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christine2448
08-17-2007, 08:49 AM
Recent killing leads police to possible serial killer
Chef charged in four murders admitted to doing 'bad things'

By BETH WARREN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 08/17/07

Local chef Charles Lendelle Carter told police he has trouble sleeping at night because he is often haunted by the faces of his victims.

Police say he has reason to lie awake because he's a serial killer whose crimes have just come to light. When Fulton County police detectives recently solved a homicide, they unwittingly stumbled onto Carter, who they believe hunted victims in at least four counties dating back 15 years.

And authorities want him to keep talking because they believe there could be even more.

There's the mother of six who was beaten and strangled the day after Christmas 2005 in Gwinnett County; the Alpharetta mother who was stabbed in 2006 and found when her son returned home from middle school; the man dragged behind a school in DeKalb County in 1992 and riddled with bullets; the Atlanta mother of three who was sexually assaulted and stabbed in 2004, found in her bloodied bed by her teen-age son.

Carter, 39, is charged with murder in all four of those slayings and faces a death penalty trial in Fulton County for the Atlanta crime. He is due in court next month for pretrial hearings.

He confessed to the DeKalb County homicide and admitted he has done "bad things," but he asked for a lawyer and pleaded not guilty to the other slayings, said former Fulton County police homicide investigator Glenn Kalish, who teamed with Detective Michael Lindstrom to close in on Carter last year.

Carter is also a "person of interest" in the abduction and death of a 16-year-old girl in Henry County, but he has not been charged.

Carter told police he would volunteer to work double shifts as a chef to stay busy, sleeping on a little storage room cot and asking his co-workers to keep him from going outside "so I wouldn't do something bad," said Kalish, who is now a Sandy Springs police sergeant.

"He's psychotic," said Kalish, who has been in law enforcement for 14 years. "Without question, he's the most disturbed person I've ever come across."


Story Continues..this is just the beginning! (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/08/16/killer_0817.html?cxntnid=amn081707e)

tennessee
08-17-2007, 09:27 AM
From the article:

"His sister and father sat quietly, but when Carter began to talk, his mother interrupted and told him to hush up and get a lawyer. Kalish said Carter pleaded: "But Mom, I need to tell you." She sternly again told him to be quiet."

:mad:

Confession is good for the soul. If my son were sitting there, telling me he had murdered four or more people, I would be crying my eyes out. I would want him to confess and beg for life in prison. I would beg for him. However, I would not tell him to shut up. I would want society to be safe from any more killing by him.

Perhaps she is why he was killing women.

sherri79
08-17-2007, 09:35 AM
we often can see something in a family that will help explain how people can turn out. the really scary cases are when we cant find a clue how someone is born a innocent baby and ends up a cold blooded monster.

MissieMt
08-17-2007, 09:36 AM
Wow-hopefully we can get some GA cases solved soon!!

Amraann
08-17-2007, 09:48 AM
we often can see something in a family that will help explain how people can turn out. the really scary cases are when we cant find a clue how someone is born a innocent baby and ends up a cold blooded monster.

I think one of the most common issues we see with serial killers is an overbearing mother (or lack of a mother entirely)
I think his mothers reaction says it all .... Even worse at 39 he listened to her!

concernedperson
08-17-2007, 09:59 AM
I can see why no one connected a serial killer to these crimes as the MO changed in several of the cases. Some victims were stabbed, another strangled and another shot and was a male. I believe this is a tip of an iceberg as cold case detectives unravel more crimes for which Carter could be responsible.

Another thing he was all over town....northside to southside involving different police jurisdictions.

christine2448
08-17-2007, 10:56 AM
I can see why no one connected a serial killer to these crimes as the MO changed in several of the cases. Some victims were stabbed, another strangled and another shot and was a male. I believe this is a tip of an iceberg as cold case detectives unravel more crimes for which Carter could be responsible.

Another thing he was all over town....northside to southside involving different police jurisdictions.


If it weren't for the DNA I don't think they would have connected them. I wonder how many there really are, and how many we will never be able to link to him. This will be one to watch.

Also, he doesn't fit the profile for a serial killer at all, does he?
http://www.geocities.com/serialkillers101/profile.html


How close in age is he to Wayne Williams? Maybe outfield.

