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chicoliving
09-28-2007, 09:24 PM
Here ya go.

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 09:26 PM
Thanks Chico!

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 09:26 PM
Here ya go.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 09:27 PM
Did someone say she was going to be at the presser on last thread???

Will someone post a small summary of what has been said/what is being said.. No cnn

Jaded
09-28-2007, 09:28 PM
How old is the suspect? I found a myspace for "Arthur Stiles" in Las Vegas, age 38.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=83912388

Autumn2004
09-28-2007, 09:28 PM
I couldnt believe today of all days I couldnt get on here :rolleyes:!! I am shocked that they found her and so happy! She is going to need some major counseling to have dealt with a life like that! She is going to have some major problems with so many things it just breaks my heart :( I hope those two are taken care of in the prison population! Her caretakers ( cant call them parents :behindbar ) are taken out they dont deserve to ever see the light of day again!

I wished they would have showed the pig's ears better in the mug shots, Dumbo ears would have been easier to spot, yeah Im very angry at him and what he did to her!

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 09:29 PM
Authorities have located the little girl in the sexual abuse tape. She is said to be okay. The person of interest, Chester Stiles, is the little girl's father and is still at large.
The Nye County Sheriff's Office will hold a press conference at 7:30 and News 3 will have updates throughout the evening.

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7144762

ETA SS, could this be the one?

LMax
09-28-2007, 09:29 PM
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7144762
An investigator says a young girl who was shown being sexually assaulted in a homemade videotape has been found and is safe with family members and Nye County sheriff's officials.

EZRA
09-28-2007, 09:30 PM
I don't know that she is 13 - I think CNN is saying that the video was recorded over a tape of a girl who was attacked in 2005 and that girl is now 13. I think Madison is only still really young from what I'm getting from the investigators....maybe I'm way off here or missing something

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 09:30 PM
I can't believe she is going to be at the presser..who is this childs mother

Jaded
09-28-2007, 09:30 PM
Authorities have located the little girl in the sexual abuse tape. She is said to be okay. The person of interest, Chester Stiles, is the little girl's father and is still at large.
The Nye County Sheriff's Office will hold a press conference at 7:30 and News 3 will have updates throughout the evening.

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7144762

OMG Her father?!!?

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 09:30 PM
I can't believe it. I'm so happy. Today when we prayed and sent out good thought at 11:17 a.m. Eastern time I beg that she would be found today. (Now I sound like Pat Robertson praying away the hurricane).
I've been working on homework since I got home from work and had the tv in the background. I couldn't believe it when I heard it.

God bless you Madison. There are millions of people out here that love you.

Mygirlsadie
09-28-2007, 09:30 PM
I read she is safe with family!! UPDATE: 5:20 p.m.) -- AP has reported that Nevada authorities say they've found a little girl who was shown being sexually assaulted in a homemade videotape, and she's safe with her family.

LMax
09-28-2007, 09:31 PM
woops, sorry IndyGal

diamondgirl
09-28-2007, 09:31 PM
We were all right. It was his daughter. I wonder who she's with. Thank You God.

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 09:31 PM
I thought I just heard on Nancy Grace (sans Nancy) that they were not giving out any other information on Madison other than she was safe and with family.

Just heard Tuck didn't pass the poly.

dellemma
09-28-2007, 09:32 PM
Tuck did NOT pass the polygrph per Nancy Grace show reporter. Not sure what questions were asked.

Mygirlsadie
09-28-2007, 09:32 PM
I don't know either because I read a few threads back that she was born Nov.1997 so that would make her just shy of 11.. I didnt expect her to be that old I was still thinking this little tiny girl.




I don't know that she is 13 - I think CNN is saying that the video was recorded over a tape of a girl who was attacked in 2005 and that girl is now 13. I think Madison is only still really young from what I'm getting from the investigators....maybe I'm way off here or missing something

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 09:33 PM
I don't know that she is 13 - I think CNN is saying that the video was recorded over a tape of a girl who was attacked in 2005 and that girl is now 13. I think Madison is only still really young from what I'm getting from the investigators....maybe I'm way off here or missing something

snip from article......regarding older girl on tape, NOT Madison
Investigators identified that girl, now 13, after releasing photos drawn from the video and matched her to records of a "peeping Tom" report at her home.
From what I read a report was make back in on 10/16/05

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 09:33 PM
Please dont post her photo anymore. Not telling just think it is repectful.

teedie2
09-28-2007, 09:33 PM
Holy crap - a Chester Arthur Stiles, age 37, has previously had an address in the following areas:

LAS VEGAS, NV - (last known address)
PACT, FL
DARROUZETT, TX
PANAMA CITY, FL
HOUSTON, TX - (not sure when this was/is but I live in Houston & I'm telling you I have seen this guy somewhere, it may have just been on an offender website, but I know I've seen him!!!)

Start checking links to these locations peeps!

CAS must have been mentioned on some site in connection with something before this, because the first time I heard the name, it sounded familiar. Not the picture, but the name. So I'm sure I've read something about him before.

Thank God this child has been found. I close my eyes to try to sleep, and I see her face. Now we can rejoice!!

If anyone recognizes ole Chester, it would be perfectly ok with me if they slit his throat on the spot. When I see those pictures of him, my body just buzzes with anger!

Liz
09-28-2007, 09:34 PM
I have an almost 4 year old - I keep the TV off, but had to turn it on for this. She saw Madison and said "can we pray for her" I said yes and she said "Dear Jesus, please give Madison her smile back"


OMG! Right out of the mouth of babe's --- how poignantly said!
(That made me cry)


Justche, what a wonderful and sweet child!

kylie
09-28-2007, 09:34 PM
I am wondering how "safe "this family is......they need to be checked out

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 09:34 PM
Indy, I wasn't planning to post any pictures but did you mean the thirteen yr. old girl that he videotaped through the window or are you talking about Madison. Or both.

reb
09-28-2007, 09:35 PM
<He said investigators were led to Stiles by tips>

hhhmmm... maybe we had something to do with that? ;)
Who was it that posted Stiles' photo earlier today or yesterday... (didn't they?) I thought I remembered seeing his photo on here first (unless I'm imagining things).... If so,, way to go... good job!

What fantastic news.... it will be interesting to hear what has happened.. if there is any relation, how he got her in the first place,, if family members knew about it, if Madison has been getting counselling all along,, or not. Although I hope she does regain her privacy.. and doesn't have to live out her life as "the girl on the sex abuse tape"...

philamena
09-28-2007, 09:36 PM
Authorities have located the little girl in the sexual abuse tape. She is said to be okay. The person of interest, Chester Stiles, is the little girl's father and is still at large.
The Nye County Sheriff's Office will hold a press conference at 7:30 and News 3 will have updates throughout the evening.

http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7144762

ETA SS, could this be the one?

OMG that was the next greatest fear...her own father.,..*&^&^&() ))_)(*(*(
%$$#### :banghead::furious::mad:
There must be a special place in hell for him.

alpharee
09-28-2007, 09:36 PM
I don't know either because I read a few threads back that she was born Nov.1997 so that would make her just shy of 11.. I didnt expect her to be that old I was still thinking this little tiny girl.

if thats her b-day, she's 9 years old, almost 10

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 09:36 PM
Indy, I wasn't planning to post any pictures but did you mean the thirteen yr. old girl that he videotaped through the window or are you talking about Madison. Or both.
I dont think it is fair to either girl, again just saying. Hope I dont make anyone mad by saying it.:blowkiss:

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 09:36 PM
I am wondering how "safe "this family is......they need to be checked out

I wonder if he is the father if he filmed this while he had visitation at his apartment or maybe he had custody and that's why they said they doubted the mother would come forward.

I'm not going to worry about all that now. I'm so glad she's alive and she's safe. Now we need to concentrate on finding that POS Chester.

I agree with the other poster. For some reason his name sounds familiar.

Mygirlsadie
09-28-2007, 09:36 PM
well i'm thinking the same thing considering Madison's picture has been all over the place for the past week or so I imagine & they just barely came forward now? And how close did they watch our sweet girl because if any SOB touched my little girl I would know it!



I am wondering how "safe "this family is......they need to be checked out

Beffie
09-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Reading on the smoking gun it was his family that told him there was a warrant for him, giving him time to escape. I hope they check out "the family" really well.

