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michelle
06-27-2007, 07:20 AM
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,286835,00.html Maybe rosie was just dressing her up? I dont know, the news seems to think it was for attention???

BhamMama
06-27-2007, 09:51 AM
As I said to my daughter yesterday, Rosie is N.U.T.S!

Using your kids in any ploy, art, political or for attention is a serious disorder. She needs help.

jubie
06-27-2007, 11:06 AM
I think its sick. If Rosie wants to make people aware of children fighting wars around the world then she should get a picture of THOSE kids and post it on her blog.

I don't usually have an opinion when it comes to Rosie but taking that picutre of her child is WRONG, (In my opinion of course)




Jubie

Rino
06-27-2007, 11:23 AM
Poor kid

Masterj
06-27-2007, 11:25 AM
The bullet belt is not real, it is fake.

Mira
06-27-2007, 12:01 PM
vivi looks bored stiff to me...

shopper
06-27-2007, 12:24 PM
I think Rosie said that she didn't dress Vivi up like that. She was playing with her brothers and was wearing that and Rosie though it was a good picture.

I don't thinks she's using her kid to make a political statement. It is what it is, a kid playing and a parent taking a photo. I don't agree with everything Rosie says, but this is being blown out of proportion IMO.

luvbeaches
06-27-2007, 12:52 PM
I think Rosie is nuts. Political statement or not, how did it get on TV? I feel sorry for her children. I really do. :(

shopper
06-27-2007, 01:13 PM
I think Rosie is nuts. Political statement or not, how did it get on TV? I feel sorry for her children. I really do. :(

It was on HER blog, probably taken from FoxNews or one of those tabloid shows. That's the thing, while everything on the 'net is pretty much open for public viewing, those that hate Rosie flock to her blog and report what she's writing there. She doesn't send that stuff in, they come to her. And then they twist it to fit their agenda and bash her for it.

Her blog is where she writes her thoughts and answer questions. It's funny that the people that hate her can't stay away from there.

shopper
06-27-2007, 01:25 PM
Here's some interesting q & a on Rosie's blog from about an hour ago:

joanne writes:

why do u do this blog, subject yourself to this negativity?

listen jo
this is my own tv station
free
4 all who seek it out
i have done no interviews
if u r here - it is because u chose to come

this is the newset
and best
art form

**************************************

Crystal writes:

Pic of Viv -cool
I used to play cowboys & Indians w/ my brothers & cousins - I was the nurse for whichever injured party-HA-but they didnt give me much time - the boys had more fighting to do. Smile

she is sometimes the army nurse
walks around with a roll of toilet paper
tending the others
***************************************

Jen writes:

Sadness in her eyes….whether she is pretending or if she is putting on the farce for you…as a parent I can see it in her eyes as if I was looking into my own child’s. Shame on you.

u c what u want 2 c
***************************************

Elly writes:

I really believe in what you stand for: peace. The picture did not evoke that, instead I felt hopelessness. As a mother, I found it very disturbing. Just being honest.

art cannot hurt u
only make u think
and feel

**************************************

leslie writes:

My 4 year old has discovered star wars. he runs around the house shooting everthing in sight. It’s part of growing up. Everyone needs to relax. A child’s creativity is a blessing

yes
wild 2 me

ziggy
06-27-2007, 01:26 PM
I think Rosie said that she didn't dress Vivi up like that. She was playing with her brothers and was wearing that and Rosie though it was a good picture.

I don't thinks she's using her kid to make a political statement. It is what it is, a kid playing and a parent taking a photo. I don't agree with everything Rosie says, but this is being blown out of proportion IMO.

I agree Shopper! Rosie is one of my LEAST favorite people, however, kids play dress up and boys tend to want to play army and little sisters immitate big brothers (I did). Playing with toy guns is really getting people all paranoid for no reason. When I was growing up, if there were no toy guns, we used sticks...Cowboys and Indians etc.

I'm glad to see she isn't feminizing her boys and allowing them to be kids.