BOESP
08-17-2007, 11:03 AM
I think one of the most common issues we see with serial killers is an overbearing mother (or lack of a mother entirely)
I think his mothers reaction says it all .... Even worse at 39 he listened to her!

Amraann, you and I agree on a lot here lately. Excellent post! :dance:

concernedperson
08-17-2007, 11:06 AM
If it weren't for the DNA I don't think they would have connected them. I wonder how many there really are, and how many we will never be able to link to him. This will be one to watch.

Also, he doesn't fit the profile for a serial killer at all, does he?
http://www.geocities.com/serialkillers101/profile.html


How close in age is he to Wayne Williams? Maybe outfield.


Wayne Williams was born May 27,1958.

catsmeow
08-17-2007, 11:16 AM
Recent killing leads police to possible serial killer
Chef charged in four murders admitted to doing 'bad things'

By BETH WARREN
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Published on: 08/17/07

Local chef Charles Lendelle Carter told police he has trouble sleeping at night because he is often haunted by the faces of his victims.

Police say he has reason to lie awake because he's a serial killer whose crimes have just come to light. When Fulton County police detectives recently solved a homicide, they unwittingly stumbled onto Carter, who they believe hunted victims in at least four counties dating back 15 years.

And authorities want him to keep talking because they believe there could be even more.

There's the mother of six who was beaten and strangled the day after Christmas 2005 in Gwinnett County; the Alpharetta mother who was stabbed in 2006 and found when her son returned home from middle school; the man dragged behind a school in DeKalb County in 1992 and riddled with bullets; the Atlanta mother of three who was sexually assaulted and stabbed in 2004, found in her bloodied bed by her teen-age son.

Carter, 39, is charged with murder in all four of those slayings and faces a death penalty trial in Fulton County for the Atlanta crime. He is due in court next month for pretrial hearings.

He confessed to the DeKalb County homicide and admitted he has done "bad things," but he asked for a lawyer and pleaded not guilty to the other slayings, said former Fulton County police homicide investigator Glenn Kalish, who teamed with Detective Michael Lindstrom to close in on Carter last year.

Carter is also a "person of interest" in the abduction and death of a 16-year-old girl in Henry County, but he has not been charged.

Carter told police he would volunteer to work double shifts as a chef to stay busy, sleeping on a little storage room cot and asking his co-workers to keep him from going outside "so I wouldn't do something bad," said Kalish, who is now a Sandy Springs police sergeant.

"He's psychotic," said Kalish, who has been in law enforcement for 14 years. "Without question, he's the most disturbed person I've ever come across."


Story Continues..this is just the beginning! (http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/northfulton/stories/2007/08/16/killer_0817.html?cxntnid=amn081707e)

I am so glad he is OFF THE STREETS! I'm in Gwinnett. This scares me reading this, he sounds completely crazy! I hope his capture brings some closure to some cases. :(

Amraann
08-17-2007, 11:31 AM
Amraann, you and I agree on a lot here lately. Excellent post! :dance:


LOL Yes we do!!! And Thanks! I enjoy your posts as well:)

KR2tonenow
08-17-2007, 03:50 PM
Wow-hopefully we can get some GA cases solved soon!!

My sentiments exactly!! Glad to hear they have this guy!!

txsvicki
08-18-2007, 12:40 AM
How disgusting that this freak was a chef and what kind of idiots did he work with if it's really true that he slept there and asked them not to let him outside as if he were a werewolf or something. He sort of sounds like he is a master manipulator who is now trying to make himself sound crazy. He was even linked to some of the robbery/murders and not caught.

SeriouslySearching
08-18-2007, 11:52 AM
I think he should be looked at carefully in many cases and everywhere he lived or worked should be scrutinized for possible victims. It sounds like this guy is responsible for so many more!

I would like to know if he was ever in Orlando, FL working as a Chef, too. Altho, it sounds like he stayed around Georgia...it would be a question I hope they ask.

What a sick, demented man! I can't believe no one raised concern over his statements or his behaviors early on!!