Autumn2004
09-28-2007, 09:37 PM
Please dont post her photo anymore. Not telling just think it is repectful.

I hope she is not recognizable much from the photos to now, as public as she has been.

Liz
09-28-2007, 09:38 PM
How old is the suspect? I found a myspace for "Arthur Stiles" in Las Vegas, age 38.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=83912388

IF I remember correctly from the presser earlier today, the Stiles we are looking for was born 9/14/70. Which means he would have just celebrated his 37th birthday.

Mygirlsadie
09-28-2007, 09:38 PM
lol..umm yea my bad! I am soooo excited right now I can't type/think or do anything straight..Thanks! :crazy:




if thats her b-day, she's 9 years old, almost 10

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 09:38 PM
The board was down for me until now and the chat wouldn't work! But from the blurbs I am catching here in this one minute, did they find Madison???? Please tell me I'm understanding this correctly! OMG!

Autumn2004
09-28-2007, 09:38 PM
Reading on the smoking gun it was his family that told him there was a warrant for him, giving him time to escape. I hope they check out "the family" really well.

Unbelievable :banghead: scum all the way around this girl!! No wonder she has been put out there so much with no one to help her!

Medusa
09-28-2007, 09:39 PM
CAS must have been mentioned on some site in connection with something before this, because the first time I heard the name, it sounded familiar. Not the picture, but the name. So I'm sure I've read something about him before.

Thank God this child has been found. I close my eyes to try to sleep, and I see her face. Now we can rejoice!!

If anyone recognizes ole Chester, it would be perfectly ok with me if they slit his throat on the spot. When I see those pictures of him, my body just buzzes with anger!

I haven't went back and read through all four threads -as I just could get on here, but, I read 1 2 and 3 yesterday and someone here posted a link to CAS picture - I think it was someone saying they found a SO with record in Arizona and NV???? I KNOW I saw his pic before I saw the picture today on Crimeblog.us.

Mygirlsadie
09-28-2007, 09:39 PM
How sick! They all deserved to be charges as well then.




Reading on the smoking gun it was his family that told him there was a warrant for him, giving him time to escape. I hope they check out "the family" really well.

Autumn2004
09-28-2007, 09:39 PM
The board was down for me until now and the chat wouldn't work! But from the blurbs I am catching here in this one minute, did they find Madison???? Please tell me I'm understanding this correctly! OMG!
Yes and safe!!! the board was down for me too!

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 09:39 PM
Reading on the smoking gun it was his family that told him there was a warrant for him, giving him time to escape. I hope they check out "the family" really well.

If that's true I would be concerned for her too.

And Indy, I agree with you. No there no reason to post her picture anymore and I hope somehow, some way she's able to remain somewhat anonymous.

diamondgirl
09-28-2007, 09:40 PM
Unbelievable :banghead: scum all the way around this girl!! No wonder she has been put out there so much with no one to help her!

I agree they need to really check out this family...

christine2448
09-28-2007, 09:40 PM
I said it from day one!

post # 8, thread #1

I wonder if they are related, or she is a missing child?


Post # 12, threaed # 1

I know the pics aren't good, but, do their chins/mouths look similar?



I am a survivor you all, that is what brought me to WS, Missing prosecutor Ray Gricar, who prosecuted my step dad (who I thought was my bio dad until trial), sent him to prison for over 40 yrs......

Dear God, help this child.

philamena
09-28-2007, 09:40 PM
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7144762
An investigator says a young girl who was shown being sexually assaulted in a homemade videotape has been found and is safe with family members and Nye County sheriff's officials.


Why is she with family members?? My gawd she should be with other people...her dad ******* repeatedly raped her.

Mygirlsadie
09-28-2007, 09:41 PM
she will be lizzybeth..you would be amazed at the amount of people who don't even know about this.






If that's true I would be concerned for her too.

And Indy, I agree with you. No there no reason to post her picture anymore and I hope somehow, some way she's able to remain somewhat anonymous.

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 09:41 PM
I haven't went back and read through all four threads -as I just could get on here, but, I read 1 2 and 3 yesterday and someone here posted a link to CAS picture - I think it was someone saying they found a SO with record in Arizona and NV???? I KNOW I saw his pic before I saw the picture today on Crimeblog.us.

I'll go back and look Medusa...:rolleyes: don't post anything important until I get back.

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 09:42 PM
I think Madison is still very young..she looks like she can't be more then 5 years old at most.
Maybe they have her with grandparents now. But this is scary her being with family when the reason they think he left Vegas before all this came up was because they think his family tipped him off about the charges against him in 2004 with a young girl . I'd have to think twice before I would release her to anyone in that family.

philamena
09-28-2007, 09:43 PM
I can't believe it. I'm so happy. Today when we prayed and sent out good thought at 11:17 a.m. Eastern time I beg that she would be found today. (Now I sound like Pat Robertson praying away the hurricane).
I've been working on homework since I got home from work and had the tv in the background. I couldn't believe it when I heard it.

God bless you Madison. There are millions of people out here that love you.

Oh yes we did lizzybeth.... we sure prayed and our prayers and thoughts were answered.:blowkiss:

EZRA
09-28-2007, 09:44 PM
WHY are they leaving her with this family? They tipped him off about the warrant - they allowed this to go on? They went to all this trouble to just put her back in danger? They need to go back and get her and put her in a truly SAFE PLACE. This is just crazy.

Medusa
09-28-2007, 09:44 PM
I am looking as well, I will take 2 if you want one?I'll go back and look Medusa...:rolleyes: don't post anything important until I get back.

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 09:46 PM
Okay now I have to say. At some point during the press conference at 11am Nevada time, I forget who was talking, but I swear I heard him slip up and he went from 'person of interest' to 'suspect', and then he also said something about 'Mrs. Stiles'. Am I nuts or did anyone hear this too??

Yay I am soooo happy that Madison is at least not being abused anymore. I really do hope that the familymembers she's living with didn't know about it because if they did and not reported it, I'm going to be one po'd beotch!

Gonna catch up now, before I ask/say things that have already been asked and said.

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 09:48 PM
Now I'm confused..The Sheriff just said that he wasn't her father??

colomom
09-28-2007, 09:50 PM
Sheriff just said NOT her father...maybe brother (my guess)?

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 09:50 PM
I am looking as well, I will take 2 if you want one?
Sure, I'll take one and two. I know it isn't on four. I just checked that one unless I overlooked it.

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 09:50 PM
He might just not want to let that out yet. What channel?

Tuck failed his poly.

diamondgirl
09-28-2007, 09:51 PM
One thing that really haunts me...If this has happened for so long as she can remember is there a possibility this angel didn't know what what happening to her was wrong?? I always wonder about that.:( I'm sorry but need to get her the heck away from this so called family.. They had to have known something. The guy is a freakkkkk.....OOH this just pi$$e$ me off to no extent.

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 09:53 PM
Christine,
I am so sorry to hear that you had to be a survivor of your step-dad's horrrific crimes. I read on the Ray Crier thread..it's so sad they still have nothing happening with finding him or what happened with him. It's a mystery still up here in PA.
You are such a special person..God Bless you for reaching out to help these other victims.

diamondgirl
09-28-2007, 09:53 PM
Now I'm confused..The Sheriff just said that he wasn't her father??


HUH? I read on the news it was her father.

Beffie
09-28-2007, 09:53 PM
Now I'm confused..The Sheriff just said that he wasn't her father??


On this link they have a picture of him as suspect/girls father.
http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=7144762

I am confused, too. Although, I hope and pray he is NOT the father.

Elphaba
09-28-2007, 09:53 PM
I am reading the Smoking Gun document... this is my take: it was the warrant from a few years ago that the family told him about. I am taking a stab in the dark, but that earlier warrant may be for molesting this child... that his abusing Madison had already been on the radar and he has been fleeing the warrant for over 3 years... now the tape shows up and shows that not only was he molesting her, but also raping her as well.

Let me find the smoking gun addy...

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0928071stiles1.html

EZRA
09-28-2007, 09:54 PM
I don't think it could be his daughter - she was born in 1997 - this video was determined to have been made after Oct 2005 since they saw it was taped over that other girl who is now 13 - in the video based on her appearance she is so young she still has baby fat on her cheeks (which makes me cry) and that would probably put her at 3-4 which would make her 5-6 now. Just MO

Medusa
09-28-2007, 09:55 PM
Sure, I'll take one and two. I know it isn't on four. I just checked that one unless I overlooked it.