I will say that Rosie's not too bright (again, no news to me) if it didn't even cross her mind what her fans' reactions might be to the picture, considering her anti-gun stance. It does show that she is a bit of a hypocrite on the subject but most of us already know that those who don't think others should have something think it's perfectly OK for them. The government and they know what's best for us and it doesn't apply to them. Same ole, same ole.

shopper
06-27-2007, 01:33 PM
I agree Shopper! Rosie is one of my LEAST favorite people, however, kids play dress up and boys tend to want to play army and little sisters immitate big brothers (I did). Playing with toy guns is really getting people all paranoid for no reason. When I was growing up, if there were no toy guns, we used sticks...Cowboys and Indians etc.

I'm glad to see she isn't feminizing her boys and allowing them to be kids.

I will say that Rosie's not too bright (again, no news to me) if it didn't even cross her mind what her fans' reactions might be to the picture, considering her anti-gun stance. It does show that she is a bit of a hypocrite on the subject but most of us already know that those who don't think others should have something think it's perfectly OK for them. The government and they know what's best for us and it doesn't apply to them. Same ole, same ole.


Well, with some people Rosie can't win no matter what she does. If she allows her boys to play with their sister's Easy Bake oven, some will say she's trying to force them into being gay, as if.

While I don't think she dressed up Vivi and made her pose, I agree with you that she knew it would get a reaction. And boy did it ever!

Rino
06-27-2007, 01:43 PM
I think Rosie said that she didn't dress Vivi up like that. She was playing with her brothers and was wearing that and Rosie though it was a good picture.

I don't thinks she's using her kid to make a political statement. It is what it is, a kid playing and a parent taking a photo. I don't agree with everything Rosie says, but this is being blown out of proportion IMO.

In an e-mail to The ShowBuzz, she said:
"They don't watch TV – this is how they play/the boys had fatigues and were playing war/the girls wanted some/they run around the house with water guns/shooting each other." (snip)

She is a liar, kids who don't watch tv don't dress like the Taliban. Vocal gun proponants don't have such "artillary" around to play with, those were no water gun bullets.

Pinkhammer
06-27-2007, 01:45 PM
Rosie is putting her four terrific kids at terrible risk by maintaining that public photo page at Flickr.com. Any potential stalker or kidnapper can go to Flickr.com and put "Rosie O'Donnell" in the search, and pull up dozens of photos of Rosie's house, kids, cars, dogs, etc. I don't care how many bodyguards she has...she is practically giving an open invitation to net stalkers.

Look at what happened to David Letterman recently. These wealthy, high-profile people should take extra privacy measures to keep their innocent children safe. This is a very dangerous world we live in!

evelyn24
06-27-2007, 01:55 PM
In an e-mail to The ShowBuzz, she said:
"They don't watch TV – this is how they play/the boys had fatigues and were playing war/the girls wanted some/they run around the house with water guns/shooting each other." (snip)

She is a liar, kids who don't watch tv don't dress like the Taliban. Vocal gun proponants don't have such "artillary" around to play with, those were no water gun bullets.

Exactly, this kid isn't playing army, she's playing "FREEDOM FIGHTER", other wise known as a terrorist to sane people.

Also, why would Rosie respond by saying "art doesn't hurt you" and "art provokes", if this was just a pic of her daughter playing with her sons.
Clearly she is trying to make a political statement.

hipmamajen
06-27-2007, 03:31 PM
I think I'm more disturbed by Rosie's poor spelling and grammar than I am by the picture of her daughter. Why should I take her seriously when she writes like that?

"u c what u want 2 c"

Come on, Rosie, at least try to communicate like an adult.

luvbeaches
06-27-2007, 03:37 PM
It was on HER blog, probably taken from FoxNews or one of those tabloid shows. That's the thing, while everything on the 'net is pretty much open for public viewing, those that hate Rosie flock to her blog and report what she's writing there. She doesn't send that stuff in, they come to her. And then they twist it to fit their agenda and bash her for it.

Her blog is where she writes her thoughts and answer questions. It's funny that the people that hate her can't stay away from there.

I wouldn't have put a picture like that on my blog. She had to know that someone would see it and where it would end up.

Rosie is a nasty, bitter woman. The people that dislikle her probably go to the blog to take a look. Sort of looking at a trainwreck...you know you shouldn't, but you do anyway.

I do feel bad for their children.

luvbeaches
06-27-2007, 03:39 PM
Clearly she is trying to make a political statement.

