Inmate recants story: Teena Brandon/Brandon Teena

[kittykat1]

http://www.courttv.com/news/2007/0920/boys_dont_cry_ap.html

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — One of two men convicted in the 1993 murder of Teena Brandon and two others that spawned the movie "Boys Don't Cry" now says he was the only attacker who shot and stabbed them.

This is an incredibly amazing turn of events. Lotter is seeking exoneration. He has been on death row. Can you imagine being convicted of something you didn't do and being put on death row for it? I am in no way saying Lotter is an angel, but he did not have the involvement Nissen originally claimed he did.

[christine2448]

http://www.courttv.com/news/2007/0920/boys_dont_cry_ap.html

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — One of two men convicted in the 1993 murder of Teena Brandon and two others that spawned the movie "Boys Don't Cry" now says he was the only attacker who shot and stabbed them.

This is an incredibly amazing turn of events. Lotter is seeking exoneration. He has been on death row. Can you imagine being convicted of something you didn't do and being put on death row for it? I am in no way saying Lotter is an angel, but he did not have the involvement Nissen originally claimed he did.

Interesting indeed. Thanks for the update.


Lotter is seeking complete exoneration, saying he had no role in the crime.
According to a July report from Nissen's mental health counselor, Nissen described himself as the "trigger man" in the murders and told the counselor that "the idea for the murders was initially Lotter's idea" but "Lotter's gun jammed and Nissen proceeded to shoot all three victims."
"Nissen said that he did not have any problem admitting to the murders, but ... wanted Lotter to acknowledge his, Lotter's, involvement with the crime," the report says.

[Jeana (DP)]

http://www.courttv.com/news/2007/0920/boys_dont_cry_ap.html

LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) — One of two men convicted in the 1993 murder of Teena Brandon and two others that spawned the movie "Boys Don't Cry" now says he was the only attacker who shot and stabbed them.

This is an incredibly amazing turn of events. Lotter is seeking exoneration. He has been on death row. Can you imagine being convicted of something you didn't do and being put on death row for it? I am in no way saying Lotter is an angel, but he did not have the involvement Nissen originally claimed he did.

He was there. He was an accomplice. When it comes to punishment, as we've discussed before, it doesn't matter whether you pulled the trigger or you paid someone to do it. If the person is only dead because of your participation, you are just as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger. Moreover, all they have is the word of one other person who is just as guilty, if not more so, than this guy, so basically his words aren't worth the paper they're written on. How Lotter can seek to be exonerated is the joke of the day.

[christine2448]

He was there. He was an accomplice. When it comes to punishment, as we've discussed before, it doesn't matter whether you pulled the trigger or you paid someone to do it. If the person is only dead because of your participation, you are just as guilty as the person who pulled the trigger. Moreover, all they have is the word of one other person who is just as guilty, if not more so, than this guy, so basically his words aren't worth the paper they're written on. How Lotter can seek to be exonerated is the joke of the day.

In the beginning of this Nissen said the only reason he was doing all the shooting was because Lotter's gun jammed. So, he is just as guilty IMO, he went there w/intent and knowing people were going to be murdered.

He should still fry. He did NOTHING to stop the murders.

I hate that Nissen didn't get the DP because he testified against Lotter...now, he is trying to save his buddy from the DP is how I see it. Then they can be LWOP, both of them.

Scumbags.

Didn't they BOTH rape Teena??????

[Jeana (DP)]

In the beginning of this Nissen said the only reason he was doing all the shooting was because Lotter's gun jammed. So, he is just as guilty IMO, he went there w/intent and knowing people were going to be murdered.

He should still fry. He did NOTHING to stop the murders.

I hate that Nissen didn't get the DP because he testified against Lotter...now, he is trying to save his buddy from the DP is how I see it. Then they can be LWOP, both of them.

Scumbags.

Didn't they BOTH rape Teena??????


I agree 100%. Yes, they both did rape Brandon.

[christine2448]

I agree 100%. Yes, they both did rape Brandon.


I should have called her Brandon, also. :clap:

[Mygirlsadie]

Oh man I have the movie about this. I havent heard about it in the news for yeaaaaars now. Sad story and I think they all should get the DP if it were up to me! :mad:

[White Rain]

Wow I can't believe this. Marvin Nissen confessing..and he wasn't even sentenced to death like John Lotter was.

