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PrayersForMaura
08-12-2007, 10:01 PM
Pre-teen modeling site is raising an uproar (http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTkkWu79GXlQB2wvQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjcXBoZjE wBHBvcwMzBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=12u17opoq/EXP=1187056790/**http%3a//www.tampabays10.com/news/local/article.aspx%3fs=rss%26storyid=61046)
Investigators say there is nothing they can do to stop a central Florida man from putting pictures of scantily clad, pre-teen models on a website.
PSUfan
08-12-2007, 10:05 PM
David Hardman is a photographer who has created a website of girls ages 10 - 17. Hardman says it is an online modeling website, so girls can get exposure Sounds slimey, but the title is a bit deceptive... I would have to see the pics to form an opinion. Any worse than the JonBenet modeling shots?
sherri79
08-12-2007, 11:02 PM
Sounds slimey, but the title is a bit deceptive... I would have to see the pics to form an opinion. Any worse than the JonBenet modeling shots?http://www.wftv.com/news/13868766/detail.html
click the video link and they have a few pics.
SadieMae
08-12-2007, 11:06 PM
When I was in the advertising agency business, anyone we used that was under 18 had to have their parents sign a model release form to use their image in ads. Did these parents sign one? If so, the parents are to blame also. If parents signed and allowed these photographs, they are disgusting!
Amraann
08-12-2007, 11:26 PM
When I was in the advertising agency business, anyone we used that was under 18 had to have their parents sign a model release form to use their image in ads. Did these parents sign one? If so, the parents are to blame also. If parents signed and allowed these photographs, they are disgusting!
That is still the law in Florida!!
SO yes the parents agreed...
txsvicki
08-12-2007, 11:29 PM
I'd like to know just what type of exposure the girls are expected to get on a website and why they have to be scantily clad.
sherri79
08-12-2007, 11:36 PM
these little girls have been raised on bratz, and paris and america's next top model(every time a model wont go nude she gets the ax). they want to be famous. they want to be grown. sexy = famous and grown in their minds. parents should know better. after the post on moms who will rent their kids out to a pedo i guess i shouldnt be shocked by the fact the parents signed consent.
SadieMae
08-12-2007, 11:45 PM
That is still the law in Florida!!
SO yes the parents agreed...
Well then I think the outrage is misdirected...it should be at the parents, not the photographer or his website.
I agree Sheri...some parents do not see or don't care how their kid achieves fame. Shame on them.
deanws
08-12-2007, 11:49 PM
Can anyone find the website? I'd like to see how bad the pics are.:( The link wouldn't work for me.
Elphaba
08-12-2007, 11:49 PM
I just saw this on our local news and they blurred out a lot of the images because they were too racey to show. From what I could see, as a parent, I am utterly bothered by it... these are kids modeling thongs and the such. Doing photography, I could not lower myself to the gutter to do work such as that... and I would turn down ANY parent that would come to me to do such shoots. And that is what gets me the most: what parent in their right mind would allow their kids to be dressed and photographed that way? A 9 year old doing "sexy" poses is acceptable? to a parent?!?!?!?!?! UGH!!!
I won't even go into the pagaent sites that do the picture makeovers of pagaent participants... if they aren't making the girls look like freaky dolls with their "retouching" of the images, they are dressing them to look like miniature adults. Gah, you will NEVER find me shooting kiddie pagaents... and I refuse to photoshop any child to look glammed up or doll like... it's creepy as all get out.
sherri79
08-12-2007, 11:58 PM
Can anyone find the website? I'd like to see how bad the pics are.:( The link wouldn't work for me.i googled his name and after a couple pages i found a link. when i clicked the link it said i had to down load a file. i did not down load. the pictures i saw had all the girls faces covered and even some whole pics blurred. most just looked like a sexy model pic. then u remember the girl is 12 or 13... 1 that bothered me the most are 1 with a girl standing up. she has her legs spread and her arms over her head. she is wearing a 1 peice. it is v shaped. the opening starts below her belly button and she is wearing 2 white garter belts. i have heard this called child erotica instead of child porn.