/Niot two, I am starting on three.

colomom
09-28-2007, 09:56 PM
Did I read that the mother is in jail?...a few posts back...any more info on that? How old is the mother?

EZRA
09-28-2007, 09:56 PM
So the "family" she is with if it is NOT her father may be a safe place for her - although I'm not clear how he got her - and repeatedly did this to her without the family knowing.....so then on second thought maybe not. I really hate this world.

reb
09-28-2007, 09:56 PM
Now hold on... for all we know, if Madison is really Stiles' daughter, the family members who tipped him off, might be estranged from the good side of the family who has her.. and the good family members might either NOT KNOW what happened, or maybe they have already gotten help for her... we just don't know yet.

Of course if Stiles ISN'T the father, then it's a moot point... because good side & bad side of the family wouldn't even be related... Stiles would just be a stranger to the people who have Madison.

Taximom
09-28-2007, 09:57 PM
Thank God she's been found alive.

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 09:58 PM
That is speculation it is her mother only. No confirmation on that at all. A poster found that and we don't know anything for certain.

Countdown to presser: 32 minutes

tiredblondy
09-28-2007, 09:58 PM
I am a survivor you all, that is what brought me to WS, Missing prosecutor Ray Gricar, who prosecuted my step dad (who I thought was my bio dad until trial), sent him to prison for over 40 yrs......
Dear God, help this child.

God Bless You Christine. My daughter was sexually,emotionally and physically abused before we adopted her at the age of 5. She did not cry for 3 years and still does not dream at the age of 24. She still has lots of problems after years of counseling, stability and love. The psychologist said she may never overcome the earlier damage. Where ever her mind took her ,to survive what was being done to her body, although it kept her alive, it also prevents her from getting close to anyone. She continues to have severe behavorial and emotional problems.

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 09:58 PM
Well I just don't think this family should come near her at this point in time until things can be checked out. His familly tipped him off in 2004 and he took off, but this tape is from 2005 onward..so this guy has been doing this to kids for a long time. And the family needs to be looked into before she is given over to them.

Beffie
09-28-2007, 09:58 PM
CNN reporting mother cooperating with investigation. I am so confused.

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 09:59 PM
on CNN now..they said he is not her father (the Sheriff said during presser) and her mother is talking with police.

reb
09-28-2007, 09:59 PM
I wondered too if the mother was in jail, on drugs, prostitute, works at a strip joint, etc... which is one reason why it took so long to ID Madison. I would bet she is a seedy character herself,, to have a kid with a child molester.
Then again, I guess this happens to many smart, educated, sensible women too, unfortunately.. But still,, the odds are high, that the mother would be involved in some bad stuff herself.

jilly
09-28-2007, 10:00 PM
There will be a new conference tonite at 7:30 pm Pacific.

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:00 PM
Story on Larry King Live right now (mountain time)...

Elphaba
09-28-2007, 10:00 PM
I don't think it could be his daughter - she was born in 1997 - this video was determined to have been made after Oct 2005 since they saw it was taped over that other girl who is now 13 - in the video based on her appearance she is so young she still has baby fat on her cheeks (which makes me cry) and that would probably put her at 3-4 which would make her 5-6 now. Just MO


Oh, okay... thanks for clarifying that for me. Hoping they get this predator shut away ASAP... he is beyond sick... he is evil through and through.

EZRA
09-28-2007, 10:02 PM
Stiles would just be a stranger to the people who have Madison.

Then who let him have that much access to her to begin with? I've been through this starting at age 6 - and as they said she's been through it before - she wasn't screaming or crying or anything like that - it's just pure resolve....why did this SOB have this much access to her? So the family is at fault in some regard even if they didn't know what was going on - they had an obligation to know (if that makes sense in writing) No one ever bothered to know what was going on with me and for 6 years I endured hell - my parents should have figured it out or at the very least figured out something was wrong.....so I don't blame them completely but they are there to protect her and they were clearly not doing that job. So I think they need to take a step back and see who knew what and who was letting her be with whom and why before they say she is now "safe"......I don't know if this makes sense the whole issue gets me a bit emotional......

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:02 PM
Medusa, it's not on thread #2. I don't remember anyone ever posting Chester Stiles picture before he was named as a POI. Maybe I missed that one but I don't think you'll find it before then.

I just heard they've upgraded Stiles status from POI to suspect.

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:04 PM
Sherrif said she is "older" (than on tape) won't say how old...

She was found in a "different jurisdiction" and they have no cell phone contact as they bring her back to Nevada (in California?)....

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:04 PM
?Did everyone leave me?

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Tuck flunked lie detector test

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 10:07 PM
Sherrif said she is "older" (than on tape) won't say how old...

She was found in a "different jurisdiction" and they have no cell phone contact as they bring her back to Nevada (in California?)....
Hey great job on the maddie threads!! Thanks for the update, i dont have cable in office.

jilly
09-28-2007, 10:07 PM
So the guy who claims to have found the tape of this in the desert has failed the polygraph.

dottierainbow
09-28-2007, 10:07 PM
I don't think anyone left you but playing ketchup.?Did everyone leave me?

lviola
09-28-2007, 10:07 PM
?Did everyone leave me?

This is awesome news! Thank you dear Lord!

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:09 PM
Well, I have to leave again. I guess the boards are just loading slow because of the number of people online. When I logged on 150 people were viewing this thread.

:clap: For LE for finding Madison

concernedperson
09-28-2007, 10:10 PM
I have read the news reports of this man being sought for abuse. I saw the child's face and was thinking how terrible and life altering it has been for her.I wish I could hold her forever and let her know that everyone is not like that. That there are kind and decent people in this world. Her pain is riveted in her face as a person that will always know unjustifiable pain. Maybe she will be found alive and someone can instill in her the same values that Shasta has had instilled in her and know that she is truly loved. This case breaks my heart.

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 10:10 PM
Well...as horrific as that tape was said to be by the sheriff and detectives this could not have happened without a Mom knowing about it. Certainly when she bathed her or when the child had to potty it would have hurt and the child certainly would not have been acting like herself after something like this. She maybe older now but if the tape is from 05 then she is still very yong. This has been all over the national news this week..how could you not recognize yur own child? Too many unanswered qestions here. And if she was with Stiles, and he is not a family member ,then when you saw his face and saw her face as a parent wouldn't you put two and two together?

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:10 PM
So the guy who claims to have found the tape of this in the desert has failed the polygraph.


I'm pretty sure he failed it because he's not owning up to being in the burglary ring (and the tape was stolen). Who steals a VHS tape?

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:11 PM
Hey great job on the maddie threads!! Thanks for the update, i dont have cable in office.

YW IndyGal...thanks for the wave!

reb
09-28-2007, 10:11 PM
No LB, everyone's watching the TV! LOL

SO..... Tuck flunked the lie detector,, eh...?? And the mother's talking to police... this is getting very interesting!

Well.. we can see now that Stiles doesn't appear to be Hispanic, PR, or Cuban... from that first photo, it sure fooled me. Just goes to show how photos can be deceiving... like that first photo of Madison, where we all let our imaginations carry us away. Then again with little to go on, you can't get a clear view of what you're seeing.

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 10:11 PM
ok..The Sheriff said that after he has a brief with the detectives (that are with Madison getting her to Nevada) they are going to hold another presser..

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:12 PM
Well...as horrific as that tape was said to be by the sheriff and detectives this could not have happened without a Mom knowing about it. Certainly when she bathed her or when the child had to potty it would have hurt and the child certainly would not have been acting like herself after something like this. She maybe older now but if the tape is from 05 then she is still very yong. This has been all over the national news this week..how could you not recognize yur own child? Too many unanswered qestions here. And if she was with Stiles, and he is not a family member ,then when you saw his face and saw her face as a parent wouldn't you put two and two together?
DeltaDawn, I said the same thing. If there's a mother in her life she had to have known and allowed it.

reb
09-28-2007, 10:12 PM
HAHAHHA!! Dog the Bounty Hunter is on Larry King!! HEY, if anyone can find him, HE can! GO GET HIM DAWG!!!

jill
09-28-2007, 10:13 PM
The attack must've happened after 2005, as it was taped over the peeping on the 11 year old.