LINCOLN, Neb. - One of two men convicted in the 1993 murder of Teena Brandon and two others that spawned the movie "Boys Don't Cry" now says he was the only attacker who shot and stabbed them.
Marvin Nissen's new account that he was the lone killer could reignite a case that drew national attention to the issues of transgendered people.
The man Nissen once blamed for the killings, John Lotter, is now on death row and has asked for a new trial.
Brandon was born a female but for a time lived as a man in rural southeast Nebraska. Prosecutors said the 21-year-old was killed in a farmhouse near Humboldt after reporting being raped by Lotter and Nissen. During the trial, Nissen said he had stabbed Brandon but that Lotter fired all the shots that killed Brandon and the others. more at link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20891239/

[missacorah]

Wow, strange. I remember seeing this movie and being affected by it.

[gman20001969]

I remember this movie as well. Was shocked that it was based on true events.

[Taximom]

Why is he confessing now? Guilty conscience? Nissen isn't claiming he didn't rape Brandon, so he should still be in prison, IMO.

I think it's weird how the same person stabbed and shot Brandon. Usually two different weapons means two different people used them. I wonder what DNA evidence they have that might prove Nissen's claim.

I feel so sorry for Joann Brandon. It's sad that she has to relive this again.

[Anita Richman]

Why is he confessing now? Guilty conscience? Nissen isn't claiming he didn't rape Brandon, so he should still be in prison, IMO.

I think it's weird how the same person stabbed and shot Brandon. Usually two different weapons means two different people used them. I wonder what DNA evidence they have that might prove Nissen's claim.

I feel so sorry for Joann Brandon. It's sad that she has to relive this again.

He is in prison; he's serving a life sentence. Even though John Lotter didn't pull the trigger, I believe he was the master mind behind the slayings committed to cover up the rape(s) of Teena Brandon and is right where he belongs.

I am from Nebraska and recall how shocking and brutal the murders were. Lisa Lambert (one of the victims) was a single mom who had "taken in" Teena and Philip (the other victim) overnight. The killers left her baby alone in his crib...gosh, that little boy has to be almost 18 now. :( I wonder what his life has been like, without his loving mom.

[MsPooh]

I remember this movie, one of the few that have made me cry..Hillary Swank was awesome in it. But anyway..this guy just now coming out with this is just too little too late.

[Anita Richman]

I remember this movie, one of the few that have made me cry..Hillary Swank was awesome in it. But anyway..this guy just now coming out with this is just too little too late.
I agree, Ms Pooh. He has been giving interviews since shortly after his arrest; he clearly enjoys being in the "limelight" and I think this is just another bid for attention.

[DeathCab4Cutie]

What if Nissen IS telling the truth now? It's been said Lotter has the mentality of a 10 year-old & there's no way he alone could have been the mastermind behind the whole murders. Nissen has said in past interviews that the truth will come out someday. Who knows about him? If Lotter didn't actually kill someone, he DOESN'T deserve to be on death row...he SHOULD be in prison for life, however, for being there..as he clearly was. Maybe now they will look into the DNA like he wanted them too a few years back. :confused:

[Jeana (DP)]

What if Nissen IS telling the truth now? It's been said Lotter has the mentality of a 10 year-old & there's no way he alone could have been the mastermind behind the whole murders. Nissen has said in past interviews that the truth will come out someday. Who knows about him? If Lotter didn't actually kill someone, he DOESN'T deserve to be on death row...he SHOULD be in prison for life, however, for being there..as he clearly was. Maybe now they will look into the DNA like he wanted them too a few years back. :confused:

What IF Nissen told the truth before when it actually had a chance to do some good? Do you realize how backed up our courts are? Do you realize that at some point in time EVERY person in prison or on death row makes some sort of change to his story? I say big deal. Even IF he didn't actually kill anyone, that's a mere technicality.

[DeathCab4Cutie]

What IF Nissen told the truth before when it actually had a chance to do some good? Do you realize how backed up our courts are? Do you realize that at some point in time EVERY person in prison or on death row makes some sort of change to his story? I say big deal. Even IF he didn't actually kill anyone, that's a mere technicality.

Sorry I spoke!

[Jeana (DP)]

Sorry I spoke!

You don't have to be sorry. This is a discussion forum. You state your opinion, then I state mine and so on. We sometimes even change our minds. Hang in there!! I ain't so bad. :blushing: :blushing:

[Al_B]

A man convicted of the murder portrayed in the movie "Boys Don't Cry" won't get a new trial.
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