deanws
08-13-2007, 12:02 AM
i googled his name and after a couple pages i found a link. when i clicked the link it said i had to down load a file. i did not down load. the pictures i saw had all the girls faces covered and even some whole pics blurred. most just looked like a sexy model pic. then u remember the girl is 12 or 13... 1 that bothered me the most are 1 with a girl standing up. she has her legs spread and her arms over her head. she is wearing a 1 peice. it is v shaped. the opening starts below her belly button and she is wearing 2 white garter belts. i have heard this called child erotica instead of child porn.:( How very sad. What the heck is wrong with these parents!!?!?!:mad:
sherri79
08-13-2007, 12:08 AM
i found a way on to the site but i am not sure i should try and post a link. so here is what i will do. i am going to post a description of 1 of the dvd i saw on the site.
Cute Kyra Modeling DVD! Our youngest new model for 2007 is a local girl from Central Florida. Her family saw our latest "models wanted" posting on a model talent website and contacted us for more information. And here she is! We worked with her Mom to get correct sizing and bought some bikinis at local surf shops and mall stores. Kyra's resume includes some local theatre productions and radio voice over commercials, so she is very natural and comfortable in front of the camera, which makes for a great shoot. Cute Kyra and her Mom showed up promptly on time to start their session which is appreciated!
The model shoot starts with a brief interview with Kyra in her favorite tee shirt and short skirt, Kyra talks about some of her favorite things to do. Then we go to the living room area to finish the first set. The second set has Kyra modeling a brown surfer top and bikini bottom on our stage set. We've added a railing for the girls to hold on to. The stage set involves more motion and walking, twirling and dancing with some casual conversation going on between ourselves. The third set in our mirror room has Kyra in a pink catsuit that we had to trim a bit as it was still a bit big for her, as she is small for her age. (10yo with a birthday this summer) The fourth set was a cute red bikini on our sofa area and our last short set outside before the break was a blue bikini ordered from Hawaii with a little hula hoop action, some posing and water spray from Mom! Kyra does a super job.
We took our lunch break before heading to the beach for the final sets which include Kyra in a blue speedo one piece on her own boogie board and playing in the sand, and boy can she dig in the sand! I thought she was going to China! Of course she didn't want to leave! The final modeling session was done at a park in the striped short set at a pier that runs into the river. Kyra was desperately looking for a dolphin to show up like Flipper! We didn't see any so I added one to her DVD artwork!
A very nice visual portfolio with 10yo Kyra. We hope to continue to work with Kyra as she gets older, as she's a real cutie!
Pictures and video capture images are the actual DVD content and scene locations. Our all day sMedia hoot was shot at a private residence and public beach areas during May 2007. This 2 Disc Modeling DVD is available for $ 34.99 on DVD-R
sherri79
08-13-2007, 12:11 AM
now i am going to post the link then report myself right away. that way a mod can look at this and see if they thin it shold be removed. after all the trouble it was for me to get on the site the link may not even work. this is 1 of those things i think a mod should decided.
mod please delete this link if you feel the need. if i went about this wrong please let me know. i do not want to violate any TOS.
link removed til a mod says it is ok.
SadieMae
08-13-2007, 12:14 AM
OK...I'm going to be :sick: :sick: !!!!!
Her mother needs her AZZ whupped!!!
philamena
08-13-2007, 12:15 AM
I watched the news clip and IMO this weasle is using the young, underaged girls to shoot semi-porn photographs. :behindbar
Little girls in undergarmets, shown straddling chairs and laying in what some consider sexual positions is porn iMo.
If the girl's parents signed and ok'd the photographs, they along with the perve/photog should be arrested!:banghead::doh:
again this is just my opinion. And you can bet your arse that child molesters are buying and looking at the so called modeling dvds.
sherri79
08-13-2007, 12:19 AM
i dont see any mods on right now so i am going to remove the link and repost it only if a mod contacts me and says it is ok. i know it is legal but it is just to creepy to leave up right now.