I think Madison looks 3 in the pics - so she would be older, 5/6 right now.

When Stiles fled Nevada in 2003, he went to what has to be El Cajon, California - the Smoking Gun has a document that states El Chon, California - but I don't think there is any such place. Phonetically, El Chon could be interpreted as El Cajon, which is in the San Diego area and very accessible to Las Vegas - I think 6 hours by car? I'm an Orange County native and have only driven from Las Vegas to O.C, which we did in 5 hours, I believe.

So, he fled Nevada in 2003, and came back to Pahrump in time to peep on the older girl in 2005 - but he has never been apprehended.

Madison may very well be from the El Cajon or San Diego area.

EZRA
09-28-2007, 10:13 PM
to be honest - sometimes parents just don't notice something is going on. Mine never did. Maybe they just are in denial, maybe they don't care who knows.....but sometimes they just don't notice.

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 10:13 PM
They should stick Dog on this guy

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 10:14 PM
oh gosh..Dog is on! He said he thinks Stiles will commit suicide!

philamena
09-28-2007, 10:14 PM
CNN reporting mother cooperating with investigation. I am so confused.


I'm confused too. :confused:

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:14 PM
DeltaDawn, I said the same thing. If there's a mother in her life she had to have known and allowed it.

Anyone close to that child had to notice either physical changes AND definite mental/acting out issues. There's no way she went through a minimum of 30 minutes of horrifying acts and stayed "normal" afterwards.

We all know from her lack of emotion (per LE) on that tape that she was subjected to much more than 30 minutes of this in her sweet little life. There had to be a lot of acting out, or she's developmentally delayed and doesn't act typical in the first place. :(

:behindbar

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 10:15 PM
MsPooh suggested we name this Patience Day! Woohoo! September 28th. Works for me!!!

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:15 PM
"Dog" is giving his opinion...about Tuck..."birds of a feather flock together"

Dog is ready to go after Stiles...."GO DOG"!!!

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 10:15 PM
I hope that the detectives are bringing Madison in and stay with her and do not leave her alone with anyone at this point. The mother is cooperating with police..well she should have been doing that a long time ago.
I'll have to wait and try to catch the news presser on EST.

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 10:16 PM
Dog said they will go after Stiles for a dollar!! Said he is waiting on the warrants..then they will go after him..

reb
09-28-2007, 10:17 PM
Interesting..... what Dog just said.. is he believes there will be a suicide in this case.. he says what usually happens in these cases is they hang themselves or blow their brains out before the cops (or he) gets to them....

Which leads me to say....... has Stiles been checked against all unID's suicides/ unID's bodies found in the past few years,, especially in hotels, etc....??? That might be something to look into.

Medusa
09-28-2007, 10:17 PM
Medusa, it's not on thread #2. I don't remember anyone ever posting Chester Stiles picture before he was named as a POI. Maybe I missed that one but I don't think you'll find it before then.

I just heard they've upgraded Stiles status from POI to suspect.


\Not on three either. Weird, I know I saw his pix and the name was familiar as well -and I made that comment earlier when I saw it on crimeblog.us - oh well I've been wrong before.

Comment I have re Madison's age. If this is Stiles daughter per the info posted earlier, that girl will be 10 this Nov. I have a close family member almost same age. Further, I work with girls in that age. The difference in these girls now to two years, amazes me. They look much more grown up this year, really losing the baby look that a lot of them had a year ago, especially two years ago. So, I really believe that girl, in the tape could be almost 10 today. Poor thing. I hope they can get her help. I hope that they look hard and long at who ever she is with now - that if they knew and did nothing they go away a long time as well as this POS Stiles.

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 10:17 PM
I want to know if LE contacted the mom or vice versa

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:17 PM
Shoot, I'd pay to go after him myself if I had the time!

Dog better hope he's not in Mexico.

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 10:18 PM
YESSSS GO DOG GO!!! That POS doesn't have a chance in hell escaping DOG!!!! Woohoo!

philamena
09-28-2007, 10:18 PM
Faces of evil.
http://i22.tinypic.com/e64ro0.jpg

Liz
09-28-2007, 10:18 PM
I hope a really good samaritan finds the pos before police do! Sort of like general population, if you know what I mean.

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 10:19 PM
HAHAHHA!! Dog the Bounty Hunter is on Larry King!! HEY, if anyone can find him, HE can! GO GET HIM DAWG!!!

LOL I thought about Dog earlier today! This POS needs found. But you know what, I am sure he will be found. Hope he's not going to take the chicken way out before someone gets him though. I want to see this bastard stand trial. Him being dead is too easy.

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 10:19 PM
Dog better hope he's not in Mexico.:doh: NO DOUBT! :doh:

jill
09-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Interesting..... what Dog just said.. is he believes there will be a suicide in this case.. he says what usually happens in these cases is they hang themselves or blow their brains out before the cops (or he) gets to them....

Which leads me to say....... has Stiles been checked against all unID's suicides/ unID's bodies found in the past few years,, especially in hotels, etc....??? That might be something to look into.

I think there will be a suicide too, or maybe has already, but not til he saw himself today on the front page of the news, and on every news channel.

I feel this guy is a typical POS loser freak, who has run from the law for years, and thought most likely that he was in the clear. But not anymore.

And now he's got the Dog after him....he has got to be weighing the benefits of committing the act, next to what is going to happen when he is caught...

jilly
09-28-2007, 10:20 PM
I'm pretty sure he failed it because he's not owning up to being in the burglary ring (and the tape was stolen). Who steals a VHS tape?

Good point. Ther Sheriff has just said on LKL that they didn't believe him before he took the poly.

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Leland is going out also..

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Interesting..... what Dog just said.. is he believes there will be a suicide in this case.. he says what usually happens in these cases is they hang themselves or blow their brains out before the cops (or he) gets to them....


Ugh I hate it when people confirm my fears.

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 10:20 PM
Dog Will Get Him If Anybody Can....i'm Sure He's Still Out There..he Probably Doesn't Even Know Abot These Charges Because He Is Probably Not A Tv Watcher/ Newspaper Reading Kind Of Guy.
Dog Needs To Get Out There Now Before The Family Tips Him Off Again.

Socks
09-28-2007, 10:21 PM
Filthy POS. If I found him, he'd be getting beat with a bag of bricks and he'd feel the wrath of a wild woman swinging a sharp machete.

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 10:21 PM
If the tape was made in 2004-2005 ..she looked to be about 3-4 in the tape..Wouldn't she only be around 6-7 now?

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:21 PM
Dog and "Son of Dog" think he is out of state....

I am thinking California...

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:22 PM
You think this POS would plead "not guilty"? How do you disprove that video?

I'm torn between wanting him alive and in GP and just dead off the face of the earth BEFORE he "finds God" in prison.

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 10:22 PM
Dog said they will go after Stiles for a dollar!! Said he is waiting on the warrants..then they will go after him..

Woohoo! :woohoo: Go Dog!

Beffie
09-28-2007, 10:22 PM
Filthy POS. If I found him, he'd be getting beat with a bag of bricks and he'd feel the wrath of a wild woman swinging a sharp machete.


I say we get together and find him. He would wish he committed suicide. He is someone I would like to hurt (and I am not a violent person).:furious:

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 10:23 PM
If the tape was made in 2004-2005 ..she looked to be about 3-4 in the tape..Wouldn't she only be around 6-7 now?
I am sure we will find that info out soon enough. IMO Her name or idenity matters anymore. We need to find this POS

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:23 PM
I'm pretty sure he failed it because he's not owning up to being in the burglary ring (and the tape was stolen). Who steals a VHS tape?

Maybe it was in the VCR when he took that?

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 10:23 PM
I want him brought in alive to answer for his crimes and life in prison will be more painful

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:24 PM
Me too Beffie....he is living in a very small world right now....

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:24 PM
Leland is going out also..

I wish Leland would find me....sorry.

Socks
09-28-2007, 10:24 PM
I say we get together and find him. He would wish he committed suicide. He is someone I would like to hurt (and I am not a violent person).:furious:


Let's do it. I have a weapons of POS destruction in my arsenal. This dude is going to know the meaning of misery!