She is, and she's using her daughter as her pawn. And that's what I find really disturbing. She can shoot her mouth off all she wants...whatever...but now she's using her children, and that's wrong.

Taximom
06-27-2007, 03:54 PM
So far she's been in the news at least once a month for 2007. *yawn* Wonder what it will be in July.

pedinurse
06-27-2007, 04:06 PM
yeah, i put this over on the rosie thread yesterday - i just couldn't believe it! i didn't know wether to post it here or the bizarre and off beat forum!!! that is so messed up - i can't believe she did that.

southcitymom
06-27-2007, 05:16 PM
.....I'm glad to see she isn't feminizing her boys and allowing them to be kids......



What the heck does that mean? How do you feminize a little boy - I'd really like to know.....:waitasec: my two sons play with plenty of toys that would be considered boyish and plenty of toys that would be considered girlish. I'm just glad they are playing.

I love watching them play pirates and fight with their swords and I love watching them play house and take care of dolls and stuffed animals.

And I love the fact that my almost 7-year-old wanted hot pink swim shoes and tells anyone at camp who gives him grief to "leave him along because he likes the color."

ETA: I think Rosie's daughter is way cute - have no idea about the pictures orgins or of she is trying to make a political statement.

capps
06-27-2007, 05:39 PM
I just don't get her ... always drama and attention,settle down for a few seconds Rosie and take a calm breath. Geez.

shopper
06-27-2007, 05:40 PM
I still don't get what the big deal is. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I don't think those bullets are real. Is a little girl not allowed to play something considered boyish? An innocent game of "war", that MOST kids play, she's now imitating terrorists or the Taliban?

The only thing I think she's being hypocritical about is that her kids obviously have fake (benefit of the doubt) bullets. She's so anti-gun that I'd think she'd not allow anything of the kind. Of course, that's not to stop the kids from having their own minds and using a stick or anything else their imagination comes up with as a gun. That's just normal kid stuff.

I'm not being argumentative, I just don't understand this outrage. And not just here either, Ann Coulter said that Rosie had set gay adoption back 20 years.

luvbeaches
06-27-2007, 05:45 PM
I'm not going to give her the benefit of the doubt because of the long list of nutty things she's done and said. But that just me. I can't stand the woman and I feel sad for her children to have to live with a whacko mom like that.

Masterj
06-27-2007, 05:52 PM
I still don't get what the big deal is. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, I don't think those bullets are real. Is a little girl not allowed to play something considered boyish? An innocent game of "war", that MOST kids play, she's now imitating terrorists or the Taliban?

The only thing I think she's being hypocritical about is that her kids obviously have fake (benefit of the doubt) bullets. She's so anti-gun that I'd think she'd not allow anything of the kind. Of course, that's not to stop the kids from having their own minds and using a stick or anything else their imagination comes up with as a gun. That's just normal kid stuff.

I'm not being argumentative, I just don't understand this outrage. And not just here either, Ann Coulter said that Rosie had set gay adoption back 20 years.

I am with you shopper. I also find it amusing how much time and energy people who dislike Rosie waste to disparage her. I don't think people get that when they call her nasty, loudmouthed and bitter, they don't sound much different themselves when slamming her.

Autumn2004
06-27-2007, 05:55 PM
The only thing I think she's being hypocritical about is that her kids obviously have fake (benefit of the doubt) bullets. She's so anti-gun that I'd think she'd not allow anything of the kind.
.

This is one of the main reasons I dont like her at all was her stance on weapons and how she ambushed tom selleck. It screams out controversy to me, she will do *anything* for attention.

luvbeaches
06-27-2007, 06:10 PM
This is one of the main reasons I dont like her at all was her stance on weapons and how she ambushed tom selleck. It screams out controversy to me, she will do *anything* for attention.

You're right...she will do anything for attention.

White Rain
06-27-2007, 06:10 PM
I don't care either way about what she dressed her in, but that is one cute kid!

Masterj
06-27-2007, 06:11 PM
I don't care either way about what she dressed her in, but that is one cute kid!

I agree. Absolutely adorable!

shopper
06-27-2007, 06:14 PM
I agree. Absolutely adorable!

She's is isn't she, and the spitting image of Kelli. Beautiful child.