GlitchWizard
08-20-2007, 08:55 AM
we often can see something in a family that will help explain how people can turn out. the really scary cases are when we cant find a clue how someone is born a innocent baby and ends up a cold blooded monster.

My theory is that it's not so often the "clues" in the family that cause this, but perhaps a chemical imbalance. If you think about all the terrible childhoods there are - we'd see alot more serial killers if it were how they were raised, I'd think. Plus, knowing one serial killer for the last several years (pen pal) and discussing everything under the sun at length - his mom has a history of mental illness, but his childhood wasn't as lousy as many people's are. From my armchair laboratory, it's GOT to be chemical. :-)

Interesting thing I'd like to see research on - since MOST serial killers are white guys, perhaps the type of chemical imbalance is run along racial lines (sort of like it's mostly black people who get sickle cell disease - the chemical workings are slightly different in different races.) Now, this guy being a black serial killer really is unique.

As for his background, I'm not really up on my black man upbringing, not being one myself, but I've been under the impression that most black families have the mother as the person who runs the household - what some might call domineering (if you are white and used to spoiling your kids and being wishy washy, like me). So - if his mom was domineering and he was close to his Mom (mama's boy?) - isn't that typical, and thus not considered a factor in causing this?

(Correct me if I am wrong - I was told this by some black guys at work when we were discussing Moms one day. I don't want to see his upbringing being blamed if it was the same type upbringing my coworkers have had - who aren't killing anyone that I know of.)

imthemom
08-20-2007, 09:15 AM
My theory is that it's not so often the "clues" in the family that cause this, but perhaps a chemical imbalance. If you think about all the terrible childhoods there are - we'd see alot more serial killers if it were how they were raised, I'd think. Plus, knowing one serial killer for the last several years (pen pal) and discussing everything under the sun at length - his mom has a history of mental illness, but his childhood wasn't as lousy as many people's are. From my armchair laboratory, it's GOT to be chemical. :-)

Interesting thing I'd like to see research on - since MOST serial killers are white guys, perhaps the type of chemical imbalance is run along racial lines (sort of like it's mostly black people who get sickle cell disease - the chemical workings are slightly different in different races.) Now, this guy being a black serial killer really is unique.

As for his background, I'm not really up on my black man upbringing, not being one myself, but I've been under the impression that most black families have the mother as the person who runs the household - what some might call domineering (if you are white and used to spoiling your kids and being wishy washy, like me). So - if his mom was domineering and he was close to his Mom (mama's boy?) - isn't that typical, and thus not considered a factor in causing this?

(Correct me if I am wrong - I was told this by some black guys at work when we were discussing Moms one day. I don't want to see his upbringing being blamed if it was the same type upbringing my coworkers have had - who aren't killing anyone that I know of.)

There is a great show on TV about serial killers, sorry the name is failing me right now. They did scans of their brains and they are actually different. Almost all had in common was history of mental illness, bad childhoods, and major head trauma as a child. They say someday we might be able to tell these people before they ever kill anyone with just a brain scan.

sherri79
08-20-2007, 09:49 AM
My theory is that it's not so often the "clues" in the family that cause this, but perhaps a chemical imbalance. If you think about all the terrible childhoods there are - we'd see alot more serial killers if it were how they were raised, I'd think. Plus, knowing one serial killer for the last several years (pen pal) and discussing everything under the sun at length - his mom has a history of mental illness, but his childhood wasn't as lousy as many people's are. From my armchair laboratory, it's GOT to be chemical. :-)

Interesting thing I'd like to see research on - since MOST serial killers are white guys, perhaps the type of chemical imbalance is run along racial lines (sort of like it's mostly black people who get sickle cell disease - the chemical workings are slightly different in different races.) Now, this guy being a black serial killer really is unique.

As for his background, I'm not really up on my black man upbringing, not being one myself, but I've been under the impression that most black families have the mother as the person who runs the household - what some might call domineering (if you are white and used to spoiling your kids and being wishy washy, like me). So - if his mom was domineering and he was close to his Mom (mama's boy?) - isn't that typical, and thus not considered a factor in causing this?