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 10:25 PM
Dog called him Chester the Molester! LOL It is officially his new Nickname! Hahahahahaha

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 10:25 PM
Bwhaaaaaa....Dog just named him....Chester the Molester!

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:25 PM
I wish Leland would find me....sorry.

LOL. Isn't he married though?!

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 10:26 PM
I want him brought in alive to answer for his crimes and life in prison will be more painful ME TOO!!!! :behindbar

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 10:26 PM
Me to Lizzy

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:27 PM
LOL. Isn't he married though?!


I think he is. A girl can dream can't she? In my case an old lady can dream.

jilly
09-28-2007, 10:27 PM
Maybe it was in the VCR when he took that?
Excellent point Taxi!

philamena
09-28-2007, 10:27 PM
I have read the news reports of this man being sought for abuse. I saw the child's face and was thinking how terrible and life altering it has been for her.I wish I could hold her forever and let her know that everyone is not like that. That there are kind and decent people in this world. Her pain is riveted in her face as a person that will always know unjustifiable pain. Maybe she will be found alive and someone can instill in her the same values that Shasta has had instilled in her and know that she is truly loved. This case breaks my heart.

Oh and that my dear is why I (we) love you.:blowkiss:
YOU have so much love in your heart. I thought the same thing cp. I'd like to hug her and talk to her and let her see the ocean or mountains or let her watch cartoons. She needs to experience love and experience being a child.

That bastage stole her innocence.

EZRA
09-28-2007, 10:28 PM
If that tape was in the VCR then they need to go get the jerk who was watching it......

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:28 PM
I always felt pedophiles were narcisistic (sp) and wouldn't think of killing themself.

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:30 PM
Excellent point Taxi!

It is a good point but still who would steal a VCR. How would they sell that? I think most people have DVD players now. Which makes me wonder all the more how and why Tuck had this tape.

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:30 PM
If that tape was in the VCR then they need to go get the jerk who was watching it......

I know, that was my next concern. Where (if that's the case) was this stolen from? I wonder if that person made a police report considering what was stolen!

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 10:30 PM
I have read the news reports of this man being sought for abuse. I saw the child's face and was thinking how terrible and life altering it has been for her.I wish I could hold her forever and let her know that everyone is not like that. That there are kind and decent people in this world. Her pain is riveted in her face as a person that will always know unjustifiable pain. Maybe she will be found alive and someone can instill in her the same values that Shasta has had instilled in her and know that she is truly loved. This case breaks my heart.

CP :confused:

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:31 PM
I want to make Chester the Molester pay for last night....

I have had the worst cough and everytime it woke me up last night I had to endure the most horrific "visions" until I could fall back asleep...

They are saying her mother is cooperating and Madison was found with her mother.....

Socks
09-28-2007, 10:31 PM
I always felt pedophiles were narcisistic (sp) and wouldn't think of killing themself.


He must have thought he was hot **** because he taped his "performance". Nasty POS just like Joseph Duncan.

They should just start slowly killing them upon their capture...but let death come very, very slowly.

Yes, I am mean and vengeful.

Cherlee
09-28-2007, 10:31 PM
I always felt pedophiles were narcisistic (sp) and wouldn't think of killing themself.


My "Stepdad" (of only 2 years thank god!) Was a Narcisistic, but not a pedo..Shot and killed himself in our front yard.

Socks
09-28-2007, 10:32 PM
CP :confused:

Shasta Groene. Victim of Joseph Duncan. You posted on that forum. Why the confused smilie?

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:33 PM
Pedo's share that crap. He may have taped it to trade or sell.

philamena
09-28-2007, 10:33 PM
I say we get together and find him. He would wish he committed suicide. He is someone I would like to hurt (and I am not a violent person).:furious:

Let's gp Beffie. I'm not usually violent but I'm menopausal.....I could probably go 'postal' within seconds of seeing him.

LMax
09-28-2007, 10:33 PM
Here is a repeat from an earlier post of the places he has lived according to veromi.net. If this is the same guy.
Stiles, Chester Arthur (Age 37)
Las Vegas, NV
Pact, FL
Darrouzett, TX
Panama City, FL

EZRA
09-28-2007, 10:33 PM
They should just start slowly killing them upon their capture...but let death come very, very slowly.

Yes, I am mean and vengeful.

That's not mean or vengeful - it's true - it's what they deserve, not three chances to do it again and again....kill them slowly in a public forum for everyone to get a chance to "help". Oh, that's right they stopped that kind of stuff a long time ago. But for these kind, they should bring it back.

CarpeDiem
09-28-2007, 10:34 PM
I want him brought in alive to answer for his crimes and life in prison will be more painful

Yeah, but he's as good as dead no matter what happens now, his life can be counted in moments at this point. He won't make it a week in jail. Good.

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 10:34 PM
Shasta Groene. Victim of Joseph Duncan. You posted on that forum. Why the confused smilie?

I'm very aware of who Shasta is, what I was questioning was "Maybe she will be found alive"..............which she was.

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
Here is a repeat from an earlier post of the places he has lived according to veromi.net. If this is the same guy.STILES, CHESTER ARTHUR (Age 37) (http://www.veromi.net/order.asp?1=CHESTER;;ARTHUR;;STILES;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;82253229;;&2=name&3=people&4=36&5=chester;;;;stiles;;;;;;;;;;;;&rc=50)
http://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif AvailableLAS VEGAS, NVhttp://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif
PACT, FLhttp://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif
DARROUZETT, TXhttp://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif
PANAMA CITY, FL

LMax, that link doesn't work for me. It takes me to a page where I have to pay to get any information.

philamena
09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
I wish Leland would find me....sorry.
bawaaaaaaa My 24 yr old and I said he same thing.:blushing::blowkiss:
we loveeeeee Leland.

reb
09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
I went to Big Bend Nat'l park a few years ago and just over the border there was an old, creepy, abandoned Dow Chemical plant (where they no doubt dumped all kinds of nasty pollution into the river without having to follow US environmental- or other- laws..... jerks).. Anyway... a local told me there were people living over there (which seemed unbelievable,, by the looks of it..) and when I inquired more, he said (with a disapproving smirk), it's believed there were deadbeat dads, escaping child support, living in the 'compound'. It gave me the creeps and I couldn't help but wonder what other kinds of fugitives & low lifes lived there too.
It was kind of an outlaw camp in the middle of nowhere, on the edge of civilzation. Probably a long shot,, but I wonder if authorities have checked there lately? If not, it's probably long overdue for a raid. supposedly Stiles did live in Texas at one time.... do you all think this is worth passing on to someone? Surely the cops know about it & check it out once in a while... but you never know.

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
Here is a repeat from an earlier post of the places he has lived according to veromi.net. If this is the same guy.STILES, CHESTER ARTHUR (Age 37) (http://www.veromi.net/order.asp?1=CHESTER;;ARTHUR;;STILES;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; ;;;82253229;;&2=name&3=people&4=36&5=chester;;;;stiles;;;;;;;;;;;;&rc=50)
http://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif AvailableLAS VEGAS, NVhttp://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif
PACT, FLhttp://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif
DARROUZETT, TXhttp://www.veromi.net/images/spacer.gif
PANAMA CITY, FL

Seems capable of doing a "geographic"....

jilly
09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
It is a good point but still who would steal a VCR. How would they sell that? I think most people have DVD players now. Which makes me wonder all the more how and why Tuck had this tape.

I would say a lot of people have DVDs (including myself) and some even still have their VCRs (including me)!
I have no clue about taping with DVDs though. Is it easier to tape with a VCR?

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 10:35 PM
I'm very aware of who Shasta is, what I was questioning was "Maybe she will be found alive"..............which she was.

Maybe Concernedperson didn't catch that yet? I noticed it too and was going to let her know she has been found alive and safe.

reb
09-28-2007, 10:36 PM
I can't wait to hear how well the mom knows Stiles. Once she starts talking, he's toast!! She will be able to give them all kinds of clues about where he might be.. that is,, if he is M's dad, or if they dated, were friends, or whatever.
(UGH.)

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 10:37 PM
Maybe Concernedperson didn't catch that yet? I noticed it too and was going to let her know she has been found alive and safe.
Thanks JE, that must be the case.

philamena
09-28-2007, 10:37 PM
He must have thought he was hot **** because he taped his "performance". Nasty POS just like Joseph Duncan.