Shazza
08-13-2007, 12:19 AM
Why would you need to see pre teen kids posing in G Strings, in lingerie, in baths, or on beds. I find it disgusting. Kids cant be just kids anymore, what happened to playing with barbie dolls. There is just too much stress being put on our kids today. JUST LET KIDS BE KIDS.
philamena
08-13-2007, 12:22 AM
Well said! bravo Shazza:clap:
Reannan
08-13-2007, 01:01 AM
I am horrified....and that takes a lot at this point! This guys needs to be taken down!
Reannan
08-13-2007, 01:16 AM
These girls on this site are WAY too young to be posing like they are. They would OBVIOUSLY need parental permission, and any parent who gives permission should be tied to Dave and thrown into the sea. This is NOT modelling. I have a daughter who is gorgeous, and who wants to model. She has been involved in pageants at the High School level (I would not let her do it earlier), and I would support her truly being in the modelling industry, but I would NEVER, EVER, support her posing like these girls are. I also have a friend who is a stripper with a webcam website....she hates it, and I have tried to get her to get a new career for a while now, so I know porn when I see it, and I just saw it at Dave's site.
Reannan
08-13-2007, 01:23 AM
I just noticed Dave's name: Dave Hardman! Geesh! Could you get anymore cheesy or slutty?? I also notice when I went to his website from googling "his name, models, photography", that there was a temporary blip at the bottom of my screen for a site that I did not link to called edited till the moderators say OK. It must have put a cookie on my computer of something. I went and looked, and it was even more horrifying because some of the girls looked to be 8!!!!! WTF???? I just don't get this whole child porn thing. What is it about these little girls that turns these dirty old men on? I wonder if it has something to do with the thought that they can't get AIDS from these children? If they somehow feel safe with them? I also found it alarming that on Dave's front page, there had been 31,268 visits. How are we going to stop this?
Reannan
08-13-2007, 01:37 AM
That trulycute site bothered me so much, I just submitted it to the FBI website. God, I wish I could blast all these sick people to another dimension! God!!!:furious: How DARE they steal the innocence of our children!!! How DARE they!!!
Shazza
08-13-2007, 01:42 AM
That trulycute site bothered me so much, I just submitted it to the FBI website. God, I wish I could blast all these sick people to another dimension! God!!!:furious: How DARE they steal the innocence of our children!!! How DARE they!!!
What really annoys me Reannan, is that these young girls have their parents permission and are there watching it whilst the photos are being taken, what are they thinking, these parents should be charged with child endangerment. It is truly sickening.
sherri79
08-13-2007, 02:31 AM
ok 2 things.
1 i really did not know what to do with the link. i am sure reporting myself would have covered my arse but it just felt so creepy to have it up. i know i wanted to see the pics to judge for myself how bad was this site. was it just people looking for something when it was innocent or was it some1 trying to make something innocent into some pervs dream come true. i know alot of people here like to investigate stories and decided for themselves based on the evidence they can see. nothing is wrong with that and the site is legal. it is sick to have a site set up to turn men on looking at little kids even if they are in a bathing suit. i dont want to be part of helping a perv find his site. so i took the cowards way out. i will let a mod decided what i should do.
2. the second thing i wanted to speak about is this. Well then I think the outrage is misdirected...it should be at the parents, not the photographer or his website.
i agree to a point. i think there is enough blame to go around. this guy paid these people 500 dollars and they let him turn their kids into fantasy material for a pedo. so for fame or cash they pimped their kids. these "parents" are sick. the photographer is sick. just because their is a loop hole in the law and he can dont mean a thing. if he was not sick and evil he would not be doing this. the men who buy the pics are sick and evil. any man who gets his jollies from looking at little kids needs to be shot. the law makers can take some blame here to. both sides. no politics please. they both can play with words. they both can twist laws to fit their needs. they find ways around financing laws. they make laws just to hurt the other party. yet somehow they can not come up with a way to stop this. no law that says a man can not pay a 10 year old to pose in a sexual way. no law that says he can not sell those pictures even if a child is involved. no law that says he cant not put up her sexy photo with her name and age and where she lives. i think we can blame a few people on this 1.:furious:
rayray
08-13-2007, 08:16 AM
ok.. so I googled the guy. I found "the" site, and it's DEFINATELY kiddie erotica. One of the first pics on the site is a little girl in a dress sitting indian style, with her panties showing. How freaking disgusting is this guy? he definately needs to be shut down. He also had some different websites including "bikini and fashion" models who were seemingly "of-age", but SCANTILY clad.. and i mean, a triangle of fabric covering their privates.