(Correct me if I am wrong - I was told this by some black guys at work when we were discussing Moms one day. I don't want to see his upbringing being blamed if it was the same type upbringing my coworkers have had - who aren't killing anyone that I know of.)
you have a great point. in a normal person abuse would not turn you into a killer. my understanding of the studies out there about the brain of these type of killers is that they think different than normal but so do some people in the control group. if you have 2 people with the same problem what turns 1 into a killer and not the other. it seems to me abuse can be a trigger

Taximom
08-20-2007, 11:58 AM
OMGosh, those are exactly the women I thought of when I saw this headline. WOW.

GlitchWizard
08-20-2007, 12:03 PM
you have a great point. in a normal person abuse would not turn you into a killer. my understanding of the studies out there about the brain of these type of killers is that they think different than normal but so do some people in the control group. if you have 2 people with the same problem what turns 1 into a killer and not the other. it seems to me abuse can be a trigger

My pen pal tells me the lawyers have asked him twenty or more times in the last 10 years if he had ever hit his head or been abused. They don't like it when he tells them no. :-) I will say he's got some big anger issues and seems pretty paranoid. Of course, that could be from being locked up, too.

christine2448
08-20-2007, 01:03 PM
I have been searching for updates, news on this story, nada.

GlitchWizard
08-20-2007, 05:57 PM
I have been searching for updates, news on this story, nada.

Thanks for looking for those of us who don't have the time to look yet!
:-)

imamaze
11-13-2011, 08:37 PM
Confessed serial killer suspected in other slayings (http://www.ajc.com/news/gwinnett/confessed-serial-killer-suspected-931416.html)
Charles Lendelle Carter received his third life sentence for murder this year and described himself in court as a "monster or whatever."
Yet authorities aren't certain how many times he has killed.

Apriel Allen, 38, an administrative assistant who was stabbed and sexually assaulted at her townhome in Atlanta on Oct. 20, 2004.
Angela Thayer Green, a mother of six who was found strangled to death Dec. 27, 2005, at a friend's apartment in Norcross.
Lisa Rosenthal, 40, a single mother of two who was stabbed in the face and back at her Alpharetta home on Jan. 12, 2006.
Police in two other metro Atlanta counties are also looking at Carter in connection with two killings.
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Recent killing leads police to possible serial killer (http://www.skcentral.com/news.php?readmore=2330)
Local chef Charles Lendelle Carter told police he has trouble sleeping at night because he is often haunted by the faces of his victims.

Police say he has reason to lie awake because he's a serial killer whose crimes have just come to light. When Fulton County police detectives recently solved a homicide, they unwittingly stumbled onto Carter, who they believe hunted victims in at least four counties dating back 15 years.

And authorities want him to keep talking because they believe there could be even more.

There's the mother of six who was beaten and strangled the day after Christmas 2005 in Gwinnett County; the Alpharetta mother who was stabbed in 2006 and found when her son returned home from middle school; the man dragged behind a school in DeKalb County in 1992 and riddled with bullets; the Atlanta mother of three who was sexually assaulted and stabbed in 2004, found in her bloodied bed by her teen-age son.

Carter, 39, is charged with murder in all four of those slayings and faces a death penalty trial in Fulton County for the Atlanta crime. He is due in court next month for pretrial hearings.

He confessed to the DeKalb County homicide and admitted he has done "bad things," but he asked for a lawyer and pleaded not guilty to the other slayings, said former Fulton County police homicide investigator Glenn Kalish, who teamed with Detective Michael Lindstrom to close in on Carter last year.

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Psychotic chef may be serial killer, police say (http://crime.about.com/b/2007/08/17/psychotic-chef-may-be-serial-killer-police-say.htm)
A psychotic chef -- who worked double shifts, slept on a cot at work and asked coworkers not to let him go outside because he might do "bad things" -- may be a serial killer linked to several murders in the Atlanta area dating back 15 years. Charles Lendelle Carter has been charged with four murders and investigators believe there may be others.
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Gwinnett killer gets third life sentence (http://www.ajc.com/news/gwinnett/gwinnett-killer-gets-third-914698.html)
Charles Lendelle Carter was recently sentenced to life plus 20 years in prison for the 2005 murder of a Norcross mother of six.
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