They should just start slowly killing them upon their capture...but let death come very, very slowly.

Yes, I am mean and vengeful.

I like the way you think Socks! :cool:

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:38 PM
I would say a lot of people have DVDs (including myself) and some even still have their VCRs (including me)!
I have no clue about taping with DVDs though. Is it easier to tape with a VCR?

Oh, I still have my VCR too because I have some old tapes that can't be played on a DVD. I was just wondering though if you're stealing things to pawn or sell on the street how many people are going to want to buy a VCR. It was just a thought.

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:38 PM
I would say a lot of people have DVDs (including myself) and some even still have their VCRs (including me)!
I have no clue about taping with DVDs though. Is it easier to tape with a VCR?

You can convert your recordings from a camcorder to either media-tape/dvd, but you would need special equipment/wires etc depending on which you are doing. That can get expensive, especially if it's digital.

This wasn't a digital camcorder so he probably still used vcr's to watch (or convert to). Blech.

jilly
09-28-2007, 10:38 PM
I want to make Chester the Molester pay for last night....

I have had the worst cough and everytime it woke me up last night I had to endure the most horrific "visions" until I could fall back asleep...

They are saying her mother is cooperating and Madison was found with her mother.....

Yes - it was her mother who contacted authorities.

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 10:38 PM
We are going to learn a lot at the presser I hope.

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:39 PM
The way the sherrif answered the question...."is he her dad?" was wierd...like he paused..."no,(big pause) not her father"...it was wierd. That is why I thought he was someone close...

Taximom
09-28-2007, 10:39 PM
There are also combined vhs/dvd units for those that want to watch both or record from one media to the other. So it's possible the burglars (if) came across a dual player/recorder.

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 10:39 PM
Oh, I still have my VCR too because I have some old tapes that can't be played on a DVD. I was just wondering though if you're stealing things to pawn or sell on the street how many people are going to want to buy a VCR. It was just a thought.

Tweekers will buy anything, absolutely anything!

concernedperson
09-28-2007, 10:40 PM
Maybe Concernedperson didn't catch that yet? I noticed it too and was going to let her know she has been found alive and safe.

Thanks, I didn't know when I posted as WS has been down and I don't have TV. I am so glad she is alive and the rebuilding can happen with loving people around her.

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:41 PM
I like the way you think Socks! :cool:


I think you're just human Socks. Look at the how many movies have came out recently dealing with vigilantism (sp). Death Sentence, The Brave One. People are sick and tired of being victimized.

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 10:41 PM
Thanks, I didn't know when I posted as WS has been down and I don't have TV. I am so glad she is alive and the rebuilding can happen with loving people around her.

Glad you're here now and WS is up and running CP

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 10:42 PM
I think it might have been a live in ..he looks very comfortable where he was at

christine2448
09-28-2007, 10:44 PM
Just got this email, we knew, but, nice to have confirmation from the detective that has worked w/us through this.

WOOT!


----- Original Message ----- From: "Detective David Boruchowitz" <dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000152/!x-usc:mailto:dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us)>
To: <christine@lightingthewayhome.org (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000152/!x-usc:mailto:christine@lightingthewayhome.org)>; Cc: "Brian Hudson" <brian.hudson@kdwn.com (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000152/!x-usc:mailto:brian.hudson@kdwn.com)>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: UPDATE



> MADISON HAS BEEN LOCATED ALIVE AND WELL.
>
> PRESS CONFERENCE AT 7:30PM AT THE NYE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
>
> THANKS

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:45 PM
Could be an uncle. He could have been living with his parents and maybe Madison was staying there also. Maybe there was a reason she wasn't in her mother's care.

imthemom
09-28-2007, 10:45 PM
He must have thought he was hot **** because he taped his "performance". Nasty POS just like Joseph Duncan.

They should just start slowly killing them upon their capture...but let death come very, very slowly.

Yes, I am mean and vengeful.

Understandable in this case, I'm with you.:rolleyes:

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 10:46 PM
I think if you were going into the home porn business you would use a vcr to record the tape to because it is easier to make copies. If you wanted it for your own use wouldn't you just use a memory card in your video recorder and play it from that hooked up to yur tv or computer. And Southern Cal would be a good place to set up a little business like that..lots of areas where no one cares what yu do and close to the border. Kind of like Vegas was probably for him in the beginning.
Nothing against Vegas or Southern Cal..they just seem like places he could fade into with little trouble and disappear so to speak.

LMax
09-28-2007, 10:46 PM
sorry lizzbeth, I just learned how wonderful it is to have an edit button. Someone else posted these places first, that he has possibly lived.
Las Vegas, NV
Pact, FL
Darrouzett, TX
Panama City, FL

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:46 PM
So the press conference is 10:30 eastern time. Do you know if they will have it on livestream? Or can we watch it on one of the cable news channels.

Anderson Cooper said they will be releasing new info on his show at ten.

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:46 PM
Anderson Cooper 360 is going to cover the story also....next. 10PM EST

bnhall
09-28-2007, 10:47 PM
I think it might have been a live in ..he looks very comfortable where he was at

That would make sense if the man is not her father but had access to her like he did.

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 10:47 PM
Just got this email, we knew, but, nice to have confirmation from the detective that has worked w/us through this.

WOOT!


----- Original Message ----- From: "Detective David Boruchowitz" <dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000152/!x-usc:mailto:dboruchowitz@co.nye.nv.us)>
To: <christine@lightingthewayhome.org (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000152/!x-usc:mailto:christine@lightingthewayhome.org)>; Cc: "Brian Hudson" <brian.hudson@kdwn.com (mhtml:{83E2F8AD-9EAF-498C-8232-750A72F92AF8}mid://00000152/!x-usc:mailto:brian.hudson@kdwn.com)>
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: UPDATE



> MADISON HAS BEEN LOCATED ALIVE AND WELL.
>
> PRESS CONFERENCE AT 7:30PM AT THE NYE COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE.
>
> THANKS

You know, I have to say I really like this detective and the way he's been handling all of this towards you... I can't really put into words what I'm trying to say but I think he rocks. :)

Shamrock
09-28-2007, 10:48 PM
Whew, WS was down all afternoon. We went out to dinner and I just got back to this AWESOME news!!! I heard the news and was excited for about five seconds until it all sank in. Poor little Madison's troubles are far from over. I pray to God that she will recover, some never do. Especially the fact that is was her own FATHER??? The thought alone makes me want to throw up my dinner.

Greywing
09-28-2007, 10:48 PM
Understandable in this case, I'm with you.:rolleyes:


Actually, I feel that these animals should just be in the general population at any prison they end up in. The other prisoners would probably be ulta effective in dealing with them ....

White Rain
09-28-2007, 10:48 PM
GIRL FOUND SAFE! YESYESYESYESYES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298565,00.html

christine2448
09-28-2007, 10:49 PM
Anderson Cooper 360 is going to cover the story also....next. 10PM EST

Hey, woot! Isn't this great, in the midst of all that is going on around us ;) Nice to see you 'celebrating'.....roller coaster, celebrate one sec, heartbreak for this child the next.

We need to unite and find this scumbag. Hint, Hint. This is what it's about!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

colomom
09-28-2007, 10:50 PM
Hey, woot! Isn't this great, in the midst of all that is going on around us ;) Nice to see you 'celebrating'.....roller coaster, celebrate one sec, heartbreak for this child the next.

We need to unite and find this scumbag. Hint, Hint. This is what it's about!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

BIG "wink" and a HUGE hug...I "feel" it girlie...I just wish....you know.

Love Ya!!!

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:51 PM
You know I've been thinking. Just because we just found out about this tape doesn't mean someone in Madison's family didn't know about it earlier. Maybe they got her out of that situation (possibly as early as right after that video) and she's been getting help already. I hope so. I also, and I know it sounds weird, hope that she isn't that old now. If this happened when she was three or four and she's now five or six then I think it might help in her healing. She might have a better chance of having a "normal" life.