Reannan
08-13-2007, 09:39 AM
That trulycute site bothered me so much, I just submitted it to the FBI website. God, I wish I could blast all these sick people to another dimension! God!!!:furious: How DARE they steal the innocence of our children!!! How DARE they!!!
I have received a response back from the FBI, and they have given me this advice:
"THIS IS NOT AN AUTOMATED RESPONSE
Thank you for your submission to the FBI Internet Tip Line regarding child
pornography. As you may know, the Internet has become one of the most prevalent techniques used by pedophiles to share illegal photographic images of minors and to lure them into illicit sexual relationships. The FBI is proactively attempting to identify, track down, arrest, and prosecute those that engage in the possession, production, and dissemination of child pornography.
To report sexual exploitation of children, including Web sites like the one that you reported to us, you may contact the Crimes Against Children Coordinator at your local FBI Field Office directly, or visit the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's (NCMEC) CyberTipline at www.cybertipline.com (http://www.cybertipline.com/) or www.missingkids.com (http://www.missingkids.com), or call NCMEC at 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678). The CyberTipline allows individuals to file a report by submitting an online form. This form is then reviewed by analysts and forwarded to law enforcement agencies including the FBI, the US Customs Service, the US Postal Inspection Service, and state and local police agencies. "
Amraann
08-13-2007, 10:25 AM
I think it is totally on the parents.
They are the ones who are suppose to be responsible for keeping their child safe.
sherri79
08-13-2007, 10:29 AM
I think it is totally on the parents.
They are the ones who are suppose to be responsible for keeping their child safe. dont get me wrong. i think the parents are just as guilty as if they had pimped their kid on a street corner. i just dont think the photographer or the pedo's looking at his site are innocent.
southcitymom
08-13-2007, 11:52 AM
these little girls have been raised on bratz, and paris and america's next top model(every time a model wont go nude she gets the ax). they want to be famous. they want to be grown. sexy = famous and grown in their minds. parents should know better. after the post on moms who will rent their kids out to a pedo i guess i shouldnt be shocked by the fact the parents signed consent.
Well then I think the outrage is misdirected...it should be at the parents, not the photographer or his website.
I agree with y'all. Society also needs to take a bigger look at itself - we sexualize females WAY too young.
Lady_Ford
08-14-2007, 12:59 AM
ok 2 things.
1 i really did not know what to do with the link. i am sure reporting myself would have covered my arse but it just felt so creepy to have it up. i know i wanted to see the pics to judge for myself how bad was this site. was it just people looking for something when it was innocent or was it some1 trying to make something innocent into some pervs dream come true. i know alot of people here like to investigate stories and decided for themselves based on the evidence they can see. nothing is wrong with that and the site is legal. it is sick to have a site set up to turn men on looking at little kids even if they are in a bathing suit. i dont want to be part of helping a perv find his site. so i took the cowards way out. i will let a mod decided what i should do.
2. the second thing i wanted to speak about is this. i agree to a point. i think there is enough blame to go around. this guy paid these people 500 dollars and they let him turn their kids into fantasy material for a pedo. so for fame or cash they pimped their kids. these "parents" are sick. the photographer is sick. just because their is a loop hole in the law and he can dont mean a thing. if he was not sick and evil he would not be doing this. the men who buy the pics are sick and evil. any man who gets his jollies from looking at little kids needs to be shot. the law makers can take some blame here to. both sides. no politics please. they both can play with words. they both can twist laws to fit their needs. they find ways around financing laws. they make laws just to hurt the other party. yet somehow they can not come up with a way to stop this. no law that says a man can not pay a 10 year old to pose in a sexual way. no law that says he can not sell those pictures even if a child is involved. no law that says he cant not put up her sexy photo with her name and age and where she lives. i think we can blame a few people on this 1.:furious:
We got different meanings totally, I took it to mean the parents paid him to sex up their kids!! Which is even worse, if this could get worse! :sick: :sick: :sick:
sherri79
08-14-2007, 01:04 AM
We got different meanings totally, I took it to mean the parents paid him to sex up their kids!! Which is even worse, if this could get worse! :sick: :sick: :sick: nope i have been to the site, he pays the parents 500 dollars and he will give them a copy of the pics. he then owns the pics and sells them on the web. they pimp the kids for 500 bucks. then he sells the dvd for 35 a pop.