All of Rosie's kids are adorable and from what little I can gather, happy and well-adjusted. I think they are her life-lines.

rayray
06-27-2007, 06:23 PM
Do you think this picture is any less sad?
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x300/kristinat76/_529532_childsoldier150.jpg

Bee Happy
06-27-2007, 06:23 PM
The image was part of a video she had of Vivi. The song playing was Girls just wanna have fun, and it featured pictures of Vivi in many princess outfits and girly clothes, at the end she's dressed in the war clothes.

Masterj
06-27-2007, 06:34 PM
Do you think this picture is any less sad?
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x300/kristinat76/_529532_childsoldier150.jpg

EXACTLY! Why aren't people up in arms over children soldiers?

shopper
06-27-2007, 06:37 PM
Do you think this picture is any less sad?
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x300/kristinat76/_529532_childsoldier150.jpg


Great point Rayray. Where is the outrage for this?

I'm going to bet that the child in the picture you posted has a worse life than Rosie's kids. A worse life than any of us can imagine.

2luvmy
06-27-2007, 07:35 PM
The image was part of a video she had of Vivi. The song playing was Girls just wanna have fun, and it featured pictures of Vivi in many princess outfits and girly clothes, at the end she's dressed in the war clothes.

That's why I think this is being blown out of proportion. This was a series of outfits in a video, its not like she dressed her up in the gear just for a photo shoot.

Rosies can be anti-gun but still let her children play with toy guns. Kinda like vegetarians letting their kids eat meat.

luvbeaches
06-27-2007, 07:37 PM
As I said to my daughter yesterday, Rosie is N.U.T.S!

Using your kids in any ploy, art, political or for attention is a serious disorder. She needs help.


Rosie is just a whacko. And I feel for those kids. But I am glad she's off The View...and I read where the ratings were up, since her departure.

Autumn2004
06-27-2007, 07:51 PM
Rosies can be anti-gun but still let her children play with toy guns. Kinda like vegetarians letting their kids eat meat.

I am a vegan my daughter and husband are not although they are slowly converting. If I was the type of vegan which shouted how horrible the slaughter of animals are yes I can see your point of view, but I dont I only do it for health reasons.

Instead of just feeling guns are wrong for her family she *screams* it to the world that no one should own one and attacks others who use them for hunting so yes this is being very hypocritical.

Bee Happy
06-27-2007, 07:57 PM
Didn't she used to be the "Queen of Nice?" What happened to that??

MyLilElves
06-27-2007, 08:03 PM
I believe she's made a huge difference in the lives of many through charity and then some. Large amounts of her own money. I'd say thats still being pretty nice. Many of you may think she is a lot of things, but one thing she isn't is uncaring, especially about our country's children. I think she's very misunderstood and often the things she says are taken out of context.

Mimi
06-27-2007, 08:15 PM
I personally don't condone "war toys" but do believe that just like in the Paris Hilton case...the press has made much to do about nothing.... slow news days must be abundant because this is all we see lately....how about something worth debating or conversing about? Something concrete, deep thinking, soul searching and perhaps life changing? Now THAT would be refreshing! Sigh! :doh:

txsvicki
06-28-2007, 12:34 AM
This is one of the main reasons I dont like her at all was her stance on weapons and how she ambushed tom selleck. It screams out controversy to me, she will do *anything* for attention.

She sure did ambush Tom Selleck and her viewers at the same time. I tuned in that day thinking I was going to see another cute friendly talk show and saw that good looking man being humiliated by that woman. I never watched her show again either. I don't like being tricked for someone's politicial or self promotion. Anyone that anti gun shouldn't let their kids play with guns. I think Rosie is a big liar and doesn't really stand for much of anything except herself.

eve
06-28-2007, 06:13 PM
You're right...she will do anything for attention.

I agree. With all the talk about her being considered as the new host of The Price is Right, I am really wondering how that would influence the Barbie doll models that work that show? How will they look and dress if Rosie is the host? LOL!:D

Eve

BhamMama
06-28-2007, 07:24 PM
EXACTLY! Why aren't people up in arms over children soldiers?


How does anyone know we are not? Children as militants, Dafur, female circumcision, ritual stoning, they are all high on my list. And not just a list I read about, one I actively do something about. Petitions, passing along the word, sit ins if needed, money always. Whatever it takes.