White Rain
09-28-2007, 10:51 PM
Omg What Happy News!!!! I Have Been Praying And Praying For This Precious Sweetie!!!!!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 10:51 PM
We need to unite and find this scumbag. Hint, Hint. This is what it's about!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

I think we need a big HELL YEAH! :dance:

imthemom
09-28-2007, 10:52 PM
You know, I have to say I really like this detective and the way he's been handling all of this towards you... I can't really put into words what I'm trying to say but I think he rocks. :)

He does rock, you know he has to be so busy but he took time to let everyone know, that was very nice of him.

DeltaDawn
09-28-2007, 10:53 PM
Maybe the Mom worked in Vegas and he babysat for her from time to time. And isn't the Chicken Ranch and a few other brothels in the county that Tuck lives in? Maybe she was part of that scene then, but moved to Cal to start over...maybe her past made her afraid to come forward. As a Mom though it is hard to beleive she would worry about herself instead of Madison at a time when everyone is frantically looking for her.

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:53 PM
I was confused at the press conference this afternoon. My speakers weren't working very well and I couldn't tell which one the sheriff said he was. Was he the one with dark hair, shorter or the one with the suit and moustache.

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 10:54 PM
He does rock, you know he has to be so busy but he took time to let everyone know, that was very nice of him.
And it doesnt hurt that he is as cute as a button...LOL

alpharee
09-28-2007, 10:55 PM
You'll have to excuse my mouth...if her mother contacted authorities then why'd the biotch wait so long before contacting them? We've been following this case for days. Makes me think the mother was staying away from the cops for a reason.:sick:


I don't think we should jump to conclusions here. I know MANY people who haven't heard about this. Actually no one I've spoken to about it has. I had to fill them in. It's possible her mother was one who didn't watch tv or read the paper. My husband is like this.

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:55 PM
And it doesnt hurt that he is as cute as a button...LOL

Thanks you answered my question. He was the one with dark hair and shorter with dress shirt on.

Shamrock
09-28-2007, 10:55 PM
In what year was the arrest warrant issued for the sexual assault of a six-year-old? Anyone know?

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 10:56 PM
And it doesnt hurt that he is as cute as a button...LOL

*peaks over shoulder to make sure husband isn't reading this*

Yep! LOL :D

Seriously though. How many times have we seen LE ask for help only to be treated snotty and not being kept in the loop... this guy did what he said he would do and I think he's got great integrity, and he rocks. :D

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:56 PM
I don't think we should jump to conclusions here. I know MANY people who haven't heard about this. Actually no one I've spoken to about it has. I had to fill them in. It's possible her mother was one who didn't watch tv or read the paper. My husband is like this.

I have a friend that works for the police dept. locally and she hadn't heard anything about it. She works the night shift and sleeps during the day. I would have thought the police would have had a poster or something up.

christine2448
09-28-2007, 10:57 PM
In what year was the arrest warrant issued for the sexual assault of a six-year-old? Anyone know?

Mystic?? Didnt' you pull that today?

alpharee
09-28-2007, 10:57 PM
same here. I spoke to many LE friends today who hadn't heard about it.

justche
09-28-2007, 10:58 PM
And it doesnt hurt that he is as cute as a button...LOL

isn't he? :) I kept thinking, wow, how nice to see a detective that doesn't look hardened and was so genuinely horrified at the tap. I wouldn't wish having to watch that stuff on anyone.

CarpeDiem
09-28-2007, 10:58 PM
Anderson Cooper 360 is going to cover the story also....next. 10PM EST

Hi Heather :blowkiss: , I think I'm going to do Greta, let us know what Anderson says.

Mysticchic
09-28-2007, 10:58 PM
We are in a chat room if anyone wants to join us
http://www.stormdancing.net/network/java/chat1.html
just type in your screen name from here in top and then websleuths for channel

dellemma
09-28-2007, 10:59 PM
In what year was the arrest warrant issued for the sexual assault of a six-year-old? Anyone know?

It was signed in July 2007 for the incident that happened in 2003.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0928071stiles1.html

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 10:59 PM
I know it wouldn't have helped in this case but I wonder how much sooner missing kids, running perps might be found if they did make sure every police dept had posters/info?

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 10:59 PM
In what year was the arrest warrant issued for the sexual assault of a six-year-old? Anyone know?

See here at link.......
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0928071stiles1.html

It also states this happened on 12/13/2003, but the final doc wasn't signed until 07/24/07!

ETA: I noticed what I think was a mispelling of the place where he may have been. It says El Chon, but I'm sure it was was in fact El Cajon which is in San Diego County!

lizzybeth
09-28-2007, 11:00 PM
Okay, I'm off to watch Anderson Cooper. Good night posters.

Taximom
09-28-2007, 11:01 PM
Okay, I'm off to watch Anderson Cooper. Good night posters.


Take notes! Good night.

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 11:01 PM
Okay, I'm off to watch Anderson Cooper. Good night posters.

Someone better keep the people with roof antennas posted... :D

Uhm I meant to say Please? ;)

colomom
09-28-2007, 11:03 PM
Anderson Cooper 360...

Definitely NOT her father but "some kind of relationship"

Hmmmm?

alpharee
09-28-2007, 11:03 PM
this is the federal warrant because he left the state to avoid prosecution. The state warrant was signed 04/26/04

christine2448
09-28-2007, 11:04 PM
isn't he? :) I kept thinking, wow, how nice to see a detective that doesn't look hardened and was so genuinely horrified at the tap. I wouldn't wish having to watch that stuff on anyone.

LOL, when all settles, I am going to email him a copy of this...maybe he is single...OMG, a WS wedding. LMAO!

jilly
09-28-2007, 11:04 PM
Oh, I still have my VCR too because I have some old tapes that can't be played on a DVD. I was just wondering though if you're stealing things to pawn or sell on the street how many people are going to want to buy a VCR. It was just a thought.

I know what you mean.:) I can't wait to find out how exactly he acquired this tape. I'm sure it wasn't the reason he gave. I mean...walking in the desert and finding it under a board wrapped in a plastic bag. GMAB. No wonder the cops didn't believe him. Then he fails the polygraph.
I heard his lawyer say it wasn't surprising that he failed because he knew that he was being looked at as being involved in this porn. My answer to that would be, well, if he's that worried, and he did get it in a burglary, you'd think he'd fess up to that.

mama2echo
09-28-2007, 11:04 PM
whoa, ive just now been able to be on here again!! im so glad shes found!!!! i still am fishy about the mom till we hear what she says tho...

teedie2
09-28-2007, 11:04 PM
Maybe it was in the VCR when he took that?

If Tuck stole it, I'd love to know where he took the VCR from!

Greta is waiting for a press conference now.

colomom
09-28-2007, 11:05 PM
I have driven that route (Hwy 15 from Vegas to CA) and I know that the cell phone coverage is spotty....I am convinced they are coming back from California....

Shamrock
09-28-2007, 11:05 PM
On Greta, they're saying Madison is around nine years old now. But, who knows. We need to wait for the facts from the press conference. I hope she's not that old. The thought of her enduring this abuse for years is unbearable.

christine2448
09-28-2007, 11:05 PM
Omg What Happy News!!!! I Have Been Praying And Praying For This Precious Sweetie!!!!!!!!! Woo Hoo!!!!!!!!!!!!

HUG! :dance:

Tom'sGirl
09-28-2007, 11:05 PM
this is the federal warrant because he left the state to avoid prosecution. The state warrant was signed 04/26/04

Correct, I have the document printed out here.

dellemma
09-28-2007, 11:05 PM
this is the federal warrant because he left the state to avoid prosecution. The state warrant was signed 04/26/04

ah Ok, that makes sense now. Do you know where I can see the original State warrant from 2004?

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 11:06 PM
LOL, when all settles, I am going to email him a copy of this...maybe he is single...OMG, a WS wedding. LMAO!

*edites her posts* :D j/k

Christine you really should. I think it would be nice for him to see he/his work in this is much appreciated.

colomom
09-28-2007, 11:06 PM
On 360 they said that the mother "recognized" her daughter from the news...she called authorities....

KT Can
09-28-2007, 11:06 PM
I am SO glad that they found her !!! The Detective & LE in this case have been great!!! :clap:

I swear to gawd, if this turns out to be another "mom's boyfriend" kind of things I am going to vomit. :furious:

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 11:08 PM
On 360 they said that the mother "recognized" her daughter from the news...she called authorities....