SadieMae
08-14-2007, 01:43 AM
nope i have been to the site, he pays the parents 500 dollars and he will give them a copy of the pics. he then owns the pics and sells them on the web. they pimp the kids for 500 bucks. then he sells the dvd for 35 a pop.
I think these parents need to charged with something! Promoting child porn?What parent want's pictures like that of their kids! Disgusting!
dimples37398
08-14-2007, 09:06 AM
I really wonder if all these girls parents knew about these shoots for real or if the girls forged or got someone to forge the parents signatures. Surely all these girls parents can't be that screwed up. There are some photos of girls on there with bathing suits on and you can see through the tops completely. I would like to find these girls parents and send them links to the photo album with all of their daughters photos just to see if they knew. There is one girl on there who's album has been taken down or something, maybe her parents seen it.
gardenmom
08-14-2007, 09:15 AM
Wake up parents! How stupid can they be? These are not even professional photos. From what I saw in the video of the pictures they are in his messy home! Are these parents even present when the pics are taken? IMO they should be charged with something along with the photographer.
LisainWV
08-14-2007, 09:43 AM
Good Lord, are these mothers really this stupid??
Someone needs to order one of the DVD's - if he doesn't have content on there that crosses the line, I'd really be surprised!!
Texana
08-14-2007, 10:44 AM
The photographer is a predator preying on both children and their parents. He's using the parents unbalanced need to "sell" their children as models or the next tv star, while at the same time using the immoral needs of pedophiles who will look at these photos (I guarantee no real talent agent or model agency is looking at this website--anybody in the legit business of child models is going to stay far, far away from anything that even hints of child porn.)
Once upon a time, we believed in protecting our children and enforcing basic morality within our communities. Now if it's not an actual crime, it's fine.
It just makes me sick.
dimples37398
08-14-2007, 10:58 AM
This sickens me as well, I am not sure what these parents are thinking, or either how he scammed them into letting him take their kids photos. I don't see how any parent knowing the whole truth about this guy and what he does with the video/photos would even think about letting their child do this. I am not sure we are getting the whole complete story and I can't wait to see if there is more to come. This is sickening and especially with the littlest girl that it shows on there. Some of the poses and outfits he has her in are completely disgusting and revolting....I wonder if he has any kids or is married.....gross gross gross...............I am gonna email the parents somehow.........
Cheetah
08-14-2007, 11:09 AM
I clicked on a link on that perv's site and found a bunch of other sites.
Where is the Republic of Moldova????????
WHY can't they change the laws and make this illegal. Who pays to look at pictures of young girls?? THis is sick! I knew that these types of sites existed but never knew that there were soooo many.
I would really like to question the parents of these girls. Is it possible that the consent forms were signed BEFORE they realized the type of shoot they were getting into??
This is a quote I found on another of these sites:
Studio 13 is proud to bring to you something you can feel good about. This site helps support these wonderful teens. It will provide schooling, computers, shelter, clothes, and a secure future in a country where poverty is the norm. Our aim is that these young people on maturity will be educated, have a nice trust fund and the knowledge needed to survive in the business world. Where else do you get more for your money. You get to watch these teens grow and prosper and know you helped make the dream a reality.
Do you think we could raise enough hell to get these laws changed???