But really, what she says and what she does is two different things. Just because we don't like her does not mean we don't get upset over other more important issues. She puts it out there, so she gets what she deserves. Same as if I were to post my kids pics on the net for all to see and someone took offense at what they were doing or dressed as.

She's rude, crude, loud and now, a hypocrite. Not exactly a role model I'd like to have around for my children.

ziggy
06-28-2007, 08:06 PM
What the heck does that mean? How do you feminize a little boy - I'd really like to know.....:waitasec: my two sons play with plenty of toys that would be considered boyish and plenty of toys that would be considered girlish. I'm just glad they are playing.

I love watching them play pirates and fight with their swords and I love watching them play house and take care of dolls and stuffed animals.

And I love the fact that my almost 7-year-old wanted hot pink swim shoes and tells anyone at camp who gives him grief to "leave him along because he likes the color."

ETA: I think Rosie's daughter is way cute - have no idea about the pictures orgins or of she is trying to make a political statement.

By that I just mean NOT allowing boys to be boys if they want to - as in prohibiting them from playing with guns or fighting with swords like pirates, or being in martial arts or playing with army men etc. I personally know a parent who absolutely denies that behavior to her boy and ONLY him to play with dolls and be sensitive. He really want trucks. He's obsessed with trucks. She doesn't like it.

I know that some parents discourage boy-like behavior. Obviously you do not. I agree that if boys want pink swim trunks and to play house and take care of babies and a father would totally prohibit that, it would be wrong too.

I personally feel in GENERAL, mind you, there are many exceptions, that boys have been raised like wimps lately.

BOYS GONE MILD.

ziggy
06-28-2007, 08:11 PM
And while we're on the subject of Rosie and adoption... how does she get 4 (is it 4 ? I don't follow that closely but scratch my head and wonder) white BABIES to adopt. There are families waiting for just one. I have clients that are well off (he is a biggie at Lucas Films) and they could not adopt in the states so they adopted two Chinese girl babies. I think foreign adoptions are wonderful, but why does Rosie get an advantage? I don't think it's fair personally.

Flame away. I'm sure I'm not supposed to judge that, but I'm sure there are a lot of couples wondering the same thing.

PSUfan
06-28-2007, 08:16 PM
This comment seen on the web,

It looks like something out of the Patty Hearst Starter Kit.

I'm not sure why an anti gun activist would allow her children to play with bullet belts. Unless of course, she is trying to use her child to make a political statement of some sort?

I liked Rosies old show, but I have never watched The View, or gone to Rosies blog. Who can read that?? The cellphone shorthand. Is it supposed to seem poetic? blech!!

PSUfan
06-28-2007, 08:19 PM
And while we're on the subject of Rosie and adoption... how does she get 4 (is it 4 ? I don't follow that closely but scratch my head and wonder) white BABIES to adopt. There are families waiting for just one. I have clients that are well off (he is a biggie at Lucas Films) and they could not adopt in the states so they adopted two Chinese girl babies. I think foreign adoptions are wonderful, but why does Rosie get an advantage? I don't think it's fair personally.

Flame away. I'm sure I'm not supposed to judge that, but I'm sure there are a lot of couples wondering the same thing.Maybe they were open adoptions and the birth mothers selected her? My sister and her husband were selected (and completed adoptions) by birth mothers twice, and were selected a third time, before they decided their family was complete, but were unable to take on twins.

luvbeaches
06-28-2007, 08:43 PM
I agree. With all the talk about her being considered as the new host of The Price is Right, I am really wondering how that would influence the Barbie doll models that work that show? How will they look and dress if Rosie is the host? LOL!:D

Eve

It seems like Bob Barker did a bit of back-peddling in the end. I think the entire show would have changed...from the models...to the tone of show.

And look what happend to the ratings on The View after she left...lol..they went up. TPIR has been around for a long time, and I am sure the producers want it to be around for a long time to come...and we all know that Rosie would drive that show into the ground.

luvbeaches
06-28-2007, 08:47 PM
And while we're on the subject of Rosie and adoption... how does she get 4 (is it 4 ? I don't follow that closely but scratch my head and wonder) white BABIES to adopt. There are families waiting for just one. I have clients that are well off (he is a biggie at Lucas Films) and they could not adopt in the states so they adopted two Chinese girl babies. I think foreign adoptions are wonderful, but why does Rosie get an advantage? I don't think it's fair personally.