I really hope we will hear if she knew or not. If not, can you imagine how shell shocked she must be right now....

jilly
09-28-2007, 11:08 PM
You can convert your recordings from a camcorder to either media-tape/dvd, but you would need special equipment/wires etc depending on which you are doing. That can get expensive, especially if it's digital.

This wasn't a digital camcorder so he probably still used vcr's to watch (or convert to). Blech.

Blech is right! Thanks Taxi for the technical info!:)

LMax
09-28-2007, 11:09 PM
Tuck's lawyer said part of the time he had the tape he was in jail and that was the reason it wasn't turned in sooner.

imthemom
09-28-2007, 11:10 PM
Oh my gosh Tuck's attorney just called Tuck this girls savior!!:banghead: Five months too late.

alpharee
09-28-2007, 11:10 PM
Case 99-C-160080-C Just Ct. Case# 99-F -09556 Status CLOSED
Plaintiff State of Nevada Attorney Bell, Stewart L.
Defendant Stiles, Chester A Attorney Public Defender
Judge Gonzalez, Elizabeth Dept. 11
Filed Date 07/08/1999 Closed Date 03/21/2001
Last Hear 03/20/2001 For STATE'S NOTICE OF INTENT TO SEEK REV OF PROB
Outcome GRANTED



Case 01-C-174113-C Just Ct. Case# 01-F -02659 Status CLOSED
Plaintiff State of Nevada Attorney Bell, Stewart L.
Defendant Stiles, Chester A Attorney Public Defender
Judge Gonzalez, Elizabeth Dept. 11
Filed Date 03/22/2001 Closed Date 06/22/2001
Last Hear 06/21/2001 For SENTENCING
Outcome GRANTED
Next Hear For
Pre-trial 05/24/2001 at 08:30 AM Trial




Case 01-C-174866-C Just Ct. Case# 01-F -05579 Status CLOSED
Plaintiff State of Nevada Attorney Roger, David J.
Defendant Stiles, Chester A Attorney Public Defender
Judge Hardcastle, Kathy Dept. 4
Filed Date 04/25/2001 Closed Date 04/23/2003
Last Hear 04/23/2003 For BENCH WARRANT RETURN
Outcome GRANTED

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 11:10 PM
Tuck's lawyer said part of the time he had the tape he was in jail and that was the reason it wasn't turned in sooner.

:doh: :doh: What a winner. How does 'turn it in right away' sound to ya, Tuck??

mama2echo
09-28-2007, 11:10 PM
what channel is the pressers showing now? still msnbc or cnn?

dellemma
09-28-2007, 11:11 PM
Thanks Alpharee!

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 11:11 PM
Case 99-C-160080-C Just Ct. Case# 99-F -09556 Status CLOSED

[snip]

Do you have subtitles with this, alpharee?

LMax
09-28-2007, 11:12 PM
It should start about 10:30 eastern time. Will probably be on MSNBC and etc.

Shamrock
09-28-2007, 11:13 PM
How could her mom NOT know any of this was happening?? I'm not trying to place blame because I know this stuff happens all the time (I've seen enough Oprahs with mothers on who had NO clue). It's just that I would hope I would know, sense something, see a change in behavior, anything to make me see that something isn't right.

LMax
09-28-2007, 11:13 PM
Greta says they will go to the news conference on Fox.

colomom
09-28-2007, 11:14 PM
That was about it for Anderson Cooper 360....

They are on to other subjects....for now....

Will leave the 'puter on but I am off to rest....

Thank you God...I really believe that our PRAYERS were heard!!!

tiredblondy
09-28-2007, 11:15 PM
LOL, when all settles, I am going to email him a copy of this...maybe he is single...OMG, a WS wedding. LMAO!

Christine, When you get the detective can you fix me up with the sheriff?? I guess it's the sheriff. The handsome man with the beautiful white hair??? I'd be forever grateful.:blushing:

mama2echo
09-28-2007, 11:15 PM
shamrock i believe we feel the same about the mom.....

SeriouslySearching
09-28-2007, 11:16 PM
There will be plenty to discuss after the presser!

Jaded
09-28-2007, 11:19 PM
Tuck's lawyer said part of the time he had the tape he was in jail and that was the reason it wasn't turned in sooner.

Any decent person would have turned it in on the first day of finding it. Savior, my rear!

JanetElaine
09-28-2007, 11:20 PM
If anyone knows where the pc can be watched online, like earlier today, please post it here.

Indy Gal
09-28-2007, 11:20 PM
Christine want ed me to post a link to chat. We are all there waiting for presser and having fun celebrating that our girl has been found.

http://www.stormdancing.net/network/java/chat1.html

type in your WS name- first line
TYPE websleuths- second line

Then hit connect button at bottom of page. See you all there and post slow.....LOL

i.b.nora
09-28-2007, 11:21 PM
I can't help but wonder if there is any connection between Joseph Edward Duncan and Chester Arthur Stiles?

I believe, if memory serves me, that Duncan's mother (and maybe step-father?) had moved to Pahrump and Duncan spent some time there.

Thoughts, anyone?

mrs.kravitz
09-28-2007, 11:23 PM
Thank You God! What incredible news! I'm a little late joining in, but I am so elated that our prayers were answered!

dellemma
09-28-2007, 11:24 PM
If anyone knows where the pc can be watched online, like earlier today, please post it here.

http://klas-tv.com/global/video/popup/pop_playerLaunch.asp?clipid1=mms://a310.l543138425.c5431.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/310/5431/v0001/reflector:38425&at1=News&vt1=l&h1=Live+Streaming+Video&d1=0&redirUrl=www.lasvegasnow.com&activePane=info&LaunchPageAdTag=homepage

cheko1
09-28-2007, 11:24 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
THANK GOD she was found!!!!!

I've been on lock down (out) since this afternoons presser!

philamena
09-28-2007, 11:24 PM
i.b.nora,
I think the pos looks like duncan.

texasgirl
09-28-2007, 11:24 PM
Hi all,

Finally made it through all 5 threads....it only took me two days!:bang:

I wanted to tell all of you just how amazed I was as I read your posts as you were learning and sleuthing this case. You guys ROCK! :)

Seriously, if ANYTHING ever happens to one of my children (Lord forbid), I am coming to you guys for help. You guys are all so amazing and I'm thankful to be a member here. :blowkiss:

SOOOOOOO happy to hear that Madison is safe now. As a survivor of childhood sexual abuse, I can tell you that there is light at the end of the tunnel for some of us. I pray that she finds that light and gets her smile back. I will never forget her little face and will wish her well all my life.

Again, you guys amaze me and I am so happy to be here with all of you. Although I didn't post because I wasn't all caught up, I wanted you all to know that I was right there with you and although I prayed many hours after your group prayer--it worked! :)

BIG HUGS to all of you!

Now, I expect that you guys will have this POS found by daylight tomorrow! I LOVE Dog but he has nothing on the group of people here!!:dance:

SadieMae
09-28-2007, 11:25 PM
Christine, When you get the detective can you fix me up with the sheriff?? I guess it's the sheriff. The handsome man with the beautiful white hair??? I'd be forever grateful.:blushing:

Well...let's flip a coin to see who gets him. I think he's handsome too if it's the one I'm thinking of. Always had a thing for silver haired foxes! :D

:waitasec: ...I already have a silver haired foxy cowboy...
OK...So go for it Blondy I hope ya land the sheriff!!! :woohoo:

pedinurse
09-28-2007, 11:26 PM
Dog Will Get Him If Anybody Can....i'm Sure He's Still Out There..he Probably Doesn't Even Know Abot These Charges Because He Is Probably Not A Tv Watcher/ Newspaper Reading Kind Of Guy.
Dog Needs To Get Out There Now Before The Family Tips Him Off Again.

I have LITERALLY been trying to read these threads all day... you guys talk too fast!
But yes, I think that if anyone can get them dog and his family can... Get em!

KR2tonenow
09-28-2007, 11:28 PM
I am SO glad that they found her !!! The Detective & LE in this case have been great!!! :clap:

I swear to gawd, if this turns out to be another "mom's boyfriend" kind of things I am going to vomit. :furious:

Right, I want to hear the details... how this child got into the hands of this pervert!!!

Happy she is safe NOW!!!!