Cheetah
08-14-2007, 11:17 AM
Dave Hardman Productions
P.O. Box 1532
Cocoa, FL. 32923
Minor Model Release Form
I, _______________________________, with the full consent and signature of my legal parent(s) or legal guardian(s), hereby give David Hardman and/or Dave Hardman Productions, his legal representatives and assigns, the absolute and irrevocable rights and permission to use my name and pictures or moving images of myself to use, reproduce, edit, exhibit, copyright and/or sell, photographic, videotape, digital videotape or digital video discs produced on this date: ________________ and thereafter, and to circulate the same in all forms of media for art, trade, advertising, competition, internet digital publication and global commerce and/or for any other lawful purpose whatsoever. I also consent to the use of any printed matter in conjunction therewith.
I hereby state that I, _________________________________ was compensated in the amount of consideration for this consensual photographic or videotape production modeling session.
Amount of Consideration: $ ___________
Copy of ID for USC requirements: Yes______ No______
I have read this release form and I am fully familiar with its contents.
Minor Model: ___________________________________________ Date: ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬_______________
Minor Consent:
I hereby state that I, _________________________________ ____being the legal parent(s) or guardian(s)
of the minor named above and have the legal authority to execute the above release. I have read this model release form and/or the modeling details, modeling shoot prospectus and/or have read and understood the modeling site proposal, which states that the model named above will be paid a one time only or flat modeling fee agreed upon by all parties involved for this model shoot production and will not be entitled to receive any additional monies resulting from sales of the DVD(s). I also state that I have been fully informed as to the manner which these modeling products produced of the minor named above will be marketed, to my complete satisfaction and waive any rights I may have to cancel this release form. In the event that I would like to cancel this legal release form, I will contact David Hardman and/or Dave Hardman Productions and provide a reasonable amount of compensation to offset the loss of sales revenues and/or time from producing and marketing the products of the minor named above.
I hereby waive any right that I may have to inspect and/or approve the finished product or products or soundtrack that may be used in connection with therewith and any right I may have to control the use or distribution to which said product, products or copy and/or soundtracks may be applied.
I hereby release, discharge, and agree to save harmless David Hardman and/or Dave Hardman Productions, his legal representatives or assigns, and all persons acting under his permission or authority or those for whom he is acting, from any liability by virtue of any blurring, distortion, alteration, optical illusion, or use in composite form, whether intentional or otherwise, that may occur or be produced in the taking of said picture or moving images or in any subsequent processing or marketing thereof, as well as any publication thereof, including social or moral issues brought about by the public release of the minor modeling products produced, including without limitation any claims for libel or invasion of privacy.
I hereby warrant that I am of full age and have every right to contract for the minor in the above regard. I state further that I have read the above authorization, release, and agreement, prior to its execution, and that I am fully familiar with the contents thereof.
Parent or Legal Guardian: ___________________________________________ Date: ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬_______________
Address: ¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬_______________________________________ ____________________________________________
dimples37398
08-14-2007, 11:32 AM
I am not sure what I am able to post on here without getting in trouble but I found most of the girls first and last names.........I would like to find an email for their parents........
dimples37398
08-14-2007, 08:12 PM
I found out some stuff about this guy after searching long and hard. It is truly disgusting!!!!!! Parents really need to check people out before they just assume everyone is nice and everything is legit. I also found feedback from the dvd's that are sold, and the feedback is obvious as to what the people are using the images and video for. Note.....to my knowledge that I seen there was no feedback left from women....only one messaged that was suppose to have been from one of the girls moms.........
southcitymom
08-14-2007, 09:07 PM
I think these parents need to charged with something! Promoting child porn?What parent want's pictures like that of their kids! Disgusting!
I hear you SadieMae. But there is definitely a subset of America out there who believe this is okay and want to help their daughters get started in this as a career - and I'm sure many preteens are raring to do it and act older.
It's absolutely not my thing at all and it creeps me out just like the little girl beauty pageants creep me out, but there are plenty of parents who don't even think twice about it.
Reannan
08-14-2007, 09:33 PM
I found out some stuff about this guy after searching long and hard. It is truly disgusting!!!!!! Parents really need to check people out before they just assume everyone is nice and everything is legit. I also found feedback from the dvd's that are sold, and the feedback is obvious as to what the people are using the images and video for. Note.....to my knowledge that I seen there was no feedback left from women....only one messaged that was suppose to have been from one of the girls moms.........
Dimples, you have been busy! Do you have any idea of the current status of this guy? Has he been arrested? If not, then perhaps you should make a call to the local FBI and see if they are interested in what you have found. :blowkiss:
dimples37398
08-15-2007, 05:14 AM
On the feedback about the dvd page this is what I found....a quote from the text at the top of the feedback page.
The reason this page isn't public is we don't want the Moms and Models to be too offended by our fans candid comments! This page url will be sent out only to those asking for some reviews, to help decide which DVD to buy. Of course, our intention is to have you buy all of them!
dimples37398
08-15-2007, 05:16 AM
Also do a search in yahoo for
Dave then his last name....and then BIO
Squishified
08-15-2007, 12:04 PM
On the feedback about the dvd page this is what I found....a quote from the text at the top of the feedback page.
The reason this page isn't public is we don't want the Moms and Models to be too offended by our fans candid comments! This page url will be sent out only to those asking for some reviews, to help decide which DVD to buy. Of course, our intention is to have you buy all of them!
Gimme a break!
They wouldn't be getting "offended" if they hadn't put their daughters on such an offensive dvd. What kind of feedback did they expect?
meowy
08-15-2007, 01:57 PM
Gross.. there's gotta be some really warped comments then from real pervazoids. Yuck.
Texana
08-15-2007, 10:50 PM
Gimme a break!
They wouldn't be getting "offended" if they hadn't put their daughters on such an offensive dvd. What kind of feedback did they expect?
Exactly, the fact that there's even a warning/disclosure about the comments should be a huge heads up to the parents as to the real purpose of this site.
I guess they just shrug that off as "part of the price they pay" to help their children's careers, such as they imagine them to be.
meowy
08-16-2007, 11:11 AM
nope i have been to the site, he pays the parents 500 dollars and he will give them a copy of the pics. he then owns the pics and sells them on the web. they pimp the kids for 500 bucks. then he sells the dvd for 35 a pop.
Ohhhh! Does HE pay the parents to take photos of the little girls, or do the parents pay to have photos taken by this guy? I was assuming the parents paid, kind of like there used to be Glamor Shots in the malls or something, but if HE is paying.. that creeps me out even more. Is that common for the photographer to pay to get to take photos of people? I thought people paid to have their photos taken, dang.. if Sears will pay us to get a family portrait done, what am I waiting for!? (sarcasm yay)
Wasn't sure if I misunderstand, either way it's just gross. I wonder how these young kids feel about this. How will they feel when they're older. How many have had strange men walk up to them, recognizing them.
I've not visited the site. What I don't see, I don't have to try and erase from memory later in the day hehe
Ugh then from another post earlier, I forget who wrote it.. copying the disclosure thing. That bit about the right to add soundtracks, I'm gonna hurl.
sherri79
08-16-2007, 11:16 AM
Ohhhh! Does HE pay the parents to take photos of the little girls, or do the parents pay to have photos taken by this guy? I was assuming the parents paid, kind of like there used to be Glamor Shots in the malls or something, but if HE is paying.. that creeps me out even more. Is that common for the photographer to pay to get to take photos of people? I thought people paid to have their photos taken, dang.. if Sears will pay us to get a family portrait done, what am I waiting for!? (sarcasm yay)
Wasn't sure if I misunderstand, either way it's just gross. I wonder how these young kids feel about this. How will they feel when they're older. How many have had strange men walk up to them, recognizing them.
I've not visited the site. What I don't see, I don't have to try and erase from memory later in the day hehe
Ugh then from another post earlier, I forget who wrote it.. copying the disclosure thing. That bit about the right to add soundtracks, I'm gonna hurl.
he pays 500 dollars to the parents. he then owns the photos. when the parents get the cash they sign over all rights. he then places the photos on a dvd and makes a ad on his web site. he sells the dvd for about 35dollars a pop.
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