Flame away. I'm sure I'm not supposed to judge that, but I'm sure there are a lot of couples wondering the same thing.

That's a question several of my friends have who have been trying to adopt. Maybe she was selected by the mother's...but why? I would not want my baby placed into a home with such a volatile woman. I pity Kelly should she want out of the relationship...she can kiss those kids goodbye...including the one she gave birth to.

Texana
06-28-2007, 09:16 PM
I don't know of any four year old who dresses up in fake bullets and a head wrap. I don't know of anyone who encourages that, either. '

I think that children should be allowed to be children, and that means rows of ammunition should not be anything they find attractive to wear for dress up.

Autumn2004
06-28-2007, 09:46 PM
She sure did ambush Tom Selleck and her viewers at the same time. I tuned in that day thinking I was going to see another cute friendly talk show and saw that good looking man being humiliated by that woman. I never watched her show again either. I don't like being tricked for someone's politicial or self promotion. Anyone that anti gun shouldn't let their kids play with guns. I think Rosie is a big liar and doesn't really stand for much of anything except herself.

I think she is a big liar too, Who knows what she really is about?

southcitymom
06-28-2007, 10:43 PM
By that I just mean NOT allowing boys to be boys if they want to - as in prohibiting them from playing with guns or fighting with swords like pirates, or being in martial arts or playing with army men etc. I personally know a parent who absolutely denies that behavior to her boy and ONLY him to play with dolls and be sensitive. He really want trucks. He's obsessed with trucks. She doesn't like it.

I know that some parents discourage boy-like behavior. Obviously you do not. I agree that if boys want pink swim trunks and to play house and take care of babies and a father would totally prohibit that, it would be wrong too.

I personally feel in GENERAL, mind you, there are many exceptions, that boys have been raised like wimps lately.

BOYS GONE MILD.

Boys gone mild...that made me laugh!

I do think some parents can get very overwrought about their kids playthings. I just don't understand it. The child should be exposed to wide variety of toys and not too many of them, and play how he/she wishes to play. Directing a child's play to the point that the child is only allowed to play with dolls and be sensitive is incredibly controlling.

Both my sons made swords out of everything - sticks, toilet paper rolls, etc... - before they ever had any toy swords.

Taximom
06-28-2007, 10:53 PM
"boys gone mild" LOL

My sister in law thought she could make her boys play with girls toys, and they just won't. I don't understand why someone feels the need to control what toys their child plays with, but that's another story anyway. I have 3 girls and a boy. Two daughters like(d) the girl stuff. One daughter likes all my sons toys. (Yeah, that goes over well.) Hmm. We sure discuss a whole lot of different subjects when Rosie comes up! :D

I thought Barker toned down his comments as well. In the first place, I was totally shocked by his initial comments. I thought he only liked girly-girls! Seeing how he has treated them, I guess he wouldn't want to see one in power. My second thought was that current sponsors might have pulled out if Rosie replaced Barker.

CaliKid
06-29-2007, 12:12 AM
When I was about 8-9 years old, I lived in a neighborhood where my only friends were boys. My sister and I played boy-type games of guns and war. I would've died and gone to heaven to wear a gunbelt like Vivi's. I'd be the envy of everyone on my street.

But that was many years ago, and times change. Whether Vivi chose to wear that get-up herself or not, the picture is in bad taste.

ziggy
06-29-2007, 02:09 PM
Yes, the open adoption sounds probable. I can see why someone would want a celebrity to have their child, but celebrities aren't always the best parents just because they have money! Like many of you said, kids will just invent toys out of whatever, so they don't even need the real deal.

I was a tomboy because I grew up around all boys in my "hood". I wanted to fit in and play so I did what they did. I was a redneck girl with horses and such, but at that magical time, I started to naturally become more of a "girl" and now I'm a full-fledged girly girl BUT, I still watch Football, UFC and the Bruce Lee specials on Spike!

It looks like something out of the Patty Hearst Starter Kit.

That's funny.:clap: