps an abductor or someone who knows the abductor) will read his blog and feel a pang of conscience. He is appealing to them directly to come forward.

The "appointment" of the "campaign manager" is a very strange concept here in the states. Our government would never get involved with a missing child case and help the parents with a campaign. Anything like that would have to be paid for by the parents. Can you tell us more about this? Is this a typical government response in the UK? Would the people of the UK be "ok" with their tax dollars being spent this way? Why, do you think, there has not been a private detective working on this case? In the US that would be the first person hired in a case like this.

Thanks Moongoodness for the "you rock" :blushing: One more thing, if you don't mind. This Justine McGuinness person, is she part of The Liberal Democrats Party? I googled her and could not find alot. I specifically was looking for an e-mail address for her. Any ideas? If she is part of the Liberal Democrats Party then I can probably figure out her e-mail because their e-mail format is all the same (firstname.lastname@libdems.org.uk) and her e-mail would be justine.mcguiness@libdems.org.uk Make sense??

I would really like to forward her some of our posts and Aussie Mike's questions. Maybe she would have the courtesy to respond.

Thanks in advance! http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/colomom/bighug.gif

[colomom]

I have a theory. On at least one occasion, Madeleine awoke to find herself alone in the apartment, and her crying roused other occupants around them who complained. Now what if the McCanns were giving something to the children to help them sleep at night. OR, because Madeleine woke up they decided to give something to her so she'd stay asleep. I think it's possible that they gave her too large a dose of some sleep aid and she died. So now the McCanns have a huge problem on their hands because they'll be charged with doping her. So they manufactured the "kidnapping".

As horrible as that sounds I think you are expressing the thoughts of alot of us. It makes more sense than anything else that has been suggested.

I feel better thinking along these lines than going to that pedophile horror darkness in my mindhttp://smileydatabase.com/s/346.gif

The truth will come out, it almost always does doesn't it?

[colomom]

Great email, Heather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :clap: :clap: :clap:

Oh you are too kind! Heeheehee, I get bold when I have had a couple of glasses of wine :angel:

Englishleigh, please see my post to MG and shed some light if you can. From your post I get the impression that this campaign manager is not going to be paid for by the taxpayers. Do you know more? I have read posts on other forums that suggest that the taxpayers in the UK will foot the bill??

[MoonGoddess]

Don't despair honey, it will all come out in the wash and we will grieve or we will celebrate. I just hope it doesn't go on too long.

I think Aussie Mike is hoping that somebody (either confidant of the McCanns or perhaps an abductor or someone who knows the abductor) will read his blog and feel a pang of conscience. He is appealing to them directly to come forward.

The "appointment" of the "campaign manager" is a very strange concept here in the states. Our government would never get involved with a missing child case and help the parents with a campaign. Anything like that would have to be paid for by the parents. Can you tell us more about this? Is this a typical government response in the UK? Would the people of the UK be "ok" with their tax dollars being spent this way? Why, do you think, there has not been a private detective working on this case? In the US that would be the first person hired in a case like this.

Thanks Moongoodness for the "you rock" :blushing: One more thing, if you don't mind. This Justine McGuinness person, is she part of The Liberal Democrats Party? I googled her and could not find alot. I specifically was looking for an e-mail address for her. Any ideas? If she is part of the Liberal Democrats Party then I can probably figure out her e-mail because their e-mail format is all the same (firstname.lastname@libdems.org.uk) and her e-mail would be justine.mcguiness@libdems.org.uk Make sense??

I would really like to forward her some of our posts and Aussie Mike's questions. Maybe she would have the courtesy to respond.

Thanks in advance! http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/colomom/bighug.gif

Ok bear with me cause I've never held the slightest interest in politics, from what I can see on Wikedpedia she came 2nd in a 2005 election:-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Dorset_(UK_Parliament_constituency)

This is her blogspot:
http://justinemcguinness.blogspot.com/

there's no way (from what I could see) to contact her from the blog, and you have to sign up I think to leave a comment

As I say I'm a dunce where politics are concerened but I'm not sure she is still a member of the lib dems......I will keep my eyes peeled for a contact tho....Gerry may even mention it on his blog....

Never known of a govt. involvement like this before, this is unprecedented but the sympathisers will argue that this is just 'the brits looking after one of their own abroad'.....:banghead:

This is an indication of the backlash to the British taxpayer:-
http://my.telegraph.co.uk/dtracey/june_2007/clarence_mitchell_the_mccann_press_officer_is_a_go .htm

I personally think we tend to be a bit apathetic, if more people stood up to be counted we could make a difference.

Catch you guys later, am busy working on something re Madeleine with a lady in the US, an Astrologer who has worked on Missing Children cases for 17 years.....we sent our findings to the police and heard nothing, we tried other avenues as well. colomom you've given me an idea - might just send it straight to Mama & Papa.....my freind is working on a webpage on her site.....it makes interesting reading.

[MoonGoddess]

Oh you are too kind! Heeheehee, I get bold when I have had a couple of glasses of wine :angel:

Englishleigh, please see my post to MG and shed some light if you can. From your post I get the impression that this campaign manager is not going to be paid for by the taxpayers. Do you know more? I have read posts on other forums that suggest that the taxpayers in the UK will foot the bill??

Big Cheat......am copy/pasting from other site for ease:-

Looks like this is Justine McGuinness, the newly appointed Campaign Manager for the McCanns

http://westerncountieslibdems.org.uk...orsetWest.html (http://westerncountieslibdems.org.uk...orsetwest.html/) >

Biography:

Justine McGuinness, 36, was educated and grew up in Dorset, where she lives near Dorchester. She is the Managing Director of a specialist public affairs consultancy that focuses on environmental, agricultural, health and consumer affairs issues.

For over five years she has advised the UK's environmental regulator, the Environment Agency.

She is a member of several organisations including the Institute of Directors.

In 1997, Justine stood against Frank Dobson in Holborn and St Pancras. During the same period she was on the General Election committee that planned the national Liberal Democrat campaign, chaired by the then leader of the Liberal Democrats, Paddy Ashdown.

Having been active campaigner to encourage women to participate in public policy and stand for elected office, Justine was elected Chair of the Women Liberal Democrats in 1996.

While at London University, she was elected sabbatical Vice President of the University of London Union (1991) and was the Liberal Democrats' candidate for President of the National Union of Students (1992). In 1992 she set up the Reformer magazine, a political journal (the first edition was published in 1993).

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1977684.ece (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article1977684.ece) >

Alledgedly a political lobyist Justine McGuinness has been appointed Campaign Manager. I cannot verify this with a link yet, so bear with me.

The family of Madeleine McCann will this week appoint a political lobbyist as campaigns manager. Justine McGuinness will be paid a “notional” salary. Detectives in Malta said they were investigating two fresh claimed sightings of the four-year-old.


Probably getting paid for by the fund:behindbar

gee this is exhausting..................lol

[mjak]

The family of Madeleine McCann will this week appoint a political lobbyist as campaigns manager. Justine McGuinness will be paid a “notional” salary. Detectives in Malta said they were investigating two fresh claimed sightings of the four-year-old. [/I]
Probably getting paid for by the fund:behindbar gee this is exhausting..................lol

What the heck is a notional salary?? I can't fathom this, I can't even believe this. I just keep reading this over and over and over and keep teling myself they must mean to say they hired a PI and not a PR manager. This is sick, revolting and morally reprehensible. Poor Maddie.

mjak

[SeriouslySearching]

<shaking my head> This case gets more bizarre by the day!

[colomom]

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,91210-1271988,00.html

Child Trafficking 'Link' To Missing Girl

Nope, sorry, I don't buy it. Simply because of the statement in the story:

"However, experts have questioned whether child traffickers or a childless couple are behind the disappearance, as they would have taken her younger siblings, who were with her at the time."

If you could get 7000 pounds selling a child why wouldn't you take all 3?? And if not all 3 (because you couldn't carry 3) then why not take the smallest? Or the 2 smallest?

Another thought I had (I know, I have alot of those :rolleyes: )

An anonymous poster on Aussie Mike's Blog said:

"Meanwhile, the McCanns continue to exploit their daughter. What message does this convey to someone who is considering using the same tactics as Gerry and Kate? What is there in place to stop the next greedy-minded family from exploiting their missing child? Nothing. (Thanks to the free pass given by, in this case, the British media.)"

That and the possibility that if we find out that the McCanns are involved in a cover-up then any case such as this in the future will be looked upon with suspicion, at the expense of a missing or abducted child. That may be the biggest tr